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    The one thing I AM sure of is what a lady friend I worked with over thirty years ago told me. She grew up in Nazi Germany and saw how mesmerized the people were by him. They thought he was the greatest thing since applesauce. They thought the highways and schools he was building were for the society. What they didn't know (according to her) was he built the highways to move his military machine, and he built the schools for his Hitlerjugend (his hate corps). Was she right or wrong? Also Anne Frank in her novel clearly said the same thing as Gregg Braden: She believed that people (humankind) are inherently good. Braden puts it as we are hardwired for good.

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    Ok, since I've achieved Aragorn's Uber Woo-woo level, I'll attempt the Mega Woo-Woo Level with the second shoe I'll drop on Montauk.

    But don't worry, it's is still concerned the Nazi Thread Theme on how the Nazis are (not) misunderstood good guys:

    The Philly-Montauk connection is a 40 year "biorhythm" like Gaia sine wave where exactly 40s years after the Philly Experiment, some sort of Tesla Technology connection was established between the Montauk and the Philly Experiments with the goal to rip a hole in the "time-space continuum" whereby bad-guy aliens could invade our dimension. Since the Paperclip Nazis were allied with the Reptilians, I'd assume the rip was to allow pulling in more Reptilians and their ET allies. Then, once here, they could run up and down our timelines, changing history to suit them. There are several Montauk books by Peter Moon, worth a read perhaps, getting into much of this.

    Now Reptilians and DW's "pre-Adamites" don't get along. We have Nazis with the Reptilians, the Kazarian/Vatican mob with the Annunaki/Pre-Adamite crowd. These guys both want to run things even though, according to DW, they are all ultimately controlled by AI at the top. Why have two main groups? Well, you improve your football team by intramural teams and games; same reasoning applies here.

    Everything was going along just peachy for the bad guys until Dec 2012 happens and some sort of blockage is in place where the bad guys couldn't see past 2012 or do much to that/those future(s). This is where our collective "free-will" can fvck with their plans, according to DW among others. According to CG & DW, we just need to turn off the Kardashians and wake the fvck up to our "reality" and mind-control the bad guys out of existence.

    Now I gotta vent a bit: where does free will come in when the nasty ETs were allowed to come here with uber tech, time travel, mess up timelines, and create general chaos all carefully hidden to us in the first place? I don't remember giving them a pass. Then seeing the fvcked-up-id-ness the Baddies do, the Blue Avians now intervene, again not clearing it with us, throw up sun energy barriers, whisper in CG's ear and absolutely blowing holes in the prime directive? Why not block out the bad-guys from the solar system in the first place? Their Blue Bird tech can see timelines better than the lower-level bad-guy ETs can. It really sounds too contrived to me.
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    Quote Originally posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    But don't worry, it's is still concerned the Nazi Thread Theme on how the Nazis are (not) misunderstood good guys:
    I think that we should evaluate Hitler himself the best we can separately from the Nazis, in general. Of course both are relevant. But I don't think we should lump the two together as one entity.

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    Quote Originally posted by Gale Frierson View Post
    The one thing I AM sure of is what a lady friend I worked with over thirty years ago told me. She grew up in Nazi Germany and saw how mesmerized the people were by him. They thought he was the greatest thing since applesauce. They thought the highways and schools he was building were for the society. What they didn't know (according to her) was he built the highways to move his military machine, and he built the schools for his Hitlerjugend (his hate corps). Was she right or wrong? Also Anne Frank in her novel clearly said the same thing as Gregg Braden: She believed that people (humankind) are inherently good. Braden puts it as we are hardwired for good.
    If you read some historical stuff, you will find that the autobahnen were built to aid commerce and trade.
    The Hitlerjugend were there to condition kids before getting to the RAD, the Reichs Arbeits Dienst, the labor service, which preceded military service.

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    I think that we should evaluate Hitler himself the best we can separately from the Nazis, in general. Of course both are relevant. But I don't think we should lump the two together as one entity.
    They are actually almost one and the same.
    Before joining the DAP, the nascent NSDAP as it became, there was no Hitler.
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    I'm very wary of docs and people who are trying to paint Hitler and the nazis in a good light. Same would apply to Stalin, the fact was that he was a mass murdering psychopath. I think some people are unable to understand what kind of atrocities humans and human leaders are capable of committing or then they are just in denial.

    That being said, I don't believe all official accounts. For example, it seems that Hitler didn't kill himself and actually moved to South America with the rest of his fellow nazis. Remote viewing data seems to be supporting this theory.

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    Quote Originally posted by Wind View Post
    I'm very wary of docs and people who are trying to paint Hitler and the nazis in a good light. Same would apply to Stalin, the fact was that he was a mass murdering psychopath. I think some people are unable to understand what kind of atrocities humans and human leaders are capable of committing or then they are just in denial.

    That being said, I don't believe all official accounts. For example, it seems that Hitler didn't kill himself and actually moved to South America with the rest of his fellow nazis. Remote viewing data seems to be supporting this theory.
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    Quote Originally posted by Lord Sidious View Post
    Wanna see his house?
    Sure.

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    Ní siocháin go saoirse

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    Interesting, I've never heard of that before.

