What Motivates Bill Ryan of Project Avalon Community Forum?

[Gio]

Dang. I would have loved the insight coming from your experiences, Gio. I do hope you will share one day as it would be helpful to all manner of people who may be lurking around.

Sorry, but won't ever happen here ...

Too many ...

em·bed (s)

past tense: embedded; past participle: embedded

1.
fix (an object) firmly and deeply in a surrounding mass.
"he had an operation to remove a nail embedded in his chest"
synonyms: implant, plant, set, fix, lodge, root, insert, place; sink, drive, hammer, ram

* 2.
attach (a troll) to a free open forum to create conflict, havoc, and confusion.

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[Aragorn]

Dang. I would have loved the insight coming from your experiences, Gio. I do hope you will share one day as it would be helpful to all manner of people who may be lurking around.

Sorry, but won't ever happen here ...

Too many ...

em·bed (s)

past tense: embedded; past participle: embedded

1.
fix (an object) firmly and deeply in a surrounding mass.
"he had an operation to remove a nail embedded in his chest"
synonyms: implant, plant, set, fix, lodge, root, insert, place; sink, drive, hammer, ram

* 2.
attach (a troll) to a free open forum to create conflict, havoc, and confusion.

giggle

Are you saying we've got shills here at The One Truth?

[Gio]

Are you saying we've got shills here at The One Truth?

Come on Dude ...

They were here way before you and the current staff ever got here ...

[Aragorn]

Are you saying we've got shills here at The One Truth?

Come on Dude ...

They were here way before you and the current staff ever got here ...

Well, I know that we've got a couple of El Sombrero™ fans here — well, at least one still that I know of, because the others have all asked for their retirement, and one was banned (by myself) for belligerent behavior and slander — but there's a difference between a True Believer™ and an actual shill.

So if you have any evidence — or at the very least, reasonable suspicion — then I would appreciate it if you were to share this with the staff. A private message is probably the most discreet approach.

[Lord Sidious]

Interesting Gio, yes that does happen. When they approached me with Bill's new idea about having an official front door greeter (must have been 20012/13), it of course wasn't a mod position, but it definitely *was* being part of the team. And yes it did make me even more fervently loyal for a few months, but then being so much closer to things also made me pay closer attention to things.

That's when I began to notice certain things weren't as they seemed, or as they should be. And the more my concerns were summarily dismissed, the more I knew something really was indeed wrong. So, being part of the team can also have the opposite effect. Very rare though...

Not sure if you recall, but I was greeting all the new members and wishing everyone happy birthday.
They turned that around after I was banned into me wanting to take the forum over!

[Gio]

Well, I know that we've got a couple of El Sombrero™ fans here — well, at least one still that I know of, because the others have all asked for their retirement, and one was banned (by myself) — but there's a difference between a True Believer™ and an actual shill.

So if you have any evidence — or at the very least, reasonable suspicion — then I would appreciate it if you were to share this with the staff. A private message is probably the most discreet approach.

Your choice of term - 'shill' ...

I prefer to use the term 'troll' which is more inclined to a particular psych behavior.

I am not suggesting that anyone posting here would be of that kind of nature ...

While noting this particular subject matter for the most part is just about fun and games.

[Gio]

shill

So if you have any evidence — or at the very least, reasonable suspicion — then I would appreciate it if you were to share this with the staff. A private message is probably the most discreet approach.

Only if You and Malc, are prepared to relocate, protect, and support me
within the lifestyle i've been accustomed to.

[Fred Steeves]

Interesting Gio, yes that does happen. When they approached me with Bill's new idea about having an official front door greeter (must have been 20012/13), it of course wasn't a mod position, but it definitely *was* being part of the team. And yes it did make me even more fervently loyal for a few months, but then being so much closer to things also made me pay closer attention to things.

That's when I began to notice certain things weren't as they seemed, or as they should be. And the more my concerns were summarily dismissed, the more I knew something really was indeed wrong. So, being part of the team can also have the opposite effect. Very rare though...

Not sure if you recall, but I was greeting all the new members and wishing everyone happy birthday.
They turned that around after I was banned into me wanting to take the forum over!

Geez I had totally forgotten, but that *does* ring a bell. Interesting how little of a twist it takes, to make 2+2=5...

[donk]

Heh, I told them that I had my mailbox full for a reason, I didn't want anyone saying anything to me that they wouldn't want to share with the forum, so when I hit 500 pms and they pmed about something they said "oh, you want special treatment? Our hands are tied, you're banned"

Hey sierra who speaks for bill, asking to NOT get more pms than my limit is the opposite of asking for special treatment

[Aragorn]

So if you have any evidence — or at the very least, reasonable suspicion — then I would appreciate it if you were to share this with the staff. A private message is probably the most discreet approach.

