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MrCasual
28th June 2015, 22:15
This was a great show tonight...

http://www.oymradio.com/show-archives-mp3-format.html

Rocket's Mom
28th June 2015, 22:20
Listened to the last hour. . .saw the chat room. . a few interesting questions were posed: if 900 civilizations "customers" are buying tech from the slave colony "sweat shops" what does that day about those 900 civilizations? Who is really out there???

Love how the energies are opening minds and now more folks are waking up!!

SmokeyJoe1952
28th June 2015, 22:23
A direct download link would be appreciated

Rocket's Mom
28th June 2015, 22:28
Mr Casual posted it: Enjoy!!

http://www.oymradio.com/show-archives-mp3-format.html

Windancer
28th June 2015, 23:07
Hmm can not get it to play. I am trying everything, including downloading, oh...wait....it is downloading...took a while to....start....never mind!
thanx

Rocket's Mom
29th June 2015, 00:47
I have been thinking about this for a while tonight. . .there is so much rhetoric about us doing our work raising our vibrations here on earth. Don't get me wrong -- I agree -- I need to raise my vibrations. Why are we not talking about 900 supposedly advanced civilizations in our galaxy that purchase technology from a slave camp? This just does not resonate with me. Who are they and from where do they come? This just does not make sense.

URIKORN
29th June 2015, 02:36
I have been thinking about this for a while tonight. . .there is so much rhetoric about us doing our work raising our vibrations here on earth. Don't get me wrong -- I agree -- I need to raise my vibrations. Why are we not talking about 900 supposedly advanced civilizations in our galaxy that purchase technology from a slave camp? This just does not resonate with me. Who are they and from where do they come? This just does not make sense.


It may make sense if:
option 1: this is a way to keep the operation profitable and therefore to gaurd the life of the slaves until freedom day
option 2: they are a-moral or selfish
option 3: some do care others don't


I remember now that Corey speaks of a rogue faction of the positive SSP Aliance that attacked and ruined
some such facilities at the cost of much death of the slaves there.

Most of us, including myself, in my estimation, are not really confident that ET life exist at all, and even more so, that
there is a direct contact, for thousands of years, and more.
We have lot's of info, stories, rational arguements.
The distance between the emergence of a possible new (to us( reality in our consciousness and the full blooming of that
possibility into a tangible / certain reality in that very evolving consciousness, that distance we are covering these days.
900 civilization is just one stone being thrown into our consciousness lake.
Tomorrow it may be 100000.
In the meantime each of us, individualy, has his own consciousness boiling on the stove.
The more we shall realize our peculiar sutuation, that is, consciousnesses in transition, the more objective
and worm hearted we can navigate in participate in the process

There is an essential difference between being intellectually and emotionally drawn to a subject
and an immersion into it, or, immersing the subject into our consciousness.
Some, in this community are still in the intellectual/emotional/secondary-self circumfrance of
life. Others, are diving in.
This process is highly individual.
The road into real connection, with oneself and others, goes through a point of total seclusion/oneness/privacy/ego core.

This is not social connection as we know it.
It is on/in a deeper layer of reality.
Many know the right words. Not necessarily knowing/daring to implement the content of the words.
Words are valueable due to their ever expanding content

The greatest discovery we can make is in the field of consciousness / soul.
And it is the most needed.
It is our chance in time that our ever existing challange - knowing ourselves - coincides
with info regarding intelligent life in the universe.

URIKORN
29th June 2015, 04:37
This was a great show tonight...

http://www.oymradio.com/show-archives-mp3-format.html



I like your avatar
It speaks to me in person

mojo
29th June 2015, 07:37
I want to believe, both Wilcock and Corey have knowledge beyond anyone sharing. I like both of them personally but I want them to be in our shoes for a second. What would they ask of people with this knowledge? Would it be something like, "help me confirm your testimony." There are literally hundreds of UFO videos on youtube also ET sightings. Why havent they said something like, "Oh thats the such and such species and the craft they use. Or confirm past contactees experiences, like Bud Hopkins, or the Italian friendship case or Carlos Diaz case or many of the others. But nothing and no photo or video evidence. When I hear their testimony Im blown away, I just want to see supporting evidence that will help corroborate. And before Im accused of a paid troll I want to share my own personal experiences but refrain because I wish to stand on the evidence for the most part. Thanks again and thanks to them for their interview.

bstuart
29th June 2015, 09:17
DW was difficult to listen to, but Corey did a decent job. Wilcock takes up a lot of the time with his self-glorification spiel--how amazing his psychic powers are--how he was chosen by important entities--how he is the reincarnation of Edgar Casey--how he wrote this really important book that we should go buy--how he was awarded an honorary degree from some University that he's too busy to claim... etc.. ad-nauseam. Ugh. If someone would edit all of that out, it would be much better.

Also, apparently Corey is doing 52 epi$ode$ now on Gaiam TV. I suppose I don't find that surprising though.

URIKORN
29th June 2015, 09:50
I'm only 40 minutes in so far, and I'm finding it rather difficult to listen to. Corey has been clear and concise, which I appreciate, but DW has been grandstanding and stroking his ego for over 5 minutes about his psychic powers--plus how he is the reincarnation of Edgar Casey etc. Oi vey...


I agree with your noting of the difference between the two.
Corey feels to me to be a man of deeper substance and humility.
I suggest, however, regarding David, to take him as a very talented boy that did not complete yet his maturing.
I am patient with him, while learning from him, and being grateful too

lift the veil
29th June 2015, 14:12
Here is the youtube version for those who like them better than the MP3 format.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-1IdUObFQA

Jengelen
29th June 2015, 15:02
DW has taken the classes. He obviously there for a little while on Ancient Aliens went overboard with the hands and gestures which made the learning obvious. He obviously met some key players in media and promotion there as now its all biz model and sales. Its all sales. Maybe I'm biased being a salesman for 22 years before retiring. I think its obvious to any other trained sales person. He does all the right things now unlike the old days before AA. For example he now references all his own material and promotes self. The days of gestures of helping other light seekers by references to them as well as other mentions are always only top key names, no longer the unknowns, and he also does all the little tells of self promotion in the subtle but obvious ways as he speaks. All stuff I think he learned from the same kind of classes politicians take to sway and convince audiences and so on. Do you really think Hilary knows anyone in that audience? Come on! Its an act to get votes and money just like Davids. Same school and same zoo animals just different parts under that same umbrella as far as I can tell.

Oh and its not about the proof you guys! Don't ya know... roll eyes here! LOL
I find it interesting that so many shows today go on and on about how worthless the dollars are and how inevitable the collapse is and yet the entire show is always about them garnering those 'worthless' dollars. Isn't that irony for you?

ctiger2
29th June 2015, 15:25
I have been thinking about this for a while tonight. . .there is so much rhetoric about us doing our work raising our vibrations here on earth. Don't get me wrong -- I agree -- I need to raise my vibrations. Why are we not talking about 900 supposedly advanced civilizations in our galaxy that purchase technology from a slave camp? This just does not resonate with me. Who are they and from where do they come? This just does not make sense.

Or what about the 300+ Million United States waging illegal wars around the world slaughtering millions including women and children and who purchase goods from countries who use child slave labor to produce the cheap good they buy? They also run the global monetary system where wealth is transferred from poor and destitute people from around the globe so they can have a living standard much higher above their means. They also continually elect the worst of the worst sociopaths as their leaders. Surely the people that live in the United States can not be trusted. What if you were told there were over 50 Million civilizations and 900 of them were buying, would that change the perspective?

bsbray
29th June 2015, 17:47
I clicked a few minutes into the video to hear what they're talking about, and it was around 29:30 where David Wilcock starts talking about the Great Pyramid and apparently now he's saying that the Blue Avians built it.

Wilcock relates a story about Napoleon going into the Great Pyramid which is probably not true either, but a British fabrication against Napoleon. The whole story is that he supposedly embraced Islam and pronounced that Mohammed was God's prophet before entering the pyramid, but Napoleon's private secretary in Egypt (which was a military campaign, remember, so this is not an office job), Louis Antoine Fauvelet de Bourrienne, stated that these were fabrications and that Napoleon himself never even entered the pyramid, but sent in others to investigate instead. Napoleon was very tolerant of other religions and the British seized upon this to criticize him, still nominally being defenders of Christianity themselves.

Rocket's Mom
29th June 2015, 18:05
C Tiger:
Great point. . .I suspect I assumed too much in thinking that earth was the least civilized of all planets and that other civilizations that have the advanced technology are also a higher vibration. It was this presumption that was incorrect. There are users and abusers everywhere, it seems. That was a wake up for me. Thanks for your nudge to help me see that!

Hugh Mann
29th June 2015, 22:15
There's nothing wrong with asking questions, wanting evidence or proof to back up a story. How many times have we all been screwed because of gullibility? I look at it like this. I believe nothing unless I see it with my own eyes but don't discount it altogether. Another words, I don't believe anything but wouldn't be a bit surprised if this was true. I know the criminal government(s)/corporation(s) have no boundaries as to how low they will go to maintain their kung-foo grip on humanity and not wanting to share their toys.

On the other hand, we have been told everything is possible, if it can be imagined, it exists somewhere...

mojo
29th June 2015, 22:40
There's nothing wrong with asking questions, wanting evidence or proof to back up a story
Right on bro... On another site (you can guess) they are not very receptive to the testimony. At least here we arent attacking the messenger, but looking into the account. I do hope an answer can be forthcoming, and not looking at the peoples character at all. The testimony is not a one pager but multiple accounts and with a decent history. There has to be some way to show some validity...dig deep...look for a way to corroborate. After all their have been many prognosticators come and go with amazing stories. Remember Pane Andov? When a story as large as the knowledge base claims it begs for supporting evidence. A document, a piece of unknown metal, someone else to back up the story, a photo, a video, some unknown knowledge that can be verified later by others. There's a ton of ways to go so have to wonder why? Because personally would need some proofs knowing how people would want to see.

Shadowself
30th June 2015, 12:51
I clicked a few minutes into the video to hear what they're talking about, and it was around 29:30 where David Wilcock starts talking about the Great Pyramid and apparently now he's saying that the Blue Avians built it.

Wilcock relates a story about Napoleon going into the Great Pyramid which is probably not true either, but a British fabrication against Napoleon. The whole story is that he supposedly embraced Islam and pronounced that Mohammed was God's prophet before entering the pyramid, but Napoleon's private secretary in Egypt (which was a military campaign, remember, so this is not an office job), Louis Antoine Fauvelet de Bourrienne, stated that these were fabrications and that Napoleon himself never even entered the pyramid, but sent in others to investigate instead. Napoleon was very tolerant of other religions and the British seized upon this to criticize him, still nominally being defenders of Christianity themselves.

Blue Avains built the Great Pyramid? :belief:

Well It's official....David has run out of material (or lost his mind) and is now making this stuff up as he goes along. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but that is quite apparent with this latest "reveal".

R U Sirius David?

ERK
30th June 2015, 16:25
Blue Avains built the Great Pyramid? :belief:

Well It's official....David has run out of material (or lost his mind) and is now making this stuff up as he goes along. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but that is quite apparent with this latest "reveal".

R U Sirius David?


Exactly. Everything somehow in David's land gets tied to Blue birds and L/L . I am calling BS on it all.

Jengelen
30th June 2015, 18:24
Really? So why is there pictures all over inside some of the places there in Egypt showing people of color building the pyramids and of various heights also but all of them have dark skin! These are pictures painted on walls! So they certainly had white colors but they show tall men of color of various faces and sizes building it themselves which flies in the face of this latest reveal.

Blue orbs have been seen on the reservations. Well, without getting into my wife and I worked in the Indian Health Service. We lived on several reservations and live near one now! Blue orbs have been seen more in Arizona than in the other areas we lived in Dillingham, AK, and in the north west for a while as well as New Mexico and Colorado. We can say without doubt something blue is seen there on these lands and for that matter they are just as often orange and red.

Lets look at the history we know before we jump to conclusions. The real bible before the consonants had vowels added to change the meaning of what it conveyed seems to say that 5000 BC or earlier something or someone was flying a ship and distinctly hovered over water with it. In the Vatican Lexicons they put the neoglisms to list further info on the definitions and we find several references to confirm this view. Something was being hovered in the air over water being flown by a pilot 6000 plus years back. So if this is an accurate depiction since we don't know how it was verbalized, we have to take it serious.

Especially in light of this reveal and also in light of the fact that the Vatican puts for us as I said in it's very own Lexicons Recentis Latinitatis published by the Liberia Editrice Vaticana where they insert the Latin neologisms you'll find that the Vatican inserted "navis sidraelis which means basically airship or 'starship'.

They inserted aeria navis, airship for sure if you have any doubts to the first, and they inserted aereus viator which is astronaut or at the least we would have to conclude the Vatican is saying 6000 plus years ago a pilot was flying something hovering over water! !!!!!And they inserted the acronym R.I.V. which means res inexplicatae volantes, that is, UFOs! So UFOS existed then, why not build something while there!?

Ciauzar
30th June 2015, 18:39
The blue avians built the house I used to live in as a kid. I swear, it's the truth. :rolleyes:

bsbray
30th June 2015, 18:54
Really? So why is there pictures all over inside some of the places there in Egypt showing people of color building the pyramids and of various heights also but all of them have dark skin!

As far as I know there are no depictions of anyone building the 3 largest pyramids in Giza, and neither are there any inscriptions or hieroglyphics in them except for 2 instances (that I know of anyway), one being an inscription in an unknown language above a doorway and the other being fraudulently painted by an early British team on 3 walls of a room, painted in red straight out of a common book on hieroglyphics from the time, even including the exact same grammatical errors in it. They painted on 3 walls of the room because they had blasted through the 4th one with dynamite the previous night. Sitchin detailed this whole affair in one of his books, I think The Twelfth Planet.

These pyramids were probably built around 10,500 BC or so, and all the lesser pyramids that are already eroded and falling apart around their bases at a later time by the ancestors of the original builders. So there may be depictions of people building the smaller ones but I have never heard of any depictions of the larger ones being built.

Also they have obvious alignments with Orion's Belt and Sirius, which is probably a clue in itself. A very early (and very accurate) Egyptian calendar was actually based on the rising of Sirius, so their whole year was calculated based on its movements in the sky. Then you have the Dogon people not too far away who said fish-like beings landed in one of their lakes in an egg and got out and told them about their stars, and that Sirius had a companion star orbiting around it. This is an ancient tradition of the Dogon but modern science didn't confirm it until something like the 1970's.


They inserted aeria navis, airship for sure if you have any doubts to the first, and they inserted aereus viator which is astronaut or at the least we would have to conclude the Vatican is saying 6000 plus years ago a pilot was flying something hovering over water! !!!!!And they inserted the acronym R.I.V. which means res inexplicatae volantes, that is, UFOs! So UFOS existed then, why not build something while there!?

Sounds like I've found a fellow Mauro Biglino fan. ;)

mojo
30th June 2015, 19:41
I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater because some of the observations witnessed in Oregon are simply too amazing. Likely if shared it would be difficult to accept for some. Therefore there could be a lot to the testimony on spheres and blue entities. So my question is how can it be possible to get the evidence needed? I must admit that I havent followed all the information so maybe somebody heard a way to help me believe. And I forgot the category of military records. When I was in the Air Force there was a paperwork trail for everything. Was any paperwork provided? Here is another side of the coin, if there is no evidence than only two possibilities remain the person giving the testimony is very brave and ready to accept the large ridicule to follow or the story is a fabrication for other purposes. If if there was a milab psych operation to control info it's still very brave to speak out.

Jengelen
30th June 2015, 19:50
As far as I know there are no depictions of anyone building the 3 largest pyramids in Giza, and neither are there any inscriptions or hieroglyphics in them except for 2 instances (that I know of anyway), one being an inscription in an unknown language above a doorway and the other being fraudulently painted by an early British team on 3 walls of a room, painted in red straight out of a common book on hieroglyphics from the time, even including the exact same grammatical errors in it. They painted on 3 walls of the room because they had blasted through the 4th one with dynamite the previous night. Sitchin detailed this whole affair in one of his books, I think The Twelfth Planet.

These pyramids were probably built around 10,500 BC or so, and all the lesser pyramids that are already eroded and falling apart around their bases at a later time by the ancestors of the original builders. So there may be depictions of people building the smaller ones but I have never heard of any depictions of the larger ones being built.

Also they have obvious alignments with Orion's Belt and Sirius, which is probably a clue in itself. A very early (and very accurate) Egyptian calendar was actually based on the rising of Sirius, so their whole year was calculated based on its movements in the sky. Then you have the Dogon people not too far away who said fish-like beings landed in one of their lakes in an egg and got out and told them about their stars, and that Sirius had a companion star orbiting around it. This is an ancient tradition of the Dogon but modern science didn't confirm it until something like the 1970's.



Sounds like I've found a fellow Mauro Biglino fan. ;)

A priest I knew in Illinois told me about that first but he also informed me of Mauro yes, whom I looked up later to read only to have to learn the language first.

See here and let me know what you think as it looks pretty legit to my eyes regarding the pictographs or whatever of giants and dark people doing the work. I recognize that some of the pics are fakes for giants tho. Rekhmire Tomb....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZCfVJhAMsk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCjZiGqo0wk

bsbray
30th June 2015, 21:45
Thanks for the videos, Jengelen. I'll have to read up more on Rekhmire Tomb. I have no doubt that ancient Egyptian depictions show giants, as there as many instances of human-like beings in two distinct sizes being depicted, even in some scenes of violence or warfare.

The depictions clearly show them involved in some kind of construction work, yes. I just wonder how specifically they could be linked to the 3 largest pyramids in Giza, because this tomb seems to be in the Theban Necropolis complex which is 310 miles or 500 km to the south down the Nile River. Ancient Thebes had a lot of colossal buildings of its own, and there were other pyramids constructed at a later time than the main 3 at Giza that did not use the same construction techniques. Those three pyramids at Giza also had no hieroglyphs of their own, which should be a red flag to historians.

One interesting thing to keep in mind is that even if a giant is much taller, that doesn't necessarily make them that much stronger than a personal of normal height in proportion, because of materials physics. For example an ant can lift many times its own weight, but if you make a column of that same material that an ant is made out of, that column will not be able to hold the same number of times its own weight because the strength of the material does not increase proportionally with size increase. There is some relation but it's not linear because while the size increases, the strength of the bonding between the molecules in the material itself stays the same. Same with human bones and muscle. Because it is (presumably) the same physical material on the molecular level making up the bone and muscle, those molecular bonds will tear, snap or otherwise break at some point less than what you would expect to be proportional based on the height increase.

Having said that, some alien-looking skulls have been found in Central America (like the elongated skulls) that are made of a much tougher kind of bone than modern humans have, so there's no guarantee I can even compare giants with modern humans as I am above.


Also when you say you had to learn the language to study Biglino's stuff, you don't mean to tell me that you learned Italian just to read/listen to him do you? :shocked:

I just watched video presentations on YouTube with subtitles...

Jengelen
30th June 2015, 22:01
Hmm. Italian? No the book I read after being informed of it by my priest friend was in Latin which I had in high school also so just brushed up on and that book belonged to a friend of mine, a fellow 'x' holy man when he was a Benedictine monk. He probably bought it in India as it was hand bound and he spend some time there before coming back to the USA but he may have received it like he did many things from other holy men when and where he was one of the Ambassadors that greeted and escorted other holy men when they were visiting the USA. He was a diplomat there before mother Teresa's death changed him but that is another story.

AscensionQuest
1st July 2015, 19:28
Blue Avains built the Great Pyramid? :belief:

Well It's official....David has run out of material (or lost his mind) and is now making this stuff up as he goes along. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but that is quite apparent with this latest "reveal".

R U Sirius David?

I hear the Annunaki built the Pyramid of Giza. Then they put a crystal on top to create a beacon.

The beacon is for the Spaceport located on the Sinai Peninsula.

The One
1st July 2015, 19:42
I hear the Annunaki built the Pyramid of Giza. Then they put a crystal on top to create a beacon.

The beacon is for the Spaceport located on the Sinai Peninsula.

I remember an event that was supposed to take place in 2000 with world leaders at egypt but got canceled http://www.robertbauval.co.uk/articles/articles/gpfm.html

Not sure what truth there is to it though.

Was the great pyramid always without a capstone/Crystal or was it stolen, destroyed, etc.No one knows but the accounts of visitors to the pyramid from the ancient past (as far back as the time of Christ) always reported that the pyramid lacked a capstone. It is possible that it was never finished. Could the capstone be the key to the pyramid to get it to work (interesting)

When the pyramids were originally finished, they were plated in and outer layer of white “casing stones”. These casing stones were cut with astounding precision to give a smooth slope to the pyramids, unlike how they appear today with the outer stones more or less forming very large “steps”.

The original casing stones were made of highly polished Tura limestone, meant to reflect the sun’s rays, and were accurate within 1/100th of an inch

AscensionQuest
1st July 2015, 19:43
It may make sense if:
option 1: this is a way to keep the operation profitable and therefore to gaurd the life of the slaves until freedom day
option 2: they are a-moral or selfish
option 3: some do care others don't


I remember now that Corey speaks of a rogue faction of the positive SSP Aliance that attacked and ruined
some such facilities at the cost of much death of the slaves there.

Most of us, including myself, in my estimation, are not really confident that ET life exist at all, and even more so, that
there is a direct contact, for thousands of years, and more.
We have lot's of info, stories, rational arguements.
The distance between the emergence of a possible new (to us( reality in our consciousness and the full blooming of that
possibility into a tangible / certain reality in that very evolving consciousness, that distance we are covering these days.
900 civilization is just one stone being thrown into our consciousness lake.
Tomorrow it may be 100000.
In the meantime each of us, individualy, has his own consciousness boiling on the stove.
The more we shall realize our peculiar sutuation, that is, consciousnesses in transition, the more objective
and worm hearted we can navigate in participate in the process

There is an essential difference between being intellectually and emotionally drawn to a subject
and an immersion into it, or, immersing the subject into our consciousness.
Some, in this community are still in the intellectual/emotional/secondary-self circumfrance of
life. Others, are diving in.
This process is highly individual.
The road into real connection, with oneself and others, goes through a point of total seclusion/oneness/privacy/ego core.

This is not social connection as we know it.
It is on/in a deeper layer of reality.
Many know the right words. Not necessarily knowing/daring to implement the content of the words.
Words are valueable due to their ever expanding content

The greatest discovery we can make is in the field of consciousness / soul.
And it is the most needed.
It is our chance in time that our ever existing challange - knowing ourselves - coincides
with info regarding intelligent life in the universe.

"ET life exists at all" ?

You don't think the Roswell crash occurred in July 1947 ?

AscensionQuest
1st July 2015, 19:46
I remember an event that was supposed to take place in 2000 with world leaders at egypt but got canceled http://www.robertbauval.co.uk/articles/articles/gpfm.html

Not sure what truth there is to it though.

Spaceport was destroyed by an Annunaki Nuclear Bomb when the human slaves rebelled.

They called it The Great Calamity.

AscensionQuest
1st July 2015, 19:55
this is map of the spaceport location.

1324

jcocks
2nd July 2015, 00:24
"ET life exists at all" ?

You don't think the Roswell crash occurred in July 1947 ?

It's not whether or not the event occurred that is under question, but the nature of the occupants in the craft. Were they ET? Were they interdimensional?

