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[Amanda]

Okay - had some time to listen to the video link. Have been attending to important matters but - at this point in time - I have only managed to listen to the first ten minutes. I have some serious questions about his method of communication and 'exactly' what he states when speaking. Not everyone may like my comments but I will share my notes so far. Please know that I always respect other opinions and comments.


So... thus far...

The Speaker states very early on that: Narcissists are superior.

My thoughts: No they are not superior. No one is superior. No one person is superior to another - not ever.

To correctly understand the term narcissist and/or Narcissistic Personality Disorder this would be a more correct statement: Narcissists have a heightened sense of superiority. They think they are superior to others.

Have I made my comments easy to understand? Maybe it is due to my skills as an English Teacher, in view of the fact I listen to the spoken word critically along with the written word. I am also a survivor having been in a relationship (albeit unknowingly) with a person who is still an untreated Narcissist - for seven years. I am still suffering in some ways - when they work their ways they can create chaos and pain that beggars belief.

The Speaker states:Narcissists are damaged.

Yes they are and they rarely almost NEVER seek out help. There is an adage utilised by psychiatrists and psychologists and counsellors when it comes to Narcissistic Personality Disorder/ Narcissists and it goes like this; Narcissists are the bread and butter of psychiatrists/psychologists/counsellors not because the Narcissists seek out help but because of the trail of destruction they leave - they are remorseless and without empathy. Seldom do they seek out professional help - rare as hens teeth. The people they damage are the ones who seek out help. I know from first hand experience.

The Speaker mentions: Coming back.

We are already here. The Speaker is making an assumption about re-incarnation? What if the people in the audience don't believe in that concept? What if re-incarnation is a made up concept?


My initial personal general/literal thoughts were these: I wonder how much money this man made? How much did each person pay at the door for entry? I truly thought that his manner of speech within the first ten minutes was - how can I put this respectfully? - not quite right. I want to be very very very clear here - Narcissists DO NOT EVER become reformed. On an extremely rare occasion they may seek professional help. Psychiatric Nurses - several times, within personal conversations have informed me that they are referred to as: Emotional Vampires.

When I was learning about Narcissistic Personality Disorder the first thing that is taught in counselling is this: Break all contact. They will mirror back anything you say or do.

I cannot stress this enough - Narcissists are to be avoided. They cannot be 'reformed' unless they make the choice to admit they have a problem. So complex is the professional diagnosis that psychiatrists and psychologists will speak to partners (usually former) to family members and co-workers. Why is it so difficult to diagnose you may ask? Narcissists are pathological liars and even in a courtroom under oath - they can lie and they know they are lying. They are very difficult to catch out and have to be virtually cornered to be confronted with their own lies.

It is such an insidious issue that what the Speaker stated within the first ten minutes made me think - he is not fully informed.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is grouped with psychopathy. Psychopaths share some traits but it is an entirely different disorder. The shared traits are; Pathological Lying, No Remorse, No Empathy. This point I want to bring home - after diving in to learn all about this area as a Survivor - this is what to watch for so you don't get 'sucked in' to their fake world.

They are beautiful orators. They can stand on a stage and suck up all the attention and speak for hours. They don't have to have any true intention behind their words - they can speak clearly for hours. It is the attention they seek - due to their heightened sense of superiority they draw their energy from anyone who pays them attention.

From experience - at the end of seven years - I felt like a washed out dishcloth. I told my partner I was not well and I was going to go to my doctor and focus on my health as I could not understand why I was so fatigued, putting on weight et cetera. This is what happened: That is the moment he (unbeknowst to me - until much later) commenced an affair with a married co-worker. That is what they do. They are incapable of love and empathy. In a healthy relationship a proper healthy partner would have supported me and wanted me to get well. In short I was withdrawing my narcissistic supply - that is a proper term. They are incapable of loving or giving love. They recognise people who are sincere and capable of proper love and trust and quite simply they 'latch on' to that person.

