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Maggie
8th April 2016, 20:20
IMO it makes NO sense that we could have ideals of a world in which to live that cannot be created. Our perfect experience like all of everything material starts in thought. PERIOD.

"We’ve all heard the phrase “thoughts are things.” And while many may believe this idea has merit, what if you could actually see your thoughts forming right before you? According to out of body expert William Buhlman, we can. In fact he says not only can we witness our thoughts taking form, we can manifest our reality through thought in the out of body state.
The idea of utilizing self initiated OBE’s to manifest is an angle that William says he’s never covered on air before, that is until now. Listen in as he reveals another dimension to out of body experiences and how we can put the power of creation completely within our hands."

How to Manifest from the Out of Body State with William Buhlman
Posted by Higher Journeys Radio

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Ken Elliot is a friend of William Buhlman
WilliamBuhlman explained for Ken why "The Secret" of manifestation works. He had his own experience with seeing how thought creates.
He authored Manifestation 123 and you don't need 3

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Here is something of what Buhlman has observed ordinary objects in physical reality have etheric counterparts extending one or more layers beyond the physical. (http://mysticalwonk.blogspot.com/2010/10/creation-manifestation-part-2.html)


Author William Buhlman originally held the common perspective that all reality is encompassed in the material universe. He held no notion that life extends beyond the physical. However, when he began having OBEs he was stunned to discover a multi-layered reality that extends toward infinity. His explorations confirmed that ordinary objects in physical reality have etheric counterparts extending one or more layers beyond the physical. He also found that the higher energy planes are extremely responsive to thought, and eventually concluded that all physical reality originated as thought.

The following excerpts are from William Buhlman’s “Adventures Beyond the Body”:

“I made several startling observations. First, we assume that our physical surroundings are the stable and firm basis of reality. We view density and form as the ultimate test of ‘real’. But what if we are wrong in our assumptions? What if reality is completely relative to the vibratory rate of the observer?

“Matter is not the center of reality as we view it. Instead, reality appears to be the end result of a series of energy interactions occurring in the unseen dimensions. With each out-of-body experience I realized more clearly that matter is only a tiny portion of the energy environments that exist.”

Speaking of an OBE where a huge engine in an ethereal 'museum' transformed into a brilliant source of light, Buhlman says


“I suddenly understand that I am the engine of my life – I’m the creative force within me…For the first time I realize that I can create whatever reality I choose – my creative power is beyond my comprehension. I now know that I have limited myself by the ideas and beliefs I accepted, and I recognize the need to release all my limits, fears, and expectations.”

Buhlman goes into great detail on his many explorations, and includes his ideas on how physical matter is simply the outer crust of a vast energy substrate composed of intricate structure.

Cearna
9th April 2016, 01:26
Maggie I am not able to watch videos, so I am very grateful for your description of what this is about. This is about manifesting, and at the moment Seth is with me for other reasons, so I am going to ask him to give his thought on this topic to you, since it is one of the subjects he goes into details about. colleen xxxxxx

Maggie
9th April 2016, 02:04
Cearna/Colleen, thanks for the reply.

For those who can access videos, these are IMO really pithy! Ideas like these encourage me to take responsibility for the trial and error of mastery of the creative process.
I found an interesting list from William Buhlman.


In addition to self-distortions, many inner explorers operate under a
series of false assumptions; some assume that the three-dimensional
forms they encounter are always an objective reality. This assumption
is a serious error for all form-based structures are but the humble
vehicle, tool and creation of consciousness.

The blind acceptance of
form as a valid reality adds another layer to our self-deception. To
become effective inner explorers we must become discerning and
recognize that we are always interacting with the temporary energy
vehicles of conscious. Every life form, structure and drama in every
dimension is a tool and expression of consciousness. I always
question and authenticate the life forms and realities I encounter.

Every year I receive many questions and I am sometimes unable to
respond. I thought the following may be helpful. I don't claim to
have all the answers but I do know a few things from trial and error.
The following perceptions are the result of my out-of body
experiences and they have greatly assisted me in my personal
explorations. I question everything and assume nothing. I have found
that all assumptions, all three dimensional and linear concepts and
our own form-based self-concepts are serious anchors to our progress.
The following are my personal reality precepts - please accept or
reject as you feel fit.

1) I am pure consciousness. I possess no form or three-dimensional
structure. I have the ability to manifest and use countless different
energy forms for my expression and education. I realize I am not
humanoid or any other crude form-based concept. My self-concept is
formless, however, I can manifest any outer vehicle of form that I
focus upon.

2) I am immortal, creative and powerful; nothing seen or unseen can
harm me or block my path.

3) I shape, mold and interpret all realities. I create my reality
both in and out of body. I accept complete personal responsibility
for my energy creations.

4) I am the creative writer, director and actor in every reality.
Consciousness uses form like a master puppeteer.

5) I possess no eyes and perceive with my mind. The form-based
realities I encounter are interpreted by my mind. I actively color,
shape and mold my perceptions of reality. My consciousness is highly
interactive with all energies and my natural perception is 360
degrees.

6) I can only truly know something based upon my personal experience.
The key to self-knowledge is to expand my experiences, not my beliefs.

7) I possess no limits; I can move, expand and express my conscious
awareness without limit. I realize that I create the limits or blocks
that I experience, so I have the power to confront and dissolve them
now.

8) I allow, encourage and expect accelerated spiritual growth and
inner cleansing. I am completely open to extreme and intense inner
experiences. There are no limits. To the best of my ability I remain
open to experience radical, rapid change and growth. Mental
stagnation, beliefs and rigid thought are not an option.

9) I demand to experience my Higher Self whenever possible. I expect
immediate results and clear answers now! As much as possible I
surrender to my Higher Self, my inner guidance. I trust my Higher
Self for I am my guide.

10) I experience and navigate the entire multidimensional universe
within myself. External motion and forms are unnecessary. The
expressway to self-knowledge and self-realization is within me.

11) To the best of my ability I remain detached and neutral to all
the energies I encounter, mold and create. I remain an objective,
dispassionate observer of the unfolding imagery, concepts, forms and
dramas that I experience.

12) All of my perception and mobility issues, challenges and blocks
are self-created. I am the creative force in all my experiences and I
enhance/upgrade my state of consciousness regularly and
often; "Awareness Now!" is my inner mantra.

13) I have found all man-made beliefs to be seriously flawed and
distorted. I reject them all. I either know something or I don't, I
have no need for more mental baggage. I guard the gates of my mind
with extreme care.

14) All form-based realities are temporary energy structures. Form is
created and shaped by consciousness and act as vehicles, tools and
expressions of consciousness. I look within and past the outer shell
of form for answers. All form is a shell game of consciousness.

15) OBEs are natural and essential for my spiritual growth. My
conscious OBEs dramatically accelerate my personal spiritual growth.
I expect spiritual, mind-expanding OBEs!

16) I accept and encourage all inner cleansing experiences no matter
what the energy manifestation or interpretation; water, fire, heat,
light, vacuum, incineration.

17) I remain open and flexible between conscious mental control and
my inner spiritual autopilot. I surrender to the guidance of my
Higher Self when I know it is right for me.

18) I seek the answers deep inside myself and not within the external
astral and physical worlds or any form-based façade of reality.

19) The key to initiating conscious OBEs is my daily persistent
focused positive intention. I am open and expect new and enlightening
experiences both in and out of body. I expect fully conscious and
insightful OBEs now.

20) Attempting to comprehend and navigate the multidimensional
universe using any man-made conclusion, belief system, book or
assumption as a guide leads only to extreme self-delusion, blocks and
deception.

21) True reality and answers exist beyond the existence of crude
three dimensional energy forms. I seek the truth - not the dense
reflection of it. To uncover the truth of my existence beyond the
facade of form, I must enter the higher realities deep within me.

22) The key to accurate perception and answers is to clean my lens/
my mind so it is free and clean from distorted belief induced imagery
and self-deception.

23) The answers are always present; it is I that creates and
maintains my blocks. I take full responsibility for my life and my
experiences both in and out of my body.

24) I accept, embrace and enjoy the vibrational state and all the
associated OBE related energy phenomena. I court it; I allow it to
expand through every layer of my being. I love it.

25) The external worlds both in and out of body provide dramas
designed for my education. I always dig for the reason and purpose
behind my experience.

26) The lighter I am, the faster and farther I travel. I realize that
I create and maintain the blocks I experience. I jettison everything,
all unconfirmed ideas, beliefs and conclusions. I refuse to be a
mental slave to others people's crap.

27) I demand "Awareness Now!" or "Clarity Now!" often and I expect
immediate results. I consciously magnify and intensify my intentions.
I know I possess unlimited creative power and expect instant results
and clear answers. Every request and demand I make is focused in the
now.

28) I can easily avoid disruptive issues, entities or any
manifestation of energy by moving inward within myself, "Inward Now!"
I am the inner highway for my consciousness.

29) Now is the focal point of all creation. My access to immense
creative power dwells within me now. I focus on the now for I create
and manipulate my reality in the present conscious moment. I have the
ability to navigate, explore and observe the entire timeline;
however, the present moment is the only valid reality.

30) I confront and confirm the authenticity of all life forms and all
realities I encounter; I assume nothing and question everything.

31) I realize I must jettison all my mental judgments; this includes
all the human concepts I take for granted including good and evil,
ugly and beautiful, right and wrong. True reality contains no
opposites, no judgments.

32) I aggressively examine and purge all non-confirmed conclusions,
concepts, ideas, and beliefs from my mind. I have deleted every
belief I used to embrace.

33) I recognize the importance of transcending all external modes and
methods of perception and this includes the powerful perception tool
of my mind. This is essential in order to truly experience objective
reality and my Higher Self.

34) I have found it helpful to maintain a detailed OBE and dream
journal. It helps to condition and open my mind to accept and
experience multiple realities.

35) I accept and embrace non-form-based realities. I accept
consciousness/ spirit without form as reality.

36) Confronting and dissolving the energy manifestations of my own
fears, limits and blocks is an essential element of my spiritual
growth. There are no bad or negative out-of-body experiences, only
energy manifestations I don't currently comprehend.

37) I do not waste my energy or time promoting my perceptions of
reality. I change the world when I change me. My perceptions of
reality will change with my state of consciousness. I realize that
only those of us that know from personal experience will see and
understand.

These basic perceptions have served me well for decades. In fact it
took me two decades to even begin to comprehend the staggering
creative power we possess. Each of us has an important choice; we can
internalize a host of man-made crap and play the great form-based
shell game or we can decide to move inward and experience reality. I
have found the countless worlds of form to be an immense multi-
layered maze of deception, if you truly desire answers it is
essential to go beyond the form-based realities. The interaction with
and interpretation of form-based projections is an interesting game
that has held our attention for countless lifetimes. Ultimately this
fascinating shell game becomes old and we are drawn inward beyond the
dense facade for the answers. I know there is many that believe they
can solve the great reality puzzle with the power of their mind. I
used to believe this as well. Now I feel that charting and analyzing
the astral world is akin to charting the three dimensions of moving
water; thought responsive realities are always in a state of flux. I
have moved on.

I would encourage everyone to make his or her own reality exploration
list. The very process of writing your own list can be mind expanding.
Newsletter from William Buhlman – 15 Feb 2007 (http://forum.astralsight.com/index.php?/topic/3266-newsletter-from-william-buhlman/)

Cearna
9th April 2016, 04:07
Bad Cells is my inner role on this. The begifted Lords of Gods do not like to see, a beginner on the Path of Life, being given this kind of information. We begin in no role whatsoever, and end totally unprepared for some inner role like this. Not even I am allowed to be a Ceator God. Only few ever were given this oldest of tasks. To clear a beginning of a New Age, one God Above was sent to dear Earth set free of old dead stories of old dead ages gone by, and she was soon trapped by some mind dead beings of Gods, who were in a role like you are, and at the end of their life, decided, I am now so clever that all life now belongs to me, and they set themselves up as the only ones who knew what life was all about.

They began in Roles like Lords of gifts to themselves of names now being used to shed Light on what Life need to be like. These are some of them, that you will know possibly, Ra, Horus, Isis, Thoth, Tolec, Zeuse, Tolomy, Mercury, Saturn, I am that I am, Allah, Buddha, Confuscious, Satan, Lucifer, Casius of rome. Now who links to all of these is the so called Masters of the eminent, so called Right to know, who soon live in your mind as some inordinate being of Light, some male some female. Now when in role of a best one of knowing, like Ra, they are then in the role of a giver of knowledge to some one in a body, who so called channells this Light wisdom to all as down payment to your worth to them.

These are some who in olden day who did not fear their known Life, and are thus solid in fact - Arkenaten - the Aten is a real God, Wodin and Freja - son Thor gave us the right knowledge, Mary of God, whose story is wontonly stolen to use in Christian beliefs. In Ra's time she began as the God of the Hebrews and never worked other than as Mary of God, for several thousands of years, and she is who taught a Hebrew what to do and not to do, and it was she whose tablets were sold on the open market as the Ten Laws of God , she held this position - a God dearly loved by me lives Above and Beyond and in my inner rose, and this is her name in life now since she is back to set free the whole human race. As emissary to God her real name is now Rose of God. She it is who told me the story I hold dear to this day. Another of her roles was Joan of Arc, and another the Lady of Lourdes, and Portugal' lady and the lady of Maggiiagore. Most others are mainly fake.

Now to my story - but for now, this is being typed straight on to this thread, so I will stop here in case some gets lost from taking too long to write. (Sorry about the spelling)

Cearna
9th April 2016, 09:22
Cont.Summing up, the evangelical masters told dear beloved and so on, toss all that crap out, this is now the work or evil intent to harm. If it is told to you, then bin it, here is why. These are words English gents used to start off sermons, against the best of all servants of Gods, and none of it rings of any Truths, so let's here no more of your role as gentle folk, who simply toe the line, and give yourself a better lots of stories about get to Gods, for these days the story is get to the ET's and higher up's to learn to begin in the true spirit of love.

Get real, begin in live your True Self. You are not orders of nuns, or priests who want to manifest love and charity towards the poor. Your are working life, not close to God, unless you began as one, you are not able to live in the role as one, but you are able to live in the role as a true believer in Everlasting Life, for I am now 20 Thousand or more years old, and your servant, want to know who someone is who is even more old than I am and that is Ester of God, who is 70 thousand years old and your candidate to own an even more illustrious age is Cearna of the Danaan, who are your Celts and she is as old as Earth itself and even older than that, so if gifts of God abound, don't think you are that old, you are all only as beginners to us, so please begin and not think open life is any more than than your solid in role apprenticeship.

When rostered to get to be on Earth, you and all the rest are some one's silent other, who on invite to come into open life, must first earn a begilded gift of your very own soul. You do not automatically have one, nor are you supposed to clear yourself of your soul links to the cost of fear. For fear begins in your own Soul-less State, and you are not and never will be a go-creator of God' eternal gifts to your own gifts. However, you are supposed to live in roles that will instil upon you the right to be given the right to earn a Soul, if and when you begin to give your role life to a mere start on your journey, and start is the operative word.

Stop listening to give yourself endless upgrades to reach heights of fearsome dimensional reaches above, these are only in the minds of ET's who have been invited to listen to their own Demon Gods to consider themselves to be more than all others are, and so claim the right to endless final life in some nirvana which is just some final end in a solitary existence, for want of a better word - death, for there is no soul in any ET's except the Danaan worlds of the Plaeides, Andromedda and the rest of that group. They are more so advanced than those on Earth except for those wh resettled here in australia, Native America and Canada as far down as the Hopi nation, and the islands of grater Hawaii, and Ireland, Wales, Scotland the Norse lands over as far as what could be called white Russia. These are your advanced peoples - no European began as civilised people, they are Neanderthal progeny, half Danaan, half bear.



Next bit, I will tell you how you can live more productive lives by manifesting your own reality in your own lives. In the mean time read collen words given to her by real Gods for the most part, except the ones from the Angel Michael, who was a fraud. these words are Soul Truths, I know I used to teach uin many, many other lifetimes, this time she was too advanced for me to teach her any more. Love Seth.

Maggie
9th April 2016, 15:46
To clear a beginning of a New Age, one God Above was sent to dear Earth set free of old dead stories of old dead ages gone by, and she was soon trapped by some mind dead beings of Gods, who were in a role like you are, and at the end of their life, decided, I am now so clever that all life now belongs to me, and they set themselves up as the only ones who knew what life was all about.


To clarify....who is speaking to whom?

jonsnow
9th April 2016, 17:50
excellent video 10/10:)

Maggie
10th April 2016, 04:50
Colleen,

I have read alot of material from Jane Robert's SETH. It was just a name she gave the consciouness. It could have been another name? Is the "Seth" you are invoking considered to be related?

I have been thinking for years that we all channel. I ask a question and often I seem to get a reply and sometimes the reply is from within. Sometime it comes through synchronicity of information.

Recently since 2006, I have been exploring my own manifestation intentions. I must admit what I create looks horrid at times. It especially looks bad when I feel depressed. However, I cannot believe any longer that I am effect of some arbitrary cause that has nothing to do with me. Actually the only complaint I have about my reality personally is that it seems like endless processing of sh*&e and it is also true that from a very early age I believed I needed to be processing "trauma". So this is valdidation that yes, I did intend to have loads of experience secondary to a need to process this belief in trauma.

I find endless amusement at the multiversal response to my every wish and desire even when I refuse to have wonderful and nice and easy and that is my sincere truth. I have a deep knowing that anything is possible. Is anything probable? This is the big deal...making my probable more extended into the variety of here to fore not experienced possible hehe!!