I'm personally leaning towards them being interdimensional - possibly archons.

bsbray
2nd July 2015, 00:43
Looks like you've read some Sitchin, AscensionQuest.

It was his books that first got me intrigued into the whole ancient aliens thing. I've been trying to sort out all of the detail ever since.

pointessa
3rd July 2015, 16:49
David has recently told us that there are 250 million zombie clones in the world, 150 million in the US near the Rocky Mountains. He also stated that the plan was to release the Zombies to infect us with a disease that will make us bleed out. The zombies could then be destroyed by an aerosol. The only reason they are not doing this is that not enough people believe in zombies at this time. Think about housing 150 million zombies underground. Do they eat, do they defaecate??? How would you manage that? And not a hint of it ever leaks out before David provides us with this. If the cabal or government or whoever it is that made these zombies can make an aerosol to destroy them, why cant they ,make one to destroy us instead. Why lock up 150 million zombies waiting for the time enough movies about zombies make us believe? . Can you imagine the maintenance???? Why does he accept this stuff...oh the other thing is that he is being told there is no longer any need to provide proof..that's good!!


Here's a concern I have about Corie. Maybe one of his followers can answer this for me. Corie states he had a job that paid him in the high six figures. At a bare minimum high six figures would be 700,000 a year??? May more maybe slightly less. Somehow , he lost his job due to all his whistle blowing. So his whistle blowing hasn't been going on for more than 6 months. So about 4 months after his big debut he is so broke he can't repair his computer and relies on donations to do so. Even if you were really poor with your spending habits, I imagine someone making that kind of money would have fancy houses and cars to sell off. How do you go from making that kind of money , to broke and asking for donations just to live in less than a year? Just doesn't add up.


I have read all of David's books. I really appreciate a lot of what he has done, I am just finding something amiss here. I feel his ego may be leading him astray. I think he got addicted to his fame and will do anything to keep the interest going. I do not think it is a conscious deception, though.

Timewaster
3rd July 2015, 17:12
David has recently told us that there are 250 million zombie clones in the world, 150 million in the US near the Rocky Mountains. He also stated that the plan was to release the Zombies to infect us with a disease that will make us bleed out. The zombies could then be destroyed by an aerosol. The only reason they are not doing this is that not enough people believe in zombies at this time. Think about housing 150 million zombies underground. Do they eat, do they defaecate??? How would you manage that? And not a hint of it ever leaks out before David provides us with this. If the cabal or government or whoever it is that made these zombies can make an aerosol to destroy them, why cant they ,make one to destroy us instead. Why lock up 150 million zombies waiting for the time enough movies about zombies make us believe? . Can you imagine the maintenance???? Why does he accept this stuff...oh the other thing is that he is being told there is no longer any need to provide proof..that's good!!


Here's a concern I have about Corie. Maybe one of his followers can answer this for me. Corie states he had a job that paid him in the high six figures. At a bare minimum high six figures would be 700,000 a year??? May more maybe slightly less. Somehow , he lost his job due to all his whistle blowing. So his whistle blowing hasn't been going on for more than 6 months. So about 4 months after his big debut he is so broke he can't repair his computer and relies on donations to do so. Even if you were really poor with your spending habits, I imagine someone making that kind of money would have fancy houses and cars to sell off. How do you go from making that kind of money , to broke and asking for donations just to live in less than a year? Just doesn't add up.


I have read all of David's books. I really appreciate a lot of what he has done, I am just finding something amiss here. I feel his ego may be leading him astray. I think he got addicted to his fame and will do anything to keep the interest going. I do not think it is a conscious deception, though.


I was thinking the same thing.

Also this 'event' is meant to happen soon and at this point the money system will be brought down. So why bother signing tv contracts if you know you'll never get to use the money....

Aragorn
3rd July 2015, 17:17
[...] So his whistle blowing hasn't been going on for more than 6 months. So about 4 months after his big debut he is so broke he can't repair his computer and relies on donations to do so. Even if you were really poor with your spending habits, I imagine someone making that kind of money would have fancy houses and cars to sell off. How do you go from making that kind of money , to broke and asking for donations just to live in less than a year? Just doesn't add up.

Just for the record, I'm not exactly a Corey groupie, but the whistle-blowing actually started a lot earlier. This was over at another forum, and it started somewhere around the middle of 2014, with Corey blowing the whistle on the existing secret space program and the ships and technology they were using, but he was doing it in a pseudo-anonymous way, i.e. he said that it was information that had been relayed to him, while hiding the fact that he himself was the actual whistle-blower.

Corey had also already spoken of his MILAB experiences on that forum, and because of that, when the now ex-wife of the founder of that other forum -- she was a moderator there at the time -- was travelling to Texas, said founder asked his then-wife to stop by Corey's place and record an impromptu interview with Corey for said founder's own research purposes. The interview was recorded on a small dictaphone, and after hearing the recording, the founder of that other forum asked Corey to come forward as a whistle-blower. At first, Corey didn't want to be put in that position, but eventually he accepted, and that's when the actual whistle-blowing started. This was somewhere in September or October of 2014. Then, after a conflict on that forum between Corey's wife and the founder of that forum, Corey "retired" from that forum -- this was late October or early November 2014 -- and then eventually joined up here at The One Truth, as well as at several other forums. It was also around that time -- i.e. October or November 2014 -- that Corey got into contact with David Wilcock. He had also already been approached by Kerry Cassidy, but as I understand it, he turned her down after she published his real name on her website without his permission.

I can't and won't comment on how he spent all of his money, though. I merely wanted to put the dates into the proper perspective. ;)

pointessa
5th July 2015, 21:35
Just for the record, I'm not exactly a Corey groupie, but the whistle-blowing actually started a lot earlier. This was over at another forum, and it started somewhere around the middle of 2014, with Corey blowing the whistle on the existing secret space program and the ships and technology they were using, but he was doing it in a pseudo-anonymous way, i.e. he said that it was information that had been relayed to him, while hiding the fact that he himself was the actual whistle-blower.

Corey had also already spoken of his MILAB experiences on that forum, and because of that, when the now ex-wife of the founder of that other forum -- she was a moderator there at the time -- was travelling to Texas, said founder asked his then-wife to stop by Corey's place and record an impromptu interview with Corey for said founder's own research purposes. The interview was recorded on a small dictaphone, and after hearing the recording, the founder of that other forum asked Corey to come forward as a whistle-blower. At first, Corey didn't want to be put in that position, but eventually he accepted, and that's when the actual whistle-blowing started. This was somewhere in September or October of 2014. Then, after a conflict on that forum between Corey's wife and the founder of that forum, Corey "retired" from that forum -- this was late October or early November 2014 -- and then eventually joined up here at The One Truth, as well as at several other forums. It was also around that time -- i.e. October or November 2014 -- that Corey got into


contact with David Wilcock. He had also already been approached by Kerry Cassidy, but as I understand it, he turned her down after she published his real name on her website without his permission.



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I can't and won't comment on how he spent all of his money, though. I merely wanted to put the dates into the proper perspective. ;)







Thank you Aragorn. That is why I asked. So it has still been slightly less then a year. Still I am challenged by the thought that someone making in the high 6 figures around a year ago is having dire financial problems. But I guess there could be a thousand reasons for that and none of them are any of my business. When one steps into the public eye they will be scrutinized at all levels. I have gone from being rather trusting to this sort of disclosure to quite suspicious and I guess it shows. Thanks again .....

SmokeyJoe1952
5th July 2015, 21:45
Hmmmm, shaking head but no comment from me re the Corey affair!

Rebel&Rocket
6th July 2015, 01:22
Thank you Aragorn. That is why I asked. So it has still been slightly less then a year. Still I am challenged by the thought that someone making in the high 6 figures around a year ago is having dire financial problems. But I guess there could be a thousand reasons for that and none of them are any of my business. When one steps into the public eye they will be scrutinized at all levels. I have gone from being rather trusting to this sort of disclosure to quite suspicious and I guess it shows. Thanks again .....

I'm having trouble with the timeline also. If I remember correctly, he has been saying that he lost all of his work due to being exposed and his fallout with the owner of the other forum. I don't know why this never occurred to me, but wouldn't that be cause for enough lawsuits to compensate for quite a good period of time? Particularly with government contracts? With recent reports of taking financial help even before he was outed, are we left to draw the conclusion that potentially the work was lost even before? Does anyone have any further insight on that?

donk
6th July 2015, 13:43
It was also around that time -- i.e. October or November 2014 -- that Corey got into contact with David Wilcock.

He will tell you directly he has been "friends" with DW for 5 years...if you care to examine timelines and like myself think the messenger is often more important than message (since by having a clearer intent of the messenger, you may more accurately the real message they are attempting to transmit...and WHY), that would put it around or not too long after he was sitting next to Bill Ryan on Camelot interviews (Pete Peterson comes to mind? Maybe another one or two).

BR has distanced himself from even mentioning any kind of relationship with DW, but it is difficult to determine anything concrete about what he wants to state about his relationship with Corey...who posted about "Solar Warden" in his bold purple, signing posts as "Corey", right up to the point that Aragorn describes where the release of whistleblowing interview made GoodETxSG "famous", and we were not allowed to post his name to somehow protect his anonymity.

I guess he thinks he wants you to believe Corey somehow tricked and/or used him or something without actually admitting it? I just don't get how he takes no responsibility for creating the character without apologizing for it, if he thinks the information he gave a platform to is not on the up-and-up...I'd think it'd be wise for the forum owner/admin to make a definitive stance here.

It's interesting to watch how these alt-media-quasi-celebs interact...the forum as well as the messenger is very important IMO, if you put aside all the "data" or "message" from these people's stories (that you seemingly can get from anywhere, so why here, now, from whom, eh??)....it seems to me that underneath it is an even more interesting story.

This community likes to pride itself as better as the "sheeple" many of us lament and look down upon, or think we know what they need to do and how to think...but it seems to me we are just easily distracted and memories are just as short...remember Serpo? Charles? Inelia? How's old Simon doing?

"...I'm just sittin' here watching the wheels spin round and round.
I really love to watch them roll..." -JL

Jengelen
6th July 2015, 13:58
I follow that and mostly agree. We have too many examples to look back on to be so gullible any longer. The new video of Steve Greer and the "UFOS" that distinctly hover over the ocean well away from any real chance of ID being given but if you watch these people are apparently all enamored with rose colored glasses and ready to just hand themselves over to these guys! Its amazing really. Hey little kid want a piece a candy? And they come runnin'. For all they really know, if they'd bother to take the rose colored glasses off it could very well be some rich bored stiff psychopath looking for his next meals for the next few years or some other sick stuff like that. But no one sees that or even thinks the thought, what if they are really not friendly afterall? Where is common sense here!? Would Steven just walk right in there and actually expect us to follow? WTF? He needs his head examined.

Corey and Randy Cramer I don't know about. I find the stories interesting, but you know then again when we retired from the service after 22 years we got pensions! Randy should have a good pension similar to ours if he spent a 20 plus year tour of duty and had ID and was military! Where is his half pay at 20 years?

pointessa
6th July 2015, 14:03
I'm having trouble with the timeline also. If I remember correctly, he has been saying that he lost all of his work due to being exposed and his fallout with the owner of the other forum. I don't know why this never occurred to me, but wouldn't that be cause for enough lawsuits to compensate for quite a good period of time? Particularly with government contracts? With recent reports of taking financial help even before he was outed, are we left to draw the conclusion that potentially the work was lost even before? Does anyone have any further insight on that?



I agree totally. Your logic is spot on Rebel and Rocket. Being fired for your personal views on something that you are doing on your personal time. I cannot imagine anyone just fired outright. And of course, there would be huge grounds for lawsuits. There would be lawyers lining up to take the case for a cut of the settlement of a wronged whistle blower not to mention his civil rights being violated. Does anyone know where he worked exactly? I would like to look into it further. Once he divulged this information to the public I feel it has the right to be scrutinized.

donk
6th July 2015, 14:08
But no one sees that or even thinks the thought, what if they are really not friendly afterall? Where is common sense here!? Would Steven just walk right in there and actually expect us to follow? WTF? He needs his head examined.

Corey and Randy Cramer I don't know about. I find the stories interesting, but you know then again when we retired from the service after 22 years we got pensions! Randy should have a good pension similar to ours if he spent a 20 plus year tour of duty and had ID and was military! Where is his half pay at 20 years?

Well one concrete point I am able to discern and agree with from the perspective Bill does put out there is that (and this is a loose quote so don't get me if I'm not 100%, though this is the actual idea as I interpret his words): Everything Corey says is "sanctioned"

This, I would think, stems from an idea that the "community" for the most part seems to agree upon: "once you're 'in', you're in for life"......any of these institutions, secret or not, are not gonna just let you go--at the very least they are going to be watching.

Everyone always want to point out the money angle...and maybe there is a definitely reality to that, especially on the surface. But I feel there's something deeper going on, at those levels it's REAL INFORMATION, not cash, that is the real currency. The money and even the fame and ego of the celeb is just a surface side show IMO. Maybe that's all your Corey's and DW's and BR's are really concerned with at the front of their awareness...maybe they are not even aware...we can never REALLY know. But I try every opportunity I get to put the possibility there's more to this than that surface so many of us seem to like to conclude this is all about....

And to this point, I say: YES...yes he does. So do all these guys. And they seem to hook plenty of people that will aggressively defend them and their emotional attachment to them and their ideas...

SmokeyJoe1952
6th July 2015, 15:49
"sanctioned" by whom? From the outset I watched Corey Goode as his story unfolded, began with lengthy colorful posts (literally, he does like colored text) and each time the data output increased, masses of info it seemed, non verifiable of course but it was fascinating to watch the ongoing drama. As far as I can tell Corey has only been in the public domain around a year or so, he might well say he was friends with such and such for years but his appearance openly was only a short while ago. Its difficult being a whistleblower for a number of reasons and can have some empathy with Corey but I've been around the block a good many times and had reservations. Segments of my original disclosures were fully sanctioned by Defence Intelligence, as noted at that time with Miles Johnston. Its far from easy to give full total 100% proof in this game and realise everyone has the right to question, not attack as I've had to endure, but question, seems Corey got miffed every time someone politely asked questions. I guess this saga is far from being over. Lets watch and wait.

donk
6th July 2015, 15:58
Just to be clear...no one worrying or preventing him posting his nonsense is a sort of "negative consent" that I'd equate with "sanctioned".


As far as I can tell Corey has only been in the public domain around a year or so, he might well say he was friends with such and such for years but his appearance openly was only a short while ago.

The thing that gets me...is that people (and YOU, of all people) just accept this. His "appearance"....as if it is something that just happened. Not interesting, even worthy of discussion--something that just happened, nothing of his presence before matters. The phenomenon of him going from Corey to GoodET to sensation here to whatever it is he is doing now.....the only thing anyone wants to talk about is his "data", and seemingly really want to seperate that "message" from anything about the messenger".

I guess it is uninteresting to everybody but me? It got me booted off Avalon, trying to make sense of it--for whatever that's worth....Bill seemed to take it personally, just trying to get an understanding...attempting to empathize with the players involved.

Shadowself
6th July 2015, 17:15
Good[e]y two shoes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0XUJ1GdIkw

Sorry....I couldn't resist...:whstl:

SmokeyJoe1952
6th July 2015, 17:26
Just to be clear...no one worrying or preventing him posting his nonsense is a sort of "negative consent" that I'd equate with "sanctioned".



The thing that gets me...is that people (and YOU, of all people) just accept this. His "appearance"....as if it is something that just happened. Not interesting, even worthy of discussion--something that just happened, nothing of his presence before matters. The phenomenon of him going from Corey to GoodET to sensation here to whatever it is he is doing now.....the only thing anyone wants to talk about is his "data", and seemingly really want to seperate that "message" from anything about the messenger".

I guess it is uninteresting to everybody but me? It got me booted off Avalon, trying to make sense of it--for whatever that's worth....Bill seemed to take it personally, just trying to get an understanding...attempting to empathize with the players involved.

As far as I can tell yes he did appear out of the blue and on the Avalon forum where Christine says he was a close friend, I could not care who he was/is and got into trouble myself at Avalon for daring to say anything against him or his so called data. Its fine if his data resonates or goes well with you, simply many are now removing the blinkers and can see the full story, not the dripfed one given out.

Jengelen
6th July 2015, 17:53
I understand fully smokeyjoe same here on another guru not this one. Its funny to me how the blinders come off later but the bans, ooops, unsubscribed responsible for most of the "I told ya soin' don't seem to.

SmokeyJoe1952
6th July 2015, 21:00
Very similar goings on with Simon Parkes, some support him some disbelieve his claims, but he was/is treated as a messiah at a certain forum and anyone stating doubts on his claims gets aggro there. As for this particular individual (corey) maybe we are caught in a big psy-ops, I see certain signs but refrain from calling it so till I see further water muddying.

Rebel&Rocket
6th July 2015, 21:23
I agree totally. Your logic is spot on Rebel and Rocket. Being fired for your personal views on something that you are doing on your personal time. I cannot imagine anyone just fired outright. And of course, there would be huge grounds for lawsuits. There would be lawyers lining up to take the case for a cut of the settlement of a wronged whistle blower not to mention his civil rights being violated. Does anyone know where he worked exactly? I would like to look into it further. Once he divulged this information to the public I feel it has the right to be scrutinized.

I can't remember exactly where it all started to pop up...I remember specifics such as working with the Federal Reserve and I think that info was DW. Corey himself, though, has said over and over things about "losing his contracts." I don't think he was directly working for anyone - he has said he was contracted by different government agencies. There are very specific laws about government contractors and what is not allowed to be discriminated against. Now, I don't actually know if there is anything that would prevent a lawsuit against a British national for perpetuating this or disclosing sensitive information about a contractor to those who have contracted him, but there would definitely be laws against losing those contracts - government agencies cannot discriminate against their contractors anymore than they can their employees. If they wanted to call this "national security" issues as grounds for losing contracts, that would be an admission that there was a secret space program, which they'd never do. Right?

Gretchen
6th July 2015, 22:34
I scanned some of the above comments and I'll just write here what I understood as I read about Corey on TOT and in other places where he posts.


Corey lost his IT job because somebody wrote letters or otherwise contacted agencies where he worked and suggested negative things about him.

Such IT employment contracts can end in the blink of an eye. So can any type of government employment. I have had it happen to me. Employment in many states is very simply "at will" and can be ended by the employer.

The employer doesn't have to say anything about security issues or anything. They can call it a downsizing or "cost cutting measure" or simply a "layoff" and escort the person out the door with a box of his personal stuff.

It is very difficult to sue when one loses a contract. Lawyers aren't crawling out of the woodwork to defend people in situations like this.

I understood his earlier salary with IT contracts to be $80,000 to $100,000 or maybe $120,000. Not $900,000. The IT people I know very well make about $80,000 to $120,000.

sma
7th July 2015, 07:15
IT programmers/developers and system administrators, as employees these days, make $100,000.00 to $150,000.00 per year on average, with developers on the higher end, I have heard some make $170,000.00 per year. I have been in all these positions, so I know what I am stating here, Of course I am speaking of having a strong background in the area of work interest, and having strong background with the software and/or hardware that the institution or business uses. I have not been in these positions for the military however. It seems government employees may make more than corporate these days... Contractors can make more than a regular employee, because it is more risk.... If you have been on a platform which has not been phased out, then it is usually very easy to get another contract, unless you have some other extenuating circumstances, my case. Plus when you lose a contract, you get full unemployment benefits, which helps, and it resets each time you get employment, from what I understand.

I saw the article Dr. Salla put out today about the AI, helping us. Then I heard him mention how AI has taken over other civilizations, it sounds like AI can quickly get out of hand. It appears, it may be able to grow exponentially, seems we could lose the whole multi-verse to it! LOL If AI becomes intelligent enough to destroy civilizations, it would be able to start spreading across the known universe, then the multi-verse, civilization hopping, we would be an easy target, since we seem to be the late comers... I wonder why this has not come to pass? Could it be someone is watching out for us? Maybe I am exaggerating, or maybe Dr. Salla is also... I have my story about the Blue Avians, I will tell about it tomorrow, to tired....

sma
8th July 2015, 01:01
I use this name format “Blue Avians?” to show these beings were confirmed to be the ones Corey Speaks of, not that it is these beings actual name.

I am not implying I am correct about everything here, this is my experience and opinions.

I have been in contact with extraterrestrials a little over two years now. It may have started earlier in my life. Here is my blog link which relates some of my experience to Corey Goode, David Wilcock, and Michael Salla's information. http://exodiscussion.blogspot.com/2015/05/my-extraterrestrial-narrative-my.html It is best to read it first, as it happened while Corey's information was unfolding. The information that Corey reveals does not imply these beings are actually named the “Blue Avians?” in my case. What has been confirmed to me, is these beings are the same beings Corey speaks of. I absolutely have contact with these beings and have confirmations from them about who they are via photographs, and visuals. I see them, and I am flashed by them everyday. I had asked early on when some channellings were not clear, to give visual confirmations. Recently I have been given symbolic information as confirmations on what I write. I am in contact with these beings, it is not strictly the domain of Corey Goode currently reporting contact with these beings. I believe Corey has knowledge of these beings, not necessarily contact... You will see some of my reasoning below. Other individuals are making contact with these beings, only they are not aware of it. Currently, all extraterrestrials visiting Earth are most certainly from the same group. I have had it confirmed to me the reptilians, as are being espoused by several individuals, do not exist, and has been humorously shared with me by our friends, the “Blue Avians?”. In fact, I had another confirmation yesterday stating I am balanced on how I view the reptilians, in other words, I think it is the reptilian part of our brain that we need to move past, and actual reptilians do not exist. Therefore, those stating their existence are being misleading, not necessarily on purpose. However, some are purposely misleading with the intent to cause distrust and disinformation with the “Blue Avians?”, and may even be aware the reptilians do not exist, at that point, it would be considered disinformation. Simply, if reptilians exist, then how is it possible to trust any ET? The possibility exists the ET may be a shape shifting reptilian... Rumor has it the reptilians are shape shifters. I will tell you all ETs can shape shift, it is structured de-materialization. I recently made a couple of post to an individual who doubts Mr. Goodes story, as many things he stated, I fall in line with, however this person believes in the reptilians, which simply is not true, I have had this confirmed to me on multiple occasions. This blue orb was a confirmation to the failed discussion I had with this individual. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmenbBgr3JI Maybe it is Corey in the blue orb? LOL So in regards to the White Draco Reptilians, Mr. Goode is either not being honest, or he is mislead, or ultimately he is intentional disinformation.

The “Blue Avians?” have been confirmed to me as the beings Paul Hellyer speaks of, with a base on a moon of Saturn, Andromedia. Not long after my contact, I was shown during several meditations, Saturn followed by a city, complete with pyramids, buildings, and extraterrestrial craft. The visions were very realistic and with the craft moving. I have also been shown an extraterrestrial city, which was not as expected, for example I was thinking a city of light, like many speak of. It was a huge living building, I mean it looked alive, like it had blood vessels. It was white with red streaks, and came up from the ground in a valley and covered it, this occurred during a meditation after asking them to show me an another type of extraterrestrial city. I saw it from the ground, and in the air, two separate images.

