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Aianawa
19th July 2015, 04:30
Came across this site a couple of years ago while researching my ancestors in Scotland and Ire ( O'mor ), > http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Crests.htm

http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Crests_3.htm

With DNA etc giving us such strong evidence of late, for human history being incorrect, this may be an interesting discussion.

Also researched the red haired albino's in India as a starting point.

Aianawa
20th July 2015, 07:45
The research done is amazing, the amount of black peoples sent to USA from Ire, Scotland etc as slaves was more than the amount that came from Africa, who knew, the albino/white peoples beginnings totally make more sense for myself now also and great to see all the updates since I was last at the site, shows more truth is coming out all the time.

bsbray
24th July 2015, 15:51
Black people might have inhabited Europe in the past, but I don't think albinism explains white people. Whoever came up with that idea doesn't seem to have thought it through very well, and it actually sounds racist to me. The website you link to has interesting information but if you go to the main page, it's painting everything literally in white vs. black terms. And as always, anything you read anywhere should be compared and contrasted with all the other info you have on any given subject.

All forms of modern man as we know it could be relatively recent. Neanderthals were around not that long ago, what are called "Cro Magnon" often do not have the right cranial proportions and other characteristics to fit modern man, there are all of those elongated skulls without separate cranial plates from South America, skeletons of 7 to 12 foot giants found all over the world, and also legends from all over the place about an ancient race with blue blood and/or skin. The people who occupied Atlantis were probably not even human as we understand that word today. A lot of fairly blatant manipulation that evolution cannot possibly explain in so short a period of time has been going on in the last several thousand years.

bsbray
24th July 2015, 16:17
I was reading more on that website and this guy pretty obviously has an axe to grind, just judging by the tone that he uses throughout the pages.

Also he's claiming that Charlemagne was black, which would imply that the Franks were black (he was king of the Franks and from a Frankish family), and by extension the Romans and/or German tribes (because the Franks were themselves a romanized German tribe). Charlemagne was crowned the first Holy Roman Emperor in the year 800, so this is only about 1200 years ago. We have bog bodies surviving from older times and they were white people with red or blond hair. Anyway, at some point you have to stop and think. There are a lot of white people in the world today, and they didn't just appear overnight. Albinism would not explain why white people exist at any rate, because there are still black people today who have albinism and it does not turn them into Caucasians, nor does the trait pass onto their children.

Aianawa
26th July 2015, 22:58
Yes, axe indeed, I have just about completed the entire site now ( been working a lot of late ), and it gets a big thumbs up from me and explains much for myself around our true history, while it is obviousely not complete and I disagree on some theories, the site is disclousure imo, a big piece of the puzzle/s, there are many going down the same avenue in research and science is continuing to back a lot of this material up.

Would add that I did not read as much as I thought when I first came upon site as was researching only one aspect within it and also more has been added over the last couple of years, mostly a science approach. The albino, especially the differing types imo makes it obvious they are on the right track.

ZShawn
2nd August 2015, 15:03
my humble opinion is that pedigree and ethnicity don't matter at all, just another herring across the trail, when all that really matters is sentience
if you are alive and are sentient, then you matter, very simple really.
The fact that people get territorial dependent on outward distinguishing features has really helped to muddy the trail of history.

bsbray
2nd August 2015, 16:46
I personally don't think that we would have these distinct races in the first place if there wasn't some kind of genetic manipulation going on by other species. I don't think modern man as a species would exist if not for tampering of some sort, as there are a lot of dramatic differences between modern man and a lot of kinds of skeletons found repeatedly from the recent archaeological past (giants with 6 fingers and toes on each hand and foot and double rows of teeth, skeletons with elongated skulls, wider and larger skulls in general, larger and thicker bodies in general such as Neanderthal).

This is one of the biggest reasons (but not the only one, as I gave others above) why saying white people have just turned albinism into a racial trait somehow doesn't make sense to me. There are not just white and black races. There are a larger variety than that, whose origins cannot be explained this easily. If evolution could have explained the races then scientists would be all over that, and it is already assumed by scientists that white people descended from black people, so there is no reason for them not to go there. The problem is that the data that scientists have accumulated doesn't really support that theory, and they can't make the data fit any kind of evolutionary theory in so short a time in general.

And there was much more incredible variety in human-like species that are now extinct, from very short "pigmy" races in Indonesia, to giants of various sizes that have been found all over the world. Many of the varieties of ancient man, including Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon, not to mentioned the people with elongated skulls, had larger brain capacities than any race of modern men. There is too much to go into in a single forum post, but there is plenty of circumstantial evidence all pointing to ancient genetic manipulation of the human race such that it has become a common talking point in alternative circles, and plenty of contactees and abductees who have come away from their experiences with the same information.