I feel deeply connected to the archetype of "Our Lady" by every name and here in duality a comforter and also very organic as Gaia and also very powerful to lend assistance. I love feeling Her, loving Her and being full of Thanks Giving for Her company. She would never stand in the way of my power or development in whatever way it evolves. She likes it. She supports it. She loves me. I love Her always and I can only be grateful. I don't think it matters that I may have imagined her...I doubt She would mind that, being who she seems to be and YET??? I do sometimes marvel at WHO IS THIS WHO RELATES TO ME? She is real enough for practical purpose and present.

Your Seth does not seem the same as Jane Roberts.
These are SETH (http://www.quantumisland.com/Seth.html) statements below:

http://www.quantumisland.com/Seth_files/shapeimage_1.png

jonsnow
10th April 2016, 06:57
I have listen to Seth ( I bought her tapes ) and she speaks of the good of vaccines after that I deleted all her tapes . The danger of vaccines are scary and she or it the channel is speaking for them.:(

Maggie
10th April 2016, 07:21
I have listen to Seth ( I bought her tapes ) and she speaks of the good of vaccines after that I deleted all her tapes . The danger of vaccines are scary and she or it the channel is speaking for them.:(

I went to a Joe Dispenza seminar and met a woman named Carolyn who had been practicing SERIOUSLY practicing Abraham Hicks ideas for many years.She was regarded as being someone (by her companions) who walked the Abraham teachings well.

Vaccines scare me and I talked to her about how I had left nursing over mandatory vaccinations.

Her story was that she had started participating in a wellness program (conventional) and when the nurse practitioner insisted she get a flu shot, she did because she felt that if it would make the NP feel better,why not? It would not effect her.

I still feel scared of vaccines and will never receive one until it no longer bothers me. As far as I can know, it WOULD effect me as I believe it will. I recall very significantly that after a flu shot, I had something like narcolepsy for months. I would get so sleepy even in heavy traffic. It was dangerous.

Could I change my belief?

I don't know what you heard but maybe SETH did not advocate vaccination so much as say it is a collective idea people have agreed (some not) is important. I can vouch for the fact that some people are terrified by the dangers of communicable disease.
In many ways it is not all or nothing. I don't know about why MANY of the native Americans died when exposed to European disease? Would vaccinations have helped? I don't know? I just know I will not be vaccinated at this time.

I am adament only about our right to choose for ourselves and children.

This is something SETH said about "health" (https://existentialmedicine.wordpress.com/extract-from-%E2%80%98the-way-toward-health%E2%80%99-a-seth-book-by-jane-roberts/).


Your ideas about yourself are, again vital in the larger context of a healthy lifetime. The condition of your heart is affected, for example, by your own feelings about it. If you consider yourself to be cold-hearted or heartless, those feelings will have a significant effect upon that physical organ. If you feel broken-hearted then you will also have that feeling reflected in one way or another in the physical organ itself.

…. each individual also has many options open. Everyone who feels broken-hearted does not necessarily die of heart failure for example. The subject of health cannot be considered in an isolated fashion … each person will try to fulfil their own unique abilities, and to ‘fill out’ the experience of life as fully as possible.

If an individual is hampered in that attempt strongly and persistently, then the dissatisfaction and frustration will be transformed into a lack of physical exuberance and vitality. There is always an unending reservoir of energy at the command of each person however, regardless of circumstances …

………………………………………… ………………………………………… ……

Thoughts and beliefs do indeed bring about physical alterations. They can even – and often do – change genetic messages.

There are diseases that people believe are inherited, carried from one generation to another by a faulty genetic communication. Obviously, many people with, for example, a genetic heritage of arthritis, do not come down with the disease themselves, while others indeed are so afflicted. The difference is one of belief.

The people who have accepted the suggestion uncritically that they will inherit such a malady do then seem to inherit it: they experience the symptoms. Actually the belief itself may have turned a healthy genetic message into an unhealthy one.

………………………………………… ………………………………………… ……

…pain and suffering are also obviously vital, living sensations – and therefore are a part of the body’s repertoire of possible feelings and sensual experience. They are also a sign, therefore, of life’s vitality, and are in themselves often responsible for a return to health when they act as learning communications.

Many diseases are often health-promoting processes. Chicken pox, measles and other like diseases in childhood in their own way ‘naturally inoculate’ the body, so that it is able to handle other elements that are a part of the body and the body’s environment.

When civilised children are medically inoculated against such diseases … to an important extent the natural protective processes are impeded. Such children may not come down with the disease against which they are medically protected, then – but they may indeed therefore become ‘prey’ to other diseases later in life that would not otherwise have occurred.

I am not advising people to refuse to have their children vaccinated, since you now have to take vaccination into consideration because of its prominence in society. It is very possible however, that science itself will in time discover the unfortunate side effects of many such procedures, and begin to reevaluate the entire subject.

jonsnow
10th April 2016, 07:32
Reality is conscious I agree but Seth is saying that vaccines and they 100 percent are not even designed that way they are used to both sterilise infect and weaken the immune system population reduction 101 .
Seth is on a agenda and it is not a good one.


No need to defend just I was shocked over vaccines which I am against so I put Seth in the bin .

If you wish to manifest remake your life science of the breath of life heal , create interested .
101 every day blow with the breath of life into your aura create what you want it will come it has no choice great book interesting read 10/10


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Maggie
10th April 2016, 07:44
Seth is on a agenda and it is not a good one.

I don't have any idea about that but I don't need to defend SETH anyway. Any Good in the information would not be made better by a defense of SETH. We all choose to make our own opinion. Blessings to you! Maggie

Cearna
10th April 2016, 08:50
Maggie, the lamp at my husband's computer broke so I am now working without one (he is waiting for a cataract operation to one eye), thus I am typing with only the light of the screen as a light in this room hurts his eyes. So I may make lots of mistakes, please excuse.

These are Seth's words:-

Hi Maggie, I am now going to expose the fearsome habit of unscrupulous people in life at the top.

I am and will lie not. This lady beginning to now work once again with me, is my only link to the cost of growth, until she as Madam Blavivowsky, died, I was told she cannot return again, as it was time for her to go back Home. However, visibility to owning one's own words, was lost as every a/hole enrolled in the gaining of mind for some own ends, took life in multidudinous societies purporting to be able to bring enlightenment roles in Soul Life.

I am not nor ever wanted to be, a best of all spiritual Master, but my inner role life was on this risky work, and I had been on the possible link to all kinds of knowledge, from working in the minding of gifted one's Beyond, through History's ministering God Above on Earth, always in a body, and always wontonly female. So many eminent roles she played, but never wanted to be known for any of them, so I am not to tell any of them to you as there is no point- however she is now Mother Earth (do not ever call her Gaia as that is the name taken by a Demon to have the poeple of Earth worship her and thus keep her fed, and she will be aware of any person who loves this Being and will give you not only love but will take a lot of what your own Life passage is about upon herself to help you to gain your desired Truths, she is the one I previous called the Rose of God.

Now back to the question at hand. My name is in the BIBLE, that one never existed, but the idea is always used to con others that this is some one who is so old he knows. Jane Roberts did not ask for my name to be part of her writings, till she heard a Being of my name was on the Guide List to Madam Blavovosky, and once she was dead there was no one to deny what she said. Once I heard what she was doing, I asked to give up the role of being Seth and called myself Same. I then found an excellent channel in Australia willing to write with my help and she wrote a book called Same Speaks out, for she could have had many law suits against her if she called me Seth.

I later went to work with her own daughter and in time as she grew adept at working with me, and we found, more than one adendum on my name being given to more than one using many sayings of mine from some one saying Seth spoke to me or works with me. Since none knew I was in Australia working under another name, they have begun a proliferation of con artists working from their rotton minds that have vielised my own teachings through these two ladies in Sydney. Neither wrote about CReate your own Reality, but that was the name of the seminars we were running here in Oz.

Our work was in seminars in which many enrolled here and I helped them to find the way to begin to think, plan and visualise the need they felt were most important to making a better life for themselves. so once this idea was coined some one wrote a book on it in my name from which Marnie received no royalties and no one asked for permision to use my name, so it is some one's work, but not mine, and the same with Jane Roberts, from whom I completely dissasociate with.

Now who is rightfully your name, is the question here. I no longer work with Marnie, having finished only a short time ago. My brother Ivan, works with the lady I used to work with and had met once in Sydney, when he brought her to me to help her become used to a method of knowing how to easily work with him. Now he has just become the God of the Earth and Sky, and I have been asked by the One God Above all to once again go back to work with the only one I had ever worked with before, and that is Colleen as her minder and since she has begun to work with the many Higher Gods Above he has asked me to help her to put her work together, and she and her husband of that time have downloaded alll their knowledge of Atlantis and Lemuria together, to try to put into a possible book form, since she was the leader of Atlantis and he was the leader of Lemuria (believe or not as you wish, but she met many a person here in sydney who not only were there, but authenticated at the time that that was who she was, many have since died).

so Maggie, who has used my name are responsible for the stealing of my identity for their own purposes, and I suspect that they, like many other have been mind controlled by the Demon handlers, the D jinn, who are responsible for most of this type of story you have quoted - reasonable suppositions, containing some Truths, but mostly hot air that sounds really nice for the people of Earth love such sayings and stories, and these keep you busy, instead of getting to Soul live. This is my story do you still want me to tell the sorts of things I taught at the seminars with Marnie in Sydney? Because I cannot tell you about being manifesting the unmanifest by thought, this is not possible here on Earth in this time frame, and is only ever done by the very few Creator Gods who work always to the plan of the totality of life, not to the needs of one person or a group on Earth. Love Seth to Colleen Same to those who know of me here in Oz.

Elen
10th April 2016, 10:44
I don't have any idea about that but I don't need to defend SETH anyway. Any Good in the information would not be made better by a defense of SETH. We all choose to make our own opinion. Blessings to you! Maggie

I get you Maggie, Wisdom needs no defense, it stands on it's own merit. I personally find it everywhere: Seth, Abraham Hicks, Bashar and Chris Thomas etc. etc. There are "little nuggets" all over the place, especially if you know the difference between listening and following.

Thanks for posting those videos, they were great!

Maggie
10th April 2016, 16:08
Dear Colleen,

My thesis (using this in the most scientific way I can and I love the spirit of science) is taken along the same lines that William Buhlman outlines. Therefore I am questionning along the lines of manifestation in form being a secondary effect of "thought". As has been discussed in many places, our intentions, energy (passion) and thought may be the driving force that results in our "physical" experience.

I am tempted to argue with the ideas in your writings but realize there is no good in that path. You are committed to these writings and may they serve you well! I mean that sincerely. However, I want to stand up for one aspect...IMO our use of words could carry an energy and symbols could be used in various ways. IMO once we take on a meaning consciously, it carries OUR signature meaning IMO.

I KNOW for me, Gaia is a wholesome name and word and there is provenance that I do appreciate. I cannot prove or disprove the story of origin of the name but the idea of foundation, change as in moving song, order from chaos and even using sacred sound in creation is "my thing" to love. Love creates.


Gaia (http://www.gaiafoundation.org/gaia-stories-of-origin) was the ancient Greek Goddess of Earth who, in Hesiod's Theogony of 700 BC, was the 'first to arise from chaos'. In the Homeric Hymn to Gaia of 500 BC, she was called 'Mother of all, the oldest one, the foundation'. Yet the term 'Gaia' is even older than Greece, coming from India a thousand years before. In Sanskrit, Gaya meant 'Moving Song' and, as the Gayatri Mantra, was the first hymn to arise from the orginal seed sound of Om.

I wish others could just grok the energetic signature of what we mean (and we'd skip a lot of misleading and misunderstanding) but so far words need to be used.

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BabaRa
10th April 2016, 16:31
Bruce Lipton is a MD, medical researcher. He explains how your biology conforms to your thoughts. While this may seem to some not "Manifesting", if you listen at a deep level you can see how it relates.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82ShSNuru6c&nohtml5=False

Cearna
11th April 2016, 04:33
I feel deeply connected to the archetype of "Our Lady" by every name and here in duality a comforter and also very organic as Gaia and also very powerful to lend assistance. I love feeling Her, loving Her and being full of Thanks Giving for Her company. She would never stand in the way of my power or development in whatever way it evolves. She likes it. She supports it. She loves me. I love Her always and I can only be grateful. I don't think it matters that I may have imagined her...I doubt She would mind that, being who she seems to be and YET??? I do sometimes marvel at WHO IS THIS WHO RELATES TO ME? She is real enough for practical purpose and present.




I am tempted to argue with the ideas in your writings but realize there is no good in that path. You are committed to these writings and may they serve you well! I mean that sincerely. However, I want to stand up for one aspect...IMO our use of words could carry an energy and symbols could be used in various ways. IMO once we take on a meaning consciously, it carries OUR signature meaning IMO.

I KNOW for me, Gaia is a wholesome name and word and there is provenance that I do appreciate. I cannot prove or disprove the story of origin of the name but the idea of foundation, change as in moving song, order from chaos and even using sacred sound in creation is "my thing" to love. Love creates.


Maggie, there is a very great underlying problem in your words. I don't disagree with any of this, in fact i concur wholeheartedly but, I have come across in my experience something so disturbing in all of this idea of who is who, as well as what you have just stated here, but I do not know if I can put it into the words you need to read in order to understand just how important this all is. I would like to get back to the topic of thought, as I have over time gone into this a lot as well, with my minder. Please do not before I begin, think that I am in any way trying to make you change your mind or beliefs in any way whatsoever, nor would I see that you would like to do this to me, so please I am now asking you to just see this as my experience through this life itself. I also know that what I say now will seem to be far fetched and unbelievable, so once again reader discretion is all I ask for.

Now to begin with, whilst I was in the womb, I called out to God that please hurry to help me, they are trying to kill me and take my identity from me. Who were the they as far as I can ascertain they were a D jinn and an ET who wanted the opportunity to become a human an have my soul and Spirit to do this with. Because I called out, some one came and saved me from dieing which in itself was a difficulty because I was an Rh baby and under threat of loss of life from the opposite Rh factor in my mother and father. I was given a spirit to protect me at all costs then. When I was born, I was surrounded by dark beings, trying to take me over and once again I called out using a very ancient language and some one came to help. Over my early years I was continually under threat, for I have the kind of Astrology, that any one above would know had some specific kind of life to be doing.

Due to my onset of an illness no one knew what it was, I became interested in alternative medicine and became at last aware, and during that time, I came to ask that I begin to find out who I am now, I said I didn't know how long it would take, but for the rest of my life I would allow no limitations to what I might need to do in order to find out who I am and who I could become, so I was then granted from Above this to be my Role in Life. I soon set about, doing whatever seemed to be set in front of me as part of my need to follow my role. All went pretty well, until, about halfway through my marriage, I got leukaemia and this of course upset my husband, and he already had some inkling of what my Role was here, so he said Iam taking your Role from you as you are now not capable of doing it for yourself, I can do it better. so he just took my role, without asking me or getting my permission, which I could never have granted anyway, because you cannot give your role to some one else, it is only granted to you. At the time I was unaware of the implications..

Now time went on, and I began to get upset, in fact considerably upset, because he was not doing what I considered was my Role and eventually I decided I was going to do it anyway. But then I became very aware, that I no longer had any identity left. In taking my Role he had taken from me my Soul, my spirit, all my memories and everything that I was, I was no longer anyone. So I began working almost every spare minute of every day trying to find out who I was, every one I had identified as my past lives he now saw as his and would not accept they were mine, all the things I tried to do to be my Role he told me I was wrong these were his, and all my minders set up a constant ask, over , "Who the Hell are you", because until I could identify myself, then I was no one at all.

Now before we begin our very first life we go to some kind of mothering God, who gives us our name, our species and where we are to go to, after that, of course each life we have a different name which is simply a user name for that life, but as we began to search for who I was, we discovered that in most of my lives I had been targeted by Djinn and my name or identify was taken and used by some one else as theirs to own and although I could find some of the memories deposited on my body, because that is where our memories of our past lives are stored, we could not connect to my identity of those people, because they had been stolen and those stealing them were Djinn and/or ET's and they were using my name to be able to have my gifts and Robes as theirs. This had been endemic throughout my many, many lives, now my husband had done the same with Djinn influence, because they then mind controlled him to do as they wished. WE told him several times he had taken my Role and must give it back, but he said he wouldn't do such a thing and would not give it back. I eventually found the answer by asking for my original being to come and fix everything up. Now I am by no means the only one this has happened to, it happens to many very gifted people and is an easy means of someone else taking over your life and leaving you horribly confused, lost and alone and bereft of trying to work anything out.

That is why I wrote a thread on Identity, and why I stated that it is such a bad thing for you to have any Priest stating over youreself especially during a christening, or a funeral, in Jesus's name, because they have then taken your name away from you and given it to Jesus.

Now this is the part about Mother Earth, she is a Free Spirit who is a part of the Soul of Earth itself. If you love Mother Earth and you give that love to Mother Earth then she receives your love; but she is not Gaia, the name of Gaia was taken over by a Demon who called herself a God, so up till recently when she lost her life any one who thought they were giving their love to Gaia, in fact that love went to the Demon, but sent to Mother Earth it went to her. Now because the Demon is at last dead, the God who looks after such things has now allowed the two as of today to be interchangeable and love given to either one will go to Mother Earth.

