Very good point. Just from the perspective of what and how humanity feeds, it gets about what it deserves.
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OK, we definitely need a savior, or to become saviors...to purify our food and eating habits, got it.
What we consider "negative", definitely can only be viewed that way, and so is something fear and try to eliminate...got that too.
Anyone want to talk about emancipating ourselves from mentally slavery? I've heard that no one but ourselves can free our mind...
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Thanks Donk, here's a few comments. A lot of people are looking for a savior because of the insecurity of the unknown, we don't know where we come from, why were we brought here on Earth?, who created us, etc., but the main thing is, where do we go upon death. And if one add all of what we are here to witness (corruption, wars, famine, abuses of every possible way), no wonder people would love to have a big brother watching over their shoulders. But realistically, I don't see ET coming our way, I may be wrong though.
The last 8000 years (+ or -), through Education, we have come to raise our Standard of Living in most Developped Nations of the World, still, problematics situation stand in Underdevelopped one, but Education bring in Knowledge (even if it's under Illuminati Control) bring in something to talked about, to continue research, etc.. I think that KNOWLEDGE may be one type of savior we don't often reckon! My 02 cents.
Hmmm, it occurs to me...we won't get rid of the paradigm (idea), until we get rid of the idea of "evil".
Once we start actually believing the things we tell ourselves, like "there's a reason for everything, no coincidence", "it is what it is", and so on...when stop with these strange motives we project on to external "problems", then there will be no need for it
Once we recognize we are all one, and all is well, it won't even make any sense
To me this is a harsh view. An analogy:
A man finds a dog, traps it and tortures it. The dog becomes extremely aggressive and vicious. Does the dog "deserve it's owner"? Is it the dogs responsibility to raise its vibration and overcome the torture put upon it by the superior being? Does or CAN it even be aware of the manipulation?
I'm not saying we're not responsible for our own actions, but if the "universe" (or whatever laws govern it) say it's "ok" to trick and manipulate people at such a level that they have no idea whats being done to them, then it should be ok to (at least) say to them "Hey you're being manipulated" in a way that is irrefutable.
The analogy was more in reference to the comparative difference between dogs and us and us and (insert higher being).
We form organisations for the protection of less aware beings and take direct action if some of our peers purposefully harm them (eg in Australia RSPCA) We even have laws to prevent this kind of treatment to these creatures with clear penalties for those who break them. Would it really be an issue if some other "higher" group did the same thing?
Perhaps a different example. You see a person sneaking up behind another person with a knife looking like they are about to stab them. Sure you could stand back and say nothing, maybe you think if they where more aware then they could detect the danger themselves and save themselves. Personally I'd be in favour of at least yelling out 'HEY! LOOK BEHIND YOU!"
I would at least yell, if not tackle such a person. I have stood between combatants before and prevent people coming to blows. I also make videos since Jan. of 2015 to try and raise awareness. I do so in all three of my threads as well. Blessings to you. And thank you for creating a conversation.
I have a huge amount of respect for anyone taking a pro-active stance in this arena. Your courage is admirable :tiphat:
I see the analogy and see it's validity as well as its limitations…
My 2¢…
There are some who are so heavily manipulated and Imprinted (my term for fractured and/or programed etc.) that they really don't have much if any freewill left, or enough anyway, to be able to step out of their Imprinting, in any meaningfully quick way.
These techniques have been used in varying 'strengths' on groups large and small.
But when taken to an extreme and your personality is deliberately fractured and then imprinted with deliberacy, it can take the rest of your life to 'recover' even enough to regain control of ones self.
That is if it even does pop up on ones 'radar'…
For many it won't and for fewer still it is not even a possibility, at all.
The best example I can think of are the 13 families and their offspring.
Not to mention all of the rest of the hierarchical structure that has been built up over the centuries.
My point I guess is, The 'Cabal', the existing hierarchical power over structure, is so heavily Imprinted in the first place, I really doubt that many at or near the top, have any choice(s) left.
Now granted the degree of Imprinting is VASTLY different between these groups, but the basic Imprinting and conditioning, with deliberate intent and powerfully applied force, results in very similar results.
It's just a matter of degree.
And at the other end of the scale is the majority of folks in the US and Israel and plenty of other countries who are so dumbed down via variations of these same imprinting techniques, that they too know of no other possibilities.
Yet.
JJ
It seems to me that the inauguration of the Donald will mark a sort of transition in the "savior paradigm", for better of for worse. The dems in this election acted like the previously successful repubs, putting up the next in line for the throne rather than considering a candidate "we the people" may actually want.
Regardless of how many repubs find the situation pleasing or not, the "savior" from the political heirarchical bullsh!t used their party, now they have to deal with that or adjust their thinking about the "way things have always been"...at least throughout the beginning of this century.