My final thought in the form of a question: Is the Speaker actually a narcissist himself?

I am going to continue with my open and honest communication here. During that ten minutes - I had a strong emotional response. It was not a positive response. I will state clearly my comments do not mean I am right and others are wrong. I know I am safe here at The One Truth and can comment freely and that is all I am doing.

Much Respect & Much Peace - Amanda

NB: One more thought. It has been stated that 'New Age/Spiritual' themed businesses are actually a created business - think CIA Conspiracy Creative Thinking/Divergent Thinking/Psychology Department or the Tavistock Institute who have the same aforementioned departments as the CIA/Alphabet Agencies. Narcissists would be the first to jump on to that 'bandwagon' as it were. They would suck up the attention and make money at the same time - it would be an ideal opportunity for any narcissist - a dream come true for them - attention and money. Honest and well meaning people who start businesses that offer proper alternative healing and learning opportunities would be the ones who - in all likelihood would not be on stage. They offer what they do out of sincerity and work with the Universe not the fiscal based paradigm in which we live.

Aianawa - Probably not what you were expecting but I am being honest. I will listen to the entire video soon - of that you can be sure.

[Aianawa]

Very exciting , I value your opinion Amanda, like the way you evaluate and if you get all that from the first ten, my gosh, waiting with baited breath still lol, cheers

[Amanda]

Aianawa et al - Thank You. I was not sure my comments would be understood - from my perspective. I am sharing my comments and opinions from my life experience which does include my academic knowledge accompanied with personal knowledge.

Am up to about the fourty minute mark. I am now thinking along the lines of, perhaps, just perhaps he has read some psychology. All the comments about abandonment and abuse - to me - it all seemed to be based on psychology. Among my academic qualifications I have some basic psychology so I recognised terms and meta-language et cetera immediately ....

Another perspective is this: The section of his presentation where he has the audience laughing a lot. He is mentioning Intergalactic Visitors (my preferred meta-language) and how they would do a u-turn and not want to come to this ghetto - that section.

That entire section I have heard before - he has possibly 'lifted' that entire section from someone else. I will explain myself. Firstly - As soon as he started with that section I recognised the terms and the comedic value and keep in mind - I am referring to the exact comments. Secondly - The term 'lifted' is a part of the meta-language of professional comedians in Australia. I performed comedy during my first career as a performer. Most difficult of all my attempted creative performance abilities. I digress .... Essentially the term 'lifted' means that it is stolen or taken from another person and their act/performance.

Back on topic. This is science, as taught to me by my friends when I was performing comedy (attempting is probably a more correct term) years ago. My friends were so committed to their craft that they attended University lectures on the psychology of laughter/comedy and really delved into their performance development. Most of them are now quite well known and have achieved a lot of success and fame. My journey was different but they taught me a great deal.

Here is what I want to share from what my comedy friends taught me - the one aspect that can help people who are reading through the comments within this thread. When the Speaker in the video link was making the audience laugh - he was utilising a psychological control mechanism. Yes people - he was actively and quite possibly in full control of the audience knowingly and quite possibly not for the intentions/knowledge for which the audience members had paid their money.

I will explain as succinctly as possible. Have you ever noticed that an orator/public speaker/whatever will come out on stage and start with: A funny thing happened to me on the way here tonight... here in (insert name of location) ... and they commence with a funny story/anecdote/joke/whatever? That is science at work. It is the art of manipulating Humans. It is a control mechanism - a psychological control mechanism.

Obviously my comedic friends were honing their skills for their performing careers but others - on stage/television presenters/whatever - utilise the control technique for other purposes. Simply this is what happens: The Human brain is receptive to the joke/funny story and the Human laughs. The Human brain relaxes and is in a state where information and evidence becomes highly receptive. In other words when a Human laughs it means their neural pathways open up and accept the information. Is that easy to understand?????


