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Elen
19th July 2015, 14:05
More interesting documentaries from Russia. Most of it sits well with me, and it is indeed great information revealed for the first time in English.

Did survivors from an ancient global cataclysm spread their culture and technology across the planet? How old is "ancient"? Do you wonder about the similarity of peoples far-flung from one another, ancient texts, and modern artifacts showing up in odd places? Fascinated by stories of ancient wars... do you have memories of them? Get insights with new info, much never before available in English.

Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdbB6lbI5tc

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFjfzFpdsPA

Part 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_IOshMoWz0

To be continued...

Elen
19th July 2015, 14:52
Here is part 4
The sound is however a bit hard to hear in the beginning and at 15:38 turn your sound down considerably, it is very loud.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_zMLbf92GY

Part 5
Carbon dating, Dendrochronology, Martin Luther, Entire empire gone missing... .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0TQmkKyOdE

Part 6
How a small group of monks forged the ENTIRE history of the planet… .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbTTQ3d9mdk

Cearna
20th July 2015, 12:01
I will watch these when I have the time, but I have no idea till then why India is involved with Atlantis. When the leader realised there was going to be a problem with Atlantis - it wasn't the real Atlanteans who were the problem, they were all female and many males from elsewhere in the Tau Ceti region arrived to see what Atlantis was about, they set up nearby, but were not allowed into Atlantis itself. They were all males and became very jealous of the prowress of the women who were all very gifted in use of energies, healing, poetry, artistic endeavours of all kinds, music and fine arts. They worked only with spirit, but these males were cruel and wanted to take everything from them. The leader, a seer, told the gods her world was at risk, so her own rightful people of Atlantis left to go to 29 other places on Earth, where they established energy domes of protection, to last, until links were to be made again to all 300 of these female Atlanteans. This year because so many are in danger, they are wanting to leave once again, and it is the same race causing the same kind of negative behaviour now.

They went from the place they originally went to, because they wanted to put to use all that they had learnt over the whole period of the dinosaurs on Earth, and they went to what is the Amazon region for 300 years becoming known as the the warrior Tribe of Amazon women. They only fought if necessary, but were formidable fighters, all being able to use "The Force". What they were there to do was to study healing in every form, that it could be used on Earth from that time forward. They used each modality until they were so expert in it they could remember it in later lives as it became needed. They often became the shamans of indigenous tribes all over the world or in fact introduced the modalities as the time seemed right to use them.

About 1986, I was sent into one of the National Forests in New South Wales, near Sydney, to a high energy spot, and with three others who were with me in Atlantis, we proceeded to power up every one of those Atlanteans again, so they could once again be able to revive what they knew from that time for use in the now. It was a strange proceedure, because they were arranged in a pyramidal shape, starting with 18 people on the bottom row, 18 in the next row, going on smaller to the top where there was just the one Leader. I named each one individually, with their spirit names, and powered each one individually. What I found most interesting was the names, all people in each row used only certain letters of the English Alphabet, each person had them arranged differently, but their were also only a certain number of syllable to each name. Each row above added other letters to their names, which were not used in the previous row, and in these rows sometime one or two new syllables were added, these names were strange to me, but sounded a lot like Finnish in the kinds of letters being used. I have visited Finland, and these name were put together, a lot like the Finnish language. By the time I got to the leader at the top, her name was unbelievably long with so many more letters and syllables to her name. It seemed to me that they are still growing in their development, so as they grow, so they add more letters or syllables to their names and can changes places in the pyramid structure if they develop more than some one close to them.

I know some have now died, but I have met many of them, particularly in Australia, but throughout the world as I travelled I would recognise them and we always feel an immediate bond to one another, so they have all been here during my lifetime and are working in their own way, mostly with psychic abilities, energy use and healing modalities.

So how old is Ancient, the Peoples of Atlantis, Lemuria, Chaldea, and Hyperia Jure, were all here during the dinosaur, going into the early mammalian times, before that only Gods were here, experimenting with the different types of societies that might be used here, and the different types of structures that we might want to make throughout time from that time onwards. They used all the building materials that might become available throughout time and the styles that could be used to fashion materials into buildings. These all went into pleasant surroundings, and the whole concept was placed into the Hall of Records, for someone wishing to create something to find and use. Nothing was left to chance.

Elen
20th July 2015, 17:06
Hi Cearna,
Really valid questions, I hope that you'll find time to watch the documentaries as she is putting up a really good case as to what she means with the Atlanteans. I like her style of searching for answers too, and she has said many times that she doesn't know everything and that she would like some help from people who has "the abilities". She has supplied her e-mail address in some of the videos and welcomes your questions and your input. Thank you for your comment.

Elen

Elen
21st July 2015, 14:27
I've just watched this 2 hour long documentary and I am willing to overlook anything I do not agree with, because there is such a richness of information. I wept a bit here and there, goosebumps all over. Enjoy!
Elen

Ancient World History - Ancient Civilizations - The Unknown History Of Americas - Part 23. This is a documentary depicting the Ancient Civilizations of the North and South Americas much before the Incas/Aztecs and much before the European colonization. Most of the Ancient History of the Americas have been destroyed either by natural calamities or by colonial rulers. Lot of the facts have been misrepresented by the new people who wiped out the Ancient Tribes and their old religions and cultures. This documentary gives insights into the old history. The Ancient Tribes were very advanced and had lot of knowledge on various subjects like the Egyptian, Chinese, Indian, Sumerian Cultures. There are many similarities between these cultures which are found in the Americas!! You will see artifacts depicting Ancient People wearing costumes similar to spacesuits. Amazing!! There are Pyramid structures and buildings very similar to Old Civilizations and in old Europe much before the people from Europe went there!! The Ancient People were very connected to Nature and possessed Higher State Of Consciousness which was similar to the other Ancient Civilizations of Earth!! Fascinating documentary!!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4ElfHfgX94

Elen
30th August 2015, 23:26
I'm posting this link to explain why you have to watch this before you can understand the video I'm posting about the Great Wall of China elsewhere. Who where the Tartarians. We never hear about them anymore. A whole big part of the world just forgotten as if it never existed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW4Fr6vDuA

Best
Elen

modwiz
31st August 2015, 16:22
I want to thank you, Elen, for bringing this series to our attention. I am currently in the process of downloading the entire collection. The cover-up of our true history is more dark than previously entertained by us. We can only rectify this by educating ourselves and not waiting for any official process. It will not be coming. We need not be embarrassed by our ignorance if we take remedial action. If we do not, it is upon our own heads and no claim of victimization by the evil cabal will stand. The information is available. Is the will to self educate there?

Elen
1st September 2015, 14:55
I want to thank you, Elen, for bringing this series to our attention. I am currently in the process of downloading the entire collection. The cover-up of our true history is more dark than previously entertained by us. We can only rectify this by educating ourselves and not waiting for any official process. It will not be coming. We need not be embarrassed by our ignorance if we take remedial action. If we do not, it is upon our own heads and no claim of victimization by the evil cabal will stand. The information is available. Is the will to self educate there?

Thank you kindly :tiphat: Keep them safe. Such a clever coverup means no need for embarrassment, I think.

Elen
1st September 2015, 19:24
Who would have thought that the Samurais where actually looking like the Europeans? We have seen the movie 47 Ronins, and it is showing that ONE and only one is of European looking looks. Why not the other way round. One was looking Japanese and the rest European. Well, well. Take a look at it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0jd_EJ2OIM

Best
Elen

Dreamtimer
2nd September 2015, 15:30
This woman has done some amazing work. Many hours of research and gathering of information.

She makes an interesting point about how the Hopi's were changed (for the worse) in just one generation. She then says that when we are able to live according to our true nature and abilities we will change for the better.

I recalled some work done in Russia where wild foxes changed into something like domestic dogs in just a couple generations once they were taken from the wild.

As fascinating as I find this it makes me so mad. The denial of our actual history is some kind of cosmic sin. Blessings to this woman for bringing some light.

Elen
2nd September 2015, 20:39
this also has to be added, I think. Healing in the most strange ways. Please always know that I never condone any drugs of any kind. Always natural remedies.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M75GxfA86BI

Kind regards
Elen

lcam88
2nd September 2015, 21:15
I get depressed listening to this stuff, but thank you Elen, for sharing.

It is quite interesting to know that another individual is at least as pessimistic about the history of humanity as I am, but I've never bothered to research just how well founded that pessimism is. Ignorance is bliss, in a way.

I have my optimisms for humanity in other areas as well but as yet, quite little evidence to support that optimism... :/

Elen
2nd September 2015, 21:33
Oh dear, that is not what I intended. Did you listen to the whole thing though? Being depressed is not a good thing. Just skip what ever depresses you, please. There is so many things to be optimistic about. Like we are going to find our way home from inside out. It will always come from inside.
Best
Elen

lcam88
3rd September 2015, 15:23
I do listen to the whole thing. Being depressed about hearing some of this is not something controllable, rather spontaneous. And not depressing as in I'm having chemical imbalances in the brain, but the feeling of that mood setting in where you know you will be less patient than normal.

Indeed inside.

Thanks for sharing,

Elen
3rd September 2015, 18:23
Here is more info on the subject, for me something very new is at the 1:20.55 or there abouts. A tall woman preseved to perfection in a metal coffin. And everybody in the village saw it, including the fire-squad, police and the rest. Newspaper articles etc. But it is all taken away....


Atlantis / Hyperborean artefacts
Mysteries of the Kola Peninsula, meryachene
Barchenko and the shamans of the Kola Peninsula
gigantic megalithic walls and spheres of Ural and Siberia
seida stones
ancient Chinese cities in the desert
ancient civilisations buries under sand and clay
the Chara Sands
The Caspian Sea, how did it turn into a desert region
Arkaim and other round cities
tibetan medicine and herbal surgery with magic
aryan dna r1a haplogroup, a proof of the authenticity of the book of Veles
the Tisul Princess
possible Ancient human design laboratory at Tsarichina, Bulgaria

Best
Elen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_oS9pYQsWM&index=25&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu

Elen
3rd September 2015, 20:37
Hello, here is another video for more info.

WHEN THE ATLANTIS AND HYPERBOREA SURVIVORS WAKE UP, drafts of part 25 of the work on the next documentary

The "Roman" Aqueducts and the Japanese Megaliths as full-fledged "Mystery" "Alien" Megaliths, Qanat-Firaun

For contacts regarding the content of this documentary please write to survivors@public-files.de
If you wish to suggest additional content relevant to the topic and it happens to be as big as a book or hour long documentary please extract the relevant quotes before sending to contribute to the research yourself because daily people send me a homework of few books to read and i can't complete the homework!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E___WNWIca4&index=23&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu

I hope this goes well

Elen

Elen
3rd September 2015, 20:55
Seeing that I have this empty post, I thought that I should make something out of it.

Like this: I am posting all the videos about this to all of the visitors of the forum. They may not be members, and I have been made aware that not all people are able to search the web for these kind of things. Some i-pads do not lend themselves to this. So I will continue with the posting of these links.

Best
Elen

lcam88
3rd September 2015, 22:46
The historian seems quite "on-edge" in episode 30.

I never understood the significance of 1776 until now.

Elen
4th September 2015, 14:19
Part 32, The Cathar Castles of France, who is the real heretic, the Albigensian Crusade.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebhxHMNlrvs&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu&index=30

Elen

Elen
4th September 2015, 17:10
Part 7 - 1000 fabricated years, Isaac Newton and other supporters of the true history.

Interesting glitch in how time is measured


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kT924EpkHc&index=5&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu

Elen

Elen
4th September 2015, 17:22
Part 10, Sahara, is it 100% natural? Berbers. Egyptian Blonde Mummies 213 cm. Desert Dams


Interesting thought here. The pyramids used as building material for houses. This I've seen for myself visiting Hadrian's wall between Scotland and England. The wall is broken in many, many parts and houses happen to have matching stones in them, both sides of the border.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nzt-leWyGwU&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu&index=8

Elen

Elen
4th September 2015, 17:56
Part 11 - the last keepers of the Egyptian secrets, the Mamluks and the Coptic Christians

This video is a follow-up on the previous post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djVxKvVHOVY&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu&index=9

Elen

lcam88
4th September 2015, 19:31
Off topic.

Elen
5th September 2015, 17:46
This part is to make it more readable from the wish of icam88

Elen

Elen
6th September 2015, 11:37
part 26 Baalbek, a whole new perspective of the megalithic mysteries of ancient Baalbek

We've been told that the Romans built so generously all over the place. Does it make sense? Soldiers, architects, engineers and skilled stone masons, together conquering territories while they spend all their efforts building great structures?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtlBZx6mL5g&index=24&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu

Elen

Elen
6th September 2015, 17:49
The differences between Christianity and Islam is artificially induced. How about this; The two branches of the same religion is being pushed against each other to make us fearful of our brothers and sisters. It is well known, even in our own bible that the two religions have the same roots.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3d2fn_3hWI&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu&index=6

Best
Elen

PS. Please do not watch the news.

Elen
7th September 2015, 09:06
We know that the Swastika is an ancient symbol, and that it has been abused by the Nazis. What I didn't know was how PREVALENT it has been in our past, not that long ago, everywhere all over the planet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RcEX6Vr56w&index=25&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu

Elen

Elen
7th September 2015, 12:42
Pivotal episode! The truth about the empire of ”Rome”, the ancient “greek” “civilisation” and slavery




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZXcVVbO0RE&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu&index=26

Elen

Elen
13th September 2015, 16:36
Another continuation of the SAGA...

Africa is also full of signs from the ancient ones, called "The Survivors". According to main-stream history, everything has been "discovered", by someone as if it never existed before. Artifacts hidden, or in plain sight, speak for themselves. Enjoy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq8Q53JNG8k

Elen

Elen
13th September 2015, 17:02
Australia and New Zealand have unknown history to be revealed. Artifacts are Artifacts and not to be forgotten. Take a look, this is a short one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44007EW_f8A

Elen

Elen
14th September 2015, 15:41
Angkor Wat is the most famous buildings of the Khmer Empire, today Cambodia. I've heard many tales about it, including that it was discovered in the 19th Century by a Frenchman called Henri Mouhot, and that the locals had no knowledge of it. Are we to believe all that? On the walls are many visible proofs that visitors from around the world had been there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POwuR-lWdZ8

Elen

Elen
14th September 2015, 17:06
The Grottoes of Huashan and the Grottoes of Longyou are never mentioned as anything but mysterious and magical. These caves are showing toolmarks that doesn't make sense, of course, hense the magical side of it. Modern quarries are no different to the acient quarries in looks, so what do you make of this? And of course a lot of other things of interest in China. Enjoy!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oi8aTW9_HE

Elen

Elen
15th September 2015, 12:18
Ghengis Khan, fact or fiction?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz4vdphlMD8&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu&index=29


You be the judge
Elen

Elen
15th September 2015, 14:26
Another race that disappeared from the face of the Earth for the convenience of the made up history-books. Make up your own mind, here it is...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8mXSQ_R0T0&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu&index=27

Elen

Divine Feminine
15th September 2015, 21:07
Angkor Wat is the most famous buildings of the Khmer Empire, today Cambodia. I've heard many tales about it, including that it was discovered in the 19th Century by a Frenchman called Henri Mouhot, and that the locals had no knowledge of it. Are we to believe all that? On the walls are many visible proofs that visitors from around the world had been there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POwuR-lWdZ8


Elen

Elen, this is an intriguing thread! I have not had time to go through all the videos but wanted to respond to this one and share what little I know. In time maybe I can offer more insight as my consciousness expands. I was told in an Akashic Record reading that I was born in Angkor Wat during the Golden Age. I played the role of a queen and was responsible for building the community of what I believe is known as Angkor Thom depicted in parts of the video you posted above. I was not given an official name in the reading but will confirm the identity in the next couple of months. Thanks to the help of another forum member here who steered me into the right direction as to what time period I should look, lead me to believe I was part of The Royal Trinity who is responsible for the construction of Angkor Thom. After looking at a few statues, I'm guessing my identity to be that of Queen Jayarajadevi. I have many connections to #3 in more than one life time so it's one of many reasons The Royal Trinity caught my attention.

I have one memory that stands out, which could be from these ancient times and came to me in my early 20's. This may sound silly, but I was walking around shopping in a Pier One store when a piece of art work caught my eye. It was similar to this:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d8/7b/a9/d87ba9dcf78101c8128cc131f735a85a.jpg

Something about all the detail.....I couldn't stop staring at it. These are pieces of art carved out of cork and the attention to detail is outstanding. I know this memory was significant because that was well over 20 years ago and yet I still remember it today. I didn't realize I was having a past life memory at the time and I believe that memory was tied to my incarnation in Cambodia. It makes sense because I know I'm a detailed person and if you look back to the Angkor Thom time period the construction was very, very detailed. This 'attention to detail' is a trait I believe that has stayed with me from incarnation to incarnation. One example is how I've laid out The Great Experiment thread. I believe forum member Idigress was able to pick up on this, which reflects in her observations mentioned in one of her current posts on this thread.

Queen Jayarajadevi was one of the members of The Royal Trinity, who ruled during the 12th century helping to shape the Khmer Empire. One of the other members was King Jayavarman VII who possibly is the reincarnation of my friend...James. I still need to get him Akashic Record confirmed, but when you look at the statues compared to his picture, the resemblance is startling. We both have a love for architecture and I would joke with him that if we ever reincarnated together again, our house is going to look like a museum, lmao. I said this before I had identified the Cambodia connection, but now, when I look at the structures, it's clear to me where this remembrance and affinity for detailed designs may stem from. We have other incarnations that tie us to well defined architecture, but that's for another thread. Here's one article I came upon regarding our work during the Golden Age:

Ancient Queens Who Shaped An Empire/ Intradevi and Jayarajadevi
http://www.devata.org/ancient-queens-who-shaped-an-asian-empire-indradevi-and-jayarajadevi/#.VfhYUZdl_mw

I'm convinced from studying my own reincarnation cases and that of others...you are playing specific roles for a reason and you are tied to certain incarnations because of who you were and the soul group involved. I really encourage people to explore their past life identities, because you are sitting on answers to history that have yet to be revealed or have been lost. There are millions of well documented people and you could be one of them. You are 'doing' and 'saying' things that are tied to who you were....
"The past is your future. Everything you are today is who you were and who you will be in the future." - Elizabeth Marie, 2010?

I am very interested in exploring this particular incarnation(The Royal Trinity)because just on the little I have read, I get the feeling we might have answers to what 'was' and of course the ability to see 'what can be' when a society is allowed to grow unimpeded by outside forces of ill intention. Most likely the very reason why much effort went into tearing it down in order to stop the advancement of the human race. At some point I will probably do a separate reading on this incarnation only and I will most definitely be asking about the construction techniques. I will also be asking which 'god's' (E.T's) had influence upon our advancement and were we in contact during this time period or was the knowledge just passed down. If only I could remember.....all my memories are mainly emotions/feelings and a few pictures here and there........BUT.......'Francis' on the other hand has an amazing, amazing memory. He has had dreams of many of his past incarnations....and OmG the details this guy can remember! Maybe if he can focus his intentions to this time period he will be able to 'dream' specific events that leave clues to how these structures were achieved.

One last thing...from my past life astrological chart:

Your Sun is Sextile Uranus
"Your most prominent past life was probably an Atlantean one, where you may well have been quite influential in unifying teachings for the moral, intellectual, and material uplift of others."

When I read this...it sounds much like what I did as Queen Jayarajadevi if that truly is me. So if I come from the Atlantean time period am I'm repeating a similar knowledge base as demonstrated in the composition of Ankgor Thom, which is exactly the point I was saying back in 2010 in my above quote, and was said before I knew any of my past life identities....the thought/quote came from a 'feeling' that was overcoming me and had been expressed to a friend in a letter. Then if you look at my spiritual experience of Kundalini, and the thought process behind it(see post #57 The Great Experiment thread), you can see how it might possibly correlate into these two incarnations and one's I have yet to mention. All life times being an integral part of 'the game'.

The purpose for sharing is, I believe it ties into your thread and I'm hopeful in time others will begin to remember who they are and be willing to divulge what they know to further enrich the conversation. We are all sitting on clues and I'm captivated to know more as each personal story is a piece of the puzzle to something of grandeur proportions. Look at the patterns I'm showing you, can you see them?...now take that knowledge and apply to others around you. Don't just look at us, look at others within your spheres of influence and the roles they play, and then, only then, can you start to see where you might find them popping up in history renewing and refining legacies from years of long ago.......this is what I see happening and it's akin to looking into a crystal ball of the future, our future.

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/Idahophotos/Francis%20cropped.jpg (http://s489.photobucket.com/user/Idahophotos/media/Francis%20cropped.jpg.html) http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/Idahophotos/JayavarmanVII%20side%20shot%20cropped.jpg (http://s489.photobucket.com/user/Idahophotos/media/JayavarmanVII%20side%20shot%20cropped.jpg.html) http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/Idahophotos/Francis%20cropped%202.jpg (http://s489.photobucket.com/user/Idahophotos/media/Francis%20cropped%202.jpg.html) http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/Idahophotos/JayavarmanVII%20cropped.jpg (http://s489.photobucket.com/user/Idahophotos/media/JayavarmanVII%20cropped.jpg.html)
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/Idahophotos/HEAD%20CROP%20sepia_2.jpg (http://s489.photobucket.com/user/Idahophotos/media/HEAD%20CROP%20sepia_2.jpg.html) http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/Idahophotos/Queen%20Jayarajadevi-bayon%20recropped.jpg (http://s489.photobucket.com/user/Idahophotos/media/Queen%20Jayarajadevi-bayon%20recropped.jpg.html) http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr251/Idahophotos/53%20cropped%20sepia_1.jpg (http://s489.photobucket.com/user/Idahophotos/media/53%20cropped%20sepia_1.jpg.html)

James, the reincarnation of King Jayavarman VII and Elizabeth the reincarnation of Queen Jayarajedevi........we are looking for Queen Indradevi to complete The Royal Trinity.



EDIT TO ADD: On Oct 29, 2015, Akashic Record reader, Kevin Ryerson(www.kevinryerson.com), confirmed the identities of James and Elizabeth to be the reincarnation of King Jayavarman VII and Queen Jayarajedevi creators of Angkor Thom. Elizabeth has properly identified Queen Indradevi and she was confirmed on the same date so the Royal Trinity is complete. We cannot make her identity public without her permission as she is not yet aware of her past life confirmation, but hopefully in this lifetime, when the time is right she will be willing to come forward.

bsbray
16th September 2015, 07:08
I'm loving these videos from the New Earth channel. So many dots are connecting, and a lot of this simply from translating things being considered in Russian, into English.

It's amazing to think how much information we are missing out on just from a neglect of translating work from one language to another, especially when it comes to ancient history scattered all over the globe.

Cearna
16th September 2015, 09:49
.
=modwiz;841935987]I want to thank you, Elen, for bringing this series to our attention. The cover-up of our true history is more dark than previously entertained by us. We can only rectify this by educating ourselves and not waiting for any official process. We need not be embarrassed by our ignorance if we take remedial action.

History took life from ourselves, for, we find only cost to not know who we were, and what the belief system was that we followed. Indicative of this, I began to write the thread about "Knowing". One answer was we know everything ourselves, and my answer was do you know what you need to know?

Whilst in the Right to know, you are able to live without knowing what is behind you, what did you clearly live in. Was it squallor? Enlightenment is the mind delineating what the experiences told you. Do you know someone who connects to Akashic Records, there is some doubt in my mind that they have the right to go into something this important, as this is the world in its own Right to know, and these records sometimes block the first things, about you out, as no one is allowed to know your true name. There is good reason for this, because all your soul Life is purely yours and not to be revealed to any one ever.

So the first thing is - is it important to stop linking to your Soul Life? Dealing in the open as a being whose Self Hood is so close to getting to live in rigidity, in this time, you are some one who costs your own mind, too much in trying to find out what you need to know, if you are working in riddles. Your Soul has every working life you have had from the first one onwards. The filling in is written somewhere on your own body. You could go to a hypnotist to get them to take you into your past lives, but they are not necessarily going to ask the types of questions that are ESSENTIAL to your evolution. You are now the finger of your headlong rush, to solve what is important and what is not, before either TPTB try to kill us, so they can have all our land, OR Mother Earth becomes so close to clearing every one off Earth's Belt of Gold (the ley lines), for she is on her way to clear off uninvited Guests such as Djinn, Demons of many sorts and ET's whom she has already told to GET OFF MY SOIL. Willing she is to care for us all, but not to let us live in no life at all, for these who believe they have the right to tell us how to live, us busily trying to clear us off Earth.

This means, find your gift to give us all - it is your sense of guilt free life in our own sense of who we are, and sacred it is. There is a great need to heal us all, and knowing what this is about is what I am asking about on my knowing thread. I'm trying to eliminate the story I keep seeing on TOT of "I don't know" Hopefully I will get a chance to explain how you can find out you own past lives, but the more important thing is to find out the questions to ask .

Elen
16th September 2015, 10:39
Thank you bsbray and Divine Feminine, I really, really appreciate your comments. You help me feel confident about my own intuitive process.

Yes, bsbray...it's so important to look at things from every angle and to reserve conclusions until you feel satisfied. Honestly, we've been infested with parasitic indoctrination, which they call education. And it takes a lot of courage to only listen to your own heart for truth.

Divine Feminine, I am happy that you found a reflection of your past life in the documentary. I am humbled. I will have look at the suggested site soon.

Best
Elen

Divine Feminine
16th September 2015, 21:17
Hi Cearna,
I think you're asking me a question, but I'm having a hard time deciphering your statements. The Akashic Record reader I use has my permission to access my records otherwise he wouldn't do it. I've been fortunate to have been able to research some of my past lives as I've been a well-documented person. So when given specific info I don't just accept it, I try and go back, research and validate what I've been told. Of course this is not always possible, but when the opportunity presents itself this is what I do. There are things you know about yourself that others will not. I've found if someone is doing a good job at reading your records, they will tell you things that resonate. I have no interest in claiming to be someone I'm not so if it didn't 'feel' right I probably wouldn't go back.

The purpose of sharing my story was to validate Elen's first post below.
When The Atlantis Survivors Wake Up
"Did survivors from an ancient global cataclysm spread their culture and technology across the planet? How old is "ancient"? Do you wonder about the similarity of peoples far-flung from one another, ancient texts, and modern artifacts showing up in odd places? Fascinated by stories of ancient wars... do you have memories of them? Get insights with new info, much never before available in English."

Which is why I posted what it said in my astrological chart about possibly having a significant past life during Atlantean times and why I shared the possible Cambodian incarnation. Angkor Thom was an extremely advanced civilization of it's time, even compared to today when you go back and read. So if that is me...could it be some of the knowledge I brought to the table to help construct this society have come from my Atlantean times? Hence....'When The Atlantis Survivors Wake Up? It's difficult to explain correlations until one begins to experience them on their own. I don't fear sharing my story and I don't fear being wrong. We can learn a lot from one another by sharing our personal accounts so I'm not of the belief we need to hide away our identities if that's what you're suggesting? I go where my heart leads me as that is the true essence of me and something you can observe when looking into my past lives.

One more thing about the Akashic Record reader I like to call on...I've noticed in the readings I've had with him, he shares things with me that he can see are significant or parallel to this lifetime. But what's been so beautiful about the exchange is he doesn't give me too much information as I'm noticing I'm being allowed to 'discover', 'comprehend' and use my own 'intuition' to enhance the information I've been given. I truly appreciate this understated gesture on his part in which no words were spoken, but when looking back and reflecting on the readings, even then, I was able to observe the kind gesture with my own intelligence, my own accord, making the whole experience gratifying on several different levels. For this I am eternally grateful.

I hope I answered your questions...I'm trying to be as brief as possible as I don't want to take away from the topic of this thread.

EDIT TO ADD:
I posted comparison pictures to who we were on my original post above if anyone is interested. When observing reincarnation cases I look at bone structure of the face. It is more difficult when dealing with statues..but if you look at my friend Francis you can really see the similarities which is why I think this is us. If the Akashic Records says otherwise...well then I guess I have to eat my hat and pull the pictures.....and I'm ok with this.

Elen
19th September 2015, 08:09
The Double Headed Eagle predates everything and we do not know its original meaning and root. Widely used all over the planet showing we all have the same roots. It would be very interesting to hear what people on the forum have to say about the DHE, shouldn’t we all start using for ourselves?

There will be another 10 episodes, but not finished until November-Desember. I can only imagine the time it takes researching all this stuff. My heartfelt “thank you” goes to NewEarth for all her work on our behalf.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZezkcUKG7s&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu&index=31

Until then,
Elen

Elen
24th September 2015, 18:12
I apologise to you, who cannot search this up. I missed one part, I was saving it until a proper moment, forgot about it, and I guess the moment is now.

The history of India is very interesting. Certain things speaks for themselves (I like that) and so no need for explanation. Sometimes a narrator can get in the way, but not this one, IMO. She has said on a number of occations that India has kept faithful to the old traditions and couldn't be led astray as easily as elsewhere.

Make up your own mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T7mfuI0HgI

Enjoy,
Elen

Elen
4th October 2015, 16:06
:Bump:
Here's the next documentary, showing things from Siberia that I have never seen or heard of before. She tells us what we can do with our textbooks too. This is the same style and sense of humour.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgRAni-dFOk


Elen

Elen
4th October 2015, 19:54
Tour the Earth. These are silent videos without a narrator. Stonehenge has nothing on this. Powerpoints? Vulcanos or atomic cooling stations. Geometric shapes, atomic cooling systems have 2 ponds for that. Anyway, without making up your minds, just yet, we need to see this with our own eyes, the traces from our own past, distant or not.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExzeKeJQ_lI

Elen

enjoy being
5th October 2015, 11:08
Wow woah Elen, talk about blow me away with that video, and let me explain why!
I saw the image of the two domes in the title screen of the video and thought, wow those look interesting. I clicked play and at 14 mins 40 seconds, what have we here, my place of birth, and oh look, the two dome hills from the cover image of the video! If you remember the post I made in the giza thread regards the ancient site I am linked to via the experiences which I recounted.. this is the same place.. I have never noticed those dome hills before! Also from recent discussions in the seeing through the veil thread, I also notice that the outline of our mountain is similar to the mandlebrot fractal, which I have never noticed before either. The site of the place I spoke of in the giza thread is slightly left of the tip of the "pointy hat" (if we use the terminology from the veil thread).. or the point of the fractal on the opposite end of the mountain area that the two dome hills are.
I am not sure how to get a google earth link by using the tablet I am currently using so have placed a photo of the site the two peninsulas along the river, one covered in bush one with grass, the bush is the site which has the cave and terracing and stone box for a pole, and the grass area you can make out the stone circle, also note the arcing cliff face on the opposite side of the river surrounding the stone circle site. Also, back to the dome hills, note the small lake following the contour of the larger dome... noting its name, Lake Dive. Subterranean entrance? Might have to go have a look sometime!

http://jandeane81.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1388

The two dome hills I have looked up on a topographical map and they are called, The Beehives. The mountain has lots of different names for different outcrops that various people have named. Here's a link to view it on map satellite if interested.

https://www.google.com/maps/@-39.2522986,174.0680691,31933m/data=!3m1!1e3

There is another hill similar to the beehives, called The Dome, it has a stream and a fantastic waterfall dropping between it and another hill, but from on the ground it looks like the two mounds are one with a split through it.
The 3 mountain ranges are of differing ages, with the smallest being the oldest and eroded to being just a range with no peak, as with the middle range. Native legend talks of one of the very early ancestors going to the place of the dome when the mountain, Mt Taranaki was created and digging a cave in which he stayed for a while. The Dome, and the story can be viewed at the following page, the photo of which is taken from the middle ranges, looking down onto what is a huge sphagnum moss swamp. It is very deep in some places and a wooden bridge pathway is used to cross it.. no leaving the track...

http://taranakiiwi.org.nz/taranaki-iwi-history/

Elen
5th October 2015, 13:26
Amazing, Nothing. It's at 13:40, though. No wonder you got blown away seeing your place of birth in the video.