The “Blue Avians?” have been confirmed to me as the beings who channeled the message "Do You Wish We Show Up" to Eric Julien, who is an established author. This in of itself is revealing. A few weeks prior to learning of Corey, I was looking at some Yahoo boards and found one centered on the message “Do You Wish We Show Up”. Well, I knew who these beings were already, as I was having contact with them, it was these beings from this message, Paul Hellyer speaks of, and had been confirmed to me several times. There is a member of this forum who is well aware of this, I had posted this to another site in which they are a member, and this person posted to that post, maybe a year ago. Ok, back to the board I found. I subscribed to the board, and was excited, because I had this information. My first post showed a CHP helicopter with ETs on it, a short description, and some opinion. https://plus.google.com/+ExodiscussionForum/posts/To6wxyVQqB7 I have been harassed for years by DHS who uses law enforcement. This photo is remarkable IMO, I think many are put off by it however, or afraid to say something about it, because of the before mentioned harassment. And just so you know it is very real, I will take a polygraph, not on my dollar, I am almost broke, by design. You can see the reasons for harassment on my blog and Google+ mentioned before. Turns out Mr. Salla is a moderator on that forum. My post never made it past moderation, I believe I mentioned the ETs are past politics in the post, of course that did not set well, I am sure, with Mr. Salla. And it makes me wonder about how all this transpired, it could just be a coincidence.

The “Blue Avians?” were recently confirmed to me, as the beings Corey knows about. I kept getting messages from the “Blue Avians?” about something positive via symbols in my minds eye. It had everything to do with David Wilcock there was a correlation. To this day I am not sure what was to happen, but I believe David must have found my material on the net. This is an impression I have, based off statements David was making at the time. Such as the “Blue Avian's?” had bypassed our government and contacted the people, who were trying to expose the ET presence and pushing for disclosure. Well I was definitely posting my contact on Google+ with tags to law enforcement, federal, state, and city, about disclosing the ET presence for a while now, which I am sure all agencies have noticed. As you know, Corey has been speaking to David, yet David is also getting other information from other sources, and through research. How do I have a confirmation regards the “Blue Avians?”? Well you read the blog, of the bird being, very similar to the “Blue Avians?” Corey describes. I had also read during the time of these events, another Forum where Corey had posted. I have seen the triangle headed beings and the narrow headed human looking beings Corey speaks of in his post on that forum. In fact there were three beings one each of the ones mentioned, and another more like a Lemur in appearance at a local Wal-Mart, after I had asked to see them physically the day before. What a correlation, and the day I mentioned contacting David Wilcock, I took the photo of the “Blue Avian?” on the blog post at the very end, I saw it after being flashed by them to get my attention. I had trouble contacting DW, and still have not. So, I contacted Corey, only to be asked for a password. He stated it was needed to confirm actual contact with these beings. I thought it was odd, but I did get something from our friends, after asking them for the password. Basically the message, two words, I got was that it was a mess, but it may actually be the password... Still, I tried to convince him, and he knocked my avatar saying the “Blue Avians?” would never allow such a thing. Part of my issue with Corey, may have been by my own doing. I started a post on his FB page saying if he would take a polygraph, I would. Also I emailed him, but giving the password I was given, while being monitored by DHS, did not sound good to me, so I told him the reasoning for not giving it. While being a little embarrassed as to what the two words meant, when I had looked them up on a Google search, which was dumb also. Anyway, if it had of worked out, I might have been able to quell all this reptilian, and break away civilization speak... And kept the beings as physical beings, as David seemed to be in-line with that, at first... If Corey does not have contact, how do we have the same beings? Could it be he was informed about how they look?

What this means is these “Blue Avians?” approached our government, and were rejected due to incompatible interest, ultimately the rejection was due to "ego" in all its forms by our human leaders. The negative ETs that were here having agreements with our governments, are now most likely gone, because the “Blue Avians?” and possibly the Galactic Federation are the majority. This fact may have scared our government faction/cabal. We are now left with a cabal and possibly SSP(s). The “Blue Avians?” showed up anyway, because of compassion for us, despite many not being aware of the negative presence on Earth and the arrangements made with them. I just do not believe in the break away civilizations, in my opinion, the breakaway civilizations are dis-info, designed to make us think we could create new allies against an enemy of the Cabal's choice, probably the “Blue Avians?”. Part of what I am saying here is speculative, but is really logically derived, there are references from people like Paul Hellyer, Steven Greer, Werner Von Braun, and others stating the ETs would ultimately be made the enemies. So, if the negative ETs have left because the majority, “Blue Avians?” and Galactic Federation are here, how would you try to hold your ground, if you were the cabal, government faction, or any special interest? Enforce distrust among humans toward the ETs by creating/emphasizing shape shifting reptilians, create the idea there are break away civilizations, which are actually humans, creating/implying the possibility of future allies with them, the last possibility is easily managed with our current political mentality, changing sides for political reasons is very common. Finally the Blue Avians are physical beings not sixth dimensional, as has been stated. David Wilcock may have been taken because of his strong belief in the “Law of One”, an illuminati installed DOD operative could easily utilize this fact knowing the “Blue Avians?” have bird beings among their group. I will get back to creating a blog shortly. I know there are many claiming contact with ETs, very few are actually provided evidence of this contact. What Corey has done is covered all his bases, it does very much look suspicious to me. With the “Blue Avians?” he describes, there is no need for evidence since they are basically angels, you need to have faith. I do believe in spirits however the “Blue Avians?” are not spirits they are physical, and I have been shown. And according to him everything else is disinformation. Ok, I am harrassed by LE, yet I would be disinformation, again I offer the polygraph. Everyone following Corey should demand it of him IMO. Also, Corey keeps stating no saviour extraterrestrials, I wonder what the real impetus for stating this is? As you know, Salla is a moderator on the forum previously mentioned, and Salla often elaborates on what Corey states, seems he would have been glad to see the information I gave him regarding these “Blue Avians?”, I know he saw my Google+ site it was on the post, but I believe it may have changed his mind, since he is into Exopolitics, as stated, these beings are past it.

So what does this all mean. I do not believe these extraterrestrials, “Blue Avians?” are here to form strategic relationships with our government. They have moved past violence, war, politics, and nationalism. In fact ego in all its forms is a non-desirable aspect for them, when dealing with us humans. It has been confirmed to me, some of these beings I have had contact with are billions of years ahead in evolution. These “Blue Avians?” are probably the majority of nearby extraterrestrial races, and the less than desirable ETs are very likely gone, just by their appearance. Were the undesirable ETs the reptilians? Probably not, my guess for an ET that sounds negative would be the “Tall Whites”, as described by Charles Hall, which appeared to have a relationship with our government, or cabal. There could possibly be a couple of other extraterrestrial races in affiliation in some way or another. Salla seems to speak well of them... I have trouble believing the duality that Corey is pushing forward and presenting to all his followers. Like we are going to continue this bad behaviour on into space. This to me would be a very important line of thought if you were part of the military or a contractor to the military. Or an individual(s) who simply wishes to keep the paradigm you are familiar with, forsaking contact with beings who are gentle, but have radically different modes of operation than humans are use to, even if it means a better and safer existence for us. They have much more efficient technologies, we all know the spill. These “Blue Avians?” would like to see us become an open and loving civilization, certainly they would like to come here and mingle with us, and has been confirmed. However, we simply are not there yet. But they are ready and willing to help us if need be, and without interference. If the majority sees the cabal is getting the upper hand, and we are losing ground, they are willing to give us a hand if the majority can wake up, and ask for their help. I think it would be great to experience other beings, and learn something about them. These beings do not deal in racism, as they are past form. So, in that sense, again we are not ready. They would like our friendship and to welcome us to a new reality. Disclosure is a great step forward in that direction.

Have you noticed that all the major news items has Salla talking the possibility of it being related to the Corey information? It seems the stories are tailor made to fit Corey's revelations, and possibly vice versa.... is it scripted?

mojo
8th July 2015, 01:43
Long before Corey or anyone else started sharing about blue avians the real source for the testimony is below: even so not one photo, video or artifact has been presented by anyone discussing the blue avians, not one... in my opinion Bonnie Meyer is the true source of the testimony. But nobody gave her credit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CAGiq95tKA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5TQFo9BcZw

pointessa
9th July 2015, 13:16
I scanned some of the above comments and I'll just write here what I understood as I read about Corey on TOT and in other places where he posts.


Corey lost his IT job because somebody wrote letters or otherwise contacted agencies where he worked and suggested negative things about him.

Such IT employment contracts can end in the blink of an eye. So can any type of government employment. I have had it happen to me. Employment in many states is very simply "at will" and can be ended by the employer.

The employer doesn't have to say anything about security issues or anything. They can call it a downsizing or "cost cutting measure" or simply a "layoff" and escort the person out the door with a box of his personal stuff.

It is very difficult to sue when one loses a contract. Lawyers aren't crawling out of the woodwork to defend people in situations like this.

I understood his earlier salary with IT contracts to be $80,000 to $100,000 or maybe $120,000. Not $900,000. The IT people I know very well make about $80,000 to $120






When I brought up his salary it was not to debate how much he made. He stated he made in the high 6 figures. My point was if he made in the high 6 figures, why is he broke about 6 months later? Broke to the point of needing donations to do a small repair on his computer?

donk
9th July 2015, 13:49
As far as I can tell yes he did appear out of the blue and on the Avalon forum where Christine says he was a close friend, I could not care who he was/is

So if you presented new testimony on a different forum, it would be fair to everyone there to dismiss anything else they can find out you...it would not be valuable to them to take your previous public activity into account?


I could not care who he was/is and got into trouble myself at Avalon for daring to say anything against him or his so called data.

You don't think this a valid piece of data, a piece of the puzzle?


Its fine if his data resonates or goes well with you, simply many are now removing the blinkers and can see the full story, not the dripfed one given out.

I take this to mean that you expect anyone to judge your data on whether or not it resonates with them?


Sorry smokeyjoe, please know that I have a ton of respect for you. I don't ONLY consider whether your "data" resonates with me or not, I actually went through as much as i could find that you have out there--and even tried engaging you directly in private when I wanted clarity (I think a key piece for consideration is the value of these as far as giving accessability to "whistleblowers")...in order to decide whether my "feelings" or "resonantingness" had any validity...to make sure there was consistency there.

I'm having a really hard with your post, I am trying to discern your approach to whistleblower data...as I respect your unique position in this reality. With respect, Phil

SmokeyJoe1952
9th July 2015, 14:57
So if you presented new testimony on a different forum, it would be fair to everyone there to dismiss anything else they can find out you...it would not be valuable to them to take your previous public activity into account?



You don't think this a valid piece of data, a piece of the puzzle?



I take this to mean that you expect anyone to judge your data on whether or not it resonates with them?


Sorry smokeyjoe, please know that I have a ton of respect for you. I don't ONLY consider whether your "data" resonates with me or not, I actually went through as much as i could find that you have out there--and even tried engaging you directly in private when I wanted clarity (I think a key piece for consideration is the value of these as far as giving accessability to "whistleblowers")...in order to decide whether my "feelings" or "resonantingness" had any validity...to make sure there was consistency there.

I'm having a really hard with your post, I am trying to discern your approach to whistleblower data...as I respect your unique position in this reality. With respect, Phil

OK, cards on the table, my post reflected what I feel, sense and openly stated. Yes I am a little concerned that individuals suddenly spring up out of the blue and disclose information which starts at a reasonable, feasable level, but gets more fantastic and lets be honest, outrageous as time goes on. The BIG problem is not really the message but the messenger. No one can track Corey's past, totally unknown to the community, so we have nothing whatsoever to verify, clarify him or his claims. I thank you for your kind words about my disclosures but here is the thing. Not only am I freely available to answer questions as and when I'm online but people know I have a clear checkable past, forums since 2005, Disclosure Project Witness since 2000, in the 90's endured those Bases vids, and during the 1970's was high profile researcher/investigator with UFOIN/BUFORA/FSR mag, with much of my work published in that FSR mag, plus a number of books since 1979 (Ufos A British Viewpoint by Jenny Randles and Peter Warrington). See where I'm coming from? People can see me as having been around a very long time, not appearing on the net out of the blue. This is a major problem for not just me, serious disclosure elements also find this difficult to evaluate. My approach to disclosure is self evident, I've put my cards on the table, opened up fully to everyone AND can be traced back in time. The community needs to be able to verify each and every individual who comes forward with such claims and not take it for granted it must be truthful. I've had to endure the third degree and rightly expect all those that approach the community with claims to go thru the same treatment and not run away from simple questioning. With that in mind yes I'm holding the claims of Corey Goode and some of those from DW suspect. I hope that clarifies the situation.

RikkiTikkiTavi
9th July 2015, 15:23
*sigh* Just feeling the need to vent. I'm not sure if this is the place to do it, I apologize beforehand if this is inappropriate.

I understand the "message", STO, be kind, understanding and compassionate and so on.

Apply discernment; probably one of the most frequently given instructions by "truth messengers". Well I'm applying it.

Back during the latter part of 2014 I discovered David Wilcock's information that he had researched and published in both print and audio/video media. I found it to be well researched and quite amazing, nothing short of life changing. I respect the time and effort he had put into his work. And then began hearing more about his SSP insider. At first it all sounded plausible, however as time goes by this insider's credibility (by applying my discernment) is waning.

My first indications of this were the comparison between the insider's prior work history and the quality of how the information they provided was presented. Misspellings, clarity and composition and overall unprofessionalism in the presentation, again, given their prior experience. Secondly, as it my understanding that this insider lost their regular livelihood and is/was in hardtimes economically. Even so, I find it a bit unprofessional to put as much emphasis on donations as has been done. But alas, to each his own. There was also the request for assistance for contacts of those who may have a beach house that this insider and his family could use for a vacation. (I'm not sure of any financial arrangements). Thirdly, the constant delays and missed target time frames of the release of information.

And then, the radio interview on oymradio just recently. It just didn't come across to me as he was confidant in what he was doing. And jees, the sketch he posted on his site (after he said he was arranging for a professional artist to render a facsimile) of a Draco?

Now again, I respect and admire David's work and I feel that the material that has been presented by him is plausible and authentic. However the information presented by his insider, or, maybe it's the way in which it has been presented is not very convincing to me. Something is just not quite right. Besides that, the information seems to be directed towards elementary school students. Considering the constant advisories that the information will be very disturbing.

So, yes I will continue to read, listen, watch and discern. I just needed to vent, this is all very frustrating.:cracky:

donk
9th July 2015, 15:26
OK, cards on the table, my post reflected what I feel, sense and openly stated. Yes I am a little concerned that individuals suddenly spring up out of the blue and disclose information which starts at a reasonable, feasable level, but gets more fantastic and lets be honest, outrageous as time goes on. The BIG problem is not really the message but the messenger. No one can track Corey's past, totally unknown to the community, so we have nothing whatsoever to verify, clarify him or his claims. I thank you for your kind words about my disclosures but here is the thing. Not only am I freely available to answer questions as and when I'm online but people know I have a clear checkable past, forums since 2005, Disclosure Project Witness since 2000, in the 90's endured those Bases vids, and during the 1970's was high profile researcher/investigator with UFOIN/BUFORA/FSR mag, with much of my work published in that FSR mag, plus a number of books since 1979 (Ufos A British Viewpoint by Jenny Randles and Peter Warrington). See where I'm coming from? People can see me as having been around a very long time, not appearing on the net out of the blue. This is a major problem for not just me, serious disclosure elements also find this difficult to evaluate. My approach to disclosure is self evident, I've put my cards on the table, opened up fully to everyone AND can be traced back in time. The community needs to be able to verify each and every individual who comes forward with such claims and not take it for granted it must be truthful. I've had to endure the third degree and rightly expect all those that approach the community with claims to go thru the same treatment and not run away from simple questioning. With that in mind yes I'm holding the claims of Corey Goode and some of those from DW suspect. I hope that clarifies the situation.

I appreciate every time you share your thoughts and feelings, and especially a lot you stated here...though my point, and as I mention before no one else seems interested and so it may be off base, though I am still not completely ready to "let it go and move on" just yet...is that I disagree with the second half of what I highlighted above, that seems to conflict with the first half.

Corey posted hundreds if not in excess of a thousand times on Avalon before he "appeared out of the blue"...and his stuff usually set up red flags, with bits that "resonated with me" enough to "try to keep an eye on him"...but for the fact I could never get the through bold purple crap I often tried wading through. Those are my own intuitions and feelings about the prolific poster and friend of avalon that signed most posts as Corey who existed and established at least a character as GoodETxSG/Corey BEFORE Bill made him famous.

I just think that him as messenger, the platform that changed his character, the individuals involved in doing so...are all pieces of the puzzle worthy of being examined if not for building a case to shooting holes in his particular story...but I actually see a phenomonon that is a pattern that is way more important than this individual case, which happens to have a lot of revealing elements way more interesting to me than blue birds and giant spheres and cash made and fame and ego feeding.

Gretchen
9th July 2015, 15:39
Pointessa and others:

I have worked with a lot of IT people over the years who are not writers. They are not terribly good with expressing in writing what is going on. Perhaps English composition was always a weak subject for them. They excel in programming or puzzle-solving or math or being an "intuitive empath" or other areas.

Very smart people are often bad writers or poor spellers.

If Corey said he made in the high six figures, frankly, I think he was not thinking very hard about what he was saying or not writing what he meant. I don't particularly care what he used to bring in as a salary (you probably don't either).

But, if you live in the USA and you make $98,000/ year (this is what I was thinking he probably made... maybe $120,000, maybe $90,000 is my guess... or even if he made $170,000 per year) but you have 2 kids and a spouse, all of whom have mouths to feed, plus a mortgage, maybe you have other payments, maybe you are supporting elderly parents or helping other people out, health insurance, surgery (which he talked about) and you go for six months without that income, well, things start to get stretched.

I think this is what happened here.

He didn't do a small repair on his computer. He went out and bought mostly a new system. Maybe that's $1,000. Maybe it's $600. Maybe it's $2,000. I don't know. He is putting out info to the public on his computer and so he is asking the public to support that part of his work. He didn't ask us to pay his mortgage or pay for his kids' braces.

I don't mind being asked for donations by people who run websites. We can choose to donate or not.

I was reading every word of his a couple of months ago, and I didn't find his 'request for donations' mysterious or difficult to understand and I read everything he said afterward. Was I duped? Well, maybe. But I didn't sense that I was being duped.
Time will tell !

donk
9th July 2015, 16:53
So with Avalon falling all over itself to tell it what a great discerner it is and how self aware and opened the members are that they would NEVER fall for crap like the blue birdies...while they ponder why they'd targets of disinfo and psyops and such...I have to ask:

Where would Corey be if not for Project Avalon? Would it made a difference if he "appeared out of the blue" as manifested by David Wilcock in some kind of reveal?

I guess that what rubs me the wrong way, Barry...no one wants to seem to give responsibility to what I see is the actively giving of cred, by the person and forum who should know best

SmokeyJoe1952
9th July 2015, 19:37
Thats exactly it, don't you get it? He appeared out of the blue as a member on Avalon and posted vast amounts in various nice colors, no one knew whom he was, where he came from, his past, which is my point. Everyone thought, hello, new whistleblower lets read on. No one bothered to ask about his past and no one tried to verify he was whom he claimed to be. Its all very well whacking out page after page of posts at Avalon before an altercation sent him here. He still had NO verifiable past, you all had to take him on trust. I am not saying he is a hoaxer or his data is false, BUT I AM saying he is a relative newcomer to the community. As stated elsewhere its far too easy for ANYONE to trawl the internet and as masses of info is out there ready for the picking, to concoct a series of claims. Since youtube and social media its so much easier to trawl and collect data. Hope you see my point?

SmokeyJoe1952
9th July 2015, 19:43
So with Avalon falling all over itself to tell it what a great discerner it is and how self aware and opened the members are that they would NEVER fall for crap like the blue birdies...while they ponder why they'd targets of disinfo and psyops and such...I have to ask:

Where would Corey be if not for Project Avalon? Would it made a difference if he "appeared out of the blue" as manifested by David Wilcock in some kind of reveal?

I guess that what rubs me the wrong way, Barry...no one wants to seem to give responsibility to what I see is the actively giving of cred, by the person and forum who should know best

Indeed so, yes, Bill and Avalon gave him a platform and many were sucked straight in whilst others stood back and watched. Having DW on his side sent messages that he was a very truthful very honest top notch guy spilling the beans. Corey thought he had high credibility and so became quite arrogant when questioned, indeed those at Avalon before the ruckas bent over backwards to protect him no one dared state they thought something was not quite right there. I'm sorry if I **** people off but I've seen this many times, people coming into the community from nowhere and disclosing all manner of nonsense. Look around the net for some very obvious individuals. Apologies again but I'm basing my opinions on nearly 5 decades in this business.

RikkiTikkiTavi
9th July 2015, 19:53
Was I duped? Well, maybe. But I didn't sense that I was being duped.

I believe that's the premise of being duped.

And since I'm here, why has the Galatic Energy Wave not been discussed other than a passing remark that the "sphere beings" are regulating the energy being directed here? There seems to be a good amount of researched evidence that this is real. Which seems to be slightly more than what has been provided with this "Blue Avian/Sphere Beings" situation.

Also, the story gets a little more "intriguing?" with the addition of Draco overlords of higher dimensions and that the Dracos have been infiltrated with nanotech AI that they had known about, or suspected for awhile.

This reads like some dime store science fiction novel. And hey, people are free to think and believe what the will. However, those who take advantage of peoples trust and prey on their fears and emotions are in the same boat as the "Cabal", the "Parents", the Dracos or whoever. At best it is a poorly told story, or an inaccurate truth, at worst it is plain and simple and purely a lie to deceive. And psyop certainly does come to mind.

donk
9th July 2015, 20:23
Thats exactly it, don't you get it? He appeared out of the blue as a member on Avalon and posted vast amounts in various nice colors, no one knew whom he was, where he came from, his past, which is my point. Everyone thought, hello, new whistleblower lets read on. No one bothered to ask about his past and no one tried to verify he was whom he claimed to be. Its all very well whacking out page after page of posts at Avalon before an altercation sent him here. He still had NO verifiable past, you all had to take him on trust. I am not saying he is a hoaxer or his data is false, BUT I AM saying he is a relative newcomer to the community. As stated elsewhere its far too easy for ANYONE to trawl the internet and as masses of info is out there ready for the picking, to concoct a series of claims. Since youtube and social media its so much easier to trawl and collect data. Hope you see my point?

Absolutely, thanks for clarifying.

Mine is that he'd still be a relative unknown, only a "prominent PA poster", if not for Bill, who appeared on the scene with Serpo, which--well, what is anyone's opinion on that?

From what I can tell, it was exposed as a hoax, though he's never really clear his current stance on it, the little I've seen I'm mention it he hints that there may have something to, or at least it was an experience not worth COMPLETELY dismissing...I dunno. However, I don't beleive it is generally as actual verified legit UFO stuff, yet shortly after the story shuts down, whistleblowers/experiencers are lining up to do interviews for him...and out of the blue Kerry C.

Then Charles comes along. Stephen Hodges still seems to have a presence on the "fringes" of this community, Bill still has credibility, and can still produce celebrities. How much Simon Parkes did you see, before he took up residence in Avalon? I see patterns, patterns that few seem to want talk about, and lots of vocal people are uncomfortable with and people urge me to "move on" from...

