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    What Will It Take to Change the World?

    In my opinion, Mother Nature, including us, is self-correcting.

    By this I mean that it is built in to reality that solutions to any problem will happen, with a caveat: We have to be aware of facts. If we're misinformed, the system breaks down.

    So, uncovering incorrect information is our task. Once we do that, Mother Nature kicks in and solutions to society's problems evolve naturally.

    I think the most important thing we need to do to facilitate change is to show respect for whistleblowers and activists who are trying to uncover false information publicly. What they're doing is the key to our success. If we shoot them down, we hurt ourselves, because we need the truth to be told.

    We need rational discussion of subject matters, yes—but ridicule is not rational discussion.

    Rather, it perpetuates false information, because it is the first step toward a quagmire of in-fighting that will ensue.
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    Whistleblowers are supposed to have the law behind them but it appears they don't. Obama was unable to keep his promises regarding whistleblowers. Trump has never made any promises of protection. They get targeted, arrested, and even their families have trouble.

    Personally, I don't know what the solution is to this problem. How do you protect whistleblowers from a system that doesn't want them talking?

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    How do you protect whistleblowers from a system that doesn't want them talking?
    That is the huge challenge that we face, and it is scary.

    I used to be active in politics as a Democrat. But at the same time, I was learning a great deal from Alex Jones, who would be a Republican if he were in Congress.

    Then I heard him point out that the globalists hoodwink us into going along with the New World Order agenda by embroiling us publicly in the "left-right paradigm," which they create by controlling both major parties behind the scenes. This includes blackmailing politicians.

    My conclusion is that politics as we know it is nothing but time-consuming theater and we have to look elsewhere for solutions.

    Somehow, we the people are going to have to re-shape how we govern ourselves.

    Surely the internet will play a major role?

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    What has it taken to change the world, imo the self correcting as you put it was started long long ago but to timeline it of recent, Harmonic Convergence aug 16 n 17 th, 1987, was a significant point, the point, for many who timeline events now wise these days.

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    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    I used to be active in politics as a Democrat. But at the same time, I was learning a great deal from Alex Jones, who would be a Republican if he were in Congress.

    Then I heard him point out that the globalists hoodwink us into going along with the New World Order agenda by embroiling us publicly in the "left-right paradigm," which they create by controlling both major parties behind the scenes. This includes blackmailing politicians.
    Blackmail, extortion, bribing and the simple construct of "conflicting interests". Many high-profile politicians — e.g. Dick Cheney in the USA — are actually also employed in top-level positions at multinational corporations.

    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    My conclusion is that politics as we know it is nothing but time-consuming theater and we have to look elsewhere for solutions.
    Of course.

    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    Somehow, we the people are going to have to re-shape how we govern ourselves.

    Surely the internet will play a major role?
    This was actually one of the major topics of TOTcast XVII, which was uploaded yesterday, and our intent is to continue talking about the same topic in the next TOTcast.

    It has to be a grassroots thing. Politicians are people in a position of power, and they are in said position because that's exactly where they want to be, and because with every election, they manage to convince the people to keep on supporting them. But it's all smoke & mirrors, divide & conquer.


    “The most improper job of any man, even saints
    (who at any rate were at least unwilling to take it on),
    is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it,
    and least of all those who seek the opportunity.”


    (J.R.R. Tolkien)


    The hard part is how to convince the people who make up the vast majority of society. So long as people keep on acquiescing to the corrupt political dog & pony show, there's very little hope of changing anything. The general public is voluntarily offering itself up for enslavement by the political and corporate machine, and the latter two are protected by a slightly larger minority who have been granted the right to carry and use lethal weapons by the "elite" smaller minority.

    The only way to overturn this is through the hearts and minds of the people. And like I said, that is the hard part. It requires a fundamental change in the way people think — a genuine paradigm shift.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    It requires a fundamental change in the way people think —
    And the way they feel.

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    - Firstly throw out the Fiat Money system. Strip all the assets from the Banks and redistribute it to the people. Make steps towards an Ubuntu system.
    - Use distributed electronics to allow direct Democracy. Representative government does not work. Has to be done in steps as most of the populace is presently not educated enough to understand the true nature of the controlling "elite" and the serious misinformation bending the sciences, history, institutions, political systems, or levers of power.
    - Set up a truth and reconciliation process and take all of the Klepto-Kontrollers out of power. You can't own Gaia, nor anything derived from it. Those who have done serious crimes must be put away, but not killed, no matter how serious the crime.
    - recover the black science technology from the Secret Space Programs, etc. and turn that tech back to the people directly.

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    So I would inquire as to the 'nature' of Mother Nature as the first step of knowledge without which one cannot identify any inherent problem within this system.

    Mother Nature's actual responsibility for all the allowed and perceived harm upon Terra must be considered as she is the architect of the physical beings needs to be!
    You die without her air!
    You die without her water!
    You die without her food!

    She only has given you 8% of her surface to 'live' upon....the rest you will die in your natural physical form!

    Sol will dehydrate and burn you to death but without it you will surely die?

    Could continue but....strange Mother you love?

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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    - Set up a truth and reconciliation process and take all of the Klepto-Kontrollers out of power. You can't own Gaia, nor anything derived from it. Those who have done serious crimes must be put away, but not killed, no matter how serious the crime.
    I like that one.

    Many people would be afraid to say that, but I agree with you.

    I have always been against the death penalty, because it is the state doing what the state says is wrong to do.
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    We exist within a system. You can neither enjoy nor be warned by a smell if you don't breathe.

    These bodies need what's here because they are from here. But we are more than just our bodies.

    And the planet houses more than just us. The various life kingdoms are also part of earth and have needs intrinsic to existing on Her.

    It's pretty wonderfully strange. Photosynthesis is a worldwide, very common miracle. imo.

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    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    I like that one.

    Many people would be afraid to say that, but I agree with you.

    I have always been against the death penalty, because it is the state doing what the state says is wrong to do.
    Given my Germanic/Scottish/Viking heritage, this was a big step for me. IMO, jails/prisons are a punishment system largely for folks who have done "bad" things to the Klepto-Kontroller system. Folks made crazy by the system are put in jails/prison and I believe that goes all the way up the chain including the top.

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    Check out the books of Neale Donald Walsch, and his website "The Global Conversation.com" for a serious very clear cut set of solutions for changing the world. His most recent book, "Awakening the Species" is also an eye-opener. All of Walsch's work clearly delineates that our problems at base are not social, economic, political, military, religious or any other of the common beliefs. They are clearly SPIRITUAL. When we finally come home to ourselves, we will find the solutions to the world's problems. I've mentioned before that just throwing money at the problems doesn't work.
    Witness the Foster Gamble proof, as I call it. He spent a great deal identifying the problems, but nothing to solve them.
    Modwiz has commented here before about his experience with Gamble.

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    Quote Originally posted by Gale Frierson View Post
    When we finally come home to ourselves, we will find the solutions to the world's problems.
    Very inspiring!

    I will definitely follow up. I had not heard of him before. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally posted by Gale Frierson View Post
    Check out the books of Neale Donald Walsch, and his website "The Global Conversation.com" for a serious very clear cut set of solutions for changing the world.
    If you have the time and the inclination, I would be very interested in your take on an initiative that I posted on another thread, "Slave Colony on Mars Claim Goes Mainstream."

    The initiative is sponsored by Robert David Steele and Cynthia McKinney to try to out-maneuver the globalists surrounding the U.S. President, by going to the grassroots to try to get legislation called the Election Reform Act of 2017 enacted.

    The post about this initiative is #26.

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