Elen
5th October 2015, 14:26
A continuation of the old ruins



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9HRVUrmkgs


Elen

Elen
5th October 2015, 15:23
This is the last one in the Ruins of Old Earth. I had no idea how many ruins we have all over the place. Megalithic structures as well. Huge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alLm9YVneBg

The only negative I can think of is that it moved too quickly from place to place to see which country we were in, but it is workable though.

sandy
5th October 2015, 21:38
Thanks Elen and I agree about moving way to fast.............as well as way to much pointing at what from afar look like something but Ruins??

The concept is great to the statement of numerous Ruins around the world and many we are unaware of, so for that the hours spent zipping around the world have made an important and poignant point> thks :)

enjoy being
6th October 2015, 01:10
Hi Sandy, I must admit I haven't watched them all yet. I have seen a few smaller compilations before.

Thanks Elen, yes oops I entered the wrong number!

I think there is a mix of origins to these land forms and ruins. Some of them are ruins, so yes, made as buildings out of building materials originally.
Others I feel are expressions of land. As the hexagon is made by bees, an insect, so considered more conscious than a flower or a rock, yet both of these exhibit at least a loose adherence to geometric laws. But then there is the microscopic. Pollen are polygons. :-) Electron microscope craziness. Tessellations and tiling everywhere.
Fruit. Pearls.
These videos, by the looks of what I have seen, prove that Sophia is alive. That Earth has a skin which has memory and it is a huge energetic force with her elements and magnets and magma.
Boiling mud makes a splash from bubbling below, a drop of water makes a splash too. The crowns and rings similar. But not the same. But still perfect in that same old persistent way.
Some of these places are energy vortexes created directly by the consciousness of the planet. Wrinkles and beauty spots that sit on points where her arteries and nerves are. (if you follow my intent in imageries)
Some of these places are tattoos, put there by inhabitants. Some are notes saying I love you. Some are footprints of cities. Imagine the lines of Washington DC in an equivalent scenario.
Some are scars that have healed. Some are directly made by the planetary being and are ulcers bought on by a choice of things. Maybe mostly by parasites. Which is an interesting trigger word. A parasite is usually some being which does not collaborate 'fairly' with it surroundings. It is also a stowaway, or a leech. Luckily the Earth is pretty compromising and forgiving, maybe even loving. The conscious of this planet has had to learn to create. Well it hasn't really. But it has had to evolve and build its ability to perform more and more creative feats. Stocking her palette or materials to create with. The consciousness for 'many, many years' exceeded the physical ability to do.


The creation story. Rangi and Papa Mother Earth and Father Sky.

http://teaohou.natlib.govt.nz/journals/teaohou/issue/Mao45TeA/c11.html


Rangi is the sky, the father of all things; Papa is the earth, the mother of all things. In the beginning there was darkness, and these two, the earth and the sky, lay together. They had many children, who lay between them. It was dark for many ages; there was as yet no world with its bright light.

Then their children began to wonder what kind of thing the light could be. They wearied of the narrow space to which they were confined, and wished to separate their parents, so that there could be light. Then they came together to decide whether it would be better to kill their parents or to tear them apart. The fiercest of the children of Rangi and Papa is Tu, the god of war. It was Tu who spoke first, and he said, ‘Let us kill our parents!’
Then Tane, the god and father of forests and of all things that live in them, or that are made from trees, said, ‘No, we will not kill them. It is better to drag them apart, and let the sky be far above us, and the earth lie beneath our feet. In this way the sky will become a stranger to us, but the earth will stay close to us as a mother.’

All the brothers agreed to this except for Tawhiri, the father of winds and storms; and he, being afraid that his kingdom was about to be overthrown, was angry at the thought of the separation of his parents. (cont.)

enjoy being
7th October 2015, 18:25
Another thing I thought to add. I saw reference in one of the videos in this thread (I think) of the concept and word "Mana" from South American artifacts and spirituality.
This exact same word and meaning is used in the Maori culture of New Zealand.



Hmm, not sure which video it was in now! I image searched one of the images I saved from this information and it related back to Klaus Dona. This was the image.
https://cs7062.vk.me/c540105/v540105136/1bd85/dojYi5GHpdA.jpg

Aianawa
8th October 2015, 09:29
Hi Nothing, sometimes mana can be looked at the same way the word awhi is, no real English word to describe it properly.

Ps Thankyou Ellen, love the data.

enjoy being
8th October 2015, 09:59
Gidday Aianawa, yes I agree.The definition of being an indescribable force. Awhi means to hug or cuddle, the concept of Mana around the pacific would also include, love, and 'the higher good'. Embracing the flow of life. You can sense the meaning more than put words to it. Sometimes in New Zealand as you will know, it is said people with charisma or spiritual presence, have great mana. This is but only a very small part of the concept huh. And seems to be concentrated on as a definition among certain people who feel the need for this to be the meaning. And if anything it is misleading and egocentric.
My intention in saying the definition was exact to the South American definition, is that it too calls it a sometimes supernatural force which can't readily be described.. or something to that affect. Thanks for highlighting the need to clarify this. But yes as you say, hard to describe in words, especially just one word. I would imagine prana to be another word used to relate to the same thing in some ways.

Oh and I guess the idea of hug/cuddle extends to protect/ encapsulate/womb/nurturing field/aura.

Elen
15th October 2015, 07:17
This is 1/3. She could not upload the entire documentary and so more to follow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp3OYfzhkKc

Elen

Elen
16th October 2015, 10:56
This is predominantly from St Petersburg, Russia and it's distorted history.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpRP4xNIWbs

There are links where you can check for proof of her suggestions here:

http://atlantida-pravda-i-vimisel.blogspot.co.at/2013/11/1.html

Google will translate into English, if you're interested.

Elen

Elen
16th October 2015, 11:02
This is the third of these 3 parts about Saint Petersburg's mysteries

I hope you enjoy it too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3yHMhYo3E4

Elen

Elen
17th October 2015, 10:10
Hi all. I’m making a little synopsis on the documentary of St Petersburg.

From what I gather, St Petersburg was the Capital City of the Empire, which predates any other big city in the world. It has megalithic structures all over which can be seen from the pictures and this is not Peru, but it has the same building techniques.

I took a look at the maps, they are not easy to follow if you do not know what to look for, but I see now that the Survivors always made very straight lines as a rule and from that, you can check the dates on the maps to make a timeframe. If the streets are straight, they come from the Survivors.

The huge megalithic column in St Peter’s Square is impressive in it’s size and the historical explanation of how it was built is so ridiculous that it is stupefying, really. There is, however, a drawing/sketch made by an unknown contemporary artist, which shows what it looked like, to him/her, in the construction of it.

The Winter Palace is facing the old North direction, not the new North. You’ll see a lot of the interior here and wow!

Somebody who turned out to be a Freemason replaced King Peter in a Cue de Tat. He was much older than the real king and also decorated the whole Capital with Freemason symbols.

When you see the statues, which are all over the City, they are always clothed very light and in sandals. Doesn’t that show you that the climate was indeed different when they were made? In some cases they replaced the head with Peter’s, but gave up on ALL of the other statues. Shows you, the parasites are thorough in some places, but sloppy in others. The statues look very Roman to me, or what we today call Roman.

St Petersburg has also been in at least one flood, and there are definite signs. In many places the ground floor is underground which can be seen easily from inside the buildings, when the windows look straight into earth or mud.

Let’s admit it, we do not really know our true history completely yet. Hope you find it interesting as well.

Elen

Frances
17th October 2015, 19:02
I find it very interesting Elen, I also enjoy reading a summery of the videos.
I am being more accustomed to her accent, but I do at times miss vital information if I am not concentrating.

Love the videos and the information that is being presented.
Frances.

Elen
17th October 2015, 19:19
I find it very interesting Elen, I also enjoy reading a summery of the videos.
I am being more accustomed to her accent, but I do at times miss vital information if I am not concentrating.

Love the videos and the information that is being presented.
Frances.

Thank you Frances, I love your take on things. Just take it for what it is for now.'
Elen

Novusod
18th October 2015, 07:15
Hi all. I’m making a little synopsis on the documentary of St Petersburg.

From what I gather, St Petersburg was the Capital City of the Empire, which predates any other big city in the world. It has megalithic structures all over which can be seen from the pictures and this is not Peru, but it has the same building techniques.

Elen

Hello Elen,

I have been watching all the episodes in your series and I think you have done an outstanding job. I particularly enjoyed PART 36 of the survivor series on St. Petersburg. Your buried city observations are spot on for similar conditions can be seen all over the world. The Roman Forum for example is 30 feet below street level. The city was clearly buried at some point. Even newer cities in America have the same signs. Older buildings maybe 200 years old are buried up to their windows New York, Philadelphia, Boston, and Washinton DC.

How can an entire city be buried in fairly recent times? How can such a strange hoax be pulled off without people noticing? I think there may be answer to that.

A strange event happened in Washington DC on August 25th 1814. The city was set on fire by the British army and then was struck by tornadoes and a hurricane. The tornadoes forced the British to retreat and put out the fires. Afterwards the city was covered in debris of which the present city was built upon but still half buried. Even the white house was buried in mud up the second floor. This is even official history according to Smithsonian http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-tornado-that-saved-washington-33901211/?no-ist

Wasn't St. Petersburg burned by Napoleon around this same time. Destroying evidence of Survivor civilization is a time worn trick.

I would also like to share with you some rare photos of the Washington Monument when it was under construction. The Washington Monument was built on top of some much older structure.

http://41.media.tumblr.com/74f873a8babc2666741b19e14801a114/tumblr_n4mb0vIL2A1s7e5k5o1_1280.jpg
Newer brick work and cement being patch around a much older foundation. Clearly ancient.
http://dev.omeka.org/mallhistory/files/fullsize/c0c367f92c4f4749bfe979cf2e8c168d.jpg
Modern workers for size comparison at the top. These are large stones weighing 20 tons originally lifted 500 feet in the air in the 1800s.
https://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/monument.jpg?w=480&h=320&crop=1


Clearly there is evidence of neolithic under the monument. Even the monument itself is quite impressive. Very large 20 ton stones were lifted 500ft in the air. When the monument was damaged in the 2011 Earthquake they covered the whole structure in netting so nobody could see the repairs being done. Nobody must see the masons work their magic.

Elen
18th October 2015, 11:09
Hello Elen,

I have been watching all the episodes in your series and I think you have done an outstanding job. I particularly enjoyed PART 36 of the survivor series on St. Petersburg. Your buried city observations are spot on for similar conditions can be seen all over the world. The Roman Forum for example is 30 feet below street level. The city was clearly buried at some point. Even newer cities in America have the same signs. Older buildings maybe 200 years old are buried up to their windows New York, Philadelphia, Boston, and Washinton DC.



Thank you very much for your post, Novusod. Loved the pictures and your observations on New York and Washington DC. That is very interesting, I'm sure there are many other sites where there is signs of floods and sinking cities.

I must, however, set the record straight: I did not produce this series. All the praise and credit must go to NewEarth. All I did, was discover her work and helping her spread the news. She herself does not claim to know everything and is basing her knowledge on Russian scientists and archeologists.

Me? I am grateful that I am able to comprehend this much and connecting dots without drawing conclusions that will shut the door for more knowledge to be revealed.

Thank you for your considerations, we are all in this together my friend.

Elen

Elen
21st October 2015, 12:06
There are things that look impossible indeed, my goodness. Have a look at the jewellery, so intricate that you can only see it through a magnifying glass, or two. What does it tell you? Statues with fabric so thin, you can see through it or a net so thick and layered that it seems impossible to get in-between them with any kind of tools.

Was Moscow nuked? According to the diary of a French officer in Napoleon’s army, the “fires” in Moscow was an explosion similar to a nuclear explosion that illuminated the whole city and where buildings crumbled. People died immediately and the ones that survived wished they had. Hair-loss nails falling off and bleeding. Seems like a nuclear bomb to me. We’ve been told in history books that Napoleon retreated due to fires, but that was not the whole truth, was it?

Kremlin was originally built with white stones, and now there are only some traces left under a pile of rubble. Artifacts are surfacing from time to time, showing sophistication. Take a look at the Underground railway stations.

Yes, everything is back to front when it comes to progress, and this is worldwide.

This is our stolen history, guys and girls.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2FVwbYy8jk

Elen

Frances
21st October 2015, 14:28
Another fascinating presentation, I do hope she gets the future help with her presentations, as they are unique.
Frances.

Novusod
23rd October 2015, 05:45
There are things that look impossible indeed, my goodness. Have a look at the jewellery, so intricate that you can only see it through a magnifying glass, or two. What does it tell you? Statues with fabric so thin, you can see through it or a net so thick and layered that it seems impossible to get in-between them with any kind of tools.

Elen

Thanks for this episode. I very much enjoyed it.

I wanted to look up the Vorontsov Palace Girl withthe features that appeared to move and was able to locate the image used.

On close inspection the second statue appears to be a forgery. It is of lower quality and none of the marble grains line up. Somebody stole the original and replaced it with a fake. Who ever bought the fake from Bonhams Auction should sue. What this reveals is the cover up of the lost survivor civilization continues to this very day.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Gl7YT02CaKc/VX-fW6REbcI/AAAAAAAAIfo/2C4XLHf9QeQ/s1600/0rOtRBUyYLw.jpg

bsbray
23rd October 2015, 06:41
Thanks for that, Novusod. Maybe this is why the "elites" have such a fascination with collecting art?

jcocks
25th October 2015, 06:34
Making my way through the documentaries now.... My god, there's a lot of interesting stuff in them... Makes me think that the "atlantean" civilization never even really fully sank like we're lead to believe it did.

gord
25th October 2015, 17:44
Thanks for pointing this series of videos out. We've all been messed with for scores of centuries.

Elen
25th October 2015, 17:53
Thanks for pointing this series of videos out. We've all been messed with for scores of centuries.

And I appreciate you "getting it".

Elen

Aianawa
27th October 2015, 03:48
Thankyou for the Russia/Moscow vid, if the nuke in Moscow or some such happening is correct ( I feel so ), it just boggles my mind at the implications, the bigger picture, the not taken and taken potential timelines, etc etc.

Aianawa
29th October 2015, 04:30
Bumping, so a friend I directed to site and thread cannot miss it lol.

Elen
29th October 2015, 14:26
In this episode we take a look at Star Forts and their applications. Star Forts all over the world, and we’ve been told they were used for defence, that does not make sense as the points are sometimes pointing inwards towards their own country, in the surrounding water or your own Fort.

Why are the Star Forts being demolished in places?

Have a look at the beautiful designs they make, like crystals or jewellery as seen from above by their geometric shapes.

Do not draw any conclusions yet, but could they be ancient power stations? Free energy, maybe. She’s clicking pretty fast through maps and pictures, I suspect that she must, in order to show how many. I never knew how many.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2-sN9aTQ6A

Elen

Frances
29th October 2015, 16:05
Another thought provoking & amazing presentation.

I believe her name to be Sylvie, please correct me if I am wrong.
Frances.

Elen
29th October 2015, 16:14
Another thought provoking & amazing presentation.

I believe her name to be Sylvie, please correct me if I am wrong.
Frances.

You are right, Frances.

Divine Feminine
30th October 2015, 01:39
Update on my post #35, scroll down to the bottom where it says Edit To Add. A big thanks to member Rebel&Rocket who steered me to the proper time period allowing me to hone in on the Royal Trinity identification. Next reading I'd be happy to ask about the construction of Angkor Thom if anyone is interested. Sure wish I could remember that part....lol. I ran out of time in the reading because I had quite a bit of material to cover for a project I'm working on in the reincarnation field, so I couldn't get to all my questions.

Novusod
30th October 2015, 04:15
In this episode we take a look at Star Forts and their applications. Star Forts all over the world, and we’ve been told they were used for defence, that does not make sense as the points are sometimes pointing inwards towards their own country, in the surrounding water or your own Fort.

Why are the Star Forts being demolished in places?

Have a look at the beautiful designs they make, like crystals or jewellery as seen from above by their geometric shapes.

Do not draw any conclusions yet, but could they be ancient power stations? Free energy, maybe. She’s clicking pretty fast through maps and pictures, I suspect that she must, in order to show how many. I never knew how many.

Elen

Again thank you for sharing Elen.

What is interesting is how many of these forts have been destroyed. When these forts stood in many cases are nothing but holes in the ground today. They couldn't have all been turned into Rock quarries.

Though I am kind of surprised she did not catch the obvious. Why are these called Batteries:

http://garak.wimp.com/images/sthumbs/2015/03/0df58ead66ed2c8b0fe1aeeba2b0e536_map4.jpg
http://www.indium.com/assets/images/compounds/batteries-lg.jpg

Interesting article here on Palmanova. People didn't even know the town they were living in was shaped like a star until they saw it on Google maps. Says the town only had a few hundred people when it was built in the 1600s so how did so few people build such an impressive fort. Maybe the fort was already there when people moved into it.
http://www.wimp.com/unusualcity/all/

Hard to say but it is certainly a major mystery.

Also found the Corinth Canal while looking some of these forts up. How was this made with primitive tools. Nobody knows, records missing.
http://travelswithhok.com/Ellada_-_I/Entries/2006/5/3_V._Nafplion_and_Environs_files/Corinth_Canal_2.jpghttp://www.achtypistours.gr/sites/default/files/imagecache/galleryformatter_slide/11/09/corinth_canal.jpg
This will give you an idea how big this thing is.
http://www.xtremespots.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/59_3.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/Novuso/HeMan/CorinthCanal_zps0tmwvm8w.jpg
Being repaired in the 1890s to accommodate modern shipping.

Polygonal Masonry at the bottom of the Corinth Canal.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/Novuso/HeMan/CorinthCanal2_zpsi3umcl2a.jpg

Elen
5th November 2015, 10:23
The Mammoth’s sudden disappearance is a real mystery. In this episode she shows us that this must have happened suddenly as the Mammoths found in the ice has undigested food in it’s Trachea and its flesh is still fresh enough to be eaten by the locals. So what is it about the Ice Age that does not add up? Academia can only pretend to know these things; we are only made to believe in their musings and fantasies if we let them. Do we have to accept that we were always evil and ignorant? What if local people remember how the Mammoth was a household domesticated pet?

And again she would like our participation in the research. Would we like to learn remote viewing with her giving us blind targets? There are free lessons on the Far Sight Institutes homepage. You can contact her here: suvivors@public-files.de if you are interested.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBg2FU8m-Yc&list=TL5-0yBUG7hGcwNDExMjAxNQ

Novusod
7th November 2015, 04:24
Part 41 Dinosaurs, the Truth when did the extinction occur?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pW2T6X2wJc

Loved this episode as I am very much a proponent of the humans living with dinosaurs theory.
http://i.imgur.com/ndVzRWz.jpg

bsbray
7th November 2015, 06:15
Pretty mind-blowing stuff. What's interesting to me is that a massive impact event somewhere around Montana is sometimes cited as being the cause for the extinction of the dinosaurs. An impact in that exact same area, only about 12,000 years ago, is now being shown in scientific work by lots of different researchers in different fields, and summarized by Graham Hancock, to have caused catastrophic global flooding and ending the last glaciation. Two catastrophic impacts in the same area, once millions of years ago and then again only about 12,000 years ago? Maybe a coincidence, maybe not.

That could mean many different things, including that something else killed the dinosaurs, or that the same event effectively both killed the dinosaurs (and woolly mammoths, saber-toothed tigers, etc.) and destroyed Atlantis at the same time, as wild as that sounds. I'm not saying that's what I believe happened, but at this point it becomes difficult to rule anything out, especially when it becomes very apparent that carbon dating and the study of geology have some massive problems somewhere that need to be found and addressed. One of these problems with geology is the fact that there are what look like wagon trails fossilized into rock said to be millions of years old in Turkey. So something is off somewhere in the conventional understanding of things.

Novusod
7th November 2015, 06:42
I believe some dinosaurs survived into modern times and may still roam the Earth in isolated pockets. Rather than go extinct all at once they probably died out slowly over the centuries. If there was an impact it probably goes back to the 1700s or 1800s when all the trees in Russia were flattened. However, there were still accounts of dinosaurs being seen in the 20th and 21st century.

One local legend is that of the Jersey Devil which may be an "extinct" dinosaur roaming the pine barrens of Southern New Jersey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08DuLRfpP2w
It literally has been seen by thousands of people.

bsbray
7th November 2015, 07:36
That video makes the Jersey Devil sound a lot like Mothman. Both of them are often interpreted as having been some kind of entity foreshadowing tragic events, if what the video says above is accurate. I tend to put these kinds of experiences in the "paranormal" category, which is a whole other can of worms.

Novusod
7th November 2015, 10:00
The Jersey Devil was first sighted in 1699 and was photographed as recently as 2010. It is not a "paranormal" spirit BUT a living flesh and blood animal. It has been known to kill live stock, cats, and dogs which is seen every year. So many people have seen it over the years including very reputable people such as fire fighters, police officers, ministers, and teachers. Locals even named the state Hockey Team after it: The New Jersey Devils.

http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb349/kevinscryptids/jdintree.jpg

Elen
8th November 2015, 10:54
This is information for those that are interested in taking part in the recovery of our history. Here are the lessons suggested by newearth from the Farsight Institute.org.

Farsight Advanced SRV Lesson 1: Ideograms


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGw9gHfSEwM


Farsight Advanced SRV Lesson 2: Phase 1A-1F


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgM6GLzw-6M


Transistence: Training the Young Masters (Episode 1 - Full Version)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qVVtjmmVw


Audio lessons to download here:

http://farsight.org/SRV/SRVaudioindex.html


There is also a lot of printed material, if you are interested:

http://farsight.org/SRV/index.html


It is really a possibility that we can do this ourselves, recovering our true history. We cannot prove anything, but at least we have a chance to know. Enjoy.

Elen

Elen
9th November 2015, 16:01
Here newearth goes into the lack of real mapping, and where are the satelite images from Google Earth. There is very little that we can access, except some old maps, showing some things never ever mentioned anywhere. I like her choice in music.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5drtERQsNUs

Elen

Novusod
11th November 2015, 12:01
This is information for those that are interested in taking part in the recovery of our history. Here are the lessons suggested by newearth from the Farsight Institute.org.

Farsight Advanced SRV Lesson 1: Ideograms

It is really a possibility that we can do this ourselves, recovering our true history. We cannot prove anything, but at least we have a chance to know. Enjoy.

Elen

There are better techniques than what the Farsight Institute is telling people. When I was a kid I taught myself remote viewing by remote viewing. I knew from a young age there was a way to see through walls using my third eye. To use the 3rd eye there is only two things you need to know.

- The sound of silence. There is no such thing as silence. The absence of sound can be heard as a deafening noise. That noise is not random but intelligent messages from your higher self. If you align your mind to the sound of silence you will become aware of the messages. It works like listening to classical music. Some sounds are intrinsically sad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuNhTLVgV2Y) or happy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge6gX6lYYsk) and every emotion in between. You will know what sounds are which because you know what makes you happy. Just listen to the sound of silence.

- The inner light. There is no such thing as pure darkness. In the absence of external light there is an internal light. This light comes from the pineal gland and is the visual way the higher self communicates with you. If you go into a purely dark room and cover your eyes you will see lights.
I created an animation to show what these inner lights look like.
i.imgur.com/StzHBqr.gif
The shapes and how they move will change depending on what your higher self is trying to tell you. The Greeks called these the Phosphenes.

If you focus on the sound of silence and the inner light your for a minute and then open your eyes your mind will begin to construct a movie for you similar to daydreaming. It is not a day dream though, it is real. If your head goes into the clouds then your consciousness really is in the clouds. Many young children can remote view like this but society and grown ups bully it out of them and as adults we lose this ability. It is not too hard to regain it if you try. Try to remember what it was like when you were a kid. Getting it back is like riding a bike. You never really forget how to do it.

lookbeyond
12th November 2015, 08:16
There are better techniques than what the Farsight Institute is telling people. When I was a kid I taught myself remote viewing by remote viewing. I knew from a young age there was a way to see through walls using my third eye. To use the 3rd eye there is only two things you need to know.

- The sound of silence. There is no such thing as silence. The absence of sound can be heard as a deafening noise. That noise is not random but intelligent messages from your higher self. If you align your mind to the sound of silence you will become aware of the messages. It works like listening to classical music. Some sounds are intrinsically sad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuNhTLVgV2Y) or happy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge6gX6lYYsk) and every emotion in between. You will know what sounds are which because you know what makes you happy. Just listen to the sound of silence.

- The inner light. There is no such thing as pure darkness. In the absence of external light there is an internal light. This light comes from the pineal gland and is the visual way the higher self communicates with you. If you go into a purely dark room and cover your eyes you will see lights.
I created an animation to show what these inner lights look like.
i.imgur.com/StzHBqr.gif
The shapes and how they move will change depending on what your higher self is trying to tell you. The Greeks called these the Phosphenes.

If you focus on the sound of silence and the inner light your for a minute and then open your eyes your mind will begin to construct a movie for you similar to daydreaming. It is not a day dream though, it is real. If your head goes into the clouds then your consciousness really is in the clouds. Many young children can remote view like this but society and grown ups bully it out of them and as adults we lose this ability. It is not too hard to regain it if you try. Try to remember what it was like when you were a kid. Getting it back is like riding a bike. You never really forget how to do it.

Thankyou Novusod, this is exciting! I see what your animation shows often before i sleep. One night i saw a spinning "flower of life" type creation. It was sort of like a kaleidoscope (love those) however the colours were unusual, olive greens, tan, orange, quite dull colours and when i really "stared" into it i felt like i was being pulled from my body, i did this a few times but didnt let myself go because i didnt know what it was.

Novusod
12th November 2015, 13:03
Thankyou Novusod, this is exciting! I see what your animation shows often before i sleep. One night i saw a spinning "flower of life" type creation. It was sort of like a kaleidoscope (love those) however the colours were unusual, olive greens, tan, orange, quite dull colours and when i really "stared" into it i felt like i was being pulled from my body, i did this a few times but didnt let myself go because i didnt know what it was.

If you see a kaleidoscope of colors and a spinning flower of life that means you are going to have a DMT based vision. The pineal gland actually contains DMT which allows your soul to communicate with the astral realms. One does not need to take potions such as Ayahuasca to experience DMT visions. Such higher states of consciousness can be reached through meditation and using the remote viewing technique I described. If you allow yourself to just fall into the vision you will be in for a real treat.

It was through remote viewing that I was able to discover the secret of the Halaf Potery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halaf_culture#Halaf_pottery). The pottery was spun on a potters wheel 7000 years ago to aide mystics in contacting the goddess energies. I actually saw them spinning the pottery it in a vision and created the second animation below based on what I saw.
This has been going around the web ever since Cobra started talking about it but I created this Halaf Pottery animation on my deviant art page a year ago.
http://novuso.deviantart.com/art/Mystery-School-Halaf-Pottery-Part-2-496306171 (Posted Nov 24th 2014)
This is what people see when they have visions. Spinning flower of life. Beyond this spinning flower is a door to another world.

This is just a sample of the potential that this remote viewing technique can reveal. When you let go of fear the truth will appear.

Elen
12th November 2015, 13:22
Thank you Novusod, this is really interesting. You are a real bonus to this thread.

Elen

Dreamtimer
12th November 2015, 13:44
Novusod, that's very interesting. I've noticed these lights and wondered about their relation to dreams and visions. I've never before heard this connection to remote viewing. Fascinating.

gord
13th November 2015, 17:49
I still say "we've all been messed with for scores of centuries" as I said earlier, but regarding #7 in the survivors series "the survivors, 7 - 1000 fabricated years, Isaac Newton and other supporters of the true history", I'd like to see her show us a document with a date using an i in the thousands place of the year, and which describes an eclipse which can be looked up in an ephemeris as occurring exactly 1000 years earlier, before I'll agree with the idea that 1000 years have somehow been inserted into our history.

Elen
13th November 2015, 18:34
Check this out Gord. Maybe you can make sense of it here.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCj_WZIGftI&index=37&list=PLJk0yT4erxuSEyHu-0wfUQ0WulbjtWJOu

There are links on youtube for his website showing his research.
Elen

bsbray
13th November 2015, 18:37
I'd like to see her show us a document with a date using an i in the thousands place of the year, and which describes an eclipse which can be looked up in an ephemeris as occurring exactly 1000 years earlier, before I'll agree with the idea that 1000 years have somehow been inserted into our history.

I'm still digging into all of this to see how much of it pans out in the details, but as far as waiting for a document with New Chronology dating on it (as this is what historians call this theory), ancient people did not use the same system of dating that we do today. Classical authors typically gave dates by saying things like "In the 3rd year of the reign of Tiberius...," or "In the 11th year of the reign of Augustus...". It wasn't until some time in the Middle Ages (according to the conventional dating, at least ;) ) that this kind of dating revolving around Jesus became widely adopted. And even then, when you are questioning how many years ago from today all of these Jesus stories date back to, that creates a whole other problem.

I may be wrong but I think that Sylvie who does these New Earth videos is Christian, so I'm not sure how much she gets into this, but there have been lots of "Jesuses" for a long time.

Check out the comparative tables on this website for an example of the stories of Jesus, Apollonius and Paul being compared: http://www.truthbeknown.com/apollonius.html

This stuff gets pretty deep pretty quick, because Jesus is basically a relatively modern representation of sun god deities of many ancient religions. In the case of the Gauls of France, they taught in the pre-Christian era that the Sun (representing their primary deity) sometimes incarnated on the Earth in human form, and this form was referred to as Hésus. The words Zeus, Deus ("God" in Latin bibles, from which modern words such as dieu/dios/etc. derive), and Jupiter (Indo-European dyaus-pitr, Hindu Dyaus-Pita, meaning "sky father" -- with pita or pitr being related to the Latin pater) also come from a common root related to all of this.


This video describes how Fomenko first came to his ideas about the traditional chronology being totally screwed up:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMplPvA7k


He references the work of this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Russell_Newton

Specifically I am going to be looking to check out this work of Robert Newton's: Ancient astronomical observations and the accelerations of the earth and moon. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press. 1970. ISBN 0-8018-1180-5.

The idea, as it's explained in that video above, is that R. Newton describes the Moon suddenly accelerating and then just as suddenly returning to its former velocity within the historical record. I don't study astrophysics (as Fomenko apparently does) but this doesn't even sound right to me. With the way conservation of momentum works, it sounds to me as though either there was an extremely unlikely set of coincidences involving some foreign body with a significant gravitational pull in the Solar System that first accelerated the Moon and then de-accelerated it exactly back to its original velocity, or else this was done artificially by some other intelligence without anybody on the Earth noticing it... or else (Fomenko's conclusion) the historical record is simply wrong.

I'm going to be digging into all of this in a lot of detail as time goes on. A lot of Fomenko's work is online here:

http://www.chronologia.org/en/seven/chronology1.html

Elen
14th November 2015, 18:58
Thank you bsbray, this was hard to follow, but really worth listening to for the whole ride. My goodness, he did really follow the chronology of every move that was made.

Elen

gord
15th November 2015, 01:28
This stuff gets pretty deep pretty quick, because Jesus is basically a relatively modern representation of sun god deities of many ancient religions. In the case of the Gauls of France, they taught in the pre-Christian era that the Sun (representing their primary deity) sometimes incarnated on the Earth in human form, and this form was referred to as Hésus. The words Zeus, Deus ("God" in Latin bibles, from which modern words such as dieu/dios/etc. derive), and Jupiter (Indo-European dyaus-pitr, Hindu Dyaus-Pita, meaning "sky father" -- with pita or pitr being related to the Latin pater) also come from a common root related to all of this.

