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Aianawa
12th August 2016, 19:54
Okay, so watched the flat earthy forest vid >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v5O6oVMSkw

On meditating on the ramifications of information, the one amazing thing that tickled my brain was, are the standing stones world wide, part of our old ones in the past endeavouring to reconnect earth grid/ley lines/data connection etc through them.

Aianawa
12th August 2016, 20:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3asNnLc7w8o

Novusod
13th August 2016, 20:46
Almost every culture on Earth has mythical stories of giant trees that once existed on Earth.

Tolkien even wrote about them. This is something old Radagast should appreciate.

The Valar went to Valinor and Yavanna sang into existence the Two Trees, the silver tree Telperion and the tree of golden light named Laurelin. The Trees sat on the hill Ezellohar located outside Valimar. They grew in the presence of all of the Valar, watered by the tears of Nienna.

Each tree was a source of light: Telperion's silver and Laurelin's gold. Telperion had dark leaves (silver on one side) and his silvery dew was collected as a source of water and of light. Laurelin had gold-trimmed leaves and her dew was likewise collected by Varda.

One "day" lasted twelve hours. Each Tree, in turn, would give off light for seven hours (waxing to full brightness and then slowly waning again), so that at one hour each of "dawn" and "dusk" soft gold and silver light would be given off together.

The trees were so large they stretched into space and functioned as the Sun and Moon bringing light to the world.

This loosely based somewhat on how Norse mythology saw the the Earth itself as a giant tree.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/12/0a/a7/120aa7790501d39c78d2bdb3358bf1c9.jpg

EDIT: The giant tree is also mentioned in the Bible:

The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth. (Daniel 4:11)

Ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their trees. (Exodus 34:13)

Wail, you juniper, for the cedar has fallen; the stately trees are ruined! Wail, oaks of Bashan; the dense forest has been cut down! (Zechariah 11:2)

You shall not plant for yourself any kind of tree beside the altar of the LORD your God, which you shall make for yourself. You shall not set up for yourself a sacred pillar which the LORD your God hates. (Deuteronomy 16:22)

Novusod
14th August 2016, 06:45
This is a faster paced video that gets to the point much quicker and also has more science to it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wFm4rZbNhw

*Overall I am actually quite torn over the theory. Were these things actually trees or more like living rocks? Gaia the Earth is a living being. These stone trees could just be extensions of Gaia rather than separate living organisms or plants.

We humans know not what we do. Modern day waste pile. What looks like "grass" is actually full grown trees. What will future generations think of this pile in 1000 years.
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/mining-trucks-operate-on-top-of-a-giant-rock-dump-at-the-nyurbinsky-picture-id450767511

Those little insect sized verticals on top of the pile are mining trucks.
http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012_0731-Cat797_06.jpg

Cearna
14th August 2016, 08:46
The standing stones are not dead trees, these are a specific type of rock. All rocks on Earth are actually a part of an Entity or source God, known to me as the soil God. When Earth began it was only rock, which was originally smaller rocks, that one God gathered together, and compressed into at first one big rock ball, later he made another rock ball which he placed to the side of the first one, then joined the two together like the base of a catamaran. Later the soil God came along and placed soil all over the Earth, the Tree God came later and made trees to grow on Earth and the volcano God at different times made eruptions to change the topography of the surface of Earth according to specific needs. You often hear stories of some of the chinese Spiritual Masters, who upon their death decided to place themselves inside the mountains to reside in.

As far as I understand it, when the first Gods other than the source Gods came to be on Earth they required specific things to be made for specific purposes, this included the standing stones and the Megalithic buildings. I was told the Megalithic buildings were made by these Gods, which included Sophia. Sometimes they cut the stones with lazer beams, but some stones began to resist and refuse to be cut as it hurt them, so they began to realise the stones neede4d to be talked to, explained what the need was and the specific size and shape required, and they were virtually asking to the stones to please let us use them. This is exactly the same idea as the Native Americans and Australian Aboriginals asking that the land ahead will provide them with specific requirements, such as some deer to feed them or some trees to give up old limbs to provide firewood and they only ever used what seemed to be provided for them. So if they were able to talk the stones into supplying the needs for the structures, then it would suddenly be there for them, in the exact measurement required so the spirit of the stone would not be hurt. Then they only needed to move the stone, which was usually done by a team of twelve who could levitate the rocks and place them where required. This was done by a form of telekinetics, but by some of the most powerful Gods imaginable, for this was their task to build and put in place all structures required for the transmitting of energies for specific purposes, since this planet is the chosen planet to transmit light, life force, electrical and magnetic energies to other places. Any use of nukes, or destructive weaponry still indeed hurts and damages this particular God who helps us to gather his own love in the form of energies. The standing stones purpose is to gently permit the transference of that energy from one set of standing stones to another. To use any of these nematodes for any other purpose and remove any, simply always and forevermore reduces the energy supply being sent to us and out to elsewhere. If energy is not able to be picked up by a machine of ours it probably means that the flow of energy had been stopped by the alteration in any way of such circular groups.

Aianawa
14th August 2016, 09:09
Am interested in your views regarding the trees, Cearna. And vid in general.

Novusod
14th August 2016, 14:37
As I mentioned before I am torn on this topic. Something about the great trees of old resonate with me on a deep soul level even though my rational mind completely rejects the idea. The rational part of me is saying this is just more "flat earth" trolling and is as nonsensical as believing in the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny. But then again I just can't look away. This is me right now:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a8/c3/59/a8c359a62327c783bfca9a61aa0cf4b2.jpg

More on the biblical passages:


Daniel 4:11 - The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth.

Daniel 4:12 - Its foliage was beautiful and its fruit abundant, And in it was food for all. The beasts of the field found shade under it, And the birds of the sky dwelt in its branches, And all living creatures fed themselves from it.

Daniel 4:13 - I was looking in the visions in my mind as I lay on my bed, and behold, an angelic watcher, a holy one, descended from heaven.

Daniel 4:14 - 'He shouted out and spoke as follows: "Chop down the tree and cut off its branches, Strip off its foliage and scatter its fruit; Let the beasts flee from under it And the birds from its branches.

Daniel 4:15 - Yet leave the stump with its roots in the ground, But with a band of iron and bronze around it In the new grass of the field; And let him be drenched with the dew of heaven, And let him share with the beasts in the grass of the earth.