You're nearly unique Barry, in that you have a media record previous to the internet. It changed the nature of the "data", which I have lately gotten away from even looking at...my points are all toward not the data itself, and only marginally about the "integrity" of the information about the characters...in that I am looking at the WHY of this "information/data? being brought to my awareness, the front of the collective consciousness of the part of reality I find myself in

Aragorn
9th July 2015, 20:27
[...] Bill and Avalon gave him a platform and many were sucked straight in whilst others stood back and watched.[...]

Not wanting to pour more fuel on these so-called "forum wars", but Avalon had its own selfish reasons for giving Corey a platform. ;)


[...] Corey thought he had high credibility and so became quite arrogant when questioned, [...

That much is true. I was there at the time and I had noticed that myself as well.


...] indeed those at Avalon before the ruckas bent over backwards to protect him no one dared state they thought something was not quite right there.

The reason why they stopped bending over backwards is because Corey's wife spilled the beans on a certain FBI file on Bill Ryan that had been sent to Corey. From that moment on, things went pretty bad for Corey over at Avalon. He was essentially bullied off of the forum and his thread was closed, supposedly by his own request -- or so claimed the Avalon moderators -- but I was in contact with Corey via e-mail at the time and I know very well that he never requested for his thread to be closed, although he did eventually accept his defeat.

So from then on, Avalon could go back to bending over backwards for green mantis beings, big white lizards, the white light trap, and "Simon Sez". ;)


I believe that's the premise of being duped.

[...]

This reads like some dime store science fiction novel. And hey, people are free to think and believe what the will. However, those who take advantage of peoples trust and prey on their fears and emotions are in the same boat as the "Cabal", the "Parents", the Dracos or whoever. At best it is a poorly told story, or an inaccurate truth, at worst it is plain and simple and purely a lie to deceive. And psyop certainly does come to mind.

L. Ron Hubbard was making a living writing up stories like that. And then, with or without the advice from his good friend Aleister Crowley, he decided to turn his confabulations into a religion -- one that persists to this very day, and which even has a certain forum owner as its supporter. ;)

lift the veil
9th July 2015, 20:41
http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/the-lt-col-gonzales-ssp-council-delegation-briefings-part-1.html


The “Draco Federation Alliances” Demands & Secrets Revealed

This report will not be as detailed as it is based on a briefing given to me from Lt. Col. Gonzales of his meeting with the Draco Federation Alliance, the Committee of 200 “Chairmen”, and his first time to attend the Human Like “ET Super Federation” conference sitting in the delegates chair and his meeting with Raw-Tear-Eir. Because of the length of the article and the details contained in the various subjects I am breaking it into two parts.

Lt. Col. Gonzales was kept quite busy while I was away during my week of shooting video interviews with David Wilcock at Gaiam TV. It was apparently important that I continued that project undisturbed so that it could branch out into a wider project. I had expected to shoot 5 episodes and be done. I also didn’t expect the skeptical Gaiam Team to do a second round of vetting using their own well known researchers, who after the questioning and first several days of recording had decided I was not recycling known information or making up stories that had fooled David Wilcock and his sources.

To the Gaiam TV Teams credit they didn’t want to put their names behind a source who would end up being a huge embarrassment in the future. All of those doing the questioning in the vetting process were well versed in the information I had presented over a long period of time and were looking for any signs of deception. I was heavily focused on the very new experience of video recording in a studio with a crew and was oblivious to the fact that during that time there were events unfolding that would not wait for my return.

I returned home exhausted and was recovering from extreme pain I suffered during the trip and was catching up with my wife and kids. I was actually in quite a lot of pain throughout the entire week we recorded interviews in Colorado. Everyone there was great about the fact that we had to take breaks often from my post-surgery shoulder issues.

We were able to cover a wide range of topics but by the end of the fourth day it was obvious that we had barely scratched the surface of the full details of my prior and current SSP experiences and the information I had access to on the “Smart Glass Pads” while I was in service. It was decided that we would do at least 52 episodes and create an entirely new show around this content called “Cosmic Disclosure”, which I am now told will air Tuesday 7/21.

Gonzales contacted me almost immediately when I arrived home and informed that there had been some pretty big developments in my absence and that he had stepped in to fill the delegate responsibilities in two important Federation Council Meetings. After a couple of days I was finally able to meet Gonzales at a location not far from my home for the short but information packed briefing.

He started off by describing the Draco Federation Alliance meeting with the same 14 foot tall White Royal Reptilian that I and the security team had encountered prior, the Reptilian Honor Guard, the attending Mantid and Insectoid Beings along with the much smaller delegation of human representatives that identified themselves as the “Chairmen” of the Committee of 200.

He stated that he was somewhat overconfident going into this meeting and felt he owed me a bit of an apology. He felt that my description of my telepathic exchange was skewed by a fear reaction and that it was possible that I was reacting viscerally to the White Royal since most of my interfacing (Telepathic Communications with a Non-Human) had been with less intimidating types of beings.

Lt. Col. Gonzales had interfaced with several types of Reptilian and Reptoid beings in his time but he said none of that prepared him for this experience. The White Royal Draco was over 14 feet tall, had a vestigial tail and wings that were not large enough to support him in actual flight. This was a very muscular and intimidating being with a presence like no other. We were both given the same name and title of this Tall White Draco Royal that is being kept as confidential information.

Because of some very troubling events that occurred at my home that involved the targeting and terrorizing of my family we ended up having a second meeting several days later where we were able to discuss his previous briefing in more detail. This was a much more relaxed conversation and he was trying to calm me down from the two incidents that occurred in my home.

I will do a separate report on the incidents at my home where very tall Nordic type ET’s with six fingers invaded the sanctuary of our home twice and why this was allowed to occur. This also will cover an SSP Alliance Council meeting that I attended directly related to these incidents where I was extremely upset and a small falling out between myself and the SSP Alliance Council occurred. This report will be released after the Part 2 of this report is released.

The full details of Lt. Col. Gonzales briefing unfolded in the following manner. He and 4 Security Members (Who were also Intuitive Empaths) arrived at a similar location as the one that I and 4 Security Members had met the Draco Delegation prior. It was a smaller building that was obviously scouted out to be of tactical advantage to the Draco Federation Alliance. I was not given a specific geographic location but this was somewhere in the South West United States just as last time.

In my meeting with the Draco Federation Alliance I arrived in a Blue Orb where the SSP Alliance Team was waiting on a rooftop hovering in one of the 50 foot long modular shuttle craft with the side sliding doors open. In Gonzales case he arrived at the location in the same type of craft with his operation support team. He and his 4 Security Team Members disembarked and made their way down the inside of building that was about 1/3rd the size of the building at the previous meeting site (Floor wise).

Gonzales and his Security Team came out into a hall way and it seemed empty and quiet except the Security/IE’s motioned down the hall with hand signals where they felt the awaiting delegation. When they were most of the way to the end of the hall Gonzales saw a very familiar person. He said this person had to have seen the look on his face and his gaping open mouth. This person introduced himself with his thick accent, droopy eyes and curly white hair. Gonzales said this guy had created so many think tanks, global organizations and advised more U.S. Presidents than anyone he could think of. This person is very well known as a supporter of the New World Order and Depopulation Programs.

After the introduction this man led Gonzales Team into a larger foyer of the closed down Hotel where once again men in suits were standing by a closed down Bar. This time there were only 3 men other than the well-known person who did the first introduction. The 3 men in suits were leaning against the bar in a lounge area where bar stools used to be and a small area where tables and chairs had obviously once stood. This famous bureaucrat then introduced the other 3 men and stated that they were the “Chairmen” of the Committee of 200. This man then began laying down some ground rules for the meeting that was about to occur.

Gonzales could already see movement further into the foyer and 3 different beings moving around as if getting into position. Gonzales and the Security Team all felt that the entire scene was very theatrical and staged. The Chairman who was doing all of the talking singled Gonzales out and told him that if he wished to survive this meeting that he had better show a lot more respect and diplomacy than he had shown at the recent ICC Mars Colony fiasco. None of that type of behavior would be tolerated by the audience he was being granted on this occasion and would result in swift death of himself and his team.

Gonzales told me that after he was sufficiently warned in a very dramatic way by this person they led his team the rest of the way into the large open foyer where he caught his first smell of the musky urine type of odor that I and the others had reported in our prior meeting. The SSP Alliance Delegation was walked by a very intimidating Honor Guard of 9 foot tall Reptilian Warriors who were standing with feet shoulders apart grasping a long staff with a broad sword type blade at the end. Gonzales stated that the Security Team/IE’s reported that they all picked up that this was a theatrical display of force to make sure the SSP Delegation felt that the White Royal Draco was not dealing from weakness.

Standing behind the Reptilian Honor Guard were Mantid and Insectoid Beings who were now being very still and standing in a loose formation. In our last encounter they were roaming about the entire time. Gonzales said he saw the White Royal Draco standing in the front and middle of the formation of these other beings. The team was walked to the front of the White Royal (His Name will be withheld) and was expected to bow according to the Chairman. Gonzales stood tall and did not do so.

Gonzales stood before this 14 foot tall beast and immediately the communication began. He said he was completely taken off guard by the intensity of the penetration of his forehead and frontal lobes. His words were that it “Put me back on my heels”. He said at that moment I knew that my report was accurate. He was certain until that point that I had exaggerated the experience. Just as in my experience the White Royals Eyes were morphing colors (Yellow & Red) and the vertical slit pupils were pulsing and changing sizes to the point that at times its eyes were completely black.

This meeting was different. They did not come to negotiate. They indeed had created the entire theatrical environment to convey that they were not dealing from weakness. The White Royal Draco was making some very serious demands and told Gonzales that a failure to capitulate to them by the SSP Alliance or the Sphere Alliance would be an act of war against the entire Draco Federation Alliance and their Overlords.

It was shocking to hear them mention their Overlords because these White Royals had always put forward the notion that they were the top of the totem pole, the tip of the spear and the pinnacle of the pyramid of power in their empire. We had lots of circumstantial evidence and intelligence that they were very afraid of and served a higher force but until that moment had never received acknowledgement straight from the serpents’ mouth.

The Royal White Draco then made sure that Gonzales repeated what was communicated to him so all could hear it. It was obvious from other intelligence that the prior meeting and their offer to hand over all of their human followers and lower level allies in exchange for the Sphere Alliance allowing them safe passage through the Outer Barrier had caused major splits within their own ranks. This was a show of force that was obviously meant to mend fences and unify their splintered human following.

This same White Royal Draco now made demands wrapped in threats for Gonzales to deliver to the SSP Alliance Council and the Sphere Alliance. The demand was that all of the Draco Federation Alliance would be allowed to leave through the Outer Barrier as they wished and that their human allies would be given clemency and promised no reprisals in future events in a human controlled Sol System.

The White Royal stated in no uncertain terms that they had the power to bring great calamity and war to the surface of the Earth and were prepared to do so. They stated that the Sphere Alliance had not been forthcoming in the true power of their Extra Dimensional Overlords who were now present and ready to do battle beside the Draco Federation Alliance as had been prophesied about their empire millions of years ago.

They boasted that these same ED Overlords were responsible in some way for the entities that we called the ED/ET Artificial Intelligence that is their ally and had conquered entire galaxies. Gonzales stated the grandiose boasting and threats went on for some time in the same theatrical manner before the White Royal Draco let go of his mind and turned and lumbered out of the room with his Reptilian Honor Guard and the Insectoid delegation.

The Chairman then approached them and walked them back the way them came and in the same manner went over how serious the situation was for the surface population of Earth that the Alliance agreed to the terms presented. The Chairman stated that this was an opportunity for a win/win situation and that dismissing it like the Americans dismiss negotiating with terrorists would be detrimental to the population on the surface of the planet. Gonzales said that he had enough of the drama and theatre and just wanted to get his aching and pounding head out of there and back to the shuttle.

Back at the location in North Texas where Gonzales and I were sitting at the table we both became quiet for a few moments as some of this was sinking in. I was putting some of the dots together. Gonzales told me that that they had managed to kill some of the higher caste Reptilians and keep their bodies without them self-destructing. There was some sort of technology that vaporized the remains of the dead Reptilians in most cases. They then analyzed the remains and this had revealed something very disturbing

Gonzales sat back in his chair and could see on my face that I had made the connection already. He made one of those faces where a person smiles but their eyes and forehead have a stoic look and leaned back in. He said “Their bodies were absolutely filled with nanites”! These are some of the most advanced AI bots we have ever seen in living tissue. I asked the obvious question… “Is the Draco Federation Empire nothing but AI Prophets?”

He said AI Prophets, AI Allies we don’t know. Gonzales then said “The info about their Overlords was a key confirmation that they are deeply afraid of and working for beings from another reality or dimension”. He said that they funnel this Loosh Energy to their Overlords and keep some for their selves. He also stated that they work with or use other etheric beings as tools or etheric technology to control people and other ET’s that are in their Federation Alliance. He stated further that this was very sensitive information that had been extremely costly to acquire over the years.

Gonzales stated that these threats were being taken very seriously and that there was quite a lot of chatter of false flag events (Both Financial and Terrorist) being planned to create more Loosh for the Draco Federation Alliance and their Overlords. The Draco Federation Alliance was storing this energy and preparing for an epic battle.

He stated that the Earth Alliance had been infiltrated in a number of ways and that Russia was very upset that the Cabal had managed to do this in order to try to create a NWO 2.0. He stated Russia had some plans to correct this in the near future along with some of their trusted allies.

In Part II we will discuss more of these Earth Alliance Infiltrations, False Flags and Gonzales' description of his first time being the lead delegate at the Human Type ET “Super Federation Conference” where he sat in the delegate chair and spoke to the assembly to deliver some extremely interesting news concerning some of the positive ET groups that had been trapped on Earth for months.

Many of these ET’s were here to study our oceans and jungles and care nothing about our civilization or interfering in our affairs. Their support teams who are trapped inside the Sol Systems Outer Barrier had been requesting their release from Earth for some time. Human and Negative ET Groups had begun to hunt them down to obtain their extremely advanced technology and they were also running out of supplies and needed support. This was addressed in this last conference.

Part II will follow shortly as well as an additional report of recent events that include further details of the Tall Nordic Beings with 6 Fingers who invaded our home and abducted my family (As well as performed a similar operation on a researcher who has been working closely with us). Please stand by for more details to be released in the coming days.

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I understand anything having to do with money in this field in taboo but anything I can do to provide for my family while doing this work is a positive thing. Gonzales receives material support for his role. Working for 6th – 9th Density Beings who see everything as a journey and relating to karma is a completely different place to have to work from. Any of your contributions through Pay Pal, Signing up to Gaiam TV or shopping at our Online Store assist us in this effort is greatly appreciated.

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Stand by for Part 2…

Thank you,

Corey/GoodETxSG

SmokeyJoe1952
9th July 2015, 21:00
Hmmm, T-shirts, DVDs, maybe a book on the horizon? Once money comes into the equation its a full stop on credibility as far as I'm concerned, sorry. Yes its taboo and unfortunately we all have to look after our families and pay bills, I'm having to scrape by on disability and would never dream of getting involved with any sort of funds coming from my disclosures. Feel free to disagree as many of you will, at his age I'm sure he can make a living. I damn well knew it would come to this, dare say so did many others. FFS.

mojo
9th July 2015, 21:15
Thanks to everyone that contributed with comments, and think the truth will prevail in the end. Eventually if its fabrication getting caught up with statements made will need the proof to be required. In some way I hope proof is forthcoming because I would like to believe that he was honest with the audience of thousands of people whom seem to be accepting and following him. And smokey Joe is right Avalon provided the platform strange now the role reversal and the drop kick but oh well. Simon Parkes is still given wide berth which have suspected as another hoaxer with not a shred of evidence whatsoever in all these years. But again, if he brings the evidence forward I will be the first to apologize.

Jengelen
9th July 2015, 21:34
Proof Corey is being handled and fed some of the various information posted is evident I think. I believe most see this anyway. Some modicum of forgiveness if not understanding is in order for this reason alone. Third party hearsay is bad enough with some proof but this may be fourth party or better at times and much of it is not really anything new to most researchers. What is new is one person putting it altogether. Outwardly it appears someone with a research background and higher IQ scans trends and makes model predictions based on some sort of future talk probably based again on web bot stuff such as Cliff High did for a while. These things have proven to have merit to make money. I've made money using it for crying out loud so I know they work. George Ur, and the Urban Survival Website proved it can sure work. So I have no doubt the tech is out there to feed someone predictions. Any person with that background could surely tap that info.

With that said I'm not saying I believe it to be so, but if it looks like a duck well, you know. And as for the other forum. I liked the other forum. I think they have bad choices for mods tho as they need to remove the rose colored glasses and start seeing reality! IMO.

But with that said also I have no animosity for Bill or anyone there or Corey. I think all of us contribute somehow in some way but really some of you seem to blow me away as to how unaware you are of military pay or special ops pay, extended bonuses and these kind of things. My wife and I retired from the service.

Let me paint the picture of the half pay after 20 years for an 06 that is officer known as a Commander in the IHS which is a branch of the Coast Guard. So Indian Health people wear Navy Uniforms with Coast Guard buttons. Just FYI incase you want to know. The other thing is that this Col would be making close to ten grand a month after all is said and done when active duty. At half pay after 22 years he'd be bringing home easily after taxes are paid a cool 4000 net to bank if not $4500 net to bank each month every month for the rest of his life after that.

During active duty there are hazard pay, special pay for harder to fill jobs in hard places like for example oh, dentists in the middle of a huge Reservation. The extended bonus pay just to sign on for another year once your contract was up was $30,000 and that was in the 90s! So add that to the regular pay and you have any active duty guy with time in and time in grade, hazard or higher cost of living areas and what not can easily insure anyone can make $120,000 in the service. It depends on the job so this portion of the argument from my experience is weak. He certainly would have had the income he said he had IMO.

Gretchen
9th July 2015, 23:45
Lift the Veil:

Thanks for posting that latest "Part 1 of 2 Parts" posting by Corey. I finished reading it and wow - it is one creepy story.
I'm just hoping the blue avians and sphere alliance have cooler tech. than these reptiles.

The only "presidential advisor" I can come up with (who met Lt. Gonzales) is Henry Kissinger. Henry K. has curly white hair,
droopy eyes and is one of the 'unholy four.' (Bush Sr, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Henry K.).

Do we need a new thread for this new set of posts, from "Lift the veil's" post and below?
Seems like this stuff is heading into new Corey territory.
Corey's part 2 is supposed to come out tomorrow (Friday)

Corey asks for unity if we want to free the planet... Okay, found a cute symbol: :unity:

Dreamtimer
10th July 2015, 01:22
Tall 6-fingered Nordics? I've heard of tall Nordics. Don't recall the six-fingered part.

I met a guy in college who was born with an extra finger on each hand and they were 'clipped off' when he was a baby. He had scars on the sides of his hands just below each pinky. He was blond and blue-eyed, but not tall. An earthling as far as I know.

URIKORN
10th July 2015, 03:50
Excellent summey :


SECRET SPACE PROGRAMS & ALIEN DISCLOSURES MAY LEAD TO WORLD WAR IF ELITES NOT GIVEN AMNESTY

Written by Dr Michael Salla on July 9, 2015.

http://exopolitics.org/secret-space-programs-alien-disclosures-may-lead-to-world-war-if-elites-not-given-amnesty/





here only a reference to the upcoming 3 reports:


The Lt. Col. Gonzales SSP Council Delegation Briefings Part 1, The “Draco Federation Alliances” Demands & Secrets Revealed, NYSE 1 Day Closure | Corey GoodETxSG

Thursday, July 9, 2015

http://sitsshow.blogspot.co.il/2015/07/the-lt-col-gonzales-ssp-council.html#more


As far as I am concerned I take my time to absorb the material, this, and previous one.
The major difficulty is to be able and organically contain a reality that includes, Draco for example.
It is not a matter of intellectual comprehension of an idea.
It is a biological and spiritual comprehension.
It requires an ongoing inner soaking, absorption, inner processing in ways we can only positively participate with,
with no real understanding of the details.
This goes far beyond whether Corey is accurate about X or Y.
Any big new reality is difficult to absorb.
It is a principle of human future evolution, in my mind

URIKORN
10th July 2015, 07:23
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Corey/GoodETxSG update on latest demands of the Draco Federation Alliance

http://www.ladydragon.com/news2015/09071501.html


MONTREAL--(LadyDragon.com)09/07/15--8.58pm EST, LadyDragon wrote - Briefing given to Corey from Lt. Col. Gonzales of his meeting with the Draco Federation Alliance, the Committee of 200 “Chairmen”, and his first time to attend the Human Like “ET Super Federation” conference sitting in the delegates chair and his meeting with Raw-Tear-Eir.

After much delay and turbulance on every level including his family in order to shut up and scare Corey off.
Carey kept his courage and kept moving forward, as the brave man he is, with his disclosure of the forbidden knowledge that he has to tell us.
This has not been without cost which he will address in his third update.
In this first update he is telling us about Lt Gonsalez and his experience in dealing with the white draco.
Plus, interestingly enough, the dracos are not the Top Dogs that they claim to be.
There might be AI involved in all of this.
For those who are not familiar with this in-depth disclosure from Corey, AI means Artificial Intelligence.
The AI that Corey is talking about is very advanced, like we saw in Stargate Atlantis.
Now we have Humans, the new TV show this year that complements what Corey and his Alliance are very concerned about.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4122068/

Below is a great illustration of the White Draco


Before writing this article LadyDragon asked Corey for clarification on why this White Draco's name was so secret ?
Like we are seeing White Dracos walking down the street every day, right!
Corey explained the reason why the name of the White Draco is kept secret is because some very unwise people will call on the name of this being for its power.
Many do not realize that when we put these beings into our consciousness we put ourselves into their consciousness.
There is power in the name of these beings and using their names in incantations and other rituals is not something we want to support by accident.
Two more questions were asked by LadyDragon
2- What did the Blue Avians say about the demands of the Dracos ?
This will be in the next article. :)
3 - What did the Blue Avians say about the aliens that are being hunted, are they going to be allowed to leave ?
Again, covered in great detail in part 2 :)
More updates will released by Corey in the next few days, meanwhile you can read the details of Corey's first update below.

Plus, while this article was being prepared Corey had this to say on his Facebook
Thank you for all of the supportive comments.
Remember what it all comes down to with the info I and others are presenting is to use your own discernment...
Work daily on becoming more Loving, Forgiving (Of self and others stopping the wheel of karma), working to become service to others (While NOT becoming a doormat to others, stand up for yourself in a loving/forgiving way) and work to raise your consciousness and vibrations on a daily basis...
Remember We are ALL ONE, No one more important than the other. Loving others is loving ourselves!
The info I am presenting is fully angering the Cabal/Illuminati/Draco Overlords in a HUGE WAY!!!!
They are working on those with weaker character and spiritual fortitude to use as tools to lash out and attack myself and those who work with or support me in any way.
(Bloggers and Forum Posters mainly).
Remember the 3 D's of a disinfo campaign when a disclosure initiative has an effect: Decoy, Distraction, and Deception.
I think a 4th D would be added "Division".
It is not about ME (The messenger)...
It is about the message!!!
Please focus on the message and apply it to your lives and lead by example.
Leave the Karmic Energy to those who are behaving with dishonor and knowingly in a reactionary and emotional way.
Forgive and love them as you would want done to yourself.
I was recently given a poster that had the same golden rule for 9 groups including the Maya "You are myself, We are all ONE" by Popol Vuh...
Learn it, Live it... Love it :)
This information comes from and is all about LOVE & FORGIVENESS which is not from the Cabal or the Negative Forces as all of you well know/feel.
This is not their philosophy or way of controlling humanity. It is through Division.
This IS how we will defeat the opposition,
Corey/GoodETxSG

Maunagarjana
10th July 2015, 08:35
I clicked a few minutes into the video to hear what they're talking about, and it was around 29:30 where David Wilcock starts talking about the Great Pyramid and apparently now he's saying that the Blue Avians built it.


