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    Misconceptions About Christopher Columbus


    Some things that have nothing to do with Christopher Columbus.


    So much of what we say about Columbus is either wholly untrue or greatly exaggerated. Here are a few of the top offenders.

    1. Columbus set out to prove the world was round.
    If he did, he was about 2,000 years too late.*Ancient Greek mathematicians*had already proven that the Earth was round, not flat. Pythagoras in the sixth century B.C.E. was one of the originators of the idea. Aristotle in the fourth century B.C.E. provided the physical evidence, such as the shadow of the Earth on the moon and the curvature of the Earth known by all sailors approaching land. And by the third century B.C.E., Eratosthenes determined the Earth's shape and circumference using basic geometry. In the second century C.E., Claudius Ptolemy wrote the "Almagest," the mathematical and astronomical treatise on planetary shapes and motions, describing the spherical Earth. This text was well known throughout educated Europe in Columbus' time.

    2. Columbus discovered America.
    Yes, let's ignore the fact that millions of humans already inhabited this land later to be called the Americas, having discovered it millennia before. And let's ignore that whole Leif Ericson voyage to Greenland and modern-day Canada around 1000 C.M.E. If Columbus discovered America, he himself didn't know. Until his death he claimed to have landed in Asia, even though most navigators knew he didn't.

    3. Columbus introduced syphilis to Europe.
    This is hotly debated. Syphilis was presented in pre-Columbus America. Yet syphilis likely existed for millennia in Europe, as well, but simply wasn't well understood. The ancient Greeks describe lesions rather similar to that from syphilis. Perhaps by coincidence,*an outbreak of syphilis*occurred in Naples in 1494 during a French invasion, just two years after Columbus' return. This sealed the connection.

    4. Columbus died unknown in poverty.
    Columbus wasn't a rich man when he died in Spain at age 54 in 1506. But he wasn't impoverished. He was living comfortably, economically speaking, in an apartment in Valladolid, Crown of Castile, in present-day Spain, albeit in pain from severe arthritis. Columbus had been arrested years prior on accusations of tyranny and brutality toward native peoples of the Americas. But he was released by King Ferdinand after six weeks in prison. He was subsequently denied most of the profits of his discoveries promised to him by Ferdinand and Queen Isabella.

    5. Columbus did nothing significant.
    With all this talk of a hapless Columbus accidentally discovering the New World, as well as the subsequent genocide of native cultures, it is easy to understand the current backlash against Columbus and the national holiday called Columbus Day, celebrated throughout North and South America. This isn't entirely fair.


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    Always the the wrong side of the mirror ! Everything that we get taught and all the systems support the opposite of the truth !
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    Maybe we should share the truth about the monster that was Columbus........

    CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS - PSYCHOPATH AND MASS MURDERER RESPONSIBLE FOR SMASHING INFANTS' HEADS AGAINST ROCKS -- CELEBRATED BY AMERICA

    Photo: An old painting of Columbus and his men slaughtering NativesSource Article:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=604789092911573&set=a.4345692099335 63.103142.432632306793920&type=1&theater"We, the admins here at*The Mind Unleashed, are very much against Columbus having his own holiday. We feel Columbus Day should be abolished, and that his true history should be well exposed to the public. If you don't know why that is, I highly recommend you thoroughly research the mans history. Here are a few random facts as well as a few quotes of his I've come across in my research..For starters, did you know, the real reason Columbus was 'sailing the ocean blue' was because he raped the 13 year old daughter of a Spanish Duchess? They couldn't kill him without angering the Italian court, so Queen Isabella just sent him on a mission they didn't think he would return from. It is also ON PUBLIC RECORD that he rewarded his soldiers by giving them Native Americans to rape. At times, they would make an example of a Native by cutting his hands off and tying them around his neck, then telling him to go and 'share the message' with the rest of his tribe. Other times they would go and massacre an entire village, unconcerned with the age of their victims. (It's no wonder the 'elite' gave him a holiday..)When Columbus first came ashore and was greeted by the Arawak native Americans with smiles, gifts and food, he wrote in his log:They brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things they willingly traded everything they owned They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane They would make fine servants With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.From the very outset Columbus was writing about conquering and enslaving the natives. Meanwhile the Arawaks, brought gifts, prepared food, and traded everything they owned.Columbus wrote that the natives,are so nave and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they have, they never say no. To the contrary, they offer to share with anyone.He also wrote,I believe that they would easily be made Christians, because it seemed to me that they had no religion.The European settlers took a free society without possessions, property, currency, hierarchy or written religion and replaced it with*todays America the worlds shining beacon of selfish materialism, where every square inch of land/water/airspace is publicly or privately owned, taxed, and governed through a corrupt hierarchical system of laws and regulations where Mother Natures gifts are treated as personal possessions to be bought, sold, owned and defended.Columbus wrote:As soon as I arrived in the Indies, on the first Island which I found, I took some of the natives by force in order that they might learn and might give me information of whatever there is in these parts.The information that Columbus wanted most was: Where is the gold? His second expedition was given seventeen ships and more than twelve hundred men. The aim was clear: slaves and gold They went from island to island in the Caribbean, taking Indians as captives roaming the island in gangs looking for gold, taking women and children as slaves for sex and labor.It was his [Columbus] avowed aim to convert the heathen Indians to our Holy Faith that warranted the enslaving and exporting of thousands of Native Americans. That such treatment resulted in complete genocide did not matter as much as that these natives had been given the opportunity of everlasting life through their exposure to Christianity. The same sort of thinking also gave Westerners license to rape women. In his own words, Columbus described how he himself took [his] pleasure with a native woman after whipping her soundly with a piece of rope.Helen Ellerbe, The Dark Side of Christian History (86-88)By 1496 the settlers were responsible for 34 million native American deaths. We are not talking about some guy who accidentally bumped into America looking for a spice-trade route to India, but thats what the standardized textbooks continue to tell our children about him. Personally, I don't even know why the mainstream historical texts say he 'discovered America' since Natives were obviously in America long before he was, AND for the fact that most of the tribes he slaughtered or enslaved were in the Caribbean. (There is ZERO evidence that he even found 'the mainland of North America'. There are some claims that he landed somewhere in the Florida Keys, but it's hard to say if they're true at this point.)There is absolutely, positively NO GOOD REASON to give this mass murderer a holiday/annual memorial celebration. To do so is an insult to MILLIONS of Native Americans. And, pretty much everybody who bothers to research their history deeper than the sugar coated lies they feed us in school..If you'd like to read up on the history they've omitted about Columbus from our history lessons in school.. Here's a few links to get your research started.http://hiphopwired.com/2010/10/11/re...er-in-history/