Daniel 4:16 - "Let his mind be changed from that of a man And let a beast's mind be given to him, And let seven periods of time pass over him.

Daniel 4:17 - "This sentence is by the decree of the angelic watchers And the decision is a command of the holy ones, In order that the living may know That the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind, And bestows it on whom He wishes And sets over it the lowliest of men."

Although this is a dream sequence it fits in with many of the other destruction passages in the bible such as Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the Tower of Babble, etc. Some of these stories were borrowed from Sumerian mythology such Gilgamesh and the Enuma Elish.

The Gnostics call the god of the Old Testament the Demiurge because he was an evil god and a destroyer of mankind who repeatedly wiped out humanity when it pleased him. Christianity until very recently used to put an emphasis on "God-fearing" rather than God loving. There has very much been a white washing of the religion over the years. If you actually read the scripture it possibly the most violent and psychopathic book ever written.

Related to topics to further discuss later:
- Christmas trees
- Jack and the Bean stalk
- Vedic texts concerning Krishna's war in the heavens
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/db/5a/44/db5a4420250a85ac7b7ae52fa10d23c5.jpg

Dreamtimer
14th August 2016, 15:02
"Although this is a dream sequence it fits in with many of the other destruction passages in the bible such as Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the Tower of Babble, etc. Some of these stories were borrowed from Sumerian mythology such Gilgamesh and the Enuma Elish."

There are dreams in the bible and, in my opinion, they're no less meaningful or significant than any other part. The ancients understood the power and importance of dreaming unlike most in our modern world.

This is changing, though. One of my most amazing dreams was of a tree. It was not huge though it did increase in size dramatically in the dream. The most amazing quality it had was being filled with lights that were moving and making music. It was amazing and I took a moment in the dream to savor the experience and to help me recall it.

It would be pretty awesome to see something like that in waking life. The fact that it was in a dream makes it no less significant.

The idea of rocks being alive has been a difficult one for me to understand. When I think of it in terms of energy it starts to have meaning. In fantasy books I've read there are people who can sing to trees or even stone and cause them to grow. There is much we don't know (anymore).

Novusod
15th August 2016, 02:37
Looks like the original video got pulled down but there is a mirror here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObJL6aA2czo

Another bible quote:

Ezekiel 17:24 - "And all the trees of the field shall know that I the Lord have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the Lord have spoken and have done it.”

Some passages from the Vedic Texts:
http://i.imgur.com/TrLt36v.jpg


SB 5.16.12
Standing like flagstaffs on the summits of these four mountains are a mango tree, a rose apple tree, a kadamba tree and a banyan tree. Those trees are calculated to have a width of 100 yojanas [800 miles] and a height of 1,100 yojanas [8,800 miles]. Their branches also spread to a radius of 1,100 yojanas.

SB 5.16.24 — On Kumuda Mountain there is a great banyan tree, which is called Śatavalśa because it has a hundred main branches. From those branches come many roots, from which many rivers are flowing.

SB 5.16.25 — The residents of the material world who enjoy the products of these flowing rivers have no wrinkles on their bodies and no grey hair. They never feel fatigue, and perspiration does not give their bodies a bad odor. They are not afflicted by old age, disease or untimely death, they do not suffer from chilly cold or scorching heat, nor do their bodies lose their luster. They all live very happily, without anxieties, until death.

SB 5.16.19 — Similarly, the fruits of the jambū tree, which are full of pulp and have very small seeds, fall from a great height and break to pieces. Those fruits are the size of elephants,...


So in the Vedic literature there were 4 giant trees each 8,800km tall that produced fruits the size elephants and rivers of nectar that could grant near immortality.

Sounds a bit like tree of life mentioned in Genesis 3:22.

Also maybe the elites are trying to tell us something.
http://i.imgur.com/d5WjxtZ.jpg

Aianawa
16th August 2016, 04:56
Great food for thought thankyou Novusod.

lift the veil
16th August 2016, 14:09
OMG, from a geology perspective this is just obnoxiously ridiculous. Rocks just don't form willy nilly, their composition is directly related to their setting of emplacement and the geologic processes that is responsible for their formation.

Volcanic activity has specific rock types associated with it, volcanic rocks. In this case Devil's Tower is made of phonolite, a volcanic rock. Volcanic rocks only occur in volcanic settings.

As the magma cooled and contracted it formed the hexagonal columns. As the overburdened rocked was eroded away, the formation was revealed. The lessening of the overburdened pressure, along with the aide of weathering, such frost wedging, allows the hexagonal columns to decompress and to exfoliate away from the heart of the stock.

http://caitlinsearthchangingsurfaceinfo.weebly.com/uploads/1/8/2/0/18208095/7833104.gif?276

Polygonal shapes due to contraction are a natural occurrence as seen in nature.

Here are mud cracks.

http://waynesword.palomar.edu/images2/racetr5b.jpg

WTF! :fpalm::fpalm::fpalm:

I watched 11 minutes and I could not stand anymore of the ignorance. The bullshit about petrified rocks was ridiculous too. Again rocks just don't form willy nilly, there is a direct geologic process responsible for their occurrence.

Novusod
16th August 2016, 15:45
OMG, from a geology perspective this is just obnoxiously ridiculous. Rocks just don't form willy nilly, their composition is directly related to their setting of emplacement and the geologic processes that is responsible for their formation.

Volcanic activity has specific rock types associated with it, volcanic rocks. In this case Devil's Tower is made of phonolite, a volcanic rock. Volcanic rocks only occur in volcanic settings.

WTF! [/B]:fpalm::fpalm::fpalm:

I watched 11 minutes and I could not stand anymore of the ignorance. The bullshit about petrified rocks was ridiculous too. Again rocks just don't form willy nilly, there is a direct geologic process responsible for their occurrence.

The video could use to hard fact checking as there are a lot of things wrong it. With that said I do believe the original author is on to something. Much like the "Mandela effect" I have been talking about the answer could be purely super natural and not have a scientific explanation. Much of science itself is indeed wrong.

http://i.imgur.com/pvLTyAQ.jpg

Novusod
16th August 2016, 16:43
The largest plateau on Earth is so large it is scale can only be seen from space.