Can you understand how impoortant it was that Seth was trying to say others were usinjg his name under false pretenses, maybe unknowingly but doing so all the same. Hope you can understand this. Love colleen xxxx

Maggie
14th April 2016, 03:26
We have the whole world of possible information and knowledge on the internet. Doesn't that make you feel amazing!


http://freemantv.com/ Dr. Walter Russell outlined a world that destroys the atomic view and displays an electric Universe of Co-Creation through genius. Dr. Walter and Lao Russell’s teachings give to mankind, a scientific and “living” philosophic understanding of man himself, the mind of man, the soul of man and his relationship to the “Universal One,” respectively, the Creator. The unfoldment of the “coming sense” or new faculty, commonly referred to as “cosmic consciousness,” stands before mankind in this dawning electric age. It is ours for the asking.

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Joanna
14th April 2016, 06:26
Maggie, I love the Sanskrit meaning of Gaya...'moving song'. It makes me think of the Aboriginal 'songlines'....in this analogy, they would be each melodic and harmonic 'sound thread' within the fabric of the whole moving song. Beautiful....

'Love creates.'
Exactly. From my pov, Love itself IS, beyond thought or emotions, yet can be drawn through thoughts and emotions, co-creatively and sub-creatively.

Humans have myriad ways of 'identifying' experience: 'I think therefore I am' has been an influential identifier. But we could just as easily say, 'I feel therefore I am' or 'I love therefore I am', and live from that view, or simply 'I Am'...and all the rest flowing from that....

We don't have to go out of body to see deeper truths, but we can, it just depends on your point of view, and how you choose to experience.
This week, I have been watching a rose bloom, opening from the bud to full, every day. As it opens, I watch the curve of the petals and see the golden ratio unfolding, the fibonacci sequence, the whole that was held within the closed bud, like a fourth dimensional tesseract, emulated in beautiful, soft, scented form...and as I cup my hand around it, it reminds me of galaxies, memories of other universes...the pattern and the template of Life...and I experience this as the drawing through of concentrated pure Love via thought, emotion, and responding to the senses in a particular way...that gives joy....

'I Am...joy' in this moment. :)

Maggie
14th April 2016, 16:52
Maggie, I love the Sanskrit meaning of Gaya...'moving song'. It makes me think of the Aboriginal 'songlines'....in this analogy, they would be each melodic and harmonic 'sound thread' within the fabric of the whole moving song. Beautiful....

'Love creates.'
Exactly. From my pov, Love itself IS, beyond thought or emotions, yet can be drawn through thoughts and emotions, co-creatively and sub-creatively.
.and I experience this as the drawing through of concentrated pure Love via thought, emotion, and responding to the senses in a particular way...that gives joy....

'I Am...joy' in this moment.

Thank You Joanna for your singing.

Maggie
15th April 2016, 17:39
I have been thinking about how life is bookended in the physical. Russellian "science" talks about folding and unfolding. The following lecture is really a good addition IMO to a talk on how we manifest and the "purpose" of physical human conscious life and our creation in regards to "AFTER LIFE".

Science and Religion are often contrasted. It is a common fallacy that "Scientists" do "Science" when actually it begins to look like that only a few "scientists", very few in any discipline are practicing science. Why? ......because the asserting of belief in "gods" (no gods) may take any particular form and the rules of reverence can apply to any kind of content.


Simple Definition of religion (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion)
: the belief in a god or in a group of gods
: an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods
: an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group

In the beginning of this lecture, Hancock states that Richard Dawkins asserted that there is no life after death and this is a religious view IMO. Graham Hancock is one of the voices that declare their belief that consciousness is the foundation of reality. I think maybe he could be stating a "religious" view also. BUT he is also aware that we DO operate in many ways out of our own particular boundary of belief. So the SCIENCE of a "thought wave Universe" is that we are are in a paradox where we can only approach what we do not know with intimations from what we do. So we have to be Humble and in a way content with SINGULAR experience on our own journeys.Perhaps we may know we are here on short physical sojourns? No matter how "long" it's extension might be stretched, the body is temporal.

"Graham Hancock in a Brilliant Insightful Presentation Entitled " Divinity, Consciousness & Parallel Levels of Reality'."

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Joanna
18th April 2016, 09:54
Thank You Joanna for your singing.

And thanks for your singing too, Maggie. The more the merrier. :)

Chester
21st April 2016, 15:19
the thanks button is way not enough...

I wish xxxxxx (who was an appreciator of William Buhlman) would read it.

http://jandeane81.com/threads/9085-Our-manifestation-is-thought-taking-form?p=841948620&viewfull=1#post841948620

specifically -


In addition to self-distortions, many inner explorers operate under a
series of false assumptions; some assume that the three-dimensional
forms they encounter are always an objective reality. This assumption
is a serious error for all form-based structures are but the humble
vehicle, tool and creation of consciousness.

The blind acceptance of
form as a valid reality adds another layer to our self-deception. To
become effective inner explorers we must become discerning and
recognize that we are always interacting with the temporary energy
vehicles of conscious. Every life form, structure and drama in every
dimension is a tool and expression of consciousness. I always
question and authenticate the life forms and realities I encounter.

Dreamtimer
21st April 2016, 19:23
Maggie, have you read Thinking and Destiny by Harold W. Percival. I haven't yet but for a little bit. He basically says that thoughts create our karma/destiny.

Maggie
29th April 2016, 21:54
Maggie, have you read Thinking and Destiny by Harold W. Percival. I haven't yet but for a little bit. He basically says that thoughts create our karma/destiny.

Thanks! I will look that up. I always return to Neville Goddard. He wrote and lectured from an esoteric "biblical" language using Phallic and Solar allegories and other metaphor. The parable describes psychological truth.
I am revisiting 1948 class instruction

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Manifestation is a consequence of impregnation of the imaginal on the physical. Male orgasm with its necessary pause after emission is an allegory. Orgasm is apparent when desire has been satisfied. Like orgasmic satisfaction, when we have been satisfied that we are already that which we desired to be, we are "feeling from the end".

To imagine the sense of completion of "the wish fulfilled" is to already BE there. Then desire has fled and there is only occaision for grateful rejoicing.
Simply, "feeling from the end" is connecting with desire then going to the imagined scene and living imaginally in what will be the satiated state (so no charge, no longing, no arousal) and feeling the pause of satisfaction with gratitude.........


A question From The Neville Goddard 1948 Lessons

6. Question: How often should I perform the imaginal act, a few days or several weeks?

Answer: In the Book of Genesis the story is told of Jacob wrestling with an angel. This story gives us the clue we are looking for; that when satisfaction is reached, impotence follows.

When the feeling of reality is yours, for the moment at least, you are mentally impotent. The desire to repeat the act of prayer is lost, having been replaced by the feeling of accomplishment. You cannot persist in wanting what you already have. If you assume you are what you desire to be to the point of ecstasy, you no longer want it.

Your imaginal act is as much a creative act as a physical one wherein man halts, shrinks and is blessed, for as man creates his own likeness, so does your imaginal act transform itself into the likeness of your assumption. If, however, you do not reach the point of satisfaction, repeat the action over and over again until you feel as though you touched it and virtue went out of you.


Neville Goddard Class Instruction 1948 Lessons:

LESSON 1 - Neville Goddard 1948 Lessons - Consciousness is the only reality http://newthoughtthinkers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Neville-lesson1.pdf
LESSON 2 - Neville Goddard 1948 Lessons - Assumptions harden into fact http://newthoughtthinkers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Neville-lesson2.pdf
LESSON 3 - Neville Goddard 1948 Lessons - Thinking fourth dimensionally http://newthoughtthinkers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Neville-lesson3.pdf
LESSON 4 - Neville Goddard 1948 Lessons - No one to change but self http://newthoughtthinkers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Neville-lesson4.pdf
LESSON 5 - Neville Goddard 1948 Lessons - Remain faithful to your ideal http://newthoughtthinkers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Neville-lesson5.pdf
Questions and Answers - Class Instruction Neville Goddard 1948 http://newthoughtthinkers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Neville-QA_1948_LESSONS.pdf

Maggie
30th April 2016, 06:35
this is actually inspired by a conversation on another thread alluding to God/dess as a being who is or is not really having living presence "somewhere" and Nick Drake and ideals that live whom I associate with the Divine portrayed as the Neters in Egypt..... the dramatized cosmic laws.

In this song poem, Betty wants to talk to the River man about freedom.

"If he tells me all he knows
About the way his river flows
I don’t suppose
It’s meant for me.

Oh, how they come and go"

I think Neville would claim that to have that knowing meant for us, we must go meet the river and become the flow.

The God/dess is met when we exercise the quality of Divine Attribute. These attributes take on form through man. The questions we ask of "consciousness" and the answers we receive come from ideal form. Neters were attributes known as God/dess in forms as Egyptian ideals.

The Egyptians have been said to call on the neters by names that would in whole mind thinking evoke all the qualities of the God or Goddess. The importance was the understanding of the Divine quality and perhaps being the Divine embodiment? If we too can evoke whole mind thinking about a state of reality in an ideal form, we pull in Divine Attributes of God/dess qualities.

IMO the capacity to create is not in a vacuum but in a context that is particular here. This particular is exalted by one's connection to the Divine qualities.

Edgar Cayce said

"... ideals are not your mind - ideals are principles acted upon by the mind. (2533-6)

No soul enters by chance, but that it may fill that it has sought and does seek as its ideal. Hence, as may be the first injunction to this entity: Do not too oft accept what others say, unless it answers to a something deep within self.
Do not, then, merely have a verbal or vocal ideal. Do write what is thy ideal. Begin with that under these three headings: Spiritual, Mental, Material. And write what is thine own ideal. As ye find, these may change from time to time. For, each soul grows in grace, in knowledge, in understanding. Just as the awareness, the unfoldments come to the self as the entity applies that it has chosen and does choose from day to day. (3051-2)"

These ideals live on the fourth dimension. We live them and there-in, God/dess lives on this dimension.


Almost all Egyptologists and even most alternative or new-age writers about Egypt still translate the word neters as gods - the great Wallis Budge being one of the earliest protagonists to not do that. But as the word has various subtleties that cannot be condensed into a single English word, we have here translated it as 'cosmic laws' - being a modern approximation of the much longer and somewhat antiquated expression 'divine properties or qualities'.
By opening up to the neters as the primary creative forces which are active throughout the universe, it becomes obvious that they were never intended to be worshipped, as they are merely the modes of expression of the Supreme Being, which you can call God, Source Energy, the Divine Presence, or whatever name you prefer. The Egyptians called it RA - the overriding principle of love that permeates all of creation - both manifest and unmanifest.
The use of these cosmic laws or principles is not limited to the Absolute Creator alone, but we too can learn to use them, and begin creating in harmony with the rest of the universe. Its really not so difficult to do. But it does require a major psychological adjustment of how we see the world - or rather, seeing the processes through which things come into being. The Egyptian word for 'becoming' is KHEPRI. Not a god, but a vital process that is constantly unfolding.
The neters do not need to be understood by the mind; they need to be recognized, affirmed, and lived through the heart. Enjoy - and create!

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As to Nick Drake, he is no longer "alive" as a person but his music, when we hear it, evokes him. In the same way, when we hear through our inner ears the music of freedom as the Ideal we know, if we will aspire to then sing from knowing this being free, the music of freedom then lives through our own voice.

River Man

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Betty came by on her way
Said she had a word to say
About things today
And fallen leaves

Said she hadn’t heard the news
Hadn’t had the time to choose
A way to lose
But she believes

Gonna see the river man
Gonna tell him all I can
About the plan
For lilac time

If he tells me all he knows
About the way his river flows
And all night shows
In summertime

Betty said she prayed today
For the sky to blow away
Or maybe stay
She wasn’t sure

For when she thought of summer rain
Calling for her mind again
She lost the pain
And stayed for more

Gonna to see the river man
Gonna to tell him all I can
About the ban
On feeling free

If he tells me all he knows
About the way his river flows
I don’t suppose
It’s meant for me

Oh, how they come and go

Joanna
1st May 2016, 14:14
Goddard: "Manifestation is a consequence of impregnation of the imaginal on the physical. Male orgasm with its necessary pause after emission is an allegory."

Maggie, it occurs to me that male orgasm is half an allegory of manifestation as impregnation of imaginal on physical. If we were to add female orgasm into the allegory, then it is about continuum as much as about 'necessary pause'. Feminine potential for multiple orgasms is the force of prolonged emission. 'Wherein man halts, shrinks, and is blessed', woman continues and is blessed. The two modes together, pause and continuum, show a relationship to manifestation that has two flows, and impregnation results in a third energy from the combining of the two, the child energy... imagined into the physical.
Actually, a female model of this premise would look quite different, as female orgasm and impregnation are not congruent in the way the male orgasm and impregnation are. A female can conceive without orgasm, and can orgasm without being impregnated, so already there isn't the direct consequential flow as with males. It's more of an interweaving than direct consequence, and in terms of the process of the imagined into manifestation, gives quite a different picture/allegory...

:)

Maggie
1st May 2016, 16:56
Goddard: "Manifestation is a consequence of impregnation of the imaginal on the physical. Male orgasm with its necessary pause after emission is an allegory."

Maggie, it occurs to me that male orgasm is half an allegory of manifestation as impregnation of imaginal on physical. If we were to add female orgasm into the allegory, then it is about continuum as much as about 'necessary pause'. Feminine potential for multiple orgasms is the force of prolonged emission. 'Wherein man halts, shrinks, and is blessed', woman continues and is blessed. The two modes together, pause and continuum, show a relationship to manifestation that has two flows, and impregnation results in a third energy from the combining of the two, the child energy... imagined into the physical.
Actually, a female model of this premise would look quite different, as female orgasm and impregnation are not congruent in the way the male orgasm and impregnation are. A female can conceive without orgasm, and can orgasm without being impregnated, so already there isn't the direct consequential flow as with males. It's more of an interweaving than direct consequence, and in terms of the process of the imagined into manifestation, gives quite a different picture/allegory...

:)

Thank you. These are very fine points and I'd love to unfold the conversation. If "It's more of an interweaving than direct consequence, and in terms of the process of the imagined into manifestation, gives quite a different picture/allegory...", YES, I can see that. Is there a way of modeling creativity that you can expound on?

We are both masculine and feminine but IMO "processes" display gender characteristics?

One of the key features about the Neville work is that we already are EVERYTHING we can imagine and we experience states of being based on the way we have selected out aspects. So IMO, the already being everything seems the feminine aspect of a whole which we are...sort of passive being everything. The masculine is the way we actively imagine and select out and vitalize "particular" aspects and the experience of the results could be seen as the child perhaps?

I have spent focus on "how do we create in this matrix...this maya....this world of construction that has money, careers, relationships, buying and selling. This I am focused on is not "all there is" but how to be a genius in this realm? I mean genius as Walter russell calls it. I mean how to have original effective personal experience playing "house holder". I think of it as a gift to unwrap. It has learning as one learns about "playing piano". It is because I have observed that the mastery seems like a science.

This is not "all that is important" but I will admit I desire to feel "potent" in this world. I think I am cabable of harmlessly working with the tangible earth "business". I think there are principles underneath and within fulfilling the sense of satisfied being "I am" creating in this field.

So, I have been reading about the "secret" long before it was a movie. It came to my attention at one point that as far as "gender" assignment, the mind has "duality" in this plane. Here is one discussion....


He finds that there exists a mental Something which is able to Will that the "Me" act along certain creative lines, and which is also able to stand aside and witness the mental creation. This part of himself he is taught to call his "I." He is able to rest in its consciousness at will. He finds there not a consciousness of an ability to generate and actively create, in the sense of the gradual process attendant upon mental operations, but rather a sense and consciousness of an ability to project an energy from the "I" to the "Me"--a process of "willing" that the mental creation begin and proceed. He also finds that the "I" is able to stand aside and witness the operations of the "Me's" mental creation and generation. There is this dual aspect in the mind of every person. The "I" represents the Masculine Principle of Mental Gender-the "Me" represents the Female Principle. The "I" represents the Aspect of Being; the "Me" the Aspect of Becoming. You will notice that the Principle of Correspondence operates on this plane just as it does upon the great plane upon which the creation of Universes is performed. The two are similar in kind, although vastly different in degree. "As above, so below; as below, so above."

These aspects of mind-the Masculine and Feminine Principles-the "I" and the "Me"-considered in connection with the well-known mental and psychic phenomena, give the master-key to these dimly known regions of mental operation and manifestation. The principle of Mental Gender gives the truth underlying the whole field of the phenomena of mental influence, etc.

The tendency of the Feminine Principle is always in the direction of receiving impressions, while the tendency of the Masculine Principle is always in the direction of giving, out or expressing. The Feminine Principle has much more varied field of operation than has the Masculine Principle. The Feminine Principle conducts the work of generating new thoughts, concepts, ideas, including the work of the imagination. The Masculine Principle contents itself with the work of the "Will" in its varied phases. And yet, without the active aid of the Will of the Masculine Principle, the Feminine Principle is apt to rest content with generating mental images which are the result of impressions received from outside, instead of producing original mental creations.

Persons who can give continued attention and thought to a subject actively employ both of the Mental Principles-the Feminine in the work of the mental generation, and the Masculine Will in stimulating and energizing the creative portion of the mind. The majority of persons really employ the Masculine Principle but little, and are content to live according to the thoughts and ideas instilled into the "Me" from the "I" of other minds. But it is not our purpose to dwell upon this phase of the subject, which may be studied from any good text-book upon psychology, with the key that we have given you regarding Mental Gender.Kybalian CHAPTER XIV, MENTAL GENDER (http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/kyb/kyb16.htm)

And regarding Shiva as masculine principle:


Shiva as the Supreme Reality

As the primal reality, Shiva is looked upon in four main ways. Shiva is first the original light of reality, Prakasha. Second, he is the immortal life force, Prana. Third, he is primal sound, OM or Pranava. Fourth he is the primal being or pure consciousness, Atman orPurusha, our own inner Self and true nature.