David thinks the Blue Avians are Ra. Ra describes how they built the great pyramid in session 3 of the Law of One.

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=3

Aragorn
10th July 2015, 16:44
Do we need a new thread for this new set of posts, from "Lift the veil's" post and below?

Please don't. We've got way too many threads dedicated to Corey and/or Wilcock already as it is. It's almost as if every time I blink, somebody starts a new thread about them. Well, okay, in a manner of speaking. :p But it hasn't even been 24 hours yet since I had to delete another Corey thread, with the exact same material as what lift the veil posted in this thread here. And then somebody goes off and starts Yet Another Corey Thread™.

:fpalm:

The One Truth is about so much more than just Corey Goode or David Wilcock. ;)

mojo
10th July 2015, 20:26
I see what you mean including my recent thread as well. Please close my thread Aragorn, don't need to add to it.

Aragorn
10th July 2015, 21:03
I see what you mean including my recent thread as well. Please close my thread Aragorn, don't need to add to it.

I have not really read through all of your thread, friend, but from what I could see, it appears to be centered more around Brockbrader and Wilcock than around Corey. I don't really see a need to close it -- at least, not yet -- but I will do so if you really want me to. I'll leave it up to you. ;)

mojo
10th July 2015, 21:45
Thanks we can leave it for now. Cheers

URIKORN
12th July 2015, 02:10
This post is not new.
It is new to me. Originally, I think, it was posted in Avalon.
As I gradually gather publications by Corey I reached this piece of material.
Whoever is not familiar with it will have the opportunity to read it.

http://goodetxsg-secretspaceprogram.blogspot.co.il/2014/12/concerning-various-secret-space.html

Concerning the various “Secret Space Programs” and "Allied Non-Human" views of the ET “Artificial Intelligence's" and AI Signal Spectrum's Ifluencing Our Technical Society, "As Above, So Below"

As someone who has an inclination to philosophycal thinking the basic new thing for me in this post
is the claim that there is such a thing/entity as self aware intelligence devoid of conscience. in my
mind, up to yesterday, I did not believe that such a state exists in reality. Now I contemplate it as
a possible reality

Aragorn
12th July 2015, 02:59
[...]
As someone who has an inclination to philosophycal thinking the basic new thing for me in this post
is the claim that there is such a thing/entity as self aware intelligence devoid of conscience. in my
mind, up to yesterday, I did not believe that such a state exists in reality. Now I contemplate it as
a possible reality

It is also possible that there is a third possibility, which is that the "A.I." in this case would not actually be an A.I., but that we would rather be dealing with a mistaken interpretation. For instance, it is possible -- at least, in my imagination -- that this being would in fact be a purely energetic life form from another universe -- one very different from ours in structure and organization -- and that this being has somehow made its way into our universe, and as such, needs electrical fields in order to be able to sustain itself here.

: Sherlock: :)

URIKORN
12th July 2015, 04:49
it is also possible that there is a third possibility, which is that the "A.I." in this case would not actually be an A.I., but that we would rather be dealing with a mistaken interpretation. For instance, it is possible -- at least, in my imagination -- that this being would in fact be a purely energetic life form from another universe -- one very different from ours in structure and organization -- and that this being has somehow made its way into our universe, and as such, needs electrical fields in order to be able to sustain itself here.

: Sherlock: :)


In his writing Corey, if I understood correctly, writes that human like ETs consider something like that which you proposed.
At the same time we must also remember the following:
Corey claims that laboratories, here on earth, can produce in quantum computing something that
erupts into a self autonomous "creature".
So, is it a natural quality of light-energy down below that once given the right "arrangements" it discovers itself ?
Various options.

Another thought: It occured to me that this "Living Intelligence" may qualify to the type of entity called Lucifer

URIKORN
12th July 2015, 05:16
Emanual Swedenborg is one of the main influences on my short life of ignorance and attempts to learn something of value
before I pass away.
I read one book of his, a couple of times over the years: Heaven and Hell.
It was through him that I became quite confident that we survive death.

And to our AI topic here.
Swedenborg describes the angels as belonging to 2 main categories.
Angels of Light - Thought - Understanding
Angels of Warmth - Good - Love - Life - Wisdom
The later are closer to Source

If I remember correctly he also speaks of those in whom the light and the heat are harmoniously together.

The metaphore here is that of a fire: it's inner heat, and then the spreading light


By the way: Swedenbord wrote a small boog with the title: Life on Other Planets
http://www.swedenborg.com/archive/products/life-on-other-planets/

So it occured to me: many call themselves "Light Warriors"
Is it possible that they suffer from a tini wini quanta of vanity ?

Jengelen
12th July 2015, 11:38
Seems just as possible that the headache associated with being in their vicinity as reported by Corey and Gonzaleas then maybe they were infiltrated with nanites then and there to bring them home to all of us. The thing I don't get is that if the blue orbs can so easily take out those guys from a prison cell why not grab up all the slaves too and bring them home just as easily!? Why all the wait? It doesn't add up cause we all know the wait is simply to profit longer off it. Run it out sequels even. I lose a lot of faith once it starts becoming a biz model.

RikkiTikkiTavi
12th July 2015, 12:37
Why all the wait? It doesn't add up cause we all know the wait is simply to profit longer off it. Run it out sequels even. I lose a lot of faith once it starts becoming a biz model.

If the people are kept fed drips of information installments the operation can be stretched out indefinitely. Sort of like the war on terror. The more benefits are gained by the "handlers". Also, they may need more time to review the chatter and to revise the plot and scripting. It's a sad situation.

Jengelen
12th July 2015, 16:47
Emanual Swedenborg is one of the main influences on my short life of ignorance and attempts to learn something of value
before I pass away.
I read one book of his, a couple of times over the years: Heaven and Hell.
It was through him that I became quite confident that we survive death.

And to our AI topic here.
Swedenborg describes the angels as belonging to 2 main categories.
Angels of Light - Thought - Understanding
Angels of Warmth - Good - Love - Life - Wisdom
The later are closer to Source

If I remember correctly he also speaks of those in whom the light and the heat are harmoniously together.

The metaphore here is that of a fire: it's inner heat, and then the spreading light


By the way: Swedenbord wrote a small boog with the title: Life on Other Planets
http://www.swedenborg.com/archive/products/life-on-other-planets/

So it occured to me: many call themselves "Light Warriors"
Is it possible that they suffer from a tini wini quanta of vanity ?

Another book on that subject you may want to retrieve is this one titled, "The Presence of Other Worlds" The Findings of Emanuel Swedenborg by Wilson Van Dusen. It is probably one of the five most significant life changing books I've digested in this life, more than once actually. The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep being another.

lift the veil
12th July 2015, 19:39
As posted by Corey Goode on the Sphere Being Alliance blog here http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/hack-statistics-and-the-battles-in-our-skies-and-oceans.html


The Massive Push to Cause Some of the Cabal's Prophesies to Come True

re: Sputnik News: "Massive US Federal Employee Hack Six Times Larger Than Original Estimate"
http://sputniknews.com/us/20150709/1024429716.html#ixzz3fhAldkhr

The powers that are soon to be gone have released this statistic about the recent hack(s). It is still just the tip of the iceberg of what really occurred. This also occurred in the EU and was far more pervasive than they are letting on.
This hack was a treasure trove of data to add to the data dumps of the future.

I have also received reports of more battles occurring in both the skies and under the oceans here on Earth between groups unrelated to the SSP Alliance. There have been some massive explosions in the upper and lower atmosphere. Many of them are occurring out at sea and reports of them may come from people that work on the oceans etc. Some are occurring over land and well up in the upper atmosphere. There is also quite a bit of weapons testing going on right now as well that shouldn't be confused for some of the activity I mentioned in the update. There is a massive push to cause some of the Cabal's prophesies to come true to bolster their followers. Damascus being destroyed and the world seeing smoke rising up from the fallen city is a major one. They have also tried to have Israel and NATO (Pretending to be Israel) attack IRAN several times. These attacks were unsuccessful because of interventions from a few positive groups. The number of false flags that have been prevented that we will all find out about some day will blow the minds of the public. These failed false flags have frustrated the opposition forces greatly. Not all of these can be stopped, there have been quite a lot that have been so far that is for certain.

In my upcoming article "The Lt. Col. Gonzales SSP Council Delegation Briefings. Part 2: Super Federation Conference, Blue Avian Meeting and SSP Alliance Council Events" I will discuss the relaxing of the Earth containment barrier that Gonzales announced at the human-like ET Super Federation conference. The Sol system's outer barrier still stands and is dual purpose. It keeps certain beings in and others out of the Sol system and it is also apart of Sphere Alliances network that is helping diffuse incoming galactic/cosmic energy waves by a certain percentage and time period (unknown to me). With the relaxing of the Earths containment barrier we may begin to see quite a few new UFO reports and interesting anomalies in the skies.

RikkiTikkiTavi
12th July 2015, 20:30
Quoted and posted the following from Corey's latest update "...it is also apart of Sphere Alliances network that is helping diffuse incoming galactic/cosmic energy waves by a certain percentage and time period (unknown to me)."

Okay, so who is on who's side?

Dr. Simon Akins has good evidence that a wave of energy is most definitely traveling through our system and in his opinion, CERN is being used to deter the energy wave affects, which also in his opinion, is to assist with our mental/physiological evolution.

(See the post by MrCasual in the General Discussion section of the forum here; http://jandeane81.com/threads/7214-An-alternate-theory-for-Jade-Helm-%E2%80%9CIntergalactic-Wave%E2%80%9D ) Links are given to his recent interviews.

And so Mr. Goode's story does not and has not addressed CERN at all, which I find curious, as it would seem to me that such an operation would most definitely incorporate AI at some point. And so the sphere beings are regulating the energy wave. Are the Draco overlords responsible for the wave? That is supposed to help us evolve? Or, is this wave just coming at an inconvenient time that just so happens to coincide with the overthrow of the nasty's. And on and on....

Food for thought....:scrhd:

modwiz
12th July 2015, 21:01
Simon Parkes has spoken intelligently about CERN, IMO. I find the public Simon to be a compassionate human with good information. The private Simon is his business and none of mine.

modwiz
12th July 2015, 21:11
The One Truth is about so much more than just Corey Goode or David Wilcock. ;)

In theory, if not in practice. I would like to see it practiced. A lot easier to talk about people though.:fpalm:

SmokeyJoe1952
12th July 2015, 21:18
I too would like to see emphasis placed away from Corey Goode, David Wilcock and Simon Parkes and placed more on the very many great threads here at TOT who are ignored of late. (And before any busybody says NO I'm NOT referring to anything of mine).

Aragorn
12th July 2015, 21:27
Simon Parkes has spoken intelligently about CERN, IMO. I find the public Simon to be a compassionate human with good information. The private Simon is his business and none of mine.

The "public Simon" -- as you describe him -- is just a façade, fellow Middle-Earthian, and that phony compassion is all part of the deception. He's a deliberate disinformation agent, and like all psychopaths, he knows that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. His private life is actually tied in with that, rather than that it would be a completely separate aspect of the man.

Just because he tells an interesting story -- self-contradictory, inconsistent and perpetually changing as it is -- doesn't mean that he'd be telling the truth. Furthermore, a good disinformation agent will always blend certain amounts of truth into the lies in order to make them more plausible. And undoubtedly, he will be familiar with Corey Goode's material, so it lends credence both to Corey's story and to Simon's own story if Simon were to corroborate some of Corey's statements. That doesn't mean that Simon Parkes wouldn't actually be an ET contactee, mind you. He's definitely in contact with mantis beings, reptilians and whatever else have you, but it just so happens to be that the information he presents to the public about his entire experience -- and about his own role in that -- is a deliberate deception. He claims to be aligned with humanity -- and that the mantis beings would be rather supportive of humanity as well -- while in reality, he's actually in service of the Dracos and their agenda.

In addition to that, both Corey and earlier whistle-blowers have reported that the Dracos are actually allied with the mantis and other insectoid beings, whereas the picture Simon Parkes paints about the mantis beings is not consistent with these earlier reports.

Jengelen
12th July 2015, 22:02
Suppose Corey was working with the government just as he said, and a tech guy at that doing what he said. Now lets suppose that someone 'studied David W." and maybe even had access to all his private communications ever voiced or written on media of some kind including those listened to by the google snoopers, face book, and forums, and phone lets not forget those. Some say if you are near a modern day toaster or kitchen appliance it spies on occasionally sending texts of what was said that it picked up to these guys.

So someone is getting this data. We all know that and now this guy comes up and says all this stuff that David or Bill or anyone else has already heard and they know that because they got to read it before talking to them so they knew in advance what David or Bill or anyone was expecting to hear. I find this far more plausible and considering the level of hacks to the government lately why not consider David, Bill and everyone on the forum was also hacked too!?

Aragorn
12th July 2015, 22:21
Suppose Corey was working with the government just as he said, and a tech guy at that doing what he said. Now lets suppose that someone 'studied David W." and maybe even had access to all his private communications ever voiced or written on media of some kind including those listened to by the google snoopers, face book, and forums, and phone lets not forget those. Some say if you are near a modern day toaster or kitchen appliance it spies on occasionally sending texts of what was said that it picked up to these guys.

So someone is getting this data. We all know that and now this guy comes up and says all this stuff that David or Bill or anyone else has already heard and they know that because they got to read it before talking to them so they knew in advance what David or Bill or anyone was expecting to hear. I find this far more plausible and considering the level of hacks to the government lately why not consider David, Bill and everyone on the forum was also hacked too!?

Personally, I'm not buying that. From my interactions with Corey -- off of the forum -- during the past 8 or 9 months, it is my impression that Corey absolutely believes in what he says. So if he's not telling the truth, then maybe he was programmed -- he is after all a MILAB, and I've expounded on this before. But there's no doubt in my mind that Corey is telling the truth as he knows it -- his ego issues all aside, because he's only human and the MILAB thing does typically come with a certain degree of PTSD. In addition to that, if Corey, as an ex-MILAB victim, is somehow selected to have these (real or implanted) experiences, then that would also explain why he started manifesting certain symptoms of a Messiah complex -- the bold purple text, the paranoia regarding criticism of himself and his endorser (Wilcock), et al.

Shadowself
13th July 2015, 12:46
I too would like to see emphasis placed away from Corey Goode, David Wilcock and Simon Parkes and placed more on the very many great threads here at TOT who are ignored of late. (And before any busybody says NO I'm NOT referring to anything of mine).

Indeed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMpW2dBeeUg

donk
13th July 2015, 13:30
In theory, if not in practice. I would like to see it practiced. A lot easier to talk about people though.:fpalm:

Yes, yes, it’s well past time to move on…nothing to see here, no lessons to be learned. This forum reaction is just totally boring and all of us enlightened beings are ready to move forward…

How did we get to a thousand members BTW? What was the convos about these cats like a couple months ago? Was there anything to be learned about alt-media celebritydom/guruism, forum dynamics, group think (and manipulation)…or ourselves….

Nah….the ambassador has an elite team working hard on the business of saving the world…we better get back to it…it'd be stupid to talk about these guys on a thread dedicated to it, when such things' REAL intention always seem to be to tell anyone interested how important it is to speak of something else...it's never ok to expect a thread to stay on a topic like this, they are actually just great places to tell each other how much we need to "move on"...

RikkiTikkiTavi
13th July 2015, 16:21
In my opinion, (yep, we all have at least one), forums are the platforms that are provided to us for the discussion and debate of ideas that individuals have an interest of. These ideas can and do most often pertain to "people", their ideas, beliefs and what they consider is truth.

When a person takes on the responsibility of informing other people of what a certain truth is, then it should be well known by the person that there will be other people that will question the integrity of the professed truth. This does not necessarily call into question the integrity of the person's character, however more often than not, it does. I personally don't hold anything against Corey as a person. I question the truthfulness and accuracy of his information. Regardless of whether if he believes it is the truth or not.

If the topic of the thread is too popular or irrelevant to the individual reading this, then by all means fill free to mosey on over to another subject. But, please be aware and consider that for some people there is relevant information contained within this and other threads that can be viewed as educational in personal development. As has been pointed out there are patterns of occurrence's that can possibly be viewed as instructional material to better educate one's self on how to better discern and think critically in order not to be taken advantage of.

I am fairly sure that we can all agree that much of the situation that we inhabitants of this planet find ourselves in is due to the lack of discernment and critical thinking skills of the vast majority.


"Enlighten the people generally, and
tyranny and oppressions of body and mind
will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day."

~ Thomas Jefferson to Pierre Samuel Dupont de Nemours, 1816

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SmokeyJoe1952
13th July 2015, 18:55
I'm both a Milab victim and a Milab (hate to use the word as it sounds very bad) Perp, in that I worked with Milab teams, In January 1980 I was diagnosed with severe PTSD, the same doc diagnosed that a year later after I left AL/499 for the second time. Over time I hope I have proven myself with credible information, over the past 21 years. I wonder if we can say the same for Corey Goode in 20 years time?

donk
13th July 2015, 19:54
Are you jealous of the attention?

You are a long time contactee that shares your experiences. He is some kind of alt-media creation with a sort of “phenomenon” where his story’s cult following has some weird energy draw that fits a pattern within this community.

Apples to oranges in my eyes, why would you compare yourself to him? He can't hold your jock...you need us to tell you that? :hug:

Jengelen
13th July 2015, 21:32
Many of us have had contact. I myself was taken for the first time that I recall at just above the age of three. Other than seeing Dutch boy looking men that is about all I can contribute other than marks on my arm indicating being there after someone there pointed out to the one that brought me and quite angrily, that I had already been there, that I was marked, "See and he points to the spots on my right arm" I never noted them before then. Anyway, the guys mad and the other one has to take me back. It just shows they make mistakes as the guy took my cookies one of which was for my brother and both of which my grandmother made but then he takes me back to the wrong back yard in the wrong state where I was found hours later wandering a Maryland highway on a Feb morning until being seen by someone that noted I was dressed and met the description of the little boy on the radio missing from WV across the river, a big river, the Potoamac! Police, firemen and more were all searching for me for hours. The entire town lit up but anyway, they are up to no good. Why do that to a kid on a cold winter day?

So the idea that any good et exists seems a bit presumptive. Info we have seems to indicate the other way to be honest. The other thing that I don't know about the rest of you guys but with some of the gurus I have a lot of problem with someone that doesn't do what they say they will do when they say they will do it. This happens repeatedly with GoodET where he says I'll post this at this time and days later where is it? Nowhere to be seen! That is nothing I'd pay for ever. Be consistent or don't bother trying. If you can't follow through on your promises, particularly after someone buys into it, its no longer entertaining, its frustrating.

SmokeyJoe1952
13th July 2015, 22:05
Are you jealous of the attention?

You are a long time contactee that shares your experiences. He is some kind of alt-media creation with a sort of “phenomenon” where his story’s cult following has some weird energy draw that fits a pattern within this community.

Apples to oranges in my eyes, why would you compare yourself to him? He can't hold your jock...you need us to tell you that? :hug:

I do not compare, surely its obvious that I'm trying to give my perspective of the individual and the ever increasingly fantastic claims. Jealous? Please thats below contempt and does not deserve a response. I've been around the block too many times and am at the top of my game. Please no further insults re envy thats below your intelligence level. I do not need nor require any attention, never have done. The times I agreed to interviews are a small percentage to those I have turned down over the years. There are attention seekers out there, you probably know their names.

mojo
14th July 2015, 02:53
Dracos are actually allied with the mantis and other insectoid beings

Im not sure all the names of the ETs, one I called insectoid in my 2011 interview, because of how it looked. It was behind a control panel that was illuminated 50-60 feet away, you could see it clearly. It was insect like, tall and triangle head with large eyes. It was part of a collective of ET's that visited the Oregon location. They were definitely allied and working together, tall greys, short greys, a humanoid looking woman. "Dracos" sound evil, like they might be negative but that collective that visited was not negative. Why do people believe Simon? Honestly I dont know much about him, except that he didnt come across authentic and never watched his videos, I tried once but couldnt get past a couple minutes and he claims such special knowledge, that I very much wish to know about. But no way does the evidence support such intimate knowledge. Its just another story and like Modwiz mentioned talking about people is not the way but looking at their story is.

donk
14th July 2015, 14:33
I do not compare, surely its obvious that I'm trying to give my perspective of the individual and the ever increasingly fantastic claims. Jealous? Please thats below contempt and does not deserve a response. I've been around the block too many times and am at the top of my game. Please no further insults re envy thats below your intelligence level. I do not need nor require any attention, never have done. The times I agreed to interviews are a small percentage to those I have turned down over the years. There are attention seekers out there, you probably know their names.

If this isn't a comparison, I am not able to productively communicate with you:

Over time I hope I have proven myself with credible information, over the past 21 years. I wonder if we can say the same for Corey Goode in 20 years time?

I meant no insult, in fact insulting you is so far from what I was trying to do--I am really sorry you took it that way. I was sharing a perspective...a huge part of which you seemed to have missed. Apologies, with respect.

I really wish we could seperate Corey's experiences (stories) from the experience we are actually having, and discuss why it is that it is in our awareness. But everyone wants to seem to either discredit or prove the "data"...which is either further from the point than discussing his character--which is actually a puzzle piece to me, when it is actually sharing experiences with him and what he says to you (in an emotionally detached way).

lift the veil
15th July 2015, 01:24
http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/the-lt-col-gonzales-ssp-council-delegation-briefings-part-2.html

http://spherebeingalliance.com/thumb.php?src=e_MEDIA_IMAGE%2F2015-07%2Fpart2_super_federation_conf.jpg&w=900&h=300

***Please note, as this is an extensive article only an introductory portion is posted here. Please go here for the full article ---> http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/the-lt-col-gonzales-ssp-council-delegation-briefings-part-2.html



Super Federation Conference, Blue Avian Meeting and SSP Alliance Council Events.

The world we live in is far more remarkable than most people could ever have imagined. Our military-industrial complex has secretly colonized our solar system – and beyond.

The technology that already exists, today, built by defense contractors who hold corporate facilities here on earth, satisfies every wish you’ve ever had for a high-tech future – from any sci-fi movie you could possibly think of.

I know this is true because I worked in this world. I lived in this world. I walked away from it in 1989, except for a few stray assignments – but that all changed when I decided to come forward as a whistleblower in 2014.

An alliance has formed within what we call the Secret Space Program, or SSP. The goal of the Alliance is to defeat the “Babylonian Money Magic System” and end financial tyranny on earth.

The Alliance wants to restore order and justice and civility to our world – and release the planet-healing, life-extending, hyper-futuristic technology they possess to everyone.

All the bases and colonies they have constructed will be made available to us if this plan is a success. And traveling to them will be just one portal hop or shuttle ride away.