So I am still not comfortable with the Speaker within the video link and am unsure of his true intentions. I will support my concerns with regard to an aspect of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They can read something once or be shown a skill - think workplace training et cetera. They may not necessarily have what is called in simple terms a 'photographic memory' but they can pick up information quickly. They can recite but not necessarily have any emotion or depth of critical thinking - when sharing information and/or evidence.

I will utilise a personal example to help people understand my above comments. When I was performing I recall some performances where I touched people on an emotional level and quite simply they were crying when I sang a particular song. When I first learn a song I am concentrating on remembering the lyrics and essentially getting it right. Once I have performed the song several times - I can then start to let go and fill the song with emotion et cetera. That is a normal healthy process however narcissists can do that straight away. They can cry on cue - no redness on their skin - no dripping nose - tears off and on like a tap. Me - I get upset and cry and I look disgusting.

Again I digress .... It appears to me that he may be one of those people who have jumped on the bandwagon as it were. Gaining not only attention but money as well - that is a narcissistic dream come true. This is why they are so difficult to recognise unless you know the 'red flags' - that is the term that is sometimes utilised among the meta-language of counsellors. They - the narcissist can orate beautifully and clearly - they can recite information from memory without notes - they can utilise psychological proven control techniques and here is the most difficult part to understand - they know what they are doing and if you confront them and ask them about the authenticity of what they are doing - they can lie without flinching. They can pass lie detectors with ease. They can stand there and look you in the eye and lie.

I will share something personal now as an example. When my ex-partner was having the affair - while I was trying to focus on my health. I started to suspect and as always I was the last one to know. The husband of the woman - with whom my ex was having the affair - called me at home via my silent/unlisted landline phone. He told me that his wife and my husband were having an affair - he thought I deserved to know.

To cut to the chase. When my ex came home I stood in front of him and I asked him if he was having an affair with (insert name here)? He denied it completely. I then mentioned the contents of the phone call. He had nowhere to go. There is a mantra of people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder - when confronted: Deny Deny Deny - Lie Lie Lie - Cry Cry Cry. That is what they do.


So - back on topic. I suspect that the Speaker is making a lot of money but not really with sincere intentions of helping people. I think he may be seizing an opportunity to 'latch on to' people who are seeking answers. My personal thoughts are these: When people start to enter the Awakened State, they need to talk about what they are experiencing? They need to know that there are other people with questions, just like them? They need to know they are not alone? Attending seminars and social functions where they want to learn more - well that is a minefield of epic proportions? The new age, spiritual themed topics have opened up a gazillion opportunities for deceivers to make money off sincere people?


Keep learning people - keep asking questions. I hope that my posts within this thread are of assistance. Even if only one person is helped - then I am okay with that and if people don't like what I post - they can see my profile/name and give me the 'big miss' and move on.

Much Respect & Much Peace - Amanda


NB: The difference between a non narcissistic person and a narcissist is this: They will never acknowledge learning from another person. My comments above include who helped me learn - a narcissist will never do that - their elevated sense of superiority will not allow them to acknowledge their Teacher. A person who comes under the auspices of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, whether diagnosed or not - cannot synthesize information and evidence during any learning phase. The rest of us can accept information/evidence and then digest it - not unlike eating food and then digesting it - knowledge comes about in the same way only via the Human brain. What's that old adage: Food for thought? Brainfood? I sincerely hope that this post is helpful.

[Maggie]

Thanks for your posts Amanda.

The times I have listened to Matt Kahn, my take away is that there are sensitive souls who don't need the same kind of lessons that narcissistic characters need. That's it.

Exactly what we as sensitive souls need? A BIGGIE IMO is a deep connection with Source to strengthen us. That sense is hard for the sensitive soul to allow paradoxically. But we can work towards the connection by using OUR lessons. I think he indicates that being un fooled by narcissists is a self loving act?

