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    It was like a revelation when I first heard these two. It's one thing to have some skill and be really funny. It's another to actually be badass while you're being a comic. It's not so easy.

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    Quote Originally posted by modwiz View Post
    That is why I said "IMO". It is a narrative word and its connotation to many people is largely escapist. But, I will not niggle over word interpretations. DW implied that cultures that disappeared were "raised" to a higher dimension. He used the word ascension. A convenient cover for the murderous parasitical theologies that were bent on extermination for their angry god.
    I seem to be hearing that your thoughts on ascension are that it is ridiculous and I absolutely agree.

    I personally don't even view ancient cultures with the idea that they were necessarily altruistic/benevolent practitioners.
    I give credence to Edgar Cayce and his statements regarding Atlantis as having a warring faction between "the children of Belial" and the "followers of the law of one".
    I'm of the opinion that the "children of belial" practiced energy harvesting in their rituals, and this extended to human sacrifice.
    We see the Aztec culture and Mayan culture as practicing human sacrifice to a pretty large extent and to me atleast this feels like a hold over from the those practices used by the "children of belial" in Atlantis.
    Castaneda is so fascinating to me on so many levels because of some of the things he hints at.
    In the "Eagles Gift" he talks about the pyramids of the ancient sorcerers of Mexico being places modern humans should stay away from
    He would go on to say that those ancient sorcerers knew how to capture and use human energy and that these pyramids were made expressly for this.
    Castaneda stated many times that the ancient sorcerer/seers were very macabre and were not above doing whatever it took to increase their personal power.
    One such story was of how they considered it fair game to take a victim sorcerer and eat him alive in order to absorb the essence and power of that individual.
    Castaneda never out and out says it, but he hints many times that these practices and the builders of these pyramids came from Atlantis.

    I also think the elite of our modern times have stumbled on to these practices and carry out these rituals themselves now.

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    Quote Originally posted by DNA View Post
    I seem to be hearing that your thoughts on ascension are that it is ridiculous and I absolutely agree.

    I personally don't even view ancient cultures with the idea that they were necessarily altruistic/benevolent practitioners.
    I give credence to Edgar Cayce and his statements regarding Atlantis as having a warring faction between "the children of Belial" and the "followers of the law of one".
    I'm of the opinion that the "children of belial" practiced energy harvesting in their rituals, and this extended to human sacrifice.
    We see the Aztec culture and Mayan culture as practicing human sacrifice to a pretty large extent and to me atleast this feels like a hold over from the those practices used by the "children of belial" in Atlantis.
    Castaneda is so fascinating to me on so many levels because of some of the things he hints at.
    In the "Eagles Gift" he talks about the pyramids of the ancient sorcerers of Mexico being places modern humans should stay away from
    He would go on to say that those ancient sorcerers knew how to capture and use human energy and that these pyramids were made expressly for this.
    Castaneda stated many times that the ancient sorcerer/seers were very macabre and were not above doing whatever it took to increase their personal power.
    One such story was of how they considered it fair game to take a victim sorcerer and eat him alive in order to absorb the essence and power of that individual.
    Castaneda never out and out says it, but he hints many times that these practices and the builders of these pyramids came from Atlantis.

    I also think the elite of our modern times have stumbled on to these practices and carry out these rituals themselves now.
    Well, I don't care for the whole ascension thing, but the math I run tells me that it is very probable. I don't like most of the stuff I found in the alt-world, but again here the math says it's probable so I accept the likelihood.

    Question, did Cayce actually say "Law of One"? Or is an interpretation? I'm sure you know DW claims to be the "2nd coming" of Cayce.

    re: places to stay away from. A very good friend tells me of objects that are "cursed" and places that are "cursed / possessed." She claims she can see the possessing critters. I know her well enough to believe she is on to something.
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    Wynn Free originally wrote the book about DW being the reincarnation of Caye. They worked together for a while. I've heard David moving away from that in recent years. Not disputing but more trying to push it aside and talk about ascension and the holographic universe and his insiders and disclosure...

