Chester's Chatter

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Originally posted by Chester

Yes...

Doctors push Trump to quickly reopen country in letter organized by conservatives

More than 600 physicians signed a letter organized in part by a conservative group that warns President Trump against a lengthy economic shutdown because of the coronavirus.

The doctors call such closures a "mass casualty" event.

COMMENT By Chester:

"Duh!"

"A no brainer"

and in the same vein -

As mask use rises dramatically, evidence for their effectiveness is 'sparse and contested'

Short summary - "Masks" don't do shit."

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There are masks that protect you against getting infected ─ provided that you also maintain all other precautions, such as frequently washing and/or disinfecting your hands, maintaining a safe distance from others and not touching your face ─ but those masks are hard to come by. They can be identified visually by the ostensible filter in front of the mouth.

Most other masks ─ i.e. the surgical type commonly seen ─ do not protect you against getting infected, but instead are meant to protect others from being infected by you.

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Originally posted by Aragorn

There are masks that protect you against getting infected ─ provided that you also maintain all other precautions, such as frequently washing and/or disinfecting your hands, maintaining a safe distance from others and not touching your face ─ but those masks are hard to come by. They can be identified visually by the ostensible filter in front of the mouth.

Most other masks ─ i.e. the surgical type commonly seen ─ do not protect you against getting infected, but instead are meant to protect others from being infected by you.

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But I can't get COVID-19(84)™

I got a vasectomy way back in 1996.

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Originally posted by Chester

But I can't get COVID-19(84)™

I got a vasectomy way back in 1996.

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What's a vasectomy got to do with Covid-19? :confused:

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Originally posted by Chester

600 Doctors disagree with Chris and NotAPretender

Read the letter in the article. I could have posted the letter but would have had to sign up.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...s-even-deadly/

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I did read the letter and the article.

It is propaganda Sam and you should know it. The Tea Party action group is well-known for pressuring people into signing bogus pledges and letters or they withdraw their support. Also, the doctors that signed it (600 out of a million or more ain't a lot) are probably tea party members themselves. They do make some valid points, but the overall narrative and message of the letter and the article is hogwash, it fails on the level of basic logic.

I see dead people. I wish to respect the dead. Wish they would STFU. LOL. Sheesh.

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Originally posted by Chester

You have an agenda, I don't conclude everything you put out there is worthless info or lies or that it makes a great case for the stupidity of progressive ideas.

I embrace you!

Also I believe you can read - "Read the letter in the article. I could have posted the letter but would have had to sign up."

or... read the article from The Hill -

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...en-the-country

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you're still not getting it at all, Dear Chester

I will say this, Chester just to show I'm willing to coop/compromise:

Opening up is a good idea, why not, we have to live our lives, but the Big question still remains...Why is Trump such an idiotic asshole? Now there's a conspiracy idea with much fodder to feed on.

We have a smart Governor who handled this ordeal well. We are opening up step by step. Whether I go rural or urban, I'm close to both, I see folks being smart and considerate. As in, they wear masks, keep safe distances, refrain from hand shaking, etc.

As I said before, the reason things weren't worse is because the people themselves have been smart and responsible. The leadership has a very spotty record, depending on which leaders you're talking about.

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Originally posted by NotAPretender

I will say this, Chester just to show I'm willing to coop/compromise:

Opening up is a good idea, why not, we have to live our lives, but the Big question still remains...Why is Trump such an idiotic asshole? Now there's a conspiracy idea with much fodder to feed on.

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There's two things I would say about Trump as a response to your question -

The first - In light of the fact that no one is perfect (other than myself as I am perfect, ie. perfectly imperfect)... It was clear to me very quickly in his presidency that the odds of him ever making a shift in his personality are almost zero. In addition to this observation, I made odds that he had any real control over the worst of this as almost zero. And then I asked myself, whose problem is this? Whose problem is it if my assessments are true? They certainly aren't his - he has zero problem with being "who he is." And so the answer is, it is my problem. And thus that leads me to reality that I either deal with it or not.

And in light of this, I recommend to others they deal with it (or not) as each decides to do.