Whether the installation of Trump was completely contrived (as I believe all of our elections probably have been), or accurately reflects the will a portion of the population, it SHOULD reveal how to some how disempowering that holding the POTUS to the savior paradigm (in our minds) can be.
While there will be plenty unable to see anything beyond the superficial bs stories the media will tell us about "what Trump did (or did not do)", hopefully the (false) choices presented to us in this election will have some questioning the way we thoughtlessly give power to "authority"
At the very root...I believe that what the "savior" paradigm is about. Deferring to authority seems a pretty "human" thing to. This is because deferring to ACTUAL, EARNED authority is a NATURAL thing to do. An inexperienced pup is right to look up to its experienced elders to learn how they have lived so much longer than they have.
The "human" problem is that we seem programmed to care more about others' emotional attachment to the authority of their choice. The social norm is to punish those that challenge the authority of those in their established roles. The institution is so unquestionable, that the only thing we believe we can do is sit on the sidelines and bitch about the personalities (and emotionally charged issues they are tasked to conjure) that inhabit the non-negotiable structure.
I have hope that the absurdity from the past year is the push the thinking and "think-they're-thinking" doubters and fence-sitters needed to see how dysfunctional this reality we create actually is. Then maybe we won't need a Jesus or Malcolm X or Crazy Horse or whatever "true activist model savior" type to shift the mindset...and hopefully we won't fall the old thinking that the POTUS of this best-est country eva is the only one that can fix the mess in the world.
The true "authority" should be given to the individuals that point out...and get others to believe...the cognitive dissonances that shape this reality we find ourselves. That help people see through the crap to what actually matters. The "saviors" we unwittingly worship as a CULTure have only "saved" property and the right for individuals to have as much as they want at the expense of EVERYONE and EVERY THING else.
TRUTH is the savior, and those that can bring it to deluded masses need to be marginalized by the decievers. Now that we have a reality show personality starring in the biggest role of the biggest game around, maybe the lies of the structure itself will be the "saviors" that expose the issues we face and change the paradigm.
Hoping for a "savior" was never a legitimate problem. It was latching on to one individual, one set of ideas, a black and white reality we become extremely attached to...that's the TRUTH analyzing the differences of opinions on "individual saviors" distracts us from. The messages they transmit gets lost or twisted or corrupted.
What I find on the personal level is that truth holds up over time. We may be in an era where we get some BIG lies crumble...
Darn good post, Phil.
Saw this on my FB feed, Bernard Guenther says it better than me:
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All right, going beyond the political circus side show and distraction.....
Anyone who is are familiar with my work (https://veilofreality.com) knows that I write and talk a lot about the Hyperdimensional Matrix Control System (HMCS). What it comes down to is that humanity is not on the top of the food chain and humanity is not in control of itself. The idea of "free will" is in many aspects an illusion. Everything you see on the world stage is manipulated and designed to create this "food" frequency and keep humanity in a frequency prison by forces outside our five-sensory perception, working through us/others (including the elite/controllers on a 3D level) and distracting us by the shadows on the wall/world stage (divide&conquer) and official cult-ure. "Government" (or any belief in authority) is also an "archonic" creation; the perfect foundation to keep people in endless conflict with each other, disempowered and produce all the "loosh" to feed upon. In a nutshell, the HMCS is the totality of forces and mechanisms that aim to keep us spiritually asleep.
Currently these occult forces are on overdrive, trying to lock humanity into a frequency prison (which will be heightened with the dawning of Transhumanism and A.I.) to counter-act the "Divine Awakening Force" during this Time of Transition. Yet, this increase of friction (and it will get more intense) and suffering can serve as catalyst and (inner) alchemical initiation for people to truly start questioning everything they ever believed in and were told/taught by official culture and most importantly to engage in sincere self-work and embodiment practices. The choice, as always, is within each Individual and also depends on his/her soul potential, for not everyone is here to "awaken" in this current cycle (and there is no judgment around that) as we are in the midst of a Timeline-Reality split. This is the apocalypse, which means "un-veiling", not "destruction" and "occult" means "hidden", nothing to do with "evil".
However, this is a "concept" that is really hard for most people to grasp and accept and is most often ridiculed and laughed off as "sci-fi", "conspiracy nonsense" or "mental/psychological delusion" because it's so far out their conditioned beliefs and view of life (by design of the same "force"), yet all the ancient mystery schools, shamanic and esoteric teachings (much of it has been suppressed and distorted over thousands of years for obvious reasons) have conveyed this truth for the ones with eyes to see and ears to ear in their own language and symbolisms, be it "The General Law" (Esoteric Christianity), Archons (Gnostics), "Lords of Destiny" (Hermeticism), Predator/Fliers - "The topic of all topics" (Shamanism, Castaneda), "The Evil Magician" (Gurdjieff), The Shaitans (Sufism), the Jinn (Arabian mythology), Wetiko (Native American spirituality), Occult Hostile Forces (Sri Aurobindo, Integral Yoga), etc...