Yeah, I read about all of this about 25 years ago.


This video describes how Fomenko first came to his ideas about the traditional chronology being totally screwed up:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMplPvA7k


This video pretty much frenched my brain, and convinced me to look a little further into all of it, instead of just shrugging it off. Thanks for that and the other links.

Elen
15th November 2015, 10:39
Hi gord
I don’t know whether you saw this video. She is showing 1000 fabricated years, Isaac Newton and other supporters of the true history.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kT924EpkHc



And she suggested we look up this link for proof. I know it’s in Russian, but the numbering system is Arabic and Roman, so they are easy to follow. Just scroll down on the page and you can see what is meant.

http://go212.narod.ru/index/0-15

Here is the list of people sceptical of the new cronology, as well.

http://www.ilya.it/chrono/enpages/weristwer.html#N
Elen

bsbray
15th November 2015, 19:47
Also, we're going to be interviewing the woman who does all of these survivors videos in the next couple of weeks or so, so if you come up with any questions you'd like addressed don't hesitate to post them here: http://jandeane81.com/threads/8187-Member-Questions-for-Sylvie-from-the-New-Earth-Videos

Elen
18th November 2015, 12:39
This new is from the NewEarth website. Where she would like help from us:

For anybody who happens to reside near certain historic sites or have friends in the area we would greatly welcome information from those with the opportunity to visit said locales firsthand and share their findings, in the form of field reports, photographs, or in video form. See link for more…

Remote Viewing, Dowsing, Lucid dreams & Channeling (under blind conditions):
We are actively seeking individuals who practice or learn the art of remote viewing, from absolute beginners to seasoned professionals, channelers and those who can access the so-called Akashic records who have an interest in participating in experiments along the lines of those published by the Farsight Institute; ideally we would like to have few dozens of participants viewing a given target under blind conditions (means given a code of the target only and not knowing what is it exactly to avoid contaminating the data with preconceived ideas about the site, person or even that is being viewed ). If 20 out of 50 people see a similar story under blind conditions then this story must have some truth to it. We could view multiple targets every month if we could find a team of remote views, the final results of which would be shared for free. Ideally information obtained through such projects could eventually lead to possible archaeological surveys and digs at hitherto unknown sites around the globe. If you have interest in participating in projects along these lines please do not hesitate to contact us at survivors@public-files.de and we will be sure to include you in such endeavours.

Link here: http://megaliths.org/getinvolved-in-alternative-history-research.html

Elen

Novusod
18th November 2015, 23:24
This new is from the NewEarth website. Where she would like help from us:

For anybody who happens to reside near certain historic sites or have friends in the area we would greatly welcome information from those with the opportunity to visit said locales firsthand and share their findings, in the form of field reports, photographs, or in video form. See link for more…

Remote Viewing, Dowsing, Lucid dreams & Channeling (under blind conditions):


Elen

I have been sending her e-mails for a couple of weeks now about remote viewing and the hidden monuments of New York and Washington Monument.

Some examples of things I sent her: Roman style Aqueduct in New York City
http://i.imgur.com/WZ5EZiY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Y6sf2Q8.jpg

Aianawa
18th November 2015, 23:31
Just Dang, love this.

Am flicking through old NY paintings of mansions etc, some feel out of place, this sorta stuff gets me excited. ta.

Novusod
19th November 2015, 01:57
Just Dang, love this.

Am flicking through old NY paintings of mansions etc, some feel out of place, this sorta stuff gets me excited. ta.

New York is incredible city. It is not just a bunch of skyscrapers. It is built on some old ruins of a lost civilization.

Old statues and columns thrown in the dump. Some where thrown in the sea.
http://i.imgur.com/prUPwnE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XnPANDf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jgmmC1n.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BaSNwW9.jpg
Little Atlantis neighborhood:
http://traditional-building.com/Steve_Semes/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Semes-31-Reed-fig3-municipal-building.jpg
http://www.e-architect.co.uk/images/jpgs/new_york/manhattan_bridge_sse210909_2.jpg
http://38.media.tumblr.com/f4f08688318090a9c470011e84581ce0/tumblr_inline_mw4vft3lNH1sqgw83.jpg
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/10/16/nyregion/DINKINS-1/DINKINS-1-master675.jpg

Frances
19th November 2015, 02:45
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/8A8E67B2-70EE-4DDE-85EE-3D7565D0B811_zpsb5tvecxc.jpg (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/nicolaR1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/8A8E67B2-70EE-4DDE-85EE-3D7565D0B811_zpsb5tvecxc.jpg.html)

Source :- http://www.floridatoday.com/story/ne...-old/24605553/

Link to the full article and story, floridatoday.com

Mysterious Florida sculptures may be 1,000 years old

For nearly a decade, the mysterious stone women lay quietly in a bed of fallen leaves behind the Museum of the Apopkans.

They were not from here, it was clear. They did not belong here, it was clearer.

Unearthed in 2005 by a work crew digging up a broken water pipe on the grounds of the Highland Manor banquet and wedding venue, three of the unusual figures depict busty, topless women , some say Indonesian goddesses adorned with jewelry and headdresses but toting earthen pots. Each weighs several hundred pounds.

A fourth is a large stone head.

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/BC2C476C-773A-4DC1-AA99-B1CD8CB93A66_zpsfrimojne.jpg (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/nicolaR1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/BC2C476C-773A-4DC1-AA99-B1CD8CB93A66_zpsfrimojne.jpg.html)

"Maybe they're some kind of glorified lawn art," said Apopka Mayor Joe Kilsheimer, citing one of the many casual explanations for the carvings.

Perhaps they are junk, perhaps they are art, thought Annie Belle Gilliam, the 93-year-old curator of the museum, a nonprofit repository for Apopka history. The carvings had been in her care ever since workers on the city crew dumped them in the museum's backyard because they didn't know where else to take them.

No one claimed or could explain them. They were mostly ignored.
Frances

Novusod
19th November 2015, 05:58
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/8A8E67B2-70EE-4DDE-85EE-3D7565D0B811_zpsb5tvecxc.jpg (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/nicolaR1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/8A8E67B2-70EE-4DDE-85EE-3D7565D0B811_zpsb5tvecxc.jpg.html)

Source :- http://www.floridatoday.com/story/ne...-old/24605553/

Link to the full article and story, floridatoday.com

Mysterious Florida sculptures may be 1,000 years old

For nearly a decade, the mysterious stone women lay quietly in a bed of fallen leaves behind the Museum of the Apopkans.

They were not from here, it was clear. They did not belong here, it was clearer.

Unearthed in 2005 by a work crew digging up a broken water pipe on the grounds of the Highland Manor banquet and wedding venue, three of the unusual figures depict busty, topless women , some say Indonesian goddesses adorned with jewelry and headdresses but toting earthen pots. Each weighs several hundred pounds.

A fourth is a large stone head.

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/BC2C476C-773A-4DC1-AA99-B1CD8CB93A66_zpsfrimojne.jpg (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/nicolaR1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/BC2C476C-773A-4DC1-AA99-B1CD8CB93A66_zpsfrimojne.jpg.html)

"Maybe they're some kind of glorified lawn art," said Apopka Mayor Joe Kilsheimer, citing one of the many casual explanations for the carvings.

Perhaps they are junk, perhaps they are art, thought Annie Belle Gilliam, the 93-year-old curator of the museum, a nonprofit repository for Apopka history. The carvings had been in her care ever since workers on the city crew dumped them in the museum's backyard because they didn't know where else to take them.

No one claimed or could explain them. They were mostly ignored.
Frances

Nice job point out that mystery:

here are a few more articles on the Florida Apopka sculptures:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-apopka-mystery-ancient-carvings-20150227-story.html
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-apopka-old-sculptures-20150307-story.html

Article says they are made of volcanic rock not native to Florida.

Elen
19th November 2015, 08:11
Great job my friends. This is very exiting. Novusod, I said you’re a bonus to this thread, and you know…I MEANT IT. Frances, trust you to come up with another mystery. I love it! I’ll notify Sylvie about this.

If some of the visitors think they also have seen something that should be mentioned, please don’t be shy. Sign up and post pictures or stories. This is for all of us; let’s help each other remember our history.

Frances
19th November 2015, 19:55
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/16E980F8-9150-4DE7-94F8-0DC1271B4B69.png_zps21geqpnk.jpeg (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/nicolaR1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/16E980F8-9150-4DE7-94F8-0DC1271B4B69.png_zps21geqpnk.jpeg.html)

Ancient Symbol The Hamsa found in Moundville Alabama & Winterville Mounds Mississipi U.S.A.

Source :- M.K. Davis.


http://youtu.be/O0Cy2vkXDfo

Short video 9:35. Published Jan 28th 2013.

Although the hamsa hand has been symbolic in Islam and Judaism for centuries, archeological digs in the Middle East provide evidence that the hamsa pre-dates these religions and originated with the Phoenicians and was used as a protective symbol for an ancient Middle Eastern goddess. The hamsa hand has always been associated with a female entity offering protection from evil and misfortune.

Hamsa Hand Symbology
The word “hamsa” or “hamesh” means five. There are five digits on the hamsa hand, but the number five has additional symbolic meaning in the Jewish and Islamic traditions. Five (hamesh in Hebrew) represents the five books of the Torah for Jews. It also symbolizes the fifth letter of the Hebrew alphabet, "Heh", which represents one of God’s holy names. It symbolizes the Five Pillars of Islam for Sunnis, and the Five People of the Cloak for Shi'ites.

In the Jewish religion, the Jewish hamsa hand also symbolizes the Hand of God. Many Jews believe the hamsa pendant symbolizes the Hand of Miriam, the sister of Moses and Aaron. In the Islamic faith, the hamsa hand symbolizes The Hand of Fatima, daughter of the Prophet Mohammed.
Many Jews believe that the five fingers of the hamsa hand remind its wearer to use their five senses to praise God. Hamsa hands often contain an eye symbol, which is a powerful talisman against the evil eye.

Source:- http://www.lebtahor.com/Archaeology/inscriptions/khirbet%20el%20qom%20tomb%20inscription.htm

A further development of Tanit involved the open hand of blessing, which was also protective. This is evidenced by the following stelae from Carthage. This hand symbol continues and becomes more dominant, especially in Judaism and Islam.

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/5EB95F9C-25BD-4674-BDC1-A6125F7371B2_zpsdauqh6ve.jpg (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/nicolaR1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-11/5EB95F9C-25BD-4674-BDC1-A6125F7371B2_zpsdauqh6ve.jpg.html)

Within Judaism, the protective, blessing hand is called a Hamesh. Within Islam, it is called the Hand of Fatima, Hamsa / khamsa / chamsa , which is Arabic for five – the fingers and thumb. These amulets are rampant within Judaism and Islam. “A frequent occurrence is a hand inscribed on the paper parchment amulets. Silver amulets made in the form of hands are common and are usually North African in origin and the hand is supposed to ward off the ‘evil eye.’ It is considered by some to be the hand of Fatima, who was Muhammad’s daughter, but hands have appeared on North African amulets since the times of the Carthaginians and these people antedate the Muslim tradition by more than a thousand years. The tradition of using hands on amulets still persists strongly in Morocco, Tunis, and Algeria, as well as throughout the Muslim world.

So with this history, you have to ask the question, what are these symbols doing in a Native American Burial Mound?
Frances.

bsbray
19th November 2015, 22:04
Along the lines of the post above, there were thousands of artifacts dug up in Michigan which appear to be some form of Judaism, thought by some to be some form of dualistic Coptic Judaism from Egypt, with weird UFO-like eye symbols, but also styles of dress that do look Native American:

http://www.chadstuemke.com/wp-content/uploads/image018.gif

http://www.chadstuemke.com/wp-content/uploads/image022.gif

http://www.chadstuemke.com/wp-content/uploads/image028.gif

http://www.chadstuemke.com/wp-content/uploads/image030.gif

http://www.chadstuemke.com/wp-content/uploads/image053.gif

Tower of Babel?:

http://www.chadstuemke.com/wp-content/uploads/image044.gif

http://chadstuemke.com/michigan-relics/


In fact all of the above looks like a combination of artifacts from different cultures, with the depiction of what looks like Jesus being crucified while Roman soldiers look on, what look like Native Americans in another tablet, and a writing that looks like some kind of mixture between Hebrew and Sumerian cuneiform. The link above also shows a copper axe.

This wouldn't be the only find like this in North America. There was also a find in a cave somewhere along the Mississippi or Ohio River, that I have notes about in a file on another computer. There were artifacts there from a number of ancient cultures, as if it were a horde of ancient pirate treasure, and there were also maps found there carved onto stone that fit with the courses of the Mississippi and its tributaries, all the way up to the Great Lakes, which were (historically accurately) depicted as one body of water, as they were about 2000 years ago or so.

If there was a lot of naval travel to North America in the ancient past then it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that there might also be piracy and ships of different nationalities boarding each other and taking each others' loot. But the tablets in Michigan shown above look more to me like someone relocated an entire ancient library.

Other links:

http://mathisencorollary.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-michigan-relics-aka-michigan-tablets.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_relics


These things are just a curiosity at the moment, but I get the feeling that when they are better understood, they will shed a lot of light on ancient history. I'd love to see these in a museum.

Novusod
26th November 2015, 01:20
Egyptian stone bowls we cannot recreate today:

Carved from a single stone.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/23/fa/a1/23faa127c4ff18fbc1e21793d7724539.jpg

Evidence of drilling:
http://i.imgur.com/NgkUSXU.jpg

Mini documentary about them. These things are truly incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AGscdd1hnA

Novusod
28th November 2015, 13:49
Sylvie (NewEarth) is back with another video.

Rock art and Lemurian artifacts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci2OWn7jtqY

Charlie C
28th November 2015, 16:54
Hey Novusod, I folowed one of your links on a posting from Dis~infowars.com from a different thread. You have so much knowledge and I feel like a neophyte compared to some of the things you talk about. You are well versed in Egyptian knowledge as well as things occultic. I just joined this sight yesterday and look forward to more of your postings... I will see you around here, as well as Jonny's site. Cheers fellow traveler!

Novusod
28th November 2015, 22:47
Hey Novusod, I folowed one of your links on a posting from Dis~infowars.com from a different thread. You have so much knowledge and I feel like a neophyte compared to some of the things you talk about. You are well versed in Egyptian knowledge as well as things occultic. I just joined this sight yesterday and look forward to more of your postings... I will see you around here, as well as Jonny's site. Cheers fellow traveler!

Hello Charlie, welcome to the OneTruth Forum. I always enjoyed your posts on Dis-infowars.com as I read that site fairly regularly. I look forward to reading your commentary here if you decide to become a regular poster. I would highly recommend watching some of the videos in this thread as there is a wealth of information about the hidden history of the planet. Selvie's information is spot on and meshes well with many of the cryptic things Jonny has said over the years. There are many fine posters here on the OneTruth who have incredible knowledge of occult topics. Much of what I learned over the years has come from patiently reading others' posts and listening to obscure gurus such as Jonny and then visualizing all the information together. Anyhow, I hope you enjoy your stay.

Regards.

***

Some analysis of the last video on the Lemurian people may prove insightful. What particularly stood out to me was the mention that the Lemurians before becoming an advanced civilization progressed quickly from a primitive tribal state to space travel without the intermediate industrial stage between primitive and highly advanced. This fact has been mentioned before from various sources. Most species in the galaxy did not go through this industrial state as we humans are going through right now. They evolved by going straight from tribal existence to space travel. A species would learn all its life lessons in a primitive state and achieve enlightenment by becoming aware of its' multi dimensional existence. From this enlightened state of the primitive tribes would then bypass the suffering of industrialism and go right into the study of sound and vibration which would allow them to leap frog over what modern human civilization has achieved.

What is interesting is that the Lemurians nearly achieved true enlightenment and then lost it because they became afraid of violence. They only had one life lesson left to learn and that was to conquer fear. However, the Lemurians could not conquer fear and thus slowly lost their enlightenment. The planet we see today is the result of eons of living in fear and seeking to control fear rather than conquering fear. One fundamental truth is that when you let go of fear the truth will appear. In mystery teachings this is called the dark night of the soul. Unfortunately this dark night has become a dark age or really multiple dark ages at the point. There is a reason the universe is showing us nothing but terrorism and fear. "They" want us to conquer it. Not run away from it. Not pretend it doesn't exist. Conquer it.

The universe has been waiting 20,000 years for this day to occur. Our species may finally complete what Lemurians set out to do eons ago and failed.
This is our time:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a6/2f/39/a62f392f78e85b8fc981668e26683eda.jpg
This is why the truth is starting to appear right NOW.

Maggie
29th November 2015, 19:57
The planet we see today is the result of eons of living in fear and seeking to control fear rather than conquering fear. One fundamental truth is that when you let go of fear the truth will appear. In mystery teachings this is called the dark night of the soul. Unfortunately this dark night has become a dark age or really multiple dark ages at the point. There is a reason the universe is showing us nothing but terrorism and fear. "They" want us to conquer it. Not run away from it. Not pretend it doesn't exist. Conquer it.

I believe personally that whatever the past, it is true that conquering fear is "what to do". Blessings to us on this path!! Maggie

This is an old documentary but I notice that many themes appear in other places.

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more posted here....

Legend of Atlantis (best quality) Parts 1-5 by Elia the Prophet (http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,17825.0.html)

Novusod
5th December 2015, 04:21
Another survivor series video posted today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM40uZrwULQ

Elen
6th December 2015, 19:02
Here is the whole interview as seen on the TOT Youtube account. And it's been suggested that we see it here on the thread, by Ainawa, so here it is.

Elen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFHuRwu0Ozg

Elen
10th December 2015, 09:22
Here is a presentation on Petra of Jordan; I had no idea that there are so many similarities to Cappadocia the underground cities of Turkey. Unless you have been there, how would you know?
With a few examples, Sylvie shows how the official story is full of “holes” and becomes impossible. Enjoy…


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEGYvLo4N-Y

Elen

Dreamtimer
10th December 2015, 13:19
I must know who does the intro music to this video on Petra. Anyone recognize it?

bsbray
10th December 2015, 19:17
It would be great if Sylvie could incorporate text giving those kinds of credits. The images are another issue, because I've seen some amazing things in her videos and then had no idea how to find them again online, or what I was even looking at.

Elen
11th December 2015, 10:36
Hi Dreamtimer.

I e-mailed Sylvie. This is Mongolian Throat Singing by Boerte. If you like it, there’s quite a lot of it on YouTube.

Elen



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBTnkSYNgwU

Dreamtimer
11th December 2015, 18:46
Thank you so much Elen.

Elen
13th December 2015, 18:21
Just in case anybody has ever wondered if we could produce these kind of things today with our modern equipment, I rest my case on this one. 2-3mm thick saw marks with a large diameter sawblade. Yes, we can cut stone today, but with a 3cm thick blade. 10 times the thickness. I’ll leave it up to you to think for yourself.

Elen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XhdckpIf6U

Novusod
14th December 2015, 01:04
Just in case anybody has ever wondered if we could produce these kind of things today with our modern equipment, I rest my case on this one. 2-3mm thick saw marks with a large diameter sawblade. Yes, we can cut stone today, but with a 3cm thick blade. 10 times the thickness. I’ll leave it up to you to think for yourself.

Elen


The first cave appears to be soapstone or talt as it is sometimes called. It has the consistency of hard Parmesan cheese and you can cut into it with a pocket knife. The carved graffiti and powdery debris is the give away. Talt stone also expands when exposed to moisture so it is likely the cutting grooves were wider at one point and then narrowed due to the moisture absorption of the rock.

Talt (Mohs hardness 1.5)
Gypsum (Mohs hardness 2)
Alabaster (Mohs hardness 3)

All can be cut with hand tools such as these.
http://i.imgur.com/8szLMnC.jpg

Not Limestone or Granite though with (Mohs 5-6)

This why the second "unrecorded" Limestone quarry is more interesting. Parts of it are indeed extremely old but some of it appears to have been worked very recently. At the 24:30-26:00 minutes mark the ground is completely barren with no plant growth. The modern quarry example that was examined earlier in the video was more over grown with plants than this one. However, just because it is new not mean that the quarry does not have important secrets to give up. This recent quarry work is likely the results of decades of black market activity during soviet era that likely continued even afterwards into the 21st century. Since it was black market there would be no record of who was doing the carving.

http://i.imgur.com/6tP2o9B.jpg

Guarantee there are people in the nearby villages who know how this was carved because they were the ones who did it with their own hands. Since there is no sign of heavy equipment there is a good chance the miners were using the harmonious cutting techniques of the survivors. Finding someone with living knowledge of the ancient stone cutters and masons is a real possibility in that valley. Researchers just have to ask the right questions.

Maggie
14th December 2015, 18:43
Just in case anybody has ever wondered if we could produce these kind of things today with our modern equipment, I rest my case on this one.

The vitreous "marks" of stone cutting look similar IMO all over the world. The slick surfaces are a trademark.
Discussion has been going on for some time bout geopolymers, the slick stone vitrefication found in Egypt then in Peru. Until really recently I had no idea how many sites in the world have the same evidence.

And the underground and the cave dwellings that are also in SO many places.

Just head scratching with the intensity of wonder....


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In 1997 Laura Lee described her discussions with Dr. Ivan Watkins, a Professor of Geology at St. Cloud University in Minnesota. Lee reports that "The methods that are supposed to have been used by the ancients, such as pounding, hammering, grinding, polishing with abrasives, and wedging, just don't match up with what Watkins sees under the microscope."


..... Similar to a ceramic glaze, heat can melt quartz fragments into a glaze that fills in irregularities, creating a smooth surface..

In an effort to discover just how such surfaces could have been obtained by ancient cultures, Watkins went looking for modern technology that produces a similar signature. He found an important clue in the work of geologist David Lindroth, at the US Bureau of Mines, Twin Cities Research Center. Lindroth was using 100 watts of light energy, focused to a circle of 2 mm, to cut through any rock, in a process called "thermal disaggregation." Ancient Precision Stone Cutting (http://www.lauralee.com/articles/stonecut.htm)

http://reach-unlimited.com/_img/bvcgdwc1jxsgdlbeksxdktrz2fvla0.jpg


Ancient sun sects like the Incans and the Egyptians that worshiped a Sun God may have been taught their solar stonecraft technology by higher beings, which may even include the Atlanteans. Using large, dish-shaped reflectors made up of alloys of gold and silver, the sun worshiping civilizations managed to teach themselves or were taught by other beings how to use the light-focusing technology to amplify sunlight and silently cut and shape stones as hard as granite to build temples, palaces, and citadels as well as pyramids.Ancient Stone Cutting
Magnifying Solar Rays to Build Egyptian and Incan Structures and Artefacts (http://www.reach-unlimited.com/p/1241403463/secret-solar-tech--ancient-stone-cutting-methods-by-incans-and-egyptians)


"Making Something Out of Nothing Using Nothing (renewable energy)"

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PARABOLIC DISH MIRROR


From Adion Chen
I had built two parabolic solar dishes, one is 120cm diameter, the other is 60cm diameter, temperature and focal zone diameter of 120cm-dish is around 200 degree C and 12cm; temperature and focal zone diameter of 60cm-dish is around 150 degree C and 8cm. If you increase the manufacturing accuracy of it, to let the focal zone area become smaller, the temperature will get higher.

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Sun Disks of Antiquity Links (https://secretsofthesunsects.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/sun-disks-of-antiquity-links/)support the view expressed in The Ancient Solar Premise that sun dishes were common in antiquity. Some are imitations of the original devices, but the majority work at least as fire-starters. Some just link to images from the various cultures of the dishes being used or where they were worn. Once the construction technique outlined here is accepted as the method for making Burning Mirrors, these ‘ceremonial’ and vanity objects take on characteristics of devices.

https://i0.wp.com/www.lessing-photo.com/p2/060301/06030143.jpg

The Math
The Math Behind Burning Mirrors shows the math and construction technique that enabled renowned ancient craftsmen to make incredibly powerful solar concentrators. It is recognized that these devices are still useful today for materials researchers in a number of fields. It is so important that the details of these potent solar concentrators are freely available to any scientist or craftsman who wishes to utilize them. (https://www.smashwords.com/extreader/read/30931/1/the-math-behind-burning-mirrors)

Elen
14th December 2015, 20:31
The vitreous "marks" of stone cutting look similar IMO all over the world. The slick surfaces are a trademark.
Discussion has been going on for some time bout geopolymers, the slick stone vitrefication found in Egypt then in Peru. Until really recently I had no idea how many sites in the world have the same evidence.

And the underground and the cave dwellings that are also in SO many places.

Just head scratching with the intensity of wonder....


1lmblkIYNLU
In 1997 Laura Lee described her discussions with Dr. Ivan Watkins, a Professor of Geology at St. Cloud University in Minnesota. Lee reports that "The methods that are supposed to have been used by the ancients, such as pounding, hammering, grinding, polishing with abrasives, and wedging, just don't match up with what Watkins sees under the microscope."

Thank you Maggie, that's helpful knowledge.

Elen


http://reach-unlimited.com/_img/bvcgdwc1jxsgdlbeksxdktrz2fvla0.jpg



"Making Something Out of Nothing Using Nothing (renewable energy)"

ptUj8JRAYu8

PARABOLIC DISH MIRROR



BtxdYgkcGtc



https://i0.wp.com/www.lessing-photo.com/p2/060301/06030143.jpg

The Math
The Math Behind Burning Mirrors shows the math and construction technique that enabled renowned ancient craftsmen to make incredibly powerful solar concentrators. It is recognized that these devices are still useful today for materials researchers in a number of fields. It is so important that the details of these potent solar concentrators are freely available to any scientist or craftsman who wishes to utilize them. (https://www.smashwords.com/extreader/read/30931/1/the-math-behind-burning-mirrors)

Thank you Maggie, that's really helpful.

Elen

Maggie
14th December 2015, 20:44
Thank you Maggie, that's really helpful.

Elen

So glad it is helpful!!!


Archimedes: Brennspiegel als Strahlenwaffen, Theorie und Praxis

STREPSiADES Have you ever seen a beautiful, transparent stone at the druggists', with which you may kindle fire?
SOCRATES You mean a crystal lens.
STREPSiADES That's right. Well, now if i placed myself with this stone in the sun and a long way off from the clerk, while he was writing out the conviction, i could make all the wax, upon which the words were written, melt.
Aristophanes 420 BC, THE CLOUDS

The ancients knew all about calculations for burning mirrors Archimedes and his Burning Mirrors (http://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/Science/en/Mirrors.html)

http://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/ImagesGR/Mirrors.jpg (http://www.hellenicaworld.com/Greece/Science/en/Mirrors.html)

http://www.unmuseum.org/burn_mirror_arch.jpg

http://www.unmuseum.org/burning_mirror_diagram.jpg

Oh, and water (big droplet) makes a perfect parabola and becomes a lens

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Terra
15th December 2015, 21:18
Am late to this party, but slowly making my way through the material. Thanks so much for posting Elen, and BSBray for the interview :thup:. Have only got as far as number 7 so far, that one really is a jaw dropper. Made me think of Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett's work, and the comet of 562 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWVeCP0bluc).

Sylvie, if you are reading this, thank you very very much for all your time and hard work on these clips, you have done a brilliant job. I look forward to watching them all and seeing more of your findings. Truely amazing stuff!

Cheers

Elen
18th December 2015, 17:50
Heads up guys and girls. Sylvie is looking for help with voiceover for her documentaries. This segment is a trial for testing your abilities. If you have a nice English speaking voice, here’s your chance to make a difference. Please do!

I've gotten used to her voice and language abilities, so for me this is not a problem, but she thinks it would be beneficial, so why not.

She tells you how to proceed.

Thank you.

Elen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RJAv3hSOVw

Frances
18th December 2015, 18:13
Great idea, volume is not very high on I Pads so I don't like to miss out on any words, although I do like Sylvie's voice.
Frances.

Dreamtimer
18th December 2015, 20:00
Sylvie has some wonderful inflections in her voice. I would miss them.

It is difficult for some to understand. I can understand her desire.

bsbray
18th December 2015, 21:05
I like her voice too. I can also understand why she would want someone else to narrate, but I hope we'll still get to hear her own voice.

Maggie
19th December 2015, 03:28
Why is it so prevalent to see people taking positions when we do have evidence of megaliths and artifacts but just beginning knowledge of what this means? It is true that I have been influenced by the idea that major catastrophe and trauma have been in our experience. The ideas like the Hopi mythology of "previous worlds" has made sense. The Biblical idea that we modern Earthlings have just had this one historic "time" of Creation makes no sense to me.

Today Sylvie posted a video where she stated around the 14:00 minute mark that she does not believe there was an ancient comet related cataclysm that destroyed the megalithic culture 12800 years ago (as noted by Graham Hancock). She brings up the descriptions that are in the Vedas and elsewhere of an ancient war and geological/climate changes from geo-engineering?

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HERE also this week Graham Hancock wrote in an article his opinion and others concerning a significant chance of ELE cometary events as an ongoing danger.

Fall of the House of History
Our Past Was Erased by Catastrophes (http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/2015/12/fall-of-house-of-history-our-past-was.html)

and from the reposting of GH's article on ZenGardner's website, a comment led me to this source Comyns Beaumont (who has not been acknowledged as a source by Immanuel Velikovsky or GH)


Comyns Beaumont
& the Keys to World History
(http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/comyns-beaumont.html)
n 1970, after labouring for eight (successful) years to promote recognition of Dr. Immanuel Velikovsky’s work, I came upon the work of the British catastrophist writer, Comyns Beaumont.

I was puzzled that his name had not come to light during my many talks with Dr. V. Nor did it appear while I was president of Cosmos and Chronos: Study Groups for Interdisciplinary Science, a Velikovskian campus-oriented effort. Nor did it show up in the many activities and debates on V’s behalf.

It wasn’t until I was cast free of the Velikovskians, and pursued my own studies of catastrophism, that I accidentally came upon The Riddle of the Earth, the first of Beaumont’s five books of a new catastrophism.

Its title was the attraction, but its contents proved to be even more magnetic. The book is written in the form of theses (over 100 of them), summarizing his thoughts on cometary catastrophe. Written in 1925, it read like the 1950s bombshell Worlds in Collision........
..............
The Effects of Comets
The crux of Beaumont’s schema is that the history of our planet, and the solar system within which it exists, is largely the product of cometary intrusions and their effects. Its social life (civilization) arose with the Celts in the north, especially in the British Isles and Scandinavia – the Atlantis of myth.

Although there was no actual sinking of Atlantis – Britain, some of its western areas were permanently submerged and the island was ravaged by electromagnetic waves of cosmic energy, exploding volcanoes, earthquakes, hurricane storms, and tidal waves. As a result of the catastrophe, the temperature dropped. Beaumont identifies the main agent of this historical event as the planet Saturn (Zeus-Chronos) becoming a comet, in myth, the serpent of the sky, and Phaeton, the terror of the skies. Its ravaged body produced a son, a new planet = a new sky god, Jupiter (a new Zeus), to rule a renewed Earth.

I also found a pdf that IMO has value. It restates what GH and Randall Carlson have suggested and ties into the The Thunderbolts Project view.


From the Thunderbolts Forum (http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7294)IMO, his work is essential for anyone wanting to take a deeper look at the likely chronology of cataclysmic Earth changes since the end of the last ice age. In addition he posits solar and Earth events prior to this period. Some readers are stunned to see so many specific dates attributed to planetary incursions. However, if you spend enough time with his material you will learn how he substantiates these. I find it exciting, because he is one of the few people willing to take this plunge and connect various dots that help tie in various developments in human society.

Some of his basic beliefs on the Saturnian configuration and its formation are different from Talbott and Cardona, but much follows a similar course, yet fleshed out in much greater detail.