The second - I consider Trump's father (please, do your own homework in this regard) and what Trump may have learned growing up. What this tells me is that Trump has an understanding of "forbidden technology" with regards to "who" is allowed to be involved with it. That means Trump likely has an understanding of the military/industrial/congressional complex, how all that works and its power as one of the factions of "secret governments."

I then consider Donald Trump's own life path, especially his stretch as "controller" of Resorts International and as a casino owner. This strongly suggests Trump has experience in working with "mafias" which are "bridged to" "the white world" via Casinos and gambling. This is a huge portal to changing "money" from black to white but having said that, it must be understood that the "white world economy" is only a component of the actual world economy... and I do not mean as only a counterpart to a cash/black economy. There's a serious "off books" economy which only a select few individuals and factions participate. So we deal with three "economies" that make up the actual "total economy." It is my opinion that Trump understands this (and he has made this ever more clear by caring not for "the national debt and annual national deficit" - "it's all monopoly money, anyways" type understanding).

I far prefer the "acting CEO" of corporation America be a someone who understands both of these. And also, he somehow controls himself well enough "they" haven't made him a Kennedy (yet).

In addition, Trump is going after some of the sub-factions (and industries) of the underworld factions which suggest to me "the controllers" are allowing a change "there" and this could mean the "winding down" of the practices used by some factions... practices that involve Satanic Ritual Abuse and Satanic Ritual Sacrifice. This then may result in a more effective eradication of human trafficking, especially child trafficking and pedophilia. And this is where Q comes in (and why, IMO, its is an Operation and not a "larp" and thus certainly not a hoax as "some" so wish.

I like that he doesn't drink, smoke or do "illegal" drugs.

I like that he sleeps three or four hours a night (means he adds somewhere near 20% of time to be productive with regards to consensus reality).

I accept Trump for who he is, including his short comings.

So there's your answer, NotAPretender, with one important final statement needed to be made.

None of the people involved in politics at the higher levels get there by being "saints." They get approved for "the job" based upon the various factions ("controllers") making their bets where all sorts of shenanigans take place for the best "man" to win... meaning, this is decided by the result of the factions efforts to seat "the man" they want.

And they key here to understand is that whichever "candidate" wins (understanding they have the US so well organized in this way that they whittle it down to two and this is decided with months to go before "the Selection," ..er, I mean "election" - that the factions are able to further negotiate with each other and continue to "vett" each candidate simultaneously even up to the very last day or so prior to the "stage production" called "The Election."

When you understand this - you are able to "root" for the one you think you want to win and you can even go "vote" if you think that actually makes a difference. I vote because I like to play along.

I hope you appreciate how much I put into this response and the full honesty I placed into the response.

yes, not bad, Chester..almost, almost I say, that is hard to argue with...BUT, Trump is doing none of those things you suggest and he doesn't indicate any special knowledge beyond how to work with Mafia types (I, personally, believe that the 'dead' bodies will eventually show up in Trump's history). His father's legacy is highly indicative of severe psychological abuse, but his father's message I'm sure was, "Forgive me junior because I've given you all that money". That is the 'double-bind' mentality that burdens Trump at his soul. He is an emotional child, still trying and failing to understand why he feels so worthless. He is incapable of facing outward necessities that involve other people, even raped and traded children, because he is obsessed with himself.

Surely, you didn't miss his KNOWN association with that forkup that died in Prison? Those are his people...he's useless to everyone but himself. Even his children are pawns to be moved on his chessboard. He is a horribly scarred useless human being, who will only on his deathbed recognize his mistakes, if indeed he has not been usurped by the Demonic. It's sad in many ways, but he is not the type of figure that is evocative to those that would feel pity. In short, the people that don't resonate with his dysfunction. Those people that are 'wise' to the ways of all things representing the worst of humanity.

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Originally posted by Dreamtimer

We have a smart Governor who handled this ordeal well. We are opening up step by step. Whether I go rural or urban, I'm close to both, I see folks being smart and considerate. As in, they wear masks, keep safe distances, refrain from hand shaking, etc.

As I said before, the reason things weren't worse is because the people themselves have been smart and responsible. The leadership has a very spotty record, depending on which leaders you're talking about.