ZShawn
2nd August 2015, 17:10
this article gets into the issues surrounding the whole "out of africa" theory and presents evidence that shows it is mostly imagination, not firmly based in facts.
http://wakeup-world.com/2013/12/16/dna-evidence-debunks-the-out-of-africa-theory-of-human-evolution/

personally I lean towards the ideas that as a species we have had a lot of genetic manipulations in the past and that we did not evolve on this planet.

Aianawa
2nd August 2015, 23:39
I feel our suits/temple's/bodies evolved on this planet, probably many differing human types and the best was selected for our process, the albino side of things would imo be part of the evolving process but yes also a sub species as such in the bigger picture. I certainly see how Divinefemenine ( hope I spelt that correct ) our member who is researching the red hair arkeytype etc found a crack in the matrix maybe.

Aianawa
3rd August 2015, 01:15
my humble opinion is that pedigree and ethnicity don't matter at all, just another herring across the trail, when all that really matters is sentience
if you are alive and are sentient, then you matter, very simple really.
The fact that people get territorial dependent on outward distinguishing features has really helped to muddy the trail of history.


Imo removing herrings like this helps with clarity in history which in turn can help people see the the sense of forgiveness in area's around racism, incest/inbreeding, cultural indifference etc etc, we are all one I agree, with some disturbing mind songs from history that imo need clearing and clarity.

ZShawn
3rd August 2015, 01:39
petty prejudice has always been a common theme played on to keep differing people groups at odds with each other
this is power politics in action, the whole, divide and conquer doctrine

Aianawa
3rd August 2015, 06:31
Spose I see it as a form of disclosure, can see how you see it as a divide and conquer matter and almost anything available new wether it be advanced human peoples or a differing historic structure concerning albino and black peoples origin, can be used this way.

bsbray
3rd August 2015, 17:24
I'm curious Aianawa, do you watch the big corporate media channels where you live?

If you do, do you take all the stuff they say for granted? And if you don't watch them, then why not?

Aianawa
5th August 2015, 06:44
No Bsbray, I keep abreast as such though. I was very fortunate to meet and live with a partner about ten years ago who showed me how the media worked and many truths from 9/11 to conditional and unconditional love, she was a genius and wise ( helpfullll her being 12 years older ), who also taught me mayan cosmology to the point I could teach it ( minor micicle in my book ), may I ask why your curious.

bsbray
5th August 2015, 06:58
Well the reason I ask is because usually if people don't watch MSM anymore, there was something, somewhere along the line, that made them say, "Where the hell do these people get all of this stuff?" We turn to the alternative media, online websites and videos and this sort of thing, and it's an excellent source of information. But the same mental filter that makes us question MSM should still be in place with everything we come across in alternative media, and I think it's important to keep an open mind but still question everything thoroughly.

In this case I'm keeping an open mind, but a lot of the stuff from this website doesn't seem a lot different than the kind of claims made by MSM. Anyone can claim a conspiracy and cover-up and say that their evidence is being suppressed by authorities, just as anyone can claim that all Muslims are evil terrorists, but that deserves scrutiny too. In this case this guy is saying that there has been systematic "whitenizing" of medieval depictions. Again, easy claim to make, something else to back up, and I really would like to see the whole mental process here. This would be a massive undertaking, and when would it have started? When did Europe suddenly become white as it is today, if even the Franks were black? How quickly could darker-skinned civilizations be totally outmatched in terms of making babies without even many mixed descendants as evidence? Wouldn't there also have to be a systematic genocide to get rid of the non-whites already here, and wouldn't think also be testified to in histories somewhere, even if only in the Middle East or northern Africa? I can keep an open mind but if these questions can't be resolved in a way that makes sense then all we have is a theory that seems to have issues with it.

Aianawa
5th August 2015, 07:21
The questions to your second part are within the site, some make sense while others would mean one heck of a lot of work being done by many to cover up, and again look at what Cromwell's relative did, destroyed up to 97% of old and ancient history in Scotland etc, they said it was a religious thing but maybe it was cover up, at least get one thinking lol,

Am a researcher as such and feel this needs lots of researching to validify of course but lots of material around the albino side of things is so so interesting.

anyone wondering, I am white as such. lol or albino

bsbray
5th August 2015, 07:30
The questions to your second part are within the site, some make sense while others would mean one heck of a lot of work being done by many to cover up, and again look at what Cromwell's relative did, destroyed up to 97% of old and ancient history in Scotland etc, they said it was a religious thing but maybe it was cover up, at least get one thinking lol,

Destroying records is one thing, destroying people is something else. As big of an undertaking as "whitenizing" so many medieval depictions would have been, what about actually genociding all of the non-whites? If the Franks were black and even most of the rest of Europe up until that point, these people would continue to live, write, marry, and make babies, until they ceased to exist. You have about 1000 years from the time of Charlemagne to accomplish all of this until people start taking photographs, and I haven't seen any claims yet that the photographs from the 1800's were also "whitenized." The slave trade started even sooner, in which whites were obviously degrading black populations in Africa based on the color of their skin, implying a difference already 200+ years before the camera was invented. Do you recall exactly when during this 1000 year period the author of that website says that the whites genocided all of the non-whites living in Europe, and what kind of evidence points to this?