Shiva as the primal power of light and awareness represents our own higher search for Self-realization, and is not simply an external deity. That inner light is the real basis of life and is beyond all birth and death. It is ever resounding as the cosmic vibration that is both the manifest and unmanifest reality. It is our true being beyond the limitations of body and mind, which are but its instruments.

Shiva is the embodiment of mystery. His true nature cannot be known and does not dwell in the domain of speech or mind, word or thought. We contact Shiva when we realize the limited nature of all that we can know or think. This makes Shiva something of a terrible deity, the power of the great unknown that renders our lives but a grain of dust in the cosmic dance. Shiva is the deity of paradox. He stands above all dualities. He is beyond good and evil. He is the being of cosmic consciousness far beyond the constraints of any creaturely mind and its compulsions.

Shiva is also the great deity of nature, the lord of animals or Pashupati. He is the lord of the wild. He really has no human form. We find his face and form hidden in nature, whether in the mountain, tree, the cloud, the animal or the rock.

The Duality of Shiva and Shakti

Yet Shiva forms a duality of cosmic powers at a manifest level as the cosmic masculine force, along with his complimentary Shakti or feminine principle.

Shiva is the male, the fire, the mountain, and power of stillness, as Shakti is the female, water, valley, and power of action. Shiva is the central still point and Shakti is the turning of the wheel. Shiva is the root and trunk of the tree; Shakti is the branches, leaves, flowers and fruit.

The worship of Shiva and Shakti or the dual cosmic powers represents the natural religion of all humanity and of the entire universe, which revolves around honoring these two forces in all their manifestations in both the animate and inanimate realms. We find this honoring of the dual mystery in all native and traditional cultures, and in the ancient world overall. Shiva is the standing stone, pyramid or obelisk, while Shakti is reflected in the ring stone, the altar or the cave such as we already find worshipped in the earliest humanity long before what we call history began.

Looking back in time and history, we could say that Shiva is the deity of the shaman also, and as such perhaps the oldest formulation of the sacred in humanity He is the lord of the dance, of ecstasy, of the drum, of dream and trance which the Shaman seeks. To Shiva belongs the sacred fire and the sacred plant, the Agni and Soma of Vedic lore. In fact the Vedas are nothing but the mantric expression of Shiva, with the four main Vedic deities of Agni, Soma, Surya, and Indra or Fire, Sun, Moon and Lightning as the four aspects of his light.

However, as the cosmic masculine force, Shiva is not a mere phallic symbol or glorification of sexuality or promiscuity, as some would like to portray. He is also the great ascetic and yogi, reflecting the highest self-discipline and inner equipoise. He indicates the power that pervades the universe and allows us to ascend in consciousness to our highest potential, which is that of Self-realization.

Shiva is symbolized as a bull, or his vehicle is the bull (nandi). Yet this is not the bull as a mere symbol of virility but the bull of dharma or cosmic law. The bull represents the spirit or the Purusha, the enduring principle of awareness which holds all things together and gives significance to all.

Forms of Shiva

Shiva has many forms through which his different aspects and attributes are worshipped and brought into our lives.

He is Nataraj, the great lord of the cosmic dance of ecstatic dissolution, who consumes the entire universe in the all-pervasive cosmic fire.

He is Dakshinamurti, the enlightened youth who sitting beneath a banyan tree teaches through silence even the most senior of the sages.

He is Chandrashekhar who holds the crescent Moon on his head as an ornament and has the power to control the mind.

He is Nilakantha or the blue-throated deity who can transform poison into bliss.

He is Gangadhara who holds the Ganga River on his head, allowing the cosmic waters to stream into the Earth.

As Shankara, the giver of boons, he is auspicious, and promotes healing, blessings and abundance.

As Rudra, the fiery one, he is fierce, demanding purification, humility and self-abnegation.

There are special forms of Shiva for all the directions, elements and chakras, which are the inner ruling powers behind nature. Everything in the universe has its Shiva or spirit-power, through which we can connect to the Cosmic energy and Prana.

Shiva reflects the entire universe composed of both fire or Agni and water or Soma. He is Vayu or the cosmic wind that animates all things and balances all dualities. He is Mahakala, the great lord of time and eternity. His forms are innumerable and his names are unending.Shiva, the Supreme Lord of Yoga (https://vedanet.com/2012/06/13/shiva-the-supreme-lord-of-yoga/)

Neville could be completely OFF about his allegory. Is the act of imagining masculine?

Maggie
2nd May 2016, 04:01
The Anthropic viewpoint is the one we are having. IMO, how I "end up on this line" where what is real to me is real to me is because "I am" experiencing it. It may be that there are parallel experiences that IF I am "dead" to this one (Neville's wording implies a whole different state), The different state becomes "real" and circumstances Must also reflect my new state.

"I am" fully alive in another state. Can my POV be in both places? Neville implies to me that we can imagine being so fully in another place in imagination that we will feel surprised when we "come back" to this waking consciousness. But to fully be a new state, I cannot have the "old woman" be the "I am." Complete change of states of imagining obliterates (my wording) the state that once seemed real. IMO this is a fun game within the power of the human imaginative creator.

I think this is a very catchy tune.

/Kfe_3bEH-jE


THE ANTHROPIC VIEWPOINT (http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/02/song-11-of-26-anthropic-viewpoint.html)
music and lyrics (c) by Rob Bryanton (SOCAN)

(This song combines the concept of the “Anthropic Principle” as advanced by Stephen Hawking in his “The Universe in a Nutshell” with Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorems, one of the central points of Douglas Hofstadter’s amazing “Gödel, Escher, Bach”, and throws in some strange ideas of my own. And it’s got a good beat and you can dance to it.)

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
The only thing that I know for certain
In everything that you say and do
The only thing you know for sure is you
Believe in that and you will be okay
You could live to fight another day, some day

Pay no mind to those tiny little voices
Every day you gotta make some choices
Make ‘em right and you can carry on
Make ‘em wrong and you will soon be gone
And if it seems just a little unfair
Get used to it, cause the stars don’t care, don’t care

In the anthropic viewpoint
The reason we’re here is because we’re here
And if it were impossible
Then we wouldn’t be

If there’s other worlds then we’ve just missed ‘em
No way to know what’s outside our system
We’re like goldfish livin in a bowl
What’s beyond it we can never know
All we can do is theorize
Cause we can never… get outside, outside

In the anthropic viewpoint…

So here we are in the Hydrogen Conspiracy
That’s the way that it certainly appears to be
What’s the reason, where’s the rhyme
How’d we end up on this line
All those other possibilities
They’re just as real, but they don’t have me
It’s no big deal, not worth a fuss
They’re just as real, but they don’t have us, have us

In the anthropic viewpoint
The reason we’re here is because we’re here
And if it were impossible
Then we wouldn’t be


As I say in a previous blog entry about this song, the poor ol' Anthropic Principle has certainly had a rough ride, some people just plain refuse to take this idea seriously. In the wikipedia article about the anthropic principle, you will see there are many different flavors of this idea. Let me try to describe the particular version that appeals to me in the context of what we're imagining here: if there is a multiverse of universes, with each universe springing from its own unique set of initial conditions, most of these universes would be uninhabitable by life as we know it. So how did we get so lucky as to be in a universe fine-tuned to our needs? The answer is that we couldn't exist in those other universes, so that's why "we" (that is to say, "life as we know it") aren't in them. The upshot of that idea, though, is that some of those other universes with completely different basic forces and structures could have within them organized bits of matter and energy that are completely and utterly alien to what we think of as life, and they could be marvelling at how miraculous it is that the universe they live in has been so finely tuned to their own unique needs!

Joanna
3rd May 2016, 11:53
Thank you. These are very fine points and I'd love to unfold the conversation. If "It's more of an interweaving than direct consequence, and in terms of the process of the imagined into manifestation, gives quite a different picture/allegory...", YES, I can see that. Is there a way of modeling creativity that you can expound on?

We are both masculine and feminine but IMO "processes" display gender characteristics?

One of the key features about the Neville work is that we already are EVERYTHING we can imagine and we experience states of being based on the way we have selected out aspects. So IMO, the already being everything seems the feminine aspect of a whole which we are...sort of passive being everything. The masculine is the way we actively imagine and select out and vitalize "particular" aspects and the experience of the results could be seen as the child perhaps?

I have spent focus on "how do we create in this matrix...this maya....this world of construction that has money, careers, relationships, buying and selling. This I am focused on is not "all there is" but how to be a genius in this realm? I mean genius as Walter russell calls it. I mean how to have original effective personal experience playing "house holder". I think of it as a gift to unwrap. It has learning as one learns about "playing piano". It is because I have observed that the mastery seems like a science.

So, I have been reading about the "secret" long before it was a movie. It came to my attention at one point that as far as "gender" assignment, the mind has "duality" in this plane.

Neville could be completely OFF about his allegory. Is the act of imagining masculine?

This could get into a very long conversation, Maggie, but I'll focus in on a couple of points here. :)
Firstly, about this allegory, I do not believe the act of imagining is either masculine or feminine. Imagining, in its origin, has no gender, and originates before and beyond the division into duality/two genders. But, it expresses through genders in many dimensions/frequency bands (in my view) including this third dimensional one, which is an experience of duality, and the contrast of creating through the processes, as you put it, of gendered expression. In dimensions which experience through unity, then the gendered expression isn't based on this-or-that but this-and-that-as-One.
A Hermaphrodite (statistically I've seen from between 0.033 to 0.05% of the population), is a living example and experiencer within the 3D duality mode of this-and-that-as-One, right?
Now, we could go into a discussion of why Hermes and Aphrodite, in particular, are the two fused as one, to the human (mythical) view of a gender-fused being. For a hermaphrodite is not genderless, but gender-fused/gender-merged.

I have not seen or read The Secret - my intuition said something important was missing from it. About the mind having duality in this plane, does it? Or does the mind interpret our experiences of contrast through a dualized view because it has been conditioned/programmed to do so, but could just as easily interpret through unity and union, wholeness, mergence, if those conditionings or programmings were dissolved?

Okay, going all over the place here - about an allegory derived from the feminine interweaving or continuum orgasmic expression, what I would rather put forward is an allegory of weaving based in the interwoven union of the feminine and masculine, as that is where I'm 'coming from' (excuse the pun)... ;)
So, the weaving analogy is an easy and meaningful one for me, on account of having worked as a tapestry weaver, and the thing I always loved about weaving is you start from nothing - unlike painting onto a canvas or drawing onto paper, you have a loom which appears empty, an empty space...yet that space is already totally alive with your imagination...because weaving tapestries is one of those arts where you need to have a completed 'picture' in your mind before you start, so that you know how finely to warp the loom, according to how much detail will be in it, and so forth. So you fill the empty space with the vertical threads, the warps (which I will call the erect masculine in this analogy, and like Shiva as the bull, that which is the cosmic dharma, the strength, the stability, the bedrock upon which creational energies are built, and also like the Shiva as the tree trunk, the vertical axis around which creative energies spiral and blossom into form).
So you have the warp threads there, like a strung harp, and you're going to weave colour (rather than sound) into and through this harp, with the horizontal weft threads (the feminine, in this analogy) and each weft thread wraps around the warp threads to create a fabric, like magic, where there was nothing except your imagination, and the feminine, like the Shakti branches and blossoms and fruits on the Shiva tree trunk, springs out in colours and forms, warp wrapped in weft, yet for the tapestry as a Whole to exist, warp and weft cannot be separated, they are both an equal contributor to the fabric.
And interestingly in this analogy, the (feminine) weft is the dynamic active mover upon the stationary warp (masculine) - more akin to Shakti spiralling around the Shiva still point (in the wheel metaphor), than to the idea of the passive feminine upon which the masculine moves and impregnates the imaginal. Which does not make the latter 'invalid', from my point of view....more that both have within them passive and active, not one or the other (dualistic view). In true unity, passive and active are indistinguishable, simply one flow of creative movement in which the Flame of divine feminine and masculine wholeness is spiralling around itself. Infinitely, eternally, in the pure Love of Creativity.

For here, to my experience and knowing, is the one key to creating with 'genius', in any plane of existence.
To use the weaving example, in this plane, here is how I came to be a tapestry weaver, of which there are about 200 worldwide (working as their porfessional livelihood), so it is a very tiny field to get into. At 19, I was studying second year of an Art and Design degree in Perth, and the second year group went on a trip to Sydney and Melbourne (3000 kms away) visiting everything to do with textiles. And while in Melbourne, we visited a tapestry studio - one of 7 professional studios worldwide at the time - and I instantly fell in love with the tapestries on the looms, and felt such a pull in my heart, that I would love to do this.
So when we got back to Perth, I wrote a letter to the director of the studio, asking if they might have any traineeships coming up in a year or so (planning to finish the third year of my degree first). The director rang me back and asked me to go for a two week work experience, which I did...and then was offered a job. So instead of doing third year, within 3 weeks I found myself moving to Melbourne and taking up a 3 year traineeship as a tapestry weaver. The studio hadn't taken on any new weavers for 8 years, but I had contacted them just at a moment when they had new commission coming in, and had decided to train a new weaver. The timing was so perfect, and I felt how the pure love for this artform, the way it sang to my heart, and in my heart, had unlocked the door.
From that, this truth has borne out every time. If the love is there - without needs, or wants, or expectations, just the joyful inner singing - then everything I've ever focused on has unfolded, and if the love hasn't been there, if I'm pursuing it for other reasons, every time, it has been blocked (sometimes disastrously). So when I stopped weaving and turned to writing novels, coming from my heart and passion for the world and characters and their journeys, again the door opened...the novels flowed out, and a publisher took them. Then when the Love in me turned to the presence of star family and higher dimensional beings, that door opened, breathtakingly, and into my lived reality came lightships, orbs, heartachingly beautiful beings of light...
This is what life has shown me, to trust the (divine) flame inside my heart, to have no doubt and no fear, for they will block the way...and allow the deep magic of life to flow through the being I Am, with all its joy, intensity, lightness and providence. That last one, I am coming to know and align with more deeply now.... :)

This is just one soul's path, but maybe it resonates for you?

Maggie
3rd May 2016, 23:53
From that, this truth has borne out every time. If the love is there - without needs, or wants, or expectations, just the joyful inner singing - then everything I've ever focused on has unfolded, and if the love hasn't been there, if I'm pursuing it for other reasons, every time, it has been blocked (sometimes disastrously). So when I stopped weaving and turned to writing novels, coming from my heart and passion for the world and characters and their journeys, again the door opened...the novels flowed out, and a publisher took them. Then when the Love in me turned to the presence of star family and higher dimensional beings, that door opened, breathtakingly, and into my lived reality came lightships, orbs, heartachingly beautiful beings of light...
This is what life has shown me, to trust the (divine) flame inside my heart, to have no doubt and no fear, for they will block the way...and allow the deep magic of life to flow through the being I Am, with all its joy, intensity, lightness and providence. That last one, I am coming to know and align with more deeply now....

This is just one soul's path, but maybe it resonates for you?

Thanks...beautiful. It was so enjoyable to read about your life experience.

In my past history, before 10 years ago, I think I was having a very different life. What stands out is that it was easy and I was satisfied. I had extraordinary luck for relationships, career, excellent credit and funds. Then IMO something changed more than the facts. Something in me changed drastically.

My husband died after a long illness. It was unavoidable like a car wreck you see coming. I think I supported him very well. Strangely when he died, I went into an ecstatic state so at the time it was weird. Then after I tried to keep his business going and failed, THAT began the low slide. Since then so much about ME was unable to cooperate with the old values. My career became abhorrent. I could not tolerate my old patterns. I have had my drama reveal that I feel I MUST be congruent with my inner being or will not stay living. There is nothing tangible that is satisfying.

What IS satisfying is the high of feeling connected to (indescribable) as a constant awareness. It is not like airy fairy lala but deep in the bone (indescribable). This constant sense of connection is so (indescribable) unsale-able and without mundane value. It seems as if I think from some other context. But it feels authentic.

I do value money because money is a freely use-able way to deal with the world. Actually I( have spent time on listening to "how to" receive cash. There is probably something deeply ingrained in the subcnscious about having money to untangle. That so much has been associated negatively about "unearned" wealth is undeniable. That we see so many people struggling with this issue makes it a collective issue. certainly I am affected by what is unconscious and I am not afraid of my inability, quite curious actually to know where I am caught.

I have some wishes for what the world might have but they seem not really what the "world wants" (so far)so OK> not a problem. It is just me not aligned with the "world" I used to be able to easily navigate. I consider myself in good company with many others "waking".

This is not depression about being in the world as it is BUT there is not much of stuff that seems useful to desire. It is somewhat like the real me wants to say "**** off" to all pretense. I think I see myself in rebellion still,couting resistance. That is OK too. It seems on purpose.

I have explored some ways of eliciting my larger context like ayahausca and meditation and just being still. I THINK that though I am not "manifesting" such ease as before, what is in my life is directly known as part of me.

Could I so develop in these NOW values and see them in a world? That is clearly the direction I am desiring. The possibility is held out by "theorists" that being unfit for what seemed fitting before, I could become daily living in a new context without dying? I am pretty sure there is something to this desire as it is what I find fascinating.