It is not a "fairy tale", or "superstition". Our entire (modern) civilization and society is a product of this "force"....in fact an "alien" creation which we mistake as "human nature" where pathology has become normalized.
Don't wait for this Knowledge and Truth to be brought to you via TED, Oprah, The NY Bestseller list, mainstream "science", let alone any politician or celebrity-style spiritual gurus....and don't believe me either....find out for yourself, but don't ridicule/judge something or have an "opinion" about something until you have sincerely researched it yourself, which, in this case, also implies sincere esoteric self-work to perceive these forces directly, to "see the unseen" beyond appearances....and to ultimately free yourself from its influence via tapping into your own embodied connection to the Divine and Spirit within, i.e. DNA activation to reconnect with your original blueprint prior genetic modification.
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"There are beings in the spiritual realms for whom anxiety and fear emanating from human beings offer welcome food. When humans have no anxiety and fear, then these creatures starve. People not yet sufficiently convinced of this statement could understand it to be meant comparatively only. But for those who are familiar with this phenomenon, it is a reality. If fear and anxiety radiates from people and they break out in panic, then these creatures find welcome nutrition and they become more and more powerful. These beings are hostile towards humanity. Everything that feeds on negative feelings, on anxiety, fear and superstition, despair or doubt, are in reality hostile forces in supersensible worlds, launching cruel attacks on human beings, while they are being fed. Therefore, it is above all necessary to begin with that the person who enters the spiritual world overcomes fear, feelings of helplessness, despair and anxiety. But these are exactly the feelings that belong to contemporary culture and materialism; because it estranges people from the spiritual world, it is especially suited to evoke hopelessness and fear of the unknown in people, thereby calling up the above mentioned hostile forces against them."
~ Rudolf Steiner [Source (German): Rudolf Steiner - Die Erkenntnis der Seele und des Geistes – Berlin, December 12, 1907]
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“Look at what happened in 1914 – or for that matter at all that is and has been happening in human history – the eye of the Yogin sees not only the outward events and persons and causes, but the enormous forces which precipitate them into action. If the men who fought were instruments in the hands of rulers and financiers, these in turn were mere puppets in the clutch of those [hidden/hyperdimensional] forces. When one is habituated to see the things behind, one is no longer prone to be touched by the outward aspects – or to expect any remedy from political, institutional or social changes; the only way out is through the descent of an [embodied] consciousness which is not the puppet of these forces but is greater than they are.
Men are being constantly invaded by the hostiles and there are great numbers of men who are partly or entirely under their influence. At the present moment they are very active all over the earth. Of course in the outside world there is no consciousness, such as is developed in yoga, by which they can either become aware of or consciously repel the attacks – the struggle in them between the psychic (soul) and the hostile force goes on mostly behind the veil or so far as it is on the surface is not understood by the mind.
The apparent freedom and self-assertion of our personal being to which we are so profoundly attached, conceal a most pitiable subjection to a thousand suggestions, impulsions, forces which we have made extraneous to your little person. Our ego, boasting of freedom, is at every moment the slave, toy and puppet of countless beings, powers, forces, influences in universal Nature. All life is the play of universal forces. The individual gives a personal form to these universal forces.
But he can choose whether he shall respond or not to the action of a particular force. Only most people do not really choose – they indulge the play of the forces. Your illnesses, depressions, etc. are the repeated play of such forces. It is only when one can make oneself free of them that one can be the true person and have a true life – but one can be free only by living in the Divine.”
~ Sri Aurobindo, The Hidden Forces of Life - Integral Yoga
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Recommended reading:
- Timeline-Reality Split, Frequency Vibration and the Hidden Forces of Life
https://veilofreality.com/2016/08/02...orces-of-life/
- The Matrix of Control – Beyond its 3D Manifestation
http://wakeup-world.com/2016/04/23/t...manifestation/
- Hyperdimensional Manipulation and Anchoring a Higher Frequency
http://wakeup-world.com/2015/05/23/h...her-frequency/
- How Much Are You Willing To Know? by Lisa Renee
https://www.facebook.com/notes/bernh...54579179793908
- The Hidden Forces of Life by Sri Aurobindo
https://www.facebook.com/notes/bernh...54750259538908
- Transhumanism - The Consciousness Trap
https://www.facebook.com/notes/bernh...54669722533908
- The Positive/Negative Realms of Higher Densities by Michael Topper
https://www.facebook.com/notes/bernh...54557227353908