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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    T, are you familiar with the Saturn Death Cult stuff?

    The literal and physical journey the planet Saturn has taken from being a brown dwarf star and Earth’s original sun to its subsequent banishment to the outer reaches of our current solar system is the story of the known Ages of Man according to the mythological, esoteric and occult traditions

    Hmm, does not seem plausible with what I currently comprehend of astrophysics.

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    Nice, your doing xlent research TargetT, imo sea levels will continue to rise exponentially due to weather changes and Sun changes, silly enough will get on the whole colder also.
    I rather doubt sea levels will rise, if it is a mini-ice age (0r true ice age, which is a funny term, geologically speaking we are in an "ice age" now as the polar ice caps never melt) sea levels would most likely drop, as glaciers and other land-based ice masses grow.

    I still go with this tactic: everything you hear on TV; the opposite is probably true. So when I hear that "the sea levels are rising" I look for the opposite, I find many submerged structures just off the coast in areas all over the world... does this indicate a sea level rise from many years ago, are we already at the "risen" sea levels that we are afraid of? We know that all of Canada and some of the US was covered in what is estimated to be a mile thick sheet of ice which had to have affected the sea levels as Eurasia was in a similar state.

    I think the "sea levels rising" meme is a red herring.
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    There's sea levels and also land rising. As glaciers receded, land literally rose from under all the weight.

    Based on the long-term graphs of glacial cycles we're in for a little bit more warming which will cause more melting and more land rising and then we're gonna go into an ice age.

    As far as those of us alive now, it seems obvious to me that what we're in for is what we're already getting. More extreme weather of all sorts.

    Recent millennia have been a calm period, climatically.

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    What i dont get is this.In the UK they have these huge computers that so called predicted the weather and climate years in the future and the scientist base their reports on that.

    We have been told that record number of ice bergs are melting but at the same time there is a record more being created.

    Can we rely on computer models to predict future climate change mmmmmmmm.
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    Quote Originally posted by The One View Post
    Can we rely on computer models to predict future climate change mmmmmmmm.
    I'll listen to them when they get the weather right 2 days in advance... haha
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    Quote Originally posted by The One View Post
    What i dont get is this.In the UK they have these huge computers that so called predicted the weather and climate years in the future and the scientist base their reports on that.

    We have been told that record number of ice bergs are melting but at the same time there is a record more being created.

    Can we rely on computer models to predict future climate change mmmmmmmm.
    As a computer guy who has built extensive models for both the gooberment (military) and personal (sports forecasting) and doing fairly extensive data collection and weather forecasting I can tell you that anybody who says they can forecast years into the future has fallen in love with their modeling and lost sight of the limitations.

    Read "The Signal and the Noise" by Nate Silver:

    https://www.amazon.com/Signal-Noise-.../dp/B009HL6444

    To get a clear eyed view on modeling.

    Silver is probably one of the best political forecasters and has done extensive sports modeling as well.

    Circling back to weather, the data set is extremely large, and has extensive missing data sets as yet uncollected.

    So I'd put NO credence into any weather modeling for forecasting beyond a few days for short-run spot forecasting, or a few months for long range, large area forecasting. And then realize that the probabilities of being correct diminish rapidly the further out one forecasts.
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