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I am happy for you that it seems you are pleased with your experience, so far, with how your governor has "managed" COVID-19(84)™

I would point out though, that I have noticed it is a pattern for you to use the word "we" so often, always implying that you are a spokesman for a collective and the collective is universal. And my experience, especially over the last few months, has been that there are many who are not pleased with many of the words and actions of the current governor of California, many of them leaving California as fast as they can.

Interestingly, this is happening in New York, in New Jersey, in Illinois and what is the obvious commonality is that they are all "blue states" and all have a huge "state tax" and also have huge state deficits. And they are striving to abuse the COVID-19(84)™ scamDEMic™ to try and extort "tax payer funded Federal Funds" to bail out their fiscal irresponsibility. This is disgusting.

In the specific case of California, they are giving free-money to illegal aliens (I use the legal term for what they are) and wish for citizens of states that operate with fiscal responsibility to pay for their lack thereof.

I am proudly a proponent of the critical importance of one's personal responsibility at every level of their being and all my political views begin from that specific "operational tenet."

What might blow your mind is that because of this very tenet. I hold a particular political stance that a.) build the wall, b.) secure the borders and c.) everyone that wants to be a permanent resident - even those who have made some serious mistakes, be provided a status of "provisional permanent resident" immediately. ALL who are here. They then would enter a process where they can achieve permanent residency. Once that has been achieved, they have the existing pathway to citizenship that permanent residents have.

What does the above position have to do with "personal responsibility?"

Here's the answer. It isn't FULLY my fault that there are millions of illegal aliens in the US. In fact, after the last "amnesty," though I was old enough to vote, I didn't engage with these issues. My lack of participation could be seen as a failure of personal responsibility, so I have some fault. Secondly, as a nation, the United States of America failed in its personal responsibility with regards to the whole immigration/illegal immigration/labor force issues... and I lay the blame for that at the feet of my grand parents generation, my parent's generation as well as my own.

And from that particular point of view, regardless of any argument "they came here illegally," the fact is "we made that situation."

Now, go to the human level. And before I do that, I must point out that there was (and is) the reality of the United States of America and then there was (and is) the illusion of the United States of America. So whichever a foreigner may have been attracted to (and that includes the huge grey area in-between), foreigners have been attracted to come here. And they usually make their decision based on what they believe will be an improvement over their own current living situation in light of their prospects of improvement if they remain where they reside.

So, in each case, when a foreigner comes the the US, whether they do so with an intent to stay or whether, as happens, they are in the US on a "visitor visa" and decide to stay... and that in each of these cases, they do so illegally, I honor that, I honor their bravery, I honor their decision.

So combining the two points - the first being, "we," the US... ourselves, our parents, our grand parents and so forth, are responsible for creating weak, weird laws we have (with all sorts of loopholes) and for not enforcing what laws we made... and the second being that who could blame a single human being for wanting a better life (if that's what they believe they'll get in the US) and for taking actions to fulfill that dream?

Now - if Aragorn took the time to read my position on the "illegal immigration" issue facing the US and what I would do if I were in charge... ask yourself, Aragorn... is there anything "Right" about my position and the actions I would take?

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Originally posted by NotAPretender

yes, not bad, Chester..almost, almost I say, that is hard to argue with...BUT, Trump is doing none of those things you suggest and he doesn't indicate any special knowledge beyond how to work with Mafia types (I, personally, believe that the 'dead' bodies will eventually show up in Trump's history).

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Forgive me but have you not noticed the massive military spending and the creation of The Space Force? That is precisely the type of stuff at the TOP of the wish-list of the military/industrial/congressional complex's dream list.

Regarding the next section of your post, you are engaging in psychological analysis which, I would respond... who among us doesn't have emotional baggage? And I would answer... psychopaths.

I far prefer someone engaged with psychological damage than psychopaths.

I will also add that in that next section you appear to accuse Trump of things you don't know are true. This is (IMO) a terrible habit for us to engage in. I am not immune to finding myself making this mistake.

I can only attempt to make my point by the following:

I have worked with the sleaziest human beings you could imagine on this Earth.

I have worked with people who enjoyed having sex with the underaged. I do not and, other than my first wife and when I was a teenager or very young man, I never did.

I have worked with people who either murdered others or issued the orders to have people murdered. I never murdered anyone and I never issued an order to have someone murdered.

