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    I've changed my opinion..... This young man is moving from "uninformed" and "weak research" to "dangerously supporting falsehood"

    Maybe I'll give a bit more thought to the "co-op" thoughts on him..


    @ 14:55 he says "I am on a path" and sort of 'unconsciously' underlines "save us".... very telling imo.. this guy is wearing the mantel of the savior archetype and is clueless to its influence.



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    The Savior archetype takes hold of people who are naturally inclined to be caretakers. The Savior is overflowing with a desire to be helpful and always reliable in a crisis. Saviors frequently express their sympathy for those in distress and often become over-involved in the lives of others. Saviors define themselves through their philanthropic pursuits and believe their hearts to be guided only by noble intentions. Saviors do not want credit for their selfless behavior because their acts of benevolence infuse them with a sense of fulfillment that far surpasses their need for credit. They burrow into the needs and issues of their friends and family and usually neglect their own lives. They often arrest or abandon their own psychological and emotional growth in order to fully be available on the front lines of those they love. This is an avoidance technique that arises from the unconscious to protect them from having to address unresolved trauma held within the depths of their own psyche. Saviors are usually burdened with unattended wounds from the past that are buried deeply. It’s easier to focus attention on the lives of those surrounding them than it is to face the paralyzing fear of addressing the old pain. Saviors may be wonderfully supportive parents, partners, and friends, but they suffer when they are alone. Saviors are codependent by nature and cannot find happiness through their own merits. It is only through their relationships with others that they find some semblance of joy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TargeT View Post
    I've changed my opinion..... This young man is moving from "uninformed" and "weak research" to "dangerously supporting falsehood"

    Maybe I'll give a bit more thought to the "co-op" thoughts on him..


    @ 14:55 he says "I am on a path" and sort of 'unconsciously' underlines "save us".... very telling imo.. this guy is wearing the mantel of the savior archetype and is clueless to its influence.
    I enjoyed the first one or two videos by this youtuber. Weirdly both this person and also another person "Lionel' in HIS way have soured for me. There is SOMETHING energetically "rightous" and dogmatic and also self important all at once that coagulates around those/ about those who are going to inform of THE TRUTH. That can also be said of the ones they are supporting or in criticism concerning.

    The path to hell is paved with good intentions.

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    The path to hell is paved with good intentions.
    Oh Maggie has that one been going through my head in recent days. Someone I know has been busily paving such a path for a long time now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie View Post
    There is SOMETHING energetically "rightous" and dogmatic and also self important all at once that coagulates around those/ about those who are going to inform of THE TRUTH.
    I felt that too from the very first video, but I honestly thought it was some sort of jealousy or envy on my part (though even then, I'm not sure why.. maybe because I just started making videos again) anyway I wrote it off as some ego bull shit and ignored it..

    But then I started analyzing his presentations and it's nothing more than a "silver tongued" conman.. he speaks fast and eloquently but in a very shallow manor regurgitating "page one" information while ignoring the depths of the topic and now is encouraging people in bad faith, with bad information, and it feels like he's "making videos to make videos" like it's a job, a job he enjoys to be sure; but still a job.
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    It's just business.

    I was unimpressed by his dismissal of scientists' concerns. They span many issues, not just climate ones. Science for profit is not the best kind, not even close.

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    'The path to hell is paved with good intentions.'

    David Wilcock and a few others have pointed out that Hell is a crowd control concept invented by the Egyptians...and then, in my research, promoted by the Romans once they took over from Cleopatra through their inventing Christianity and eliminating several relevant Jewish Bible books (Book of Enoch, Book of Giants among others) thus targeting and negating reincarnation by the Councils of Nicaea.
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    I like Jordan Sather because he:

    - brings up ideas and info resources more quickly than I
    - often has a differing slant than my math/science/evidence based approach with his "dot connecting"
    - tends to resonate with the "younger crowd"
    - seems to be effective in reaching people and getting them to consider new ideas

    What bothers me a bit:

    - he tends to be sketchy or just plain wrong on how the science/math/logic works perhaps because he dumps out a quickly done video perhaps too often

    So I see him as a good info source and I tend to always watch his vids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    'The path to hell is paved with good intentions.'

