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    Quote Originally Posted by jonsnow View Post
    Interesting view but without banks a dark age will emerge with no moveable wealth . Gold is a relic of the past because there is not enough of it to go around scarce . Goverment care nothing for gold and are moving towards electronic money for two reason first they are broke and to stop bank runs.gold is okay for the average person but the major players cannot invest in it mostly because it is not big enough for super wealthy and more important does not pay interest . If gold does go bananas goverment will kick in every door looking for it or seize it or both
    If Gold is a relic that will lead to a dark age then explain why Libya was such an incredible success. So much of a success in fact the US saw Gaddafi as a threat to the global banking system and destroyed him with violence.


    Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek


    A small list of things Gaddafi provided to his people thanks to the GOLD STANDARD.
    - In 1951 Libya was the poorest country in the world
    - Housing is a human right and is nearly free. Homelessness does not exist in Gaddafi's Libya
    - Electricity was FREE to all people
    - He build schools, hospitals, roads, airports, shipping hubs
    - FREE Healthcare (Something even America lacks)
    - All loans are 0% by law (The Libyan bank was state owned as opposed to Rothschild owned)
    - cars are provided at half cost and gas is 14 cents a gallon
    - Anyone who wanted to be a farmer was given FREE land, equipment and training
    - Libya provided all this and ZERO national debt because their money was made of GOLD not valueless paper

    Libya was a paradise that thus had to be destroyed for humans must never learn the truth of their enslavement. Libyans shared in the natural and intrinsic wealth of their county FREE from the shackles of debt slavery. The country was run for the benefit of the people and not the benefit of the bankers and world controls.

    I urge you to wake up and see the enormity of this great crime against humanity. Heal thyself of your Stockholm syndrome that you have for the rulers that control us like slaves.

    Libya under Gaddafi:
    (NOT a dark age. They had it better then we do as Rothschild's debt slaves)




    While being bombed by the US:


    NOW


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    Novusod, thank you for a most provocative thread. You really have me thinking of the meme of scarcity which has been a huge issue with my pattern of thinking throughout my life. This is very well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pointessa View Post
    Novusod, thank you for a most provocative thread. You really have me thinking of the meme of scarcity which has been a huge issue with my pattern of thinking throughout my life. This is very well done.
    Agreed. Novusod is doing a great job with both the thorough presentation of the subject and the handling of objections. I had a good feeling about this thread and am very happy with its quality.
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    Well done Novusod, great info here...
    Whatever is true. Whatever is noble. Whatever is right. Whatever is lovely. Whatever is admirable. Anything of excellence and worthy of praise. Dwell on these things. Jesus Christ (I agree)

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    Some more highlights from the "Ship of Fools" and other musings.

    Rent you capital here at interest.
    Get a job @ Capital
    Salary = 2 peanuts


    Supreme Court says it is all fair and those rats live better than me.


    WORK HARDER join the rat race.


    The Military will make the world safe for Democracy.


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    Well ....were do i start lol

    The World or Dollar runs on two currency the first one is Oil has been the main currency of the last hundred years Wars are fought over it and for it . At the end of World war one Germany had 2 million men but no quick way to
    get the men to Western front from the eastern front ( Oil was available in Hungary but was delayed by British intelligance which won the war as the full German army would have over run British , France lines ). The eastern front had fallen as Russia descended into civil war which was payed for by Germany ( Revolutions are expensive ) . The first World War was fought over a railway from Berlin to Iraq which undercut British shippping by 70 percent and was faster shipping as well .

    The Second World War was fought over the decline of the British Empire ( bankrupt makes every empire fall as we all like getting paid lol) and mainly who would take her place the choice was either Germany or United States . The main source for Germany Oil was Hungary and Venezuela there was a congress enquiry into Venezuela ( American colony ) Oil going to Germany however in 1943 America congress stopped Rockefeller from shipping Oil to Germany . Bush Snr President father was the front man for Rockefeller Oil and was tried and found guilty of treason over it .I think he got probation and was told don't do that ( connections Rockefeller lol ). In 1943 Germany gathered all there forces and went for all the southern Oil field of Russia however they just pushed to far and were completely crushed by the Russia a great victory to be sure .

    Libya is the richest known country in Africa know in oil mostly untapped because of sanctions but they sell or sold billions in oil mostly to europe . They are swimming in Oil lots and lots of it . Gaddafi wanted to set up a Arab
    bourse were you sell all Arab Oil for gold foolish really i would have spent billions buying anti-aircraft weapons from Russia or building them under contrat if not allowed to import them as to building them you can import engineers . Gaddafi had already being hit before his daughter was killed and his home had been hit by missles and country by America so he was not liked .Gaddafi was a tyrant but he was swimming in money and invested in his country and people rather than his bank account ( he might still had few billion there as well ). They ( America , France , Italy e.t.c) were fools to remove him now as Europe is swimming in refugees guess they seized all his assets that they could find do you think the assets were return to the Libya people (no at a guess ) .Gaddafi while in powers there were no refuees in Europe it's chaos there now.