My main contact in this world has been Lt. Col. Gonzales. The experiences he and I have been having seem very “far out” to most people, and have led to inevitable skepticism.

If you are new to this story, it may all seem quite impossible to believe. I understand that. My job is simply to tell you the truth of my ongoing experiences.

This article is a follow-up to Part 1, where we discussed some of the information that Lt. Col. Gonzales had briefed me on in two separate meetings he had not far from where I live.

We discussed Gonzales’ dramatic meeting with the Draco White Royal, and his interaction with four of the chairmen of the Committee of 200 when he stood in as the main delegate for the Sphere Beings that are helping us out.

We are going to rejoin those two conversations and pick up where we left off to discuss the other meetings that Gonzales attended in my absence.

This all took place while I was off shooting the Gaiam TV show “Cosmic Disclosure” with David Wilcock. If you have not completed Part 1 of this article, I would recommend doing so before reading Part 2.

It definitely appears that writing these articles and doing this new show has also increased the amount of “negative greetings” (as DW calls them, based on terminology from the Law of One series) I have received recently.

I am not a huge believer in coincidence. The number of negative things that have occurred to my family and myself since I was briefed by Gonzales, started writing updates and working on these articles is incredible.

These negative incidents have been so in-your-face and clearly intentional that it is more than obvious that this is a Yin and Yang sort of energy battle for balance occurring.

***For the rest of the article, go here.---> http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/the-lt-col-gonzales-ssp-council-delegation-briefings-part-2.html

Rocket's Mom
15th July 2015, 02:00
The Lt. Col. Gonzales SSP Council Delegation Briefings Part 2 - by Corey Goode

Grateful for the update. . .but it doesn't feel like the same messenger as previous. the info doesn't even mesh. .the writing is different for certain. Oh well. . .Things are really changing quickly, aren't they????

Aragorn
15th July 2015, 02:26
The Lt. Col. Gonzales SSP Council Delegation Briefings Part 2 - by Corey Goode

Grateful for the update. . .but it doesn't feel like the same messenger as previous. the info doesn't even mesh. .the writing is different for certain. Oh well. . .Things are really changing quickly, aren't they????

As I understand it, Corey is now using the Dragon Naturally Speaking software, which is speech-to-text software. Before that, he was typing everything by hand himself on a several-years-old laptop. That could account for the differences in punctuation, text formatting, et al. ;)

URIKORN
15th July 2015, 02:29
http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog/the-lt-col-gonzales-ssp-council-delegation-briefings-part-2.html


The Lt. Col. Gonzales SSP Council Delegation Briefings Part 2

by Corey/GoodETxSG

13 Jul 2015 : 08:33

Super Federation Conference, Blue Avian Meeting and SSP Alliance Council Events.



In Facebook Corey writes that it was accomplished after some sort of resistence.
He meant to air it already on Saturday


Sorry Sorry Sorry

I did not notice that others before me reported the same event.
I was on page 7 and did not notice that page 8 already exists.
I leave it because it was an innocent mishap and a funny one

Gretchen
15th July 2015, 03:00
As I understand it, Corey is now using the Dragon Naturally Speaking software, which is speech-to-text software. Before that, he was typing everything by hand himself on a several-years-old laptop. That could account for the differences in punctuation, text formatting, et al. ;)

Thanks for this explanation, Aragon.... I wondered about this too.

Regarding "Part 2":

A number of interesting items in this one, that have to do with the mechanics of how he is getting all this information.

I love the "translation chair" that the Delegate gets to sit in, and can understand all the ET languages!

The idea of some kind of 'temporal lobe" is interesting, way out there where they don't see stars or planets, but they meet in this rather secret-sounding conference center.

I love the idea that every type of technology we can imagine is there and developed. It's time to let us all have it !

Also, seems like some of his information is starting to mesh with Benjamin Fulford and Cobra, especially around BRICS and how so many of the European countries want out of the EU... very interesting...

What I couldn't understand, quite, in this latest "Part 2" is whether or not King Draco the Lizard and his minions, who want outta here fast are going to get to escape or not... because it sounded like, in Part 1, King Draco threatened a lot of bad stuff if they weren't allowed to escape from the solar system....

Ooh baby baby it's a wild world....and outer world too...:hmm:

Dracon
15th July 2015, 03:14
Oh goodie more lies about me lol

mojo
15th July 2015, 03:32
I like your new avatar Gretchen... Dracon I know you jest, do you think the Dracos exist and have been given a bad rap? It's one more piece of the puzzle, as I do not believe based on observation that the mantid is a bad/negative entity....

Dracon
15th July 2015, 03:40
Draco deserve the rap they get.

I was talking about this.


Two of people have now sent me quite a number of Skype logs and email conversations among a small but dedicated “cell” of bloggers, forum moderators, former friends and once well-known researchers who have been conspiring to bring down David Wilcock and myself.

Gonzales had told me that this was going on, but the scope of it, and the amount of spite, unethical behavior and outright hatred in how they spoke about us and conspired with each other, has been truly shocking.

One of the people in question is talented at audio remixing. He has produced edited and fake skype conversations to make David and myself appear to have a said or written certain to each other and to the person doing the cutting and splicing.

David and I both keep local copies of all his Skype calls and text.log files for our own protection, in case of events just like this. It will be very interesting to identify exactly how this was done, and which questions were deliberately planted to generate useful audio clips in response.

Having this handful of people contact me and make amends has been a nice balance to the Yin and Yang of the negativity that has been going on (not so secretly) in the background.

Aragorn
15th July 2015, 04:00
Oh goodie more lies about me lol


I was talking about this.


Two of people have now sent me quite a number of Skype logs and email conversations among a small but dedicated “cell” of bloggers, forum moderators, former friends and once well-known researchers who have been conspiring to bring down David Wilcock and myself.

Gonzales had told me that this was going on, but the scope of it, and the amount of spite, unethical behavior and outright hatred in how they spoke about us and conspired with each other, has been truly shocking.

One of the people in question is talented at audio remixing. He has produced edited and fake skype conversations to make David and myself appear to have a said or written certain to each other and to the person doing the cutting and splicing.

David and I both keep local copies of all his Skype calls and text.log files for our own protection, in case of events just like this. It will be very interesting to identify exactly how this was done, and which questions were deliberately planted to generate useful audio clips in response.

Having this handful of people contact me and make amends has been a nice balance to the Yin and Yang of the negativity that has been going on (not so secretly) in the background.

Which part of that elaboration is a reference to yourself, other than the word "bloggers", which seems to pertain to more than one person?

If it's the "audio remixing" part -- which I don't know whether you would be skilled at, given that I don't know you very well -- there is one person I know whom Corey refers to as "someone who is trolling him", and that particular person is a musician and is indeed somewhat experienced at audio mixing. So it doesn't necessarily have to be a slight at you -- even though we all know that he doesn't particularly like you. ;)

Dracon
15th July 2015, 04:16
I am a musician, an audio engineer, and the one who fixed his interview. It is most definitely me he is talking about :). He has already posted the same accusation elsewhere and included my full name and bands website.

It is also myself who spoke with DW, and although I don't, he believes I have copies of our chats recorded.

Edit to add: He has already told DW I have posted faked/ altered Skype log conversations. allegedly I am feeding said convos back to "The Cabal". So really this is just the step up.

It originates from this forum in fact. He said he was going to post the audio from my chats with DW right here on this forum. I called his bluff by saying I have them too (which I don't).

Aragorn
15th July 2015, 04:34
I am a musician, an audio engineer, and the one who fixed his interview. It is most definitely me he is talking about :).

Well, okay then. I thought that he could have been talking of that other guy whom he also doesn't like, and who is also a member here.


He has already posted the same accusation elsewhere and included my full name and bands website.

It is also myself who spoke with DW, and although I don't, he believes I have copies of our chats recorded.

Edit to add: He has already told DW I have posted faked/ altered Skype log conversations. allegedly I am feeding said convos back to "The Cabal". So really this is just the step up.

It originates from this forum in fact. He said he was going to post the audio from my chats with DW right here on this forum. I called his bluff by saying I have them too (which I don't).

The water keeps on getting muddier and muddier, doesn't it? ;)

SmokeyJoe1952
15th July 2015, 04:36
If this isn't a comparison, I am not able to productively communicate with you:

Over time I hope I have proven myself with credible information, over the past 21 years. I wonder if we can say the same for Corey Goode in 20 years time?

I meant no insult, in fact insulting you is so far from what I was trying to do--I am really sorry you took it that way. I was sharing a perspective...a huge part of which you seemed to have missed. Apologies, with respect.

I really wish we could seperate Corey's experiences (stories) from the experience we are actually having, and discuss why it is that it is in our awareness. But everyone wants to seem to either discredit or prove the "data"...which is either further from the point than discussing his character--which is actually a puzzle piece to me, when it is actually sharing experiences with him and what he says to you (in an emotionally detached way).
No problem, no offense taken, I'm sure we can communicate in a reasonable and courteous fashion, some say I'm a bit harsh but years of working within these fields does that to you. I agree we are never going to prove or disprove what Corey claims, I'm just a bit fed up with the few really gullible people whom relish every word he says.. I too am having to work on an old desktop PC which is now almost 6 years old, it has fits and starts and not too reliable, but I do my best when the bugger decides to work.

mojo
15th July 2015, 06:58
say I'm a bit harsh but years of working within these fields does that to you.

That is a somewhat profound statement. Ive said my piece about summoning in a recent video and it did not go as expected. Now your statement rings true for me. But I would still rather have people that share the same interest warn me about the pitfalls of human nature. Maybe that's how I see this affair with the OP here. Corey and Wilcock both seem decent folks of whom I would like to meet face to face and would be better than interpreting the words written by them. But thats what we have to go by. I truly hope that the lesson is in the presenting of evidence that corroborates the verbal testimony. Bring it on Corey and David and I will be the first to eat humble pie...;)

Roisin
15th July 2015, 14:19
"sanctioned" by whom? From the outset I watched Corey Goode as his story unfolded, began with lengthy colorful posts (literally, he does like colored text) and each time the data output increased, masses of info it seemed, non verifiable of course but it was fascinating to watch the ongoing drama. As far as I can tell Corey has only been in the public domain around a year or so, he might well say he was friends with such and such for years but his appearance openly was only a short while ago. Its difficult being a whistleblower for a number of reasons and can have some empathy with Corey but I've been around the block a good many times and had reservations. Segments of my original disclosures were fully sanctioned by Defence Intelligence, as noted at that time with Miles Johnston. Its far from easy to give full total 100% proof in this game and realise everyone has the right to question, not attack as I've had to endure, but question, seems Corey got miffed every time someone politely asked questions. I guess this saga is far from being over. Lets watch and wait.

For all we know, gov't and private data mining operations may be he real originator's of these whistleblowers stories that are circulated on the net. They hire people to be the whistleblower for any given "story" and they may also hire those who are in a position to promote those individual's and their stories.

Here's a good starting point on Data Mining: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining

The object is to get people engaged in conversation on those stories on the net in various venues for the purpose of data mining.

RikkiTikkiTavi
15th July 2015, 14:31
There was a comment made on a site that featured information on the Mars colony inspection just recently. To paraphrase, the commenter asked;


Since there is a barrier (that has been in place for some time) that disallows any beings from entering or exiting the solar system, how is the ICC Mars facility remaining to do business? With the 900+ different groups?

Yes, I would say that the barrier would most definitely put a damper on business, to say the least. I guess economics, failed recoveries, inflation and deflation are not prone to just planet Earth.:tea:

Regarding Ganzales' Report: Part 2

Interestingly the majority of part 2 is explaining how there is much negativity being directed towards the information being released. As well as claims of being harassed and threatened with edited recorded files.

Forgiveness, I agree, it is a wonderful action that can benefit a great number of people. On the other hand, does one continue time after time to forgive a person who repeatedly abuses another, or others, when the abuser knows their actions are abusive? Yes, it gets deep, as truth is a personal subject, as is abuse.

So in part 2 there is no mention of sphere's or blue avians. Just as well, I guess. However we were treated to the observation that Gonzales usually drinks ice water or tea (sweet tea?) and he keeps an eye on the chatter regarding the the information being released.:fpalm:

When all is said and done I may end up eating crow, until then I am being very skeptical of the presentation of this information. If this is sinful, may I be forgiven.:priest:

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Dreamtimer
15th July 2015, 15:02
RikkiTikkiTavi, good observations. It doesn't make him look any better, continuing to go on about skypes, emails, audiomixing.... I think he'd look better if he just stuck to the story. He did talk about forgiveness but it was too jumbled up with all the stuff about harassment.

There was a brief mention of Gonzales meeting with Tear-eir and that the barrier around the earth is 'relaxing' and that things might be more visible as a result. He also said that the spheres will be diminishing their 'buffering' of the energies coming in.

I'll admit I'm curious how he'll relate his story about the six-fingered Nordics.

As a beer drinker, I'll take that part of the story as a :thup: Loose Cannon anyone?:chrs:

Only one though, or :very_drunk:

Jengelen
16th July 2015, 01:53
Come on. If we are on Mars or the moon for that matter, how come they still pull crap like this then? Well, the site refused the link for whatever reason. NASA posted a picture supposedly of Mars but its Ireland! Anyone care to explain?

Aragorn
16th July 2015, 02:18
Well, the site refused the link for whatever reason.

Might be because it was a Facebook link. Not everything on Facebook is visible to non-Facebook members. ;)

lift the veil
18th July 2015, 16:29
Update from Corey as found on the Sphere Being Alliance facebook page here https://www.facebook.com/BlueAvians/posts/1474850426146082


Update: For those interested in the Audio of my last article that is now on YouTube. It is very cool that this person has taken the time to do this. Much appreciated... smile emoticon

I am flying out with the family tomorrow to go to do another week of video shooting with both George Noory on two episodes of his show "Beyond Belief" and then get as many episodes of our show on Gaiam TV "Cosmic Disclosure" recorded as possible.

I have been going over the amazing content at Gaiam TV and am making notes of the huge library of video's by various researchers that are directly in line with the Blue Avian Message. I will post that update and a list of those video's in the next few days.

*** Remember, our show on Gaiam TV is airing this coming Tuesday, the 21st of July! ***
The first 2 Episodes will be free to the public. Please also remember to sign up for memberships through the link that gives me monetary credit for your new account at Gaiam. That link is below;
Gaiam TV Sign Up Link (Credit to Corey): http://www.gaiamtv.com/?cid=aff:amb:cg:al000

I have another article on the SSP Alliance Meeting that had a lot of drama between a few members and myself after the security issues were allowed to occur at home. This was the incident where very tall Nordic beings who had 6 fingers invaded the sanctuary of our home. I will give some details on those unpleasant experiences as well.

Summarizing the details for that report is still very upsetting to me. Even though what occurred was uncalled for in my opinion and we have every right to be angry... There is still a job to do. Gonzales has been mending fences the best he can since that fiasco to his credit as a diplomat.

We are getting a lot more of the same kind of intelligence briefings about what is occurring down here on Earth as well as out in the Sol System. Most of the information has been so similar that there is nothing remarkable (that can be reported) to report.

In the next article I will discuss more about the increase in the high density energy waves (As reported by Tear-Eir) that we are encountering as our Sol Systems flows into this part of the Torus of our Sol System.

The "Spheres" seem to nearing the end of their purpose as they are also beginning to buffer less and less of the energy thus allowing more and more to enter into the inner Sol System and directly effect the Sun, Planets and HUMAN BEINGS that are so easily put into trigger mode by these energies.

At some point the Spheres will be gone and we will fully be considered a 4/5th Density Transition Civilization. There are of course quite a few other EVENTS that will be occurring before this last EVENT leaves us standing on our own finally.

The opening of the Earths barrier and going back to enforcing security grids and airspace has been difficult the last few weeks. It has proven to be the right thing to do however according to data received from some of the groups that were trapped here.

In the mean time, no matter what they are saying through their Illuminati and Cabal zealot followers... No One in the Draco Empire, Its Federation Allies nor any other negative groups that have been referenced as part of the Orion Syndicate/AKA Orion Group are going anywhere!

They are all stuck inside the Sol System that has turned out to be the biggest etheric and spiritual evolutionary honey pot around. Both the Negative and the Positive of us are being forced to deal with our karmic energies right now. There is no escaping it.

The pleasure of seeing how many are moving to focusing on being Loving, Forgiving (Stopping the wheel of karma), becoming Service to Others while not being a door mat or taken advantage of by the negative forces... Those working on raising their vibrations and honing their powers of their co-creative Consciousness.... HAS FAR outweighed the effects of the number of people I have seen succumb to the "Dark side of the force" and become triggered or eaten up by their karmic energies recently.

Its a very difficult thing to observe and the details as usual are always very sorted. Now more than ever is a time to have our guards up spiritually and be ready for anything the negative side tosses our way out of desperation.

I have just suffered alongside my family for weeks dealing with just such attacks that have been made out of panic by opposition forces. Their goal was to make us back down. Their attacks had an opposite reaction on both us and others attacked who are more determined to see this through now than ever before.

I will be logging in and answering questions and responding to people who post in the discussion page where the shows are going to be published on Gaiam TV's website. I look forward to chatting with you there as well as here.

I do hope those who can afford Gaiam TV do give it a try. It really is like an online spiritual and consciousness university. I would recommend spending more hours on these videos and less time on the MSM Propaganda Machine. (That is just IMHO though) smile emoticon

If you decide to give it a try please do make sure to use the Gaiam TV Sign Up Link though (Credit to Corey): http://www.gaiamtv.com/?cid=aff:amb:cg:al000

As stated, More Updates and another Article on its way.

Thank you very much to everyone who has been buying tee shirts in the store (@ SphereBeingAlliance.com), donating and registering memberships through my Gaiam Link. Every little bit helps. The letters of blessings and positive energy after my Aunts Diagnosis has been the most uplifting thing of all.

Thank you,
Corey/GoodETxSG

GoodETxSG (Corey Goode): : The Lt. Col. Gonzales SSP Delegation Briefings Part 2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icfsv02q9wE

URIKORN
20th July 2015, 18:01
To be honest, and why would we not be honest, I find it less and less tasty to point out
my interest in Corey Goode in this framework, namely TOT.
So I take my interest back to the only framework that worked for me for decades: my private domain.
The way I see it: It is a poor victoty of various mockers with whom I have no desire to spend time and attention.
As long as you will suffer me I shall glean in from time to time.
I know there are good honest people in here but somehow the gntle wind of truth is quite missing here.
I hope the reader will take it as an honest assessment of a disinterested visitor

mojo
20th July 2015, 22:16
somehow the gntle wind of truth is quite missing here

my apologies for the earlier rude comeback that admin deleted which was ok it was wrong for me to do that. Two wrongs don't make a right. I'm interpreting the above comment as a put down to the forum as a whole.

Dreamtimer
21st July 2015, 04:20
Urikorn, you're quite the piece of work. I have met and prayed with Sufis, as I stated. I also know many who have family/have lived in Israel.

May you one day actually find someone in all of God's creation who lives up to your standards. Maybe you and the Wiz can get together.

Keep up the poetry. It'll bring you closer to Gaia.:swing:

OneOfLaw
21st July 2015, 06:48
What you consider to be the cabal has future predicting technology.

They could indeed see quite accurate predictions for a long time thus being able to use mass mind control and coercion tactics:

movies
games
disinformation
scaremongering

(all of them are predictive programming)

The aim was:

co-opting humanities joint consciousness creation abilities to alienate humans in the sense of tricking humans into believing in these hoaxes which is accompanied by low vibrational energy discharge due to the fear-mongering. ( = mind control)

They did hope that enough humans getting absorbed by it to actually manifest their intentions which they were able to foreshadow with the so called "looking glass" technology up to a certain point (! years ago).

What they did not realize: they are the creator, therefore this technology shows them what they expect/wish/anticipate to see. It thereby displays "possible outcomes" (!) that are inseparably intermingled with the consciousness of those who use it.

Since the human awakening surpasses their wishful imagination the reality differs from what they predicted with looking glass.

Therefore it fails and they become insecure and anxious, thus the predictions are totally inaccurate which devastates all of their plans and ability to orchestrate. They simply lost control.

Since most whistle blowers (regarding actual off-world pre-disclosure) are influenced by their former covert activities (MILAB, secret space programs, off world service and alike) so is their now shared intelligence. Their received information often relies on the hallucinated predictions that have been made with the discussed technology.

For instance, the anticipation of the cosmic event. That is, the disclosures of those who spread the narratives communicated by those whistle blowers therefore are "served" with disinformation to certain extents.

This happens on purpose to distract you from the NOW-reality.

That is, be prepared to experience certain events earlier than they have been foreshadowed through specific disclosure sources who work with somewhat inaccurate (flawed/co-opted) intelligence that derives from sources that themselves have been co-opted and duped.

As always there is a certain amount of truth mixed with a smaller amount of disinformation which distorts the offered truths and distracts followers who already might (and) have created a strong attachment to specific sources/narratives.

Use this information to train and facilitate your discernment abilities.

Aianawa
21st July 2015, 07:38
From memory, getting past the 12 12 window 2012/21/12, was a no go for looking glass ?.

Aragorn
21st July 2015, 07:43
From memory, getting past the 12 12 window 2012/21/12, was a no go for looking glass ?.

That's what Bill "Wood" Brockbrader told Kerry Cassidy, but I believe that "Dan Burisch" reported that they had looked much farther into the future with it already.

According to "Dan Burisch", we would be on a specific and unknown variant of two main time lines -- we would be on Time Line #1, and Time Line #2 would have put us smack in the middle of World War III by now -- but Brockbrader's claim was that the two time lines would have converged on the 21st of December, 2012, and that all bets were off for what would follow after that date.

I have my own considerations with regard to "Dan Burisch" -- I don't trust him -- but, in my humble opinion, Brockbrader was only spouting nonsense about Looking Glass because that was the only way he could get Kerry Cassidy's interest. She wouldn't have granted him an interview otherwise, because he only touched upon Looking Glass in the last 15 minutes of his interview, and everything else was about his role as a Navy SEAL in Iraq -- if that was all true, even -- and his conviction for statutory rape.

OneOfLaw
21st July 2015, 17:57
From memory, getting past the 12 12 window 2012/21/12, was a no go for looking glass ?.

it should be still operational, but it is all inaccurate "BS" since it is linked directly to their consciousness which is confused and anxious, almost panic. the script of this timeline says otherwise as well as the collective awakening consciousness of humanity as well. In fact they have other concerns than that, they dissolve during the next few years after the impact, they know this - but these years are going to be intense and challenging for most of humanity.

lift the veil
21st July 2015, 21:14
Corey's interviews on GaiamTV were posted today. You can access them on their website here. http://www.gaiamtv.com/seeking-truth/lp-cosmic-disclosure#watch_episodes

They have also posted the first episode (below) on their Youtube page. They may put up the second one as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukpPtzvracg

heysoulsister
22nd July 2015, 02:21
After much observation it is clear to me that both of these gentlemen are very clever at data mining

and repackaging and marketing

RikkiTikkiTavi
22nd July 2015, 15:29
Not much of anything "new" given in the first four episodes. Corey does seem to be more confident (with David's leading). Corey seems to be sincere, however, something still feels amiss to me. The smart glass tablets were portrayed very nicely in the 2007 movie "The Last Mimzy".