I have worked with people who, perhaps were connected with Satanic networks in Europe and the UK. I am not simply speculating this, I am basing it on facts I was told (and subsequently verified), things I learned after I no longer worked with those folks in light of what I came to learn once I took the Red Pill in 2003 (cutting my teeth on David Icke's The Biggest Secret). I was never brought into any "Satanic" activity and I never sought to be involved.

I have worked with people who were former members of the military and who were, after military life, DOD contractors. I won't mention names, but these folks were hand in hand with all the stuff going on in the 70s and 80s with regards most specifically to Central America and this touched "Iran" and touched "Mena airport." I never got involved in any sort of operations that would be deemed "illegal" other than my participation on the "industry" of international bookmaking where, depending on the POV of any particular jurisdiction, I might be seen as operating "within the law" or "operating criminally." But I always worked within the framework my legal advisors told me were "safe" from legal compromise. Despite that, in 1998 I was under the "thumb" of the US Justice Department (out of the Southern District of New York) where, fortunately, the "complaint" was dropped after 7 months of a pretty scary situation.

No one who takes the risks I have taken in life and doesn't get their feet muddy (at the level of one's soul I mean) when walking in the same "fields" with those like I described above.

And what I learned was that in those fields are three types of people. I saw myself as a "wanna be" where something deep in my soul held me back from crossing mortally un-crossable lines...and I think that all my contacts saw that too... and so the invites to cross that first, irreversable line (they always came in the form of hints... and step by step hints at that), the invites I refrained from "biting on" were never strongly pursued. They saw I didn't "have it." - I say, Thank God.

There are those who find themselves "in." And yet, they still retain that connection with their soul. These folks have taken on a very difficult journey... an extremely challenging soul journey. Some 'lose their soul' - spoken as a metaphor, not necessarily literally (and these are the ones who join the third group - the sociopaths and psychopaths). Some end up dead before their time... sometimes by intentional, self performed suicide, some via the indirect form of suicide - placing themselves in a risk position they know full well they likely won't survive. Some end up addicts and though they haven't crossed over to sociopathy/psychopthy... they effectively "live dead" to their connection to soul. And many die that way.

And some take on the challenge of Redemption. And this is what Donald Trump has embarked upon (again, in my opinion).

So whether Trump ever "crossed" one or more of the above described "lines" I cannot claim to know, but neither can you, NotAPretender.

And so I leave this post with the fact that I have to "root for" and "vote for" one of the two "candidates." A clearly compromised human being, Donal Trump or...

...a machine. And understand, "Biden"™ is nothing but the logo of this machine. And the machine, in my best assessment is utterly soulless.

So the choice, for me, is easy.

that was the implication of why he is so confused...all that baggage is compartmentalized away under the psychopathic persona. The Space Force is an ephemeral attempt to do something that Obama didn't do. So, I'm a bit confused by all this now. Feeding the military industrial complex at the expense of the rest of humanity is a 'sign' of good? There are a plethora (I stole that word from The Three Amigos) of types that slaver at all that human waste. Stars Wars/Space Force, they had similar motivations and ain't none of it good. But at a minimum Rayguns actually tried to implement his plan. All Trump has is the phrase The Space Force, jesus, the very thought is the closest thing to hell I can 'conjure' up.

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Originally posted by NotAPretender

that was the implication of why he is so confused...all that baggage is compartmentalized away under the psychopathic persona. The Space Force is an ephemeral attempt to do something that Obama didn't do. So, I'm a bit confused by all this now. Feeding the military industrial complex at the expense of the rest of humanity is a 'sign' of good? There are a plethora (I stole that word from The Three Amigos) of types that slaver at all that human waste. Stars Wars/Space Force, they had similar motivations and ain't none of it good. But at a minimum Rayguns actually tried to implement his plan. All Trump has is the phrase The Space Force, jesus, the very thought is the closest thing to hell I can 'conjure' up.

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We disagree - I do not see Trump as any form of psychopath and you do.

I see the alternative, "Biden"™, as systematically soulless - the root of psychopathy is complete disconnection to soul.

I will always defend your right to your opinion as well as your right to express it.

All I can say is "enjoy the show!"

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not likely...Just for you Chester:

John Cougar, John Mellencamp, John Cougar Mellencamp...whatever the hell his name is..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h04CH9YZcpI