I mentioned that I feel that the MSM is an information source that we can learn from because any news "push" is trying to "sell" us on something.
I contend that the MSM's current drum beat on Global Warming is very much along this line. But everyone tends to divide up into two camps:
1) Global warming is real and caused by Carbon Dioxide: most of the Main Stream Press especially the "liberal" side
2) Global Warming is fake news, data is made up by Global Warming alarmists : Conservative MSN (Fox, etc)
I contend there is a 3rd point:
Global Warming is real, and caused by the Sun warming up. This comes from evidence presented by David Wilcock that you can verify yourself:
I observe the Sun daily at sunrise; the color has changed over just the last 2-3 years. I have photo evidence as well.
Sun was red at sunrise, it is now yellow.
It was yellow at zenith, it is now white.
Talk to anybody who work outside: roofers, landscapers, etc, they will all tell you that the sun seems to have gotten hotter and they can get more sunburns if not careful
also, this video from Suspicious Observers is very pertinent:
So, I contend that both MSN groups are engaging in "fake" evidence to cover the real reason: The Sun is growing hotter and heating the entire solar system and, yes, Global Warming is indeed real.
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started to watch this but when it showed "we need to decrease the population" i shut it off! that is the biggest lie of all!
Well, we can always start the depopulation with the politicians, military commanders, religious leaders, bankers and multinational CEOs. That should sufficiently clean up the atmosphere and free up resources.
We can make it quite humane too. Various science projects are looking for people whom they can send to Mars. So we put the above-mentioned population groups in a couple of rockets — financed by themselves, of course — and we shoot them toward the Red Planet.
Just think about it. No more inequality. No more wars. No more pollution. A major cleansing of the gene pool. And we've just sent a terraforming delegation to Mars. Everybody wins.
Totally, and will myself watch it all because the whole piece of toast may not have mold on it lol
oh sorry Aianawa, it just irritates me when its all a lie to belittle folks. its murder and something that a psychopath would want.
Originally posted by Aragorn
Well, we can always start the depopulation with the politicians, military commanders, religious leaders, bankers and multinational CEOs. That should sufficiently clean up the atmosphere and free up resources.
We can make it quite humane too. Various science projects are looking for people whom they can send to Mars. So we put the above-mentioned population groups in a couple of rockets — financed by themselves, of course — and we shoot them toward the Red Planet.
Just think about it. No more inequality. No more wars. No more pollution. A major cleansing of the gene pool. And we've just sent a terraforming delegation to Mars. Everybody wins.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
now that is a good idea..
I contend that the MSM's current drum beat on Global Warming is very much along this line. But everyone tends to divide up into two camps:
1) Global warming is real and caused by Carbon Dioxide: most of the Main Stream Press especially the "liberal" side
2) Global Warming is fake news, data is made up by Global Warming alarmists : Conservative MSN (Fox, etc)
I contend there is a 3rd point:
Global Warming is real, and caused by the Sun warming up. This comes from evidence presented by David Wilcock that you can verify yourself:
I observe the Sun daily at sunrise; the color has changed over just the last 2-3 years. I have photo evidence as well.
Sun was red at sunrise, it is now yellow.
It was yellow at zenith, it is now white.
Talk to anybody who work outside: roofers, landscapers, etc, they will all tell you that the sun seems to have gotten hotter and they can get more sunburns if not careful
.
4th point:
Global warming is the oppisite of the truth, we are headed into a cooling period
This causes more cosmic radiation to hit the atmosphere since the solar winds blast away less, and cosmic radiation causes cloud formation, which causes more extreme storms and eventually cooling and an ice age.
as for your sun burn anecdote, I experience the opposite. I'm in the Caribbean, I don't wear sun screen, don't need to... We run a horse rescue and guided horse tours in the USVI, my wife (as pale as me) rides horses for up to 10 hours in the Caribbean sun, never wears sunscreen and maybe gets a touch red at times, but never "burns".
So, hotter or colder?
Originally posted by Greenbarry
started to watch this but when it showed "we need to decrease the population" i shut it off! that is the biggest lie of all!
your absolutely right, 95% of world's population is concentrated on just 10% of world's land surface. While only 10% of the world's land is classified as remote or more than 48 hours from a large city.. so while we don't take up that much room we can " get to " a lot of it very easily which makes it seem like there's way less(because that's 10% of 1/3 of the planet..).