Aianawa
5th August 2015, 11:11
Three or two generations can see a black white start become white, also from memory it was in two stages.

The 30 years war saw a huge male drain, around the 50% mark over two generations.

You may find that a very high % of African slaves did not go to America maybe 90% or more.

the above is from memory.

bsbray
5th August 2015, 17:17
Three or two generations can see a black white start become white, also from memory it was in two stages.

The 30 years war saw a huge male drain, around the 50% mark over two generations.

Two major problems with this that I can see right off the bat. First is that this war is in the 1600's, while the African slave trade had already started in the 1400's and 1500's, involving the French as well. This is just way, way too late in history to be trying to replace a continent of black people with white people, without unimaginable efforts.

Brazil has been a mix of white, black, and native peoples intermarrying for hundreds of years, since this same colonial/slave trade period to be precise (same general time as the 30 Years' War, even a little earlier), and they did not all turn white, either. Only about 50% of their population is white. Why didn't they all turn white, if you say it only takes a couple of generations for everyone to turn white? I would ask what kind of albinism this is exactly that becomes a dominant trait and is passed on to all of the children as to make an entire race in only a few generations, but that would be pointless, because there is no such recognized form of albinism and it's just an assertion made by the website.

The other problem is that the 30 Years' War was a war, not a genocide, and as many casualties as there may have been, you still have the problem that millions of black people would inevitably be left all across Europe, and unless the claim is that they were all genocided, then the best case you could hope for to support this theory is that Europeans would look like Brazilians today.



You may find that a very high % of African slaves did not go to America maybe 90% or more.

the above is from memory.

Brazil and the Caribbean took more of the slave trade than North America but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

ZShawn
6th August 2015, 02:28
what is bizarre is why this issue of skin color and genetics is such a big issue....
sure there are variables in color and genetic disposition.... but it doesn't matter at all what color anyone is or what pedigree one might have, be they descended from common ditchdiggers or royalty... while it is a fascinating topic and I am by no means denigrating anyone here at all by voicing this thought, it is just that this occurs to me as being a very critical point in our interracial relationships to not bother to really consider race as any kind of issue at all, kind of like eye color, no body is making a big deal about categorizing folks based on eye color.....
for what it is worth.
cheers.

bsbray
6th August 2015, 02:45
In the US a lot of black history has been twisted to make black people feel as if they are not as intelligent or capable or whatever is convenient for TPTB. In that way history is powerful. Africa still today is considered by many people to be some backwater where mankind first came from, but then never looked back. But medieval Africa had cities just as beautiful and advanced, if not moreso, than what was going on in Europe, and not just along the Mediterranean coast, either. The development of civilization in Africa was unfolding in parallel with the rest of the world up until that point. But then during the colonial era, Europeans rolled in with a vengeance and the history of Africa seems to have been twisted and rewritten ever since then.

So even though I agree that someone's race does not in any way put restraints on what they are capable of, no matter what race it is, the disinformation that people put out to smear whole races has been used time and time again to disempower whole chunks of humanity in one swoop.

ZShawn
6th August 2015, 02:52
So even though I agree that someone's race does not in any way put restraints on what they are capable of, no matter what race it is, the disinformation that people put out to smear whole races has been used time and time again to disempower whole chunks of humanity in one swoop.
which is why we ought to just consider people as being sentient and alive, and not have any real regard for racial considerations.
It always tends to get dicey when race is brought into the equation...
I do agree though about how our species has been divided and pitted against each other over matters that are only issues to small minded bigoted folk, who see any difference as being something to get all worked up and angry about.
All people of all types are incredible and awesome

bsbray
6th August 2015, 03:01
which is why we ought to just consider people as being sentient and alive, and not have any real regard for racial considerations.

Imagine you have a girl who was abused by her parents as a kid for years, and she has lots of psychological problems because of it, and your solution is to tell her just to stop thinking about it and to move on with her life. Things become ingrained in the subconscious. They can't be solved just by ignoring them. They have to be dug back up and worked out through some kind of process.

In a culture where there has been a long historical presence of races being played against each other and slandered, this kind of thing goes deep into the minds of everyone caught up in it, and not just the conscious mind. Even when black and white people interact in many parts of the US today, they don't have to talk about it, and in fact it usually doesn't get brought up anyway. Because it's still an awkward situation. Not always, but a lot of the time. I don't think there has been enough social dialogue. There are still a lot of things to work out, and to just stop talking about it is not going to address that.

Over the last few generations things have gotten much better, but not for everyone trying to avoid even bringing up race, and pretending that it doesn't exist. There has been a lot of struggle and a lot of pushing of boundaries that have been very uncomfortable for some people to push.