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    DW's article Finacial tyranny imo was an xlent kick in the teeth for tptW at that time, was impressive, even now it is impressive.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    It was like a revelation when I first heard these two. It's one thing to have some skill and be really funny. It's another to actually be badass while you're being a comic. It's not so easy.
    Skip to 1:10 for a musical treat

    Even better if you're a Josh Homme/QOTSA fan.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=220DlL6K5_c
    Last edited by Aragorn, 29th October 2017 at 11:45. Reason: fixed your video link ;)

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    Bugger, will not play ( error )

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    Quote Originally posted by Aianawa View Post
    Bugger, will not play ( error )
    It will now. I fixed the link.
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    Fun stuff, thanks.

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    Quote Originally posted by Lemual View Post
    Skip to 1:10 for a musical treat

    Even better if you're a Josh Homme/QOTSA fan.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=220DlL6K5_c
    Funny!

    Here's the Yang to the Yin:


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    Umm.. Josh Homme

    Jandals and socks with some SUPER bulging white shorts.
    Man o man
    *goes off to do that mindseye healing on the shorts*

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    Haha jandals... You Kiwis! I know what you mean though.

    2 recorders though... I thought that was pretty awesome.

    To be a little more back on topic I had a similar thought to this thread a while ago but it broke down a little different.

    My basic idea was to assign a % to each general belief in the alternative community. This could be done personally or as a collective. As the belief got more "out there" you would see a lowering of the percentage, ie the likelyhood that you think the certain thing is true.

    For example (for me personally):

    Existence of ET life - 100% (or as close to it as you can get)
    Existence of intelligent ET life - 99.99%
    "They" have visited Earth - 99%
    "They" visit Earth regularly - 99%
    "Paranormal" phenomenon are real - 95%
    There is a large scale (grand) human conspiracy - 95%
    We have had official (governmental) dealings with "them" - 90%
    .
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    An alien agenda is at the top of the conspiracy - 50%
    All ET's are friendly - 20%
    All ET's are unfriendly - 15%
    Inevitable ascension - 10%


    I feel like this leaves a little more wiggle room for uncertainty but can still indicate your general thoughts on certain topics. Be mindful though, even a low percentage warrants consideration.

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    ok,

    the only one I would disagree with from your percentages is the conspiracy aspect. I would 'qualify' that question somewhat by adding 'organized'

    I don't really believe organized conspiracies exist at the top as in Them vs the world. I tend to believe that 'control' naturally drifts to the top and individuals/groups take advantage of the power at their disposal. So, i would give organized conspiracy a 10% and 'natural' conspiracy a 70%

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    Quote Originally posted by Lemual View Post
    Haha jandals... You Kiwis! I know what you mean though.

    2 recorders though... I thought that was pretty awesome.

    To be a little more back on topic I had a similar thought to this thread a while ago but it broke down a little different.

    My basic idea was to assign a % to each general belief in the alternative community. This could be done personally or as a collective. As the belief got more "out there" you would see a lowering of the percentage, ie the likelyhood that you think the certain thing is true.

    For example (for me personally):

    Existence of ET life - 100% (or as close to it as you can get)
    Existence of intelligent ET life - 99.99%
    "They" have visited Earth - 99%
    "They" visit Earth regularly - 99%
    "Paranormal" phenomenon are real - 95%
    There is a large scale (grand) human conspiracy - 95%
    We have had official (governmental) dealings with "them" - 90%
    .
    .
    .
    An alien agenda is at the top of the conspiracy - 50%
    All ET's are friendly - 20%
    All ET's are unfriendly - 15%
    Inevitable ascension - 10%


    I feel like this leaves a little more wiggle room for uncertainty but can still indicate your general thoughts on certain topics. Be mindful though, even a low percentage warrants consideration.
    This is very much like my approach except my numbers are derived from my direct observations (set as axioms) and then calcs made from there. I have very different %s for those things on your list and I will get my calcs out later today (I'm on my iPad, calcs are on the Mac) and post my %s against each of your categories (many of mine are the same or similar for ETs)
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    I was pretty fast and loose with some of those percentages (I was at work). I'll likely revise some and add some to any category you include.

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