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    I noticed in our main stream media today a report on the Oscars - Oscars: What's the deal with the blue ribbons?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-2...ibbons/8306442


    Best Actress nominee Ruth Negga, Hamilton creator Lin-Manuel Miranda and supermodel Karlie Kloss are among the stars who have sported blue ribbons while walking the red carpet at the Oscars.

    It's actually a low-key political statement. Here's what you need to know about it.

    What do the ribbons mean?

    They're in support of a campaign by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

    According to its own website, the ACLU "works in the courts, legislatures and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to all people in this country by the constitution and laws of the United States".

    Significantly, there's one person the ACLU has had in its sights of late: US President Donald Trump.

    Interesting, I wonder who is behind the ACLU? I haven't had time to check but I can make a guess.

    It gets more interesting in the rest of the article, particulalry the large amounts of money that has suddenly been poured in by "supporters".
    OK. Why Donald Trump though?

    The ACLU has taken significant issue with many of President Trump's actions since he took office.

    From his immigration order: (you'll have to click on the link to see the images)

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    To his comments about the American press:

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    There hasn't been a lot Mr Trump has done that the ACLU has agreed with.

    It's become the organisation and voice for many who oppose the Trump administration.

    Supporters have been putting their money where their mouth is, pouring a whopping $US24 million in online donations into the ACLU coffers since Donald Trump announced his executive order on immigration, according to the New York Times.

    For context, the ACLU raised $US3.5 million in the entirety of 2015.


    OK. So blue ribbons mean ACLU support?

    And a low-key Donald Trump protest.

    It's not likely to be the last protest we see at these awards either.
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    There is also a petition I have seen being put out for the removal of Trump on change.org - really pushing the alliance/conspiracy with Russia theme.

    A Petition for:

    The legal removal of The President & Vice President, et al., for Misprision of Treason
    Regarding known and recorded activities of:

    D.J. Trump Sr., M. Pence, S. Bannon, P. Manafort, C. Page, Gen. M. Flynn, R. Stone, R. Tillerson, S. Miller, S. Mnuchin, J.C. Kushner, J. Kushner, R. Giuliani, J. Comey, M. McConnell, P. Ryan, J. Chaffetz, B. Epshteyn, J. Sessions, K. Conway, S. Spicer, R.L. Mercer, R. Mercer, D. Mercer, C. Koch, D. Koch, K. Rove, W. Deng Murdoch, A. Scaramucci, C. Lewandowski, D.J. Trump Jr., E. Trump, I.M. Trump, I.M. Trump, M.K. Trump, John & Jane Doe; et. al. (1-100)
    That the above parties having had certain knowledge of relationships of one Donald John Trump with numerous Russian oligarchs and one Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, a former high ranking KGB officer, who is the current President of the Russian Federation, (a nation that has clearly positioned itself as the foremost geopolitical and military enemy of the United States, NATO and EU); did not find patriotic merit in informing any US authorities of the 'clear and present US national security threat danger' posed when said individual Donald John Trump ran for President of the United States, are thus guilty of :

    18 U.S. Code § 2382 "Misprision of Treason"

    "Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both."
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    Its is therefore our desire that the above individuals as named above, be charged, brought to swift trial, impeached, if guilty, punished according to all applicable US statutes, and prevented from holding any further US public office, forever.
    So that the nightmare of having traitors to our nation, in charge of our nation's affairs and our nuclear deterrent forces, might be swiftly rectified, we additionally request that Clinton / Kaine be simply declared the overall victors of the 2016 popular count election and installed immediately.

    The Clinton / Kaine overwhelming popular vote majority of 2.9 million (65,844,954 (48.2%) to 62,979,879 (46.1%) was an overwhelming majority and must be respected as such, so that rational, sane, secure, continuity of government might prevail even as the current emergency is simultaneously resolved.

    VERIFIABLE FACTS:
    The head of NSA, Admiral Michael Rogers, said that there shouldn’t be “any doubt in anybody’s mind” that another country tampered with the U.S. election.
    During the election time period, ODNI publicly revealed that elements of Russian intelligence agencies, namely GRU, (Main Intelligence Agency of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation / Гла́вное разве́дывательное управле́ние), had covert interest in the US Presidential campaign of Donald John Trump. The most sensitive activity of the GRU is gathering intelligence on American leaders.

    Furthermore it was known by the above individuals that Donald John Trump's main advisor, one Paul Manafort, had previously worked extensively on behalf of Putin's ally, pro-Russian Ukrainian dictator Yanukovych between 2007 and 2012. For those services, Manafort received $12.7 million in cash payments from Yanukovych’s political party.

    It was also known by the above individuals that General Michael T. Flynn, was the personal dinner guest of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin in Moscow. General Michael T. Flynn was the person selected by Donald John Trump to be National Security Advisor.