In regards to the website in the OP, I see someone who is just being reactionary to this type of environment. Things are being taken beyond pushing for a recognition of equality, to all white people being presented as having skin disorders and apparently only taking over Europe within the past 400 years or so and then rewriting history all over the world apparently from that point on. This guy can think what he wants, but I can't make any sense at all out of the historical narrative he's trying to present for Europe, for reasons I've been giving above.

ZShawn
6th August 2015, 03:58
I am very familiar with this type of scenario, being of mixed european heritage and I lived for a dozen years on a reservation in Northern Alberta.... so I got to see and experience first hand.
Some folks there were completely consumed by hatred for anyone who was white, although they would be civil and polite when out and about, but with anyone who came onto their rez, well, that was another story and the bile wasn't restrained at all...
then there were those who would accept others who weren't native if they proved to be ok in their books and it was kind of like passing the gauntlet on a new job or being taken in by the locals who would then stick up for you if they deemed you to be an alright guy.
and then there were some ( quite a minority though) who, didn't really care anything at all about a persons lineage, just what kind of person they were.... some of the elders were of this kind and they taught me a lot...

I think that forgiveness and compassion are 2 very important things for people to develop and work with....
how that could possibly occur given the way many people seem to be is a good question.

Aianawa
18th August 2015, 08:39
Why do this > http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Crests_2.htm ?

ZShawn
18th August 2015, 14:19
it seems that there have been revisions to history based on the presented evidence of that site .. to wit, that people of african/moorish descent were in society in various positions, yet their pictures have been altered to serve a racial agenda

Is this true?
That is a good question.... if it is true that there were some people of dark complexion (black/brown) whom had their visages altered in paintings to appear as being of pale complexion then this is indeed a matter, not very big as far as issues go, but still a discrepancy which apparently matters to some people....
the rehashing of old wrongs is likely endless and is wearisome to see.

If it is not correct as claimed then it is just more distraction and disinformation and ought to be ignored.

bsbray
18th August 2015, 17:54
Why do this > http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Crests/Crests_2.htm ?

That's a good question and I already have a guess, but I'll have to check it out in more detail. The earliest known inhabitants of Scotland (the Picts) were described as "wee dark men" and had a lot in common with the Algonquin tribe of natives in North America, and passed on words into the Celtic languages that took their place that still resemble Algonquin words.

Aside from this, the English really were destroying and rewriting a lot of history by the 1700's, including the suppression of the history of the Welsh kingdom (the original British kingdom, older than the English, who possible migrated out of the Middle East/Asia Minor around 600 BC or so as per Alan Wilson's work). I'm still not sure what to make of all this as there are lots of theories and points of view and a lot of information to look over. The information is not straightforward, either. It's like a detective novel that never gives you the answer and everyone has to figure it out on their own based on lots of clues.

Jengelen
18th August 2015, 19:41
Ancient cultures, Japan, China and parts of what is today Turkey all point to the cause of the 'ax to grind' mentality is built into all of us in our biology. Let me explain.

Since we were all built, as in designed to produce a subtle energy, as described by Montach my own site my blog, and even the Ruiner we produce this subtle energy via our reactions using our emotions. These in turn produce real neurons firing real voltages that can be measured coming off you! These in turn feed some and are collected by others in mass events of 'shock and awe' which is the mantra of the planet.

As described earlier in previous posts we are stimulated via the mass media and more through each other in daily life through every waking moment of our lives. He who controls the mass certainty creates their own reality and that is how this all holds together. We are programmed from day one of awakening to react and believe certain things, all designed to twist us in knots you see to produce more of this energy. Then in turn genetic defects were built in, all 4000 plus from Spina Bififida to mongoloid children are made that way to cause more stress energy off the keepers all the life of the vessel they use.

Now keep in mind these relationships are consensual as we all knew this coming in. Knowing this we can now understand that what the ancients say is accurate in all likelihood up to the peak of their knowledge in the Hermetic texts and more preserved by secret societies.

Let us examine some of the things taught by ancient people. Blood type as skin color and culture difference, yes even confounding the language both spoken and the archaeoastronomical language laid on the ground at one time was all removed to add to this energy output. Blood types are different according to Japanese, Zuni, Chinese and other cultures still to be input by the various gods responsible for each race. Each one contributed their own uniqueness to our make up. We were a common language and all so similar but not enough loosh so what do they do? They dumb us down, removing those too smart, the ones with 13 cranial nerves instead of 12 like Brien Forestere is finding.

Then we are changed by blood type and skin and more to divide us not to be cruel really but to produce conflict and animosity between certain chemistry. Something well known in Japan even today apparently as blood type is often known by them and asked for on work applications. They want this to properly assign them so they are only working with chemistry they do not collide with. This collision is real, some do not mesh well usually due to this and not knowing why some people just really get under their skin.

