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I have started this topic of conversation a few times in a local forum over the last decade, the response the first time was appalling. Very little response and what there was, was giggling and trolling. The second and third time were slightly better, and in those times I have pointed out how frightened it seems people are to talk about it.
This is in NZ where most males used to be circumcised up until during the 70's.. not sure of exact dates and digits.. Still the comments are flippant runaways, people who want to talk about it but then freak out so come up with some smart reply instead. A common thing is to display the brainwashing in proclaiming that it is all about cleanliness.
To that I say, okay lets pull out babies teeth because they can rot. Amputate the arms so there's no smelly armpits. Sew up the babies bottom and pipe in a special sewerage system that can also be set up to pay a license and meterage fee for. :-0
The conduct of medical staff you mention there Dreamtimer is appalling eh. It is a bit of a trap for them in ways I guess. Part of their medical indoctrination and learning is to omit all things unnecessary to be known by the patient or NoK. The little white lie thing from all around. "What they don't know can't hurt them". The grey area of a tactic of efficiency in not engaging in sections of topic which will cause paperwork or extra time in explaining. But done under the mantra they are protecting the patient from unnecessary stress and leading them to what is in their best interests . It is a fairly general form of load lightening we all can do, but seen here like a few other examples, it becomes deceitful and even malicious. Contradictory to the words Health Care Providers.
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In my early life I was subjected to a very considerable amount of psychological abuse, by today's definition certainly. Even at the time, though it would have been equally called, "old fashioned upbringing". A passing down through generations of a family brand of militant and stubborn discipline. It took a wee while to untangle quite a bit of it.. yet other things that helped, like forgiving them by being aware it is their first time as parents and they are not infallible, came as epiphany quite young, like 11 or 12. All that stuff, you can sort of quantify. Even being sexually abused by an older child from next door. All that, said to qualify the sense that aside from all that, like in the earlier post, I have always felt like there was something far more horrible that happened before I was old enough to remember. In some ways being able to settle on it being circumcision would be a relief. I have had plenty of time to ponder it, but it slips away like opposing poles of 2 magnets.
I am sorry to hear you had an abusive childhood. The thing that you can't remember is certainly the circumcision though I wouldn't call it a relief.