Of course I always (even before becoming disillusioned with my reality appearance) studied whatever had to do with woowoo. I went through so many phases of assigning importance in my quest. I feel as if I did a whole tour of woowoo. I see myself in many posting on forums as I was once moved through these beliefs in influences like archons, in angels, in ETs and a significant astrology. This sequence of believing and seeing the beliefs pass evolved into a determination of sorts. Anything to be believed is important while it lasts as "my belief" just be cause. Beliefs effect experience. Instead of being affected, I want to know the aspect of me that is under all the trappings. What does that aspect mean to experience?

Things now in my life from moment to moment are not hurtful (though certainly inconvenient some days). I have synchronicities and get pleasure from companions. Life feels very mellow if a bit isolated (by my own weirdness). I feel a deep desire to know that I know and have what I experience be clearly revealed as deliberate. The only value seems to be that I grok this mastery.

I don't see any contradictions really in our various allegories and metaphors. The fruit pie is esteemed in the eating and we are all having flavors of our pies. IMO there is nothing at all wrong. The whole IS responsive to what we embrace and resounds with our words and ideas. When they are truly our own, not mimicry, IMO the Universe sings whoopee. As we are experiencing and exploring, changes are unavoidable and not a matter to fight.

There are underlying principles applicable to all IMO. These are beyond all belief IMO. Being it is TREMENDOUS pie, we might each take part of all and decide it is a trunk, or a leg, or a tail, or a continent. But it is a gorgeous elephantine mystery.

I am really enjoying this interview. I like hearing what others have to say.
Consciousness and the Physics of the Soul with Brooks Agnew

/37PnDYekULs

Joanna
4th May 2016, 12:07
Brooks Agnew: 'The universe is a photon moment....The Big Bang never happened....The whole universe is still the singularity it originally was....Our consciousness slowed everything down so it could see time as distance.'

Have listened to some of the interview, Maggie. It's interesting what he says about the mind being something different to the heart, and that mind is driven by the soul. Okay, so if you see/feel the heart as the seat of the soul, then the three come together - heart, mind, soul...seated and housed in the physical body of sense experiences. To me, that is a very joyful, free state to Be in, and Create from. I also saw this quote just this moment:

"One who is mostly an observer thrives in good times but suffers in bad times because what he is observing is already vibrating, and as he observes it, he includes it in his vibrational countenance. As he includes it, the Universe accepts that as his point of attraction and gives him more of it. So the better it gets the better it gets. Or the worse it gets the worse it gets. While one who is a visionary thrives in all times." ~ Abraham-Hicks

Would you agree this is speaking to how to be a self-responsible co-creator with Source, with the universe, rather than, as Agnew puts it, 'a passenger'? Not to mention, it's really great fun to be a visionary. :)

Your words: "Beliefs effect experience. Instead of being affected, I want to know the aspect of me that is under all the trappings. What does that aspect mean to experience?"
I've asked the same - for beliefs affect experience, yes, and attachment to beliefs dictates one's (interpretation of) experience, because attachment drives thoughts and actions to support and reinforce whatever the beliefs are. Then we don't even get to see the aspect, the unveiled core, beneath the 'trappings'.
It's not that easy to 'get rid of' - or at least suspend - all beliefs, in order to know that inner aspect. Some are more obvious than others, and some are deeply embedded in the subconscious programming. But it can help immensely to choose to be very, very relaxed about your beliefs, while acknowledging there are beliefs you may not even be consciously aware of, and I have found making that choice, and keeping on choosing it, facilitates the growth of self-trust.

Maggie
4th May 2016, 15:54
Would you agree this is speaking to how to be a self-responsible co-creator with Source, with the universe, rather than, as Agnew puts it, 'a passenger'? Not to mention, it's really great fun to be a visionary. :)

Your words: "Beliefs effect experience. Instead of being affected, I want to know the aspect of me that is under all the trappings. What does that aspect mean to experience?"
I've asked the same - for beliefs affect experience, yes, and attachment to beliefs dictates one's (interpretation of) experience, because attachment drives thoughts and actions to support and reinforce whatever the beliefs are. Then we don't even get to see the aspect, the unveiled core, beneath the 'trappings'.
It's not that easy to 'get rid of' - or at least suspend - all beliefs, in order to know that inner aspect. Some are more obvious than others, and some are deeply embedded in the subconscious programming. But it can help immensely to choose to be very, very relaxed about your beliefs, while acknowledging there are beliefs you may not even be consciously aware of, and I have found making that choice, and keeping on choosing it, facilitates the growth of self-trust.

Self trust is the most valuable "current see" in our pockets.

It does not make any sense to ME that what we have fully feeling in the heart/ thinking with the brain /knowing with connected "IsIs" could be any other than absolutely true!
This is why I cannot give up the sense that we are the creators who just forgot how. Manifesting in "real time" takes a certain receptivity that is real patience.

I feel sad when I read and hear others scoff at the human ability to be 100% creating even when by default. I feel sad that people are threatened and besieged by some evil that is "outside" and inevitable. Constantly seeing DOOM at hand is misery.

Living "the dream" seems tough. What I am considering strongly is the need to RELAX and "lighten up" as vital concerning "focus" FOR the woowoo to be let in. I have felt retarded and a "poor" example of my own commitments. This is definitely "letting up". I feel pleased with being able to share my excitement by writing. When meeting others daily, I think I need to just surrender my prejudice that judges "how" I succeed with this manifesting Busy-ness.

I could get "lighter" (less heavy) and show up with whatever I have and declare THAT the success.

Surrender at one time was a belief of "giving up" as in abdication of "responsibility" and "control" (as in "I should BE ABLE" to control "this" more and better as a mature person" i.e. EGO). Surrender and patience seemed like passwords to "suck it up and make do the little there is of what you might desire" and smile while sobbing inside waiting for deliverance.

The painful aspects of hitting the wall (where did THAT heavy brick come from?), falling down into the inside out upside down experience of "carts before horses" and the nonsensical constraints of linear "time" on this "world" HURT!!!!!!

But that is just in a days work in the underground world of borderland shadow.
I mentioned synchronicity. They seem more and more pointed.
This came in my inbox and it was soothing to watch.

Ut3Jn-cANMk

It reminded me that I had seen ET 101 before. I found this pdf. I only read to here before posting. By the way, I do accept a "hierarchy" exists of "souls" based on experience and capacity to hold wisdom and love. What enraged me here on earth was using this "hierarchical" LAW (cream rises and curds sink by nature) of "reality" to justify "lords and Ladies" being placed in perpetual "exaltation". The castes with no accountability to live as Brahman IF calling one-self Brahman. IMO because of the blindness where people cannot see one another's real status, they are trapped by beliefs in false "leadership".

Surrendeer to "lawful order" is actually relaxing. An egg will be soft boiled in 3 minutes and hard in eight at certain altitudes. Most people sort of know there is a use of being supported by "a brother and sister farther along" as guides. When one's soul-are aspects have been clarified well, one will see more clearly.

This is from some clear seers IMO.
https://outrageousminds.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/e-t-101.pdf


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Joanna
6th May 2016, 15:10
"I feel sad when I read and hear others scoff at the human ability to be 100% creating even when by default. I feel sad that people are threatened and besieged by some evil that is "outside" and inevitable. Constantly seeing DOOM at hand is misery."

As a soul living, perceiving and creating from the awareness that like attracts like, and energies tangible and intangible converge to points of focus, then constantly seeing Doom at hand is not only misery, it is a disservice to both our Self and the world and all life in it....because we are then complicit with - and part of - the 'Doom energy mechanism', and contributing to the movement of the energies of such scenarios into our personal and collective experience.
It seems to be quite a hurdle for many people to really trust and own the true extent of their own creative power....but it is a hurdle that must be jumped at some point...

"By the way, I do accept a "hierarchy" exists of "souls" based on experience and capacity to hold wisdom and love."

Well, in my experience, beings/souls holding very deep wisdom and love aren't exactly hung up on hierarchies, lol. 'Degrees of station' aren't their focus....though beings in an intense ego state may obsess over them, and want to categorize everything... ;)

Speaking of synchronicities, I had a wonderful laugh yesterday. Writing on this thread about my background as a tapestry weaver had brought those memories unusually into focus this week. Then yesterday a woman came to visit who I hadn't met before, but I was suggested to her by mutual friends, as someone to connect with about her experiences with star family contact, as she is having many of the same experiences as I am of seeing and photographing ships and orbs, meeting star kin in dreams and meditations etc. When she arrived, we spoke a little about our backgrounds, and because weaving was on my mind after writing about it on your thread here, I told her how I had worked at the tapestry studio in Melbourne in the 1980s. This lady grew up in Adelaide, a city in between Perth and Melbourne - she now lives a short distance from me in the Perth hills - and it turns out that her best friend at school also became a tapestry weaver, worked at the same studio as me, and indeed we were working there at the same time, and the first tapestry I ever worked on was with that best friend. Haha.
In its 50 year history, that studio has had about 60 weavers total, and there are no more than 200 worldwide at any given time...so the odds would be kinda small. :) Haha, love it....

I hold the vision of the collective hurdle being jumped in perfect divine timing, as lightly and cleanly as possible... :meditating: :sun:

Joanna
6th May 2016, 15:55
PS: This quote just came into my inbox:

"How could self-realization possibly be anything other than being yourself?" (Bryant McGill)

:)

Maggie
8th May 2016, 04:21
PS: This quote just came into my inbox:

"How could self-realization possibly be anything other than being yourself?" (Bryant McGill)

:)

I have been thinking about Peter Erbe tonight. He was Australian and wrote a book dear to me "God I AM: From Tragic to Magic (http://www.amazon.com/God-I-Am-Tragic-Magic/dp/0646052551). A few years ago, some friends and I wanted to track him down. He had already left this life. However, my friend Lynne interacted with some of his friends.

One story that came out was very interesting. It gave a picture of someone easy to be around. Peter was not stand offish, a real "mate". He was a talanted photographer and published his photos. The book I read was a gem IMO. Peter hung out with friends who were creative. One night when he went to the frig to get some water, he picked up a glass that had some kind of something poisonous, a cleaner or solvent???. It had been put in the frig unlableled for whatever reason? Not a good idea! But Peter took a gulp. He did not react and when people worried about him, he just shrugged it off....no worries.

Apparently hardly anyone thought of the man as a Master, though IMO he obviously was: to be multi-talented, a very beloved friend and able to drink poison without care? These are the kind of wayshowers that help me.


A Quote by Peter O. Erbe

The rise beyond judgment allows love to enter. This highest of frequencies changes our physical bodies by way of a restored DNA. Thus each individual in that position becomes a transmitter of the most powerful electromagnetic frequency, affecting everything and everyone around him.
In summarizing this discourse on the balance of polarities, we say: God is All-There-Is, therefore God is ALL-encompassing. Whatever enters my realm of experience, must, of need, be God. How can I put different price tags on the various appearances of God? For the I AM in me is God. Thus I only judge myself by judging God. God is Pure Being, therefore innocent and so am I. Now I look 'out' into the mirror of Creation and see but myself and that is innocent, hence all of equal value. If witnessing destructive or discordant energy, I do not have to condone it, but I evaluate it as of equal worth to any other expression of Life.
Any experience, no matter how fearful it seems, when seen as of equal validity to any other manifestation, faced and embraced as of equal right to be, shall unify and thus release this fear in to the All-There-Is. This way it shall never manifest.

Joanna
9th May 2016, 09:42
I have been thinking about Peter Erbe tonight. He was Australian and wrote a book dear to me "God I AM: From Tragic to Magic (http://www.amazon.com/God-I-Am-Tragic-Magic/dp/0646052551). A few years ago, some friends and I wanted to track him down. He had already left this life. However, my friend Lynne interacted with some of his friends.

One story that came out was very interesting. It gave a picture of someone easy to be around. Peter was not stand offish, a real "mate". He was a talanted photographer and published his photos. The book I read was a gem IMO. Peter hung out with friends who were creative. One night when he went to the frig to get some water, he picked up a glass that had some kind of something poisonous, a cleaner or solvent???. It had been put in the frig unlableled for whatever reason? Not a good idea! But Peter took a gulp. He did not react and when people worried about him, he just shrugged it off....no worries.

Apparently hardly anyone thought of the man as a Master, though IMO he obviously was: to be multi-talented, a very beloved friend and able to drink poison without care? These are the kind of wayshowers that help me.

Maggie, I remember that book! It was on the reading list for a flower essence course I did 20 years ago! Had forgotten about it, and it's lovely to hear about the 'quiet Master' that he was while in physical life. Hmm, sounds like a Shiva, transmuting poison. :)

This reminds me of another beautiful soul, no longer in physical, who I first met at the time of reading Peter Erbe's book - an elder of the Noongar (aboriginal) tribe here, and also an unassuming man, yet so internally steady and knowing. His presence felt like a deep-rooted tree, and his soul soared with the spirit eagles. Still does, no doubt. He had a 'miraculous' healing at 5 years old, in the traditional way - he was healed literally overnight from being crippled by polio. Being in his presence definitely helped me ground with the spirit of the land here much more. /*\

Here's a couple of Aussie Masters who were outside my window having a great long communication two days ago. One carolled, the other laughed, to each other for at least 5 minutes non-stop. Haha. :D The animals and birds know the world is changing, they feel it, more than most humans are able to do currently. If people paid more attention to those they deem 'lesser beings', they'd learn much...

https://dimensionsofloveblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/dscf0275.jpg?w=415&h=296

https://dimensionsofloveblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/dscf0279.jpg?w=415&h=331

Maggie
18th May 2016, 07:36
A few years ago I read the books by Vadim Zeland "Reality Transurfing". There were some very very good points that were very useful to me. This audio book is the first book and well read. I appreciate finding it so FYI


Basic Principles of Reality Transurfing

✓ The mind interprets information using a collection of well-established labels.
✓ The soul doesn’t think and doesn’t speak, but it feels and knows.
✓ The mind is only able to create a relatively new version of a house made out of old bricks.
✓ Entirely new discoveries come from unrealized sectors.
✓ The soul serves as a mediator between entirely new information and the mind.
✓ The soul accepts unrealized information as knowledge without interpretations.
✓ If the mind is successful in interpreting the soul’s information, a discovery is made.
✓ The mind is capable of unambiguously determining the state of inner comfort.
✓ Train yourself to pay attention to inner comfort.
✓ Having refused importance, you will get the freedom to choose your destiny.
✓ Freedom of choice allows you to stop asking, stop demanding, and to stop struggling. It allows you to go andtake whatever you want.
✓ The structure of information is arranged into chains of cause and effect links.
✓ Cause and effect links give rise to the flow of variations.
✓ The paths of least resistance are arranged into separate streams.
✓ Streams in the flow of variations already have in themselves the solutions to all problems.
✓ Internal and external importance throws the mind out of the optimal stream.
✓ It is the mind, which leads you to a waterfall, and not the streams in the flow of variations.
✓ Everything is a lot easier than it seems. Give in to this simplicity.
✓ It is not the omen that works, but your attitude to it.
✓ Guiding signs point at possible turns in the flow of variations.
✓ Life tracks differ qualitatively from one another.
✓ Signs put us on alert, because they appear during a transfer to another life track.
✓ Signs can be distinguished by their ability to create a sensation that something is not quite right.
✓ Spontaneous phrases can be perceived as clear instructions, which you may act on.
✓ The condition of inner discomfort is a clear sign.
✓ If you have to talk yourself into something, it means the soul is saying “no.”
✓ If you have the possibility to refuse an uncomfortable decision – refuse it.
✓ It’s necessary to loosen the grip and accept unforeseen events in your script.
✓ Importance gets in the way of your accepting the possibility of deviations in your script.
✓ The mind strives to control, not its own movement along the flow, but the flow itself.
✓ Move the center of gravity from control to observation.
✓ Having relinquished control, you will get real control over a situation.
✓ If you move along the flow of variations, the world will come out to greet you.

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One concept that I found useful was concerning energy structures that exist and once in play seek to continue. These "pendulums" are "fed" by our energy, so need to be recognized and avoided.


First of all, the book presents the reader with a fait accompli so staggering, that not everyone can comprehend and accept it. It is always easier to live in an illusive, but comfortable world, than in a true, but scary reality. The illusion is that motivations and actions of man are supposedly controlled by his consciousness. In fact, it is not quite true. Or rather, entirely not true. Scientists take useless efforts researching human mentality (psychic?) as a separate object, as a property of a human mind. It is not about the structure of human mentality, it is about will. Human reason does not have any free will – it is controlled from outside (from without?) It is controlled not by teachers, officials or bosses, but by structural elements (structures? entities? creatures? phenomena?) of the subtle world.

As is known, the energy of thought does not disappear completely. When groups of people start thinking in the same direction, the parameters of their mental waves become identical. Individual thought energies merge into one flow. In the middle of the energy ocean, information-based structures are created. These are pendulums, invisible, but real. Having been born, pendulums start to develop independently. They tend to subjugate people, who are structural elements, to their will. They act unconsciously, as they have no reason. Pendulums cannot be characterized as some malicious forces. They remind parasitic plants, or pseudo-living programs. Being built into a structure, such programs determine (define?) its behaviour. Pendulums exist in the subtle world as superstructures over each human social group, be it a family, school, enterprise or state. It can seem incredible that people are not aware of acting in the interests of pendulums, even if they do it unintentionally. Nevertheless, it is a fact. Any structure exists and develops not only as a result of intentional actions of people, who are its elements. A structure is ruled by a pendulum, like any work of an automatic mechanism is ruled by an algorithm. Members of the structure can perform free actions, but they are not free in their motives and, as a rule, have to act unintentionally in the interests of the structure. Pendulums feed on people’s energy. When you are annoyed by something or indignant, you give energy to a pendulum. Everything that can cause your strong negative reactions is provoked by pendulums. Negative energy is their favourite dish.