This is the Tibetan Plateau as seen from space. What an 800km wide tree stump would look like:
http://i.imgur.com/Ym1t3mg.jpg

Certainly looks like a tree stump.
http://i.imgur.com/cXtnn2B.jpg

This is a tree that is so huge it would be nearly as large as the Earth and have its own gravity. The sun would never set on this tree because it was bigger than the Earth's shadow.
http://i.imgur.com/9ssUHaw.jpg

The local religions of Tibet and India describe a tree so large that it had dominion over the whole world.
http://i.imgur.com/osGzNZb.jpg

They Knew! They always knew. The powers that be just enjoy lying to humanity and mocking us "losers" at the same time for not figuring it out sooner.

Official Earth Day logos: once again the elites are trying to tell us something.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nWm5Bc8joS8/VnBY9jZD9vI/AAAAAAAACCg/Fm3BpMO6l8g/s990-r/Brandon%2BSchaferEarthDay2016.jpghttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/30/1c/a5/301ca5017a61afd87ee727e20e1e87ec.jpg

modwiz
16th August 2016, 17:22
Looks like the original video got pulled down but there is a mirror here:

Another bible quote:

Ezekiel 17:24 - "And all the trees of the field shall know that I the Lord have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the Lord have spoken and have done it.”

Some passages from the Vedic Texts:
http://i.imgur.com/TrLt36v.jpg


So in the Vedic literature there were 4 giant trees each 8,800km tall that produced fruits the size elephants and rivers of nectar that could grant near immortality.

Sounds a bit like tree of life mentioned in Genesis 3:22.

Also maybe the elites are trying to tell us something.
http://i.imgur.com/d5WjxtZ.jpg

Very good find, Novosod. The Vedas are full of knowledge that has been hidden. I am not surprised that Yahweh, the Demi-Urge, would brag about taking credit for the destruction of the Magnificence of Gaia. The patriarchy has a simmering hate for Her and all evidence of Her love and splendor. The OT gives us many example of this sad excuse for divinity.

lift the veil
16th August 2016, 18:20
So the Tibetan Plateau is a petrified tree stump? LOL. Okay.

Dirt, soil is made up of clay minerals which are called hydrous alumino phylloslicates. They are basically decomposed continental crust/bedrock which is granite. The main constituents of granite are aluminum (Al) and silica (SiO2) along with cations such as Ca and Na, K, and lesser amounts of Mg, Fe and H20. As a result of their parentage, clay minerals are not that much different than their parent, except for a large addition of water, which is to be expected if you have decomposed granite interacting with groundwater.

Examples of clay mineral chemical formulas:

Kaolinte - Al2Si205(0H)4
Illite - (K,H3O)(Al,Mg,Fe)2(Si,Al)4O10[(OH)2,(H2O)]
Chlorite - (Fe, Mg, Al)6(Si, Al)4O10(OH)8
Vermiculite-(Mg,Fe,Al)3(Al,Si)4O10(OH)2•4(H2O)
Montmorillonite - (Na,Ca)0,3(Al,Mg)2Si4O10(OH)2•n(H2O)

Now, conversely petrified wood consists of SiO2 (chalcedony - which is another form of quartz).

So if the Tibetan Plateau is a petrified tree stump, then it must be a huge chunk of quartz? :fpalm: Is the plateau completely lacking of soil/dirt? :fpalm::fpalm::fpalm: No, it is continental crust (granite) covered by a layer of soil.

That sciency thing allows us to observe and calculate pesky things like chemical formulas, which in geology trace daughter rock to parent rock. Sort of like DNA for rocks.

The Tibetan Plateau formed via the collision of Indian into the Asian continent. It is not a friggen tree stump. :crazy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loFxYSHxTf0

lift the veil
16th August 2016, 19:17
Oooooo, maybe the Tibetan Plateau is really a giant mushroom????

http://i47.tinypic.com/2prwefb.jpg


Or, how about a giant pancake?????? I SURE hope they have some GIANT MAPLE TREES around cause it's gonna need a lot of syrup!

http://cdn0.lostateminor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/pancake-art-3.jpg


Orrrrrr, maybe it is actually a giant cow patty????? There all Brown and Roundish. They all look sooooo similar to the Tibetan Plateau, there MUST be a connection. But which one is it?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xew9by7o8nE/TBXBiIdGjnI/AAAAAAAAABA/nHN_4KaFC_8/s1600/100.JPG

Ooooooo. I know what it is..... That cow did jump over the Moon. Maybe it took a giant dump on the Earth, just to spite it. That's it, it must be a giant cow
patty!
:congratulations:

The Tibetean Plateau is really a giant cow patty. After all they do revere cows over there in India. THERE MUST BE A CONNECTION!!!

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/70/7088/536V100Z/posters/lowell-herrero-cow-jumps-over-the-moon.jpg

Novusod
16th August 2016, 20:30
So the Tibetan Plateau is a petrified tree stump? LOL. Okay.

Dirt, soil is made up of clay minerals which are called hydrous alumino phylloslicates. They are basically decomposed continental crust/bedrock which is granite. The main constituents of granite are aluminum (Al) and silica (SiO2) along with cations such as Ca and Na, K, and lesser amounts of Mg, Fe and H20. As a result of their parentage, clay minerals are not that much different than their parent, except for a large addition of water, which is to be expected if you have decomposed granite interacting with groundwater.

Examples of clay mineral chemical formulas:

Kaolinte - Al2Si205(0H)4
Illite - (K,H3O)(Al,Mg,Fe)2(Si,Al)4O10[(OH)2,(H2O)]
Chlorite - (Fe, Mg, Al)6(Si, Al)4O10(OH)8
Vermiculite-(Mg,Fe,Al)3(Al,Si)4O10(OH)2•4(H2O)
Montmorillonite - (Na,Ca)0,3(Al,Mg)2Si4O10(OH)2•n(H2O)

Now, conversely petrified wood consists of SiO2 (chalcedony - which is another form of quartz).

So if the Tibetan Plateau is a petrified tree stump, then it must be a huge chunk of quartz? :fpalm: Is the plateau completely lacking of soil/dirt? :fpalm::fpalm::fpalm: No, it is continental crust (granite) covered by a layer of soil.

That sciency thing allows us to observe and calculate pesky things like chemical formulas, which in geology trace daughter rock to parent rock. Sort of like DNA for rocks.