    Subsequently, the Democratic National Committee was cyber-attacked by parties connected to the Russian state security service GRU, who stole US emails (in violation of US laws) who then forwarded doctored versions to Julian Assange's WikiLeaks in Europe; as part of a GRU intelligence campaign of 'Active Measures' (активные мероприятия) to spread disinformation among the US voting electorate, to help Donald John Trump during the 2016 US presidential election.
    During that same time period, computer experts determined that there were continuous, covert, computer communications via KGB founded Russian Alfa Bank and Donald John Trump's campaign.
    On 29 December 2016, the White House sanctioned the GRU and the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation known as FSB, (Федеральная служба безопасности Российской Федерации - ФСБ) for alleged tampering and disinformation during the 2016 US presidential election.

    In addition, the Department of State also declared 35 Russian diplomats persona non grata and denied Russian diplomatic staff access to two Russian government-owned compounds in Maryland and New York.
    The White House also sanctioned several GRU officials including GRU Chief Igor Valentinovich Korobov, Deputy Chief Sergey Aleksandrovich Gizunov, and First Deputy Chiefs Igor Olegovich Kostyukov and Vladimir Stepanovich Alexseyev.
    On that same day, December 29, 2016, during the Obama administration, Flynn spoke personally with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, the very same day the Obama administration announced retaliatory measures in response to Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential campaign; if there was intent to interfere with or defeat said measures, this clearly constitutes a felony violation under the Logan act. Trump's incoming press secretary, Sean Spicer, said he doubted that Flynn and Kislyak discussed the retaliatory measures.

    The Wall Street Journal reported on January 22, 2017, that Flynn was under investigation by U.S. counterintelligence agents for his numerous communications with Russian officials. On February 9, 2017, U.S. intelligence officials shared an account of Flynn's interactions with Kislyak, which indicated that he did discuss the sanctions placed on Russia by the Obama administration, and Flynn's spokesman released a statement that Flynn “indicated that while he had no recollection of discussing sanctions, he couldn’t be certain that the topic never came up.”

    It is now further proven by US intel intercepts that Donald John Trump personally, and his representatives individually, and severally (such as Gen. Flynn and Manafort) have personally visited, communicated with, and taken monetary (and in kind) payments from officials of the Russian state, as well as oligarchs and organizations during the 2016 campaign. This was in direct violation of numerous US laws pertaining to election tampering, espionage, diplomacy, and treason.
    During the campaign we have heard Donald John Trump, on numerous occasions, oddly praise Russian President Putin, while condemning US allies as Germany, Japan, Ukraine, NATO and the EU, as well as excoriating the US Intelligence Community, insulting our Armed Forces' hard working and experienced battlefield troops and their general officers, and even bashing the Gold Star Mother of Capt. Khan, who died while preventing a suicide attack upon a mess hall near Baqubah, Iraq, and was posthumously awarded a Purple Heart and Bronze Star.

    As if all of that was not tragic enough, the Trump administration is also doing serious harm to America’s longstanding global intelligence partnerships. A mere three weeks after the inauguration, Donald John Trump has repeatedly gone out of his way to delegitimize our nation's brave intelligence officers (who have served this nation in secret, faithfully, and with honor, since Nathan Hale in 1776), mocking these thousands of quiet, brave, men and women publicly, and in demeaning their precious work, he has even incredibly blown off receiving the PDB (President's Daily Briefing), a brief of the most important daily classified information on national security collected by our 17 U.S. intelligence agencies and given to the President of the United States every morning precisely at 0745 hours, as it has been with every Commander in Chief since JFK.

    "Since January 20, we’ve assumed that the Kremlin has human ears inside the White House Situation Room... There’s not much the Russians don’t know at this point,” an unnamed US intelligence official added in deep frustration."
    On January 29, 2017, Donald John Trump restructured the National Security Council's "Principals Committee" assigning a permanent invitation to Steve Bannon, White House Chief Strategist, while at the same time eliminating the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Director of National Intelligence, thus depriving both the Pentagon and US Intelligence Community of any direct way to advise, consent, or dissent to any actions planned by the President and remaining NSC members, 'in the room', face to face. In the modern history of our nation, this is the first time that the Pentagon and the Intelligence Community have been removed from the direct decision making process.

    In an era when the entire world can be wiped out in in a thermonuclear exchange and 9200 U.S. and Russian strategic nuclear weapons (on high-alert) can be launched in 2 to 3 minutes, and a mass extinction event occur, removal of the Pentagon and the Intelligence Community from the NSC as brakes upon accidental war, or to prevent a "Pearl Harbor Style" sneak attack upon the US (or our NATO & EU allies), is just highly illogical, and profoundly disturbing.
    In these ways and others, Donald John Trump (and cohorts) have clearly adhered to the enemies of the United States while simultaneously weakening United States defense, intelligence, and geopolitical posture. There is no question that these individuals have seriously violated the Hatch and Logan Acts and committed acts of treason, and clear concealments of treason under: 18 U.S. Code § 2382 "Misprision of Treason"

    IN CONCLUSION

    What we have here before us is Vladimir Putin's concerted attempt at a permanent political and military realignment and reversion of United States policies towards Russia via purported blackmail influence over the Trump Presidency. If left unchecked, the Destruction of America & NATO from WITHIN via Donald John Trump, shall be the end result of Putin's determined chess game.