We have situation there that prevents certain blood types from marrying or even working together due to this. God, the progenitor made us this way to fit into the garden scheme. Fight or flight is built into the life cycles here as is shock and awe in storms taking out paradise and earthquakes sinking islands, and tsumanis wiping out cultures entirely at times from flood and more all due to production of the one and the same energy we all give off every day.

So no one should feel guilt about those feelings when someone gets under their skin. It is likely explained in one of these ways. In the same way I described dolphins feeding on mackerel chasing them to make them leap from the water you have to realize the orbs I see around wolf packs, fish schools running in panic, as well as rabbits running from dogs are all feeding off this same energy. We too need this energy and its why we have the soul contracts we have with each other in our own circles both growing and learning together as we go through this cycle as well as those on the other side that walk with us with shared interest in and shared use in the very vessel you think is all yours!

Most of us have company all the time and any of that company can and does share in the body vessel experience without your ego ID even really being aware of it except in most of the more severe cases. Step ins are more frequent than walk ins. The walk in typically stays longer. Step ins walk in at just the right moment to hit that gas instead of the brake saving your behind in a traffic situation or other such quick hardly noticed inspirations and/or moves in life. Anyway, this animosity is the same between ants as it is us humans and its because as I said, its as above so below. We are not exempt from having to produce here. In fact we are the number one producer!

Jengelen
18th August 2015, 20:10
Also, not trying to leave you in the dark seeing it as some sinister thing. Again we are consensual producers. We do this and get all caught up in it, we argue, we love, we sit on the fence, we motivate to great heights or deep lows and it all seems so real. Its not. In time after leaving this vessel you actually have to try to remember what it was like to have hands, to walk! Stay out long enough in the astral you have to sort of relearn these things even now with a vessel. This is not sinister. Its a play act. After its over we think and dwell on certain scenes and certain events that stick with us like emotional high and low points during any great movie but in the end we have no more attachment to it than the beings feeding on us do now. From the other side looking in as the true orbs of awareness we are we see it for the reason its here, why we come, and its all about this energy this garden creates so well its now been reproduced many times in various ways all over creation! We as the light orbs of awareness that we are, being everywhere and no where at the same time can partake of all of it and we do.

Aianawa
20th August 2015, 09:20
Spose for myself, I desire the big picture around the why's and what for's, was not something I was looking for, it just turned up in my research of ancestry.

Aianawa
12th May 2016, 21:58
Given so much talk of made up timelines, dynasties even lol, of late, I am doing a wee bit more research on this thread material, especially the dark ages timeline period, bumping also.

Aianawa
3rd June 2016, 08:26
Just started reading this and feel to add it here as is along the same lines as thread, did you know the statue of liberty was meant to be a black woman but USA tptW made them change it to a white woman. >

http://www.eurweb.com/2015/10/history-of-the-california-blacks-nation-califians-khalifians-the-first-americans/

Elen
3rd June 2016, 08:55
Just started reading this and feel to add it here as is along the same lines as thread, did you know the statue of liberty was meant to be a black woman but USA tptW made them change it to a white woman. >

http://www.eurweb.com/2015/10/history-of-the-california-blacks-nation-califians-khalifians-the-first-americans/

Looks really interesting Aianawa, but I cannot get the link to work. My pc crashes every time. I had a short glimpse of it though. I don't doubt this is true, thanks.

Aianawa
7th July 2016, 20:05
I can get through try again, is very interesting.

Aianawa
24th August 2016, 23:17
Yes , northern Africa > http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/North_Africa/North_African_History.htm

Dreamtimer
25th August 2016, 16:07
I just mentioned the Berbers, and they're written about extensively at realhistoryww.

I really hate learning about how impressed we were with the American Indians and how we just decimated it all. There's nothing redeeming about the story.

I recall growing up and learning that Jesus wasn't really white. My parents explained that the church gives the people images that they're comfortable with, and that reflect the culture and society they live in. Jesus usually had brown eyes in the images I saw. When I see blue eyed Jesus images I just want to :rolleyes:.

We saw the eradication of vast stores of knowledge with the destruction wrought by Europeans in the Americas. And that seems to be a worldwide phenomenon, destruction of and rewriting of history.

I've heard several different people in recent years talking about how much blacks have been written out of history and of course the same can be said of women.

Knowledge is power. Can understanding the patterns of destruction lead to the perpetrators?

How can we regain the knowledge without warring over it?

Maybe that proverbial data dump is intended to create such a problem.

Aianawa
17th December 2016, 07:29
Makes one wonder > http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-muurish-soldiers-of-imperial-japan-black-japan/

Aianawa
17th December 2016, 10:33
Very > http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-untold-history-of-jamaica/


I'm embedding the YouTube video here Aianawa...

The Truth About Jamaica and Jamaicans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l_eVdplODI

Aianawa
23rd April 2017, 09:28
Within this Out of Aussie vid > https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/10876-Out-Of-Australia < they claim through science, DNA etc that white came from black, giving this thread content a wee boost of imo we is all one

Dreamtimer
7th July 2017, 00:38
I think this can go here. Well worth the listen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpXfgVypEw

At 57 min he speaks of the spirits who see everything you do from the very start of your life. I recall being a little girl and being uncomfortable because of the invisible people watching me. I would dress in the closet, but near the threshold.

