My friend Maggie posted this in another thread, I think it goes great with this one :
Originally posted by Maggie
hey Phil
You reference a person who acts out victim scenarios. It is very difficult to be in a close relationship with people who are push you, pull you dramatists.
The thing about victimization as a concept is as excuse to accept "help". I identify with the kernal of victim mindedness...one NEEDS so much and is deprived. People GET the support by being someone we can pity and help. They get second hand juice of Source through the helpers. But in the social milieu, this works to a certain extent as so many OTHERS need to be Saving to get THEIR juice from Source.
I think there is a possibility that I did not expect before...maybe the triad of victim, Savior and the needed Persecutors is just a shallow blah blah of connecting.
A theme that is in contrats to the triad is one I see around but worded many ways says...seek ye first the Kingdom of God and all will be added...THAT rocks.
That rocks because I think as You may be thinking...suffering is self imposed and just a drama. But we cannot have this freedom until we are diorectly Juiced from Source. How do we RECEIVE SOURCE? The greatest easy way is learn to relax. Justy by loosening up all the kinks, we can tap into the energy for no reason at all, JUST BE CAUSE we are MEANT to be in the flow of the energy that CREATES all "worlds"...
To choose freedom of the ideal of real love that we always HAVE and can extend endlessly is not draining because it is to be in the flow of Source. Yes, it can even help in the triad. People can still be halfway sourced and in with some energy.....mostly it is being traded around between characters acting out drama so "tired" energy. I think everyone is living just fine for what they are expecting. The fun part is upgrading and losing suffering.
Everyone does get something to live on in the degraded energy scene. The victim gets the trickle down of saints illumination. The Savior gets the tickle of touching madness, as insanity in proximity meets a desire. The Persecutor draws on the whirlwind of evil which is entropy and death. Players can even trade places.
Yours is not a necessarily and entrapped Theirs when YOU decide how to give and receive the energy of All.
IMO it is far from suffering to be alive in the Kingdom of "God" (name matters not) which is closer than our breathing.
Best for all who seek. Who cares if seeking is not finding because we have to do something around here to make time. Also, we choose to live in Community which is where all the great trimphs and challenges of relating bring pleasure or pain. IMO we could really interact in sharing pleasure IF we live in the kingdom of Love.
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cultural values in pain avoidance strategies seem to be unspoken for the most part, yet figure very large in human experience..... like avoiding punishment ...it wasn't me...he did it, she made me do it, blah blah....etc....
happens on pretty much every level too....even eating, sweets are given as treats, or used as bribes... when sour and bitter are typically healthful they are avoided almost universally by children and this is endorsed by most adults who keep buying the sweet crap for kids to use to develop their addictive personality disorders.... weird culture.
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It occurs to me that my perception is one from which I have had very little trauma, or even loss--I can count on one hand relatives who have died, none super close except my (old) grandmother when I was 9, and one close friend...none unexpected
How easy for me to be emotionally detached with very little first world problems. In fact, it may be telling that all my intense trauma has come from the bipolar love interests I've attracted in my life.
I'm coming to terms with my "rescuer" syndrome, which I am finding goes hand in hand with the savior paradigm.
I guess I explore this here in hopes of feedback, as I have very little experiential data to go on