Recovering the Lost World, A Saturnian Cosmology -- Jno Cook (http://saturniancosmology.org/pdf/)

bsbray
19th December 2015, 04:19
I'm still piecing all of this together myself bit by bit, Maggie, so I'm curious to know what people like Hancock and Sylvie are looking at that have convinced them, though they have come to different conclusions. Actually I am more familiar with Hancock's work in this regard and it does seem convincing to me that something major happened. How to distinguish between a comet and a war may become an issue in itself, and then there's the idea (which is not new, actually), that some ancient race sent a meteor/comet into the Earth as a weapon. That last idea would be nearly impossible to prove, especially just looking at the physical evidence.

These are the perfect issues for debates. I'm not sure if Sylvie is the debating type, but a collision of these different ways of approaching the past could raise great questions and open even more doors to us for investigation. Short of that we are just left to do a lot of homework and try to see how the pieces best fit together ourselves. It would be great it someone were able to organize some kind of round table conference or debate in the future between researchers who approach the past all from different angles, as well as a mainstream historian or two, just to see what kind of exchange comes out of it.

sandy
19th December 2015, 05:17
Well I think they do agree that there have been ancient civilizations here and possibly many of them throughout the millennium >>>what happened is the question now and a debate would be awesome!!

Maggie
19th December 2015, 05:25
I'm still piecing all of this together myself bit by bit, Maggie, so I'm curious to know what people like Hancock and Sylvie are looking at that have convinced them, though they have come to different conclusions. Actually I am more familiar with Hancock's work in this regard and it does seem convincing to me that something major happened. How to distinguish between a comet and a war may become an issue in itself, and then there's the idea (which is not new, actually), that some ancient race sent a meteor/comet into the Earth as a weapon. That last idea would be nearly impossible to prove, especially just looking at the physical evidence.

These are the perfect issues for debates. I'm not sure if Sylvie is the debating type, but a collision of these different ways of approaching the past could raise great questions and open even more doors to us for investigation. Short of that we are just left to do a lot of homework and try to see how the pieces best fit together ourselves. It would be great it someone were able to organize some kind of round table conference or debate in the future between researchers who approach the past all from different angles, as well as a mainstream historian or two, just to see what kind of exchange comes out of it.

Yes, it would be wonderful to see a round table discussion of these perfect issues (Hint Hint).

The home work is immense and interesting and vital to our well being. Both GH and Sylvie are important investigative journalists.


I'm curious to know what people like Hancock and Sylvie are looking at that have convinced them

ME too.

I think that perhaps there is a Christian apologist angle from Fomenko and perhaps a bias toward a kind of cultural romanticism about the "Russian" connection?

It is absolutely wild for me to tie in some threads...The Saturn Death Cult (http://saturndeathcult.com/)is IMO a basic paranoid supplication of the Gods (sacrifice and appeasement) that is at the heart of the historic feel of religion we all inherited (as a part of the now culture). The heathen culture was definitely targeted. We feel the loss of a paradise world we can recall in our ideals. There is romance in this search and romance is meant as a fundamental innate journey to find "ourselves". It could be very emotionally charged.

I think some like Henrik Palmgren (Red Ice Creations) who seeks his roots are taking an easy way out by feeling the threat to us as beings is from our human family mingling. The threat is that we become ever more polarizzed in superstitious beliefs and cling to our POV. That is IMO.

So the thread of knowledge of a real science of the cosmos is my mind an antitesis of these paranoid ideas of the need for blood sacrifice, control, elite-ism (selects of various shades with the Gods Blessing).Only piercing trauma explains to me the depth of pain and fear we have in our hearts. Natural events though catyclysmic were projected out of "distortion of the human mind" and symbolized romantically perhaps as war in the heavens of celestial bodies. I would imagine there was a split in the collective mind that I think was caused by overwhelming guilt and fear of survival.

But these are ideas I find interesting but I am no expert. Many threads of a tapestry united by researchers disoveries make a picture.

Maggie
19th December 2015, 06:45
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One place that GH and Sylvie converge is their interest in teacher plants as avenues to awaken. I have personal experience with Ayahausca, Salvia nd fungus and cactus entheogens. I think the entheogens are allies.

My experience is of the Divine matrix that is natural and sentient. I know also something from the plants themselves. There is much more to experience than we use. Teacher plants including marijuana are here with us lovingly.

OK, so is this a Lemurian strain of consciousness, the teachers of life skills? My question is that magalithic culture was Lemurian. I see the contrast developing later as right brain technology and left brain technology. And that there came a loss of whole brain thinking. Then a new world?

I cannot help but be woowoo in my approach. I sinerely experience tyhat there is Creator and a plan for creation to live and develop through experience.

My feeling is how full of static our energy may become. Our vibrational energies are needing MOVEMENT and Coherence. We see how heart math research has measured the heart field. We are our field and THERE is a larger and larger field we live in. Can we see ourselves as plasma beings?

The Gods and Goddesses" are not anthropomorphic but innate aspects of EVERYTHING, the neters understood in Egypt. The Principles are primordial IMO. We tune them in preceding our manifesting of them. Here I think of all how human frequency expresses qualities like compassion, curiosity, loyalty, integrity in the face of hard ship, appreiation of sovereign beingness, hypercommunication with other frequencies we share as our space with others, Rediscovering elemental language as sound, geometry, OH all sorts of neters to appreciate!! This is my Ideal of what reconnecting with ourselves as thrival beings means.

So I am looking at how the megalithic culture looks to me Lemurian and preceded Atlantian culture. I am looking at the clash of values mythologized:

IMO the Survivors who are not identified are the human qualities preserved in many out of the way spots. These qualities supercede individual culture. It is the IMO the higher mind of Gaia at work in archetypes we can choose of quality. I think Edgar Cayce gave emphasis to "Ideals" that guide us. I like the ones I describe as natural in cooperation with Life principles.

Here is a story that I found looking for Lemuria. I feel something for Lemuria that is like memory.


James Churchward (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent))
Mu, as a lost Pacific Ocean continent, was later popularised by James Churchward (1851–1936) in a series of books, beginning with Lost Continent of Mu, the Motherland of Man (1926),[2] re-edited later as The Lost Continent Mu (1931).[8] Other popular books in the series are The Children of Mu (1931), and The Sacred Symbols of Mu (1933).

Churchward claimed that "more than fifty years ago," while he was a soldier in India, he befriended a high-ranking temple priest who showed him a set of ancient "sunburnt" clay tablets, supposedly in a long lost "Naga-Maya language" which only two other people in India could read. Having mastered the language himself, Churchward found out that they originated from "the place where [man] first appeared—Mu." The 1931 edition states that “all matter of science in this work are based on translations of two sets of ancient tablets:” the clay tables he read in India, and a collection of 2,500 stone tablets that had been uncovered by William Niven in Mexico.[8]:7

Churchward gave a vivid description of Mu as the home of an advanced civilization, the Naacal, which flourished between 50,000 and 12,000 years ago, was dominated by a “white race,"[8]:48 and was "superior in many respects to our own"[8]:17 At the time of its demise, about 12,000 years ago, Mu had 64,000,000 inhabitants and many large cities, and colonies on the other continents.

Churchward claimed that the landmass of Mu was located in the Pacific Ocean, and stretched east–west from the Marianas to Easter Island, and north–south from Hawaii to Mangaia. He claimed that according to the creation myth he read in the Indian tablets, Mu had been lifted above sea level by the expansion of underground volcanic gases. Eventually Mu “was completely obliterated in almost a single night”:[8]:44 after a series of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, "the broken land fell into that great abyss of fire" and was covered by "fifty millions of square miles of water."[8]:50

Churchward claimed that Mu was the common origin of the great civilizations of Egypt, Greece, Central America, India, Burma and others, including Easter Island, and was in particular the source of ancient megalithic architecture. As evidence for his claims, he pointed to symbols from throughout the world, in which he saw common themes of birds, the relation of the Earth and the sky, and especially the Sun. Churchward claims that the king of Mu was named Ra and he relates this to the Egyptian god of the sun, Ra, and the Rapanui word for Sun, ra’a, which he incorrectly spells "raa."[8]:48 He claimed to have found symbols of the Sun in "Egypt, Babylonia, Peru and all ancient lands and countries – it was a universal symbol."[8]:138

Churchward attributed all megalithic art in Polynesia to the people of Mu. He claimed that symbols of the sun are found “depicted on stones of Polynesian ruins,” such as the stone hats (pukao) on top of the giant moai statues of Easter Island. Citing W.J. Johnson, Churchward describes the cylindrical hats as "spheres" that "seem to show red in the distance”, and asserts that they “represent the Sun as Ra.”[8]:138 He also incorrectly claimed that some of them are made of "red sandstone"[8]:89 which does not exist on the island. The platforms on which the statues rest (ahu) are described by Churchward as being “platform-like accumulations of cut and dressed stone,” which were supposedly left in their current positions “awaiting shipment to some other part of the continent for the building of temples and palaces.”[8]:89 He also cites the pillars “erected by the Māori of New Zealand” as an example of this lost civilization’s handiwork.[8]:158 In Churchward's view, the present-day Polynesians are not descendants of the dominant members of the lost civilization of Mu, responsible for these great works, but are instead descendants of survivors of the cataclysm that adopted “the first cannibalism and savagery” in the world.[8]:54

and from Rudolph Steiner The Submerged Continents of Atlantis and Lemuria (http://wn.rsarchive.org/Books/GA011/English/TPS1911/GA011_c04.html)


This Root-Race as a whole had not yet developed memory. Men were able, it is true, to form conceptions of things and events; but these conceptions did not remain in the memory, and in consequence men did not possess language in its true sense. What they could produce in this connection were rather natural sounds which expressed their sensations of pleasure, joy, pain, and so on, but which did not designate external things. Their mental conceptions, however, had quite a different power from those of later men.

They influenced their surroundings by means of this power. Other men, animals, plants, and even inanimate objects could feel this action and were worked upon by mere mind-images. Thus the Lemurian could communicate with his fellow-men without the need of speech. This intercourse consisted in a kind of “thought-reading.” The power of his conceptions was derived by the Lemurian immediately from the things that surrounded him. It flowed on him from the power of growth in plants, from the vital energy in animals.

Thus did he understand plants and animals in their inner working and life. Indeed, he thus understood even the physical and chemical forces of inanimate things. In building anything, he did not need first to calculate the bearing-capacity of a trunk or the weight of a block of stone: he could see how much the trunk could bear, how the block would settle through its weight. The Lemurian built in this way without any art of engineering, but with the certainty of a kind of instinct working out as imagination. And withal he had his body under great control. If necessary he could steel his arm through a mere effort of will.

Consequently he could, for instance, raise enormous burdens. Just as the Atlantean disposed of the vital energy, so the Lemurian was master of his will. He was — let not the expression be misunderstood — a born magician in all spheres of the lower human activities.

The main object, too, of the Lemurians was to develop the will and the power of conception. This was the ruling motive in the education of children. Boys were hardened in the most energetic manner. They had to learn to face dangers, to overcome pain, to perform daring deeds. Those who could not bear tortures or face dangers were not considered useful members of society, but were allowed to perish in the course of their hardships.

What the Âkâshic Records show in regard to this method of rearing children surpasses all that present-day man can picture to himself in his wildest fancy. The endurance of heat up to scorching point, and the piercing of the body with sharp points, were quite common occurrences. —

The training of girls was different. It is true that hardening was also their lot, but the chief aim lay here in the development of a powerful imagination. For instance, girls were exposed to a storm that they might feel its terrible beauty with calmness; they had to witness fights between men fearlessly, feeling only admiration for the display of strength and prowess. A disposition to dreaming, to revelling in fancy, was in this way fostered in girls; but this disposition was exceptionally prized, and in the absence of memory there was no chance of its degeneration.

These dreamy or imaginative conceptions lasted only while there was an external occasion for them. So far, then, they were well equipped for external things. They did not lose themselves in the fathomless. It was the imaginative and visionary in Nature herself that sank deep into the soul of woman.

Until the end of their era the Lemurians had no dwellings in our sense of the word. They lived in natural shelters; for instance, in caves which they modified according to their needs. At a later period they built such caves in the earth; and then they developed great skill in such building. But it must not be thought that they did not also erect artificial buildings, although these did not serve as dwellings.

They originated in the earlier period from the need of giving to the things of nature a form moulded by man. Hills were remoulded so that man might find pleasure and gratification in their form. For the same reason stones were joined together, and this was done also with the aim of making them serve some useful purpose.

The places where children were hardened were surrounded by walls of this kind. But ever grander and more ingenious, toward the end of this epoch, became the structures devoted to the worship of “divine Wisdom and divine Art.” These edifices were in every respect different from what served, at a later stage, as temples, for they were also places of instruction and scientific study. Whoever was found fit was permitted to become initiated into the science of universal laws and the application of these laws.

Whereas the Lemurian was a born magician, this talent for art and insight was here cultivated. Only those could be admitted who, through every process of hardening, had become invincible in the highest degree. That which transpired in these institutions remained the most profound secret to all but the few. Here the knowledge and mastery of natural forces was learnt by immediate perception, but this cognisance was a kind of transformation of the natural forces into the power of will in man. Thereby he could himself achieve what Nature achieves.

What mankind accomplished later by means of reflection or combination was then a kind of instinctive activity. Of course, in this connection, the word “instinct” must not be used in the sense in which it is usually applied to the animal world, for the achievements of the Lemurians rank immeasurably higher than all that the animal world can produce instinctively. They far surpassed all that mankind, through memory, intellect, and imagination, has since acquired in arts and sciences.

To make this more clearly understood one might call these teaching-places “High-schools of the powers of will and of the clairvoyant power of forming conceptions.” From them proceeded such men as became in every respect rulers of the others. It is difficult to-day to give in words a correct conception of all these conditions, for everything on earth has since undergone a change. Nature herself and all human life were different then; and consequently human labour and the relation of man to man were quite otherwise than what is customary now.


This just appeared in pandora's radio box so placing it here ..... Lemurian influenced?


The Stable Song by Gregory Alan Isakovison

Remember when our songs were just like prayer
Like gospel hymns that you called in the air
Come down, come down sweet reverence
Unto my simple house and ring... and ring

Ring like silver, ring like gold
Ring out those ghosts on the Ohio
Ring like clear day wedding bells
Were we the belly of the beast, or the sword that fell?
We'll never tell

Come to me, clear and cold
On some sea
Watch the world spinning waves
Like that machine

Now I've been crazy, couldn't you tell?
I threw stones at the stars, but the whole sky fell
Now I'm covered up in straw, belly up on the table
Well I drank and sang, and I passed in the stable

That tall grass grows high and brown
Well I dragged you straight in the muddy ground
And you sent me back to where I roam
Well I cursed and I cried, but now I know
Now I know

And I ran back to that hollow again
The moon was just a sliver back then
And I ached for my heart like some tin man
When it came, oh it beat and it boiled and it rang
Oh, it's ringing

Ring like crazy, ring like hell
Turn me back into that wild haired gale
Ring like silver, ring like gold
Turn these diamonds straight back into coal
Turn these diamonds straight back into coal


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Elen
19th December 2015, 10:57
Well I think they do agree that there have been ancient civilizations here and possibly many of them throughout the millennium >>>what happened is the question now and a debate would be awesome!!

I agree with you Sandy, we could very easily get lost in details at this stage. The big picture looks very much the same, seen from different angles. Slowly and steadily, I’m picking up pieces of the puzzle. The final brainstorm will be really interesting, won’t it? :D

Elen

Aianawa
21st December 2015, 02:32
Indeed Elen, much thanks to you for gifting me the best thread to read, download and puzzle piece, this year.

Elen
21st December 2015, 10:53
Sylvie is showing the targets for the remote viewing experiment, and she’s also going to make another video on the results later. Although not as good as she had hoped, it was definitely so good that she recons it can be used as a tool in the future.

Elen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vNuAt9ejLk

Elen
28th December 2015, 14:06
Sylvie is back with documentary # 43. There are more details on the underwater ruins around the world and she’s pointing out the inability of Academia to reveal their findings, and wondering why Google Earth is smudging out details that were there in earlier versions.

I don’t think she is very interested in the Flat Earth theory either. :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THgQS9VVj-k

Novusod
1st January 2016, 12:44
New video for the new year.

Hyperborea in North America: Ancient Coast Lines and lost history.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CfWTVpIW3Q

Maggie
2nd January 2016, 02:05
Elen and others have been posting Sylvie's videos...I hope it's OK to place others...this researcher has some interesting comparisons and I like the visuals he uses IMO....

hXglIVVpKXM?list=PLoq6712ZQs6ZplX_CephFiFaat1SuWDC 2

Frances
3rd January 2016, 23:45
Another good video. Hyperborea in North America: Ancient Coast Lines and lost history.
Good to see Novusod's research in there.
Frances.

bsbray
4th January 2016, 00:57
Someone posted a link to the "Ancient American Canals" website somewhere on here, either in this thread or in Outlander's "Data Libraries" thread. I think the original website went down, but the information is still available through the Internet Archive and elsewhere. This website has some of the info: http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/americacanals.htm

They also provide this image:

http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/Images/sealevelrise2.png

There is a lot of information packed into this image. This is from "Fleming et al. 1998, Fleming 2000, & Milne et al. 2005."

Each color dot represents a different location, as labeled. The "X" axis represent time, going back thousands of years, while the "Y" axis represents sea levels. The black line looks like the plotted average based on the data from the individual locations that are color-coded.

Where the colored dots deviate significantly from the black line, that could indicate at least a couple of different things. For me, the first thing it brings to mind is how much of this type of science is built upon assumptions that could be easily overturned, as far as dating things, particularly via carbon dating. But also it could indicate that along with great changes in sea level, there may have been massive geological shifts in the past few thousand years, with some areas being abruptly raised high above sea level, and other areas sunk beneath the waves, independent of the rising sea levels themselves.

The more accurately the above chart conforms to reality, the more it means that anyone living in these areas would have been subject to massive and catastrophic seismic upheavals, aside from the rising sea levels.

This graph is also used as a reference to date sites based on their depth underwater. Unfortunately we don't have the same convenience for ancient sites on land.

Elen
5th January 2016, 13:24
Here is the result of the Remote viewing experiment on the canals in Florida. This could be a real confirmation as to how the disaster happened to the Earth and a giving validity to Sylvie’s Survivor Series.

Remote Viewing the Ancient Florida Canals and Ports of a Mysterious Ancient Civilisation with Arvari remote viewer (probablefuture.com) with 15 years experience and Mark (loononahill.com), and a couple of others mentioned in the video.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eosQBguq80Y

Elen

EL_O_EL
5th January 2016, 17:10
"Remote Viewing the Ancient Florida Canals and Ports of a Mysterious Civilisation"
Fantastic Video Ellen, Thanks! I've flown over those waterways many times, and family lives practically on one, and (as ridiculous as it seems) just kinda always had an awareness that they were deliberately built. Very Intriguing! Thank You!

Elen
5th January 2016, 17:35
"Remote Viewing the Ancient Florida Canals and Ports of a Mysterious Civilisation"
Fantastic Video Ellen, Thanks! I've flown over those waterways many times, and family lives practically on one, and (as ridiculous as it seems) just kinda always had an awareness that they were deliberately built. Very Intriguing! Thank You!

I appreciate your feedback with your keen observation, EL_O_EL.

Elen
5th January 2016, 20:12
Here Sylvie is musing if there indeed are survivors of Atlantis and showing that there are people living in seclusion in Russia. She doesn't believe that Vladimir Megre's books are more than stories, but there are people there like her, etc. etc.

Elen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJLa6gKAmjs

Aianawa
8th January 2016, 09:12
Here Sylvie is musing if there indeed are survivors of Atlantis and showing that there are people living in seclusion in Russia. She doesn't believe that Vladimir Megre's books are more than stories, but there are people there like her, etc. etc.

Elen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJLa6gKAmjs

The Ringing Ceders, just stories, interesting imo indeed, mind you in my experience not just logical people sometimes have just stories feelings but also some very goddess types, which surprised me at the time, definitely an each to their own experience.

Elen
8th January 2016, 20:34
I agree with you Aianawa, just as you said

Elen
9th January 2016, 10:57
Any Flat Earthers here? Duck! :lol: To me it defies all logic, based on my own observations, and I have looked into it as well. I.e. I don't believe in a flat Earth, either.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cZH4LUHRec

Elen

Maggie
10th January 2016, 07:06
Any Flat Earthers here? Duck! :lol: To me it defies all logic, based on my own observations, and I have looked into it as well. I.e. I don't believe in a flat Earth, either.

Elen

Sylvie is allowing comments and someone said EXACTLY what I have been thinking "Just tell these idiots two words.... rain drops. All mass forms a sphere naturally." I am not sure why we didn't though hehe.

I know someone who actually has fallen off the edge of the flat earth theory (hehe). It is impossible to talk to him about it and I am flummoxed. There is someone who's videos I used to watch who has become a flat earther (Santos Bonachi). This is THE strangest obsession I have ever seen.

Elen
10th January 2016, 10:37
This is Sylvie’s 3rd interview so far. I believe there will be many more. And she says this is a good start for the ones that have just started looking into her work. At the end it was suggested an interview with Anatoly Fomenko about the new Chronology, which would be really interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwNn2o6oAS0

She has abbreviated this interview as well (Not much), so the full version is here.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIC142ESUCPCNLCJUx268Rg

Elen

bsbray
13th January 2016, 21:59
I didn't want to derail the Data Libraries (http://jandeane81.com/threads/6149-Data-Libraries/page7) thread so I'm posting this here, since it relates to Fomenko and thereby Sylvie's work. :)


The New York Public Library

that's a bumper but most text is not in english but spanish or portuguese
the world rulers in old centuries.

I was reading a copy of Josephus' history of the Jewish Wars from 1492, which probably makes it amongst the oldest copies remaining in existence. It's in a beautiful form of archaic French that has eſtoit in place of modern était ("was"), and a lot of other variations more similar to Latin, but also little medieval shorthand symbols and markings to indicate abbreviated words. A line over a vowel indicates a removed 'n' or 'm', as in dōt representing dont.


Check this out:

http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47e3-bca3-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99

It's a text that's supposed to be about a war in Judea around 164 BC, but it shows knights in medieval armor and a cannon.

The conventional explanation is either that the artist was ignorant or else catering to the readership of his time, but Fomenko's position on these types of issues is that no, the artwork is correct for the period of the content and the attributed chronology is what is wrong and has been misconstrued and covered up since the 1500's. The book above dates to 1492. On some of these old documents hosted by the NYPL, when you zoom in you can see the detail of the leather skin the pages are made of. :love: :D :love:

Frances
14th January 2016, 14:55
Interview for thehighersidechats.com - Ancient History and the Psychedelic Origins of Religions

I enjoyed this interview with Sylvie, I like the way her research is evolving and gaining recognition.
I know there is more new & interesting information to come from Sylvie and I am enjoying the journey.
Frances.

Elen
15th January 2016, 09:43
More Remote Viewing results. This time it’s from Mount Nemrut in Turkey and it was done by ARVARI, the remote viewer with a lot of experience.

She talks about the importance of Astrological constellations as an accurate way of dating, because calendars can change the Chronology from time to time. Interesting to see the results from this particular remote viewing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02rF1mDPS0A

Elen

Elen
15th January 2016, 09:53
I didn't want to derail the Data Libraries (http://jandeane81.com/threads/6149-Data-Libraries/page7) thread so I'm posting this here, since it relates to Fomenko and thereby Sylvie's work. :)



I was reading a copy of Josephus' history of the Jewish Wars from 1492, which probably makes it amongst the oldest copies remaining in existence. It's in a beautiful form of archaic French that has eſtoit in place of modern était ("was"), and a lot of other variations more similar to Latin, but also little medieval shorthand symbols and markings to indicate abbreviated words. A line over a vowel indicates a removed 'n' or 'm', as in dōt representing dont.


Check this out:

http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47e3-bca3-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99

It's a text that's supposed to be about a war in Judea around 164 BC, but it shows knights in medieval armor and a cannon.

The conventional explanation is either that the artist was ignorant or else catering to the readership of his time, but Fomenko's position on these types of issues is that no, the artwork is correct for the period of the content and the attributed chronology is what is wrong and has been misconstrued and covered up since the 1500's. The book above dates to 1492. On some of these old documents hosted by the NYPL, when you zoom in you can see the detail of the leather skin the pages are made of. :love: :D :love:

Thanks bsbray, I was playing with this web-site myself. Found a lot of old maps, and it has a search engine helping in looking things up. I agree with you, it belongs on this thread.

Elen

Elen
18th January 2016, 12:23
Another Remote Viewing result from NewEarth. To me it is really interesting that Tungsten isn't anything new and that it's been used a very long time ago, although the claim is that Tungsten was discovered by Juan José and Fausto Elhuyar, Spanish chemists and brothers, in 1783. So that means rediscovered, in other words.

The ancient Australian man looking at us thorough the curtains of time... I think this is magical. The Kariong(NSW) site description is, I think, also interesting. The rest is more of a simple report on the rest of remote viewing targets, which unfortunately did not get covered well due to lack of sufficient number of qualified remote viewers...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N4z0kShnxA

Elen

Elen
24th January 2016, 09:56
More Polygonal building styles in Montenegro, showing the widespread knowledge which has been forgotten in recent times. Sylvie is going into the details of shapes and sizes of the stones used, and it is said that soldiers built it to stop riots. You be the judge…:welcoming:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5AmcpVvb7Q

Elen

sandy
25th January 2016, 06:28
HAHAHAHAHA she is funny and her humour hits the nail on the head every time!! thks Elen :)

Dreamtimer
25th January 2016, 13:33
Sandy, so true. Those quackademics!:hilarious::ttr::ha:

Elen
28th January 2016, 13:22
I’ll put this in the Atlantis thread, because it really runs well in with the rest. Thomas Sheridan is also interested in this topic about Megaliths and ancient buildings that will not fit in with mainstream academia. Non of us will be right the first time around, but we’re digging and picking and thinking our way through, just keep that in mind while you keep your sanity in place. OK?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSkjNxHsr-M&list=TLQ8XSsImBYHYyODAxMjAxNg

Here are the links that he supplied:

Stunning Insights and Revelations from Malta and Gozo

SIGN UP FOR FREE SCREENING OF MEGALITHIC TV SPECIAL
http://www.jamesswagger.com/

THE AVEBURY EXPERIENCE AND ESOTERIC COLLEGE
http://www.theaveburyexperience.co.uk/

VIRTUAL VISIT TO THE HYPOGEUM
http://heritagemalta.org/museums-site...

Novusod
29th January 2016, 03:00
There is no single location for Atlantis. It covered the whole planet from Canada to South America and from Northern Europe to Australia and everywhere in between.

Check out Sylvie's new video on Sodom and Gomorrah.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVSD0ZdAyA0

Elen
29th January 2016, 06:56
Novusod forgot to mention this important message from Sylvie:

Could somebody help me with advice on movie making? imovie gets worse with every new update. i spent most of my time struggling with it instead of making videos. i did install the final cut pro trial, but could not find basic features i was hoping it will have, although the complex ones are very easy to find, use and understand.

just wasted few hours with filmora/ it has many nice features, but it lacks basic ones and is basically useless for me.

downloaded videopad, but again basic features cant be found or are difficult to use.

could you advise?

Elen
13th February 2016, 10:10
I've spent some time pondering about the latest videos from Sylvie as they deal with prophecies and predictions. Personally, I don't follow predictions nor prophecy, but I've decided to post them anyway and I leave it up to you to make up your own mind as to the validity of such things. I am not here to judge you, it or her. To me it's all about the message and the information.

Initially the message about Bruno Gröning was really interesting and revealing to me. A man who was genuinely in contact with higher forces in order to heal people.

At the bottom of this post, I'll give the links that she suggests as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ASaZvVqb8


Bruno Gröning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s95tF...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibG1P...öning-Freundeskreis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWEgc...öning-Freundeskreis

slava (resource not available in english, please use online translation tool)
http://slava-sevrukova.com/biography/

Seth by Jane Roberts
http://shemeam.com/pdf/Jane_Roberts-T...

The Prophecies of
Mitar Tarabich


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/pro...
http://orthodoxengland.org.uk/tarabic...


Siener van Rensburg

http://powerpointparadise.com/endworl...
http://endtimesforecaster.blogspot.co...
http://ozziesaffa.blogspot.co.at/2014...
http://prophecyinthemaking.blogspot.c...


Journey Of Souls by Michael Newton http://bazaarmodel.net/ftp/Project-C/...

Many Lives, Many Masters
Dr. Brian I. Weiss
http://mindguruindia.com/wp-content/u...

only love is real
http://ir.nmu.org.ua/bitstream/handle...


Seen ALL episodes and still questions are left in your mind?
https://plus.google.com/1167875562131...

Elen

Elen
13th February 2016, 12:20
A short video on the prophecies of Egypt, The Lament of Hermes. Predicting the fall of Egypt and it's wisdom.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0OcKIr4EhA


Elen

Elen
22nd February 2016, 10:36
Personally, I think it is too early to conclude at this stage, but I have a lot of respect for Sylvie and what she has uncovered in this thread, so I will post it regardless of what I feel. We all have to think for ourselves regardless of anybody else anyway.

Elen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7Ao68g0Bw

Published on Feb 20, 2016
IF IT DOES NOT PLAY IN YOUR COUNTRY PLEASE TRY HERE
https://vid.me/1tgA

This episode is mostly about the Law of Karma and current politics are taken as an example (esp. the European situation). I believe that this is the most important part of the knowledge that was stolen from us and therefore a very relevant to the topic of the Survivors these.

PLEASE DO WATCH THE FULL EPISODE AND READ THE TEXT BELOW POSTING COMMENTS. COMMENTS THAT DISCUSS THINGS OTHER THAN THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED WILL BE REMOVED. it is ok not to agree with my opinions (please kindly do mention the reason for that in your comment!), but comments discussing other people's opinions will be unfortunately removed, as I believe that the comments section should be connected with the video.

The biggest criminals!
PharmaDeathClock.com

music Kevin McLeod

The ISS/NASA joke
https://vid.me/fvsZ

The education episode, A MUST SEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEWP...

Robert Monroe, a modern times Pitri Loka Explorer
https://www.monroeinstitute.org

Near Death Experiences And Reincarnation
http://www.brianweiss.com/reading-list/

In regards to the crime wave in Europe, this video is not meant to awaken hate in you towards any group of people (even the worst ones need help, not hate), just on the opposite, the MAIN victims of these crimes are the genuine war refugees (there are such amongst the immigrants)
this crime wave has nothing to do with Islam (Muslim religion is the one the strictest punishments for crimes!), the people who tell you to tolerate these crimes under the flag of “religious” tolerance are simply looking for an excuse to encourage crime. that is why they hide information about the extent of crimes, because if it is revealed more people will figure out that the immigrant exodus has nothing to
do with protecting innocent people, but just the opposite, it organises the expansion of the areas affected by the horrors of bloody crimes.

this crimes information is suppressed the mass media under the excuse that it will cause Islamofobia. but in reality Prophet Mohammad appeared to give laws against crime. so if they really wanted to protect Islam they should be prosecuting the criminals instead of hiding them. actually encouraging crime by hiding it is dis-honouring ALL the religions of goodness (Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, etc) as condemning crimes is of universal value, it is not copyrighted by a single religion. the people who mistakenly connect the crime publicity suppression with Islamofobia, not only consent to tolerating crime, but also help spreading dangerous misconceptions about all religions. those misconception in their turn will perpetuate the bloody crimes in future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4K4o...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot_WK...