Aianawa
7th July 2017, 09:34
Nice, looks like i will enjoy, watch when able, ta

enjoy being
7th July 2017, 22:43
Thanks Dreamtimer.
That was one of the better things I have listened to on here so far this time 'round.
Finally some cleaner truth.
It fits in with the notion a few have of different races being seeded in different places of the world over time, and not just a singular cradle.
I have always appreciated the Australian wisdoms as they really do have a certain clean vibration about them. So many other cultures upon recital can have grey bits of fog and bluster come to the surface is what I mean I think.

Dreamtimer
8th July 2017, 11:37
You're welcome. I think I'll give it a second listen myself. I was doing things while listening and was distracted at points.

Elen
8th July 2017, 11:56
You're welcome. I think I'll give it a second listen myself. I was doing things while listening and was distracted at points.

I would welcome it in my thread as well as I find it full of useful info.

Aianawa
10th July 2017, 15:29
Still finding time to watch this, got a feel that China and Russia are going to drop some herstory truth that will damage some collective false history.

Aianawa
9th August 2017, 07:11
I think this can go here. Well worth the listen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpXfgVypEw

At 57 min he speaks of the spirits who see everything you do from the very start of your life. I recall being a little girl and being uncomfortable because of the invisible people watching me. I would dress in the closet, but near the threshold.



Finally finally properly into this vid and have the time, enjoying.

Aianawa
26th August 2018, 06:08
Likely white or albino was a mutation etc from black peoples imo with lots of other variables, like how races link etc plus what star systems or galaxies other human type groups come from of course, science is getting closer imo but slowly.

Dreamtimer
26th August 2018, 10:36
Albino is not the same as white. Albinos have genes which block expression of other genes. White people aren't white because of this genetic mechanism.

White people do produce melanin, just not as much. And there are three kinds of melanin.

To say that white people originated from albinos is wrong. Humans develop, adapt and evolve according to their environments.

In addition, we still barely understand genetics. There are all kind of factors which influence hair, eye, and skin color.

A genetic survey of people in a room would find genetic similarities where the physical appearance is quite different. You might think two people are close because they look alike, and they might be the most genetically different.

Aianawa
5th April 2019, 00:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEgLydYluyc

Emil El Zapato
5th April 2019, 00:26
it was neanderthals, denisovans, and 'ghost' races, as well...I think albinism is genetically more common in Africans...at least it is more obvious... :) I think his hypothesis is generally closer to current science regarding location, he is going off the rails, however. Homo heidelbergensis blended with neanderthals and denisovans who had a long term history of exit and entrance from/to Europe and Africa. Later, the native Africans (Heidelberg) did their thing along the way and entered Europe at a more recent date as 'equal intellects to more modern humans. Physically different in the fact that they were less robust than the later versions of Neanderthals that they intermingled with in Europe. As modern man existed literally all over the world in the neolithic they began to diverge in phenotypic presentation as Middle Eastern, East Asian, Australoids, Native Americans and, of course, European.

Aianawa
5th April 2019, 01:37
Hi NAP, that sounds real wiki from you, yes ?.

Emil El Zapato
5th April 2019, 11:36
Hi Aianawa,

Though, I do see Wiki as the one true source, I diverged from it out of a real interest in cultural anthropology. One thing I've learned is that CroMagnon is not quite a misnomer but it does lack any real genetic qualification in scientific terms (in search of truth regarding Maggie's video post from the other day). And current science, relatively that is, can't quantify skin color in neanderthals, heidelbergensis, CroMagnon, or denisovans. Translated that means all of the above could have been black or white which kind of counters my longstanding belief that "out of Africa' meant blackness...oops! The 'ghost' race that I referred to relates to 'unidentified' gene sequences in today's humans. There is nothing that categorically discounts anything stated in your video or Maggie's. :)

Dreamtimer
5th April 2019, 18:46
Humans' hair color comes in a huge array of shades. Much of that has to do with what we like when we look at each other and who we reproduce with.

Skin color is logically an outcome of the environment people are living in, both natural and cultural. Our genes provide a wide array of possibilities in terms of how they express themselves. And a lot of it depends on the environmental triggers. It's a complex process.

The ideas of race related to skin color don't have much value scientifically.

Emil El Zapato
5th April 2019, 20:50
true, it doesn't...which if one REALLY stops and thinks about that...it couldn't open up a lot of new neural pathways.