    David Wilcock and a few others have pointed out that Hell is a crowd control concept invented by the Egyptians...and then, in my research, promoted by the Romans once they took over from Cleopatra through their inventing Christianity and eliminating several relevant Jewish Bible books (Book of Enoch, Book of Giants among others) thus targeting and negating reincarnation by the Councils of Nicaea.
    It is also metaphoric such that "hell' is that very place one does not suspect or seem to choose and yet is the destination we are moving towards. This "undesired" is paved with seemingly useful intentions that we THINK are for good but actually lead us very astray.

    Example
    1. Ultimate Transhumanism that seems to be a good idea when attempting to "improve" us and solve "problems".

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    I believe in the invention of hell. It's a powerful one. It's going strong. People get trapped in hell by their own fears, imo.

    There is someone close to me who would hear something in confidence, promise to keep it quiet, but then later on break that promise and talk about someones private business to someone else, breaking trust and confidence.

    The intentions were always good. This person was just trying to help. And the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The result was bad.

    Damage to relationships, breakdown of trust and confidence, loss of respect for judgement.

    Ends don't justify means. Neither do intents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Ends don't justify means. Neither do intents.
    This is really the crux of much in this thread and the exposure of the "means" and I am really not sure about the intentions either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie View Post
    This is really the crux of much in this thread and the exposure of the "means" and I am really not sure about the intentions either.
    yes... in that Light I posted this on PA

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    Hold on a second...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Ryan View Post
    She used the platform to make herself try to sound good,
    But so did you, you leaned heavily on the fact that you are an experienced researcher and you and those like you had something to offer to new researchers to the field, that discernment is hard and you know how to do it and that's why your exposing Corey, but that is sort of disingenuous with out mentioning Serpo, Charles, Inelia, Shane the Ruiner etc...

    I feel like you omitted a few things as well during your interview, things I feel are extremely important... If you are to be held up as the pinnacle of valid research, then at least admit that there ARE pitfalls that are very difficult to avoid, even for you.


    These are humans we are dealing with here, no one is perfect, we all miss things at times & I think it's important to let that be known.. it's OK to make a mistake, the mistake doesn't define you, how you deal with it does.
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    Ok, you convinced me. Good intentions are "Evil".

    From now on I'm doing BAD intentions, since good = bad, bad must be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TargeT View Post
    yes... in that Light I posted this on PA

    My apologies for ever referring to you as a possible BR minion/troll ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumpster Diver View Post
    Ok, you convinced me. Good intentions are "Evil".

    From now on I'm doing BAD intentions, since good = bad, bad must be good.


    Quote Originally Posted by giovonni View Post

    My apologies for ever referring you as a BR minion/troll ...
    I don't remember you doing that, so no harm no foul


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    I feel like you omitted a few things as well during your interview
    Talk to Daniel!

    Our initial recording lasted for 4 hours 20 mins, with a little more later that was inserted into the final cut. I talked about everything you might think of.

    He did the editing. It was not a live show.
    (and this ^^ was edited)

    Hard to fault him here, "Dark Journalist" was obviously tossing out softball questions and looking to frame this as a one sided conversation. So this seems like a reasonable response, or a very clever dodge.. we'll never know.
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    IMO

    Out of courtesy, Bill should of talked to Randy first ...
    Perhaps even with Christine included ...
    The Dark Journalist could of waited for sloppy seconds.

    It's all become about showcasing and showmanship ...
    Donations, newsletters and subscriptions ...


    Here's what i think of the current UFO Circus ...

    'Contact In The Desert'

    Note: this even includes individuals participating I've called friends.



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