Bitcoin going Berko

**BabaRa** · 28th January 2014, 19:57

The good news (I think) is that more and more businesses are accepting it.

A big online store and 2 Las Vegas Casinos are now accepting it.

This can be looked at 2 ways.

The good: having it will be an advantage because we can buy things.

The bad: Are they simply trying to get it into their hands and out of ours. (Sadly, I've become suspicious of almost everything these days. Perhaps cautious would be a better description)

**BabaRa** · 28th January 2014, 23:53

Hey Sooz, I think you'll enjoy the speaker on the first part of this Coast to Coast broadcast about Bitcoin. He talks about the indictment of the people who allegedly laundered money through bitcoin.

http://jandeane81.com/threads/1875-C...7-January-2014

**Spiral** · 29th January 2014, 08:07

@Sooz I have moved this over here for you & I will remove it from the other post as they are unrelated stories, this is a livestream folks, you will need to convert the time to your local time to work out when its on !

BITCOIN : LIVE INQUIRY - ON CAMELOT LIVESTREAM

JOIN US! Wednesday, Jan 29th, at 7pm EST / 4pm Pacific Time:

LIVE On the Camelot Livestream Channel I will be talking with Paladin from the White Hats (currently a columnist here on the Camelot site), all about BITCOIN. Why it differs from fiat currency and the efforts of the PTB to stop it from replacing our monetary system. Paladin is uniquely qualified to weigh in on this topic as a forensic financial investigator with a background in corporate and government agency contracts.

As a member of the website responsible for the investigation and publishing of a number of reports following the money into black projects and down the rabbit hole (http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/ ) his views of this current challenge to the corrupt monetary system should be fascinating and enlightening to those who will take the time to listen.

LISTEN LIVE ON THE CAMELOT LIVESTREAM CHANNEL : http://livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/

**Spiral** · 29th January 2014, 08:21

Russia Bans Bitcoin, As Top Russian Bank Halts All Cash Withdrawals !

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nzff8XVmms

Published on Jan 28, 2014

Beware of the scheme. Watch as they manipulate the money over the Olympics!

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...sh-withdrawals

http://en.ria.ru/business/20140127/1...Jail-Time.html

**BabaRa** · 29th January 2014, 17:17

. . .and the beat goes on.

If I ever get my hands on that damn drummer!!!

, Poof!

**Sparky** · 1st February 2014, 18:17

Sooz:

Thanks for keeping this going. I knew the CIA was in on the ground floor with Bitcoin, stayed away and waited till concrete info appeared. Well, here it is published today. It was reported to be a "beta test" how electronic currency could/would work implementing the NWO.
http://<a href="http://www.youtube.c...4-overview</a>

If you click on “TruthNeverTold” next to •529 videos you’ll find many more videos on Bitcoin

video won't post...will look for another link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXm6p...re=c4-overview

**Sooz** · 15th February 2014, 05:34

'Five Finger Special':

Uh Oh.....a glitch in the system. Only a matter of time before someone found something to tinker with.
Possibly $36 million. A possible thief is from Oz....not me! Not with my computer skills.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygree...-funds-stolen/

BTC took a big tumble in recent days, plopped from around $1,000 AUS = 1 BTC. Plummetted to $638AUS, but slowly crawling back up as people are taking advantage of the low price.

Sooz

**Sooz** · 15th February 2014, 05:42

And this from Project Cameltoe (I mean Camelot)....

Mt Gox down due to a stuxnet like virus:

http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog...net-like-virus

**BabaRa** · 15th February 2014, 17:43

Partially to play the devil's advocate - and partially because, by nature, I resist following arrows that are coming from others - I like to connect my own dots - I'd like to propose some thoughts:

The Federal Reserve banking system controls just about all the money world-wide. And I think most of us know who controls the Federal Reserve.

Now imagine some form of currency crops up that they can not control - and it begins to gain popularity - and it won't go away.

What do you think they would do? . . . Maybe arrest Bitcoin CEO for money laundering - and splash the headlines. hmm, True or Not? Sting operation or not?

Now ask yourself, was anyone in the Libor rate fix arrested? hmm, AND HSBC was caught money laundering huge amounts last year. Were any of their CEO's arrested? . . .Answer: NO, slap on the wrist and a fine 1% of what they made.

Then to further create suspicion of public about BitCoin, the Fed's start releasing whistleblowers saying it is CIA controlled or owned or whatever to cause further confusion.

I'm not saying any of the above is true. I'm just saying be careful how quickly you follow arrows being shot by unknown archers to unknown potentially pre-determined conclusions. Could this be Problem, Reaction, Solution?

**norman** · 16th February 2014, 00:58

Originally posted by BabaRa

Partially to play the devil's advocate - and partially because, by nature, I resist following arrows that are coming from others - I like to connect my own dots - I'd like to propose some thoughts:

The Federal Reserve banking system controls just about all the money world-wide. And I think most of us know who controls the Federal Reserve.

Now imagine some form of currency crops up that they can not control - and it begins to gain popularity - and it won't go away.

What do you think they would do? . . . Maybe arrest Bitcoin CEO for money laundering - and splash the headlines. hmm, True or Not? Sting operation or not?