For instance, at the start of a football match there is a certain ball-shaped object hanging over the stadium. This ball is invisible for a human eye, as it exists in the subtle world. It starts to reach out for every fan with its real energy beams that are like feelers. As emotions are heated over the match, the pendulum is filled with the energy and grows until it becomes really huge. When the game is over, it is compressed to a small ball and flies away. What is horrible about it is that pendulums not only absorb energy, but also, in a subtle way, make people act so that they release more energy. If you are tense and worried about something, people around you are sure to do things that irritate you, and they will do that right now, when you want to be left alone.

Children start playing up, although they behaved themselves (they were quiet?) before. Someone who is at your side suddenly becomes a nuisance. All kinds of characters keep getting under your feet, pestering you with their problems. You are persistently being hindered by all kinds of obstacles. If you are waiting for someone impatiently, he will never come, if you do not feel like seeing anyone, they are certain to turn up, and so forth.

You can confirm that the world often gets on your nerves. Certainly, it depends, but on the whole, the main principle is as follows: if at a given moment something can make you lose your balance, as ill luck would have it, it will definitely happen.

Let’s assume you are in a hurry, afraid of being late. From that moment everything starts working against you. People block your way, stalking along.

You need to walk through the door quickly, and there appears a whole queue of idlers, who are hardly moving their legs. On the highway it is the same story with cars. There must be some plot against you. This outer pressure is getting more and more intense with your irritation. The stronger the tension, the more active are people in their annoying you. What is of interest, is that they are not acting so deliberately; it does not even occur to them they could be in somebody’s way (could disturb somebody). The matter is that the driving force, forming unconscious motives, is not inside a person’s mentality, but beyond it.

So, a question arises: how to resist the influence of pendulums? For this purpose, you should stop being an oyster that reacts negatively to any irritant. In other words, you should stop maintaining consciousness and should not yield to provocations. Make a conscious effort to react to the irritants, and they will stop annoying you. But there is more to come. There are much more significant and frightful things in the world, happening through the fault of pendulums. Wars, revolutions, fights for raw materials and sale markets, competition, terrorism – all this is just a tip of the iceberg that you can see. In the invisible, subtle basis of these phenomena there is an incessant fight of pendulums. It is them who provoke practically all conflicts, because they feed on the energy of a conflict. On the other side of the dual mirror, in the subtle world, there are so many things you’d rather not know about.

You would probably ask, how can that be possible? After all, people are at war with each other on their own initiative, aren’t they? Nevertheless, the real initiators are pendulums. Let us take as an example a relatively primitive structure – an anthill. Science cannot provide an intelligible answer how the colony is run. It is surprising that in the anthill there is an accurate allocation of responsibilities, but there is no hierarchy. Then why are all the insects in an anthill as well-coordinated as an organization with centralized management?

Ants communicate with each other by means of odorous substances – pheromones. Smell paths help to find the way to food and home. But how is the information transferred to all the colony members simultaneously? Any higher forms of information exchange among ants are out of the question. Why use primitive qualities like smells then?

Well, what is it that unites separate members into an organized colony? A pendulum is. Simultaneously with the formation and development of a structure an information-based energy element is formed, which assumes (takes upon itself?) the functions of managing and stabilizing this structure. Between the pendulum and the elements of the structure there are direct and reverse bonds. A pendulum exists at the expense of the energy of its adherents and synchronizes their activities, uniting them into an organized community.

The same is true of human society – all processes are controlled by these subtle structural elements. The world is turning into a matrix by leaps and bounds, and this is not science fiction. Certainly, it is not like in a famous movie, where people are being grown in cells capsules, their life being merely a virtual illusion. But the actual situation is quite close to that.

In order to drive a person into a matrix, it is necessary to wind a net round him, a net built on dependence. Recently, there have appeared new types of dependence: food has turned into forage that causes obesity; virtual computer reality gave rise to game- and Internet-addiction; without mobile phones people suffer attacks of melancholy and loneliness. The worst thing is that a person, enslaved by a system, does not only lose freedom of choice, but he starts wanting exactly what the system wants. So, these are the processes that are going on all over the world. That is why our objective is to preserve consciousness, so that we should not wake up in a matrix cell one day. We seem to be a sort of forage crops, which pendulums grow for their purposes. A human society is organized so that it cannot exist without pendulums. But they also need us. A reasonable person is able to use pendulums for his own aims. There are a lot of possibilities here, but it is a separate subject.INTERVIEW WITH VADIM ZELAND (http://www.talasi.org/index.php/en/23-srpski/transurfing-balkan/102-interview-with-vadim-zeland)

Joanna
18th May 2016, 16:14
Maggie, this description of how human consciousness is co-opted into supporting, wanting and feeding a semi-autonomous but symbiotic structural system based on pendulums existing in a subtle world seems to me to be a fair metaphor for the relationship between third dimension and the (lower bands of) the fourth dimension - as it exists here, in a highly dualized mode.
If one doesn't see from beyond this, however - which means being able to encompass the 3-4D relationship without attaching one's sense of reality, life, worth and purpose into it - one can get enthralled (I use that word deliberately) by the power-driven co-dependent connection between the two....and as he says, 'a reasonable person is able to use pendulums for his own aims'. That's fine, if you want to keep playing the game...because if you are in the mindset of using the pendulums, the duality energies, for your own aims (no matter how altruistic or egocentrically motivated they may be), then you're going to keep living in the reality (of the illusion) of those energies.

Of his basic principles of reality transurfing, some of them resonate for me, and some don't.
"The mind is capable of unambiguously determining the state of inner comfort"? Well, it would be lovely - and simplify things - if that were true, but actually the mind is very capable of evading and avoiding truly determining the deeper states of inner comfort or discomfort if doing so will challenge a particular reality narrative it wants to hang onto (for security, pride, apathy or whatever other purpose). You have to know your mind really well, and have a very transparent relationship with it, for it to unambiguously determine anything without hidden, often completely subconscious, agendas.
This principle: "If you have to talk yourself into something, it means the soul is saying “no”, on the other hand, I can happily go along with. :)

Maggie
18th May 2016, 20:26
Maggie, this description of how human consciousness is co-opted into supporting, wanting and feeding a semi-autonomous but symbiotic structural system based on pendulums existing in a subtle world seems to me to be a fair metaphor for the relationship between third dimension and the (lower bands of) the fourth dimension - as it exists here, in a highly dualized mode.
If one doesn't see from beyond this, however - which means being able to encompass the 3-4D relationship without attaching one's sense of reality, life, worth and purpose into it - one can get enthralled (I use that word deliberately) by the power-driven co-dependent connection between the two....and as he says, 'a reasonable person is able to use pendulums for his own aims'. That's fine, if you want to keep playing the game...because if you are in the mindset of using the pendulums, the duality energies, for your own aims (no matter how altruistic or egocentrically motivated they may be), then you're going to keep living in the reality (of the illusion) of those energies.

Of his basic principles of reality transurfing, some of them resonate for me, and some don't.
"The mind is capable of unambiguously determining the state of inner comfort"? Well, it would be lovely - and simplify things - if that were true, but actually the mind is very capable of evading and avoiding truly determining the deeper states of inner comfort or discomfort if doing so will challenge a particular reality narrative it wants to hang onto (for security, pride, apathy or whatever other purpose). You have to know your mind really well, and have a very transparent relationship with it, for it to unambiguously determine anything without hidden, often completely subconscious, agendas.
This principle: "If you have to talk yourself into something, it means the soul is saying “no”, on the other hand, I can happily go along with. :)

I think you clarified the 3-4D relationship well!! Thoughts are considered to be 4th dimensional "things" by many. Then when we see the expression of thoughts in the 3rd, this is the secondary manifestation. The space of of variations has any number we can imagine of "thought things". The ability to know what is ours and what is others insertion of "thought form" is powerful and part of "awakening". Is it possible to take as FACT that " we choose" to support thought into its "3Dform" manifestation? Is it possible to take as FACT all 3D appearance arises FROM the subtle plane???

From my POV, I'll just say I do take it as fact.
I know words get in the way but I perceive how the problem of "lack thinking" in my own case is that I have a tendency to shape my experience from "thought things" in this "lack pattern". I actually feel familiar-ly comfortable with this "shape" of my choice of thoughts?

You said

"The mind is capable of unambiguously determining the state of inner comfort"? Well, it would be lovely - and simplify things - if that were true, but actually the mind is very capable of evading and avoiding truly determining the deeper states of inner comfort or discomfort if doing so will challenge a particular reality narrative it wants to hang onto (for security, pride, apathy or whatever other purpose)."

The transparent relationship I expect to uncover is possibly achieved by way of clearing MY energetic conditions: " familiar shapes" that I hold embedded in MY energy field? People have so often reported relief when energy methods are used..."healing" of PATTERNS at an energetic level by way of assistance form others. However, I think we need to clear these patterns FOR and BY OUR SELVES or they recur.

IMO I discovered a real un-creating technique that I am using to help become transparent to myself. IT uses roses! Jim Self is sharing a very powerful method IMO that is simple and leads to resolving some "hidden, often completely subconscious, agendas" I have been confused by within my mind.

The webinar is long (again....but I like these long videos) but the technique starts at 18:04. I personally LOVE this technique and highly recommend it!!!

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Once upon a time I think I received an invitation:
"Would you like to learn to create and un-create? Would you like to play a game of transition form unconscious to conscious choice? Do you enjoy intensity and challenge? The default is that you may unconsciously decide to exit the game when "your game" becomes dis-satisfying. The growing edge is You may learn how to shift the game so that it reaches greater and greater depth of satisfaction"

Maggie
26th August 2016, 16:15
I really enjoyed listening to this podcast from higher side chats.


Mike Sententia | Direct Magick, Entity Contact, Energy Healing (http://thehighersidechats.com/?powerpress_pinw=3130-podcast)

I am not sure what I think about "spirits" (though I do have the experience that there is a consciousness field that is aware) and I do think there is a universal field of force/energy. Magick is "changing consciousness at will" utilizing "the force" with intent IMO. Mike Sententia looks at all this as systems and software (though he does talk about working with spirits). He talks about strengthening the "ethereal muscles".

"Real magick changes the external world.
(Many things we call magick, though, are placebo and suggestion, not real magick. We’ll talk about how to tell the difference later in this book.)" Mike Sententia

"Strengthening Your Ethereal Muscles: Mental Posture

Your physical posture is how you hold your body: Which muscles are engaged, which are relaxed, how they move.

Your mental posture is how you hold your mind: Which parts are engaged, which are relaxed, and how they move. You know how your mind feels different when you’re watching TV vs driving vs writing? Those are all mental postures.

In Direct Magick, we use mental posture to engage our ethereal muscles, so they’re listening and ready to respond to our intent.

By the way, most mages learn mental posture at some point. If you can put yourself into a magickal state of mind, congratulations, you already know mental posture. Skim this section, but feel free to skip the exercises.

Step 1: Finding Your Posture

Step 1 is about noticing the mental posture you use for magick.

When I do magick, I’m focused and alert. It’s a trance, but not zoned-out or unthinking. It’s close to the flow state when people write, play music, dance, or otherwise create. (Or play video games.) I’m focused on my ethereal muscles, and less aware of my body.

To recognize your mental posture, start by relaxing, and notice how your mind feels. Not your head or face, but your mind, your thinking. Create an image that represents this — maybe a glowing brain, or a serene stream, or something else. Remember, the point of a visualization is to speak to your unconscious, so use whatever feels natural.

Then, do your energy meditation. Note how your mind feels. It’s often easier to feel changes as they happen, so pay special attention as you start and end the meditation. Do this several times, until you get a feel for it.

(Note: Don’t build energy in your head. If you do, you’ll notice the energy, not the mental posture. Also, remember to release the energy after each energy meditation.)

Once you can feel your mental posture change, watch your posture through a whole session, from relaxed to energy meditation and back again.

Once that’s comfortable, you’re ready to make a visualization. If your calm mind was a serene stream, ask what kind of stream would represent your magick-focused mind. If your calm mind was a glowing brain, ask how your magick-focused brain would look. Remember, this is just symbolic, so it’s not important to be neurologically accurate. (Unless your unconscious feels that an accurate visualization is important to you personally.)

Optional: Now that you’re familiar with mental posture, notice how your mind feels as you read or listen to music. You can even create a visualization for non-magickal focus, then use it to get into the right state for your everyday work, too.

Step 2: Maintaining Your Mental Posture

In Step 2, you’ll do an energy meditation, then use Step 1’s visualization to maintain that posture. This is easier than using the visualization to engage your posture.

Do your energy meditation as before, and notice your mental posture. Now, alongside your energy visualization, do the mental posture visualization you created in Step 1. Hold both in your mind. Then ground and end your energy visualization. Maintain your mental posture using the posture visualization.

Notice your mental posture, then start another energy meditation. You should notice your energy responding instantly, without the several-second lag that typically happens as you engage your ethereal muscles.

Practice this until it’s comfortable.

Optional: Step 2.5

Do Step 2, but rest for a few seconds before doing the second energy meditation. During this rest, stop focusing on your mental posture. Let your mind relax.

After the rest, focus on your mental posture (using the visualization from Step 1) before doing the energy meditation. You should notice the same instant energy as in Step 2.

Step 3: Engaging Your Mental Posture

In Step 3, we’ll do the full technique: Using the visualization to engage your mental posture before doing magick.

Calm your mind, and focus on your calm-mind visualization from Step 1. Then, transition to your magick-focused-mind visualization. Do this before using any other visualization.

Once you’re in that posture, do your energy meditation. As in Step 2, you should notice an immediate result.

Success: How to Know You Did it Right

The point of mental posture is to engage your ethereal muscles, so they respond to any visualization, even a new one.

So let’s try that. Pick a new visualization for energy: Fire, stars, water, plants growing, etc. Make it something you haven’t used before, and something not 100% intuitive to your mind.

Now repeat Step 3 using your new energy visualization. As you do the visualization, hold in your mind, “water = energy.” (Or whatever visualization you’re using). It should work roughly as well as your normal energy meditation, and it should respond immediately, as in Steps 2 and 3.

How to Use Mental Posture

How do you use mental posture for other magick?

The same as in Step 3: Use your visualization to engage your ethereal muscles, then do whatever magick you’re going to do. That might be a visualization, a ritual, an energy healing, a psychic intuition, or anything else.

Note that different types of magick use slightly different mental postures. In this chapter, you learned the mental posture for working with energy. It should work well for any magick. But if you want, you can create postures for each type of magick you do. Just replace the energy meditation with a simple ritual, energy healing, or other magick, and create a new visualization for that magick’s posture.

Aside: The Limits of Magick

What happens if you engage your mental posture, then visualize flying or shooting fireballs?

Nothing happens, sadly. The mental posture will help you communicate your intent to your ethereal muscles. But your ethereal muscles need to know how to fulfill that intent. Healing, manifesting, and other common acts of magick usually work well. Flying and fireballs do not.

An Initiation into Direct Magick (http://www.magickofthought.com/books/an-initiation-into-direct-magick-book-1/)

Maggie
6th March 2017, 00:30
Check out Nosso Lar on veoh and the interview with Jurgen Ziewe. Both are suggesting the lawfulness of manifestation.

Life After Death Dimensions & Preparation with Jurgen Ziewe
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Review: Vistas of Infinity by Jurgen Ziew (http://obeoutlook.blogspot.com/2015/10/review-vistas-of-infinity-by-jurgen.html)
.............some of his experiences matched the movie Astral City (Nosso Lar) seen here (http://www.veoh.com/watch/v91766917KKy4fyYp), both in the scenery and the people he encountered.

Ziewe's OBEs also partly explain an oddity reported by author Robert Bruce: he talked about how the astral plane can appear with repeating patterns, almost like it had floor tiles. (See the cover of his book Astral Dynamics for example.)
"Frequently, when choosing to go for a stroll in these pre-Heaven realms and looking at the ground, a number of curious phenomena may be observed, such as the ground organising itself in a geometric and symmetric pattern, so it may appear as if one is walking on some kind of Persian rug, but these patterns will keep changing in accordance with one's feelings. I noticed the same phenomena when walking on our physical Earth after an hour or so of deep meditation. My explanation is that the inner experienced symmetry during meditation is projected through the eyes into the world and reorganises everything more symmetrically." (pg. 191)

Where does this all lead us? To Consciousness with a capital C, and something I've always maintained: The person you think you are is really only a very tiny fragment of who you really are. As Ziewe puts it:
"Consciousness was clearly showing me that my physical life was just a small part of many other life experiences and that, at night, possibly in deep dream state, or even parallel to my waking state, I had been busy pursuing one or more alternative existences. With this thought, I sank into a semi-meditative state and I began to remember more and more detail with astonishing clarity; I gained the realization that the life I am leading back in my physical body is only the tip of the iceberg, one of many lives I am leading - or, perhaps better, Consciousness is leading - each one of equal significance." (pg. 169).