The Tibetan Plateau formed via the collision of Indian into the Asian continent. It is not a friggen tree stump. :crazy:



Have you ever pulled out a tree stump? There is usually very poor soil under old trees because the tree sucked up all the nutrients and minerals. What you wrote only confirms my hypothesis more. The Tibetan Plateau is a lifeless desert with poor soil. Mainstream science states that before the plateau rose up the ground was originally flat and should have had abundant fertile soil and much "alluvial materials." If the Plateau was pushed up from plate tectonics alone then the remnants of the old Alluvial plain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alluvial_plain) should logically still be there. Billions/Trillions of tons of alluvial soils just don't disappear during periods of upthrust. There is something else going on.

Maybe the alluvial plain was buried under lava? Nope that doesn't explain it either because volcanic activity is quite rare in Tibet even tracing back millions of years. The subduction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subduction) of the Indian subcontinent should have caused a large increase in volcanic activity that would continue even into modern times. Compared to the "ring of fire" in the Pacific Tibet is volcanically dead. So how did the Indian subcontinent push under the Eurasian continent without melting? Must be some type of mystery.

Also the animation is total bunk. It shows mountains forming in a straight line. Why is the Tibetan Plateau round? Once again where are the expected volcanoes. The animation shows volcanoes but there aren't any active volcanoes in the Himalayas.

Some honest geologists (http://www.scienceforums.com/topic/28687-evolution-of-himalayas-and-tibet-and-the-great-volcano/) have dared to challenge the prevailing theory because they know it is complete bullcrap. The formation of the Tibetan plateau don't fit the models of subduction and they all know it. Where are the volcanoes and what happened to remnants of the old alluvial plain.

You assume I am not scientifically educated but that is false. I learned chemistry, geology, geography, physics among other topics in college. I read Francis Bacon's New Atlantis and decided it was contrived nonsense based off the methodology of the witch trials. I purposely turned away from science because it is not logical.

modwiz
16th August 2016, 20:31
It is funny how this theory, and it is a theory only, has seemed to create division form some quarters. I refuse to participate in it. There is nothing to defend when playing with an idea that one is not insisting on its credulity. The flat Earthers have proved to be a rather shrill group that calls non-believes shills. Now we have science poking fun at people entertaining a possible other explanation for some things. Basically, insisting they are right, as if they are nor relying on others for their information. The religion of science has many adherents. Much like Zawi Hawass dismissing any suggestions that classical Egyptology may have some things incorrect.

Aianawa
16th August 2016, 20:42
Totally Modwiz, I grab the logical and intuitional answers and theory and await the universes next guidance.

lift the veil
16th August 2016, 20:53
The subduction of the Indian subcontinent should have caused a large increase in volcanic activity that would continue even into modern times. Compared to the "ring of fire" in the Pacific Tibet is volcanically dead. So how did the Indian subcontinent push under the Eurasian continent without melting? Must be some type of mystery.

No, it is not some type of mystery.

When subduction was occurring that consisted of oceanic crust being subducted underneath continental crust. That is when you had the early period of vulcanism. After all of the leading edge of the oceanic crust had been subducted, vulcanism ceased at (0:06), and then you had the Indian continent slamming into Asian continent. Continents are less dense than the mantle and will not subduct into it like oceanic crust does, thus they pile on top of each other, which is how you have the tallest (thickest) mountain chain forming on the Earth and the elevation the Tibetean Plateau at the same time. You do not have melting or vulcanism when you have continent/continent collision.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loFxYSHxTf0

modwiz
16th August 2016, 21:32
Posted below is something from Clif High from Half Past Human. It opened a new consideration for me and a consideration I am more at peace and resonance with than the classical model being insisted on by another poster in this thread. Give it a read and try it on for size.

Expando Planet Model


The Expando Planet model is a sub set of the Expando Universe model of reality to which we will return in a bit. We start with Einstein and the much discussed, debated, and hated, E=MC2 equation.

In Einstein, and Newtonian understanding of physics, energy transforms into matter and vice versa, so if you twist on uranium in just the right way with energy, it will transform a bunch of its own matter into energy very rapidly and thus we have nuclear plants and bombs based on this principle of 'exciting' the matter of uranium (and other radioactive elements) to convert to energy. Well...in this universe, equations work both ways, so theoretically we could take a bunch of energy and 'condense' it into matter (assuming we knew how). This matter could be as dense as version as we desired given that we are condensing it out of energy. So we would initially get simple molecules such as hydrogen and helium, but if we persisted, we could continue to coagulate the energy into denser molecules like oil, or iron, or gold. And thus is explained how the whole alchemy transmutation thing works. By condensation.

So, in the Expando Planet model, the continuous stream of energy from the Sun goes not only to the surface of the planets, but also to the center of the planets, where, given the correct conditions, and the existence of an active plasma core (Mars, as an aside, has none, and is therefore, a 'dead' planet), this energy is transmuted into matter. Note also that plasma is a great form of an 'energetic antenna' and actually (in laboratories) seems to draw energy to it via sympathetic resonance.

So some of the energies of the Sun hit the surface of the earth, but energy at levels we cannot detect without really really working at it, go to the center of the planet where they are condensed by that plasma environment into matter.

By the way, the plasma model would allow for a faster spinning core, AND a reducing magnetic field as the field strength is not dependent on size nor spin rate. And further the plasma core idea does fit with observable fluctuations in magnetic field strength over these nearly 12, 000 year cycles. And again, plasma core idea works with heat levels internal to the earth (lower you go, hotter it gets), as well as abiotic oil, and the creation of minerals as well as their location of deposits.

So, since magic likely is not how the core of the earth generates the magnetic field that we observe, it would seem more likely that the explanation is that the core of the earth is plasma. Plasma is highly excited energy, and does develop prodigious magnetic fields all out of proportion to its size. All of the observable magnetic effects on earth can be explained with the plasma core idea. Also, human experience with plasma fields and forms in laboratories provides observable evidence of the electro magnetic effects every bit as variant as seen on earth.

So, in the Expando Planet model of thinking about Earth, the plasma core gets energy steadily from the Sun and as a necessity, must convert this steady stream of energy into matter. Thus if the Expando Planet model is correct, one of the predictable effects would be that the planet would pretty much continuously grow. And that is also what observable, manifesting reality demonstrates. The Earth is slowly growing. Even mainstream science and mainstream media acknowledge this, though they never say why it should grow continuously if the core of the earth was actually iron. Oh well.... anyway, the plasma receives energy from the Sun at the core of the Earth, converts it to matter (e=mc2) and so then two logical questions then arise.....if energy is being transformed into matter in the middle of the earth, then where does it go? And....what happens to this whole matter creation mechanism if there is a sudden burst of energy from the Sun?