Although I do encourage voting, still it will be very hard to find the best option to vote for mainly because most political parties simply lie and even if their manifesto seems OK there is no guarantee that they will do the promised.
Still wherever honest party is not available I urge to vote for the smallest of all evils … which as of my opinion would be those who are likely to take practical steps(this is different from flowery talk) about 1. reducing the war budget,
2. making a country independent of international organisations 3. banning GMO 4. reducing the harmful medicine/vaccines poisoning (humanity is in such a deep ignorance that at this point we can’t
even have the option to vote for return to the natural non-poisonous medicine!!! and we have to be content if no new poisons are being made compulsory… MY GOD!!!)

Jane Roberts
the best place to start is here with "Seth speaks", it is free and in audio format, you can listen to it even while in the bus! https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...


more Jane Roberts
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...
http://www.law-of-attraction-haven.co...
http://www.law-of-attraction-haven.co...

if you still have questions, please read the full post before asking the question
https://plus.google.com/1167875562131...

bsbray
22nd February 2016, 15:35
Now we know why Sylvie said she wasn't going to endorse the Farsight Institute anymore: she doesn't know what to make of their project on the Great Pyramid of Egypt. I can understand that (it ultimately attributes their construction to an extraterrestrial or at least non-human race), but as long as the project's integrity has not been compromised in terms of how their sessions are all either double blind or better than double blind using at least two separate viewers, I find it hard to dismiss it all out of hand.

lcam88
22nd February 2016, 22:00
I would discourage the use of diminutive terms like "quack-ademia". I think Sylvie's efforts are better served on their merits alone, rather than being contaminated by what can only be described as a signal of prejudice or contempt with the mainstream. "Mainstream researchers" or "mainstream historians" makes it perfectly clear that her views are alternative.

While anyone who has been following her survivor series may already agree with her positions regarding mainstream history, I think her purpose for producing the series is better served with a more clear signal being better received by the skeptic or undecided without this aspect of "noise".

Perhaps, if indeed Sylvie would like to express her position with the mainstream, she should do that all at once as she concludes, perhaps saying, "So with all the discrepancies and divergences from hard evidences we have examined, the utter unwillingness by conventional historians to seriously reexamine mainstream history, and the persisting willingness to spread questionable, if not fictional, stories as though it is authentic history is evidence that the institution has become a quack-ademia that can no longer can focus on anything not already mixed into their cool-aid."

Just my 2¢. Still watching.

modwiz
22nd February 2016, 22:14
I love the term quackademics. Hard to criticize someone who has put so much work out for us. Many untalented people are very good critics. Go figure.

bsbray
23rd February 2016, 00:23
For Sylvie's work it's not likely to really hurt anything because not many people in mainstream academia are going to take her work seriously in the first place, and would be insulting it whether or not she used derrogatory terms first. There was some famous politician who once alluded to the fact that when you're dealing with the general masses, appealing to the "lowest denominator" by insulting your opponent is actually more effective than trying to actually use reasonable arguments, because most people just zone out. So as far as stigmatizing public opinion, it's probably more effective, for better or worse. The French Revolution was largely a product of a very large and very offensive body of underground literature, and it was also very effective. There could be a moral debate about that kind of low-blow type of thing, but TPTB are already using these kinds of tactics.

If someone were trying to work from within academia to guide it towards new research in these kinds of areas though, they would have to do it very gently, professionally, and probably couched in a lot of technical words so that it would take most people a while before they could initiate their knee-jerk reaction. This actually looks exactly like what is already happening, when you see these papers published in mainstream journals about layers of micro-diamonds in a common strata all around the world from a celestial impact circa ~10,000 BC, or megalithic sites found underwater in places that haven't been above water since around the same time period.

lcam88
23rd February 2016, 05:08
bsbray:

I agree with everything you have said. Except:

I wouldn't say Sylvie is necessarily trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator, even if occupants of that zone may be found watching.

It appears to me that she is making these videos and investing her time to send a message, not just about just how far off the mark conventional historians really are, but to set a record that examines things differently from the ordinary conventions. That is the positive message that is of actual value.

I certainly hope at least some fringe of academia will take a serious look, nobody really likes being insulted.

Personally, I really liked previous episodes she produced because they did not waste much time on labelling quackery in the conventional story-lines, they focused on examination of what actually mattered and asked insightful questions. Anyone willing to watch can plainly see for themselves how the conventional views are weak.

I did indeed lay my only criticism out there; there is no need to add noise to a perfectly good message. To figure it another way modwiz, metaphorically, my point is only: we prefer our poison 100% pure, no saline or whatever else diluting it! Right? :)

I wish I could share one more constructive criticism but I find my state of "untalentedness" to be hindering the prospect.

bsbray
25th February 2016, 06:28
I was going back over a pyramid in France shown at the beginning of this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ3kgJDtz7g

It had coordinates shown so I plugged them in and found this:

http://betterarchitecture.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/287_001.jpg?w=500


It's called "La Pyramide." If it looks like it's very well preserved, it's because it was apparently built in 1976 by Ricardo Bofill, Taller de Architectura, along a highway in France near the Spanish border.

http://betterarchitecture.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/pas_fronterer_la_jonquera_la_clau.jpg?w=500&h=500

http://misfitsarchitecture.com/tag/le-perthus/


I guess it's possible that it was pre-existing and just reworked, but I get the feeling that it's more likely that Sylvie just overlooked the details of it when she included the image in her video above.


However, I have found some legitimate pre-historical pyramid-shaped structures in France:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMZRJ2-NI-o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViuayU-swhk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wHchHT4HMA

Maggie
25th February 2016, 18:55
It's called "La Pyramide." If it looks like it's very well preserved, it's because it was apparently built in 1976 by Ricardo Bofill, Taller de Architectura, along a highway in France near the Spanish border.


I really appreciate the work that Sylvie has done and what others are doing. The ubiquity of pyramids is fascinating!! The ubiquity of the megaliths is fascinating. The cross cultural patterns are compelling. The science is in its infancy. I have a hard time mentally grasping Fomenko's work.

Much must have happened differently than reported. What of this happened recently or more distantly becomes confusing. There are so many tales that seem mythic of explanation of the source, political coopting of the time lines and the "fight" between Religious Creationists and Darwinists for example that is ideologic. The serious investigation is important because the Ubiquity (I love that word) tells one thing certainly...world wide and globally connected civilization of sophisticated knowledge we can learn from now.

Maggie
27th February 2016, 20:10
I found a thread on Above Top Secret before that brings information about techniques used by the ancients for softening stone.

The plant that softens stone. (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread692500/pg1)

The post here 21 Stones Transformed Into Mind-Boggling, Putty-Like Shapes. (http://www.inspiremore.com/21-stones-transformed-into-putty-like-shapes/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=btest)

is about a current artist who uses stone softening in his sculpture. Amazing IMO.


Jose Manuel Castro Lopez, born 1959, is a Galician sculptor from Vilasuso, a village in northwest Spain. He spent five years studying at the School of Canterios, where he learned the art of stone carving.

The Spanish sculptor has an almost magical way of kneading his quarry into shape, “In his hands, the stone changes, its nature is altered and the hardness of the material becomes malleable, flexible, liquid.”



Look familiar to the melted stone of megaliths??

http://static.inspiremore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/24070112/zz.jpg

http://static.inspiremore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/24064609/201.jpg

http://static.inspiremore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/24064552/153.jpg

http://static.inspiremore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/24064603/18.png

http://static.inspiremore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/24064519/115.jpg

I don't find his technique anywhere related. This could be metaphor or fact but he says:


López achieves this magical effort, he says, “with technical, ingenuity and work. Day by day, you’re discovering things and you open possibilities. This happens to all of us in our work. This is carved. I never use glue.” López doesn’t see rocks in the same way that other people do. Inspired by the mythology of his native Galician culture, he believes that stones are spirits of the land and, as an artist, it is his role to to conjure them: “My relationship with the stone is not physical, but magical. It recognizes me, it obeys me… we understand each other. My stones are not lifeless. They manifest themselves.”José Manuel Castro López’s Amazing Malleable Stone Sculptures (http://hifructose.com/2016/02/11/jose-manuel-castro-lopezs-amazing-malleable-stone-sculptures/)

Dreamtimer
27th February 2016, 22:20
You just blew my mind, Maggie. It's like stone putty... The sculptures are amazing and a little creepy. :belief:

bsbray
28th February 2016, 04:48
I'd love to see somebody show how he did that. :confused:


Statues are something else I'd like to learn above, specifically how ancient cultures made metal statues.

This is a bronze statue that was thought to be Etruscan, from around the 4th or 5th century BC, but then dating techniques suggested to be from around the 11th or 12th centuries AD, about 1500 years later (pretty big screw up eh?):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/She-wolf_suckles_Romulus_and_Remus.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitoline_Wolf


And then this is still said to be Etruscan from around 400 BC, again in bronze:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/Chimera_d%27arezzo%2C_fi%2C_04.JPG/800px-Chimera_d%27arezzo%2C_fi%2C_04.JPG


I don't know if anyone ever carbon dated the second one, but it would be very interesting to see what the results would be. It's dated to 400 BC because if you look at the front right leg, there is an inscription on it in the Etruscan language, which died out not long after the Romans took over their territory (the Romans were originally under the king of Etruria and claim descent and a lot of cultural influences, like their alphabet and togas, from the Etruscans, who they also say came from Troy after the Trojan War). So if carbon dating showed a significantly different date as it did for the statue above, historians and archaeologists would have some serious problems to work out, but they'd probably just call the dating "erroneous" like they usually do when the data doesn't fit the theories.

Elen
28th February 2016, 11:54
I found a thread on Above Top Secret before that brings information about techniques used by the ancients for softening stone.

The plant that softens stone. (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread692500/pg1)

The post here 21 Stones Transformed Into Mind-Boggling, Putty-Like Shapes. (http://www.inspiremore.com/21-stones-transformed-into-putty-like-shapes/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=btest)

is about a current artist who uses stone softening in his sculpture. Amazing IMO.



Look familiar to the melted stone of megaliths??

http://static.inspiremore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/24070112/zz.jpg

http://static.inspiremore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/24064609/201.jpg

http://static.inspiremore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/24064552/153.jpg

http://static.inspiremore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/24064603/18.png

http://static.inspiremore.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/24064519/115.jpg

I don't find his technique anywhere related. This could be metaphor or fact but he says:

Yes Maggie, it really does look like the art of softening stone is still around. I really appreciate your find. WHAT A FIND IT IS! Thanks a lot because now we have a great lead on this. Imagine, the birds knew how to do it too...

Elen

Maggie
2nd March 2016, 06:07
Gobekli Tepe, Noah’s Ark & Lost Atlantis
February 22, 2016 by Graham Hancock. (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/02/22/gobekli-tepe-noahs-ark-lost-atlantis/)

podcast from the article
G & Coletti
Ep.1 Graham Hancock - Magicians of The Gods

https://soundcloud.com/gandcoletti/ghancock1



In this exclusive extract from his new book Magicians of the Gods (the sequel to Fingerprints of the Gods), Graham Hancock investigates.

The Biblical story of the Deluge can be summarised as follows:

A life-destroying global flood, sent by God to punish human wickedness.[i]
A man (Noah) selected by God and given advance warning of the coming cataclysm so that he can build a survival ship (the Ark).[ii]
The preservation in the Ark of the seeds, or breeding pairs, of all forms of life, with a particular emphasis on human life (Noah and his wife together with their sons and their wives) and animal life (‘of fowls after their kind and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive’).[iii]
The Ark rides out the flood until the waters subside.[iv]
The Ark comes to rest ‘on the mountains of Ararat.’[v]
When the waters have ‘dried up from the earth’ God instructs Noah to leave the Ark with his family and to ‘bring out every kind of living creature that is with you—the birds, the animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground—so they can multiply on the earth and be fruitful and increase in number on it.’[vi]
Noah builds an altar on which he sacrifices some of the animals and birds that he has just saved from the flood. The smell of the burnt offerings is pleasing to God.[vii]
The surviving humans and animals go forth and multiply ‘and fill the earth’ as they have been commanded.[viii]

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‘The past is never dead. It’s not even past.’[xix]

....... there are many ways in which the story of Noah’s Ark bearing the survivors of a terrible global flood – and of a world made anew after a cataclysm – is still a living force in the region of Gobekli Tepe where the great stone circles began to be put in place in 9600 BC. This date, scientists agree, marks the end of the Ice Age. As Professor Klaus Schmidt, the discoverer of Gobekli Tepe, asked me rhetorically when I interviewed him at the site in 2013:

How likely is it to be an accident that the monumental phase at Gobekli Tepe starts in exactly 9600 BC when the climate of the whole world has taken a sudden turn for the better and there’s an explosion in nature and in possibilities?
There’s something else about that date too. A global flood, nominated by geologists as “Meltwater Pulse 1 B,” occurred around 9600 BC as the remnant ice caps in North America and northern Europe collapsed simultaneously amidst worldwide global warming. Cesare Emiliani, Professor in the Department of Geological Sciences at the University of Miami, carried out isotopic analysis of deep-sea sediments[xx] that produced striking evidence of cataclysmic global flooding ‘between 12,000 and 11,000 years ago.’[xxi]

So although the floods at the end of the Ice Age could never have carried Noah and his Ark thousands of feet above present sea level to the slopes of Mount Ararat, they were indeed global in their extent and would have had devastating consequences for humans living at that time. Mountainous regions such as the Ararat range would have been natural places of refuge – natural places to bring ‘the seeds of all life’ and to start again. Therefore while the Noah story cannot be literally true in every detail we must consider the possibility that it is true in its essence, i.e. that it does record the construction of an ‘Ark,’ in which seeds of useful plants and breeding pairs of animals were perhaps preserved by people who already knew agriculture and who possessed architectural skills, who survived the terminal Ice Age floods, who migrated to the lands between Mount Ararat and Gobekli Tepe and who subsequently disseminated agricultural and architectural knowledge to the indigenous hunter-gatherers of that region.

The sudden and indeed completely unprecedented appearance of giant stone circles at Gobekli Tepe, which surely could only have been conceived and implemented by people with extensive prior experience of megalithic architecture, and the simultaneous ‘invention’ of agriculture in the exact same locale, are, in my view, highly suggestive of this possibility. Then, too, there is the haunting sense that Gobekli Tepe itself constitutes a kind of ‘Ark’ frozen and memorialized in stone, for the iconography of its reliefs and sculptures is not only all about animals but also – in a number of intriguing images that show women with exposed genitalia[xxii] and males with erect penises[xxiii] – about human fertility. Imagery of the latter sort, including a figure that Karl Luckert, Professor of the History of Religions at Missouri State University, interprets as a classic ‘Earth Mother,’[xxiv] call to mind God’s command to Moses and his family to ‘be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth.’[xxv] Meanwhile, where else but in Noah’s Ark can we find a menagerie as eclectic as the one portrayed on the megaliths of Gobekli Tepe – a menagerie that includes spiders, scorpions and snakes (‘every creeping thing of the earth’), birds and cattle (‘fowls after their kind, and cattle after their kind’), and foxes, felines, goats, sheep, gazelles, boars, bears, etc, etc (in short – as Genesis 6: 20 has it, ‘every kind of animal and every kind of creature’)? Likewise we read in the Bible that Noah sacrificed some of the animals and birds that he had just saved from the flood as an offering to God. At Gobekli Tepe archaeologists have found the butchered bones of many of the animal species depicted on the megalithic pillars.[xxvi]

A final touch. With the date of its foundation set at 9600 BC (‘exactly 9600 BC as Klaus Schmidt was at pains to point out to me), Gobekli Tepe also invites us to reopen the cold case of Atlantis which archaeologists have long ridiculed, pouring scorn and derision on anyone daring to utter the much reviled ‘A’ word. It is a fact, however, that the Greek philosopher Plato, whose dialogues Timaeus and Critias contain the earliest surviving mention of the fabled sunken kingdom, gives us a very definite date for the the deluge that submerged Atlantis. Plato’s source for the story was an oral tradition that had been passed down in his family line from his ancestor, the Greek lawmaker Solon (638 BC to 558 BC). Solon visited Egypt around the year 600 BC where priests at the Temple of Neith at Sais in the Delta told him the story of Atlantis, and informed him that its destruction had occurred “nine thousand years ago.”[xxvii]

Needless to say, nine thousand years before 600 BC is “exactly 9600 BC”!

The Greeks could not have known of Gobekli Tepe (let alone that it was mysteriously founded at the very moment Atlantis was said to have died). Moreover they had no access to the Greenland ice cores dating the end of the Ice Age to 9620 BC, just twenty years before the foundation of Gobekli Tepe, nor to modern scientific knowledge about the rapidly rising sea levels that occurred in this period, notably Meltwater Pulse 1 B. With all this in mind, therefore, the date Plato gives can no longer be dismissed as just something he “made up” (as archaeologists like to claim) but deserves to be considered seriously as a truthful report that has the power to sweep back the veils that hide our past.

scibuster
2nd March 2016, 12:12
This stone carving give me the same kick as seeing an Ufo
(which until now not occured.)

Looks like YouTube at 1.April.

seeing is one thing but touching is better.
Is it painted (Stone) like a painted skirt on a top Modell ?

Dreamtimer
2nd March 2016, 17:35
I visited the two links. The one about the plant that softens stone takes you to an ATS posting which references Col. Fawcett and his Journey to the Lost City of Z. The book can be found on Amazon. If the citations are accurate then this man relates some experiences with stone softening and metal erosion due this plant.

Western society in general is not big on recognizing the power of plants unless it can be capitalized on.

Dreamtimer
2nd March 2016, 18:22
I followed some links. The artist, Lopez, did a show in October of 2014. There are some art blogs with pictures of his work. He's quoted, "It is not the sculptor who acts, but the wizard, the druid." He also has his own blog.

bsbray
2nd March 2016, 19:34
I followed some links. The artist, Lopez, did a show in October of 2014. There are some art blogs with pictures of his work. He's quoted, "It is not the sculptor who acts, but the wizard, the druid." He also has his own blog.

This guy seems pretty enigmatic. If no one has caught on to how he does it yet, then someone will as soon as he starts getting more attention.

This story of the plant that softens stone has been around for at least a few decades, if not since the time of the Spanish invasion of South America, but trying to get anywhere with it is frustrating. In Robert Charroux's book Le livre du mystérieux inconnu he mentions that there are three different plants that may do this, and that initiates into Middle or South American native religions know these plants and how to use them but protect the knowledge. Whether that's true or not is something that frustrates me to even wonder about. On the one hand, these native people do keep a lot of secrets for obvious reasons. Too many things they hold sacred have been taken from them or exploited by European descendants. Their use of magic mushrooms goes back hundreds, if not thousands of years, but wasn't noticed by Americans until around the 1900's. But on the other hand, this could all just be made up.

Dreamtimer
3rd March 2016, 01:02
Lopez went to art school in Spain for five years according to his resume. It's possible someone brought this knowledge back with them from the New World and it is either being used by someone in the art school, or who was in it, or who knew Lopez and connected with him. If someone had carefully held knowledge like this and didn't want it exploited, giving it to an artist is a good choice. Artists' methods are 'proprietary'.

Now, whether any one of us could find out any details without actually going there and meeting people is doubtful it seems.

Novusod
3rd March 2016, 14:02
This artist Jose Manuel Castro Lopez seems to be 100% legitimate.

http://www.ignant.de/2015/12/01/soft-stone-sculptures-by-jose-manuel-castro-lopez/

His simplest works to me are actually the most incredible. There is no technology in existence that can replicate this. A rock folded in half:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/fa/28/1e/fa281e8d55544b15ee7750d2095467a0.jpg

Elen
7th March 2016, 09:42
The Russian researcher called Andrey Zukow takes a look at not often seen sites in Peru. One is said to be a portal to other dimensions or other planes of existence. People have disappeared and never been found.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqQ1QBea4H4

Maggie
7th March 2016, 22:40
This is really well done and fascinating

NEW ZEALAND
SKELETONS IN THE CUPBOARD
EPISODE ONE — THE RED HEADS
A FILM BY PETER MARSH AND GABI PLUMM

2z6PlYiQSTs

Gabi Plumm and Peter Marsh have contributed a lot to my understanding

Polynesian Pathways (http://users.on.net/~mkfenn/)

Cousins Across The Sea — The Peoples of the Pacific

-HIObJ_gyZ4

Aianawa
9th March 2016, 05:36
Extremely well done, especially the first vid.

Elen
9th March 2016, 09:04
Well done Maggie. Part 2 comes out in July and it will be interesting to see what she comes up with. Interesting with the birds helping in the navigation and the acknowledgement of Thor Heyerdahl who was silenced in speaking out by the establishment.

Aianawa
9th March 2016, 09:19
They are just skimming the surface in most areas, best way to start though, they did these vids so so well, too much truth would have been too much and some of it too difficult to be conclusive.

Maggie
16th March 2016, 06:46
This is interesting IMO.....

Sacred Geometry, Numerology & Extinction Event Cycle Revealed with Randall Carlson

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Elen
16th March 2016, 19:06
Published on Mar 16, 2016

If you want to participate in the history research in your area please view a world wide list of sites of which field report is needed http://www.megaliths.org/browse/categ...
If know of an interesting megalithic or mysterious historic site / artefact please submit it here http://www.megaliths.org/browse

And if you like the NewEarth research approach please help spread the word of the directory of amazing historic sites www.megaliths.org


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6nCkyZ_2qA&feature=em-subs_digest

Elen

Elen
22nd March 2016, 18:25
This is the first part of an interview Sylvie did with the Russian Archaeologist Alexander Koltypin which she has translated for our benefit into English.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGuBMcXEwzI

Maggie
25th March 2016, 07:43
This was really interesting to me.
Petar Petrov's website
http://regresia.weebly.com/

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Elen
26th March 2016, 10:16
This is an improved audio release of the original "Bigger than Baalbek" version. Remember when Sylvie asked for people with good voices?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAFX_5fAEbc&feature=em-uploademail



This is the second video based on the earlier published interview with A.Koltypin in Russian. An absolutely pivotal and essential video for understanding... how little we know about our history and origins... It focuses on the big picture.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdI3lh-au58

Elen

Maggie
26th March 2016, 18:33
......second video based on the earlier published interview with A.Koltypin in Russian. An absolutely pivotal and essential video for understanding... how little we know about our history and origins... It focuses on the big picture.


I watched this video and am scratching my head?
So the question is always what did happen and when did these events occur.
Without trust worthy objective measure, all we can say is something happened sometime.
There could be no end to the arguments.
So, I would appreciate if all the researchers would cooperate.

In some ways despite my appreciation, these videos of Sylvie's without any context of discussion with others is a bit crazy making.

bsbray
27th March 2016, 04:44
I watched this video and am scratching my head?
So the question is always what did happen and when did these events occur.
Without trust worthy objective measure, all we can say is something happened sometime.

That's what makes primary source documents or artifacts so awesome. Unless they're totally forged (as what we see of the Dead Sea Scrolls might be for example -- the Israeli government sat on them for decades before letting the public see, so who knows what the hell we're looking at there) artifacts and primary sources are certainly evidence that something definitely happened, and when you put a lot of them together a picture can begin to emerge clearly by itself.

I don't know how much we can trust carbon dating today since it can apparently produce some wildly-off results sometimes, but I think eventually we will settle on a reliable way to scientifically date archaeological sites and that will help a lot too. But for now yes, there are a lot of things that can be legitimately questioned and all anyone can say is, "well, this is our best guess" or even "this is the widely-accepted belief and you'll just have to accept it."


In some ways despite my appreciation, these videos of Sylvie's without any context of discussion with others is a bit crazy making.

Do you mean how Sylvie and other researchers don't attempt to reconcile their ideas with each other? I haven't got a chance to watch all of the videos above yet. If that's what you're talking about then I totally agree with that. That's actually what I'm trying to do, slowly but surely. First I want to firmly understand what the "mainstream academic position" is on these kinds of issues and then all the different alternative theories and where they come from. Even though it can be extremely frustrated to have two interesting theories that seem to completely contradict each other, it's interesting and a lot of fun to try to unravel them too.

Maggie
27th March 2016, 05:05
"Do you mean how Sylvie and other researchers don't attempt to reconcile their ideas with each other? "


Yes. That is what I mean.
I wonder if geologic weathering and evidence of changes in the shorelines can be used reliably?
I just don't know enough but I am interested in the truth.

I agree that many mainstream assumptions need questioning.
I applaud your intentions and your efforts.
Big sigh.

Maggie
28th March 2016, 17:48
Shirley MacClaine was on the Today show in the US recently and mentioned that she
recalled the Canary Islands are part of the remnant of Atlantis.

I think she is a way shower in that she is unafraid to stand for her own experience. I think Sylvie would like her.
Listen here if you like in this interview from 2011. After 30:05 she is talking of her synthesis of metaphysical information.

W7vx9UJ5I_g?t=30m5s

Novusod
30th March 2016, 02:32
Text in lost language may reveal god or goddess worshipped by Etruscans at ancient temple
http://phys.org/news/2016-03-text-lost-language-reveal-god.html

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/6e/9b/2a/6e9b2ab2eac7f1752a891c9dd8845836.jpg

The rise of the "internet archeologist" is going to make it a lot harder for them sweep evidence such as this down the memory hole.

Elen
14th April 2016, 12:43
This is an interview that The Higher Side Chats did with Koltypin and Sylvie is translating. There will be more of this interview later. Alexander Koltypin is an independent researcher from Russia and what he has to say is informative and interesting!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRZJhcQTEuM&feature=em-uploademail

BabaRa
14th April 2016, 17:34
My understanding, partly from research, partly from what has been given directly to me: See if this resonates with you.

Atlantis ( which was in the area of Azores and Canary Islands and went as far west towards Bermuda & Caribbean) was extreme Yang energy and was destroyed because technology exceeded spirituality - instead of going to the Buddha they went towards the Bomb) Our energy does effect Gaia's energy. We have the ability to blow ourselves up with Nuclear weapons, but we also have the ability to disturb the energy of our planet, which will respond with violent storms, earthquakes, etc.

Lemuria, also know as Mu (which was located in the Pacific - New Zealand area and perhaps Australia) was too Yin and energy. Again instead of using this energy to create peace and harmony, they allowed themselves to become overly embroiled in emotionally discord - think soap opera mentality taken to the extreme, which ultimately destroyed them.

These two energies (extreme Yin and extreme Yang) have reincarnated at this time to complete the task in which they previously failed. What we are seeing being played out is the Yin and the Yang trying to find the proper balance of harmony. Let's hope we succeed.

Elen
14th April 2016, 18:56
BabaRa have you seen all the videos on this thread? Please look through them all before making a judgement on it. There is so much more to this than a short synopsis of Mu and Atlantis. Elen

BabaRa
14th April 2016, 22:50
BabaRa have you seen all the videos on this thread? Please look through them all before making a judgement on it. There is so much more to this than a short synopsis of Mu and Atlantis. Elen

Yes, I have seen many of the videos on this thread, probably not all, and I agree there is much more to this thread. I simply thought what I posted might be helpful to some; however, if you feel it is inappropriate, please feel free to delete. with love, B

Elen
15th April 2016, 12:52
Dear BabaRa, I am NOT upset with you, quite the contrary. Thank you for posting on the thread! :hugs:

Elen

Maggie
16th April 2016, 04:09
BabaRa have you seen all the videos on this thread? Please look through them all before making a judgement on it. There is so much more to this than a short synopsis of Mu and Atlantis. Elen

I was glad to see a new video come up.

tRZJhcQTEuM

Novusod
18th April 2016, 02:15
Dwarf tribes and underground tunnels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSH1gwL9vSU

In the Dwarf video Sylvie mentions an excuse for the small tunnels being the work of children. She thinks it is laughable but it is not wise to underestimate the power of children. In rare cases children are sometimes born with latent super natural powers which they lose when they grow older.

In the video below a young child is frightened by a dog and just flies up into the air without thinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGDCAe6czp8
Children can be born with strange innate abilities but society bullies it out of them. We adults tell them its fantasy, never speak of it, never do it and soon the child unlearns their powers. They convince themselves they never had anything and then lose it.

Interestingly enough this video was taken in the same region of Russia Sylvie often calls "Hyperborea." Could this be a child of the survivors? It seems plausible.

Elen
18th April 2016, 10:37
What is it with Dwarfs and Mining? Our legends and Mythology, especially the Norse Mythology is full of references to the Dwarfs in underground operations which included the knowledge of metallurgy and making of tools and weapons. It is interesting that these folk lores are based on real evidence and not just fantasies. Apparently it has been observed as late as 1920-1930 in certain regions. It is true however that only children could possibly fit into the tunnels…

Aragorn
18th April 2016, 10:46
What is it with Dwarfs and Mining? Our legends and Mythology, especially the Norse Mythology is full of references to the Dwarfs in underground operations which included the knowledge of metallurgy and making of tools and weapons. It is interesting that these folk lores are based on real evidence and not just fantasies. Apparently it has been observed as late as 1920-1930 in certain regions. It is true however that only children could possibly fit into the tunnels…

During the Vietnam war, the US military and its allies also deployed special squadrons made up of short people to enter the underground tunnels of the Viet Cong. And in typical condescending US military verbiage, these soldiers were then referred to as "tunnel rats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_rat)".

Elen
4th May 2016, 07:47
Alexander Koltypin has embarked on Reverse Engineering the Ancient Vibro acoustic Healing Techniques (using what we now call the Schumann resonance frequency).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdZXK4013m4&feature=em-uploademail

ZShawn
4th May 2016, 21:49
Sylvie Ivanova and her fellow researchers have actually done a great deal of work compiling all these anomalies in one location...certainly her videos need to be redone, however what they represent is a lot of good data which can be winnowed from all the dialogue and imagery stream.
The subject alone makes for the necessity of the task.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL8fzWhuOec
Le bouvier (tenor, Jeffrey Thompson and ensemble la rêveuse)
LOU BOUYÈ

Can lou bouyè ben de laoura,
Can lou bouyè ben de laoura,
Planto soun agulhado
A, e, i, ò, u
Planto soun agulhado.

Troubo sa femno al pè del foc,
Troubo sa femno al pè del foc,
Touto déscounsoulado
A, e, i, ò, u
Touto déscounsoulado.

"Se 'n es malaouto digas oc,
Se 'n es malaouto digas oc,
Te faren un poutadzé
A, e, i, ò, u
Te faren un poutadzé.

Amb uno rabo, un caoulét,
Amb uno rabo, un caoulét,
Uno laouzéto magro."
A, e, i, ò, u
Uno laouzéto magro.

"Quan séraï morto rébound mé,
”Quan séraï morto rébound mé.
Al pus priou de la cabo
A, e, i, ò, u
Al pus priou de la cabo.

Méttras mous pès à la parét,
Méttras mous pès a la parét,
Lou cap jous la canèlo
A, e, i, ò, u
Lou cap jous la canèlo.

E lous roumious que passaran,
E lous roumious que passaran,
Prendran d'aïgo ségnado."
A, e, i, ò, u
Prendran d'aïgo ségnado.

E diran: "Cal es mort aïci,
E diran: “Cal es mort aïci,
Es la paouro Joano.
A, e, i, ò, u
Es la paouro Joano.

Que 'n es anado al paradis,
Que 'n es anado al paradis,
Al cèl ambé sas cabros."
A, e, i, ò, u
Al cèl ambé sas cabros.


“The text of this Cathar hymn contains an encoded message, Joana being the medieval cathar church, which has been weakened and finally eliminated in Southern France (Occitanie) through the horrible Albigensian crusade. The spiritual essence of the cathars is still vibrating in caves and waters.”


THE COWHERD

When the cowherd comes home from work,
When the cowherd comes home from work,
He puts up his goad,
A, e, i, o, u
He puts up his goad.

He finds his wife by the hearth,
He finds his wife by the hearth,
She's so sad in her heart
A, e, i, o, u
She's so sad in her heart.

“Please tell me if you aren't well,
Please tell me if you aren't well,
And I'll make you a soup,
A, e, i, o, u
And I'll make you a soup.