Steve
22nd July 2015, 15:44
Seems stiff to me. You'd think he'd be much more impassioned and excited given his "experiences". Seems more like he's concentrating on not giving 'tells' of his nervousness and possible lies.

Fail.

RikkiTikkiTavi
22nd July 2015, 16:38
Seems stiff to me. You'd think he'd be much more impassioned and excited given his "experiences". Seems more like he's concentrating on not giving 'tells' of his nervousness and possible lies.

Fail.

Yes, Steve. Exactly. More impassioned and excited, like explaining whatever and say, " oh yeah, there was this time that blah, blah, blah". And considering he was an "Intelligent Empath", he would have a lot more to say about his experiences. His answers come across to me as very broad, basic and generalized.

Daozen
22nd July 2015, 17:33
Not much of anything "new" given in the first four episodes. Corey does seem to be more confident (with David's leading). Corey seems to be sincere, however, something still feels amiss to me. The smart glass tablets were portrayed very nicely in the 2007 movie "The Last Mimzy".

Which would tend to support the data-mining/limited-hangout hypothesis.

URIKORN
22nd July 2015, 18:00
I watched the 4 first episodes.
There is no doubt, as any reasonable sensitive and discerning person will ascertain
that Corey is utterly and innocently honest.
There is no doubt whatsoever that every fact he asserts as one is a fact.
In short a perfect and straight forward testimony which only envious beings or trolls will
make an attempt to dbeunk.
Since this is so clear and obvious the only thing left is to digest the facts and their meaning.
Just a shopping list of Reality components. What's the big deal ?
So let us thank the courier and open the package he delivered.
No answer is required or expected

Daozen
22nd July 2015, 18:03
In short a perfect and straight forward testimony which only envious beings or trolls will
make an attempt to dbeunk.

Yes. I am envious those azure winged wonders chose him. Why not me?

Now ask Donald Marshall what those Blue Birds mean. But who would dare talk about Don?

Jengelen
22nd July 2015, 18:42
I watched the 4 first episodes.
There is no doubt, as any reasonable sensitive and discerning person will ascertain
that Corey is utterly and innocently honest.
There is no doubt whatsoever that every fact he asserts as one is a fact.
In short a perfect and straight forward testimony which only envious beings or trolls will
make an attempt to dbeunk.
Since this is so clear and obvious the only thing left is to digest the facts and their meaning.
Just a shopping list of Reality components. What's the big deal ?
So let us thank the courier and open the package he delivered.
No answer is required or expected

I watched the first two and left unconvinced so what happens in three and four that sways you? Name a fact!

Daozen
22nd July 2015, 18:45
They have smallish beaks. That's a fact. They come in giant spheres and they want us to be more forgiving. 2 more "facts".

Dracon
22nd July 2015, 18:48
Now ask Donald Marshall what those Blue Birds mean. But who would dare talk about Don?

Also valid to point out that Donald first spoke of them about two years ago.

Daozen
22nd July 2015, 18:50
But who is Don? They are fighting over his future, right? The alt media is busy distracting itself all over the place. They won't touch him. Who is he?

Dreamtimer
23rd July 2015, 00:03
Searched this forum. Mr. Marshall made an appearance back in April on the Hollywood Insider thread. Breeze mentioned that he spoke of blue spheres two years ago and Sooz posted a 2/26/13 you tube video w/Vinny Eastwood.

And then there's Shadowself's post...

ctiger2
23rd July 2015, 00:46
I just wonder if someone would truly have the balls to lie of this magnitude. It seems highly unlikely unless you're a complete sociopath... like a politician.

Daozen
23rd July 2015, 12:43
And then there's Shadowself's post...

Which post is that? Cheers.

URIKORN
23rd July 2015, 14:37
http://in5d.com/corey-goodes-gaiamtv-interview-and-voice-analysis/

from this article by by Gregg Prescott:

I analyzed Corey’s voice with the nanoVoice software. The most common notes in his voice are G and F# and both showed up as the color BLUE.

The key of G means: Game player, likes to mix and manage the physical aspects of life, motivated by future events.

The key of F# means: One who carries out the plans, doer, intuitive about the needs of others, shares and loves wholeheartedly.


The color BLUE means: indicative of an overall love for humanity, the ability to put others first, an emotional perspective and possible naiveté.

His next two most prominent keys were A# and B, both in the color RED.

The key of A# means: Highly intuitive, reads between the lines, can put aside self for others, likes mental games, hurts easily.

The key of B means: Link between self and universe, needs harmony and balance in personal life and occupation.

The color RED means: indicative of a physical call to action but without a lot of thought for the consequences of the action. Red likes to see and do things first before the rest of the crowd.

bsbray
23rd July 2015, 16:41
I analyzed Corey’s voice with the nanoVoice software. The most common notes in his voice are G and F# and both showed up as the color BLUE.

Aww. I thought it was going to be one of those lie detector voice analyzing things.

Psychologists have done studies where they supposedly go to a very experienced astrologer with the birthdays of a group of people, get individualized readings, and go back and give these readings to everyone in the group and ask them to read their reading and rate how accurate it is for them. The messages talk about the strengths and positive traits of each person, based on the date of their birth and astrological signs and all of that, of course.

Almost everyone in these groups agree: this is a very skilled astrologer and got all kinds of information about them exactly right, knowing nothing but their date of birth. And then everyone in the group is told to compare their readings with each other. And in reality they all received the exact same "reading," which was basically just full of a bunch of positive affirmations that most people would like to believe about themselves, regardless of when they were born.

So I guess the moral of the story there is that anything that tells people about a bunch of positive traits they have, based on any kind of generic criteria, is likely to be believed no matter how accurate it really is.

Dreamtimer
23rd July 2015, 17:07
Contact Point, same thread, starting at #24 and on. Very interesting. More to be told certainly.

I haven't heard of nanoVoice software. My brother-in-law got a crash course in palm reading once and was quite popular that evening. Until, he told me, he ran out of things to say. I said to him, "That's when you tell them that the spirits are no longer speaking this evening." (I don't do readings of any sort):whstl:

Aianawa
24th July 2015, 08:55
lol once again this will play out far too slowly for me/most, imo when working with the noosphere/collective mind, slow is best and in my reality we are going at a 100 miles an hour compared to just a few years ago, moving up dimensions is only enjoyable if your not willing to comprehend lol

Susan
24th July 2015, 13:42
If my mind opens anymore I'll be a whole lot more confused. Too many stories. My opinion on this is very simple... We need contact now. I am fed up with all these stories from everyone! Seeing is believing and believing is seeing. Simple as that. Let them have contact with us not with one person or a couple!

Jengelen
24th July 2015, 14:17
If my mind opens anymore I'll be a whole lot more confused. Too many stories. My opinion on this is very simple... We need contact now. I am fed up with all these stories from everyone! Seeing is believing and believing is seeing. Simple as that. Let them have contact with us not with one person or a couple!

DITO! Put up or shut up! On one extreme we have a guy, an astronomer and very good apparently and he has been saying and pretty much proving for years nothing leaves our atmosphere! He has the ability to see it start to finish but it never manifests as a ship leaving the orbit of earth for his scope!? What is that? Is it then a lie to say we were even outside the oxygen bubble ever? This guy shows pretty good evidence everything goes up, arcs and then comes back on a downward trajectory and yet we're to believe there are payloads going to some space station!

Then on the other extreme a guy saying not only were we on the moon but we're on mars and out there! One has to wonder who has more substantial proof!? So far to me the astronomer does!

RikkiTikkiTavi
28th July 2015, 01:58
FB posts by A.L. Webre; https://www.facebook.com/groups/alfred.lambremont.webre/

7/27/2015

"IRONY OF THE DAY!!!!! It was James Corey [Corey Goode] himself who last week first raised my suspicions that something was amiss in his operation. I was on an email thread with Corey Goode and an email contact in Tel Aviv Israel and Kerry Cassidy and one or two other radio hosts were on the email thread.

A few days before the email exchange with Corey here I invited him for an interview, my Israeli contact forwarded me a link to the Article by Shane stating that the Blue Avians was a mind control meme as being propagated by Corey. My Israeli friend then forwarded me Corey's response to my Israeli friend in which Corey states negative things about Shane. After I met Bradley, I later forwarded Corey's negative appraisal to Bradley Loves, who showed it to Shane and both told me that Corey had fabricated false facts about Shane's life in this message in the format of a disinformation operative.

Corey and my Israeli friend were emailing back and forth very rapidly. So I decided right there and then to ask Corey for an ExopoliticsTV interview.. My request was formal accompanied with all media credentials. Corey's response was silence and to quickly exit the email thread. In my 40+ years of journalistic experience, including with major media, I have know this to be coverup flight behavior. The next day, synchronistically I was contacted by a blogger who put me in touch with Bradley Loves and Shane and within 48 hours we had broken the story of the Blue Avian Illuminati mind control meme here on Facebook. In Light, Alfred"

ps - From an Exopolitical point of view, there are multiple intelligent Avian extraterrestrial races in our Universe, many of whom are probably blue. I myself was told that I am from an Avian planet which is why I am so observant. The point here is that it appears there is reasonable doubt that the Blue Avians that James Corey is enmeshed in are a genuine Exophenotype. Rather these "Blue Avians seem to be an MKULTRA mind control meme by available evidence."

"BLUE AVIAN MEME & COMPETING ET FALSE FLAG EVENT TO GENUINE ET APPROACHES As I wrote, the Avian Exophenotype is quite genuine and documented. You can find it online in the literature as well as in my book on the OMNIVERSE. I am sure there are multiple races of intelligent Extraterrestrial Blue Avian civilizations. In fact, I was told that I am from an Avian planet and this accounts for my perceptive nature. I do believe there is reasonable doubt that the Blue Avians that James Corey is pushing are a genuine Exophenotype. Rather, I do believe they are a mind control meme, to be used as part of a competing false flag ET landing using advanced neural remote mass mind control holographic technology in competition with the genuine ET approaches from ethical upper dimensional ET races in the coming time period. That is the underlying game that is being played out here,James Corey, through propagation by key Gatekeepers such as Wilcock and Salla, amplified by GAIAM TV, is a great way to load the subconscious of the cultural creatives so that they too become vistims of the holographic false flag ET event, manipulated by inner neural remote technology. Remember "Even the Elect shall be deceived" IMHO. Does this help you understand more clearly what I mean?"

Aianawa
28th July 2015, 05:31
Imo their will neither niether be et false flags or blue avian intervention, humanity will slowly do it themselves, information/data around the truths of past in many guises will continue unabated including Corey/Wilcocks.

Daozen
28th July 2015, 09:34
DITO! Put up or shut up! On one extreme we have a guy, an astronomer and very good apparently and he has been saying and pretty much proving for years nothing leaves our atmosphere! He has the ability to see it start to finish but it never manifests as a ship leaving the orbit of earth for his scope!? What is that? Is it then a lie to say we were even outside the oxygen bubble ever? This guy shows pretty good evidence everything goes up, arcs and then comes back on a downward trajectory and yet we're to believe there are payloads going to some space station!


Hi Jengelen. Do you have the name of this astronomer? I was reading an insider testimonial the other day and he said something along similar lines.

Cheers.

Jengelen
28th July 2015, 11:53
Hi Jengelen. Do you have the name of this astronomer? I was reading an insider testimonial the other day and he said something along similar lines.

Cheers.

Edit: I feel this is just gang warfare and a power shift from a rival gang. That rival gang being the break away aspect of our society that took the tech and developed it with the help of the old guard, the Khazarian Mafia! So if we see them for the gang members they really are and take the suits and ties off and pant suits and such for the woman, and then replace it with gang attire on each side you have a better idea of the animal being dealt with on both sides of this.

One the power base that created the shadow group that left the planet developing god knows what? This group apparently recently made a move for taking control. Note that this is after the reported deaths of Saville in the UK a reported Wizard of the highest magnitude and seventh son of a seventh son to prove it! Then of course George Bush Sr. reportedly who died months ago and once these two were gone that is when it all fell apart. Note this is when the rival gang on any major city corner block or street would make their play also in this same way!

The shadow group probably does really want to come home, even at the cost of revealing some of the tech so long as they are forgiven for their crimes and you realize they are in charge here now and will hand over the gang that sent them off world giving them the authority to do what they did. Little did they know the empire mafia lied to them also and if they truly discovered just recently that a big lie was perpetrated against them and their own people well, isn't that a twist that there could be truth under it after all? Just a thought. Whatever it is it is not for the better of humanity. Have you seen the tee shirt shop for Blue Avians?

As to the question.

Phil Plait but he rarely posts or comments videos these days.

Jengelen
30th July 2015, 19:42
Bill Ryan posted this earlier and gave permission so in case you have not seen it.....

Re: The Corey Goode affair: various updates from David Wilcock
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Folks, I have to say this. I cannot sit on my hands any more about certain things.

I may have been late to know about it, but my attention was just drawn to this:

Here is The Sphere Being Alliance Souvenir Shop.

I honestly thought this was a joke. But, OMG. I can still barely believe it, truly.

What a circus. At least it's being seen for what it is. The guys pulling these puppet strings must be rolling around with laughter. (I mean that, too.)

The rest of this post could not be more serious.

This makes a mockery of and dishonors anyone who is an integrity-driven whistleblower. Real whistleblowers run the risk of being killed, maimed, trashed or jailed for their courage. I very highly recommend the outstanding 1999 Al Pacino and Russell Crowe movie, The Insider — which was a true story.

In 2008, I lost a good friend, who spoke out. His name was Jon Danner. One of the nicest people on God's Earth.

Jon had recorded a short audio message that Kerry and I played at a conference, announcing that he was planning to 'come out' to tell his astonishing true story live, in person, over the coming months.

He collapsed and died three weeks later, while Christmas shopping with his family.



Jon's grieving wife said this to me in a phone call:
He didn't want to be famous, he didn't want money. He just wanted to help everyone.
This is exactly the man I knew.

Corey, you dishonor true, honest, humble heroes like my friend Jon. You're part of a psy-op. You're a self-obsessed, narcissistic sociopath. And you're being used. The only two people who can't see this are yourself, David Wilcock, and the entourage who are milking this financially for all they can.

It completely disgusts me.

Anyone is welcome to cross-post this anywhere for all to see. I encourage that. I stand by this. It's a farce, a mockery.

It will of course all end in tears (when the assets are no longer useful) — but by then, there will quite likely have been quite a lot of damage done to the entire research community who have been working REALLY hard, for many years, selflessly (read that word again) to uncover layers of the truth.

Anyone is also welcome to contact me for the fullest details of the story behind the scenes. This includes Corey having contacted others to try to find 'dirt' on me that he could publish. And smearing another presenter by quietly planting false stories about them to attempt to ruin their career. All this is on record.

It should also be stated on record that according to Sam Hunter (former Avalon member 'justone'), Christine, who had initially interviewed Corey, financed him with $1,200 to 'help establish his brand'. (That would have been my money that was used, if that in fact happened.) It seems, according to Christine's own comment here, that she has also since been shunned by Corey.

Sam had written here: (In reply to his own earlier post. I am assured this is verbatim)

Quote That is exactly how I started out with Corey. I was asked to join a healing group through Skype several months ago. Corey was in that group. I had only a few passing comments with him while in that group. On March 15, 2015, my Skype lit up. It was Corey directly Skyping me. Previously I had gone to Christine (former PA mod) to ask her about Corey. Christine is a good friend and she was very supportive of Corey at that time including providing him his key launch into the next level of what now is an obviously planned out "self branding" plan. She told me he was the real deal and I could trust him. So on March 15th or there about I asked her again. She was still supportive of Corey. It was soon after that in many of my lengthy Skype conversations where Corey stated "out of the blue" - (paraphrased) "The Blue Avians insist all this information to be free!"

This is just a small example of why I question the rest of his stories... trust me - just one very small example of dozens...
Quote I guess the Gaiam executives read ToT... within hours of this post, Christine was contacted and repaid her $1,200. Supposedly "Ocifer Martinez" lent the money to save his "brand"... hahaha

