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jimmer
16th July 2015, 16:00
I understand we normally don't link to other blogs, but this is too choice.

103 UFO videos – busted, including techniques and names.

a couple had me scratching my head. now, no more.

click the image below and scroll to the very bottom page and let the fun begin.
see how many fooled you.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/Screen%20Shot%202015-07-16%20at%20%20%20%20%20July-16-2015%20%20%208.38%20AM%20_zps9e9v6rec.jpg (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1075375/pg1)

Steve
16th July 2015, 19:08
The author of that thread seems cool and motivated to become a REAL UFOLOGIST. He has another recent thread, massive, on the links of remote viewing and ufo's. Lots of information on the Aviary group of early ufo researchers with links to military and intelligence, some of whom happened to be involved in, and in Richard Doty's case, behind the Project Serpo hoax. Oh, Bill Ryan was part of "The Five" ... Someone should assign Bill a bird name since he might have been in a British Intel Aviary group... more likely he was into mind control even before Serpo. Meh, wtf am I talking about. Just musing.

But yea, good thread by Isaac Koi, who's a Barrister from England, I hear.

mojo
16th July 2015, 19:44
The author of that thread seems cool and motivated to become a REAL UFOLOGIST.

This appear true to me as well. The only problem is the website. A major source of disinfo and not to be trusted, sadly. I wish the individual would find a more open platform. Maybe we should build our own thread? I would be up for helping but would love to see someone else establish it. Im too close to the subject matter and would have to remove myself from bias. But I definitely could post about other sources that arent reliable.

mojo
16th July 2015, 19:45
We could build of the established ones he posted...plus websites and channels like secureteam 10...

jimmer
16th July 2015, 20:11
The only problem is the website. A major source of disinfo and not to be trusted, sadly.


I tend to agree, although some wise posters hang there.
so, oh, well. let the buy beware, as usual.

some mad research was done by that fellow. bravo.

Steve
16th July 2015, 20:14
Major source of disinfo? probably more so several years ago. That also gives the long time members, some really great minds, a better discernment skill. ATS doesn't compare with Avalon as a source of disinfo, where Bill, mods, and sanctioned "personas" spin up the tales told by their revolving pedestal parade of circus clowns pretending to be in the know, with a couple of REAL disinfo agents to boot (or in plain site, at the top, wearing an old hat).

Disinformation ... It can happen on any forum, sure, since those agents are well trained to fool even the most experienced investigators and "light workers", I guess and gather from recent history. So weird.

Steve
16th July 2015, 20:16
Isaac's other thread


Remote viewing & UFOs : Stargate, Galactic Federation + the Aviary (CIA index + 92,010 PDF pages)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1074447/pg1

jimmer
16th July 2015, 20:18
Disinformation ... It can happen on any forum, sure, since those agents are well trained to fool even the most experienced investigators and "light workers", I guess and gather from recent history. So weird.

I agree. that's why burrowing in too high is a losing proposition.

like john keel has said, sit back and enjoy the show and see where it all goes.

Outlander
16th July 2015, 21:55
The only problem is the website. A major source of disinfo and not to be trusted, sadly.
But also a major source of info - just like GLP. The fact that there's a lot of bs posted means you've got to make up your own mind about what is and what is not disinfo.

Just like everywhere else on the www.

jimmer
16th July 2015, 22:28
ok, back to the subject at hand.

was anyone shocked to discover the origins of
the 'patrolman getting zapped' video.

I had stared at that thing countless times and
always came away puzzled.

that has to be one of the most convincing fables, ever. (and there have been many)

Outlander
17th July 2015, 00:25
imo, the older the pics/vids, the more believable they are.

The Best UFO Pictures Ever Taken (1870 - 2010)
http://www.ufocasebook.com/bestufopictures.html

World UFO Photo Gallery
Click on 'Gallery'
http://worldufophotos.org/site/#/gallery/ufo-photos/

jimmer
17th July 2015, 13:31
so, anyone have their favorite or most infamous hoaxed ufo video?

mine has to be the 'cop zapper'.
" the video was one of the "Promicin" series of online videos
created to advertise a new season of the science-fiction series "The 4400"."

this one always wowed me. no we know its origin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u81Nk1gN8ao

"these "UFO" videos were produced by Malaysian production company Director's Think Tank
as part of a science-fiction themed advertising campaign created by Leo Burnett for Petronas
(a Malaysian energy company) and AMG Mercedes (which has its headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany)..."