Compassion is not wimpy but stead fast in self respect. It is so SELF respectable to forgive, to love and to honor. The antidote to narcissm is by being unmanipulatable and strong. It's a way to see narcissist without cringing from their behavior. "Just how Lordy is THAT Lord, The Lordiest Lord of all Lordy Lords maybe?"

We need to build ourselves up in authentic ways so we can feel what is ours and YES, feel others but not be taken in. It is hard to allow full FEELING and IMO we need help... from our own higher Self. What if you are just so numb and disconnected form yourself and can't feel connected? Is that how narcissists get warped (reversal of empathy?)

Maybe trauma did the damage. But we have to get the reconnection to blossom IMO. I THINK that is what Matt Kahn is trying to energetically convey.
We can play act about the feeling of Source...recall being in love, feel the pain of longing, feel the people we have loved loving us....
There is the need to self direct much tenderness and cherishing. We must honor our sensitivity because it wasn't honored. We have to remain open to bloom.

Good news to me: IMO we will each make our own reconnection (or surrender?) when the timing is perfect. IMO people like Matt Kahn are not pigeon hole-able for me... as I like him and dislike him and he is not guru but "Gee you are you" on target for me sometimes.

To me Matt Kahn has a very weird look to his expression. He seems puffed up, (Roll eyes here) kind of like that 'weird uncle" who sometimes makes me laugh and sometimes says something neat. But he has a supercilious air of self importance that makes him funny as an object of irony. I am not at all integrated. I sometimes feel simply god smacked by my own superciliousness. I do still feel I need improvement BUT use this impulse to redouble sending myself love. A narcissist still lurks in my shadow whom I see and who can be snarky!!. Also I "see" and love the sensitive soul I feel in me who wants to shine just because.

Maybe many of us have the dual empath (connected) /narcissist (disconnected) inner struggle? Love thyself first and avoid the rush (paraphrased form Ashleigh Brilliant, a wit).

[Amanda]

Maggie - Understand your words perfectly. Good for you - you are inspecting your self and learning. The adage about self love - which is the essence of all Narcissists - is that people can become too involved with loving themselves. While I understand what you state that is my only issue with it - in its Literal form.

I was taught this adage: Love is what you give. The part of Love that you keep for yourself is Self Respect. I like to share it as it has helped me to stay away from becoming too self absorbed as I have seen the self love aspect get taken far too seriously by some people.

Much Respect & Much Peace - Amanda

[Maggie]

Just feeling into what you are sharing, and yes, giving love is what we do or maybe trying to with hold it becoming a shell. The way I sense is is that love comes to us and when we start feeling it, the rest is oh so easy. It is so much more exciting to be in love where you have an easy time with trust. IMO it happens just naturally to let go of burdens of fauxness.

We can learn to let ourselves feel the love. It is that sentient energy that moves all in its vast embrace yet knows me.

YES, we need to OFFER our open door to love and let it out. Our love will flow to us through us, through giving love. Through flow of love, accessing the flows of love we are made real basking devotees of love. The mask and shadow just are not necessary.
What is seen in the all pervasive warmth and clarity of love/ light makes perfect sense.....

My love comes in to my heart from where I came, and it goes to where it will. Love asks to Pass and go through MY open doors.... In and out and In and out and all about.... the door is open.... the light floods and the love flows. It flows "somewhere" and there is a pause perhaps? For a bit love might seem gone away from me as I am not feeling the moment. Don't panic! "DON"T CLOSE THE DOOR to try to keep love in" is what I hear.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxyqhyhSEXc

"Love Itself"

The light came through the window,
Straight from the sun above,
And so inside my little room
There plunged the rays of Love.

In streams of light I clearly saw
The dust you seldom see,
Out of which the Nameless makes
A Name for one like me.

I’ll try to say a little more:
Love went on and on
Until it reached an open door –
Then Love Itself
Love Itself was gone.

All busy in the sunlight
The flecks did float and dance,
And I was tumbled up with them
In formless circumstance.

