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    Quote Originally posted by Elen View Post
    OK I take full responsibility
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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    You devil, you. Which shoulder do you prefer?
    Either one works for me...timing is important though...

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    What are BPB's good points ?.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    What are BPB's good points ?.
    In my opinion? Well, he's intelligent and he has enough of an understanding of scientific principles to be able to legitimately debunk certain dis-/-misinformation. He's quite knowledgeable in many areas, including the field of history. He doesn't merely collate the information, but he assimilates it and understands it.

    He's also very eloquent, which makes it easy to understand his words without leaving any room for unintended ambiguities. He can therefore also — at least, if and when he wants to — deploy this eloquence as tactfulness in communication, and that's a very strong and desirable quality in negotiations.

    Mind you that this is no guarantee that he'll never be rude. One can be perfectly eloquent and rude all at the same time, as in that particular post where he called your writing style "an embarrassment". That was definitely rudeness, albeit that it was shrouded in a velvet glove.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    In my opinion? Well, he's intelligent and he has enough of an understanding of scientific principles to be able to legitimately debunk certain dis-/-misinformation. He's quite knowledgeable in many areas, including the field of history. He doesn't merely collate the information, but he assimilates it and understands it.

    He's also very eloquent, which makes it easy to understand his words without leaving any room for unintended ambiguities. He can therefore also — at least, if and when he wants to — deploy this eloquence as tactfulness in communication, and that's a very strong and desirable quality in negotiations.

    Mind you that this is no guarantee that he'll never be rude. One can be perfectly eloquent and rude all at the same time, as in that particular post where he called your writing style "an embarrassment". That was definitely rudeness, albeit that it was shrouded in a velvet glove.
    Who is this Bill Ryan guy anyway? Should I know of him?
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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    Who is this Bill Ryan guy anyway? Should I know of him?
    Well of course you should! He's God's gift to mankind, didn't you know that? We must all worship him! Repent, sinner!


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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    Well of course you should! He's God's gift to mankind, didn't you know that? We must all worship him! Repent, sinner!


    I must have jumped a timeline.
    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" -- Voltaire

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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    I must have jumped a timeline.
    Time to bring in Sapphire & Steel then. I hear they're good at fixing that sort of thing.
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    Lightbulb

    Here's a novelty, and a bit of a bombshell too... Believe it or not, yours truly has actually been emailing back and forth with Bill Ryan today.


    The reason for today's exchange was an email that was sent to Bill Ryan — with myself in CC — by somebody whom I shall not name now, but who seemed to insinuate that The One Truth was planning to lure all Project Avalon members to our forum in an attempt to assimilate Project Avalon into The One Truth. The email was worded in such a way as to suggest that I would be open to this plan but that I considered it unfeasible.


    I found the situation so embarrassing that I decided to contact Bill Ryan and explain to him that The One Truth has no intention whatsoever to take over Project Avalon, and that we do not infiltrate other forums in order to lure members over to ours. Not only would that be unethical, but for the other forum(s), it would be tantamount to spam, and grounds for an immediate ban. I know what I'm talking about because I ran an IRC network with a bunch of other people for about six years, and we've also had to deal with that kind of behavior there.

    Bill was very cordial in his reply, in his usual style of communicating, and because he knows the person who sent that email quite well, he confirmed my own impressions of said person. Now, this is about as much as I can reveal, because there is a certain confidentiality involved regarding both the events and the person who sent Bill that email. However, my homies in the mod room have seen the complete exchange, and so have all staff members at Project Avalon. The sender of that original email is no stranger to either forum.

    Anyway, it all goes to show how life can lead you down strange paths. If you had told me only yesterday that I would be talking to Bill Ryan via email today, I would have told you to stop eating strong cheese before bedtime.

    The whole thing does however remind me of that strange dream I had a while ago — somewhere early in May 2017 — and which I then posted about on another thread. In fact, I would even say that as far as dreams — the ones you have while you are asleep — becoming a reality goes, what happened today was probably a real-world manifestation of said dream, and that the dream had therefore been some kind of noospheric prophecy — micro macro, with eggysamples.

    To make things easier, I'll copy my recall of the dream again below.



    In this dream, The One Truth and Project Avalon were not just forums, but physical places, not dissimilar to university campuses. The setting was a typical warm spring evening, at or around sunset, but definitely before the onset of complete darkness.

    Project Avalon was located at the edge of a lush green forest, and had the appearance of a medieval castle, with towers, an approximately five-meter-wide moat — filled with water, of course — and with a wooden bridge across the moat of approximately three and a half meters in width. Yet, they did have very modern amenities. The path toward Avalon — including the bridge across the moat — was illuminated by small but tasteful electric lanterns on both sides, placed approximately one meter above the ground, and spaced about two to three meters apart. From what I could tell, the inside of Avalon was also lit with modern electric lighting.

    The One Truth on the other hand was located in a more urban setting. Not exactly smack downtown — we also had some lush green in our environment, and there were also ponds — but I remember observing that The One Truth was strategically far better located than Project Avalon, because we had a direct connection with all of the main roads leading in and out of the town. The One Truth was also slightly smaller than Avalon, but not all that much smaller, and we also had towers, but — and here lies the big contrast — it had an ultramodern appearance. Somewhat futuristic even, with much higher towers. And I remember that it felt like home to me.

