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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
Again, sure you can disagree, but I sure haven't seen many Q adherents disagreeing with the drops; quite to the contrary, I see incredible displays of mental gymnastics in order to make sense of many the mystery shrouded messages and unfulfilled predictions.
The rationalization of what one does not understand and the justification of the fact that the cult leader is caught telling outright lies are symptomatic of all cults and religions.
- "The Good Lord giveth and the Good Lord taketh away." — Christianity
- Earth is flat and all the photos from space that show Earth as round are fake. — the Flat Earth believers
- Shane Bales lied about everything in his blog, but "that was just to test the waters and to throw his detractors off course." — the Ruiner groupies (alias "Shanolytes", © Sam Hunter)
- Mark Richards was innocently convicted for a murder he didn't commit because he's an important whistleblower of the Secret Space Program. — Kerry Cassidy
- QAnon spreads misinformation and makes false predictions "because this is necessary as part of the plan." — the alt-right demagogues
- All the news in the mainstream about Donald Trump is fake. Only the alt-right news is real. — the alt-right demagogues
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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
There again adherents are free to leave the order, but the worried mind is left back out in the cold, all alone.
Yes. In order for a cult to be effective, it must use the concept of addiction. That's why drug dealers will always offer you your first fix for free.
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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
Well first off I have yet to see ANY letting go of this thing LOL, it's all pedal to the metal baby! :)
Yes, the fanaticism is strong in this one. Four propaganda threads that were closed, and the bullshit is still being spread. There's just a little less propaganda involved now — a little less, but it's not free of propaganda just yet — and that's why we're letting this nonsense carry on in the two threads that it has currently moved to.
It'll either way always move somewhere, because a fanatic can't change his mind and won't change the subject. And those are not my words, but those of the late Winston Churchill. QED.
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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
So far as raised fists are concerned, hasn't that been addressed? Adherents have a Trump thread and a Q thread all to themselves. I'm pretty much the only outsider that butts in every now and zen but it's with legitimate critiques and/or questions, not a raised fist. Aragorn was the biggest critic of all, and when is the last time he said a thing here?
Right now. <LOL> :lol:
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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
I know full well it aggravates the shit out of him, [...
You bet, and not just myself only. Everyone in the mod room is fed up with it. I kid you not.
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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
...] but he's giving you guys a wide berth to do your thing. Haven't you noticed?
Oh, somebody has noticed alright, and he's making ample use of it, walking as thin a line as he possibly can, hoping to be able to cross that line again as soon as we let our guard down.
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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
I would say this source has themselves a mighty fine case of God Complex, and this god, his end goal, is salvation through mass arrests and military tribunals of all political enemies. The only research I see, yet again, is the mental gymnastics research done only to prove that everything about Q is 100% legitimate. And lastly Q doesn't need to tell adherents what to do, the flock falls neatly into parade formation all on their own.
Exactly. Sheeple will be sheeple.
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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
With ultimate power somehow achieved, I can easily see this movement turning into a lynch mob.
You bet. There are and have for many years already been plenty of right-wing nutters who demand Hillary's head on a platter.
Not that Hillary would be a saint — far from it — but then again, the 2016 US presidential elections were destined to be a choice between two evils. The US electoral system was designed for that, because Independent candidates are not recognized in all of the states, nor is one allowed to vote for an Independent candidate everywhere. As such, the chances of an Independent candidate ever making it into the White House are statistically very small, and the only two choices in November 2016 were Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.
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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
Now going back to briefly re-touch on your concern about the Q thread not being readily able for public view because of it's placement in the "Conspiracy Research" section:
Just for the record — it's not clear to me whether you're talking about The One Truth or Project Avalon now — the Conspiracies & Cover-Ups forum here at The One Truth is publicly visible.
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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
Do you know that for the longest time I didn't even know what section that big Q thread was in over at PA? Why would I have needed to? It was, and almost always still is, one of the current topics screen right in "New Forum Posts". As a matter of fact I had to jot over there just now to double check and sure enough, it's in the "Conspiracy" section over there too.
Have you noticed this Q thread is almost always in "New Forum Posts" here as well? In all honesty I didn't even know what section it was in here because I didn't need to, it's always right there. If people out there want to come here to see Q's latest, all they need to do is pop onto TOT's front page...
Alas. And because of that, we get more people with an alt-right conviction signing up here. It raises the false impression that The One Truth would be a pro-QAnon and/or alt-right forum, which couldn't be farther from the truth.
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Originally posted by
Fred Steeves
And this is pretty much the only reason I'm even in this thread again Vern, because it seems that wasn't good enough for you, you wanted to have another Q thread piled on top of the thread that was already there all the damn time! And I was like "geez, that's pushing it again".
And this is a Q trademark in alt media: it's in your face all the time, and it always wants more...
"The Preciousss. We needs it. We wants it. Must have the Preciousss."
(Gollum, "The Lord Of The Rings")
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turiya
I see, Fred Steeves, that in the example you are giving, you are using an analogy of the Christian religion for your analogy. This is because your 'choice' is to draw an analogous similarity of those that are following the information that Q is providing to those that follow an established religion. In this case, it is Christianity.
There is a Yuuge problem in using this kind of analogy, that you choose to overlook. Religions are essentially driven by faith, a belief in God. A faith that God exists. And, faith, and a belief, requires no proof that a God exists. Just a belief that a God exists is enough. That is enough for a so-called 'established religion'.
On the other hand, Q requires no faith, no belief in God, or whether or not God exists. In fact, one needs no faith, no belief, that even Q exists. The Q drops are proof enough.
Spoken like a true demagogue again, turiya. I must say that you're really very good at this indoctrination shit.
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turiya
The Q drops alone are enough. As, several drops have been quite correct on a number of occasions.
And everyone with some IT skills and the required fanaticism can pull that off. You don't have to be correct all of the time. Hell, you don't even have to be correct half of the time. Just say something that turns out correct once or twice, and make it so that it catches people by surprise. "Now how the hell could he/they have known about that if he's/they're not (a) true insider(s)?"
Bang, and you've got them hooked.
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Originally posted by
turiya
These drops are called 'Q proofs'. There is no need to 'believe' in Q. There is no need to have 'faith' in Q. Just seeing that the 'Q posts' have been correct on a number of occasions is proof enough. No faith, no belief is needed. The Q Proofs are enough. Q posts keep coming true in the media. The media is showing that the Q Posts are quite true, showing that the information is in contention with the information that the Main Stream Media is putting forth.
Nonsense. See above.
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Originally posted by
turiya
You have chosen to use Christianity as the example that you provide. Fair enough.
Perhaps Christianity was not an appropriate thing to compare this too. Perhaps Fred should have brought up the Flat Earth Hypothesis people. They're just as fanatic as the QAnon followers, and they rationalize all the inconsistencies away in exactly the same manner. And when they can't refute the evidence of how wrong they are, then they go "Oh, but that's all a conspiracy to keep us dumb."
By the way, what does QAnon have to say about the 400'000 public servants in the USA who are not receiving any pay for their work anymore because El Donaldo the Banana Republican™ has to have his Apartheid Wall between the USA and Mexico?