With a turnip, a cabbage,
With a turnip, a cabbage,
And a slice of lean bacon,
A, e, i, o, u
And a slice of lean bacon.”

“When I am dead please bury me,
When I am dead please bury me,
Into a deepest cave,
A, e, i, o, u
Into a deepest cave.

You'll put my feet against the wall,
You'll put my feet against the wall,
And my head beneath the source,
A, e, i, o, u
And my head beneath the source.

So all the people who pass by there,
So all the people who pass by there,
Will take the blessed water
A, e, i, o, u
Will take the blessed water

And say, 'The one who lies dead here,
And say, 'The one who lies dead here,
Is poor Joana,
A, e, i, o, u
Is poor Joana

Who has gone to Heaven,
Who has gone to Heaven,
To Heaven with her goats,
A, e, i, o, u
To Heaven with her goats.”

Dreamtimer
6th May 2016, 11:34
Cara St. Louis has done an interview on the Sage of Quay regarding Fomenko and the new Chronology. She's begun a new written work on this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36pYEoDp4_I

Elen
6th May 2016, 19:14
Great find Dreamtimer! It's really enjoyable to see that other people have also understood the message from Sylvie and Fumenko. Thank you for posting it.

Aianawa
7th May 2016, 07:39
Cara St. Louis has done an interview on the Sage of Quay regarding Fomenko and the new Chronology. She's begun a new written work on this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36pYEoDp4_I


Love the way this info backs up lots of Beaumonts book and from what I have heard of from We the Skythian's book, also.
The time changes especially.

Novusod
8th May 2016, 04:31
Cara St. Louis has done an interview on the Sage of Quay regarding Fomenko and the new Chronology. She's begun a new written work on this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36pYEoDp4_I

The common theme between Cara St. Louis and Sylvie is that a man named Joseph Justus Scaliger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Justus_Scaliger) fabricated the entire history of the planet.

Sir Isaac Newton disputed the chronology of Scaliger and wrote a book about it but now sure what the title is.
Johannes Kepler who postulated the heliocentric model of the solar system also challenged Scaliger.

I wish more of these important writings could be pin-pointed.

Hapsburg dynasty got its special privileges from Nero? German dukes attended gladiator matches?

Aianawa
8th May 2016, 04:52
Lol the truth is stranger than fiction ?.

Maggie
8th May 2016, 05:02
The common theme between Cara St. Louis and Sylvie is that a man named Joseph Justus Scaliger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Justus_Scaliger) fabricated the entire history of the planet.

Sir Isaac Newton disputed the chronology of Scaliger and wrote a book about it but now sure what the title is.
Johannes Kepler who postulated the heliocentric model of the solar system also challenged Scaliger.

I wish more of these important writings could be pin-pointed.

Hapsburg dynasty got its special privileges from Nero? German dukes attended gladiator matches?

Cara St. Louis was writing with Harald Kautz-Vella. They coined the "black goo".

Listening to part of the converstaion, I heard that Cara St' Louis has extensively studied Fomenko. She has seemed to take his words whole. I think I understand a little better that for a few centuries, the way events were recorded made the moon seem to be "acting strangely" and this was because events were being twisted around in chronology.

Fomenko used statistics to categorize types of events and found them to be "the same" for different eras as recorded.

I just have no way to know myself about dating.
This is what kind of is frustrating SO.....

I am wondering IF PERHAPS to get all entwined with trying to date events "properly" will not be an exercise in the rabbit hole?

I can just agree that we have been unable to trust what "history" teaches. Unfortunately oral history is hard to find. If the oral histories could be recorded, that would be helpful. It is good to use tools like written documents to keep history.We think in the alt community that a major conspiracy means we must be very distrustful. Who and what can be depended upon?

Then for me, the reason we investigate is something that must have present tense meaning. For instance, we KNOW a major global civilization existed as what people call Atlantis and is evidenced in megalithic architecture. Then there is the Underground civilization. Those who built the cities seem to be very old as the structures are weathered? They had technology and also evidenced the appropriate kinds of life skills like weaving, astronomy, navigation, metalurgy, stone magic......

I think we might emulate these evidences of culture that is useful.
There seems to always be such an emphasis on 'wrongs" and "rights" that obfuscate what might be really powerful to explore.

I wish for the truth to be exposed. I feel a little skeptical even about the new researchers like Cara St. Louis conclusions and even Fomenko?

Maggie
8th May 2016, 16:15
I think I understand a little better that for a few centuries, the way events were recorded made the moon seem to be "acting strangely" and this was because events were being twisted around in chronology.

Just wondering where this information originates. Google is a very difficult search engine for me. I cannot find any citations to follow. Anyone here know? Thanks. Maggie

EDIT:

I did find something here

Historical eclipses and Earth's rotation (http://astrogeo.oxfordjournals.org/content/44/2/2.22.full)

Novusod
9th May 2016, 00:04
Cara St. Louis was writing with Harald Kautz-Vella. They coined the "black goo".

Listening to part of the converstaion, I heard that Cara St' Louis has extensively studied Fomenko. She has seemed to take his words whole. I think I understand a little better that for a few centuries, the way events were recorded made the moon seem to be "acting strangely" and this was because events were being twisted around in chronology.

Fomenko used statistics to categorize types of events and found them to be "the same" for different eras as recorded.

I just have no way to know myself about dating.
This is what kind of is frustrating SO.....

I am wondering IF PERHAPS to get all entwined with trying to date events "properly" will not be an exercise in the rabbit hole?

I can just agree that we have been unable to trust what "history" teaches. Unfortunately oral history is hard to find. If the oral histories could be recorded, that would be helpful. It is good to use tools like written documents to keep history.We think in the alt community that a major conspiracy means we must be very distrustful. Who and what can be depended upon?

Then for me, the reason we investigate is something that must have present tense meaning. For instance, we KNOW a major global civilization existed as what people call Atlantis and is evidenced in megalithic architecture. Then there is the Underground civilization. Those who built the cities seem to be very old as the structures are weathered? They had technology and also evidenced the appropriate kinds of life skills like weaving, astronomy, navigation, metalurgy, stone magic......

I think we might emulate these evidences of culture that is useful.
There seems to always be such an emphasis on 'wrongs" and "rights" that obfuscate what might be really powerful to explore.

I wish for the truth to be exposed. I feel a little skeptical even about the new researchers like Cara St. Louis conclusions and even Fomenko?

I think you misunderstood what I was getting at. I fully support Fomenko's conclusions based on the eclipse data. What I am looking for is cross references with Sir Isaac Newton's and Johannes Kepler's opinion on Scaliger's chronology. Newton and Kepler are still highly respected in their scientific fields. There opinions if correctly cross referenced can be used to destroy Scaliger's credibility.

Pulling things out of the rabbit hole is not an impossible task. In fact it is quite easy if you are smart enough to think outside of the official predetermined box. Here is an example of what can be done to tear down the official history:

Back in episode 30 of the survivor series Sylvie claimed Genghis Khan didn't exist. I was able to find some good cross references that fully backed up this assertion. Turns out everything the official history has to say about Genghis Khan can be traced to a single book written by a single man in the early 20th century. This is all a very recent deception.

In 1915 a man named Baavaday Tsend Gun compiled together a book from fragments of Chinese texts called the "Secret history of the Mongols." It is from this copy that other modern transcriptions were made. This is what our history is based on. One book written by one man. The original Chinese texts are nowhere to be found so it basically a fairy tale. It is not backed up by any hard evidence so it is basically a work of fiction.

The following facts must all be brought into consideration:
- Genghis Khan isn't even a proper name it just means "Great Khan" (Great King)
- There is not a single period coin depicting the name Genghis Khan.
- The coinage used in the Mongol empire referred to plural "Khans."
http://i.imgur.com/vMtuntB.jpg
- There are no statues of Genghis Khan older than 200 years
- There are no direct written accounts by Genghis Khan or his generals
- Genghis Khan constructed no military fortifications and founded no cities
- There are no trade pacts or treaties with Genghis Khan
- No contemporary leader ever references a Genghis Khan
- There are no period maps of Genghis Khan's conquests. (only modern graphical approximations exist)
- Genghis Khan has no real tomb. Only monuments that were constructed centuries later exist.

This is real research based on FACT. Weighing the factual evidence the only logical conclusion is that Genghis Khan is a historical fiction. There is no historical evidence that proves Genghis Khan ever existed. Sylvie was right. Confirmed.

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. If we break down a few of these weak links then whole official history will come crashing down.

Aianawa
9th May 2016, 01:39
It is very exciting, people are or better put, mainstream there is a waking up to, this official history does not make sense, who would manipulate humanity on such a grand scale and why Plus is this still happening, oh wow 9/11 looks suss, end result, we are very powerfullll beings and once were.

bsbray
9th May 2016, 06:32
Just wondering where this information originates. Google is a very difficult search engine for me. I cannot find any citations to follow. Anyone here know? Thanks. Maggie

This is how Fomenko came into this line of research and it's detailed at the beginning of this video, starting around the 3:30 time stamp specifically:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMplPvA7k


It was Robert Russell Newton's work that caused Fomenko to realize that something was terribly screwed up with the traditional chronology.

Here's a Wikipedia bit about Newton:


Newton was Supervisor of the Applied Physics Laboratory at Johns Hopkins University. He was known for his book The Crime of Claudius Ptolemy (1977). In Newton's view, Ptolemy was "the most successful fraud in the history of science". Newton showed that Ptolemy had predominantly obtained the astronomical results described in his work The Almagest by computation, and not by the direct observations that Ptolemy described.

Distrust of Ptolemy's observations goes back at least as far as doubts raised in the 16th century by Tycho Brahe and in the 18th Century by Delambre. Arthur Berry made similar remarks in about 1899. R. R. Newton also made a charge of conscious falsification.

Newton was also known for his work on change of the rotation rate of the earth, and historical observations of eclipses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Russell_Newton


Apparently these guys are not only claiming that the Moon's orbit relative to the Earth has changed dramatically a couple of times in recent history, since returning to its original orbit, but Newton is also claiming that ancient authors were fabricating things on top of that. I find it amusing that he applies his mistrust of supposedly ancient texts so narrowly. If anyone deserves not to be trusted, it's the Catholic Church and all of the supposed copies of ancient manuscripts they were pouring out during the "Middle Ages." Ptolemy's work is supposed to come from 2nd century Greece, something like 1800-1900 years ago. No doubt the original manuscripts do not survive. Without looking it up I would be willing to bet $50 that the oldest surviving copy was made by Catholics during the Middle Ages. I would be willing to bet a lot more but I have a tendency to always doubt everything, including myself. At any rate it wouldn't be difficult to look up.


Wikipedia lists these two books for Newton, that seem to be relevant:

The moon's acceleration and its physical origins ... Vol 1: as deduced from solar eclipses. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press. 1979.
The moon's acceleration and its physical origins ... Vol 2: as deduced from general lunar observations. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press. 1984.

Maggie
10th May 2016, 18:57
It is very exciting, people are or better put, mainstream there is a waking up to, this official history does not make sense, who would manipulate humanity on such a grand scale and why Plus is this still happening, oh wow 9/11 looks suss, end result, we are very powerfullll beings and once were.

Yes, I think you are right on... when we wake up to the way history revision is easy to inject, we see there is manipulation, we feel suspect of the mainstream story, see inconsistencies right before our eyes like with 9/11 and dare I say evenst like Sandy Hook..... Now what?

That is my serious question. The reason I ask it is that I refuse to stay just on uncovering that we are lied to by the press of the news. The printing press has given way to the internet express where "news" comes on almost immediately along with revisionist perspectives. One kind of revisionist perspective that EVERYTHING is lies is a conspiracy dogma.That "of its kind" result in disnfo.

Like for me who knows survivors, the revisionist dogma that the intentional Nazi German genocide of undesirables never happened. The dogma also, as some have laughed about, proclaiming the flat earth....other disinfo lines of "their own kind....

Examples like the promises that we will see massive changes because something is happening like arrests, economic plans etc. These claims are now years old and history. "it's Happening, well at least will be soon".... Soon...always soon, see some massive change then. This is a kind of his-story in the present. The his-story of what is supposed to be happening somewhere around, not seen, but supposed to be happening.

How will you all be using this information? Uncovering the fact that revision is always afoot even in minutes? How to use the fact concerning all the lies as business usual? I really am asking the ones who have their own discerning eye...Now what

modwiz
10th May 2016, 20:08
If one is not involved actively in doing something to change the way things are they have little reason to expect change for the better. The ones who want things worse for us are organized and doing their thing. Spending time on forums discussing what "they" are doing is a recipe for losing. Where are our plans for making the change happen? I do not speak for myself as I have been engaged for a year now and despite the slow movement there is effort and some progress. Being part of the change is very satisfying. Seeing people discuss the same old crap is quite discouraging.

Sylvie's videos are very inspiring as they show our past greatness and the parasitic darkness that has inserted itself into our world. The internet allows us to coordinate plans if we ever come up with any.

Novusod
11th May 2016, 20:36
Agreed modwiz: If one is not involved actively in doing something to change the way things are they have little reason to expect change for the better.


We need to take an active approach to fighting the official history and replacing it with the TRUTH. Lies cannot stand in the light of the truth. I personally am always sending Sylvie new material to look at and put on Megaliths.org


For example I just sent her this: The Magical forest of Huelgoat.

Is this natural formation or an Elf Castle???

The Magical forest of Huelgoat is ruined megalithic site containing several monuments to a lost ancient culture.
Interesting highlights of Huelgoat:
http://i.imgur.com/IzOlLum.jpg (forest)
http://i.imgur.com/meyMLFu.jpg (Chamber)
http://i.imgur.com/mQU2xVO.jpg (inner chamber)
http://i.imgur.com/J1wVmM8.jpg (hall)
http://i.imgur.com/FesIBgg.jpg (more)


Note the strange tool marks near the Tremblante stone.
http://i.imgur.com/8NjR2P5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/C4foXQo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uxtPbiG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YDtPiwV.jpg


Huelgoat Stairs:
http://i.imgur.com/fDh15i6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ApU5Tvs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iiy6XCS.jpg


Huelgoat Menage de la Vierge
http://i.imgur.com/m1xMq26.jpg


Huelgoat Le Champignon Rocher (Mushroom rock)
http://i.imgur.com/lHDrUWY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KbWFOxo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EgOCPLZ.jpg

Huelgoat rocher bridge http://i.imgur.com/rOiSihv.jpg
(they lived in harmony with nature)

More can be seen in this tourist video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOHuggUN6SE

Maggie
12th May 2016, 07:30
Agreed modwiz: If one is not involved actively in doing something to change the way things are they have little reason to expect change for the better.


We need to take an active approach to fighting the official history and replacing it with the TRUTH. Lies cannot stand in the light of the truth. I personally am always sending Sylvie new material to look at and put on Megaliths.org


For example I just sent her this: The Magical forest of Huelgoat.

Is this natural formation or an Elf Castle???

The Magical forest of Huelgoat is ruined megalithic site containing several monuments to a lost ancient culture.

What an enchanting place!

Thanks for sharing these images with us and I think Sylvie will be delighted.

It would be a great contribution IMO that we become so wealthy in time and travel expenses that we visit the sites, especially those near us.
IMO, direct experience is a treasure.

One person I met once Gary Evans reported that when he visited Egypt, he could sit before 2D hieroglyphs and they would pop out to 3D.

One of my experiences was at a place near me that is called Fort Mountain in Ellijay Georgia USA. It has a serpentine rock wall at the top that is in astronomical alignment. It was said to be built by The Moon Eyed people. These "people" were said to be ones who came out at night.

My experience there was that I encountered a vortex. It took aligning with it to pass by without a visceral body fright feeling like one has on high places. Before I aligned it was kicking me out, afterwards I was given "entrance". The entrance was not to any place but subtle acceptance of me being there. Incidentally the Georgia masons built a tower there which is still in place.

IMO our ability to actually encounter these sites is dependent on becoming freed up in time and in resources. What I act on in my life is all about manifestation of my earthly abundance by releasing my resistance to receiving support FOR the kinds of activity that would be personally valuable. (Travel to megalithic sites is one).

Also, in line with this is staying somewhat naive to all the declarations of hazard to be worried over: Earth changes, TBTB repressing, the need to create a safe place for withstanding disaster.....

IMO we are NOT in the collective place some seem to be fearing.
The predicted overwhelms of disaster have not been seen (in my experience). Small chaotic nodes do appear. WHAT IF Human to Human/and Human to ultra dimensional energies interactions are NOT as bad as (all secondary source) media might show us.

Just look to your own life and what do you see? If there is overwhelm, how much is self generated? I am asking questions here...I may be off base.

However, IMO this personal is what is real. IMO "Universal Laws" are evidence of power and goodness at work from us (including our sentient Earth consciousness) for us and LIFE. IMO Universal laws are useable in practical ways. They are not esoteric any longer. They are available to practice and must consciously used and be acted out to show the skill IS ours.

Troubles YES and CHALLENGE maybe our mundane "life time" given, but my experience is that others are around and they bring help. Becoming sick and tired of our repetitive self sabotage leads to choosing to surrender to change (on a grand scale). IMO this is "intentional" on a collective scale. "Magically", "Universal" guidance may be accessed when the willingness arises. IMO the phe may be part of this helpful "force"?

What do we KNOW beyond what we believe? There is a clear difference and doubt can overshadow knowing when the mind is playing in thought forms.

What IF we as a human collective mind already "woke up"? What if our minds still doubt (and we need only resume knowing)? What if the daily life we lead as personality is superficial and DOES NOT ******** our own experience of being awake? It just takes in chaotic nodes to mess around OR NOT?

Have we already worked with Mother Earth so that we will not be destroyed and start over at square one?
What contribution is ours and what "doubt" and what do we need to stand firm on when given the opinions of those we "hear" tell the tale?
Is this a ridiculous assertion or the choice (some anyway) people already made THIS time?

Maggie
12th May 2016, 07:45
Freddy Silva

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Aianawa
12th May 2016, 13:31
Enjoyed all 2 hours 6 minutes.

Maggie
12th May 2016, 22:09
Enjoyed all 2 hours 6 minutes.

Though long, I agree that all of the interview was worthwhile. iIn the interview, Freddy Silva reported on the creation of sacred space.
I found a pdf that describes the attributes of sacred space:
Temple Building (http://p.b5z.net/i/u/10000305/f/temple_building_12.pdf)


Creating sacred spaces in the modern world is to create a relationship with universal laws.
The purpose for connecting and communicating with
invisible forces is for communication, manifesting and
healing. Groups or individuals can create sacred spaces that
are functional and unobtrusive to open a closer bond with
unseen universes.

Within sacred space the veils are thinner, creating
gravitational and magnetic anomalies. This energetic environment allows those who visit the temples to ride a
wave of energy that connects one to everything, it opens doorways to the other realities.
Spiritual Technologies balance and restore energy and have no expiration date. They are used for working with
the subtle intelligences for greater stability. Applying these technologies is to create sanctuaries for engaging in
dialog with the forces that exist for guidance. Sacred space sets up a natural harmonic in the arrangement and
intention of the elements within it.

Temples are principles of sacred space applied in modern times. Earth Temples and Human Bodies are mirrors
of each other, they are portals of possibility that harness subtle energies for Co-Creating with the unseen world.
Within the principles of sacred space one is able to harness the energies that support conscious manifestation by
resonating with higher frequencies and intelligences. Temple structures amplify the energy of those who visit
them, this multiplies the potential of an individuals power and aids in manifestation.
Temples were not just places of worship, they were places of initiation to subtle forces, places of connecting
with source. Subtle forces exists and are inherent in the land and known as the Local Spirit, they are the forces
that shape our world.

Think of Temples as Antennas that create a harmonic resonance with the cosmic rhythm in the local environment.
Creating such a bond and inviting the exchange of information re-establishes a sympathetic resonance
with the environment and universal laws.

Temples are created using a combination of natural harmonics to awaken the human energy system to greater
flow. All organisms generate a resonance, the vitality of an organism depends on it’s resonance with the environment.
When resonance exists a bond is established and information is exchanged. Disease = Dissonance in
our resonance with our environment which short circuits our connection to spiritual support.

We are able to create our own sacred space by our intention and using natural principles.
The Pdf goes into all of these common principles of sacred space.

1. Water
2. Magnetism
3. Sacred Measure
4. Anchoring
5. Principle Geometries
6. Orientation: Adding an Entrance, Gateway or Portal
6. Orientation:4 Material or Fixed Alignments:AKA Cardinal Directions
7. Intention

Also in the pdf he relates that harnessing Universal Laws of Manifestation in creative integrity is a responsibility:


7 Universal Laws of Manifestation
Now that you understand how to harness
elemental forces, it's critical to do so with
integrity and responsibility.
1. You cannot manifest what is not in
accordance with your souls purpose.
Your soul rules over your ego. Your soul may have a
purpose you’re not conscious of.
2. Be careful what you ask for—you manifest it.
Avoid pushing or forcing your will, surrender to your
intuitive guidance.
3. You cannot manifest what is not in accordance with the principles of the local spirit.
Sympathetic resonance with the local spirit is required— joy and effortlessness is a sign you are in
resonance.
4. What is the Intent behind your intent?
Be honest with yourself. When you create from scarcity, lack or fear you create more of the same. Be
aware of your motivation for creating and intending and begin with gratitude and a sense of abundance.
5. Always manifest for the highest good of all.
You are a part of a much larger whole, if everyone and all benefit from your request, it manifests easily.
6. Lack of trust is an obstacle to true manifestation.
You must believe in the process, doubt tells the forces you are not ready. You must believe in your abilities
and trust the principles.
7. ‘Physical and ‘Spiritual’ cohabit separate time zones.
Avoid wondering “When is this going to happen?” Plant the seeds and practice patience


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Maggie
13th May 2016, 07:14
I hope that some can spend time with Freddy Silva because the information is IMO very coherent. There is some reiteration in various talks but but he focuses different accents in different videos.

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Elen
18th May 2016, 10:12
Sylvie is comparing the different sites of megaliths from all over the world. Novusod, she has included your pictures and especially thanked you in this documentary. And from me, thank you.

Rivers of stones that cannot be explained by the officials, mostly prevalent in Russia, i.e. Siberia and Tartaria comes to my mind actually. Old historic sites that all of a sudden lost it's historical status and became a geological site, but still holds anomalies that are not easy to explain. Like people that loses contact with each other only meters apart. Digging a little deeper in local history, reveals that there were still people around who remembered how they heard explosions and afterwards saw lorries transporting a lot of stones away.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPrwFzSIV5g&feature=em-uploademail

Maggie
19th May 2016, 01:47
Boyne Valley is one long list of Ireland’s megalithic sites: Newgrange, the Hill of Tara, Trim Castle, Monasterboice… The High Man documentary is about a fascinating giant figure of a warrior god in this ancient landscape of Ireland.

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http://www.mythicalireland.com/Boyne-Valley-Map/


Combining two ancient and holy Irish rivers, several ancient roadways, monuments and other features in the surrounding landscape, The High Man is an enormous figure of a warrior- or god-like man. Near the east coast of Ireland in an area anciently called Ferrard, which means, literally, “High Man”, the geoglyph measures 12 miles from top to bottom. The incredibly human-like character looms large on a very sacred and historical landscape. The builders of this geoglyph were able to take in the entire landscape and conceive how it appeared from the air – the only place where it truly becomes apparent that it is Orion the Hunter with a shield.
http://geographer-at-large.blogspot.com/2011/03/st-patricks-great-equinox-journey.html

http://mythicalireland.com/enter-high-man.jpg

Maggie
19th May 2016, 07:38
WHAT IF

The Tuatha Dé Danann


The structure of Stonehenge is much older than the authorities wish you to accept. Those estimations of approximately 8.000 to 9,000 years are closer to the truth of when they were built other than only a few thousand years ago.

This was still a time after the collapse of Atlantis and the race who created Stonehenge were also the race in Ireland known as the Tuatha de Danaan and these are, as some say, the same race of several mummies that were found in Xiaoche, China, who also built the mounds in North America, especially the mounds on the eastern coast the United States of America. So, this race should be found all around the world.

This race were the people who went before the ones that are now known as the megalith builders, a mysterious group that is little known about. They were known to the ancient Irish Celts as the Tuatha de Danaan, they were the red-haired, blue-eyed individuals the native Americans speak of, and are spoken of around the world in their connection to the ancient times, to the Atlanteans and Atlantis itself.

The King Arthur legends, with Merlin, the Round Table, Camelot, the Grail (the stone fallen form the sky) and Excalibur could possibly be old stories taken from myth going as far as the Tuatha De Danaan race. J. R. R. Tolkien, the South African writer and philologist took these legends and the Scandinavian myth, and created the world of Middle Earth and its different characters, who some of them are very similar to the Tuatha De Danaan.

The Tuatha de Danaan still had the knowledge and technology of their forefathers and used this technology to create Stonehenge. This technology could be related to some sort of magic known by them, which could be related as the same science and knowledge as the one discovered by XXth Century Serbian scientist Nikola Tesla, regarding cold electricity, implosive energy, longitudinal waves and scalar energy. Also, the new scientific and archaeological theories point that some great ancient megalithic monuments around the world, such as the Great Pyramid in Giza could possibly be power generators machine, with the target to align the Solstices and Equinoxes with the Sun, to know the Precession, and also to create energy and to generate dimensional portals to other worlds. Water would be the element which these power plant monuments would work. This matches with the recent new discovery in Stonehenge, some months ago, in which the archaeologists have found some circled canals surrounding the site, and some other as well found just some meters nearby.

There were other sites also that were used that have been lost, but Stonehenge is a site which is still available. There will be other sites found: some under sea. There are sites as well in Peru, where the Tuatha de Danaan also played a part.

There are ancient sites all around the planet, some under sea, some underground, some on the surface, but all remnants have been removed or destroyed, but nonetheless new evidence will be found, new understanding, information brought forward. This new evidence will play a role again, as they are destined to return from the state of consciousness where they reside to help the forward progress of the planet, as it moves into its new level of consciousness, and assumes its new rightful place.
https://eduardopiperet.wordpress.com/2013/11/13/the-tuatha-de-danaan-stonehenge-atlantis-and-the-ancient-secret-wisdom/



In Irish-Celtic mythology, the Tuatha Dé Danann ("People of the goddess Danu") are the Irish race of gods, founded by the goddess Danu. These gods, who originally lived on 'the islands in the west', had perfected the use of magic. They traveled on a big cloud to the land that later would be called Ireland and settled there.
Shortly after their arrival they defeated the Firbolg at the first battle of Mag Tuireadh. In the second battle of Mag Tuireadh they fought and conquered the Fomorians, a race of giants who were the primordial inhabitants of Ireland. The Tuatha Dé dealt more subtly with the Fomorians than with the Firbolg, and gave them the province of Connacht. There was also some marrying between the two races.
The Tuatha Dé themselves were later driven to the underworld by the Milesians, the people of the fabulous spanish king Milesius. There they still live as invisible beings and are known as the Aes sidhe. In a just battle, they will fight beside mortals. When they fight, they go armed with lances of blue flame and shields of pure white.
Important members are of the Tuatha Dé are: Dagda, Brigid, Nuada, Lugh, Dian Cecht, Ogma, and Lir. The goddess Danu can also be identified with the Welsh goddess Don.http://www.pantheon.org/articles/t/tuatha_de_danann.html


The Tuatha Dé Danann

Name: Tuatha Dé Danann/ Danaan / Men of Dea
Origin: The Islands of the North - Lochlann (Norway)?
Original Cities: Failias, Gorias, Findias, & Murias
Associated Sites: Magh Tuiredh (Moytura), Brugh na Boinne (Newgrange), Teltown, Co. Meath
Kings: Nuada of the Silver Arm Bres Mac Elatha Lugh the Long-handed, Dagda Bodb Derg
Associated Deities: Danu Medb
Druid: Dagda
Warrior: Oghma
Arts & Crafts: Lugh
Medicine: Dian Cécht
Smithcraft: Goibhniu
Poet: Cairpre son of Oghma
Brazier: Credne
Wright: Luchtaine
Harper: Cas Corach
The Tuatha Dé Danann (which means the people of Danu) arrived in Ireland bearing with them their stone of destiny called the Lia Fail which they placed on the mound of Tara and ever after the rightful kings of Ireland were chosen when it called out. They also brought the spear of Lugh which ensured victory to whoever wielded it, The Sword of Nuada from whom none could escape and the Cauldron of the Dagda from which none would go unsatisfied.

There is a story that they came to Ireland in flying ships but could not land as the Fomorians had set up a great energy field that they could not penetrate. So they had to circle Ireland nine times before finding a breach in the energy field and setting down on Sliabh an Iarainn (The Iron Mountains) in Co. Leitrim.

They clashed with the Fir Bolg (the men of the bags or pot-bellied ones) who they defeated at the first battle of Magh Tuiredh (Moytura) and routed towards the West of Ireland where they allowed them to stay. After defeating the Fir-Bolg they were challenged by the Fomorians and had to fight another battle this time in Co. Roscommon, which became known as the second battle of Magh Tuiredh, they defeated the great Fomorian warrior Balor, and so laid undisputed claim to the land.

They prospered under their two great heroes Nuada of the Silver Arm and Lugh of the Long Arm. They were eventually defeated by the Milesians at Teltown. As they were a magical people they decided to go underground into another dimension of space and time the entrances to which are at many sites around Ireland; one of the most famous being Brugh na Boinne (Newgrange).

It was reputed that only iron weapons could injure them. They became like gods to the later Celtic people and were worshipped as such. They became known as the people of the Sidhe (mounds) and there are many Faery Mounds in existence in Ireland today.The Tuatha Dé Danann (http://www.shee-eire.com/magic&mythology/races/tuatha-de-danann/page1.htm)

Large sunken islands, ancient gods, Technology of the gods and sacred artifacts.

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Robin Williamson - A Tale of the Deeds of the Tuatha Dé Danann - Megalithomania 2009
A bardic account of the two battles of Moytura, the sacred megalithic complex in Sligo. From the magical lore of ancient Ireland, this tale recounts conflicts of the ancestors at the dawn of the world. Stark, strange, beautiful, violent and hinting always at hidden truths, this of all ancient Celtic stories presents an insight into Druidic allegorical teachings.

Robin Williamson, founder in the 60's of the influential Incredible String Band and the Merry Band of the 70's, has been a key figure at the forefront of the storytelling revival in Europe and America since the 80's. He has authored a number of books including The Craneskin Bag (re-telling and re-versifications of Celtic lore) and Celtic Bards, Celtic Druids (co-authored with R.J. Stewart). Robin is Honorary Chief Bard of The Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids.

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In the Scandinavian countries the craft or ability to gain wisdom or power (Sanskrit - Siddhi) by yielding to daemons or intelligences (ancestral god spirits which were part of the practitioners’ own genetic inheritance and make-up) through trance or dream states was considered to be shamanic and was called Siddir, whilst those who practiced this art were themselves called Siddirs.

The Siddir knotted together the web of dreams and loosened those knots to release power and knowledge.

In other words they brought together and spoke or gesticulated a series of mnemonics that would trigger off precontrived, imprinted states of consciousness that acted as doorways into deeper seats of consciousness.

In Gaelic Scythian this ability and the name corresponding to it was called the Sidhe, a term used to describe and name the Irish fairies, the Tuadha d’Anu or Tuatha de Danaan as they were later called, a race of priest kings or druid princes.

The Web of Dreams relates to both the witches’ knotted ball and the Web of Wyrd or Fate (fata-fairy) and in the Scythian and Celtic cosmology, the power associated with it was thought to reside in the Otherworld, the realm of the gods (druidic ancestors) which was entered via trance or dream states, achieved whilst the druid or druidess occupied the fairy hills, the mortuary raths where the forefathers were buried.