mojo
17th July 2015, 18:58
Don't like to admit that I was hoaxed and the turning point for me was this video that thirdphase posted. It looked so real and close to the biological entity craft that were observed in Oregon when they were coming close and near the ground. I still feel that the craft coming here are bio-mechanical all these years later. So thirdphase reallly fooled me. Someone did an analysis on this video and was shown to be a hoax. It was then that I started to voice my feelings in the forum and at Avalon about them. Malc was in the mix giving his support about outting thirdfake and the rest is history. Thirdphase asked to use my July 25 2013 footage and I shot them down. Every since they have nothing to do with my channel & evidence even though today they supposedly collect the best evidence from around the world.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggAaWosgESM

jimmer
17th July 2015, 20:35
Don't like to admit that I was hoaxed and the turning point for me was this video that thirdphase posted. It looked so real and close to the biological entity craft that were observed in Oregon when they were coming close and near the ground. I still feel that the craft coming here are bio-mechanical all these years later. So thirdphase reallly fooled me. Someone did an analysis on this video and was shown to be a hoax. It was then that I started to voice my feelings in the forum and at Avalon about them. Malc was in the mix giving his support about outting thirdfake and the rest is history. Thirdphase asked to use my July 25 2013 footage and I shot them down. Every since they have nothing to do with my channel & evidence even though today they supposedly collect the best evidence from around the world.

yes, that's a very tricky one and congrats on not responding to those charlatans.

with this thirdphase video, I knew they were a crock.
this is one of a series of really bad cgi alien sightings they pawned of as legit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnnDvnmDvbE

Outlander
17th July 2015, 21:33
so, anyone have their favorite or most infamous hoaxed ufo video?

UFO orbs over Hawaii 2013


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds_L2ovuDCs

jimmer
18th July 2015, 14:32
UFO orbs over Hawaii 2013

that's one was good as well.

the tip off:
scene is deep in the wilds.
the background sfx: busy downtown.

sinzzer
24th July 2015, 12:36
Il explain the dutch problem.
There are two major groups domaniting the UFO report center.
One site is UFOmeldpunt, if anyone wants to report something.
The he get a warning firts.

The warning is.
If you saw a red or orange light, then it must be a balloon.
If you see a flying star, then it must be the ISS??
That means you dont need to report them!

And if your report goes further, the he wil get bombard by debunkers.
This is one of the biggest platform in the Netherlands.
Here check it out and see for your self.
Click on report UFO lol
http://www.ufomeldpunt.nl/

Another group domaniting the field is UFOspottingnederland.
These guys are very organized.
They hold contests and come in magazines, and are with a big group.
They want people to join there groups and then dismiss or debunk there footage.
They are also very infiltrated in international groups on facebook and become friends with many people who own groups.
And then use the data they find in there groups, and then debunk it for the dutch people.
The captin of this group call him self Dennis Leroux, he is said to me that he is ex airforce.
But i know that in the Netherlands its hard to get in the airforce, and you almost never get out.
Those jobs are for life.
So the facts are, that guy claimed to be ex airforce and is debunking almost everything what has to do with UFOs against the dutch people.

They also claimed to have videos, and they use videos of members.
They mostly put videos of the moon or the stars or some satellite or some airplane flying pass the moon.
And once a while a UFO video from a guy with a orb high in the sky.

They also have a hoax video and sended that video to my latest UFO site.
That is this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo5gXMj_hrU

This video is filmed in a room.
You can even see the corners of the room, the closet and a lamp.

http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/18/70/67/10/dennis11.jpg

And they claimed that it was a UFO.
A few weeks ago i had a confrontation with the captin of that group, dennis leroux.
He attacked me when i posted a video and came with the same claims as last year, when they also attacked me.
But last year i was not prepared, this time i was prepared.
So i turn the tables around and called him a hoax, because he was using this video and claimed that it was a UFO.
his answer was, that it was sended to him.
Then i said, if you cant even see that.....

So bottomline is, in the Netherlands is a Huge propaganda war against UFOs.
And am in the middle of it, because i also claim to see them.
but am standing against them like David against a army goliath.

But the difference is, am telling the truth and they not.
And more in the Netherlands see there actions.
So the problem in the world with hoax videos and debunk groups, is very good represented and organized in the netherlands.

jimmer
30th July 2015, 00:02
does anyone have the low down on this video?

let's see:

no sound

the orbs seen to be blown by the wind

no independent, sentient movement

other than that, seems legit :eyebrows:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIG8TwyV_qE#t=26