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    1.8 million-year-old skull is making researchers rethink what we thought we knew

    This 1.8 million-year-old skull is making researchers rethink what we thought we knew about early humans
    DMANISI, Georgia (AP) — The discovery of a 1.8-million-year-old skull of a human ancestor buried under a medieval Georgian village provides a vivid picture of early evolution and indicates our family tree may have fewer branches than some believe, scientists say.
    The fossil is the most complete pre-human skull uncovered. With other partial remains previously found at the rural site, it gives researchers the earliest evidence of human ancestors moving out of Africa and spreading north to the rest of the world, according to a study published Thursday in the journal Science.

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    This photo taken Oct. 2, 2013, in Tbilisi, Georgia, shows a pre-human skull, that was found in 2005 in the ground at the medieval village Dmanisi, Georgia. The discovery of the 1.8 million-year-old human ancestor captures early human evolution on the move in a vivid snapshot and indicates our family tree may have fewer branches than originally thought, scientists say. Credit: AP
    The skull and other remains offer a glimpse of a population of pre-humans of various sizes living at the same time – something that scientists had not seen before for such an ancient era. This diversity bolsters one of two competing theories about the way our early ancestors evolved, spreading out more like a tree than a bush.
    Nearly all of the previous pre-human discoveries have been fragmented bones, scattered over time and locations – like a smattering of random tweets of our evolutionary history. The findings at Dmanisi are more complete, weaving more of a short story. Before the site was found, the movement from Africa was put at about 1 million years ago.
    When examined with the earlier Georgian finds, the skull “shows that this special immigration out of Africa happened much earlier than we thought and a much more primitive group did it,” said study lead author David Lordkipanidze, director of the Georgia National Museum. “This is important to understanding human evolution.”
    For years, some scientists have said humans evolved from only one or two species, much like a tree branches out from a trunk, while others say the process was more like a bush with several offshoots that went nowhere.
    Even bush-favoring scientists say these findings show one single species nearly 2 million years ago at the former Soviet republic site. But they disagree that the same conclusion can be said for bones found elsewhere, such as Africa. However, Lordkipanidze and colleagues point out that the skulls found in Georgia are different sizes but are considered to be the same species. So, they reason, it’s likely the various skulls found in different places and times in Africa may not be different species, but variations in one species.
    To see how a species can vary, just look in the mirror, they said.

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    “Danny DeVito, Michael Jordan and Shaquille O’Neal are the same species,” Lordkipanidze said.
    The adult male skull found wasn’t from our species, Homo sapiens. It was from an ancestral species – in the same genus or class called Homo – that led to modern humans. Scientists say the Dmanisi population is likely an early part of our long-lived primary ancestral species, Homo erectus.
    Tim White of the University of California, Berkeley, wasn’t part of the study but praised it as “the first good evidence of what these expanding hominids looked like and what they were doing.”
    Fred Spoor at the Max Planck Institute in Germany, a competitor and proponent of a busy family tree with many species disagreed with the study’s overall conclusion, but he lauded the Georgia skull discovery as critical and even beautiful.
    “It really shows the process of evolution in action,” he said.
    Spoor said it seems to have captured a crucial point in the evolutionary process where our ancestors transitioned from Homo habilis to Homo erectus – although the study authors said that depiction is going a bit too far.
    The researchers found the first part of the skull, a large jaw, below a medieval fortress in 2000. Five years later – on Lordkipanidze’s 42nd birthday – they unearthed the well-preserved skull, gingerly extracted it, putting it into a cloth-lined case and popped champagne. It matched the jaw perfectly. They were probably separated when our ancestor lost a fight with a hungry carnivore, which pulled apart his skull and jaw bones, Lordkipanidze said.
    The skull was from an adult male just shy of 5 feet (1.5 meters) with a massive jaw and big teeth, but a small brain, implying limited thinking capability, said study co-author Marcia Ponce de Leon of the University of Zurich. It also seems to be the point where legs are getting longer, for walking upright, and smaller hips, she said.
    “This is a strange combination of features that we didn’t know before in early Homo,” Ponce de Leon said.


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    Sadly the african myth is just that. Man has come out of Australia. The links are there if one has the eyes to see, ears to hear, and a mind to remember. The cabalists have been fabricating facts for centuries. Any attempt up until now to get the truth out into the awareness of human beings has been a near impossible task. Our aboriginal people have stories going back millions of years when the 1st life came here to the earth and in particular Australia. Look in google for the Gosford Glyphs. See for yourself what a silent minority has been keeping safe for us to this day. They say the pleiadians brought life here.
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    Quote Originally posted by Wolf Khan View Post
    Sadly the african myth is just that. Man has come out of Australia. The links are there if one has the eyes to see, ears to hear, and a mind to remember. The cabalists have been fabricating facts for centuries. Any attempt up until now to get the truth out into the awareness of human beings has been a near impossible task. Our aboriginal people have stories going back millions of years when the 1st life came here to the earth and in particular Australia. Look in google for the Gosford Glyphs. See for yourself what a silent minority has been keeping safe for us to this day. They say the pleiadians brought life here.

    Apparently the Gosford Glyphs were found to be a recent hoax......?

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    Yep after the truth comes out the cabal work to discredit anyone and anything that has truth. We must stop believing in lies, there are lies at every level and no one knows the truth. Why ....there is no truth for them. they only (believe in) their reality nothing else matters.

    The gosford glyphs were started by aboriginal people they do not lie. They have no reason too. The white man lies and deceives every one and we all give the cabal our consent to exist. We all believe in lies and no one stops lying until it gets personal. This is how they are doing what they do, we all need to believe in something and this makes us easy marks for darkness to rule us. It cant rule me and it never will. I once thought this was a good world, see, I was wrong. The cabal think they own it and us. By the Gods, wait until our hammer falls. Then the dark will see the light as it turns them into Ash.
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    Watch Steven Strong's video on this and his interviews with Lisa Harrison. They have done a lot to discredit the Gosford Glyphs but they weren't very good at it. They are the real McCoy!

    http://www.valeriebarrow.com/jehanne...rd-glyphs.html
    http://www.lisamharrison.com/2012/10...osford-glyphs/
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    Thanks for putting this up shamanseeker, there has been an attempt to screw with these sites but they failed ...The truth will out.
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    Quote Originally posted by shamanseeker View Post
    Watch Steven Strong's video on this and his interviews with Lisa Harrison. They have done a lot to discredit the Gosford Glyphs but they weren't very good at it. They are the real McCoy!

    http://www.valeriebarrow.com/jehanne...rd-glyphs.html
    http://www.lisamharrison.com/2012/10...osford-glyphs/
    Double blessings upon you shamanseeker, we had not seen the latest information. Stephen strong puts up a very good argument, because he is not only well versed in proto- Egyptian, but has spent a large amount of time with the aboriginal story tellers who are willing to give there own knowledge to us on this part of our life history, they can have no vested interest in this for themselves, and there tutelage in story telling takes a very long time to be developed, they have to know it perfectly, so that it can be passed on to the next generation. Let us hope there is someone ready to learn, so it can be passed down. They have a very long history to retain.

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