Mainstream science has always maintained that the planet grows slowly over time even without addressing why this should be the case. Further the whole point of the plate tectonic theory is 'propelled' by this idea of slow movement of the plates creeping about on liquid magma. Though against the idea of entropy, the cooling of the planet over time, and the rotation of the supposed iron core, the whole of the plate tectonic theory fails to hold up. Further, the presence of vast, previously unknown levels, of active volcanoes all across the planet does not support plate tectonics. Indeed, volcanoes are found even in places that the plate tectonic theory say should be subduction zones. So, to address the question of where does the continuously created matter go, we need only look around us. The matter quite actually 'bubbles' up out of, or as, the earth. And further, since it is created in the middle of an enclosed sphere (more or less, the earth is actually an oblate spheroid), the effects of matter created in the middle of a closed planet are naturally predictable. Imagine pumping water into an orange with a syringe.

Novusod
16th August 2016, 21:33
No, it is not some type of mystery.

When subduction was occurring that consisted of oceanic crust being subducted underneath continental crust. That is when you had the early period of vulcanism. After all of the leading edge of the oceanic crust had been subducted, vulcanism ceased, and then you had the Indian continent slamming into Asian continent. Continents are less dense than the mantle and will not subduct into it like oceanic crust does, thus they pile on top of each other, which is how you have the tallest (thickest) mountain chain forming on the Earth. You do not have melting or vulcanism when you have continent/continet collision.

Since when does subduction not cause vulcanism? Sounds like scientific back peddling to explain the mystery of the Himalayas. Why doesn't this occur anywhere else on Earth? You showed me a video that was completely false. Science always seems to be spinning new nonsense to cover up old lies. Mountains don't pile up without subsidence. Come on Geologist you know better than that. You are deliberately ignoring the basic principles of buoyancy. Upthrust must be equal to down thrust otherwise the plateau will subside into the mantel regardless of density.

Your science is wrong but just won't admit it.

lift the veil
16th August 2016, 22:11
Maybe you should actually pay attention to the video. Subduction ceases at :06 when all of the preceding oceanic crust is consumed. After that it is strictly continent/continent collision. No subduction of continental crust occurs. No more vulcanism. The continent is not consumed down into the mantle. Both continents float on top of the denser mantle. Yes, they pile up on top of each other and thicken but do not get consumed down into the mantle. Geology 101. Density 101. They float on top of the mantle. The science is not wrong. Your understanding of it is wrong.

Novusod
16th August 2016, 22:13
How the great tree may have supported its own weight: The Clark Orbit. Where centrifugal force cancels out the pull of gravity.

Notice where Arthor C Ckarke received his vision and the terminology "Jack and the bean stalk." The great tree would have functioned as a living space elevator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdr6zXXrTbg

lift the veil
16th August 2016, 22:48
Why doesn't this occur anywhere else on Earth? .

The vast majority of non-volcanic mountain ranges on the Earth are formed by continent/continent collision. The Appalachians are an example, there is currently no subduction off of the east coast, because after Africa slammed into the leading east edge of then North America, it left a piece of itself attached to it when it pulled away, creating a new East coast. The Appalachians are the suture between the two pieces of crust. After Africa pulled away, it created what is called a passive margin (no subduction) and grew into the Atlantic Ocean This is called continental accretion and is the process by how continents grow in size over time. Geology 101.

Here is a schematic. You see that once Africa hits the proto-east coast Figure E., subduction ceases along with the vulcanism and you have the accretion of new crust onto the leading edge of the old east coast. Growth of the continent.

http://fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect2/appal.jpg

Novusod
16th August 2016, 23:08
Maybe you should actually pay attention to the video. Subduction ceases at :06 when all of the preceding oceanic crust is consumed. After that it is strictly continent/continent collision. No subduction of continental crust occurs. No more vulcanism. The continent is not consumed down into the mantle. Both continents float on top of the denser mantle. Yes, they pile up on top of each other and thicken but do not get consumed down into the mantle. Geology 101. Density 101. They float on top of the mantle. The science is not wrong. Your understanding of it is wrong.

That is exactly where you are wrong. If subduction stops then the mountains would stop growing. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. For every billion tons of rock that is thrust up an equal and opposite mass of rock must be thrust down. If subduction stops then where is the equal and opposite force thrusting down coming from? The buoyancy equation has to balance. You have mountains thrusting up but nothing is nothing is thrusting down. Even counting horizontal trusting there would still have to be an equal and opposite down trust. The model you are presenting is completely false. Guess you didn't take physics 101 or slept through that class.

lift the veil
16th August 2016, 23:15
Mainstream science states that before the plateau rose up the ground was originally flat and should have had abundant fertile soil and much "alluvial materials." If the Plateau was pushed up from plate tectonics alone then the remnants of the old Alluvial plain (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alluvial_plain) should logically still be there. Billions/Trillions of tons of alluvial soils just don't disappear during periods of upthrust. There is something else going on.

The old alluvial plain was pushed up and it then became highlands, a plateau. The plateau then becomes the target of erosion, winds and weathering which transports sediment away. However not all of the soil is removed. Again it is still soil, and it is still there. The soil was originally sourced from the parent underlying granite crust. Not from a tree stump.

http://rukor.org/tibetan-earth-tibetan-soils/


TIBETAN EARTH, TIBETAN SOILS
Posted on January 31, 2015 by rukor-admin
from a small book of essays, poetry and art on the Soil and the Earth, edited by Vandana Shiva, celebrating the International Year of Soils, 2015

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That the soils of the Tibetan Plateau exist at all is remarkable. This vast island in the sky is, in planetary history, so new, so high and still rising skyward, so unconsolidated and prone to quake, so raked by gales and blizzards, it is a miracle that soil exists.

Yet the soils of the Tibetan Plateau sustain huge herds of migrating gazelles and antelopes, millions of yaks, sheep and goats cared for by nomadic pastoralists, and an entire Tibetan civilisation. Not only does a rich soil sustain life, the hardy grasses and sedges of the vast plateau pasture lands in turn protect the soils from the powerfully erosive forces of wind, snowstorms and intense cold. Neither permafrost below nor the sudden hailstorms from above disturb those soils, aerated by burrowing mammals, held together by the biomass of living plants, most of which is underground.