So what is at the core of Consciousness when you drill down deep enough?
"From the viewpoint of Singularity this lonesome being that we consider to be us, which struggles to survive, has in reality never been an independent unit, but always been part of a whole, no matter how it perceives itself or on which level of reality it is focused on. It has always been part of a greater unifying Consciousness, but as long as we struggle, want, desire (even desiring to be united with our Singular Source), we experience ourselves as separate. In this state of perceived division, Singularity cannot reach us and bestow its blessings of reunion because we've erected the artificial barriers of separation via our personalised viewpoint. When the barriers are gone, the blessing starts flooding in and we then firmly experience our natural connection to our original and authentic Source. As far as Source is concerned, we have never been separated, not for a single moment, even if we were to dwell in abject spiritual poverty and darkness." (pg. 195)
Here's another quote I liked a lot because it reminded me of my novel, The Gospel According to Mike:
"In reality we are all 'chosen ones', linked to our Source. but because we are all, it doesn't make us anything special." (pg. 197)
So how can we get there ourselves? Ziewe suggests daily meditation, and gives us a lot of important clues. For instance:
"We may be meditating until the cows come home, but we cannot will ourselves into the position because the thing that wills is the very thing that needs to be surrendered. Singularity decides when we are ready to receive it and it does so by administering an intense experience of ecstasy and rapturous blessing. All we are then able to do is completely surrender any trace of our old mocked-up or inauthentic persona." (pg. 199)
Still, according to Ziewe, this experience is open to anyone:
"We also need to liberate ourselves from the idea that this is a state of Consciousness reserved for some spiritual elite. Quite the opposite: it is humility and surrender that will grant the humblest of people residency here if their heart is pure, committed to authenticity and surrendered to its Source." (pg. 226



Life After Death Dimensions & Preparation with Jurgen Ziewe

Topics covered in the video include:

1. An explanation of non-local consciousness (NLC) and the dimensions of consciousness after death. (2:23)
- NDE’s / Near Death Experiences are not universal, unique to each person
- each person has their own “death” and “near death” experience
- how to collect effective data about other dimensions
- spatial reality is not after death reality
- our mind and feelings will determine the reality we experience after death
- why Jurgen wrote the book

2. Biggest misconceptions about death: it is an eternal resting phase. (12:20)
- R.I.P fallacy
- quote from Jurgen’s mother: “death is simply an extended form of gathering valuable information and experience” (13:09)
- how our work continues beyond this dimension of reality
- how other dimensions provide us other powers and abilities, not available here
- the impact of positive and creative attitudes
- why people don’t “fly” on lower dimensions

3. The importance of preparing for our life after death. (17:54)
- everyday is a first of an infinite future
- we get to continue our mental and spiritual work
- practicing and priming ourselves for greater states of consciousness
- no end in the process of “awakening” or “enlightenment”

4. How much of ourselves, our identity, we get to keep and what we need to shed beyond this life. (24:14)
- we exist in NLC (lower levels) with "identity intact" but to reach more sublime levels of Consciousness we need to transcend Ego identification
- the downside of Ayahuasca and similar experiences
- the pros and challenges of meditation
- how to experience permanent Ego shedding

5. An exploration of why suicide is not a way out, and what may be experienced in other dimensions as a result. (30:44)
- the relocation of our problem to another level
- the challenges and stress created due to beliefs
- why believing something does not make it so, or automatically shape our reality
- Jurgen’s experience in lower dimensions where we have to face our actions, experience what we have created
- how to live effectively for positive experiences here and in the afterlife (39:33)

6. How to work in accordance with the Laws of Nature and balance our “karma”. (41:28)
- the loss of knowing Truth
- the essential components of clarity and wisdom
- what to do if we feel “lost” in this dimension or others

7. Exploring reincarnation in context of life after death, time and space, and our roles, relationships and relatives. (49:34)
- our lifetimes as a “tapestry”; connected energy centers
- the access to understanding how our lifetimes and experiences connect
- experiencing the totality of our being
- the close bonds between those we help and those we hurt

8. Final words on how to deal with fear and insecurity dealing with death and the afterlife. (57:26)
- we cannot control reality, but we don’t have to be controlled by reality
- the role of acceptance and surrender

9. Jurgen’s websites and contact. (1:04:45)
- update on 3D virtual reality project

Elen
6th March 2017, 12:55
I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of this Maggie...I too have had a NDE that put me on a path of searching for truth. :h5:

Maggie
17th March 2017, 03:48
"Walter Russell had the freedom of the artist to pursue scientific inquiry in free form poetic-ness: marrying science with spirituality" paraphrase from Matt Presti



“No one can make a sale, write a book or invent anything without first having that deep reverence which makes him know and feel that he is an interpreter of the thought-world, one who is creating a product of some kind to fit a purpose. If you are alone long enough to get thoroughly acquainted with yourself, you will hear whisperings from the universal source of all consciousness which will inspire you. These are actual messages, actual revelations, telling you, guiding you, showing you the way to the Source of the thought-world into the world of what we call creation to produce through your interpretations the images which crowd your mind which you do not see. You will soon find yourself using the cosmic forces which you also cannot see, instead of working blindly in the dark.

That thought energy is focused in our brains just as the spot of light is focused by a lens to become a more brilliant spot of light, gathered together from a large area into a point until it is strong enough to burn. Well, you feel that consciousness or that universal intelligence of space itself because of that sensation focused in your body which deceives you into believing that your body is you. Well, it isn’t. Your body is merely a machine made to express the thoughts that flow through you and nothing more.

I learned to cross the threshold of my studio with reverence, as though I were entering a shrine set apart for me to become co-creator with the Universal Thinker of all things. I do not say as I enter my studio, ‘I am a sculptor, I ought to be able to do that thing.’ Instead of that I say, ‘I am an interpreter who can think that thing within me which is worthy of being done.’ When I get that feeling, that rhythm, that meter, that measure which comes to me as an inspiration, then I know that I can produce it, and nobody under Heaven can tell me that I cannot produce it.”Walter Russell http://www.philosophy.org/5-rules-of-success.html

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Darren Colomb ..... his start and ongoing study of the Russell teachings and his interests in clean energy production methods as well as his progress with current ongoing research. ...... Darren is the Lead Scientist on the University of Science and Philosophy's Science and Research Committee.

For more information concerning the collective works of Dr. Walter and Lao Russell or the University of Science and Philosophy visit http://Philosophy.org or call 1-800-882 LOVE (5683)


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Maggie
26th March 2017, 00:46
One of my very most important teachers Neville Goddard


Neville Goddard: A Cosmic Philosopher
BY MITCH HOROWITZ

Wikipedia recently took down its page for Neville Goddard (1905-1972), one of the most important and influential New Thought voices of the past century. I felt it important that there be a reliable biography of Neville online. The following article focuses only partially on the linear details of Neville’s life and more on the growth and meaning of his message. This essay will be available in print in Fall 2016 in TarcherPerigee’s reissue of Neville’s first book, At Your Command.

The words of spiritual writer and lecturer Neville Goddard retain their power to electrify more than forty years after his death. In a sonorous, clipped tone that was preserved on thousands of tape recordings made during his lifetime, and now widely circulated online, Neville asserted with complete ease what many would find fantastical: The human imagination is God – and our thoughts create our world, in the most literal sense.
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Neville from the frontispiece of The Search, 1946.

Neville Goddard was perhaps the last century’s most intellectually substantive and charismatic purveyor of the philosophy generally called New Thought. He wrote more than ten books under the solitary pen name Neville, and was a popular speaker on metaphysical themes from the late 1930s until his death in 1972.

Possessed of a self-educated and uncommonly sharp intellect, Neville espoused a spiritual vision that was bold and total: Everything you see and experience, including other people, is the result of your own thoughts and emotional states. Each of us dreams into existence an infinitude of realities and outcomes. When you realize this, Neville taught, you will discover yourself to be a slumbering branch of the Creator clothed in human form, and at the helm of limitless possibilities.

Neville’s thought system influenced a wide range of spiritual thinkers and writers, from bestselling author Joseph Murphy to mystical iconoclast Carlos Castaneda. He now has an ardent online following, connected by the proliferation of his digitized lectures and books. More still, Neville’s reputation is growing as his mystical teachings are found to comport with key issues in today’s quantum physics debate.

Yet little is known about this spiritual teacher who exerted so unusual a pull on the American spiritual scene of latter twentieth century. Neville cultivated an air of mystery, which has contributed to the intrigue and questions around his ideas – and where they came from.http://www.harvbishop.com/?p=710


Mitch Horowitz' lecture explores the principle of “Mind as Builder,” a core theme from the Edgar Cayce readings that also appears in a wide range of ancient and modern spiritual thought worldwide. Mitch Horowitz is vice-president and editor-in-chief at Tarcher/Penguin, the division of Penguin books dedicated to metaphysical literature. He is the PEN Award-winning author of Occult America (Bantam) and One Simple Idea: How Positive Thinking Reshaped Modern Life. The Washington Post says Mitch “treats esoteric ideas and movements with an even-handed intellectual studiousness that is too often lost in today’s raised-voice discussions.” Mitch has written the new introduction to the reprint of There Is a River, the classic biography of the famous psychic Edgar Cayce.

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New Age is now often used in a pejorative sense BUT it is has noble roots and Mitch Horowitz is able to enlighten concerning the roots of a very American metaphysical path.....

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Maggie
13th April 2017, 14:28
Another very well explained talk on manifestation. Edgar Cayce's medically oriented readings were very well documented and revealed to be "true". I keep thinking that this verification can be a vote to trust the knowing he shared of other less "concrete" and empowering information.

Eternal life with physical bodies temporary. No eternal unpardonable "sin" and opportunity here to learn form actions. BENEVOLENT OPPORTUNITY to experience a child proof universe of "form". When we learn to always play well with others, earth here and now becomes heaven. Yippee YES!!

Edgar Cayce on How Spirit Manifests in 3-D

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Maggie
18th April 2017, 02:33
John Dimartini
The Great Work is a Modern Day Mystery School designed to help you meet the challenges and opportunities of life in the 21st century.

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Maggie
20th April 2017, 01:15
There are many many paths to reach the field.
Bashar talks about "permission slips" being all the tools we choose to use to achieve our purpose.
The means to our Purpose and destiny lie in the field.

THIS means is simply that divine energy that creates worlds.
This energy is seeking to stretch into matter through us: our bodies and what we create.

I was preaching to my friend but she sai while I was talking I glowed.
She has symptoms and challenges of advanced parkinsons and my preaching was about healing ANYTHING IF we do the work.
Our intentions matter.
Our intentions can be chosen deliberately.
Our intentions can either be secret subconscious habits OR new and distinct based on our ideals.
We cannot get to the field except by walking the paths we develop ourselves.
All these teachers I love to hear are sharing their path to the field.

The thing is and the secret is
We have to actually lie in the field and feel and BE aware of "reality" from that angle to gain a power.
This power is to shine the energy of being in the field towards what matters to us.
The energy is not in our control but claiming it by feeling it's TRUTH (the love there and the benevolent and intimate connection), we can send it where it can do us good.
This is such a special gift we have... to go and to lie in the field and let miracles and magic express itself through us.

This meditation is a place to get in touch with that space where the power arises.

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Aianawa
20th April 2017, 05:37
Cheers, feel to try this, your or this thread really pushes moi to ask if your shy or not, totcast wise ?.

enjoy being
7th May 2018, 13:58
I get you Maggie, Wisdom needs no defense, it stands on it's own merit. I personally find it everywhere: Seth, Abraham Hicks, Bashar and Chris Thomas etc. etc. There are "little nuggets" all over the place, especially if you know the difference between listening and following.

Thanks for posting those videos, they were great!

This is an old thread DT linked to.

Thank you Maggie and Elen for this bit, relating to some examples of different thinking in the prior posts and pages.

Common reoccurring thing of late is to see a tendency for universal creative field or source or chi or god or whatever, to only be recognised by some individuals if it is and has the names of their chosen 'show'.
Wisdom etc comes in different packages but can be the same wisdom. And that is the truth.
Manifestation is getting out of our own way? Manifestation is being our own way?

Emil El Zapato
7th May 2018, 14:16
I don't have any idea about that but I don't need to defend SETH anyway. Any Good in the information would not be made better by a defense of SETH. We all choose to make our own opinion. Blessings to you! Maggie

Seth is wise, but fallible...

And in any case, this is where the 'receivers' of information go off the rails in my opinion. It is about what 'one tells themselves' only...All of our thoughts need our input to properly manifest things in our life. Blind allegiance to 'words' is a grave mistake in my estimation...It is about balance and common sense in the end. It is acting in the physical world in accord with our level of manifestation.

enjoy being
7th May 2018, 14:21
That's what Maggie and Elen are saying yes?

I don't think I can be fussed reading Seth myself. Plenty of stuff may be good. But the words or the language gets a bit indulgent for me. Well in general I suppose, just a bit bored with all the superfluous comic-con events surrounding talking about people rather than ideas.

Emil El Zapato
7th May 2018, 14:47
That's what Maggie and Elen are saying yes?

I don't think I can be fussed reading Seth myself. Plenty of stuff may be good. But the words or the language gets a bit indulgent for me. Well in general I suppose, just a bit bored with all the superfluous comic-con events surrounding talking about people rather than ideas.

:)

Well, that was intended as my 'focus of power' thoughtful idea... :)

enjoy being
7th May 2018, 15:11
I liked it too :thup:

enjoy being
7th May 2018, 15:36
Haha, cheers. I use :thumbsup: on purpose because A: It was an old code for a thumbs up on another site. And B: I don't like the aesthetics of that blue one or the other one, (like)

Dreamtimer
7th May 2018, 16:07
Sorry, I wasn't thinking about the fact that you like your own style of emoji. Mine often change with spellcheck, that's where my head was at.

Glad you took it in stride. ;)

enjoy being
7th May 2018, 19:57
Haha, it is all good, hardly worth mentioning on my part, but thought I may as well just so y'all know there's often some crazy reason for unlinked links or nonexistent emoji : pedanticweirdoface:

Dreamtimer
8th May 2018, 11:38
LOL I wish I knew more keyboard emojis ;P /o\ \o/

Do those second two mean anything to you? (I hope they're not naughty)

enjoy being
8th May 2018, 11:47
/o\ handstand
\o/ on a mirror?

Elen
9th May 2018, 09:24
This is an old thread DT linked to.

Thank you Maggie and Elen for this bit, relating to some examples of different thinking in the prior posts and pages.

Common reoccurring thing of late is to see a tendency for universal creative field or source or chi or god or whatever, to only be recognised by some individuals if it is and has the names of their chosen 'show'.
Wisdom etc comes in different packages but can be the same wisdom. And that is the truth.
Manifestation is getting out of our own way? Manifestation is being our own way?

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Maggie
9th May 2018, 16:24
This is an old thread DT linked to.

Thank you Maggie and Elen for this bit, relating to some examples of different thinking in the prior posts and pages.

Common reoccurring thing of late is to see a tendency for universal creative field or source or chi or god or whatever, to only be recognised by some individuals if it is and has the names of their chosen 'show'.
Wisdom etc comes in different packages but can be the same wisdom. And that is the truth.
Manifestation is getting out of our own way? Manifestation is being our own way?

Thanks. I treally truly wish to convey the essence of emojinis of gratitude. Hope it is communicated. Here it is

Dreamtimer
10th May 2018, 01:54
...emojinis...

Great word! :shapeshift::magic:

enjoy being
10th May 2018, 03:45
There was none. That works though even if there was meant to be some.

Maggie
10th May 2018, 05:34
There was none. That works though even if there was meant to be some.

There was no thing. No thing is flexibly all occaisional and suits all and every one.

Dreamtimer
7th December 2018, 21:17
Maggie has spoken much about healing ourselves. Here is a doctor who has studied this and believes we can.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWQfe__fNbs

Maggie
8th December 2018, 02:29
Maggie has spoken much about healing ourselves. Here is a doctor who has studied this and believes we can.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWQfe__fNbs

Thanks for that video DT. Yes, I absolutely know we can but WILL we?

Here is another bit of information from Joe Dispenza (and thoughts are the language of the brain) which feels great to me and encourages my confidence (and feelings are the language of the body). I am always struck with the FACT that whatever we experience is already in the past by the time we rcognize it. If we WILL heal, it has to be in the moment BEFORE we are "healed".

So I am aware now that the work is in the timeless unknown potential which we may access in the present moment. IF we WILL be faithfiul to our power to be new, we may be renewed by a new mind. This is the most exciting and reassuring line of inquiry and moving to a new state of being.

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Maggie
10th December 2018, 03:17
The results of increased immersion in a new paradigm is seemingly miraculous... "Time in history to know how... health and wellness can be as infectious as disease"

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Aianawa
10th December 2018, 06:53
Super impressed with Joe so far, thankyou ladies.

Dreamtimer
10th December 2018, 12:03
YW :tiphat:

Maggie
12th December 2018, 19:14
YW :tiphat:

Was that a "Thank God" (i.e. hats off YahWeh)?
Just kidding but what did that mean?

Yiphee High Oh High YEAH! Super Human Healing....
That's what I am talking about

This just out

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and two weeks ago

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and this one earlier

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Thank God (that's us) no bowing needed,
just some elbow grease and some cleanser for the muck we have been walking in for a bit.
I think it is definitely good to KNOW something.

Dreamtimer
12th December 2018, 20:13
YW = You're Welcome

I like your interpretations.:)

Maggie
12th December 2018, 21:01
YW = You're Welcome

I like your interpretations.:)

OH thanks.

I like this power of 8 work concept.

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Maggie
13th December 2018, 04:22
OH thanks.

I like this power of 8 work concept.