    The man quite simply was evil personified.


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    Was unaware he was that evil, history indeed needs herstory

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    Exact reason I do not "celebrate" their columbus day....annihilation of native americans....
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    6. The name itself may be fake. Christopher Columbus is the Anglicized name. It has variations in other Romance languages (Spanish, Italian, Latin) that are all different but are very close etymologically to "Christ-bearing colonizer" or "Christian colonizer." It could of course just be a coincidence, but if I ever find any solid evidence of this not being a personal name but a title then the whole story is questionable. As it stands the Europeans were obviously already traveling to America long before 1492.

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    Quote Originally posted by bsbray View Post
    6. The name itself may be fake. Christopher Columbus is the Anglicized name. It has variations in other Romance languages (Spanish, Italian, Latin) that are all different but are very close etymologically to "Christ-bearing colonizer" or "Christian colonizer." It could of course just be a coincidence, but if I ever find any solid evidence of this not being a personal name but a title then the whole story is questionable. As it stands the Europeans were obviously already traveling to America long before 1492.
    His actual name was Cristoforo Colombo, and he was an Italian. However, Italy refused to acknowledge that Earth was spherical, rather than flat, so Colombo contacted the Spanish queen and she agreed to grant him an expedition to prove that Earth was round by having him sail to the West until he'd arrive at India, in the East.

    Of course, the existence of the Americas — themselves named after Amerigo Vespucci — was still largely unknown in Europe at the time, so when Columbus arrived at the Americas and met the natives, he thought he was in India and he called the natives "Indians", which is why native Americans are still referred to as such in popular culture today.

    It was only much later, long after Columbus had been credited with the discovery of the Americas, that it was discovered that the Vikings had already arrived there long before him.
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    Quote Originally posted by Aragorn View Post
    His actual name was Cristoforo Colombo, and he was an Italian.
    The problem of making hard statements like this, like they teach people to do in public school, is that you're taking someone else's word for that. You didn't personally investigate it, right? They just print this stuff out in a book, without sources or much detail at all most of the time, and that's what people are expected to learn.

    When the Columbus story was announced, it was announced in a printed handbill or sheet of newspaper in Spanish, which was then translated into Latin, Italian and other languages and spread around Europe. Just the same as you wouldn't trust a news story from a government mouthpiece, you shouldn't trust things circulated by Catholic authorities in medieval Europe. The Catholics were notorious for forging documents and lying, in all countries. Scholars already admit that at least parts of this circulated document were fictional.

    The name Christopher Columbus was itself translated from language to language as if the name were common words or even a title. Today this doesn't happen as much but back then it was more common to translate names, because all names used to actually mean something in common language. Spelling variations were also more common of course. I would not be surprised if the Spanish government decided to "disclose" knowledge of the Americas for some political reason and then fabricated a discovery story out of convenience. It would not be the most outrageous thing they've done historically, or even unprecedented.

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    The story of the name 'indian' is a bit different than that. At the time it was Hindustan and he would have found Hindus.

    I first heard the story from Russel Means and then later by an indian friend of mine.

    Columbus found a people he described as a people 'in Dio', of God, so trusting as to make excellent slaves. They were one of the riches he 'found'.

    Indian comes from that phrase.

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    The authenticity of these old sources is often a matter of debate as to where they came from and how truthful they were to begin with, but there is a letter taken as authentic by scholars supposed to be from Columbus in 1493, titled in Latin, De Insulis Indiae supra Gangem nuper inventis.

    This title means "Of the Indian Islands beyond the Ganges, Recently Discovered." The word "Indian" is "Indiae," the proper Latin noun for the country of India, which was referred to in the plural (similar to the French "les Indes" today for India). It was not "In Dio," and the Ganges is specifically mentioned as well. Of course this is not where Columbus actually was, but this is what is passed around as a 1493 letter from Columbus printed and distributed around Europe.

    According to conventional history Columbus and his men immediately set about abusing the poor people specifically because they were not Christian. They were called heathens. Obviously the natives were not Christians.

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