    There was quite a bit of a distance between The One Truth and Project Avalon, but it nevertheless still qualified as walking distance — say a ten-to-fifteen-minute walk.

    For some reason that wasn't clear to me — hey, it was a dream and dreams aren't always logical — I found myself in the area between The One Truth and Project Avalon, and actually quite close to the latter's location. There were people all around, because it wasn't pitch dark just yet, and it was a warm spring evening. And suddenly, I ran into Bill Ryan. He looked just as he always does, wearing very casual clothing, and of course his inseparable hat. He recognized me and grinned.

    I felt a little uncomfortable because I had been criticizing him quite harshly here at the forum in recent days. Nevertheless, I walked up to him, with in the back of my mind the fact that our brothers modwiz and Aianawa have recently been discussing Bill Ryan on the TOTcasts, and that modwiz had also dedicated one of his Mystic Brew videos to the subject of Bill Ryan's recent statements regarding the state of the so-called "alternative community".

    I greeted Bill, and he greeted me back. There was no resentment from either side. I asked him how he had been, and even though he did not ask me anything at all, I started talking a bit about The One Truth to him, telling him about some of what we had been up to, and what we've been talking about recently, including the subject of Corey Goode, of course.

    Bill and I started talking about the so-called "alternative community", and it was all very cordial. We were both pointing out some of the problems of the community, such as a lack of discernment, the credibility of whistleblowers and alleged witnesses, and so on. Then, as we had been standing there and talking for quite a while, I was getting thirsty, and even though I knew — at least, in my dream — that Bill wouldn't have minded if we took the conversation into Project Avalon's lounge room, I chose to invite him over to the lounge room of The One Truth.

    Bill accepted my invitation, and next thing we were over at The One Truth, sitting at the bar of the lounge room. I pointed out to Bill that I felt that The One Truth was strategically better located than Project Avalon because we were near all of the main roads, but I did not tell him that in order to mock or insult him — it was merely something I had observed and that I mentioned in passing.

    Then, as the conversation neared its end, Bill decided to return to Avalon — he probably had some work to do over there — and he offered to buy drinks for the whole house, but I declined and I said that this last round was on me, and I told the bartender to put it on my tab. After all, I had invited Bill into our lounge, and he had accepted, which means that I was the host and he was my guest, and I would have been a terrible host if I had allowed for the guest to pay for the drinks.

    So then after that last drink, Bill went back off to Avalon, all by himself, on foot. And I remained with the feeling that we had accomplished something there, and that The One Truth and Project Avalon were going to be working together in the future on account of being a kind of community watchdog, warning the community about so-called witnesses and whistleblowers who are only seeking to become "alt media heroes", and in guiding the community onto the discovery of the truths that are being held from us all by The Powers That Be™
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    Nice dream, Aragorn. It would be lovely if it happened in real life. I hate to use the word 'synergistic,' but your combined strengths would be just that if you teamed up.

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    The event was real, though? That is a bombshell...not to mention rather bizarre....I"m getting dizzy!
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    Quote Originally posted by Octopus Garden View Post
    Nice dream, Aragorn. It would be lovely if it happened in real life. I hate to use the word 'synergistic,' but your combined strengths would be just that if you teamed up.
    Well, who knows what the future brings, right? But the difference between Project Avalon and The One Truth in my dream — although symbolically represented by the former having the appearance of a medieval castle and the latter of a hypermodern campus — does hold.

    From what I can make up from some of Bill Ryan's own recent posts over at Project Avalon, he still very much believes in the old-school paradigm of a qualified leader, whereas we over here at The One Truth tend to have a more libertarian approach, with way-showers rather than leaders, and with people assuming responsibility over their own actions and decisions. In a way, you could say that it's the difference between giving a man a fish and thus having fed him for a day, to teaching a man how to fish and subsequently having fed him for the rest of his life.

    But ultimately, we're all supposed to be on the same side here. We're all trying to get to the bottom of all the mysteries, and to the truth behind government lies and obfuscations. So in the end, it is not impossible that we may at some point in time decide to put our heads together again in sharing information that could serve all of us. We don't have to agree on everything. They have their style and we have ours, and one can only thrive if one is allowed to be oneself. But our motto is and has always been that...


    TOGETHER WE MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

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    Bill admits to being into Scientology in this thread over at the Kool-aid stand (sort of):

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...its-origins-in...

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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    Bill admits to being into Scientology in this thread over at the Kool-aid stand (sort of):

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...its-origins-in...
    Well yes, he has never made that a secret. It has always been publicly visible in the FAQ at the main Project Camelot website, as you can read here...:


    What is your spiritual orientation?

    We both believe absolutely in the fundamental rights of all spiritual beings – including anyone reading these words – to liberty, freedom of thought, action, expression, and access to important information that affects them and their future directly. This is one of the key principles underlying Project Camelot.

    Kerry Cassidy is not connected to any specific spiritual group. Bill Ryan is a Free Zone (Ron's Org) Scientologist, fully against and publicly opposed to the goals and modus operandi of the Church of Scientology (and, he is proud to say, named on the Church of Scientology's official Enemies List).
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