TRUMP is the next President of the UNITED STATES! AP Calling Pennsylvania as a Trump Victory

**Myst** · 9th November 2016, 12:57

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**lcam88** · 9th November 2016, 13:01

Originally posted by Dreamtimer

... democratic Presidential leadership in America...

Not democratic, republican.

There are quite a few people who think the presidency is a symbolic position. If that is the case, indeed it won't really matter if he is a "man of his word".

I think Russia is happy; they feel he is the best option to reduce tensions in Eastern Europe. I think China is happy with their disputed Island thing. The Europeans, well, they certainly don't want to be nuked but I think Nato wouldn't mind. The EU? They are rather a puzzle to me.

Israel? Well Obama didn't do anything to strengthen ties with them. Maybe things can be recovered and then they will have good relations with both Russia and the US.

Mexico? Economic growth in the US means more exports for them, if Trump can rebuild the economy. Same for Canada.

I think the only real losers in this are Saudi Arabia and their sunni allies with their Clinton Foundation Bet/Tip not working out. <shrug/>

PS maybe I'll invite bsbray to comment here? do you think he would accept an olive branch?

PSS Jon Rappaport says:

...zRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP. Boom.

The script has been shattered.

Trump wins.

And now, without pause, it's time to hold his feet to the fire.

Because the people who voted for him expect action...

PSSS I think another valid question to ask is: How can Trump screw it up more than it already is?

**Dreamtimer** · 9th November 2016, 13:40

Originally posted by Myst

Dear Democrats, Read This If You Do Not Understand Why Trump Won

This message applies to more than just Democrats. Either way, it's been an historic election.

A democratic republic is democratic which is why I used the small 'd'.

**Divine Feminine** · 9th November 2016, 15:28

More than Trump winning, I'm shocked that people actually believed Hillary was even a viable candidate. In my mind a vote for Hillary means your o.k with their pedophilia behavior(as recently released by Wikileaks), you're o.k. with the progressive movement(aka Agenda 21), you're o.k. with electing a treason-ist who has no problem selling out your country, you're o.k with the Veterans of America repeatedly being treated like crap, you’re o.k. with jobs being shipped out of the country aka NAFTA (NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE AGREEMENT) and you're o.k. looking the other way to her being Queen of corruption and criminal behavior. And to think I haven’t even listed the half of it.....I mean there’s so much evidence of unethical behavior it’s incomprehensible that she was even allowed to run in the first place. Compared to Trump, who isn’t perfect, there’s no comparison, I mean seriously....just the pedophilia alone should scare the beh-jesus out of anyone who has kids. And why anyone thinks what I listed above benefits the country or the people in any way, is beyond me. I hope by now people understand this has nothing to do with Blue vs. Red.

I have stayed out of the political debates and haven’t really followed the discussions on here and I’m not interested in getting into any arguments, but gee whiz, if people wonder how Trump could possibly win, above is a good start.

Let’s hope Trump follows through with all he’s promised,.. he has his work cut out for him. I remember Trump saying one of the first things he’s going to do is eliminate the EPA(Environmental Protection Agency). In all fairness, there’s so much that needs to be fixed because of the many years of Alice in Wonderland policies and procedures, he might not get to it as soon as he promised. I will patiently wait with high expectations hoping the stronghold of a tyrannical government has finally lost its death grip.

**Maggie** · 9th November 2016, 15:40

Concession speech on PBS livestream

http://www.ustream.tv/pbsnewshour?ut...20161109082457

**lcam88** · 9th November 2016, 15:41

Yes Divine Feminine! That is well said.

We all believe what we believe; an issue of faith. If our beliefs where based on real evidence, it would be called knowledge. Many of us permit ourselves to become entrenched in certain doctrines, dogmas or positions for no other reason than we like it.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL_wh-d1pP4

**Divine Feminine** · 9th November 2016, 15:41

omg look at what Hillary's wearing!!!

**lcam88** · 9th November 2016, 15:50

a joker outfit?

**Divine Feminine** · 9th November 2016, 15:51

LMAO...it's so 'occult in your face'....creeps me out!

**lcam88** · 9th November 2016, 15:55

I can't help but notice all the "hyperbole" in what she says.

**Divine Feminine** · 9th November 2016, 15:55

And Bill is wearing a purple tie to boot! Unbelievable! Yes, they're committed to 'the cause' alright.

**Myst** · 9th November 2016, 15:56

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**lcam88** · 9th November 2016, 16:09

We where a republic for only about 7 years, from 1776 till 1782, according to some interpretations of history.

The constitution formed in 1782 had to be done to address a growing national debt. One interpretation is that the document, signed by representatives of all the states at the time, is that it was surety offered to the holder of the national debt at that time (ironically, the King of England). That would make the document a "draft instrument" as defined by UCC that backs the national debt of the federal; incidentally, a requirement to show that such an instrument had a genuine intent to honor the debt is evidenced by the included provisions for congress to coin money and have authority to levy taxes.

I'm not sure what you would call a sovereign entity (republic) operating under bankruptcy indebted to some creditor. Democracy seems to be as good a term as any.

**Maggie** · 9th November 2016, 16:11

Originally posted by lcam88

I can't help but notice all the "hyperbole" in what she says.

EXACTLY what I was thinking. The trite phrases and the emptiness and hollow ring of the sound.
I doubt her kind of politician has even one ounce of faith that the words could stand for reality.
The upset of the election is really marvelous.

One of the issues brought up on RT last night was that IF Sanders had not been taken out by Clinton's buy out at the Democratic convention, we may have seen a Sander's victory.
People repudiated the Clinton machine.
IMO this election shows that the election just threw some apples onto the ground but we have to pick them up!!!

**Divine Feminine** · 9th November 2016, 16:13

Originally posted by Myst

That may be, but the U.S.A. is not really a democratic republic. The word "democracy" is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. It's more accurate to refer to the U.S.A. as a constitutional republic. The founders feared democracy. The majority does not rule. The Constitution rules.

"Democracy is the most vile form of government. ... democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property: and have in general been as short in their lives as the have been violent in their deaths." — James Madison (1751-1836) Father of the Constitution, 4th President of the U. S.

“We are a Republic. Real Liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy.” — Alexander Hamilton (1755-1804) Lawyer, Secretary of the Treasury & Secretary of State

“A simple democracy is the devil's own government.” — Benjamin Rush (1745-1813) Founding Father & signer of the Declaration of Independence

Correct...and this is one factor that has me a bit worried about Trump. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is run as a corporation...every city, county and state all have EIN numbers on DUNS & BRADSTREET, hence the 'all cap' letters. So if Trump knows anything, he knows how to run a corporation. We are ruled under the 'color of law', not 'common law' which is why we are no longer a Republic. One can look at the Legislative Act of 1871 to see how this came about....Because of Trump's stance and involvement in corporations, I'm not convinced we'll be reverted back to a Republic anytime soon.