I’ll try to say a little more:
Love went on and on
Until it reached an open door –
Then Love Itself
Love Itself was gone.

Then I came back from where I’d been.
My room, it looked the same –
But there was nothing left between
The Nameless and the Name.

All busy in the sunlight
The flecks did float and dance,
And I was tumbled up with them
In formless circumstance.

I’ll try to say a little more:
Love went on and on
Until it reached an open door –
Then Love itself,
Love Itself was gone.
Love Itself was gone.

[Aianawa]

Omg you girls go deep, thankyou

[Amanda]

Aianawa et al - I can lighten up if you want. Still a bit busy but I will listen to the rest of the presentation. Maggie et al - The most incredible part of being a Teacher is seeing a Student making progress, getting a concept, breaking through and realising the meaning of what is being taught et cetera. I have to contain my excitement and limit myself to words of encouragement - when what I really want to do is 'throw a party' because I feel so good for them. I usually share my real excitement with the parents/carers and they understand why.

Much Respect - Amanda

[Aianawa]

Totally understand that Amanda, totally.

[Amanda]

Aianawa - I tried so hard to listen to the rest of the presentation. I really did try to keep my word and listen to the presentation in its entirety but I could not. Picked up from about the fourty minute mark and he kept on about the narcissism aspect. Truly - not relying on my academic knowledge or even my personal life experience but relying on my instincts - I could not listen to him. Had a strong emotional response and not of the positive type.

Want to add that on the worldwideweb some people, for the sake of this communication we shall call them, 'internet personalities' have garnered huge followings. Sometime later members of the huge following ascertain rather unpleasant details about the 'internet personality' and their reputation comes undone. With regard to some of the 'internet personalities' I have had an instinctive emotional reaction to them and what they (purport) to represent. Don't assume that I have not made mistakes and trusted people via the internet that I should never have trusted - I am guilty of that and those lessons were meant for me.

I want to add that some of the 'internet personalities' discussed here and elsewhere - have never attracted me to their personal opinions/comments/videos/words. My instincts have always served me well. I don't normally share private information online but to bring home the point I am trying to make: I was born an orphan, got adopted and that world fell apart very quickly. I have literally raised myself and never had a home to run home to when my life unravelled. At certain times in my life I have had NO OTHER option but to work through the situation and utilise my INSTINCTS. Sometimes that was all I had and it serves me well. When I ignore my instincts I invariably end up learning a difficult lesson.

Just to lighten the tone of my post - what are those funny lines used by people when they watch a rubbish video via the internet or the beam ray technology? Well, that's (insert time frame) I will never get back. (Grinning - got to keep your sense of humour. It actually helps the Human Parasympathetic System to stay healthy.)

Thanks for the opportunity to participate in such a thought provoking thread.

Much Respect & Much Peace - Amanda

[Aianawa]

Exceptional imo Amanda, proves for me that one will always find what they need, very thankfullll for you taking the time to view and give your feelings on vid.

[Catsquotl]

Getting there. Karma is a topic that I have thought about and worked with a lot. Now if only I could get through the video.
Could stomach only 9 minutes on the first try.. Will try again soon.

With Love
Eelco

[Aianawa]

Crickey, changing my perception upon others perceptions allowing me to process maybe unknown knots, will be viewing this vid again and try to be more discerning for myself and remain open, gee you also had a tough first ten minutes ?

[Catsquotl]

, gee you also had a tough first ten minutes ?

Yes, but that comes from personal preferences and assumptions or lack thereof in this case. So it shouldn't affect what you took away from it.

basicaly the dichotomy between narcisism and service to others is a bit too narrow in my view. Which had me closing the video for now. Need to open up a bit to that a bit first.

With love
Eelco

[Aianawa]

Oh, gotcha, all bout being open-discerning-knowing ones unknown timeline changers ( fears, knots, pain , baggage etc )