    America is the reserve country for two reason ( three really lol) . The first is all Opec sell there oil in dollars ( Saudi Arabia , Qatar, Nigeria, Iraq ,e.t.c ) they control the market so if you want Opec Oil you buy Dollars lots of them
    and you give them to Opec who gives you Oil . This arragement was set up by United States around the time of Nixon when he closed the gold for dollars rule . He ( Nixon ) cause the oil shock were the raised the price of Oil four-fold around the world it was the time of the 6 day war ( Israel v Arabs ) which was the excuse which was given War . The goal was to force every country in the World to buy Dollars keep America the reserve currency . The Arab country took there orders from Washington and were told with all new dollars from the oil to reinvest the money in America treasurys . They were told they come keep couple millions dollars for toys but the majority of money was to be reinvested into America treasurys. Opec owns trillions in treasuries today .
    America is reserve currency reason 2 is the military any country selling American treasurys especially a lot gets huge military exercise right at there border ( a threat ) or they declare al qaeda terrorist in the country .
    Reason three . There is no other country in the world at the moment to park huge money Britian , China , to small europe is falling apart . World trade is only a tiny portion of investment money and at the moment the dollar is the only place to be .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonsnow View Post
    Well ....were do i start lol
    I don't disagree with the facts you wrote. But please count up how many times you mentioned WAR in your post and then see my post above. If you need violence to enforce your ideas, your ideas are worthless. I really do mean that. Your ideas are worthless. It bears repeating.



    The US dollar is a fraud backed up by Violence. Other countries have tried to sell oil in other currencies but they were invaded and destroyed. Libya, Iraq, Syria are all case in point. NATO killed Gaddafi to stop a pan-African GOLD back currency. This gold backed currency would have lifted the entire continent of Africa out of poverty. The Rothschild's would have none of it as they need perpetual war to maintain their evil empire.

    I urge you to turn to the light and stop supporting the evil empire. War for oil and the dollar being rammed down humanity's collective throat is bold faced psychopathy. It will not be tolerated and will it be called out. Evil must be STOPPED.
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    Novusod honest were do i start ....

    Every person works in there self interest
    Every country works in there self interest

    America at the moment agenda is population reduction ( gmo ) and control of the world through economy reason and military power . If America falls 2034 and China rises do you think China will
    not work in there self interest . If your in the way especially if your a man of power you will be convinced either money or gun to get out of the way or else . We all work for someone and
    you earn money for them or you do not work for them for long .

    Every curreny is backed by nothing and it has been this way forever . The reason for this is simple Goverments cannot keep there hands out of your pocket legally they have no right to tax you
    but you have some chance of convincing them of that in court of law . Indeed once a goverment starts to borrow the end is nigh it has broke every major bank in history because it was law to
    never lend to a crown because how can you force them to pay you back there default breaks the bank . Historically goverment who borrow going back 5,000 years of recorded history only one
    goverment has ever paid the money back Romania in the 1980's. Every other goverment borrow until they default why is goverment debt classified as AAA the default of 1931 was removed from
    history books were all goverments defaulted on there debt for reference look up Herbert Hovers memories. The gold standard was never really a solution because goverment spends so much
    money that it has to break the gold standard. That is why money has mostly been many things slave girls, sea shells , coins , silver , Gold e.t.c each has varied in value over time mostly a game of
    confidence in the system . japan for 600 years had a currency of rice because they kept defaulting on there money and people refused to accept it .Goverment really do not care for gold or silver they
    are moving at light speed to electonic money to collect every penny in taxes no black economy and to stop bank run because they are broke and have promised the moon to people there is no way to
    pay huge pension, healthcare , etc . The debt and promises exceed 100 trillion who will pay a default leads to world war .

    Future of America ....No matter who wins ....

    No pension ( private or public ) ,No dole , No childrens allowance , No relying on the State , A electronic money system which america will be last to bring in mostly because they have trillions in debt all over the world .


    War is a Racket: The Antiwar Classic by America's Most Decorated General
    by Smedley D. Butler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novusod View Post
    The US dollar is a fraud backed up by Violence. Other countries have tried to sell oil in other currencies but they were invaded and destroyed. Libya, Iraq, Syria are all case in point. NATO killed Gaddafi to stop a pan-African GOLD back currency. This gold backed currency would have lifted the entire continent of Africa out of poverty. The Rothschild's would have none of it as they need perpetual war to maintain their evil empire.

    I urge you to turn to the light and stop supporting the evil empire. War for oil and the dollar being rammed down humanity's collective throat is bold faced psychopathy. It will not be tolerated and will it be called out. Evil must be STOPPED.
    I would also like to add for the record that all European nations used to also have a gold-backed currency, but that this came to an end when the EURO was introduced in 2002 as the successor to an older attempt at a unified currency for all European countries, i.e. the ECU. The difference with the ECU is that the EURO has usurped all but two other European currencies, while the ECU coexisted alongside those individual European currencies.