Here's the important part though:
3% of land surface is covered by urban areas according to GRUMP datasets combined with satellite images [1]. Satellite images helped land-use researchers at UW-Madison's Center for Sustainability and Global Environment to conclude that over 40% of earth's land is given over to agriculture [2]. So considering human inhabited land to be a combination of agricultural and urban areas, we have around 43% of earth's land surface covered by humans
40% to agriculture and we are using TERRIBLE methods for agriculture, some minor advancements there (vertical gardening anyone?) and we will free up massive tracts of land that can be allowed to run feral again.
As for our influence on this planet, I've run the numbers.
If you want me to paste them here I'll look for them but basically its this:
If all of the energy produced by humans were solely dedicated to raising the temperature of the oceans, we couldn't even manage .000000000000001% increase (not sure on how many zeros it was, a lot though).
started to watch this but when it showed "we need to decrease the population" i shut it off! that is the biggest lie of all!
So, I take it you quit listening to anyone when they mention anything you do not like? Kind of hard to dialog with you then. IMO, Nobody is 100% right or wrong, all are feeds of info with true bits and false bits. I use cross-correlation to raise a signal of "truer" bits out of the flood of info.
This guy is a hard core scientist and not quite onto the "ET thing" yet, BUT he has seen some sort of Earth-facing anomaly that is damping down the energy coming to the Earth from the Sun. If you research his site at:
You will find there is a lot of info he has that can tell us things especially about polar shift and the declining protective magnetic fields of the Earth.
I certainly don't agree with everything he says, but he has an amazing record on prediction 6+ earthquakes (70%+) and you can get an app on your phone to follow his forecasts.
I posted this particular video to show all the crazy data issues in the Global Warming and that he has seen the raising of temperature of other planets in the Solar System. Other videos at his site talks about the increase of Sun energy feeding storms and hurricanes. He is very much in the Sun is broadcasting more energy camp.
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Global Warming - Wasn't that an elite initiative to scam more taxes from the masses. Carbon Tax - I mean really???
As a person with fair sensitive skin, I can definitely state that the sun appears to be hotter than ever.Have been careful about direct exposure since about nineteen/twenty years of age. As for the sun being a different colour I can support that as well. The sun definitely appears to be changing - even in the day. When I was a Child the sun was an orange/yellowish hue but in recent years it certainly appears to be white.
As for decreasing the population - let those who want to depopulate lead by example - yes? There is ample space and water and food for everyone particularly when we share.
regarding the sunburn issue.....
-I have lived in the northern hemisphere for half a century and have noticed that i will burn quicker these days, for about the past 15 + years....
-have noticed a lensing effect where we are working outside all day ( clear day, no clouds) and at times the temp heats up noticeably much hotter for about 15-30 minutes with no noticeable changes in the sky..... like having a magnifying glass pass over head.... and noticed by my sons as well who would also get red the same rate of speed as me on uncovered parts so that rules out the possibility it might be an age related factor
perhaps it is the holes in the atmosphere/magnetic shielding issues....maybe the effects are less noticeable around the equator
could be the quality of the emissions of the sun which could indeed change.
pretty much everyone i have talked with for the past 15 years have also concurred with the sunburn issue being quicker and noted as an odd anomaly
pretty much everyone i have talked with for the past 15 years have also concurred with the sunburn issue being quicker and noted as an odd anomaly
its hard to make anicdote actually useful, those experiences could be from a variety of things, but I guarantee you the sun is not getting hotter. And global warming isn't happening.
The equator will be the first to notice real "global warming" since we have such static and predictable temperatures (Highs are 95 summer 85 winter on average) same with ocean levels and so much more.. the equator is the most "evened out" part of the planet climate wise.
my theory on my sun tolerance ( I used to burn in Alaska quite frequently, moved here 4 years ago from there) is due to atmospheric density (it's much denser at the middle of the planet IIRC).. which doesn't make a lot of sense since the ozone hole is much smaller.
The color change of the sun would support the atmosphere issue because that is what colors the sun (refraction via the atmosphere, in space the sun is bright white). But a "hotter sun" would still produce white light and have to be refracted through our atmosphere to change color.
Heading into an ice age will be very counter intuitive... the increased clouds will insulate and shift weather patterns bringing warm air to cool places (and visa versa) as we've seen this year (we had both record heat and record cold this winter), expect many more storms as well as disturb long set airflow patterns (I never read anything about ocean patterns, but they seem to be wacky now too). it will be very interesting weather wise...
My brother-in-law explained to me years ago one way an Ice Age could be triggered would be screwing up the water conveyors, i.e. the Gulf Stream.
Certainly odds are on an Ice Age, the question is when?
I tried to talk to my brother years ago about weather extremes of both heat and cold and other phenomena. 'Tried' being the operative word. He just simply doesn't believe in any climate change.
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