Tibetans have long known and respected the earth, and its innumerable local gods and spirits, which can cause earthquakes, landslides and floods if not treated with respect. Offerings are made daily to these local protectors, starting with a sprig of juniper put onto the morning fire to produce fragrant smoke.

The entire plateau is at an average altitude of 5000 metres in upper Tibet, in the arid west, and 4000 metres in the forested and wetter east; with the mountain ranges that enclose the plateau soaring far above. It is only on the mountain slopes that there is little or no soil, above the snowline. In Tibet the snowline is at 5000 metres, sometimes as much as 6000 metres, much higher than elsewhere, because Lhasa is no further from the equator than Shanghai, Mecca, Johannesburg, Tehran or Houston. Intense sun, intense inner continental winds, intense summer heating and winter cooling make for intensive erosion, so great that the entire yellow earths and Yellow River of northern China are the result of a Tibetan Plateau that erodes as fast as it uplifts. Yet despite these elemental forces, the soils sustain verdant alpine meadows for wild and domestic herds alike, and the millions of nomadic pastoralists who annually gather what nature provides.

Those soils regulate the flow of the great rivers of Asia, from Pakistan’s Indus, through Southeast Asia’s Mekong, to the Yangtze and Yellow of China. They absorb the summer monsoons and the icemelt from the glaciers in the snowmountain peaks, acting as a sponge that both soaks up and releases water through the year.

Across northernTibet there are no big rivers. This is a land of lakes, abodes of goddesses, slowly shrinking over recent millennia as the entire plateau becomes drier, only to start rising again very recently, due to climate change accelerating the melting of the glaciers.

Wetland soils are common, great peaty marshlands where migratory birds nest and feed, reeds grow thickly and yaks tread delicately tussock to tussock, fattening on the rich herbage. Hard ungulate hoofs seldom compact these springy soils, because the nomadic pastoralists know well that grazing must be done with a light touch, always moving the herd on well before the grass is exhausted. A mobile civilisation was guarantor of healthy soil and the protective plant cover.


That is exactly where you are wrong. If subduction stops then the mountains would stop growing. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. For every billion tons of rock that is thrust up an equal and opposite mass of rock must be thrust down. If subduction stops then where is the equal and opposite force thrusting down coming from? The buoyancy equation has to balance. You have mountains thrusting up but nothing is nothing is thrusting down. Even counting horizontal trusting there would still have to be an equal and opposite down trust. The model you are presenting is completely false. Guess you didn't take physics 101 or slept through that class.

You are completely clueless. The CONTINENTS ARE STILL COLLIDING after subduction ceseases. Subuction = consumption of oceanic crust. No more oceanic crust= cessation of subduction. The continents however are still being pushed against each other, hence COLLISION = MOUNTAIN BUILDING!!! The INDIAN CONTINENT IS STILL COLLIDING INTO ASIA , WHICH IS WHY THE HIMALAYAN MOUNTAINS ARE STILL GROWING TODAY!!!!!!

GEOLOGY101

lift the veil
16th August 2016, 23:25
Here you go skippy, it is not me just making crap up.

http://www.livescience.com/43220-subduction-zone-definition.html


If the same kind of crust collides, such as continent-continent, the plates may crash together without subducting and crumple together like crashing cars. The massive Himalaya mountain chain was created this way, when India slammed into Asia.

Oh and by the way smarty pants I did take calculus based physics I and II.

Novusod
16th August 2016, 23:34
The vast majority of non-volcanic mountain ranges on the Earth are formed by continent/continent collision. The Appalachians are an example, there is currently no subduction off of the east coast, because after Africa slammed into the leading east edge of then North America, it left a piece of itself attached to it, creating a new East coast. The Appalachians are the suture between the two pieces of crust. After Africa pulled away, it created what is called a passive margin (no subduction) and grew into the Atlantic Ocean This is called continental accretion and is the process by how continents grow in size over time. Geology 101.

Here is a schematic. You see that once Africa hits the proto-east coast Figure E., subduction ceases along with the vulcanism and you have the accretion of new crust onto the leading edge of the old east coast. Growth of the continent.


The Appalachian mountains used to be connected to the Atlas mountains in Africa but they were on divergent plates. There was no subduction because the continents were pulling away from each other. Yes this can form mountains but the issue with this is the Himalayas were not caused by divergent plates. The formation of the Appalachians is the complete opposite of that is happening with the Indian subcontinent. The Appalachians have more in common with the mid Atlantic ridge then they do the Himalayas.

lift the veil
16th August 2016, 23:53
The Appalachian mountains used to be connected to the Atlas mountains in Africa but they were on divergent plates. There was no subduction because the continents were pulling away from each other. Yes this can form mountains but the issue with this is the Himalayas were not caused by divergent plates. The formation of the Appalachians is the complete opposite of that is happening with the Indian subcontinent. The Appalachians have more in common with the mid Atlantic ridge then they do the Himalayas.

Did you even bother to look at the schematic of a geology explanation of the Appalachian mountains? I am not making this up. Subduction occurs from Figure A to D. You can see Africa in figure D approaching/converging upon the then East coast.

Between D and E, Africa has collided into America, and later it then pulls away/diverges and leaves a new East Coast, hence the rusults in figure E.

From A-D convergence/subduction.
E - Subuction ceased, continent/continent collision caused the accretion of new land on East coast, Africa has pulled away/diverges and creates the Atlantic Ocean.

The creation of the Appalachian mountains formed in the same way as the Himilayian mountains, convergent continent/continent collision. The only difference is that Africa is still not pushing into American, it later pulled away. India on the other hand is still pushing into Asia, which is why the Himalayan mountains are still growing.





http://fas.org/irp/imint/docs/rst/Sect2/appal.jpg

Novusod
16th August 2016, 23:54
You are completely clueless. The CONTINENTS ARE STILL COLLIDING after subduction ceseases. Subuction = consumption of oceanic crust. No more oceanic crust= cessation of subduction. The continents however are still being pushed against each other, hence COLLISION = MOUNTAIN BUILDING!!! The INDIAN CONTINENT IS STILL COLLIDING INTO ASIA , WHICH IS WHY THE HIMALAYAN MOUNTAINS AR STILL GROWING TODAY!!!!!!