Only if You and Malc, are prepared to relocate, protect, and support me
within the lifestyle i've been accustomed to.

Well, Don Giovonni, as it just so happens to be, the safe house on Barbados is in use right now by a guy who keeps a pen full of blue chickens, the one at Lake Tahoe is currently occupied by an Edgar Cayce clone who keeps on talking about his willy, and we've only just relocated Lego Batman to Arizona. But I'll check with our Mexican operative Mrs. Anderson as to whether Villa Loco in Acapulco is available.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weGiFoK4JeI

[Outlander]

Sometimes I'm inspired, sometimes I'm more inspired

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If not, perhaps they should.

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With the Patriot Act 1 & 2 in hand, signing this, could mark you as a potential 'terrorist'!

Wait a second…

P. A. 1 & 2 …



Patriot Act 1 & 2 ...

Coincidence?


"Pretentious? Moi?"
What really p#sses me off about Bill Ryan, is that he seems to think he is some sort of godlike idol.
I've send this guy 2 or 3 emails, and never received an answer. – mind you, if I mail Bono, I get a reply within 24 hours max.

Now please tell me: 'Who the f#ck is Bill Ryan, to have an attitude like that?'
Nobody I know has ever heard of the guy.

Someone just pm-ed me: “Did you know that Life of Brian originally was named Life of B. Ryan?”
No I kid you not.
It was only after B. Ryan had read the script he realized this movie was not about him but about his brother Brian.
Brian Ryan?
“One & the same”
No I kid you not!

B. Ryan: "You're all individuals !!!! "

Crowd: "Yes !!! We're all individuals !!!"

Lone Man: "I'm not. "

B. Ryan: "You don't need me or anyone else to tell you what to do.…"

Yep, that must be Brian.


Usually rats are the first to leave a sinking ship, but in this particular saga, it's the other way round.

Everyone with an open, healthy and slightly suspicious mind, has been kicked off of this boat & those with no mind of their own at all, are invited to sail the ship.

[Outlander]

MARCH 2010

Project avalon 2.. Are you havin a laugh?
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...t=21049&page=4

Project Avalon Hero Carol posted this:

JT, I think you are spot on when you claim the problem is with integrity and it starts at the top with the founders. Once again, Bill is unavailable with no welcoming message, no mission statement, or any word what-so-ever on PA2. Where is the captain of the ship?

I'm also very confused about Project Light Warrior as they want folks for games and portals.

Coming here to this forum is like watching a train wreck. Helping out at a new forum also has its challenges no matter where that forum is just because folks are so diverse and at so many levels of awareness and understanding. And the intention behind each forum is very different from each other.

I honestly don't think that Bill or Kerry were ever commited to this forum other then the idea to have it happen and help with the creative process in the design. This is clearly evident with respect to how involved they are "not." They are still very involved with what it takes to do Camelot and that really doesn't leave much time to participate on a forum as compared to the many members who do have time to be on the net.

What astonishes me is that this forum has almost 7,000 members. Where are they? What do they think? Personally, I'm sorry to see the hundreds if not thousands of hours the many, many volunteers put in to making this forum so full of great information come to an end. Some threads will be moved over to AV2 but what happens to PLW? I suspect over time all of this will eventually be sorted out but currently the hoopla and phoney rah, rah is a bit much.

If this is any example of how Bill runs his ship when he is involved heaven help AV2. The Captain needs to be there or the whole thing will eventually turn into yet another train wreck.

These almost 7,000 members have some choices to make if they wish to continue to be involved with PA at some level. They can join all of the forums and be a bit spread out. They can go with just one forum. They can just back up and drop it all together. This transition is about choices and the choice about staying here is not an option.

Let's look at this from another perspective as well. Let's look at earthchanges and ground crews who are networking. Those who accept this as a real possibility have taken steps to take care of themselves. If someone sees a tornado coming the smart thing to do is to relocate to a safe space. In this fourm's case it's a train wreck. The more aware members will have already found a safe place ~ while others will be checking out multiple other places rather then worrying about whether they will be rejected and not recieve an invitation to AV2. As I see it one can be pro-active and take control or be reactive and whine. Irrespective of how the choice plays itself, this forum is coming to an end.

Meanwhile, the many members are going through and adjustment period. Particularly the ones who were comfortable the way things were here. Personally, I've not been all that comfortable since almost day 1, yet did find things I could do here which made me happy.

It's all a matter of perspective JT. I think you understand better then most just exactly what has happened here. And let's be clear, part of the problem has absolutley nothing to do with any personality or group of personalities. It has to do with the technical difficulties related to running this particular forum. It is time for a change... it has to change if it is going to survive.

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[Outlander]

Swanny, with whom i wrote an absurd and hilarious thread about The Galactic Federation of Lies on PA1, has this to say about PA2:

OK here is my rant about pa2

Seems pretty obvious to me that it's about control. You only have to read the rules to see that

This is my favourite

Quote:

Any discussion of a product or service for sale, or of a website designed to sell products or services, is forbidden, even if you do not directly profit from such a discussion.