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    There ya go, that is his main house where he lived.
    Google the name of it.
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    Quote Originally posted by Gale Frierson View Post
    The one thing I AM sure of is what a lady friend I worked with over thirty years ago told me. She grew up in Nazi Germany and saw how mesmerized the people were by him. They thought he was the greatest thing since applesauce. They thought the highways and schools he was building were for the society. What they didn't know (according to her) was he built the highways to move his military machine, and he built the schools for his Hitlerjugend (his hate corps). Was she right or wrong? Also Anne Frank in her novel clearly said the same thing as Gregg Braden: She believed that people (humankind) are inherently good. Braden puts it as we are hardwired for good.
    Well, having been raised by a German mother and being around a bunch of relatives, I never heard anyone talking about "what a good guy Herr Hitler was." As I was born in 1948, I knew a lot of them after the "German miracle" of a revived economy in the late 50s and early 60s, so it wasn't after-war depression.

    I also lived in the Netherlands in the 90s. I got to know a lot of Dutch and quite a number of their horror stories in the "Hoek of Holland" (the corner of The Netherlands between Amsterdam, to The Hague, around to Rotterdam): these good guy Nazis literally starved the Dutch population for well over a year.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_famine_of_1944–45

    The impacts are still being felt on the children who were born during that time and for the next generation as well with poor health, etc. One year, during the celebration of their liberation day from the Nazis, my neighbor who lived through that time, come over and thanked me, as an American, for my country liberating them from such terrible oppression. I thanked her on behalf of my father who fought on the American side, but never told her that my Grandfather on my mother's side lost his life at the battle of Stalingrad fighting for the Nazi war machine. My Scottish surname covered for me. I lived there for 8 years and never told anyone of my German heritage, not even other NATO Germans as the hatred from the Dutch was really just too much. That hatred was earned by an extremely oppressive occupation in WWII.

    The Nazis AND Herr Hitler were NOT nice people AND are contributing to the misery on our planet TO THIS VERY DAY. I don't care how many revisionist history videos you trot out.
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    Another aspect, after invasion, the Nazi's teamed up with some nasties to keep control, the nasties had grudges to.

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Another aspect, after invasion, the Nazi's teamed up with some nasties to keep control, the nasties had grudges to.
    According to my Research, the Nazi/Reptilians at Montauk drove the support group to hit the exact date 40 years after the Philly Experiment: August 12, 1983 to set up the time loop. Then Al Bielek and his brother, who were sailors on the Eldridge jumped off the ship when they saw massive arcing, and then were thrown into a future date. Once there, they were convinced to time travel back, cut cables and stop the loop but not before some nasties had used the dimensional rift.

    http://www.bielek.com/ab_albielek.htm

    So, maybe we have a time-travel chicken/egg situation here, but it looks to me that the Nazi/Reptile connection had been established to allow the rift.

    Also, according to CG & DW, the Nazi's signed up with the Reptilians before WWII. Don't ask me why with the tech the Reptilians had, the Nazis didn't wipe the map of all opposition but perhaps the Kazarian/Vatican "pre-Adamite" faction was also gimmicking timelines and left us in this one where the Nazis came close but no cigar, or perhaps they wanted a result close to what we have as the US turned into the 4th Reich anyway.

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    Will admit to not having viewed and/or read everything within this thread - but - I did feel compelled to comment. I learned that Hitler and Braun were protected and given a covert and well planned escort from Germany. I always had questions about the single black and white photograph of a burned corpse - apparently - that of Hitler within the bunker. Many years later, I discovered well researched information and evidence recording the lovely life Hitler and Braun had residing in South America. They had a daughter and appeared to have a cosy family life.

    My 'feelings' and that niggling question had been answered - at least for me and others are always free to disagree with me. As for the story about the Art Teacher stating unkind words to a young Hitler and causing his hatred ... always had some niggling questions about that as well.

    The reign of war always brings pain and loss - to all involved - even those who watch from a safe distance. The horrors that I have seen via photographs state it all. Hitler was the mouthpiece for a reign of horror. Nydelig Unger - You are not nameless and You are not forgotten. Your pain is now a part of my consciousness. I sincerely send thoughts of Peace to all who suffered. There are some particularly disturbing photographs I have viewed that depict the surgical horrors inflicted upon Children - I won't describe them but they go far beyond evil.

    And as always, to paraphrase our beloved George Carlin: ... sending other peoples Children off to die in war .... Those words sum it up for me. I will return to this thread and view and read it all. One comment about the technology being worked on during the second world war - Germany, I have no doubt was in possession of and most likely utilising advanced technology. It makes sense. While the masses are enmeshed in the war - get everything in the 'workshops' and 'laboratories' operational. Interesting to note that Sodium Fluoride was first placed in the public water system in Germany during 1939 - 1945. Hmmmm ....

    Much Respect & Much Peace - Amanda

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    The propaganda post ww2 by two men that is the now narrative about the nasty ww2 Nazi and german people, which holds much falseness, that is talked about towards the end of 6 hour doc.
    Quote Originally posted by KeepTrying View Post
    Did Dennis Wise name the two men?
    Was it in Part 24?
    I watched the beginning of Part 24 “What If Germany Had Won?” looking for the names of the two men.

    I didn’t find the answer but in relation to propaganda post WWII demonizing Hitler the Hollywood movie industry, the majority of U.S. television networks, newspapers, and the publishing houses is talked about. Specifically, the movie Schindler’s List, which was based on a book of fiction, is talked about as being shown to school children as truth.

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