GEOLOGY101

Here you go skippy, it is not me just making crap up.

http://www.livescience.com/43220-subduction-zone-definition.html

Oh and by the way smarty pants I did take calculus based physics I and II.

I never doubted you were making things up. You are parroting everything from the textbooks as expected. I just think those text books are wrong and nobody has gumption to correct them. What you quoted is completely wrong. What is holding the mountains up? If one billion tons of rock are thrust up into mountain formation then how many tons of rock have to be trust down to support that formation. Where is the math? Oh wait there is none.

I think we will just have to agree to disagree at this point.

BTW: your schematic never loaded.

lift the veil
17th August 2016, 00:01
I never doubted you were making things up. You are parroting everything from the textbooks as expected. I just think those text books are wrong and nobody has gumption to correct them. What you quoted is completely wrong. What is holding the mountains up? If one billion tons of rock are thrust up into mountain formation then how many tons of rock have to be trust down to support that formation. Where is the math? Oh wait there is none.

I think we will just have to agree to disagree at this point.

So do you think there is just air underneath the continent????? No there are tons and tons and tons and tons of dense thick mantle underneath holding up the crust

The math is there.

The crust is a thin layer atop a very thick dense mantle.

under the Himalayas, crustal thickness reach 50-70km

The mantle is about 2,900 kilometers thick.

Oh my gosh, why doesn't' a heavy battleship sink????? Because there is lots of ocean for it to float upon!

BTW: i have no problem seeing the schematic of the Appalachian mountains, even when I am not logged in.

And don't worry I will no longer argue with you on this thread as you obviously have no understanding of basic geology.

Novusod
17th August 2016, 00:48
It is funny how this theory, and it is a theory only, has seemed to create division form some quarters. I refuse to participate in it. There is nothing to defend when playing with an idea that one is not insisting on its credulity. The flat Earthers have proved to be a rather shrill group that calls non-believes shills. Now we have science poking fun at people entertaining a possible other explanation for some things. Basically, insisting they are right, as if they are nor relying on others for their information. The religion of science has many adherents. Much like Zawi Hawass dismissing any suggestions that classical Egyptology may have some things incorrect.

Indeed modwiz I am just playing with an idea here to see how far it will go and where it takes me. I am NOT fully committed to believing the Tibetan plateau is a giant tree stump. There is a lot of mythology surrounding the area. Myths of Shangri-La, gateways to underworld, Dali-Lama mysticism, folk religions, and even the elite seem to venerate Tibet for some reason. It is a place many go to seek true enlightenment. I learned about the geology behind mountain formation 20 years ago but it never sat right with me. It always seemed wrong there were no volcanoes in Tibet. After watching "There are no forests on Earth" video it only revived my long term skepticism of geology.

Jengelen
17th August 2016, 14:00
This one rocked me! I mean really kept me up fantasizing about dreams I've had of living up in trees, floating in trees, being in tree leaves, and mist and fog. I can't tell you how many things about this rocked me but regardless of what you think of the accent, just watch, follow best you can. When it gets to the heat of the argument it really hits home! Unreal! I just can't even describe at the moment the last few days thoughts! All good, but wow! Just wow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUU19QNOSjU

Jengelen
17th August 2016, 18:14
The ancient writings say there was a 'firmament' above and that it was the reason there was 2.1 atmospheres of pressure on earth or something such as that. May have been 2.8 but the point is there was more pressure then and gravity was different enough to allow a lizard to grow four stories tall and a dragon fly to have a wing span of three feet!! These just two examples of course.

Now lets imagine for a second the story of how the 'firmament came down' and how it happened with roaring thunder and loud booms! Everything we have ever thought is meteor!

What if that is wrong? Lets suppose for a moment there were trees that tall. They had a lot of water content! That water if they were that tall was up there! High up there and my guess is it was misty cloudy as all get out up there with soaking wet clouds all the darn time! Now imagine that a solar flare did scorch earth! It came down and instantly converted all the carbon to silicon, something proven in plasma physics by the way, and did this in minutes because there is plenty enough electrical current to do that. And once we accept that this can happen because indeed in a lab organisms can be fossilized with electrical current as per Thunderbolts Project data, then we conclude that in this type of plasma discharge the hydrogen in the water molecule was converted to fuel and the after effect of this entire exchange is the limestone matrix holding all the fossils in place. That limestone used to be water! My entire area here is a giant shallow ocean of limestone with corral, shells, fish and sand organisms of all kinds frozen right here six inches down.

So if the firmament was organic carbon based life and the carbon was converted to silicon that water weight is now stone and its coming down in a roaring thunder and we lose that pressure we once had and behold, nothing larger than a giraffe can live on earth after because we are apparently 20,000 times less volume than we were before the firmament came down! Now all organic life cannot fully express itself or live as long or be as healthy. Nor can we heal as fast because we no longer have the same mix of CO2 or Oxygen and we don't even have forests really! That fell! Those trees provided canopy that was the firmament mentioned in the bible. That is my theory.

EDIT to add another thought: This discovery brings new questions to the religious and to those that believe in God because if this is an experiment its a second or perhaps mulit-generational experiment and we are but one phase of it! And if this true one has to wonder the true agenda of the very physical beings that created this world! Perhaps its to strip mine it in quarry after quarry until it is all but depleted just to fry everything organic and carbon based again and fill the earth back up with gem and minerals they can mine made from all of us! So we are the gem and mineral mine that the gods create! They simply plasma torch the crap out of us now and then and our entire bodies fossilize! So they come down after this I guess and pull our our organs which are now all various mulit colored gems of great beauty! We're nothing but a product! How is that for humbling!!

The trees were carbon that was converted by enough electrical current to silicon! They were not always silicon trees! The limestone matrix holding all these fossils used to be water! The hydrogen molecule in a plasma discharge of this type necessary to pack neutrons comes from lightning but also sun flares and if sun flares reached out scorching the earth well, it would if enough current was there in minutes convert all the carbon life forms to fossilized stone just as it says in the bible actually. Not that I believe the bible but the point is there are cases documented now of high tension high voltage power lines falling on fallen live tree limbs that were alive trees five years before they were discovered and once found someone had felled part of the live tree so a limb separated from the live part fell on the cables! That fallen limb and root system all were fully fossilized stone when the power company crew came to remove it from the cable! Look it up. It happened in Canada. One of the technicians wrote it up under the name Eric Morton or Molten as I recall. These fossils do not have to be millions of years old based on the new plasma theory discoveries which have led to people being able to turn organic things into gem quality minerals for a price. This fully explains the anomalous finds such as tire rims and spark plugs and other such things as wires found in coal and stone quite well! It can also be duplicated in a lab! His theory of silicon trees is way off! They were carbon life forms!

