Originally posted by
NotAPretender
yes, it would...which keeps things interesting...The high road and the low road. We have to choose one. And from a less narcissistic view, there is usually a 'consensus reality' to refer to if we wish.
good point, if true... but i doubt it because murders are not the sole problem, many more people kill each other by accident or by suicide than murder each other...but this would bolster my argument that rural and metro areas should have different gun laws to live by. The guns not coincidentally come from areas with lax laws which is how Mexico gets much of their cartel weaponry.
Gun homicides get far more attention in the popular press, but most gun deaths are the result of suicide. In 2013, the last year for which the CDC provides numbers, 21,175 people committed suicide by firearm, while 11,208 people died in gun homicides.
Suicide is more common in places with more guns
The relationship between gun prevalence and suicide is stronger than the relationship between guns and homicide, as the Harvard Injury Control Research Center's Means Matter project shows. People who die from suicide are likelier to live in homes with guns than people who merely attempted suicide, and states with higher rates of gun ownership have higher rates of gun suicide.
Guns can kill you in three ways: homicide, suicide, and by accident. Owning a gun or having one readily accessible makes all three more likely. One meta-analysis "found strong evidence for increased odds of suicide among persons with access to firearms compared with those without access and moderate evidence for an attenuated increased odds of homicide victimization when persons with and without access to firearms were compared." The latter finding is stronger for women, a reminder that guns are also a risk factor for domestic violence.
The same thing is true for accidents. States with more guns see more accidental deaths from firearms, and children ages 5 to 14 are 11 times more likely to be killed with a gun in the US compared to other developed countries, where gun ownership is much less common. About half of gun accident fatalities happen to people under 25, and some recent analyses suggest that the official count of gun accident deaths among children is understated.
While everyone is at a greater risk of dying by homicide if they have access to a gun, the connection is stronger for women. In a survey of battered women, 71.4 percent of respondents reported that guns had been used against them, usually to threaten to kill them. A study comparing abused women who survived with those killed by their abuser found that 51 percent of women who were killed had a gun in the house. By contrast, only 16 percent of women who survived lived in homes with guns.
I did the math total murder rate is about 3.54 per 100,000 with those 5 cities and about 2.9 per 100,000 without them...you can do the rest. Those 5 cities which have been devastated by social conditions for many generations account for 14.0 % -14.5 % of homocides in the U.S. Those 5 cities metro population is about 8% of the U.S.