So if you find a site offering a good price for a water filter etc you are not allowed to share it with your friends, worst than that you can't even talk about it.
WTF is that all about????

I still don't understand the word censor.

You can say bum, ass, bottom but not ar$e.

We are here because the world we are living in is going trough massive changes and yet we are being treated like little kids.

Quote:

Everyone joined this forum to discuss OUR material, not to hear others showcase theirs. Members who insist on promoting / showcasing themselves, their own websites, philosophies, products, services or other unrelated teachings will be unsubscribed.

Does this mean T3J will not be allowed to talk about his dowsing?? And who is OUR???
Did Bill write this and wants us only to talk about his interviews?? Oops on the new forum I wont be able to mention his name unless it has been ok'ed

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I think who ever wrote those rules needs to rewrite them and bear in mind that the forum belongs to it's members, with out them they will have no one to control.

Hey don't worry the NFO will take care of us

If anyone wants a new job there are always vacancies for traffic wardens

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On 3-18-2010 I wrote:

I think it was Fredkc who said, that we are guests at this forum.

This remark hit the nail on the head.

We all tend to forget this, but indeed we are guests, & those who 'run' & own this forum, can do with it, as they please.

They can ban, mist, (infract) & warn who- & whenever it suits them.

To those who thought Avalon was a family where they could feel save, it must come as a bitter surprise that they've made a mistake.
Some might even feel betrayed.

But looking at the amount of voters in Greybeards poll-thread, 6500 members really don't give a sh#t about what happens at/with Project Avalon.

n.b. GOPL, I've read your post before it was 'edited'.
People who are looking for trouble usually find it.

[Outlander]

Right, it’s 03-25-2010, 11:09 PM

So Long, Farewell, Auf Wiedersehen, Goodbye!
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21192

Baron, another member with an open, healthy and slightly suspicious mind – and not in the least impressed by Bill’s heritage has this to say:

I would also like to say my farewells to all, as this forum is about to be closed in a dozen days for posting at least, and soon after everything will be lost! Because I don't think the fees will be kept up for long to vBulletin® Version 3.8.4, for a static forum, as they are not free or cheap$$$$.So all these posts will be lost most likely for good when its closed down for none payment of fees.All this information then be lost forever sadly!

I've been in a self imposed exile for a while because my critical expose and warning posts regarding some of the fraudsters and phony whistle-blowers Bill & Kerry interviewed, whom they believed,which were not welcome. Especially since I called them naive and gullible!

Even though some of them were exposed a decade before B&K came on the scene! They were given a new lease of lying life!

I tried to warn them in private first to no avail, as did others who had done real investigations on these frauds.

Even after presenting irrefutable evidence that they were frauds and not to promote or get involved with them for their own sake protecting their reputation and neutrality.

FrancieJones: was another who could not understand why Bill & Kerry would promote these frauds even after warning them. I understand that FranceJones got banned because she posted a private email from Bill, yet Bill posted a private email from Cliff High. A little bit of hypocrisy here I think? The pot calling the kettle black.

The only reason for being critical of Bill & kerry was so they did not get stung, it only takes a few fraudsters to break things up, and we only have to look what's happened.

So that's me out of ever being invited to the new forum2! LOL.

Oh before I go I will just remind you all even though my old posts will say much the same I will name the main frauds, so called whistle-blowers NOT.

Why oh why Bill do you believe this repeater of other peoples work, who is a liar and a fraud to boot, and who is NOT an MD aka Medical Doctor as he claims! The one license he did manage to wrangle that gave him the right to administer pharmaceuticals was revoked, and he was struck off years ago, after the death of young man and injuries to others! He was lucky not to have got 20 years minimum.Now a snake oil salesman using conspiracy to sell his wares via his radio show to those he scares to near death if not via pharmaceuticals.

His name? Bill Deagle! Yet he has been befriended by Bill so Bill sees neither his BS , lies or his history. Or the hypocrisy of his morbidly obese body of a man who sells people his health wares and lectures people on their health!

Why because he has cleverly welcomed you into his home and fed you?!!! And given you his BS answers that the powers that be set him up yadda yadda yadda! Yeah and I'm Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann who went to the MOON with my secret gov passport!

One of the reasons Michael St Clair became disillusioned with Bill was because of his reluctance to see through fear monger fraud Bll Deagle.The same for Cliff High sometime later.

I wonder why Richard Sauder of the underground bases had a beef with Bill & Kerry? Who wrote a scathing so called autonomous post at rense.com?