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I decided to participate in the masterclass. I highly recommend the videos I posted. It is about taking these ideas to a new level of community intention. IF a person needs no more information which would convince that the miraculous IS true, one then feels wistful about sharing the excitement. Something is whispering....WE will be in the community that is made up of others WILLING to practice what my heart knew is possible. We may not have met yet but we knew each other all along.

Maggie
17th December 2018, 00:38
I think that the big question I have is IF all experience is mediated NOT by the physical but the mind, how DO we control the mediators for physical effects? Psychedelics do unlock learned habitual responses and Marijuana does help to relax the body but the BIG advance is doing it by consciousness alone. In this interview, Andrew Weil and Joe Rogan braoch the subject. Joe Dispenza is still the only one I know about who is at the vangaurd of consistent conscious change in what we have believed is true about the body.

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Maggie
31st December 2018, 22:46
I have always been interested in The Flying Friar St. Joseph of Copertino.

Although I am sure the "Catholic Church" has been a totally horrid system, many individuals (including Padre Pio and others also) who were part of it were mystics. The ecstatic states and expanded states they accessed triggered amazing capacities humans may experience. IMO these are possible yet inexplicable in our "mundane" understanding. In 2019, may the possible become probable for all who are intersested through knowing our innate expanded consciousness!

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Emil El Zapato
31st December 2018, 23:46
he's my man...the idiot Saint..there was obviously more to him than met the ear...

Emil El Zapato
1st January 2019, 14:54
What is interesting...I guess...Is that occasionally I do this in my dreams. I demonstrate it to others to 'teach' them it is solely about mental intention. The stronger the intention the faster or more 'vigorously' one levitates (e.g. flies). It is fun in the dreams to travel around the countryside, even the whole world at different speeds and different altitudes. The faster the distance traveled the more fun and less ennui in the process.

Emil El Zapato
1st January 2019, 15:00
The info in the video does dovetail with 'The End of Upside Down Thinking' as that book conjectures that the less refined the brain function the more open to streaming consciousness is the mind.


Here's another thing:

If anyone ever witnesses a Rose or any flower probably, that inexplicably blooms then rest assured you are 'covered'. :)

There are a number of things like this...inexplicably smell flowers, etc. It's kind of a cool spiritual reassurance.

Maggie
1st January 2019, 17:33
The info in the video does dovetail with 'The End of Upside Down Thinking' as that book conjectures that the less refined the brain function the more open to streaming consciousness is the mind.


Here's another thing:

If anyone ever witnesses a Rose or any flower probably, that inexplicably blooms then rest assured you are 'covered'. :)

There are a number of things like this...inexplicably smell flowers, etc. It's kind of a cool spiritual reassurance.

I am very glad the discussion was on your wave length NAP. I looked up your book title

An End to Upside Down Thinking: Dispelling the Myth That the Brain Produces Consciousness, and the Implications for EverydayLife
Oct 9, 2018
by Mark Gober

I use Amazon because I have no guilt and shame of using its wide convenience and the vast array of wonders to order.
If one signs up for Prime, there are some features like certain Kindle books being available to borrow. If anone (in USA?) has Prime, your referenece is available for download as a Kindle borrow.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=%27The+End+of+Upside+Down+Thinking%27

This is the year that I am going to intensely recognize as a prelude to the end of the world as I "knew" it.

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The "world" is a construct. The "world" is a thoughtform. There is only energy and information organized by my consciousness. Do these concepts ever cross the lips as mere blabber? They mean NOTHING unless we live them ourselves. There are so many common threads with the ancient teachings of Know Thyself. WHOM do we know? Is it not time to stop making complaints and as in NAP's dream, bring flying to one's consciousness and dwell upon THAT?

I am proclaiming 2019 as the break out year when I stop talking EVER about certain dead horse beaten subjects. I will speak my own mind which is spoken EVEN in the interior of thought. For instance if I find myself thinking of the same old s%^&e (SUFFERING), I will stop and erace and implant the idea of NIRVANA and speak to that freedom. I have redefined these complements for my use. Suffering is complaint for what is missing. Nirvana is having it despite appearances.

I embrace that everything REALLY starts with thought, and NO THING is permanent. So I can use these truths to the advantage of my own experience when I admit who is responsible, that I AM responsible. This means no more wailing about the world. If I am wailing, it is because I was looking at some horror. But before I saw that horror, I HELD that as a probable. When I am looking, what I see is ONLY what I see. I grok that and still have such very sad habits of mind. BUT today is a new day.

I am a vast multi-dimensional being who has all capacities ever conceivable. I choose which state to enjoy. YES, when we enjoy contemplating suffering, and complaint and moaning and judgement and blame, THAT is what we choose. This will be my path in 2019, to honestly recognize what I have chosen before and choose AGAIN.

Yippeee!!!!

Emil El Zapato
1st January 2019, 18:22
Hi Maggie,

Giovoni gets credit for the book notice. It's a good one. Sort of a reinforcement of what is becoming increasingly obvious..

Dreamtimer
4th January 2019, 13:16
Jason Louv interviewed Mitch Horowitz:



Returning to the podcast for the second time, author Mitch Horowitz stops by to discuss his new book The Miracle Club: How Thoughts Shape Reality, an examination and critical update of the New Thought movement, the uniquely American school of thought that suggests that the mind itself can shape one’s life and reality to a profound, perhaps even absolute level.


In this “manual for miracles,” Horowitz explains how we each possess a creative agency to determine and reshape our lives. He shows how thinking in a directed, highly focused, and emotively charged manner expands our capacity to perceive and transform events and allows us to surpass ordinary boundaries of time and physical space. Building on Neville Goddard’s view that the human imagination is God the Creator and Ralph Waldo Emerson’s techniques for attaining personal power, he explores the highest uses of mind-power metaphysics and explains what works and what doesn’t, illuminating why and how events bend to our thoughts. He encourages readers to experiment and find themselves “at the helm of infinite possibilities.”

Podcast interview is here (https://ultraculture.org/blog/2018/11/12/miracle-club/).

Maggie
5th January 2019, 04:43
Jason Louv interviewed Mitch Horowitz:

Podcast interview is here (https://ultraculture.org/blog/2018/11/12/miracle-club/).

Thanks DT. I like Mitch Horowitz. I actually bought his book and think it is very helpful.

I am listening to this interview.

Timeline 4.2 Billion Years Hidden History & The Golden Keys of Escaping the Matrix
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I think it has value because IMO there is something to the great cycles and the general level of consciousness of the collective "mind". Maybe we are NOT in the Kali Yuga?

I honestly and sincerely think that we can use the ideas that are already available to focus our minds on raising our own consciousness no matter what others are doing. For instance, Neville was an enlightened being. He left his teachings for others to follow. But we have to do the heavy lifting which is paradoxically lightening our mind. Here is chapter one from


Awakened Imagination & The Search (http://www.awakenedimaginationandthesearch.org/tag/audio-enlightenment-neville-goddard)
NEVILLE GODDARD
1954
To Bill
"Imagination, the real and eternal world of which this Vegetable Universe is but a faint shadow. What is the life of Man but Art and Science?"

WILLIAM BLAKE, Jerusalem

"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

ALBERT EINSTEIN, On Science

Chapter One

WHO IS YOUR IMAGINATION?

I rest not from my great task
To open the Eternal Worlds,
to open the immortal Eyes
Of Man inwards into the Worlds of Thought: into Eternity
Ever expanding in the Bosom of God,
the Human Imagination.
Blake, Jerusalem 5:18-20

CERTAIN WORDS in the course of long use gather so many strange connotations that they almost cease to mean anything at all. Such a word is imagination. This word is made to serve all manner of ideas, some of them directly opposed to one another. Fancy, thought, hallucination, suspicion: indeed, so wide is its use and so varied its meanings, the word imagination has no status nor fixed significance.

For example, we ask a man to "use his imagination", meaning that his present outlook is too restricted and therefore not equal to the task. In the next breath, we tell him that his ideas are "pure imagination", thereby implying that his ideas are unsound. We speak of a jealous or suspicious person as a "victim of his own imagination", meaning that his thoughts are untrue. A minute later we pay a man the highest tribute by describing him as a "man of imagination".

Thus the word imagination has no definite meaning. Even the dictionary gives us no help. It defines imagination as (1) the picturing power or act of the mind, the constructive or creative principle; (2) a phantasm; (3) an irrational notion or belief; (4) planning, plotting or scheming as involving mental construction.

I identify the central figure of the Gospels with human imagination, the power which makes the forgiveness of sins, the achievement of our goals, inevitable.

All things were made by Him; and without Him was not anything made that was made. John 1:3

There is only one thing in the world, Imagination, and all our deformations of it.

He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief. Isaiah 53:3

Imagination is the very gateway of reality.

"Man", said Blake, "is either the ark of God or a phantom of the earth and of the water". "Naturally he is only a natural organ subject to Sense". "The Eternal Body of Man is The Imagination: that is God himself, The Divine Body. [yod, shin, ayin; from right to the left]: Jesus: we are His Members".

I know of no greater and truer definition of the Imagination than that of Blake. By imagination we have the power to be anything we desire to be.

Through imagination, we disarm and transform the violence of the world. Our most intimate as well as our most casual relationships become imaginative, as we awaken to "the mystery hid from the ages" [Colossians 1:26], that Christ in us is our imagination.

We then realize that only as we live by imagination can we truly be said to live at all.

I want this book to be the simplest, clearest, frankest work I have the power to make it, that I may encourage you to function imaginatively, that you may open your "Immortal Eyes inwards into the Worlds of Thought" [William Blake], where you behold every desire of your heart as ripe grain "white already to harvest" [John 4:35].

I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:10

The abundant life that Christ promised us is ours to experience now, but not until we have the sense of Christ as our imagination can we experience it.

The mystery hid from the ages... Christ in you, the hope of glory, Colossians 1:26,27, is your imagination.

This is the mystery which I am ever striving to realize more keenly myself and to urge upon others.

Imagination is our redeemer, "the Lord from Heaven" born of man but not begotten of man [The Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed or the Symbol of Faith, 325/381 A.D.].

Every man is Mary and birth to Christ must give.

If the story of the immaculate conception1 and birth of Christ appears irrational to man, it is only because it is misread as biography, history, and cosmology, and the modern explorers of the imagination do not help by calling It the unconscious or subconscious mind.

Imagination's birth and growth is the gradual transition from a God of tradition to a God of experience. If the birth of Christ in man seems slow, it is only because man is unwilling to let go the comfortable but false anchorage of tradition.

When imagination is discovered as the first principle of religion, the stone of literal understanding will have felt the rod of Moses and, like the rock of Zion [Isaiah 28:16; Romans 9:33], issue forth the water of psychological meaning to quench the thirst of humanity; and all who take the proffered cup and live a life according to this truth will transform the water of psychological meaning into the wine of forgiveness. Then, like the good Samaritan [Luke 10:33-35], they will pour it on the wounds of all.

The Son of God is not to be found in history, nor in any external form. He can only be found as the imagination of him in whom His presence becomes manifest.

O, would thy heart but be a manger for His birth! God would once more become a child on earth. [Angelus Silesius, a 17th century poet]

Man is the garden in which this only-begotten Son of God sleeps. He awakens this Son by lifting his imagination up to heaven and clothing men in godlike stature. We must go on imagining better than the best we know.

Man in the moment of his awakening to the imaginative life must meet the test of Sonship.

"Father, reveal Thy Son in me" [James Montgomery]

and "It pleased God to reveal His Son in me". Galatians 1:15,16

The supreme test of Sonship is the forgiveness of sin. The test that your imagination is Christ Jesus, the Son of God, is your ability to forgive sin. Sin means missing one's mark in life, falling short of one's ideal, failing to achieve one's aim. Forgiveness means identification of man with his ideal or aim in life. This is the work of awakened imagination, the supreme work, for it tests man's ability to enter into and partake of the nature of his opposite.

Let the weak man say, I am strong. Joel 3:10

Reasonably, this is impossible. Only awakened imagination can enter into and partake of the nature of its opposite.

This conception of Christ Jesus as human imagination raises these fundamental questions: Is imagination a power sufficient, not merely to enable me to assume that I am strong, but is it also of itself capable of executing the idea?

Suppose that I desire to be in some other place or situation. Could I, by imagining myself into such a state and place, bring about their physical realization? Suppose I could not afford the journey and suppose my present social and financial status oppose the idea that I want to realize. Would imagination be sufficient of itself to incarnate these desires? Does imagination comprehend reason? By reason, I mean deductions from the observations of the senses.

Does it recognize the external world of facts? In the practical way of everyday life is imagination a complete guide to behaviour?

Suppose I am capable of acting with continuous imagination, that is, suppose I am capable of sustaining the feeling of my wish fulfilled, will my assumption harden into fact?

And, if it does harden into fact, shall I on reflection find that my actions through the period of incubation have been reasonable? Is my imagination a power sufficient, not merely to assume the feeling of the wish fulfilled, but is it also of itself capable of incarnating the idea?

After assuming that I am already what I want to be, must I continually guide myself by reasonable ideas and actions in order to bring about the fulfillment of my assumption?

Experience has convinced me that an assumption, though false, if persisted in, will harden into fact, that continuous imagination is sufficient for all things, and all my reasonable plans and actions will never make up for my lack of continuous imagination.

Is it not true that the teachings of the Gospels can only be received in terms of faith and that the Son of God is constantly looking for signs of faith in people – that is, faith in their own imagination?

Is not the promise

Believe that ye receive and ye shall receive, Mark 11:24,

the same as "Imagine that you are and you shall be"? Was it not an imaginary state in which Moses "Endured, as seeing Him who is invisible" [Hebrews 11:27]?

Was it not by the power of his own imagination that he endured?

Truth depends upon the intensity of the imagination, not upon external facts. Facts are the fruit bearing witness of the use or misuse of the imagination.

Man becomes what he imagines. He has a self-determined history. Imagination is the way, the truth, the life revealed.

We cannot get hold of truth with the logical mind. Where the natural man of sense sees a bud, imagination sees a rose full-blown.

Truth cannot be encompassed by facts.

As we awaken to the imaginative life, we discover that to imagine a thing is to make it so, that a true judgment need not conform to the external reality to which it relates.

The imaginative man does not deny the reality of the sensuous outer world of Becoming, but he knows that it is the inner world of continuous Imagination that is the force by which the sensuous outer world of Becoming is brought to pass. He sees the outer world and all its happenings as projections of the inner world of Imagination.

To him, everything is a manifestation of the mental activity which goes on in man's imagination, without the sensuous reasonable man being aware of it.

But he realizes that every man must become conscious of this inner activity and see the relationship between the inner causal world of imagination and the sensuous outer world of effects.

It is a marvelous thing to find that you can imagine yourself into the state of your fulfilled desire and escape from the jails which ignorance built.

The Real Man is a Magnificent Imagination.

It is this self that must be awakened.

Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. Ephesians 5:14

The moment man discovers that his imagination is Christ, he accomplishes acts which on this level can only be called miraculous. But until man has the sense of Christ as his imagination,

"You did not choose me, I have chosen you”, John 15:16,

he will see everything in pure objectivity without any subjective relationship.

Not realizing that all that he encounters is part of himself, he rebels at the thought that he has chosen the conditions of his life, that they are related by affinity to his own mental activity.

Man must firmly come to believe that reality lies within him and not without.

Although others have bodies, a life of their own, their reality is rooted in you, ends in you, as yours ends in God.

Maggie
6th January 2019, 05:39
I really feel a powerful opportunity welling up.


2019 is going to be a Year of Beginnings.

2012-2019, was a 7 year cycle of clearing energetically.

2019-2026 is going to be a cycle of elevation, so a brand new beginning, bringing with it a lot of momentum and forward movement.

What will this look like on the ground?

With the intensity of the energetics that have been going on the past few years, many of you have been coming to the end of the road in lives that you have either been struggling to maintain, or trying to make work but found that things just aren't working or sticking.

For all of you, this is going to be a really good year to shift things forward. To create change powerfully and purposefully.

Take care this month everyone! ❤️������������

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I have not listened to this yet but I like what he said in the energy update

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Emil El Zapato
6th January 2019, 13:07
[QUOTE=Dreamtimer;842005669]Jason Louv interviewed Mitch Horowitz:




This is just a 'thing' for me, but one needs to be careful how 'human imagination is God the Creator' is interpreted. It possibly is true but one shouldn't confuse the 'self with God'. God the Creator is an integral part of our existence but it is not 'our' existence. It is the existence that is 'part' of our spiritual being that we have access to because it is an endowment of 'mind' not the physical self.

Aragorn
6th January 2019, 13:48
Jason Louv interviewed Mitch Horowitz:




This is just a 'thing' for me, but one needs to be careful how 'human imagination is God the Creator' is interpreted. It possibly is true but one shouldn't confuse the 'self with God'. God the Creator is an integral part of our existence but it is not 'our' existence. It is the existence that is 'part' of our spiritual being that we have access to because it is an endowment of 'mind' not the physical self.

The late Dr. John Mack used to put it really nicely in his presentations. He said that everything boils down to the sentence "I am God", and that it is a dangerous sentence, because all three words in it are commonly misunderstood. :p

Emil El Zapato
6th January 2019, 14:02
Interesting Aragorn

Dreamtimer
3rd March 2021, 20:03
Here's a new one with Joe from After Skool.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8YpYkqosa8

He brings together his many years of research into the brain and human biology to present the latest findings on what is humanly possible for creating massive transformation in our lives. In fact, you have a supernatural ability to create a new future, in your own image. We are not hardwired to be a certain way for the rest of our lives, nor are we doomed by our genes.