Now ask yourself, was anyone in the Libor rate fix arrested? hmm, AND HSBC was caught money laundering huge amounts last year. Were any of their CEO's arrested? . . .Answer: NO, slap on the wrist and a fine 1% of what they made.

Then to further create suspicion of public about BitCoin, the Fed's start releasing whistleblowers saying it is CIA controlled or owned or whatever to cause further confusion.

I'm not saying any of the above is true. I'm just saying be careful how quickly you follow arrows being shot by unknown archers to unknown potentially pre-determined conclusions. Could this be Problem, Reaction, Solution?

Works both ways.

I'm not a CIA/NSA operator and I'm seriously anti bitcoin and the rest. I see it as the first stage of a globally centralised currency. Although the enthusiasts prefer to see it as quite the opposite.

Mass clout, is what we'll be giving up if bitcoin becomes the 'rebel' currency. The big law making guys are making noises as though they are against it. That works 2 ways. It convinces the national political class that something is being done to stop it catching fire. It also convinces the new-agers and the rebels/patriots, who struggle to ever really see the big picture, that if the 'bad guys' don't like it, it must be a good thing.

I'll just say, never underestimate 'the enemy' .

As time goes on, I see this; I see the bad guys gaining more and more organisation, and I see the rest of us losing what organisation we ever had. Talking on the internet is NOT organisation, and probably never will be. Most internet talk seems to me to be reducing everything down to "everybody's got a view and their own truth". It's what's bound to happen when millions of perfect strangers get talking in cyberspace. The trouble with that is that it's straight out of the 'Madam Blavatski' play book and has obviously been very well anticipated to diss-empower us inversely as we, ourselves, one by one, claim our own little bits of personal sovereignty.

These guys are bloody magicians, remember.

**BabaRa** · 16th February 2014, 19:12

Originally posted by norman

I'm not a CIA/NSA operator and I'm seriously anti bitcoin and the rest. I see it as the first stage of a globally centralised currency. Although the enthusiasts prefer to see it as quite the opposite.

I hear what you're saying, but I'm not convinced a globally centralized currency has to be bad. It depends on how and who controls it.

In my mind we already have just that, as the Central banks in almost every country are controlled by the same group. Even though we 'call' our currencies by different names, truth is they are all being manipulated to suit tptb's agenda. If bitcoin - the emphasis on if - is not in their control, it could potentially be a good thing.

I'll just say, never underestimate 'the enemy' .

. . I never do, but I'm not convinced those behind bitcoin ARE the enemy.

As time goes on, I see this; I see the bad guys gaining more and more organisation, and I see the rest of us losing what organisation we ever had. Talking on the internet is NOT organisation, and probably never will be. Most internet talk seems to me to be reducing everything down to "everybody's got a view and their own truth".

I see the same things, Norman, and sometimes I get discouraged. But there is something inside of me that always reverts back to the positive. I sometimes wonder: False Hope? Maybe. But more often I've come to understand that one of my jobs (and I'm just one of many) is to inspire. So I do my job as best I can, and I don't see it as work, as it truly comes from the heart.

These guys are bloody magicians, remember.

I well remember. But, we are miracle workers, it's just most of us haven't quite discovered or believe it fully yet.

**BabaRa** · 27th February 2014, 05:04

Just two days ago, the largest bitcoin exchange MTGox suddenly and without warning shuttered its doors, blocking all customers from accessing their accounts which are collectively worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

The entire MTGox website now reads:

Dear MtGox Customers,

In light of recent news reports and the potential repercussions on MtGox's operations and the market, a decision was taken to close all transactions for the time being in order to protect the site and our users. We will be closely monitoring the situation and will react accordingly.

Best regards,
MtGox Team

This from Mike Adams of Natural News:

(NaturalNews) In April of 2013, I warned Natural News readers about investing in Bitcoin, saying on the record:

The bitcoin infrastructure is subject to the whims of just one person running MTGox who can arbitrarily decide to shut it down whenever he thinks the market needs a "cooling period." This is nearly equivalent to a financial dictatorship where one person calls the shots.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/044090_bi...#ixzz2uV2aP8Eq

**Sooz** · 27th February 2014, 05:31

Thanks BabaRa,

When I heard of Mt Gox hitting the skids, I went scurrying frantically to see if my miniscule amount of BTC wasn't connected to them.

It wasn't I'm glad to say.

I meant to post this the other day...another interesting take on the Mt Gox 'crash and burn':

http://www.techinsider.com.au/2014/0...t-end-bitcoin/

My guess is that it will be a wild ride - I don't think we've heard the end of BTC.

That's my optimistic view although I'm probably biased, lol....

**Sooz** · 27th February 2014, 07:47

Here you go, everyone's an expert, yet another perspective:

http://www.naturalnews.com/044090_bi..._collapse.html

Yeah, like everyone has got money to go out and buy a farm, lol....good luck with that.

**Altaira** · 28th February 2014, 07:55

I'm not following bitcoin because I personally think this is currency supported by the bankers, otherwise it wouldn't been able to exist so long time without real resistance from the banks. Instead it seems its been existing peacefully within the regular currency. The video below explains it better and resonates with my own thoughts. However I think also it can be good for making quick money for those who know more about this.