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    Interesting item ...

    Personally i sense Europe is very capable of defending its Union ...




    Europeans Debate Nuclear Self-Defense after Trump Win

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    hmm ...

    "The USNS Bowditch was sailing about 100 miles off the port at Subic Bay
    when the incident occurred, according to the official."



    China seizes US Navy underwater
    drone in
    international waters of South China Sea
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    From Fox News ...
    Some Conservative Venting ...


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    China Seizes A U.S. Navy Underwater Drone In South China Sea Amid Growing Tensions.

    Via Viral Spell


    "China has agreed to return the U.S. underwater drone that it seized in international waters earlier this week, the Pentagon said Saturday" ...

    Published on Dec 18, 2016


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    Just in ...



    Russian ambassador to Turkey killed in targeted attack


    Update: the attacker was an off duty Turkish policeman



    Russian ambassador Andrei Karlov shot dead in Turkey - BBC News


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    Quote Originally Posted by giovonni View Post
    Just in ...



    Russian ambassador to Turkey killed in targeted attack


    Update: the attacker was an off duty Turkish policeman



    Russian ambassador Andrei Karlov shot dead in Turkey - BBC News


    This feels really significant

    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ6YeSANJ-w

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    I got some "interesting" feelings about this and put them into this very short video.

    Mystic Brew: Where's The Blood? Russian Ambassador Killed.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DToyO5Ja5OI


    The blood part is only one of "not right" data points for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modwiz View Post
    I got some "interesting" feelings about this and put them into this very short video.

    Mystic Brew: Where's The Blood? Russian Ambassador Killed.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DToyO5Ja5OI


    The blood part is only one of "not right" data points for me.
    That is what I wondered...seems blood should have been spreading out from wounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie View Post
    That is what I wondered...seems blood should have been spreading out from wounds?
    That is certainly my thought on the subject. Glad to know I am not being too crazy, lol.
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    Here is a link to the incident on Zerohedge. It has a twitter post down the page a bit the captures the face of the ambassador as he is being shot. I did not count the shots but, it sounds like a full cartridge of 9mm shots were fired. I am not sure the face of the 'dying' ambassador is fully convincing. After all, he is not a paid actor. What would be the motive, if this is a false flag? Given the remarks of Putin, it would seem all out war on terrorists. Apparently killing civilians in Aleppo did not galvanize the world because of Fake-stream media "coverage".

    I need more time to continue to look at this before giving the ideas flooding onto my head more air time. It is possible the ambassador was truly shot and died. Although his making it to the hospital and then dying, though quite reasonable, does have "advantages".

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...on-unknown-cnn

    Now, news of a truck plowing through a crowd in Berlin, killing 9 people, will possibly displace the Russian Ambassador story from being covered as the main news event. Things are moving at break-neck speed. New World Disorder.
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    Indeed.
    Play behind the scenes, being seen, so far, is mass meditation on 21ST dec IS a full on one, affecting the now hugely imo.

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    Faking news this hour.
    "Sorry there is a shortage of blood at the moment because several new series's of vampire and zombie shows in pre-production unexpectedly bought out all the supply from special effects warehouses."

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    Does it seem like the footage of the shooting is starting to disappear from view?


    also note that they managed to get a supply of blood in for the gunman to be shot though as seen in photo 11 of the photos on the NYPost link (gio's first link) ->http://nypost.com/2016/12/19/russian...rgeted-attack/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothing View Post
    Does it seem like the footage of the shooting is starting to disappear from view?


    also note that they managed to get a supply of blood in for the gunman to be shot though as seen in photo 11 of the photos on the NYPost link (gio's first link) ->http://nypost.com/2016/12/19/russian...rgeted-attack/
    Yes. An earlier youtube was removed. I had to use a twitter feed to view it again.
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    How bad is it ...


    Note photo taken three days ago

    Beijing 'trapped under giant toxic cloud'

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    Lightbulb

    Lessons apparently learned ...
    How bad was it ...

    Back in 1970, i worked for the South Buffalo Railway (a subsidiary of Bethlehem Steel) ...
    Within a year of this photo, the plant went from a work force of 14 thousand to 7 in 1971
    eventually closing down in 1983 ... All due mostly to cheaper Asian industries and less
    government foreign EPA regulations.




    The pollution some days was so bad, that a small carton of milk (for my lunch) upon
    just opening, looked as if i sprinkled a pepper shaker into it ...

    Today the same view of the once vibrant now closed and mostly cleared location on Buffalo's
    Lake Erie Harbor ...

    Steel Winds, a wind farm built in 2006 on the former slag heap of the Lackawanna Steel Co.
    plant in Lackawanna, New York.




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    hmm ...

    The Influx of well to do Chinese is going to be a very interesting trend to watch. In Seattle the influx of Chinese such as those described in this article is already having a major effect on increasing real estate values, as it did in Vancouver BC. But there are other implications. It is going to make the cultures of Australia, Canada, and the U.S. more diverse, more Chinese, just at a time when China is poised to play a much bigger role on the world stage, as the U.S. is diminished by self-sabotage.

    Stephan A. Schwartz

    The Aust-China Group, a residential developer targeted to Chinese buyers based in Melbourne,
    has seen a notable increase in Chinese retirement investments.



    Chinese Retirees Could Fuel the Next Overseas Property Boom

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