    This destruction of the United States, NATO, and the EU shall finally facilitate Putin's decades long dreams of an expansionist 'Greater Russia' not only in predominate control of Eastern Europe but also of Western Europe and the United States, as well.
    After the significant revelations of the Putin / Trump / Manafort / Panama Papers.... the apparent quid pro quo between Trump & Putin for Ukraine / Baltics / NATO / EU, the failure of Trump to publicly reveal sources of income in his taxes, etc.; it must be clearly affirmed that no one, not even the President of the United States is above the "Laws of the Land", up to and including, "TREASON".
    This petition will be delivered to:

    THE US SENATE
    The US Congress
    Department of Justice
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    Trump went to Florida. But not really as President. He went as a campaign event.

    He's the President now. He's still in his honeymoon period. Why is he out campaigning to the American people instead of talking to them as president?

    The account of the event is chilling.

    The pastor's words about prayer at the end are powerful.

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Trump went to Florida. But not really as President. He went as a campaign event.

    He's the President now. He's still in his honeymoon period. Why is he out campaigning to the American people instead of talking to them as president?

    The account of the event is chilling.

    The pastor's words about prayer at the end are powerful.
    I read the article you linked in another post.

    A couple of weird thoughts

    Why did the First Lady say the Lord's Prayer?
    The description of the set up of the crowd was very eerie.

    The emotion whipped up was a campaign for energy I think.
    My weird thought is that the President is full of demons.
    They need to campaign for energy.

    OK,so what can I do about this thought on a personal level.

    1. Recognize that he has no power except what we give him. He is a trumped up hungry portal maybe BUT only dangerous to those who have agreed to be an energy source.

    2. Don't feed the demons.

    And THAT leads me back to what I think is a way around.

    This seems like a mythic play. I am not sure what the story line is? It is confusing. Trump seems to shapeshift from knight to evil sorcerer to pirate?
    I think he might be a very empty container where many forces are acting out.

    OMG some of the crowd described seemed trivially focused, unconscious minded, uninspired, empty people. They were performers played by the "Master" provocateur. They were told to dish up the hate and they did it on cue. Energy from adoring to despising and being mean: "Thou shalt despise one another with raucus emotional clashing". Flags waving, a patriotism pumping campaign for the hearts blood of poor men. They are poor in spirit and faithless REALLY.

    That is said because of knowing we don't have to have a dog in this fight at all. So what if he IS possessed. It is not contagious. It is allowed one by one that we can be enmeshed in a divine POWER or taken in by the facsimile of "power". That facsimile of fake power is what hooks us in to the demonic feeding. The frenzy will deliver a limited false pride and self congratulation. Demons thrive. All the time people get more empty until they bottom out and die off. Demons move on.....

    As the minister pointed out, where WAS the understanding of the Lord's Prayer. The name was said in vain.

    I think this may go here
    Robinson Jeffers
    Be Angry At The Sun

    That public men publish falsehoods
    Is nothing new. That America must accept
    Like the historical republics corruption and empire
    Has been known for years.

    Be angry at the sun for setting
    If these things anger you. Watch the wheel slope and turn,
    They are all bound on the wheel, these people, those warriors.
    This republic, Europe, Asia.

    Observe them gesticulating,
    Observe them going down. The gang serves lies, the passionate
    Man plays his part; the cold passion for truth
    Hunts in no pack.

    You are not Catullus, you know,
    To lampoon these crude sketches of Caesar. You are far
    From Dante's feet, but even farther from his dirty
    Political hatreds.

    Let boys want pleasure, and men
    Struggle for power, and women perhaps for fame,
    And the servile to serve a Leader and the dupes to be duped.
    Yours is not theirs.
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    Putting the Trump - Russia issue in context. Michael Flynn resigned over a phone call to Russia and Jeff Sessions may be removed for a similar offense.







    Strain out a gnat and swallow a Camel they will.

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    Saw this on 4Chan.




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    Excellent. Thank you. Do you have the FBI anon stuff?

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Excellent. Thank you. Do you have the FBI anon stuff?
    Unfortunately I didn't save it and 4Chan deletes their threads after a few weeks.

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    Is there a name attached to the guy being interviewed?

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    Does 4chan show up anywhere archived?

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    Quote Originally posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Is there a name attached to the guy being interviewed?
    If this is the same guy of whom I have seen earlier revelations, then no — 4chan is usually anonymous anyway. But if it is indeed the same guy, then this is someone who pretends to be an FBI insider, and he has stated that he must remain anonymous because the information he reveals could get him killed. Some of his revelations are intriguing and play into the conspiracy theory climate. Not everyone believes that he would be genuine, but he does know a lot of the inner workings of the FBI.

    He also exhibits a very strong right-wing bias — including some outright racist opinions that wouldn't look out of place with the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazis. He clearly believes in the genetic supremacy of the white race.

    Quite frankly, I find him disgusting, and what's even more frightening is that if he is indeed an genuine insider, then his opinions may actually be representative of the FBI's internal doctrine.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Quote Originally posted by Dreamtimer View Post
    Does 4chan show up anywhere archived?
    I thought the same thing and did a search...the site sure has a colorful past...Yikes!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan

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