The witch, as a seer or Merlin in Scythian culture and society, consequently belonged to an exclusive genome within a distinct holy and royal caste of overlords, which is reflected in the Gaelic word for a witch - Druidhe - which is pronounced Drui and is related to Draoi and Dracoi, meaning a dragon. Drui itself means Man (or Woman) of the Tree (not men of the oaks, as some have suggested) and is also related to the Sanskrit dru, meaning to run. This is associated with the ritual of running the labyrinth, with which we will deal in due course.

Therefore in Galatia, which had its own druids and was the site of the Nemeton, the largest regular gathering of druids in Europe, the term for a witch was Uber meaning Overlord, whilst in the Gaelic west the term for a witch was Druidhe which meant the same as Uber - An Overlord.

In summary vampire in its earlier form - oupire - derives ultimately from the Galatian Uber, which itself is derived from the Aryan Upari and linguistically and contextually the Vampire - the witch or druid - was a Scythian High Queen or King: an Overlord.

It is interesting to note in this context that when he compiled his journals in the 17th century Calmet, who had traveled extensively throughout the Austrian empire as an official vampire investigator accompanying imperial officers and soldiers, wrote that he had found no evidence whatsoever to support any notion that vampirism was either a supernatural phenomenon committed by praeter-natural beings - which he utterly refutes - or that it ever occurred in any form, either as a cult or in any isolated incidents, amongst the lower strata of society.

Without exception the enlightened Abbé was able to discover perfectly ordinary explanations for the incidents he had investigated, which in his day was quite remarkable, as the Church in past times had actively promoted vampire paranoia.

As Professor Margaret Murray discovered herself, vampirism was not the prerogative of the merchant or peasant classes, but was a cultic observance confined to the environs of the nobility, often as an adjunct to rites of the Noble and Royal Witch Covens of Scotland.

We can say with confidence then that real vampirism was indulged in by living beings who, unerringly, were members of the pre-christian and anti-christian high nobility and royalty. The most famous vampire stories, those of Dracula, Bathory and de Rais, support this conclusion. The historical evidence therefore supports the etymological origin of the word ’vampire’ - An Overlord.

Vampirism, up until the early 1700’s, by which time it had been in decline for several centuries, was not merely or solely the practice of a few isolated, high-born opportunists seeking some form of personal advantage or satisfying private perversions. Vampirism took two forms and the bloodline descendants of the ancient vampire lords had, in Britain, set the practice within an overall, multi-faceted social and cultural framework, stemming from the Iron-Age, that never gets an airing in the Gothic novel.

Vampires weren’t just vampires, as the penny dreadful would have us believe, they were individuals and families who used the practice to achieve specific aims and thereby fulfill those specific social obligations which, since the Scythian-Celtic period of the High Dragon Kings, were equated with their rank and position as leaders and overseers.

The Scythians

Throughout this discourse it must be borne in mind that when we speak of the Scythians as ’fairies’, ’dragons’, ’vampires’ or ’elves’, we are not talking about either the client races of the Scythians, or the ordinary Scythian citizenry, but of ’Royal Scythians’.

As we have discovered, the vampire - as a "witch" - belonged by genetic inheritance, to a distinct royal caste in Scythian-Celtic society, that of the priest-king or priestess-queen, the prince and princess-druids who had evolved very early on in human social history and who belonged to a Eurasian-wide hereditary priestly community which had originated with the Scythian-Aryans. The name Scythian was originally spelt Sithian in 16th century England, and it is from this tribal name that we obtain the word scythe, denoting a curved bladed agricultural tool, so named because of its similarity in shape to the Scythian sword.

The Scythians weren’t however named after their use of a curved sword. The name Sithian is related to a group of words that appear in Indo-European languages which are found as far apart as Eire and Northern India, indicating that they had a common Aryan origin in Scythia. These include - Sithia, Sidhe, Siddir and Siddhi.

In Cymric ’dd’ is pronounced ’th’, whilst in Irish and Scots the ’th’ is spelt dialectically ’dh’ whilst the ’s’ beginning a word is pronounced ’sh’. As we have related, the Siddir in Danish society were witches who practiced the art of knot tying and loosening.

These Siddir were directly related to the mythic Norns, the Mori or Fates who were said to be responsible for the fate of mankind by the patterns that they wove in the way that they tied and loosened the knots of the Web of Wyrd. The Siddirs, as well as being seers, could control such power as to influence the outcome of human affairs and in this respect their name reflects their abilities which, in India, were called the Siddhis, a word used to describe the powers of the Yogi who had self-realized.

The curious Irish word - Sidhe - pronounced ’shee’, ’sheeth’ or ’sheeth-ay’, attributed to the fairies and meaning ’powers’, is therefore identical to Siddir (sheeth-eer) and Siddhi (sheeth-ee) and is derived therefore, from the people of the powers - the Scythians or Sidheans (sheethee-ans). In Scotland the royal fairies were called the Seelie or Sheelie and their princesses were related to the sculpted Sheelagh Na Gigs over church doorways, who do NOT depict ancient goddesses of fertility, but were the royal Grail Maidens of the Elven kings and queens.

The Sheelagh na Gigs were goddesses of sovereignty and transcendence, and their place over the doorways of churches, many of which were built on the sites of ancient sacred groves, indicated that in entering these buildings one was entering through the vulva of the maiden into the otherworld, the realm of Elphame and the Kingdom of Heaven.

They were permitted above church doorways because the early church itself wanted to be identified with the old ways, firstly because it was in fact, at least in the beginning, part of the old ways and later, when catholicism took over, the Sheelaghs remained in place - in order to attract and convert "pagans".

Along with the Irish Sidhe, the Seelie and the Seelie Court of Scotland had a distinctly royal origin in the Tuadha d’Anu who when asked, like their Pictish descendants in Scotland, said of themselves that they were Scythian, as Canon Beck himself has insisted.

Some people tend to think that the word sidhe means a hill and therefore that the Irish Danaan, as the Sidhe, inherited this name as a consequence of fleeing into the hills after their defeat by the Milesians. As we can see this is not so and the fairy "hills", where the Aes Dan or Danaan, the gods of the Irish, were said to live, weren’t all Sidhe hills.

These - the power hills - were the sacred temple-mortuary raths and barrows, the creachaires or tomb-sepulchers, that the Danaan priest-kings were wont to ritually occupy for millennia before moving to Eire, and centuries before their Iberian kinsmen, the Milesians, came looking for a fight. The Sidhe, the Fairies, were the ’controllers of the fate of mankind’ and so named in remembrance of, and in identification with, their ancient Anunnaki (Anunnagi) ancestors.

In pre-christian history, although some practiced agriculture for a while, according to Murray-Hall M.A. they abandoned it for their traditional way of life and many of the Scythian clans remained solitary and insular nomadic pastoralists - horse lords who ranged across large tracts of Europe and Asia for centuries. Others opted late for a more settled existence and mixed settled agriculture with pastorialism, a system that can be found in both Takla Makan, where they built fine cities, and in Ireland, where they became know as the trooping fairies.

In general they were usually tall, pale skinned, with golden red hair and green eyes, unlike the Celts, who were stocky and squat, with ruddy complexions and dark hair, and practiced settled agriculture from a very early period.

The recent and rather unfortunate propagandist depiction of the Aryan (Scythian) as a tall, ruddy complexioned blonde racist yeoman-farmer-warrior-god has no basis in truth. In pre-christian history an Aryan was a High King, a warrior was a warrior and a farmer was a farmer and ne’er the three e’er met. The real Aryans of fact were red haired and green eyed, their hired military help, derived from their lower Ksatriya caste who were not Aryan were, sometimes, blonde and blue eyed.

The Aryan royal families didn’t intermarry with other tribes or castes but, with the development by many of their clans of settled city-states such as Scythopolis (30 AD, on the banks of the River Jordan just south of Galilee) nevertheless they became urban multi-racialists and appreciated cultural diversity.

The Aryan Hittites in particular were close allies of the Jews whose Draconian royal family, the House of David, made the Israelites, in a cultural sense, an early Aryan nation, and the Scythians and the Aryan Scythian Gaels had numerous settlements either in or adjacent to Israel and Judea.

The comparatively early use of the horse and of horse related technology separated the Aryans from the other tribes that occupied the middle-east and Eurasia. In Mittani, Mesopotamia, Akkad and Anatolia the Hurrians (whom in the 1920’s B. Hrozny described as the earliest Hindus) were the absolute Overlords and their supremacy is credited to their early use, like the Kurgans, of horse-drawn chariots.

The Hur syllable in Hurrian has been asserted by scholars, including G. Contenau (’La Civilisation des Hittites et des Hurrites de Mittani’) to be Har or Ar, meaning that the Hurrians, like the Scythians were Aryans with an Aryan Vedic royal-sacral family of gods.

These they bestowed upon the Hittites whose culture they dominated, (as the Hurrian or Aryan Mittani did in Mesopotamia) and the Hittites, in turn, provided the Greeks with these red-gold haired gods, including Zeus or Dyas Pater - the Jewish Jehovah, whose ancient symbol, shared with the sacred dynasty as a whole was - ironically - the swastika.

The early "Scythians", the people of the powers, occupied a region spanning The Balkans, Transylvania, Carpathia, the Ukraine and later, Siberia and Takla Makan where the Tocharians, as the Elves were mistakenly called by early linguists, spoke a ritual language which is now called Tocharian A but which originated in Thrace in 1800 BC and thus had connections with the Fir Bolg and consequently with the Tuadha d’Anu as a whole, who began migrating from Central Europe to Ireland at that period.

Over the centuries, from 5000 BC onwards, the Scythians had also migrated into the middle-east and had provided ruling families for many tribes and nations along and beyond the eastern Mediterranean coast.

In the ’Annals of Irish History’ the Scythian ’Tuadha d’Anu’ who had migrated farther still, to the islands of the north, were described as a tribe of deific queens, kings, princes and lords and were noted for having druids of their own. In Japan’s North islands there lives a shamanic tribe called the Ainu whose early writing style has been identified as being Gaelic Ogham!

As a noble tribe, a sect of the Aryan peoples who, during various migrations, had also wandered east several centuries before the d’Anu displacement and their reputed first journey to Eire in 1500 BC, the Aryan-Scythian horse lords, traveling south-east via Persia (Iran) from 1800 BC onwards, had entered the Indus Valley and intermingled with the Dravidian population.

This migration was to lands already formerly under Sumerian and consequently Ubaid control. The westward migration of the Scythians or Sidheans also included these very same Dravidians who, so British traditions state, were the messengers and summoners or ’fetches’ of the Merlins.

These curious and delightful beings were also known as brownies, for obvious reasons and adopted the habit of body tattooing in emulation of their Scythian lords, who in Britain and Ireland were known as the Pixies, which is a name derived from Pict-Sidhes or painted fairies.

The confusion which arises when the Picts are described as being short and brown may be clarified when we remember that the Scythian Caste System consisted of three closely interknit, co-operating races, whose traditions and practices would inevitably become, to a certain extent, common to all within the system by a natural process of social osmosis.

From this encounter arose the eastern branch of the Aryan, Vedic "Hindu" religion, with its druids or magi - the Brahmins - and a pantheon of gods who were virtually identical with the Sumerian, the Egyptian, the Hittite, The Irish, the Gaulish, the Danish and the Greek, all of which stem from this early family of Elven goddess-queens and god-kings whose first home was to be found in The Balkans, Transylvania, Carpathia and the Caucasus regions of Greater and Little Scythia.

Within the Brahmin caste special Tantric rites were and still are studied and practised. Evidence suggests that these ancient rites were brought to India from Sumeria. This accords with the assertion that Qabalah itself originated there also and the author has long maintained that Tantra, particularly the Kaula Vama Marg and Esoteric Qabalism are simply variations of each other. The Tree of Life symbol and its hidden meanings appears in Druidism and given the evidence to date, we can confidently say that Tantra and Qabalah are descended from ancient Ubaid Druidic philosophy.

The right hand path version of Hindu and Buddhist Tantra concerns itself with studying and practicing sexual rites that one might find associated with the Kama Sutra. This form of Tantra promotes penetrative intercourse as a method of changing consciousness and has attached to it various commentaries on right-living and right-thinking. This was thought by some Indian scholars to have originated with those who were depicted by one Indian scholar as the animistically minded, sex mad weasels, the Dravidians. The left hand path however is somewhat different.

This discipline can be found in both Hinduism and Buddhism and concerns itself with the practice of vampirism. This alone is sufficient evidence to allow one to ascertain that the ’Black’ or Left Hand or Kaula Path preceded the later right hand path which, though joyously tactile and self indulgent to begin with, appears many centuries later to have been somewhat sanitized for public consumption. The yogic disciplines associated with the Kaula Path, originating with the Scythians, are intended to lead the practitioner to what one might call ’union with godhead’.

This psychological condition is manifest in mystical christianity as being the perception by the devotee of ’the kingdom of heaven’. That few christians ever achieve such a state is not to be wondered at, as christianity is also a royal blood tradition, exactly like its brother and sister, Druidism and Witchcraft.

Many christians haven’t got a clue about this aspect of Jesus’ teaching and are in any case not encouraged to explore its possibilities because such union leads to physical and psychological freedom, the very last thing that the established churches wish to encourage in the masses, even though Jesus himself preached it.

Union with Godhead, dwelling in Elphame, realization of the Buddha or whatever one likes to call it is accompanied by a range of powers which were catalogued by the amazing Edwardian lady explorer Alexandra David Niel, who witnessed the performance of these remarkable powers or Siddhis by Buddhist monks in Nepal and Tibet, whose ritual and philosophy owed much to the indigenous religion Bon-Po which ethically followed the same path as Kaula Vama Marg.

In the west we call it magic but, as we have seen, it was also known as the Sidhe. Kaula Tantra is dedicated to the Goddess Kali who is associated with both creation and destruction in the Hindu pantheon. Kali is a lunar deity who, like Tantra itself, moved east from Sumeria. As a moon goddess she is associated particularly with moon blood and the essences of the female organs of generation.

So what can we say of the nascence of Vampirism so far? Principally that it originated, not surprisingly, in Transylvania and the Central Eurasian region known as Scythia and that its practitioners were of a distinct race, the Elves, the high goddess-queens and god-kings of the Arya or Aesir.

Vampirism was the central feature of a philosophy based on endocrinology, rather than occult mumbo-jumbo and used the consumption of female blood and mumae to enhance awareness and lead the practitioner to union with godhead.

The powers accompanying such an elevated state of consciousness were called the sidhe or siddhi and were, with vampirism, the foundation of the cults of Druidism, Tantric Kaula Yoga, Qabalism, Alchemy, Rosicrucianism and Witchcraft.

Kali, like all the Ubaid Deities was a flesh and blood being. She, Kalimaath or Kali Marg, was a daughter of Lilith and Samael, son of Anu, who appears in the Aryan pantheon as Ahura Mazda and in Iran as the Medean god Zoroaster. Anu himself was the god who gave his name to the Tuatha de Danaan and as Sitchin has suggested the definition of the word god itself is ’descended of Anu’.

Based on the spelling ’Tuatha de Danaan’, some have suggested that these Irish elven folk derived their name from an Irish mother goddess named Dana. If they had checked the earlier spelling - Tuadha d’Anu (Tribe of Anu) - they would have discovered that the Scythian Sidhe were the sons and daughters of Anu and the Ubaid gods and goddesses.

To recap then we have a clear connection between the words siddhi and sidhe both of which originate from a Scythian or earlier proto-Aryan-Ubaid root. The Scythians, as the Aryans of Persia and Asia provided the people then with their religious and social structures and mores and spread their wisdom and overlordship, mostly by invitation from prospective client tribes, throughout Britain and Europe.

The Scythian Aryans, as the ’Danaan’ settled in Eire and Scotland whilst in Wales they were known as the House of Don (Dan) or the House of Gwynnedd. This house sired the line of Llewelyn Princes, whilst in Scandinavia the Danaan became the Danes or Vikings and produced a junior cousin line - the Svei or Swedes - from which descended the Ruotsi clan who founded Russia. In Denmark the Sidhe was present as the Siddir, a class of seer or witch who were later separated from the Godthi or Gothi, the Danish Druids.

The Scythian Danaan in Eire, as in the rest of Europe, were a race apart, a ruling caste within which, like the original race of the Gods from whom they descended, there were further caste classifications.

In Denmark these were later named the Jarl, Carl and Thrall castes whilst in Eire they were broadly speaking the Druids, the Kings and the Warrior Smiths. In India they are still defined as the Brahmins, the Ksatriyas and the Sudras.

The original castes of the Gods were:
the common gods - gods of Earth
the gods of Heaven and Earth
the gods of Heaven
The first class were what we might call jobbing gods who became the genii locus or pagan spirits. The second class - the gods of Heaven and Earth - were the Titans, the Repha’im and Morrighans, the Angels and Valkyries who interceded between the transcended gods, the divine ancestors - the gods of Heaven - and man.

Heaven was the otherworld, not a place up in the stars, but a state of being which was adjacent to our own dimension - called sometimes the mirror-world, most competently described, more than once, in the Mabinogion - which could be freely entered and left by the gods of Heaven and Earth, the Portal Guardians. In this place, also known as Elphame, Hades, Hel, Caer Glas and Tir Na n’og there dwelt the essences of the previous gods of Heaven and Earth who had passed on to become the transcended ones, the ’antecessors’ or ancestors of the later witches.

By dwelling in tombs the gods of Heaven and Earth, the Danaan Queens and Kings, made contact with their ancestor Gods and passed their wisdom and edicts on to mankind. Today we might call this process invocation.

These gods are carried in the blood and by invocation, we bring their qualities and identities to the forefront of conscious being and give them voice. These druidic gods and goddesses of Heaven and Earth were effectively the highest overlords on Earth, the elven rulers of the human kings and queens who ruled beneath them.

Often we find mention of the fairy blood in the medieval era in connection with the ruling nobility of the time. We might then be tempted to come to the logical conclusion that all nobility and royalty was thus of Fairy origin. However this is simply not the case. Despite the usurpation of the original fairy families by the church sponsored new nobility, the previous kingly and noble dynasties were essentially human anyway.

The fairy blood at that time, the dark ages and the medieval period, was carried by the descendants of the Archdruidic dynasties who formerly ruled over the contemporary Celtic and Eurasian kings and lords, it was not carried by any or all of the royal or noble families of the time simply because they were the heads of their castes, because over such class distinctions were positioned additionally, the castes of the elven god-kings themselves.

The gods of Heaven and Earth - the Archdruidic caste - dwelt in Barrows and Bergs which in Eire were called Raths, meaning a ’royal seat’. These Raths were the holy shrines and sepulchres built by the Danaan - the original Gods of Ireland according to the ’Annals of Irish History’ - to house the mortal remains of their ancestors and act as royal palaces for the Portal Guardians. In specific cases these Gods are named, and we learn, for instance, that Newgrange was the shrine occupied by Nuadha and later Oengus.

The devotional and holy nature of these places has led some scholars and commentators to believe that, because they were tombs and temples, then those said to occupy them must be purely spiritual entities, gods of an ethereal nature. Originally nothing could have been farther from the truth. Both Nuadha and Oengus were kings of the Danaan and contemporary descriptions of them and their kin leave us with the picture of the Danaan as a race of people with prodigious and very earthly appetites.

From their kinsmen in Siberia we know that, by our dubious standards, they were complete junkies and imbibed any form of drug they could get hold of. These would have included cannabis and cocaine, prevalent in Egypt and the Levant at the time, as well as the drugs classically associated with the druids and the elves such as Amanita Muscaria and Psylocybin, the fairy mushrooms of children’s picture books everywhere.

The Danaan were hardened drinkers and unscrupulous womanizers, whilst accounts of their princesses relate that they often mated in public with the highest nobles of their clan, to prove or reiterate their social standing to onlookers. (Herodotus: The Histories).

Counterbalancing this view of them, born of our own hypocritical conditioning, the Danaan, whether in Eire or mainland Europe or Asia, were the finest smiths, jewellers, poets and musicians of their time, they were the Lords of fearless warriors and gifted horsemen and, despite what we might think of the foregoing, they were a righteous, meticulous people who maintained standards of conduct in areas of their social life where such standards were considered essential for the harmonious order of society.

Great emphasis was laid upon honesty and truth in one’s words and one’s dealings, the maintenance and conservation of the natural environment was paramount, and infractions, such as the cutting of trees, could mean death. Emphasis was also laid on hospitality and courtly behavior to one’s peers or guests, the honoring of one’s ancestors and heroes, and the maintenance of extended family ties through fostering.

They weren’t bothered about the petty morality we imbue our sexual behavior with but would kill a man for breaking his word or lying. They were an heroic people and, compared with us today, a far more moral race whose standards of conduct, not invested or centered on our kind of childish taboos - but placed where it matters - puts us to shame.

They were a race centered on their spirituality which itself was centered on gnosis and transcendent consciousness. This made them, like their later royal Viking cousins, a fearless people much loved and also much feared in turns, by all who knew them, whether in Eurasia or the British islands.

In about 500bc the Milesians entered Ireland from Iberia. Having defeated the Danaan tribes they put many of them to flight. It was during this period that the Danaan became known as the Daouine Sidhe - the people of the hills - an erroneous use of the word sidhe.

One group, the tribe of the Danaan king of Ulster, Bruidhne (mistakenly called Cruithne by the Romans), fled to Caledonia where they became known as the remnant of Cruithne or the ’Cruithainn’.

Other Danaan clans fled to Wales and the south west of mainland Britain. Several centuries later, when the Romans were unfortunate enough to encounter them in Scotland, they referred to these Danaan as ’Picts’ and it is this word that has adapted itself to become one of the names we use to describe the elven peoples - the pixies - or properly the Pict-Sidhes as we have already seen.

These being also came to be known as the Leprachauns and the etymology of this word, though thought to mean ’small-bodied’ actually means ’scaly-bodied’ from the Latin word lepra as in leprosy - scaly skinned.

The scaliness referred to was derived from the fish -scale style of armour which was common to the draconian Dacians, the Zmei, the Danes and the Danaan, all of whom originated in the region now known as Greater Scythia.

The scaly, twin-pronged tail of the wouivre or mermaid was also derived from the use, by grail maidens, of fish-scale plated leggings. When worn with the swan’s or raven’s feather cloaks, we have the classical image of the Harpie, reproduced in medieval depictions of Melusine.

Pict or Pictish means ’painted’ and the Danaan earned this appellation by virtue of their use of tattoos or woad to decorate their bodies with totemic or magical markings, the favorite being the labyrinth or spiral whorl.

The ancestors of the Irish Danaan - the Ubaid Danaan - had been using tattoos and woad since 4000 BC and examples of it can also be found in depictions of the Egyptian god Osiris or Asher as he is also known, and in the depictions of the Hindu gods Vishnu and Siva.





Kali herself was also known as Kali Azura - the Blue Kali.

The spiral or whorl - the labyrinth - is the subject of a later essay in which it and its painted or carved symbol, lie at the centre of vampire and elven tradition. The spiral can be found carved into the rock at Newgrange in Ireland and also featured as a sacred design associated with the dwellings of the related Kassite Danaan clans who migrated to Britain.

In the Gaelic language we find two words specifically defining ’vampires’. The first - Creachaire - means a sepulchre, a tomb, a shrine and a temple, indicating that the character we later become familiar with as the "vampire" of Gothic legend was in fact a "dweller in the tombs", a druidic priest-king or priestess-queen - an Uber or Witch Overlord.

In Eurasia, particularly in the permafrost of Siberia and the arid wastes of Takla Makan in China, the mummified bodies of Scythian Chieftains and Shamankas or Priestess queens have been found. In Siberia the frozen remains of a male were unearthed. He had been tattooed with animal designs reminiscent of the totem Pictish salmon often found carved on stones in Scotland.

In the same region a shamanka had been unearthed who had been tattooed with the spiral labyrinth design. She, like her counterpart in Takla Makan, wore the conical headress of the Anunnaki gods of Sumeria that is also associated with medieval witchcraft. This same headdress is depicted in bas-relief on the walls of the palace of Darius as being worn by those Scythians who brought him gifts in 500 BC.

The Takla Makan mummy, excavated by the Chinese in the 1960’s had red-gold hair and was buried adjacent to a cache of tartan plaid cloth and spiral painted pottery, similar to that found at Al’Ubaid in Syria.

In the same region caves have been discovered where the walls are painted with devotional Buddhist pictures featuring the Tocharians, as they are known, conversing with Buddha.

Geoffrey Ashe states that the western Druids were interviewed by Buddha who claimed that they, the Druids, had established Shangri-La in the west.

This should give the reader some hint as to the general thrust of druidic philosophy and of the hidden nature of that promoted by Jesus, whom St Columbus clearly stated was also a druid and magus himself.http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_tuathadedanaan11.htm

Maggie
19th May 2016, 11:46
Manly P Hall
ATLANTIS
An Interpretation


It is possible that Poseidonis was the Land of Mud which,
according to the Troano Codex, an early writing of the Mayas of
Yucatan, was destroyed in the year 6 Kan on the 11th Mulac in
the month Zac. Recent discoveries in the departments of Aztec
and Mayan chronology now substantiate the approximate date
of the Atlantean destruction as preserved by Plato. The time
of the submergence of the last remnants of the old Atlantean
continent would thus be fixed at approximately 9500 B.C. But
when the Codex declares that the Land of Mud was sacrificed,
that ten countries were torn asunder and scattered, and finally
sank, carrying their sixty-four million inhabitants with them, it
should be remembered that the ten countries coincide exactly
with the number of islands mentioned by Marcellus and the ten
kingdoms described by Plato.

The word atl itself, like many other Nuahtl, Egyptian, and
Greek roots, is probably directly Atlantean. Le Plongeon has
shown the similarity between certain Mayan glyphs and the
Egyptian hieroglyphs. Gerald Massey assembled an impressive
array of parallels in the word forms of widely separated races. The
oldest forms of Sanskrit indicate parallelisms with the language of
Central America. Research is building up evidence that Mayan
is a very ancient language of definite Atlantean origin.

The following sentences from Baldwin’s Ancient America are
illuminating: “The words Atlas and Atlantis have no satisfac-
tory etymology in any languages known to Europe. They are
not Greek, and cannot be traced to any known language of the
The Lost World Old World.”

It would seem reasonable, therefore, to search for the origins
of these words in the etymological systems of ancient America.
The only part of the New World which developed a refined
historical system or perpetuated a systematic record was Central
America, composed of the area extending from southern Mexico
to the northern parts of South America.

It now appears reasonably certain that the words Atlas and
Atlantis have their origin in the primitive American word atl
which means water. In the calendar system of the Aztecs, the
month Atl was associated with rains, floods, and storms; its hi-
eroglyph was water from heavily laden clouds. The association
between the conception of the universal deluge which destroyed
the prehistoric world, and the root word signifying deluge and
inundation, should not be dismissed as coincidental.

Early European historians were so profoundly impressed
with Plato’s detailed description of the Atlantean empire that
until the beginning of the 16th century designers of maps often
included the Atlantean islands in their charts and globes. It was
only after the discovery of America that this practice fell into
general disuse.

While Plato took liberties with the old legend, it is obvious
that he did not originate the name Atlantis. Had Plato or any
of the Greeks fabricated the name for Atlantis, they would have
selected a word derived from their own speech to designate the
continent. The same could be said for the Egyptians. These
learned people bestowed upon their gods and heroes a multi-
tude of names and titles derived from their own language. The
derivation of the name for the lost continent from a dialect in
the distant Americas is significant.

There is much evidence of Atlantean blood among the red
Indians—the Bering Straits migration theory notwithstanding.
It is highly possible that Asiatic tribes also reached this country,
Atlantis and by the mingling of two definite strains of blood produced
what we now term the American Indian race. In fact, more
than two races may be represented in their blood stream. John
Johnson, Esq., in Archaelogia Americana, says that the Shaw-
nees, an Algonquin tribe, have a tradition that their ancestors
crossed the sea.

These same peoples preserved for many centuries an annual
ceremony in celebration of a deliverance, but it is impossible to
discover the nature of the evil which they providentially escaped.
The catastrophe must have been of considerable import to have
become the subject of such perpetuation. May it have been their
escape from the sinking Atlantis?

Schoolcraft, in The Indian Tribes of the United States, says:
“They relate, generally, that there was a deluge at an ancient
epoch, which covered the earth, and drowned mankind, except
a limited number.” Even the Chinese perpetuate an account of
the flood, and as it is quite evident that the earth’s surface never
was entirely inundated, all these accounts may be traced to the
Atlantean catastrophe.

There is no more significant fragment bearing on this subject
than the famous speech which Montezuma, the Mexican king,
delivered to Cortez, the Spanish conqueror: “I would have you
to understand before you begin your discourse, that we are
not ignorant, or stand in need of your persuasions, to believe
that the great prince you obey is descended from our ancient
Quetzalcoatl, Lord of the Seven Caves of the Navatlaques, and
lawful king of those seven nations which gave beginning to our
Mexican empire.”

In several of the Mexican codices, the origin of the people
is symbolically set forth by diagrams showing seven irregular
circles, presumably intended to represent caverns. In each of
these is a twisted-up human figure resembling an embryo. These
seven are the progenitors of the race.

The Lost World

If we are bold enough to claim that these so-called caverns
really signify islands or continents, we shall not be more daring
than Col. Hamilton Smith who advances this same hypothesis
in his learned work, The Natural History of the Human Species.
It should be quite evident that when Montezuma refers to Quet-
zalcoatl as the Lord of the Seven Caves, he does not intend to
convey that the divine man—Prince Feathered Serpent—was
literally a ruler over seven caverns.

It is a common legend among the American aborigines that
their progenitors came forth out of openings in the earth, ascend-
ing from their subterranean abodes to escape a flood or deluge
loosed by one of the gods of the underworld. In the Navajo
account of the deluge, seven deities were involved. The whole
account may be a survival of the primitive agricultural mythos.

This legend suggests that the Indians had originally inhabited the
lowlands, but had fled to the mountains to escape the terrible
tidal waves caused by the Atlantean disaster which, temporarily
at least, inundated great areas of the earth. (The whole pamphlet is here)Manly P Hall
ATLANTIS
An Interpretation (http://www.docfoc.com/manly-p-hall-atlantis-an-interpretation)


Manly P. Hall - The Atlantean Hypothesis

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playlist

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Maggie
20th May 2016, 05:39
Michael Tsarion's bio.


Described as a teacher's teacher, Michael Tsarion is a Divination Scholar and Sidereal Mythologist. An expert on Stellar Astrology, he is the creator of the Archetypal Stellar Taroscopic© Astrological system of Hermetic Divination, and founder of the online Taroscopic Mystery School. Michael is a descendant of a long line of philosophers, free-thinkers, ascetics and visionaries. His Himalayan born mother was a well-loved, internationally recognized clairvoyant, whose affiliates included Barbara Marx Hubbard, Sir George Trevelyan, Jerry Jampolsky, Elizabeth Kubla-Ross, Shirley MacLean, Edgar Mitchell and a host of other celebrities and academes. She attended J. Krishnamurti’s premier college in India and was later honored as the very first clairvoyant to be a regular on Irish Television. The CEO of Britain’s Independent Broadcasting described her readings as “devastatingly accurate.”

Michael is also the grandson of Tara Singh, the renowned philosopher, author and teacher of the theosophic tome A Course in Miracles. He was the intimate friend of J. Krishnamurti (the World Teacher), Swiss architect Le Corbusier, Keith Critchlow, Alan Chadwick, Eleanor Roosevelt and President Nehru. He was entrusted, by the latter, with India’s 5-year plan of restoration after British withdrawal. Tara Singh was also played a key role in the Rev. Paul Solomon’s Fellowship of Inner Light, one of the first true American mystery schools. He now heads the Foundation for Life Action in Los Angeles.