Aianawa
6th April 2019, 00:01
Wee bit of new data since back when > http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Video_list.htm

Aianawa
7th May 2019, 02:36
Interesting, n put it here for now >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGBms4QMY4&spfreload=10

Interesting, n put it here for now >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmD99uAOmH4

Emil El Zapato
7th May 2019, 15:00
Before watching this video I want to make a comment:

Why is blame necessary? I guess the central question is going to be one of reparations? One thing is true, the legacy of the United States both pre and post slavery involves a denial of shared resources to blacks/African Americans whose transgenerational effect is one of an inability to accumulate wealth like most citizens. In my opinion, reparations COULD at least be considered.

Aragorn
7th May 2019, 15:16
Before watching this video I want to make a comment:

Why is blame necessary? I guess the central question is going to be one of reparations? One thing is true, the legacy of the United States both pre and post slavery involves a denial of shared resources to blacks/African Americans whose transgenerational effect is one of an inability to accumulate wealth like most citizens. In my opinion, reparations COULD at least be considered.

But then you might want to bring the Native Americans into that picture as well... :whstl:

Emil El Zapato
7th May 2019, 15:21
good point but for the most part they weren't owned...but yeah, that is a good question. Thing is, where the mistreatment of AA was blatant and open...the mistreatment of Native Americans after the initial takeover, anyway, was more subtle (since the Revolution days) and the gradient of mistreatment is well acknowledged among the 'others'.

Dreamtimer
7th May 2019, 16:51
Reparations come in large measure from actual promises which were made and then broken. For example, "Forty acres and a mule".

The parallel with Indians is the treaties which were broken. The case for reparations is parallel.

If the two could join forces for such things, they might get results. That is very difficult since both groups suffer from deep poverty, drug/alcohol issues, and no opportunity.

Black people did have businesses and thriving communities up until de-segregation. The blowback from that was to target black people, churches and businesses. They were literally burned down and the folks were beaten, dragged, etc. It's a rather sad and ugly history.

Nowadays, a dollar stays in a black community for only minutes. The businesses take it out.

A dollar stays in a white community for two weeks. It's a huge economic difference.

Emil El Zapato
7th May 2019, 17:08
interesting points, DT...

One of the things that became obvious to me early on (high school) that even the 'others' are unwilling and unable to join forces. More examples of the clueless actively working against each other.

Aianawa
5th August 2019, 06:18
Of interest enough to add here >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN2E3hs2ktM

Chester
5th August 2019, 16:03
If the planet is controlled by a sub group within humanity which some like to refer to as "the elite" and, if so, is this sub group ensconced in the "religion" known as Luciferianism (as some believe to be the religion of "the illuminati" (another word that is used to point to this same sub group)... see this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107192-What-exactly-is-a-Luciferian-Initiation&p=1294012&viewfull=1#post1294012) over at PA of Angelina Jolie's video when she was 23) then I wonder what might be the "racial" makeup of this group?

Please read carefully my next sentence so you understand how I am using the term "racial."

I am using the term "racial makeup" - I prefer to use the term "DNA commonality of genes relevant to one's psycho/spiritual heredity" and not all non-relevant factors such as skin color, hair type and color, etc. - as it would be broken down by actual DNA linkage to a "truthful" past.

I ask this because I think it would be interesting to know if that actual racial makeup was reflective of the current global reality or, if skewed in any way, which direction? In addition, if skewed, how much is the imbalance?

Bottom line - I would like to know percentages for both the current global reality and the Luciferian elite as to actual DNA makeup.

Aianawa
5th August 2019, 21:39
Mmmmm feel we volunteered then hand selected, feel we have done this before many times hence our selection, the less than 1% may be the actual solution and need for this petrie dish.

Chester
5th August 2019, 22:06
Mmmmm feel we volunteered then hand selected, feel we have done this before many times hence our selection, the less than 1% may be the actual solution and need for this petrie dish.

The view I like to take is that "I," as a soul, play (at the very least) a co-creative role as to "that" which I appear to incarnate within. Having said that, the vehicle within which one might (at least) "co-choose" to incarnate within may very well have genetic influences that make the choice a challenge. Yet also, I could see souls that, at their current location in their eternal* soul journey might favor a view that emulates degrees of sociopathy and/or psychopathy and/or narcissism and/or megalomania and/or savior complex who then might at least co-choose to incarnate in a vehicle within a lineage that provides advantage such as wealth or status or culture or location of birth and then various other types of externals such as skin color or gender, etc.

And so I do chose to view my incarnation as a choice (volunteered) yet within a set of circumstances that could on the one hand provide additional challenge and yet on another hand could appear advantageous. Still, once a soul enters the game (the material realm game I mean), the hand they choose to be dealt, how the cards fall for the rest of the players and then all the new hands one plays after that first one make the game quite interesting, yes? Certainly not boring.

*eternal if desired, as I choose to believe a soul could choose to merge into eternal Oneness at some point in their journey.

Aianawa
10th August 2019, 08:16
Nice view indeed Sammy.