Dan Burisch: Another fraud and liar oh I almost forgot Dan Burisch is now against Project Camelot and he now hates Bill with a vengeance! Don't worry Bill he's nothing more than a lab assistant of one week, whose mentally a fantasist and thinks he's another professor of everything! The ultimate family and wife frauds who believe their own fantasies.

True Ott: Another phony who wont come on the conference scene anymore just in case his lack of credentials and BS is brought up another fear mongering snake oil salesman via radio! He thinks Jane Burgermeister (as did Deagle) stole his bird flu expose! Since he had the conspiracy copyright on it.A none Doctor a Chinese cookie paper diploma.WORTHLESS.

Jordan Maxwell: Aka real name Russell Pine! What can we say this man thinks he's a symbologist of the highest order yet for one elementary example he described the reason with conviction why Vikings had horns on their helmets? Vikings never ever had horns on their helmets its just a modern myth something Monty Python would play on! He repeats lots of nonsense mixed with some truths to sell his wares books to feed his ego and stomach!
A real Symbologist would know that!

Now for the piste de la resistance!

Henry Deacon aka Arthur Neumann: Well this man claims to have been to the moon works on black projects and has a secret passport which he has showed everybody and been to conferences overseas all paid for, and on video for all to see, all while still working on top secret projects for a secret government agency! Wow what a brave whistle blower! (This will explain his disappearance from the scene of late, the government has locked him up!) As confirmed and checked out by Bill & kerry! It never dawned on Bill & Kerry that he set them up to give himself some credibility? He got somebody he knew who called him Dr or Professor when he's neither and that was the legitimacy! LOL

Since he knows his cover is now blown I doubt we will hear from him again in public at least! I know that a sting is in place to expose him if he dares set foot on any podium or conference. His real occupation and who he really is will make him turn purple as well as those who believed this fraud, all for 15 minutes of fame!

Pete Peterson: Oh how we know who this guy is? Well this guy is a home tinker inventor of useless gadgets who has a work shop! But he is neither a whistle-blower scientist or works on black projects, unless you count him getting black in his workshop, nor does he hold an accredited doctorate what he has is something you buy off the internet worthless to make him look like somebody, the same as some of the above. He use to be seen at fairs trying to sell his gadgets and other rubbish, wonder why the secret government lets him do that?

Now one of these above has an occupation which is closer to a "janitor" than anything else, anybody guess who? Yet Bill & Kerry investigated him? Black opps janitor perhaps?

The group of truth seekers who decided to trace them and expose these phony's are waiting to pounce with their evidence,but only when it will make an impact.

Why because they are sick of these frauds fooling those who want to find the real truth about real conspiracies! Not fantasy they have picked up from books the internet and TV!

Yet they like others have tried to warn Bill & Kerry but they would not have it! These exposes are not meant to embarrass them, but they will sadly.

There are others who are similar but most of them are not trying to sell stuff or have an agenda.There just mostly telling their story. But these have to be exposed, far to many people are believing these frauds.

Bill & Kerry what you had was something great and those of us who have been critical have mostly been because of your lack of discernment not what you set out to do, which we all appreciated, but you blew it you got close to the wrong people and believed BS.

I hope you wake up or discover these frauds really are frauds and you have been hoodwinked, because these are no better than the Ron L Hubbard's of this world. Though the latter was much worse he was a pornographer and paedophile as well as a fraud with his criminal brainwashing Scientology BS.

Bill & Kerry if you get back to what you set out to do in a discerning manor you would have virtually no criticism and you would have grateful followers of your work,because you do have a talent for interviewing and asking good questions that engrosses the viewer or listener.

The truth shall set you free, avoid braggarts fantasists and loud aggressive persons for they are vexations to the soul.

Best Regards
Baron
PS: Moderator notice as usual no fowl language. I once got a warning here from one mod for using the swear word "obsequious"! LOL,that's Really true!

[Aragorn]

"Pretentious? Moi?"
What really p#sses me off about Bill Ryan, is that he seems to think he is some sort of godlike idol.

That comes with being a clinical narcissist, and he's not the only one in that regard. For that matter, Kerry Cassidy has also been endowed with a fair dose of that.

I've send this guy 2 or 3 emails, and never received an answer. – mind you, if I mail Bono, I get a reply within 24 hours max.

Well, I myself have also e-mailed him a couple of times — way before I was ever a member at La Casa Del Sombrero™ — and I must admit that he did actually reply to me each time, and quite cordially too. He even CC'ed Kerry Cassidy in on his reply — they were still actively working together at the time. But then again on the other hand, he did neglect replying to a question I asked him in a short PM exchange back when I was still a member at his palace.

E-mailing Kerry herself was like talking to a brick wall. I've sent her several e-mails with technical information that she herself was inquiring about on her blog, or in order to correct her on something she had all backwards, but never once did she reply — not even a simple "thank you" — or even return to the subject at hand on her blog. You see, I hadn't said the magic word, "Annunaki".