Michael was born and raised in Ireland and grew up learning metaphysics from Krishnamurti, Rev. Paul Solomon and Peter Balin. Growing up surrounded by leading free-thinkers and mystery school creators he was under pressure to find his own authentic voice rather than becoming dependant on the systems and influences of others. He has honored his pedigree by dedicating his life to the deepest research concerning the seminal metaphysical sciences. And unlike so many, he believes in honoring the work and the names of his mentors. He takes it as a given, the words of Lord Macauly:

A people which takes no pride in the noble achievements of remote ancestors will never achieve anything worthy to be remembered with pride by remote descendants.

Intuitive since birth, he was introduced to the Tarot at age 11 through Rev. Paul Solomon’s premier mystery school - the Fellowship of Inner Light Movement and learning of its profound effect on the human intuition and its value as an empowerment tool, committed his life to bringing Tarot into the lives of others.

He has been affiliated with the Paul Solomon Foundation of Virginia and Rosicrucian Order, the Naqsbaandi Sufi Order, has taught indigo children at the New Age Academy in Berkeley and is frequent guest of Seeing Beyond and KEST, the Bay Area's leading metaphysical radio programs. He has appeared on The Quest with Peter Weisbach, on Seattle's Conspiracy Corner, on Dr. Stan Monteith's Radio Liberty, on Radio Alchemy, KKUP and The Hilly Rose Show, and made five hour-long programs with Bay Area's KMVT. He has been a guest speaker at the Boeing Parapsychological Society and at the UFO/Paranormal conferences of California and Washington where his presentations and lectures on Atlantis and pre-diluvian history, have been passionately acclaimed by veterans in the field, such as Jordan Maxwell, Lloyd Pye, Dr. Roger Leir, Peter Davenport, Robert Perala, and Glenn Kimball, etc,. His book, Atlantis, Alien Visitation and Genetic Manipulation seeks to correct the plethora of disinformation regarding Atlantis and the pre-diluvian epochs and addresses the exact reasons why human beings are finding themselves, existentially and socially, in the present precarious situation. Along with Jordan Maxwell, Michael has been a contributor of information to researcher and author David Icke.http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message277325/pg1


Origins & Oracles Atlantis Alien Visitation and Genetic Manipulation Part1 Full


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeGxqDCTeL0&list=PLB329AC1BF9755DB9

The Irish Origins of Civilization - 1 of 6
25:22 synopsis
35:22 fallacy
1:00:49 Atlantis


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJLIGzm6-uI

Elen
20th May 2016, 08:51
Local legends say that this mountain is manmade and that it's so old that nobody knows exactly how it was built. There is no easy way to explain this via the official sources, as to how and when it was built. It has some similarities to the Great Pyramid of Egypt with chambers, tunnels and height. The study is ongoing…



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWW1uLX3ClY&feature=em-uploademail

Joanna
20th May 2016, 09:28
Local legends say that this mountain is manmade and that it's so old that nobody knows exactly how it was built. There is no easy way to explain this via the official sources, as to how and when it was built. It has some similarities to the Great Pyramid of Egypt with chambers, tunnels and height. The study is ongoing…



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWW1uLX3ClY&feature=em-uploademail

Very interesting, Elen.

Maggie
20th May 2016, 17:52
Local legends say that this mountain is manmade and that it's so old that nobody knows exactly how it was built. There is no easy way to explain this via the official sources, as to how and when it was built. It has some similarities to the Great Pyramid of Egypt with chambers, tunnels and height. The study is ongoing…


Reminds me of an air shaft as in this at Derinkuyu Turkey

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https://theindependenttourist.net/2012/10/15/derinkuyu-underground-city-living-below-in-times-of-peril/derinkuyu-underground-city_turkey-20/

or this one

http://www.lifeofsaturdays.com/wp-content/gallery/139214091under/33%20Vertical%20airshafts%20100s%20of%20ft%20deep% 20punched%20down%20through%20the%20city%20in%20var ious%20spots%20for%20ventilation.jpg
http://www.lifeofsaturdays.com/owe/the-aegean-expedition/turkey/the-underground-city/

and openings at Ellora Caves?

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Maggie
20th May 2016, 18:53
Sylvie is comparing the different sites of megaliths from all over the world. Novusod, she has included your pictures and especially thanked you in this documentary. And from me, thank you.

YES, thanks

This just amazes me
....Megalithic architecture in Montana!!!

Julie and Bill Ryder have discovered and explored the dolmens, megalithic sites, pictographs and petroglyphs since moving to Montana in 1996.

dolmen (http://www.montanamegaliths.com/)

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Elen
20th May 2016, 19:58
Hey Maggie, you have earned a very big thank you from NewEarth and especiality from me...Good stuff all over.

Maggie
22nd May 2016, 06:24
Rudolf Steiner


In the little book, The Story of Atlantis, by W. Scott-Elliot, [Published by the Theosophical Publishing Society, London.] the reader will learn that the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean was once a continent; that for about 1,000,000 years it was the scene of a civilisation certainly very different from ours of to-day; and that the last remnant of this continent was submerged nearly 10,000 years B.C. Details completing those given in that book, and bearing on this hoary civilisation, will be given here. While the outward events of the life of these our Atlantean forefathers are more conspicuously the subject of description in the above work, something will here be said of the soul-life, and of the inner nature of the conditions under which they lived. The reader must therefore go back in thought to a period lying more than 10,000 years behind us, and to a civilisation which had existed for many thousands of years. What is here related, however, took place not only on the continent submerged by the waters of the Atlantic Ocean, but also in the neighbouring regions that now form Asia, Africa, Europe, and America; and what subsequently happened in these regions was evolved out of that earlier civilisation. As to the sources of the information to be given here, I am for the present obliged to be silent. He who knows anything at all about such sources will understand why this must be so; but circumstances may arise which will make it possible to speak on this subject very shortly. How much of the knowledge lying hidden in the womb of the Theosophical movement may gradually be communicated, depends altogether on the attitude of our contemporaries. And now follows the first of the documents which are here to be reproduced.
The Submerged Continents of Atlantis and Lemuria (http://wn.rsarchive.org/Books/GA011/English/TPS1911/GA011_c01.html)



Atlantis and Lemuria: Chapter I: From the Âkâshic Records
Atlantis and Lemuria: Chapter II: Our Atlantean Forefathers
Atlantis and Lemuria: Chapter III: Transition of the Atlantean into the Âryan Root-Race
Atlantis and Lemuria: Chapter IV: The Lemurian Era
Atlantis and Lemuria: Chapter V: Woman in the Third Root-Race
Atlantis and Lemuria: Chapter VI: Humanity Before the Division of Sex
Atlantis and Lemuria: Chapter VII: The Beginnings of Sex Duality
Atlantis and Lemuria: Chapter VIII: Man's First Ancestors
Atlantis and Lemuria: Chapter IX: The First, or Polar, Race
Atlantis and Lemuria: Chapter X: The Second, or Hyperborean, Race
Atlantis and Lemuria: Contents
Atlantis and Lemuria: Cover Sheet
: The Submerged Continents of Atlantis and Lemuria
On-line Rudolf Steiner Documents (http://wn.rsarchive.org/Books/GA011/English/TPS1911/GA011_index.html)


Great Epochs and Their Cultural Ages

The length of each of the seven cultural ages is approximately 2,160 years, this length, as cited above, measured by the precessions of the equinoxes. 2,160 years is the time that the sun takes to pass through each of the 12 constellations of the classic Zodiac, which would make the age of at least our post-Atlantean great epoch 7 x 2,160 or approximately 15,120 years in length. Similar time passage to our day, while slower, may have begun after the middle point of the Lemurian epoch. "Twelve ages ago the sun was in the same position, so that towards the end of the Lemurian epoch there were conditions similar to ours." - Ancient Myths. Rudolf Steiner is here referring to the changes from Aries to Pisces. The change from astronomical "head," Ram, to "feet," Fish, is described by him as an extreme changeover. This occurred in our post-Atlantean epoch between the Greco-Roman and our present cultural age, the fifth.

The great epochs are as follows:

Polarean
Hyperborean
Lemurian
Atlantean
Post-Atlantean
Sixth Great Epoch
Seventh Great Epoch

Rudolf Steiner stated that the final event of the Atlantean cataclysm occurred in the "later ice age," and modern science dates the last ice age to approximately 10,000 years ago. "[The] Atlantean catastrophe occurred in the time commonly known as the later ice age... the last act in the downfall of the Atlantean continent... which continent forms today the floor of the Atlantic Ocean... These happenings lie much less far behind us than is generally believed. The cataclysms completely changed the face of the earth... Of the two earliest following cultural ages [see below] we have no trace in historical tradition. The Vedas are but an echo from those ancient times... During the 2160 years that followed the Atlantean catastrophe [the Indian age] mankind can be said to have been capable of development in a way quite different from what was possible later."

Therefore the final Atlantean cataclysm can be stated to have occurred sometime between 9387 and 7227 BC, when the sun was rising at the spring equinox in the constellation of Leo, which preceded Cancer. For a certain number of years - approximately 773 years until the beginning of the Indian age and to a lesser degree within the first two cultural ages - geologic upheavals would have gradually settled and the preceding periods of time would have been recapitulated. This recapitulation is in accordance with a law of evolution: preceding stages of development must be reviewed or recapitulated before forward progress or further development can begin. - see Occult Science.

The seven post-Atlantean cultural ages:

Indian Age - Crab, Cancer
7227 - 5067 BC

Persian Age - Twins, Gemini
5067 - 2907 BC

Egypto-Chaldean-Babylonian Age - Bull, Taurus
2907 - 747 BC

Greco-Latin Age - Ram, Aries
747 BC - 1413 AD

Anglo-Saxon and Germanic Age - Fish, Pisces
1413 AD - 3573 AD

Russian/Slavic Age - Water, Aquarius
3573 AD - 5733 AD

American Age - Sea-Goat, Capricorn
5733 AD - 7893 AD

It should be noted here again that future ages may proceed at a faster rate of time than is the case today, just as epochs and ages in the primeval past proceeded at a slower rate. In the evolution of humanity, the Indian age is related to the American age, the Persian to the Russian/Slavic age, the Egypto-Chaldean to the Germanic age (our time), while the Greco-Latin age, during which occurred the Mystery of Golgotha, is unique and incomparable.

There were three prior planetary embodiments of Earth, called Saturn, Sun and Moon, and after Earth, in the future, there will be three further embodiments, called Jupiter, Venus and Vulcan. - see Occult Science.

The Polarean, Hyperborean and early Lemurian epochs were closer to a purely spiritual existence and thus cannot be measured by physical science. The Polarean epoch recapitulated the prior Saturn embodiment of Earth; the Hyperborean the Sun embodiment and the Lemurian the Moon embodiment. Generally, the Polarean epoch developed the mineral kingdom, the Hyperborean the plant kingdom, the Lemurian the reptile and lower animal kingdoms, and the Atlantean the higher animals, mammals, and the stabilization of the present-day human form. The nature of life will surely point to many variations, exceptions and paradoxes in these developments, as is true for later periods of time.

How does geology, through radiometric age determination and radiocarbon dating, arrive at the figure of, i.e., 65.5 million years ago (mya) for the Cenozoic era (development of mammals)? This era is believed by Guenther Wachsmuth to equate to the Atlantean epoch, yet Rudolf Steiner places Atlantis much more recently in time, with the final cataclysm occurring approximately 10,000 years ago. Answers begin with: 1. the correct understanding of the relationship of the spiritual ethereal or etheric world - the world of formative forces - with the denser physical world. Can radial effects of spiritual etherisation be measured? Densification of matter is a process of contraction, but this is balanced with radiating or expanding force in equal measure. 2. Suspensions of time or small pralayas, during which the solar system may go into something like a suspended animation, thus enabling the macrocosm to make necessary adjustments; these pralayas are connected with the ice ages, smaller and larger, 3. the fact that there is no past, present and future in the higher spiritual worlds; all are contained within the eternal now. See the section below on Radiocarbon Dating.

At the beginning of the solar system all of the planets, including the Sun and Moon, were united for the coming evolution of Earth and humanity. To assist various Beings, all at different stages of their evolutions, as well as differing kinds of human beings, Saturn, Jupiter and Mars and other planetary bodies broke away from this union of spheres. The Sun departed between the middle and the end of the Hyperborean epoch, followed by Venus and Mercury. These later cosmic processes would have brought the Hyperborean epoch to a close. The causes for these later departures were the same as for the outer planets, as well as the fact that the Moon was bringing increasing solidification. "All human souls would have left Earth, had it not been for the severance of the Moon." However, some Beings remained within the sphere of the Moon for their purposes, including certain highly advanced Beings. - see Occult Science. From the early to the middle period of the Lemurian epoch the Moon was gradually extruded from Earth, from the area that is known today as the world's largest body of water, the Pacific Ocean. - see Cosmic Memory.

Lemuria was located in what is today the Indian Ocean, between the Islands of Madagascar, in southeast Africa, and Sri Lanka, in southeast India. While this continent was turbulent, with dense air, thin crust and many volcanic fires, humanity could survive in certain areas that were free of volcanic activity. Highly developed spiritual leaders directed progress and isolated a small group of Lemurians to be the ancestors of the coming Atlantean race. Prior to the destruction of this continent in fiery volcanic eruptions, this chosen group was led northwestward to Atlantis. Other peoples may have survived on other parts of the globe, and also through additional migrations, such as to Africa and India. The advancements in human evolution which were worked into the Atlantean group would have been gradually transferred to other surviving peoples through their newborn. (more here)The Atlantean Cataclysms and the Ages Following by Martha Keltz
Article by Martha Keltz (http://tcpubs.com/brunnen/articles/)

IMO this lecture series is really worth the time.
It is IMO quite about the underlying awakening to engaging our experience in a world that is influenced by forces
Rudolf Steiner - Inner Impulses Of Evolution - The Mexican Mysteries And The Knights Templar


"This cycle of lectures has always presented some difficulties because of the two lectures on the Mexican Mysteries. In these lectures Rudolf Steiner provides some historical material that cannot be confirmed (...). In particular, there are two major areas where at first sight Steiner would seem to have been in error, and there appear also to be some errors in detail about the characteristics of some Mexican deities cited by name. It is certain therefore that critics of Rudolf Steiner will cite these anomalies and label them errors, in the process attempting to discredit the kind of spiritual investigation engaged in by him. To the best of my knowledge — which is admittedly not complete — in no other lectures given by Steiner at any time are there any comparable divergences from accepted historical fact. (...) It is near impossible to confirm from the historical and archeological material available to us, but there is also nothing in the historical record that can be said to refute it." Stewart C. Easton


Lecture 1: The ancient Greek and Roman impulses.
Read by Dale Brunsvold

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Lecture 2: The twofold Opposition, Genghis Khan, Ancient American mysteries. J. Boehme, A. De Musset. The threefold perception of Jesus Christ. Read by Dale Brunsvold

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Lecture 3: The Atlantean Impulse in American Mysteries, The New Impulse of Modern Times. Read by Dale Brunsvold

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Lecture 4: Occult History, Instinctive Impulses in Human Nature

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Lecture 5: Goethe, Philip The Fair and the Knights Templar

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Lecture 6:Inner Impulses Of Evolution 6 Modern Thinking and the Veil of Isis

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missing from youtube...and is really the 4th lecture:The Rise of Spiritualism. The Need for the Science of the Spirit

http://www.rudolfsteineraudio.com/innerimpulses/lecture4innerimpulses.mp3

Steiner speaks to


Preparing for the Sixth Epoch
A lecture by
Rudolf Steiner
Düsseldorf, June 15, 1915
GA 159 (http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/19150615p01.html)

Earth evolution in the post-Atlantean age was sustained in the beginning by the culture of the ancient Indian period of civilization. This was followed by the ancient Persian epoch — the designation is only more or less appropriate but we need not go into that now. Then came the Egypto-Chaldean-Babylonian period of culture, then the Greco-Latin, then our fifth post-Atlantean epoch. Each of these epochs has, on the one side, to cultivate a particular form of culture and of spiritual life primarily concerned with the external and visible world. But each epoch must at the same time prepare, bear within it in a preparatory stage, what is to come in the ensuing period of culture.

Within the womb, as it were, of the ancient Indian epoch, that of ancient Persia was prepared; within the ancient Persian culture, that of the Egypto-Chaldean epoch was prepared, and so on. Our fifth post-Atlantean epoch must prepare the coming sixth epoch of culture. Our task in spiritual science is not only to acquire spiritual treasure for ourselves, for the eternal life of the soul, but to prepare what will constitute the content, the specific external work of the sixth epoch of culture. Thus it has been in each of the post-Atlantean epochs. The centers of the mysteries were the places in which the form of external life belonging to the next epoch of culture was prepared. The mysteries were associations of human beings among whom other things were cultivated than those cultivated in the outer world.

The ancient Indian epoch was concerned with the cultivation of the human etheric body, the ancient Persian epoch with the cultivation of the astral body, the Egypto-Chaldean with that of the sentient soul, the Greco-Latin with that of the intellectual or mind soul. Our own epoch, throughout its duration, will develop and unfold the consciousness or spiritual soul. But what will give to external culture in the sixth epoch its content and character, must be prepared in advance. Many characteristics of the sixth epoch of culture will be entirely different from those of our age. Three characteristic traits can be mentioned, of which we must realize that they should be carried in our hearts for the sixth epoch of culture and that it is our task to prepare them for this sixth epoch.

There is lacking in human society nowadays a quality that, in the sixth epoch, will be a characteristic of those men who reach the goal of that epoch, and have not fallen short of it. It is a quality that will not, of course, be found among those who in the sixth epoch have still remained at the stage of savages or barbarians. One of the most significant characteristics of men living on the earth at the peak of culture in the sixth epoch, will be a certain moral quality. Little of this quality is perceptible in modern humanity.

A man today must be delicately organized for his soul to feel pain when he sees other human beings in the world in less happy circumstances than his own. It is true that more delicately organized natures feel pain at the suffering that is so widespread in the world, but this can only be said of the people who are particularly sensitive. In the sixth epoch, the most highly cultured will not only feel pain such as is caused today by the sight of poverty, suffering and misery in the world, but such individuals will experience the suffering of another human being as their own suffering. If they see a hungry man they will feel the hunger right down into the physical, so acutely indeed that the hunger of the other man will be unendurable to them.

The moral characteristic indicated here is that, unlike conditions in the fifth epoch, in the sixth epoch the well-being of the individual will depend entirely upon the well-being of the whole. Just as nowadays the well-being of a single human limb depends upon the health of the whole body, and when the whole body is not healthy the single limb is not up to doing its work, so in the sixth epoch a common consciousness will lay hold of the then civilized humanity and in a far higher degree than a limb feels the health of the whole body, the individual will feel the suffering, the need, the poverty or the wealth of the whole. This is the first preeminently moral trait that will characterize the cultured humanity of the sixth epoch.

A second fundamental characteristic will be that everything we call the fruits of belief today will depend to a far, far higher degree than is the case today, upon the single individuality. Spiritual science expresses this by saying that in every sphere of religion in the sixth epoch, complete freedom of thought and a longing for it will so lay hold of men that what a man likes to believe, what religious convictions he holds, will rest wholly within the power of his own individuality. Collective beliefs that exist in so many forms today among the various communities will no longer influence those who constitute the civilized portion of humanity in the sixth epoch of culture. Everyone will feel that complete freedom of thought in the domain of religion is a fundamental right of the human being.

The third characteristic will be that men in the sixth epoch will only be considered to have real knowledge when they recognize the spiritual, when they know that the spiritual pervades the world and that human souls must unite with the spiritual. What is known as science today with its materialistic trend will certainly not be honored by the name of science in the sixth post-Atlantean epoch. It will be regarded as antiquated superstition, able to pass muster only among those who have remained behind at the stage of the superseded fifth post-Atlantean epoch. Today we regard it as superstition when, let us say, a savage holds the view that no limb ought to be separated from his body at death because this would make it impossible for him to enter the spiritual world as a whole man. Such a man still connects the idea of immortality with pure materialism, with the belief that an impress of his whole form must pass into the spiritual world. He thinks materialistically but believes in immortality. We, today, knowing from spiritual science that the spiritual has to be separated from the body and that only the spiritual passes into the super-sensible world, regard such materialistic beliefs in immortality as superstition. Similarly, in the sixth epoch all materialistic beliefs including science, too, will be regarded as antiquated superstition. Men as a matter of course will accept as science only such forms of knowledge as are based upon the spiritual, upon pneumatology.
(continued..............)

Maggie
22nd May 2016, 07:59
Hey Maggie, you have earned a very big thank you from NewEarth and especiality from me...Good stuff all over.

Does this mean Sylvie is looking at our forum thread?
If so Sylvie, I love you!! Thank you!
I love the knowledge being gathered.
And I love that we have this forum and the internet and the wise ones who have unraveled true bits and pieces of truth for us.
The world is a truly beauty full place to be
and the mind is such a wonder
and the body
and the spirit.

lookbeyond
22nd May 2016, 08:24
Thankyou Maggie for the Rudolph Steiner! lov lb

Aragorn
22nd May 2016, 08:34
Does this mean Sylvie is looking at our forum thread?

She might be. After all, we've interviewed her, as you can see and hear by clicking here (http://jandeane81.com/threads/8322-TOT-Interview-with-Sylvie-Creator-of-the-Survivors-Videos). ;)

Aianawa
26th May 2016, 07:22
Best thread on forum for me and I remember back in time when starting to download thread that I skipped a couple of vids, am off to find them now lol before delving into MR Steiner above, big thanks Elen.

Maggie
3rd June 2016, 07:02
Graham Hancock


In this marathon presentation (audio only), Graham Hancock explores Recovering Earth’s Lost Civilization, The War On Consciousness and Being An Outsider! This is from the Chapel of Sacred Mirrors, Wappinger, NY, USA, May 28, 2016.

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bsbray
4th June 2016, 17:14
Can anyone here help me find a copy of Fomenko's "History: Science or Fiction?" volume 6? This is the one that ties into American history but I can't find volumes 5, 6 or 7 for sale anywhere online. I was thinking of calling the publisher and asking about it if they are really that hard to find.

Edit: Looks like the publisher may be out of business. Interesting huh?

Elen
4th June 2016, 18:00
Can anyone here help me find a copy of Fomenko's "History: Science or Fiction?" volume 6? This is the one that ties into American history but I can't find volumes 5, 6 or 7 for sale anywhere online. I was thinking of calling the publisher and asking about it if they are really that hard to find.

Edit: Looks like the publisher may be out of business. Interesting huh?

Me neither, I tried Amazon both US and UK and e-bay. Go figure? Have you tried Fomenko's own website?

This is what the publisher had to say at Amazon US:


From the Publisher
Dear Reader,

The book `History: Fiction or Science?` is a premeditated crime against the community of historians committed by the prominent Russian mathematician Anatoly T. Fomenko. He shows no respect for the blood, sweat and tears of generations of learned scholars who toiled hard for the last three hundred years to erect a magnificent edifice of the Universal History of Humanity.

This mathematician shamelessly pokes hard astronomical data into the reader’s naked eye, raising the dust of valid statistics that distort the clear lines of history completely. Even the authority of school textbooks does not stop him from uttering blatant heresies: he infects millions of innocent souls with pain of doubt. Science can provide for a dangerous toy in irresponsible hands! This madness must be stopped! We implore historians to deploy all means of valid proof that they have at their disposal to destroy the absurd theory of A.T. Fomenko completely. Professional historians will easily surpass him both in method and logic. We are looking for a ¨Terminator3 historian who will put an end to this fresh scientific heresy.

No, Mr A.T. Fomenko, your theories are manifestly wrong; do not even try to convince us otherwise. The history never was, nor will it ever be a science - it is a proud profession. Our publishing house will gladly pay a premium of 10.000 dollars USA in cash to anyone who will prove with adequate methods and in sufficient detail that the theories of Anatoly T. Fomenko are not only preposterous and dangerous, but utterly and inherently wrong as well.

Thank you for your continued support of the Universal History of Humanity.

So what else can he say to remain a publisher...:eyebrows:

modwiz
4th June 2016, 20:30
Me neither, I tried Amazon both US and UK and e-bay. Go figure? Have you tried Fomenko's own website?

This is what the publisher had to say at Amazon US:



So what else can he say to remain a publisher...:eyebrows:

That is a curiously worded statement from the publisher and it does have a smell of CYA to it. They do not refute his method, just its application and implication. Citing "hard astronomical data" and "raising the dust of valid statistics" as critiques is a strange way to attack someone.

Novusod
5th June 2016, 06:44
That is a curiously worded statement from the publisher and it does have a smell of CYA to it. They do not refute his method, just its application and implication. Citing "hard astronomical data" and "raising the dust of valid statistics" as critiques is a strange way to attack someone.

It is a common disinformation tactic that the guilty use when caught red handed. It is basically an admission of guilt and a badge of honor. The quackademics did the same thing to Zachariah Stichen when he published his books.

bsbray
5th June 2016, 07:27
The message from the publisher is obviously tongue-in-cheek and sarcastic: "he infects millions of innocent souls with pain of doubt." They're saying that thinking is too painful for most people, that people just like to take for granted what textbooks say, and were offering $10k to anyone that could prove him wrong. I have a feeling that his English translator/editor typed all that up because the tone and precise use of unusual words is similar as found in the books themselves. They also notated "10.000" with a period instead of a comma, which is something that the Germans and Russians do but no English-speaking countries.

I did look on Fomenko's site and even though I couldn't find a website for the publisher I found a listing that indicated that the status of the LLC was either "inactive" or "non-active," something to that effect, which sounds like they're not paying taxes anymore, ie are no longer in business.

If these volumes (5, 6 and 7) ever really came off the press at all, they seem to have disappeared off of the internet by now, and libraries too. Worldcat.org keeps immense records of which libraries keep copies of books. I searched them for Fomenko's books and again only 1-4 appeared, no 5, 6 or 7 listed for any libraries in their system.

The good news is that I found the same subject matter by Fomenko in earlier volumes on Amazon. The bad news is that it's in Russian, and I can't read it (yet!). There is also some limited amount of information available for free online but not in nearly the same detail as it's presented in the books. I really would not be surprised if these books ticked somebody off and were suppressed.


There's a series of 20 ebooks for Kindle as well, including this one: USA has Issues with Maps of 18th century (History: Fiction or Science? Book 12) Kindle Edition (https://www.amazon.com/Issues-Maps-18th-century-History-ebook/dp/B013B019Z0?ie=UTF8&keywords=history%20science%20or%20fiction%20fomenk o&qid=1465106938&ref_=sr_1_17&sr=8-17)

I'm also starting to see where Fomenko and his colleagues can begin to go wrong. They get their statistical data, which is fine and very uncanny and convincing. But all it shows is that the "histories" of many times and places are drawn from common source documents, for example the "history" of the Roman Empire (ancient) and Holy Roman Empire (medieval) are largely drawn from some common source document. When it comes to interpreting what exactly this means, as far as what must have "really happened" despite the obvious forged documents, as sharp of a guy as Fomenko and his colleagues are, it really is going to take more than some mathematicians to figure that out.

As one example, they found evidence that Christopher Columbus' voyage is subject to forgeries (including the name itself, which appears to be a title or nickname and not a real name -- it basically means "Christian Colonizer" in its Latin/Romance forms (yes, "Christopher Columbus" is only the English rendering, not what he would have actually been called)). Fomenko and his team may have found statistical evidence linking this time and place with some other, I don't know (don't have that volume). But they go on to suggest that he was really a colonizer/military leader from the Russian Horde ("Mongols"). In general Fomenko has a tendency to glorify Russia's past, and since he is Russian that may be subject to scrutiny. I am not going to make a prejudgment on Russia's historical role, but someone should have pointed out that even in the conventional histories, Christopher Columbus was a terrible man who raped and murdered many Native Americans and more or less bragged about it. He let his men run around doing the same things. And Native American populations were undoubtedly genocided. So whoever the guy was, he's no one to brag about having on the home team, not to mention he wasn't the first to discover anything anyway. That's just one example of when we need to start separating the raw statistical data from all these suggestive interpretations.

Aianawa
5th June 2016, 08:35
Was there a 5, 6 and 7 in Russian language and you are looking for it in English and a Beaumont book repeat may have happened, am I up with the play ?.

Elen
5th June 2016, 09:46
bsbray, it seems like this is a work in progress and that they admit that certain books are not being reprinted. (Don't throw them out the window yet.)


There are many books on New chronology. We underline, that New chronology is not yet a long-standing, but a rapidly developing science and the books appear as far as it develops. That's why the books on New chronology until now can't yet be organized into a single common chain, which would explain everything from A to Z without repeats. Nevertheless the authors make big efforts to do this. As a result a SEVEN-VOLUME BOOK "First canon" [CHRON1]-[CHRON7] was created under the common redaction of А.Т.Fomenko, where everything, what was done in the New Chronology before 2002, is stated.
The text of the SEVEN-VOLUME BOOK is fully published on this site.
Moreover, there is search inside it in a window on the top of this page.
But at the moment the Seven-volume book already doesn't cover everything, what was done in the New chronology.
If we speak about all the books on New chronology, some of them already went out of date and are not republished any more, some of them repeat the previous ones in a renewed and revised view, some of them present popular or shortened expositions of the other books, some of them are full-color illustrated editions.
Nevertheless today it is possible to mark the books that can be conventionally called "GOLDEN RANGE". Starting from 2006 they are issued in a golden color covers (with the only exception of "Christianization of Russia", which was issued in a dark cover). These books were written "in the wake of" our studies and contain ONLY NEW developments (except the edition "Russia and Rome", about which will be written below).
At the same time, "golden" books (except "Russia and Rome") are not written for initial study, as they suppose some knowledge of the reader with the principles of New chronology and with the published earlier "Golden raw" books.


A full list of the printed books on New chronology – including those which are not re-issued any more – could be seen at the link <<List of books on NCh (including not re-issued) >>.
Below on this page all the books on New chronology, which are in sale at the moment, are presented. At the top we place announcements about new books when they are issued.

Elen
8th June 2016, 11:27
This is a new series of documentaries about ancient cities and cave dwellings in Spain. I will not make a new thread for it, but blend it in with all New Earth's Atlantis videos, keeping everything together.

I don't know how they are panning out at the moment as there seems to be a new set of rules with publishing. Will keep you posted...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JoEeTyyfio

Elen

Novusod
10th June 2016, 06:44
This is a new series of documentaries about ancient cities and cave dwellings in Spain. I will not make a new thread for it, but blend it in with all New Earth's Atlantis videos, keeping everything together.

I don't know how they are panning out at the moment as there seems to be a new set of rules with publishing. Will keep you posted...

Elen

Some of the ancient Spanish cities are at least partially recognized as official history.

I stumbled upon this Wikipedia article a few years ago. The site is called Los Millares. (City of Millers)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Millares

It is 1000 years older than the Pyramids and Stonehenge:
Interesting Model the site:
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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a4/de/3d/a4de3d5c54e4fd423f59017201d7c2fd.jpg
Detailed close view of one of the round buildings"
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Lower level interior:
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Yet another round building:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/0f/87/a8/0f87a8afc840b8a97d15a1ca2a85487a.jpg

The articles I have seen on this leave a lot of unanswered questions such what civilization built Los Millares. It is a city without a civilization attached to it. Very bizarre. I am glad Sylvie is looking into this more.

Elen
10th June 2016, 07:13
The articles I have seen on this leave a lot of unanswered questions such what civilization built Los Millares. It is a city without a civilization attached to it. Very bizarre. I am glad Sylvie is looking into this more.

Thanks for posting, I'm sure Spain has a lot of information to offer.

Maggie
10th June 2016, 08:19
Graham back at TedX.
18 minutes.
Must have been very hard distilling his message to a few minutes....

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