Aianawa
10th August 2019, 08:30
As for Black USA Indians > Dane goes into this >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKdbZglu1jU

Emil El Zapato
10th August 2019, 13:12
Interesting story but it is a conflation of 'the one drop test' and the concept of 'Indigenous'. What is the definition of 'indigenous', in this case, Native Americans. Are mestizos indigenous or something else. I can pretty categorically state that indigenous people from the United States do not define 'mestizos' as native american, anymore than European Americans consider 'mestizos' European due to their heritage. It isn't by its nature a bad thing to explore such issues as in this video but it doesn't paint a realistic picture of history. It just confuses the legacy of slavery and the legacy of European colonialism of Native Americans. A positive for descendants of slaves but not much else.

Elen
11th August 2019, 08:11
Nobody can actually claim to know that our history is true...we have forgotten and lost contact with the story-tellers. All we have now is "his story."


:fire::magic::fire:

Dreamtimer
11th August 2019, 12:39
At modern pow-wows, it can be difficult to be recognized as native and thus be welcomed to dance or drum when you're half black. I've known several folks who have difficultly, essentially because they look black.

The whole blood quantum thing was just as much of a mess as was the one drop rule.

Bogus and confusing. DNA tests have not been used as a replacement. They end up adding more confusion because the metric used for so long was so different.

Emil El Zapato
11th August 2019, 13:02
True enough, DT... :) At the same time it is sad...I think anyone should be asked and allowed to drum...really, why, oh why do we insist on division...Isn't 'Oneness' the goal...lol...only in the mind's fantastical musings.

Dreamtimer
11th August 2019, 13:24
I'm still fascinated by this guy (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107192-What-exactly-is-a-Luciferian-Initiation&p=1308081&viewfull=1#post1308081). He has done research which goes beyond my imagination.

Aianawa
13th October 2019, 10:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEgLydYluyc


I'm still fascinated by this guy (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107192-What-exactly-is-a-Luciferian-Initiation&p=1308081&viewfull=1#post1308081). He has done research which goes beyond my imagination.

I enjoyed a good exchange with them when I visited there, same thread, liked them.

Emil El Zapato
13th October 2019, 14:44
North African

Go far enough back and you end up around Southern Europe/Northern Africa AND Neanderthal tribal regions

The Gods are always white...

Aianawa
14th October 2019, 01:27
Nope, usually wise or manipulators, magic seeming due to either either.

Empowering is calm.

Aianawa
21st December 2019, 07:03
This needs to be here as well as the tartar thread, obviousely more people awaking to wtf is his-tory


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk4waWBjuM4

Emil El Zapato
21st December 2019, 10:56
Actually, this is the story I was taught...no lie?

Elen
24th December 2019, 08:28
This needs to be here as well as the tartar thread, obviousely more people awaking to wtf is his-tory


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk4waWBjuM4

Super interesting connecting of dots!

And NAP you lie! :blink:

Emil El Zapato
24th December 2019, 13:28
No, I don't...the moors as depicted in this video are my only memories of them. :noidea:

Elen
27th December 2019, 09:32
No, I don't...the moors as depicted in this video are my only memories of them. :noidea:

I apologize!

Emil El Zapato
27th December 2019, 13:57
no need to apologize, but I do wonder why you thought that, apparently you were serious. I suspect that European history taught in Europe has flavors of Texas history taught in Texas. Really no big deal...

I watched this Ted talk the other day about lying. According to the presenters we all lie...which is true.

Dreamtimer
29th December 2019, 14:34
If we're not our thoughts, who is responsible for our lies?



It's good to be an autodidact if one has an open mind. If one dismisses things out of hand, no amount of self-education will suffice.

Deliberate ignorance leads to a little knowledge being a very dangerous thing.


(it's weird to me that he didn't know how to pronounce Don Quixote. I wonder if he knows the phrase 'tilting at windmills')

Aianawa
2nd December 2020, 08:25
https://theafricanhistory.com/256?fbclid=IwAR11lvecWMfrxGT-nA8XLkJoJTXvT9r36rSUwZJhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QBBx9tFDpU&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3exGeHPsjqYWvWv-MyKwWJzM2ZVMrJjZvDRTOAqZQUr26s2Y_AJyQO7doN1kx6ldAu 5u20Mg0MBwc


Interesting indeed

Aianawa
11th December 2020, 06:40
Thankyou Modwiz for this, will add here also >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5F4MjV4KSI&feature=emb_logo

Emil El Zapato
11th December 2020, 13:43
lol ... if you want another imaginary perspective watch the series 'American Gods'

What is interesting though, is the level of animosity and friction regarding African Americans trying to appropriate the native American history and genealogy. I'm pretty neutral actually, I don't prescribe to racial or ethnic disagreements unless they are externally imposed. This is not factually or historically accurate, it is way out of proportion to African and Native American histories.

interbreeding is a 'diffusion' process, not a wave ... :)

Aianawa
25th September 2022, 09:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3h-oePZtoU

Aianawa
25th November 2022, 18:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mkvv4AZzuM

Xlent researching here