    Quoting the Wikipedia article...:

    "The euro is managed and administered by the Frankfurt-based European Central Bank (ECB) and the Eurosystem (composed of the central banks of the eurozone countries). As an independent central bank, the ECB has sole authority to set monetary policy. The Eurosystem participates in the printing, minting and distribution of notes and coins in all member states, and the operation of the eurozone payment systems.

    The 1992 Maastricht Treaty obliges most EU member states to adopt the euro upon meeting certain monetary and budgetary convergence criteria, although not all states have done so. The United Kingdom and Denmark negotiated exemptions, while Sweden (which joined the EU in 1995, after the Maastricht Treaty was signed) turned down the euro in a 2003 referendum, and has circumvented the obligation to adopt the euro by not meeting the monetary and budgetary requirements. All nations that have joined the EU since 1993 have pledged to adopt the euro in due course.
    "


    So it's basically the same thing here in Europe now, and given that the US Dollar and the EURO are now coming very close in exchange rates, it is not unthinkable that the plan would be to lock them together in a steady exchange rate as a first stage, and then unify them into a single western or possibly globally intended currency at a later stage. Allegedly, similar plans have also already been considered on account of the US Dollar versus the Canadian Dollar and the Mexican Peso.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novusod View Post

    I urge you to turn to the light and stop supporting the evil empire.
    Quote Originally Posted by Novusod View Post
    Evil must be STOPPED.
    Are you saying evil needs to be eliminated? The yin/yang symbol comes to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Are you saying evil needs to be eliminated? The yin/yang symbol comes to mind.
    At the scale of the Primary Creator itself, evil serves a purpose. However, at the more focused levels of Creation farther down, I think it would be in everyone's best interest that evil be expelled.
    = DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR =

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    No evil cannot exist without good Life is balance expelled is wrong sorry Aragorn .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonsnow View Post
    Novusod honest were do i start ....
    You are trying to justify fraud, war, violence, and death to prop up the dollar as being somehow good. It is an argument you can't win. Naked evil will find few allies even in a den of thieves.

    The US dollar is a fraud backed up by violence. It is unsustainable because no amount of violence will ever make a lie become true. Fraud backed up by violence is still fraud. No amount of violence and war can ever make a fraud not be a fraud. The US dollar is still a fraud no matter how much violence the military threatens the world with. The fraud is now at the point of becoming untenable because everyone can see it now and no amount of violence can hide the truth forever.

    Using violence and war to enforce frauds works all too well in the short-term, but then turns into a mega-disaster in the longer term. The fundamental mechanism is that the short-term social successes based on being able to back up lies with violence, or enforce frauds, can never stop those lies from still being false. Therefore, the basic problems with the current political economy are that everything was based on being able to successfully enforce frauds. That worked fantastically well for a few, in the short to medium term, but that drives the society as a whole to become psychotically insane in the longer term!

    The overall results become that society ends up being almost totally dominated by the best professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, who collectively maintain attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance towards any more rational evidence or logical arguments, because the ACTUAL foundation of the established sociopolitical systems are the abilities to successfully back up lies with violence, or enforce frauds. Since no amount of that kind of successful enforcement of frauds can ever stop those frauds from still being false, the more socially successful those systems of enforcing frauds become, the more that the longer term consequences are that civilization as a whole becomes controlled by runaway criminal insanities!

    The sequences of short-term successes based on being able to back up lies with violence has resulted in almost everyone almost totally embracing the frauds. However, the lies still remain false and the more violence they use to back up their lies the more they expose themselves as naked. The emperor truly is naked and it is a gruesome sight to behold. The psychopathy backing the US dollar is at the heart of that nakedness.



    Thus the ship of fool sails on to it's ruin. Again I urge you to turn to the light. Rebuke your demons and cast them out.
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    No sense or reason or emotion can reach you my friend but life and experiences teaches not words

    The Dollar is the safest currency in the world because World debt is like 2000000 trillion and the America debt clock is only 20 trillion Europe is cracking and China is
    not yet ready for the big time Britian is to small for the big buckets of money.

    Wow to America of the dollar going to the moon interest rates will follow for the market controls interests rates not goverment dispite what you think .

    Without money or banks we would be in a very dark age of slaves of the very wealthy


    Well what can i say to that but Thank You and withdraw from this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Steeves View Post
    Are you saying evil needs to be eliminated? The yin/yang symbol comes to mind.
    There is a tsunami of love descending on planet although it does not seem like it. People appear to be flipping out and going nuts however that is the nature of the beast. The only truth is unity consciousness. Unity is a point where everything flips and becomes ONE. It is the point where both the light and the dark come to the same conclusion and all pretense is lost. The view is either naked good or naked evil. People are flipping out because they are confronted with their own internalized evil. They either turn to the light or self destruct in frenzy of trying to justify evil as being good.

    Hillary Clinton too was a wolf in sheep's clothing and likewise her fleece has also fallen off exposing her naked to the world.



    I'm NOT with her!
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