Novusod
18th August 2016, 15:33
I have seen the before but I just came across this quote by Upton Sinclair:
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

This applies to just about everything wrong with the human race right now. The financialization of lives has ruined everything. When the powers that be stop paying people to lie for a living the truth will come out.

Jengelen
18th August 2016, 16:16
The world before the flood! Short but good info.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFiDYDfbGjY

Novusod
20th August 2016, 03:53
This has got to be a mighty big coincidence. This video was just uploaded on the 16th by a mainstream media sponsored YouTube Channel called Sci-Show.

Silicon-Based Life: Could Living Rocks Exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQCrrPohyts

Studies from Harvard, NASA, and National Geographic suggest the possibility of silicon based life existing on other planets and possibly on Earth as a shadow biosphere. All these studies are being pushed just after the video "There are no Forests on Earth" went viral.

Either we are being played or the MSM is doing damage control. Hard to tell which at this point.

Novusod
23rd August 2016, 18:46
Look at this strange artifact from Pre-Columbian Mexico. Is it a "cargo cult" interpretation of an ancient mining machine? Certainly looks like it.

http://i.imgur.com/K1k7odH.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmadjYPtho

modwiz
23rd August 2016, 21:55
Look at this strange artifact from Pre-Columbian Mexico. Is it a "cargo cult" interpretation of an ancient mining machine? Certainly looks like it.

http://i.imgur.com/K1k7odH.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmadjYPtho

Great find. Looks like what it is to me. Just with better aesthetics.

Novusod
24th August 2016, 01:47
Great find. Looks like what it is to me. Just with better aesthetics.

Thanks modwiz. Having such a close find opens up other competing possibilities and more questions. Why are modern engineers designing machines that so closely resemble machines that existed in the past? A double wheeled excavator seems like a unique engineering solution. Technology developed independently and separated by thousands of years could be similar but not that similar. Are our modern day engineers divinely inspired or even the reincarnated souls of the ancient engineers. Thinking too deeply about how to solve a problem could lead to mining of the akashic records of past lives.

The other possibility is shamans in the past having visions of the future from drinking Ayahuasca. The shamans see our modern day equipment and then make little totems based on what they saw in their Ayahuasca vision.

Here is another piece of evidence though that may solidify the theory. The Aswan Obelisk in Egypt:

http://i.imgur.com/b1pMYog.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4RFkZ1Q.jpg

This kind of machine could produce those famous grooves and dig out the Obelisk in a few days time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0fr27P1tuw

Novusod
28th October 2016, 05:46
I came across this rare political cartoon from 100 years ago. They like to hide the truth right in front of our faces and assume we won't understand.

It is not about oil.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ba/f6/ea/baf6ea26d3d35ae739a837e34343d831.jpg

Aianawa
28th October 2016, 05:55
Wow, in a way that annoys me a wee bit.

Aianawa
1st November 2016, 06:21
Thanks modwiz. Having such a close find opens up other competing possibilities and more questions. Why are modern engineers designing machines that so closely resemble machines that existed in the past? A double wheeled excavator seems like a unique engineering solution. Technology developed independently and separated by thousands of years could be similar but not that similar. Are our modern day engineers divinely inspired or even the reincarnated souls of the ancient engineers. Thinking too deeply about how to solve a problem could lead to mining of the akashic records of past lives.

The other possibility is shamans in the past having visions of the future from drinking Ayahuasca. The shamans see our modern day equipment and then make little totems based on what they saw in their Ayahuasca vision.

Here is another piece of evidence though that may solidify the theory. The Aswan Obelisk in Egypt:

http://i.imgur.com/b1pMYog.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4RFkZ1Q.jpg

This kind of machine could produce those famous grooves and dig out the Obelisk in a few days time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0fr27P1tuw

Seems so obvious now, thankyou. Feel our bigger researchers, Handcock etc are unaware of this , yes ?.

Novusod
24th January 2017, 04:48
Here is a new perspective on the Tree theory I am working on.

This is the old Earth as seen from space. The tree didn't stand at the North Pole. It was on the equator. During the day the tree blocked out the sun but still let some light in. Then during the night the tree reflected light back onto the Earth. Because the tree was bigger than the Earth's shadow there was no night time.
http://i.imgur.com/DLa2RDk.jpg

This is similar to the Tolkien age of the trees myth.
http://i.imgur.com/rTAGcye.jpg

In the words of Tolkien:

One "day" lasted twelve hours. Each Tree, in turn, would give off light for seven hours (waxing to full brightness and then slowly waning again), so that at one hour each of "dawn" and "dusk" soft gold and silver light would be given off together.

Aianawa
25th January 2017, 08:02
Interesting to digest, always have that feeling, if any truth in these things, how could so many learned people over time have missed this.

Aianawa
24th April 2017, 20:28
Looks like the original video got pulled down but there is a mirror here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObJL6aA2czo

Another bible quote:

Ezekiel 17:24 - "And all the trees of the field shall know that I the Lord have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the Lord have spoken and have done it.”

Some passages from the Vedic Texts:
http://i.imgur.com/TrLt36v.jpg


So in the Vedic literature there were 4 giant trees each 8,800km tall that produced fruits the size elephants and rivers of nectar that could grant near immortality.

Sounds a bit like tree of life mentioned in Genesis 3:22.

Also maybe the elites are trying to tell us something.
http://i.imgur.com/d5WjxtZ.jpg

Come 2017, this aspect still astounds me, a bump to reflect.

Amanda
26th April 2017, 01:16
There is the artwork that depicts the 'Blue Skinned People' - it is a bit of a theme depending on where a person looks - and - how critically a person thinks when looking. Depicted in ancient texts such as the one above and the movie Avatar and mentioned within ancient texts. Is this a drip feed - to see how deeply mesmerised the masses are and to test the drip feed management system?

Blue Skinned People have been depicted and written of often - as often as there are images of the Standing Stones???

Much Respect - Amanda

Aianawa
26th April 2017, 23:51
Mmmmmmm or is it natural disclousure, imo we live in times of both or many disclosure ways, most natural, some premeditated