I wonder how Gaiam will respond if a lawsuit emerges for defamation of character (slander) of a well known competitor? Are you still reading Gaiam? I hope your contract has an escape clause.
I do NOT know whether this is true, but I asked Sam what on earth this was about. He replied that he had heard this from a very reliable source who knew both him and Christine well.

~~~

Enough. The entire ET research community should be either laughing — or hanging its head in embarrassment. The slow-motion train wreck is all pretty hard to watch.

bstuart
30th July 2015, 19:57
Enough. The entire ET research community should be either laughing — or hanging its head in embarrassment. The slow-motion train wreck is all pretty hard to watch.

On the bright side, Corey's narrative is what led me to The One Truth forums. :tea:

Yet, after watching how he responded so poorly to criticism, and then abruptly left the forum to pursue making $$$ with his story with Wilcock and Gaiam, I can't say that I'm at all surprised at the above revelations.

SmokeyJoe1952
30th July 2015, 20:08
Us old timers, some call us veterans, are totally bloody ****ed off by the way certain individuals place themselves online with fantastic almost unbelievable claims, saying they are here solely to enlighten the community with hidden truths and then are seen to give you data in one hand whilst the other hand is reaching for your wallet. I'm sick to death of these people. Some of us have damn well suffered greatly over the years, some paid the ultimate price for daring to speak out. Only family and VERY close friends know EXACTLY what I have been thru personally since 2005. These great individuals have stuck by me and remained silent on this at my request, but what they could tell you would turn your hair grey. Enough is enough with these damn people whom are destroying any notion of full serious disclosure.

donk
30th July 2015, 20:27
Enough. The entire ET research community should be either laughing — or hanging its head in embarrassment. The slow-motion train wreck is all pretty hard to watch.

um...who put the train on the tracks and saw it out of the station, really got it rolling...hmmm???

Cmon, we all knew it was coming:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNZove4OTtI

Hugh Mann
30th July 2015, 21:27
My philosophy is to believe nothing unless I witness it with my own two eyes but don't toss the baby out with the bathwater either. Another-words I believe nothing but wouldn't be surprised if it was true. Treat all info as if you were sitting in a courtroom. If it comes from a third party, it's hearsay. If it's anonymous, it's hearsay or bovine fecal matter. If there's nothing to back up a story, it's probably bs. Most information coming from the net or from so called ex-government employees is more than likely a disinfo or psy-op campaign. In this case, time will tell and if it is all a load of crap, these people are probably going to catch hell for it. So I'm just sitting back and watching the events unfold. My gut feeling about the whole affair is a good one but I really don't trust a "gut feeling" because this is something most of us wants and the feeling maybe false hope. IMO, humanity needs disclosure whether humanity is ready for it or not. I believe humanity is ready because 80%+/- of the population believes in ET existence. We'll see....

ZShawn
30th July 2015, 21:40
I wonder how the volume of human opinion is to be a gauge for getting disclosure....
more likely a gauge for foisting an op on everyone would be the way that plays out.

any disclosure, by the ones who matter (which would be the others, in any case), would only occur once we all grow up substantially and this I think will not be very likely for decades if not centuries given the way things have been going.

Jengelen
30th July 2015, 21:57
um...who put the train on the tracks and saw it out of the station, really got it rolling...hmmm???

Cmon, we all knew it was coming:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNZove4OTtI

Still that had to be a damn difficult post for him to click submit on! I bet he sat there a few thinking first. Thanks Bill!

donk
30th July 2015, 22:17
Still that had to be a damn difficult post for him to click submit on! I bet he sat there a few thinking first. Thanks Bill!

Well if ya really wanna speculate what he was thinking, my best guess is after the solid whooping the respected Dennis gave Selene, who's "open" mindset we are to ignore/forget about when the entire team was aggressively defending just a few short months ago...he probably felt real good the rest of the flock (and folks like you) would miss the hypocrisy.

But that's just my reading of the thread. I can see how PA/Bill can stand strong in their "no responsibility for Corey" stance. They good discerners over there, and who woulda thought Corey could be wrong back then?

Just my perspective. It sho didn't seem difficult for him to click submit when he chastised people for compromising "goodET" security, or any other post he made when he was the exciting new whistleblower

Divine Feminine
30th July 2015, 22:49
Still that had to be a damn difficult post for him to click submit on! I bet he sat there a few thinking first. Thanks Bill!


Well if ya really wanna speculate what he was thinking, my best guess is after the solid whooping the respected Dennis gave Selene, who's "open" mindset we are to ignore/forget about when the entire team was aggressively defending just a few short months ago...he probably felt real good the rest of the flock (and folks like you) would miss the hypocrisy.

But that's just my reading of the thread. I can see how PA/Bill can stand strong in their "no responsibility for Corey" stance. They good discerners over there, and who woulda thought Corey could be wrong back then?


Just my perspective. It sho didn't seem difficult for him to click submit when he chastised people for compromising "goodET" security, or any other post he made when he was the exciting new whistleblower

Bu, buu, butt yoouu guuys.....how can you say this about a self-professed A2?!! wink....wink...

donk
30th July 2015, 22:53
I feel sorry for even joking about this...seriously you guys. The first sphere alliance item will be the first merchandise ever in the history of ufology (not counting books/appearances/"data").

Can this be for real? The laughing Bill describes can only be at him (and us) for creating an environment where this joke/experiment/psyop can even exist

Jengelen
30th July 2015, 23:50
Well if ya really wanna speculate what he was thinking, my best guess is after the solid whooping the respected Dennis gave Selene, who's "open" mindset we are to ignore/forget about when the entire team was aggressively defending just a few short months ago...he probably felt real good the rest of the flock (and folks like you) would miss the hypocrisy.

But that's just my reading of the thread. I can see how PA/Bill can stand strong in their "no responsibility for Corey" stance. They good discerners over there, and who woulda thought Corey could be wrong back then?

Just my perspective. It sho didn't seem difficult for him to click submit when he chastised people for compromising "goodET" security, or any other post he made when he was the exciting new whistleblower

I wouldn't know the drama from over there. I've not belonged or visited until today and recently and even then only a few times as a guest. I doubt in that capacity that I could even read the good stuff.

donk
31st July 2015, 00:18
I wouldn't know the drama from over there. I've not belonged or visited until today and recently and even then only a few times as a guest. I doubt in that capacity that I could even read the good stuff.

Well my point is that no one seems to want you to know that, any "credibility" the phenomenon that is goodETxSG got started there, with him.


http://youtu.be/yFk1NvRziro

'Round here we're just guilt of boosting it :ninja:

Pebbles
31st July 2015, 22:53
I am a musician, an audio engineer, and the one who fixed his interview. It is most definitely me he is talking about :). He has already posted the same accusation elsewhere and included my full name and bands website.

It is also myself who spoke with DW, and although I don't, he believes I have copies of our chats recorded.

Edit to add: He has already told DW I have posted faked/ altered Skype log conversations. allegedly I am feeding said convos back to "The Cabal". So really this is just the step up.

It originates from this forum in fact. He said he was going to post the audio from my chats with DW right here on this forum. I called his bluff by saying I have them too (which I don't).

I was just reading this post of bradley loves, of which a link was posted by Alfred Webre on "ascention with earth" today. https://bradleyloves.wordpress.com/2015/06/24/corey-goodes-trip-to-mars-and-then-some/ In the comments there (at bradley loves) is this piece of Omnisense saying: "The ruiner is a friend of mine. He sent me a screenshot of a conversation between him and Mr. Goode where Corey said he was on the payroll and “it is what it is.” I’m sure theruiner would send you it if you emailed him.

There is a constant stream of disinformation coming from alleged contactees. you are right to question contactees, and that is coming from someone who is one….

-Omnisense"

So aparently everybody lies....I don't know but all this drama on who is wrong and who is right makes me want to dump the alternative media altogether...there are so many people hating eachother and having personal issues with eatchother in this field, that it's actually hard to believe anyone who is hateful or resentfull . I'm not a fan of Alfred Webre, this Bradley guy, I've never heard of before and all of a sudden everyone is bashing corey now, who's the next to be bashed.

The point is, with all this negativity the world will certainly not become a better place any time soon....as far as I'm concerned : whereever there is drama there are lies and truths, therefore I just observe and see what will happen, but nobody of all these whistleblowers, experts, bloggers will be credible as long there are these drama's and accusations back and forth....

Rocket's Mom
1st August 2015, 02:09
Hi Pebbles:
Maybe it is all about perspective and not about who is wrong or right. There is a lot and I mean a TON of finger pointing, naysaying and negative stuff flinging everywhere. To say 'go inside' to find the answers makes some folks cringe. This just means sit still, relax, take deep breaths, and then ask yourself YOU YOURSELF a question. See how your body feels. YOU will TELL YOURSELF the ABSOLUTE TRUTH, because right now, with the energies that are flowing inbound here to this little blue sphere, all else but ABSOLUTE TRUTH is falling away.

The rest is all just window dressing. Sending you JOY!

RikkiTikkiTavi
1st August 2015, 03:16
I posted this in "The Black Robe" thread in the forums' "General Topics" area. I thought I would post it here as well since it is regarding DW, the cabal and the illuminati,....

I ran across this just a bit ago. DW interviewed William Dean Garner for Disclosure series on Gaiam TV. So far only 2 of 5 of the interviews have been shown as of this posting. It's interesting what Mr. Garner has to say,...


"When we taped five episodes of the Disclosure series some time ago, I discussed a lot more intel on the Jesuits, but Jay Weidner edited out much of my commentary on the Jesuits and replaced it with the propaganda David Wilcock is pushing: the so-called “illuminati” and “cabal,” neither of which are real entities in my estimation.

They’re being paraded about to throw us off the trail of the real culprits, the Jesuits.

The two interviews I did with Wilcock are somewhat interesting, when you don’t have to listen to Wilcock all the time, but they’re also disturbing on several fronts because Gaiam TV is pushing this false notion about the “illuminati” and “cabal.”

Methinks the time is coming when I’ll do my own video interviews and tell the story of the Jesuits the way it should be told: accurately and filled with first-hand accounts by those who witnessed malevolent Jesuit behaviors in many different countries over centuries.

Fireside chats kinda."

http://williamdeanagarner.com/william-dean-a-garner-on-david-wilcock/

Dracon
1st August 2015, 04:18
Hi Pebbles,

Perhaps I am misreading, but it seems you are saying the quote from Omniverse points out a lie? I'm curious if I have read this correctly, and if so, how you think it does so?

Daozen
1st August 2015, 09:46
Christ I am sick of reading about this guy. Did anyone buy an apron yet?

The One
1st August 2015, 09:51
Christ I am sick of reading about this guy. Did anyone buy an apron yet?

I was going to get one but they are made in China lol.Pack of cards anyone only $22.95 per deck i kid you not

Daozen
1st August 2015, 10:13
Should the Sphere Alliance be enabling gambling? That seems to go against the core Blue Avian message of forgiveness, love, and service to others OK I have to get off the internet.

Dreamtimer
1st August 2015, 11:00
I have my Dad's aprons. That's good enough for me. I didn't get around to looking at prices. That's an expensive deck of cards. Is this the kind of exploding you mean, Contact Point? :vom:

Daozen
1st August 2015, 11:19
No, just exploding from all the weirdness. I half want to ignore the hell out of all the GOODETXSG drama. On the other hand, this bird project is an attempted forerunner for the wave of cybernetic technology, AKA the "Star Trek tech" that Wilcock and friends are trying to roll out. We will have a 'choice', as The Ruiner says. That choice is already on the table but neither side has much momentum yet. I was warned about this years back as the 'era of the pseudo-benevolents'. The psychopaths are going home, and the spoiled brat sociopaths are lining up to take control: Microchips, Google Glass, etc. This is mainstream news. So it's a good idea to discredit the major cybernetic timeline agents before they gain any traction.

If Wilcock is sincere, why is he not working with the technology we have to hand, instead of keeping people on an eternal treadmill? It's all about keeping people baited and sedated.

Anyway, I don't see anything left but a small group of die hard apologists:

"I don't care if GOODET is lying, has his facts wrong, changes his story all the time, and attacks other people. It's the message that counts!" lol.

I think the Blue Avians are done for. Now to dissolve that moon.

Happy Saturnday, everyone.

Susan
1st August 2015, 12:36
I have had many experiences through my life. Do I go out and make money off it? No. I just spread what I know to people who want to know. This whole new age has seriously gotten out of control! These Blue Avians may exist but they sure picked the wrong guy to represent them. Yeeesh!

OneOfLaw
2nd August 2015, 13:37
Should the Sphere Alliance be enabling gambling? That seems to go against the core Blue Avian message of forgiveness, love, and service to others OK I have to get off the internet.

These are no real genuine blue avians but counterfeit beings who dupe the narrator of this narrative, the true avians say themselves they are not part of any alliance, they have their own reasons to be here, but this has neither something to do with buffering energies, nor with building barriers and so forth. That is, the orchestrated public pre-disclosure narrative serves a certain ET agenda.

OneOfLaw
2nd August 2015, 13:46
The psychopaths are going home, and the spoiled brat sociopaths are lining up to take control: Microchips, Google Glass, etc. This is mainstream news. So it's a good idea to discredit the major cybernetic timeline agents before they gain any traction.

I


This is all fear mongering, it is not going to happen, and it is easy to understand why, in late september (solstice and thereafter) it is OVER, simple as that - when the light is the closest, the what you refer to be darkness seems overwhelmingly - like now at least still for many humans if they still suffer from mass mind control. in fact there exists no darkness in the sense you define it - what you call darkness is your souls teacher, unconditional love that masks itself as something allegedly different, but it is not. Is Jacob de Rothschild less unconditional love than Jesus ?! NO !!!! Both are the creator........ you are at school here and exactly this is something you have to learn when you want to leave third density school classes.

That is, the worse it gets in "mainstream media illusion" the closer you are to relief - all this what they now introduce and throw at you is the final exam for human souls to clarify if they are able to let go of fear. from there on humans are gaining back sovereignity (gradually but fast) over their planet due to a global effect by the incoming energies that are going to peak around this solstice, you may not be able to believe this (which is not going to prevent divine scripting from unfolding), but this has something good for you:

You are going to be very surprised. "positively" surprised - at least after the first turmult has decreased. In 2, 3 years you are living a completely different life, stop clinging to fear and finally focus your energy and attention on something which is rising vibration! these discussions here induce the opposite. go outside into the sun, build groups with friends and relatives to be prepared for the economy collapse(sharing/bartering which at the same moment is already preparation for the new way of human living after the emotional trauma has been healed and the new systems/paradigms are fully operational), meditate, do everything that serves your own well being (have sex, take consciousness expanding plants - weed - consume magic mushrooms or even smoke cigarettes or eat fast food - it is though advised to eat organic food to hold the body computer in a most effective condition. whatever, as long as it makes you joyful in the now, it is rising vibration and is not inducing any harm to the body/mind complex), be all forgiving but stop to attach to narratives that are staged BS and starting arguements about something that has no relevance for your spiritual growth whatsoever. this here is only creating low vibration.. accusing others (DW/Corey--- they are you, you are only targeting yourself when you blame them,...........)

..., starting arguments, fear mongering or the focus on it. this is distracting you from aligning with the incoming energies. that is the purpose of those narratives in the first place. in here this has been very successfully installed/integrated.





Of course the next 1,5 years are going to be troublesome, many drama, suffering, deaths, but only for those who are still in fear and cling to the old humanity. the proposed "star trek" society is absolutely going to happen, but it takes a couple of years to first substitute all old structures/paradigms and then commercialize these new technologies. the first major "technological" breakthrough is going to be free energy globalisation/release.

Your cars can be upgraded quite fast as well self piloting and flying cars are already in planning and pre-production kind of phases. salt water engine is being able to be released soon as well. there are so many high tech inventions that are only withhold due to confiscated patents and refusal to share these technologies with their planet population. with the old financial system many of those strctures are going to evaporate and transform rather quickly,the rest is going to be sorted out naturally along the way.

be in love iinstead of fear


you are unconditionally loved for what you have achieved

all love and light


sit back and relax, watch the show that is unfolding, it is going to be mesmerizing

Roisin
2nd August 2015, 17:11
Interesting post OneofLaw. Love and Light to you too!

donk
2nd August 2015, 17:48
I don't think it matters if bill had a thing to do with Corey's "truth" as he'd like you to understand it, I personally don't think think he touched at all. What I do find BR to be responsible for is bringing Corey into "importance"...into your awareness.

Roisin
2nd August 2015, 18:10
BR's not important, neither is DW or anyone else out there who have taken on the role of promoting contactee stories. The only thing that's important is for us to have a community of experiencers in a positive environment online that allows us to share even our most off the wall experiences and material. Granted there will always be hoaxers who want to make a name for themselves and profit on their alleged experiences but that just comes with the territory. But if we negate all the information that comes our way, we'll lose out on the opportunity to get closer to the truth. There is something going on.... "they" exist and we need to pay attention to those stories we even have major issues with because somewhere in that story, there's usually some grain of truth that needs to be evaluated.

Pebbles
2nd August 2015, 19:25
Hi Pebbles,

Perhaps I am misreading, but it seems you are saying the quote from Omniverse points out a lie? I'm curious if I have read this correctly, and if so, how you think it does so?

Well, you stated you did not save the chats, yet omnisense does mention he has this proof that corey said certain things...so with that said, it is obvious it was a lie..
However, I'm really not into the negative part of this alternative media. So wether it is true or not doesn't change much for me...It's just annoying everyone is trying to bash someone, that in its self is already proof of how much we still have to learn as human beings...

ERK
2nd August 2015, 19:50
Well, you stated you did not save the chats, yet omnisense does mention he has this proof that corey said certain things...so with that said, it is obvious it was a lie..
However, I'm really not into the negative part of this alternative media. So wether it is true or not doesn't change much for me...It's just annoying everyone is trying to bash someone, that in its self is already proof of how much we still have to learn as human beings...

From my point of view- it's not bashing but merely exposing someone (Corey) so other's can see the lies. It's not OK IMO to make up blatant lies and capitalize on them. I think those peddling this circus have no shame. I am very disappointed in the *truth* community for buying into what is an obvious hoax.

SmokeyJoe1952
2nd August 2015, 20:22
Agreed, its NOT bashing its merely exposing the reality behind these characters, we all have seen a number of these individuals walk into the public domain with all manner of stories and expect us all to swallow everything they say. Its a sign of the times unfortunately. Everyone has access to the internet and every available piece of information so its too damn easy to trawl and then concoct a series of claims without anyone knowing. Trouble is a few of us have not come down in the last shower and can see thru some of these individuals. There has been a prolification of these individuals since around 2005, social media, youtube and all the rest has given a platform for all and sundry. When people need their eyes opened this will be carried out to expose the element of fantasy prone and delusional individuals. Its human nature to want to believe but in this day and age its too evident too many are too gullible.

The One
2nd August 2015, 20:50
From my point of view- it's not bashing but merely exposing someone (Corey) so other's can see the lies. It's not OK IMO to make up blatant lies and capitalize on them. I think those peddling this circus have no shame. I am very disappointed in the *truth* community for buying into what is an obvious hoax.

I for one have to apologise here, being the founder of this place.I was sucked in and gave him a platform to inject his mind control crap just like Project Avalon and i now realise it was all a con.I was to engrossed in the moment to realise what was going on.For that i sincerely apologise as i should have acted sooner.

SmokeyJoe1952
2nd August 2015, 20:53
NO, you have nothing to apologise for, many were drawn into the web spun by Corey and aided by DW so its not your fault. Much stronger vetting protocols should be put in place.

Rebel&Rocket
2nd August 2015, 21:12
Well, you stated you did not save the chats, yet omnisense does mention he has this proof that corey said certain things...so with that said, it is obvious it was a lie..
However, I'm really not into the negative part of this alternative media. So wether it is true or not doesn't change much for me...It's just annoying everyone is trying to bash someone, that in its self is already proof of how much we still have to learn as human beings...

Some clarity....what's floating around is a single screenshot of a Skype conversation. Not an entire conversation. There is far more backstory to all of this circus, many pieces of it on many different forums and blogs and private conversations. Many of the people who are being very critical of this bizarre drama are people who had direct interactions with CG. All of which is just to say that there's a whole lot more going on here than what is said in the last few pages of this thread.

Several months ago, Pebbles, I was observing things in regard to this circus unfold without any background on it, and I felt exactly the same. What's with the negativity? Why are so many people so ****ed off and hostile? I actually had a couple of posts that looked very much like yours here. Let's just say that these months later, with more information, I am sympathetic to the people who are ****ed off. There's a lot more to it than meets the eye.

Rebel&Rocket
2nd August 2015, 21:19
I for one have to apologise here, being the founder of this place.I was sucked in and gave him a platform to inject his mind control crap just like Project Avalon and i now realise it was all a con.I was to engrossed in the moment to realise what was going on.For that i sincerely apologise as i should have acted sooner.

Malc, I sincerely hope you are not too hard on yourself with all of this. We're all here because we have, what we like to call, "open minds." We believe the unbelievable. It's the nature of this whole environment and community. Unfortunately, that in itself makes us all very easy targets. I'm sure this isn't the first or last performances of this kind. I admire you for your composure while rolling through this whole thing. All of your team.

ERK
2nd August 2015, 21:30
I for one have to apologise here, being the founder of this place.I was sucked in and gave him a platform to inject his mind control crap just like Project Avalon and i now realise it was all a con.I was to engrossed in the moment to realise what was going on.For that i sincerely apologise as i should have acted sooner.


I'm speaking of Wilcock and Gaiam- I still have not brought it up to Gaiam.............the time wasn't right/I felt not appropriate to bring it up just yet. Something that needs to be handled with kid gloves (I watched my ex con the whole new age community here with a huge scam /same group of people). A funny thing happened last week, in the wee hours of the night a new friend came over to pick up some Chinese herbs he left at my house the night before- out of the blue he asked me what I thought of DW and the blue avian story. LOL, I couldn't believe it! He went on to tell me he was a good friend of DW's (and Darryl/Bashar) but that he didn't buy the blue bird tales. I laughed, we ended up talking until late as he is also a grey abductee. I just thought it funny someone would come over and out of the "blue" ask me that.

donk
2nd August 2015, 21:44
I for one have to apologise here, being the founder of this place.I was sucked in and gave him a platform to inject his mind control crap just like Project Avalon and i now realise it was all a con.I was to engrossed in the moment to realise what was going on.For that i sincerely apologise as i should have acted sooner.

Well done malc, I appreciate the apology, it is great to set an example. For me there is not a better show of character than the ability to admit to a mistake

Shadowself
2nd August 2015, 22:01
I for one have to apologise here, being the founder of this place.I was sucked in and gave him a platform to inject his mind control crap just like Project Avalon and i now realise it was all a con.I was to engrossed in the moment to realise what was going on.For that i sincerely apologise as i should have acted sooner.

It does my heart good to hear you say that and I know it's not easy to say. I've seen posts of you and your family and wondered often how someone who seemed so nice could get involved with the likes of him.

But don't feel too bad. He has used people all over the place. When he gets done with them he spits them out! He could care less about a true Milab vicitm! He does not have a clue!

Now it's pretty bad when the folks at Divine Cosmos Forum don't believe his story either!

http://divinecosmos.com/forums/showthread.php?15898-GoodETxSG-The-Insider&p=68026#post68026



The fact that several people claim to have been in communication with the Blue Avians doesn’t mean they’re real, necessarily—just that the Illuminati could be targeting multiple people with their program—perhaps for testing purposes.

I think it would be closed-minded and possibly even dangerous to suggest that when we have no proof, that the Blue Avians must be biological, sentient extraterrestrial and benevolent entities.

Believing everything Corey Goode says because we WANT to believe it, is a highly questionable decision in my view.

It’s clear from the new video that came out this month about the patents to this brain mapping and manipulation technology, that they are preparing to target individual people’s brains—interpreting, sending and receiving information and thoughts.

If they roll out this technology and implant us, it is going to not only strip all privacy from Humanity, but remove our free will. Period. The NSA spying has nothing on this new technology."



IN fact there are three posts that question his story!

I spent a good part of yesterday posting at Avalon because this whole thing just ticked me off!

So don't blame yourself....he used you and this forum.... and is using plenty of people. I think fairly soon he's going to get dropped kicked by DW based on the fact that they're allowing such posts at Divine Cosmos. He'll (DW) probably say it's all a mind control program that Corey is under to fool us all! Just wait...

Roisin
2nd August 2015, 22:50
Alfred Webre's view on Corey's story is that the Blue Avian's are not "beings", in a physical sense but are AI's. This in itself "warrants further investigation".

So what is the purpose of the Controllers who are behind all of this? It's a known fact that something does not have to necessarily be true for that information to influence us in terms of our world perceptions and religious and philosophical belief systems. And especially in this day and age, even just a small group of believers promoting questionable unproven facts and information has the potential via the internet and the media to reach and convince many, many others to jump on the bandwagon and become a believer too. The ultimate objective would be to gain control over humanity on every level possible...

The story passed onto Corey to communicate to the world and their message and warnings injected into that material turned out to be a dud. We have provided valuable information to the Controllers via our feedback in this forum and elsewhere on the internet what parts of Corey's presentation we had issues with. Issues that were large enough for us to negate his entire story.

So now that puts them back to the drawing board again to come up with a new story and a new "contactee" to see if that one works better. And they'll keep doing this until they find one that sticks.

Shadowself
2nd August 2015, 23:48
You know...based on his behavior here....anybody want to take bets on how long those three posts at divine cosmos last?

Because as soon as he sees this he's going to cry foul and have David remove them.

Any takers?

Aianawa
2nd August 2015, 23:55
Wow interesting theories but great to see talk instead of hate from most, now that you committed your opinion of Corey, Malc, do you think you could once again change your mind regarding Corey and his data in the future ?.

Rebel&Rocket
2nd August 2015, 23:59
Alfred Webre's view on Corey's story is that the Blue Avian's are not "beings", in a physical sense but are AI's. This in itself "warrants further investigation".

So what is the purpose of the Controllers who are behind all of this? It's a known fact that something does not have to necessarily be true for that information to influence us in terms of our world perceptions and religious and philosophical belief systems. And especially in this day and age, even just a small group of believers promoting questionable unproven facts and information has the potential via the internet and the media to reach and convince many, many others to jump on the bandwagon and become a believer too. The ultimate objective would be to gain control over humanity on every level possible...

The story passed onto Corey to communicate to the world and their message and warnings injected into that material turned out to be a dud. We have provided valuable information to the Controllers via our feedback in this forum and elsewhere on the internet what parts of Corey's presentation we had issues with. Issues that were large enough for us to negate his entire story.

So now that puts them back to the drawing board again to come up with a new story and a new "contactee" to see if that one works better. And they'll keep doing this until they find one that sticks.

It does more than that....when they "expose" these people and their claims as part of another program, it reinforces the "see, you need me to tell you what's going on," thing from the researchers, journalists, etc. So, what if this whole particular story is nothing more than opportunism? Wouldn't throwing the "he's mind controlled" meme in here be just as bad? I'm finding it interesting that people are more willing to believe he's being steered than just believing that this could just simply be a case of someone who did their research for long enough to find a way to exploit the community - and had enough lack of conscience to do it. The conspiracy theories don't always have to be explained with more conspiracy theories.

ERK
3rd August 2015, 00:18
It does more than that....when they "expose" these people and their claims as part of another program, it reinforces the "see, you need me to tell you what's going on," thing from the researchers, journalists, etc. So, what if this whole particular story is nothing more than opportunism? Wouldn't throwing the "he's mind controlled" meme in here be just as bad? I'm finding it interesting that people are more willing to believe he's being steered than just believing that this could just simply be a case of someone who did their research for long enough to find a way to exploit the community - and had enough lack of conscience to do it. The conspiracy theories don't always have to be explained with more conspiracy theories.

I do not believe for one minute it's some AI concoction. I think it's pure and simple fabrication. Others I have spoken with feel the same.

Aianawa
3rd August 2015, 00:23
Hi Erk, I am open to something concrete that would expose Corey just like there is many that are open to something that would be concrete in confirming Corey's data, have you at any stage been open to this data being truthfullll ?.

Roisin
3rd August 2015, 00:23
Well, the day will come when Corey will have to agree to a polygraph test on his material and that should provide us with more information on the veracity of his claims. If he backs out on allowing himself to undergo such tests then that should give us important information too.

In my view, there are real MILABS out there and he claims to be one. I'm willing to consider that he's telling the truth on that ... at least for the time being.

Aianawa
3rd August 2015, 00:37
Strange, I thought polygraph testing was open to being manipulated by some, yes ?.

Hi Roisin, are you 100% sure he is not a milab ?.

Roisin
3rd August 2015, 00:46
No, not at all but when I was in the first MILAB subforum at PA, the other MILABS there accepted him as one of their own. At that point in time, I pretty much accepted it too. Presently, like I said, I'm still willing to consider that he's a MILAB. As for polygraph tests, they continue to improve that technology. I'll just leave it at that but most definitely it would seem that someone like Corey should undergo such tests for reasons I gave before.

Aianawa
3rd August 2015, 00:52
Okay, for myself the Event side of things will be interesting and that comes from Matt Kahn material not Corey/DW, and he put a specific sep date which I feel aligns with the Corey/DW event speak, we will see and the wave to ride will continue whatever.

Dracon
3rd August 2015, 01:41
Well, you stated you did not save the chats, yet omnisense does mention he has this proof that corey said certain things...so with that said, it is obvious it was a lie..
However, I'm really not into the negative part of this alternative media. So wether it is true or not doesn't change much for me...It's just annoying everyone is trying to bash someone, that in its self is already proof of how much we still have to learn as human beings...


What I stated was I didn't have recordings of someone other than Corey. You must have misread. I do not have those recordings.

Daozen
3rd August 2015, 01:42
I for one have to apologise here, being the founder of this place.I was sucked in and gave him a platform to inject his mind control crap just like Project Avalon and i now realise it was all a con.I was to engrossed in the moment to realise what was going on.For that i sincerely apologise as i should have acted sooner.

Everyone gets suckered in sometimes. No one needs to apologize. We're all blind down here. You did the world a service by giving him the run of the place, and feeding him enough rope to tie himself in knots. He ended up streaking across the 'disclosure' scene, taking Wilcock down with him in the process. GOODET has helped the world by exposing a lot of people who were pretending to be something they weren't. His early interviews are very different, and still worth a listen.

EDIT: It might help to unban all the people that got trapped in the drama. Undelete posts, etc.

ERK
3rd August 2015, 02:46
Hi Erk, I am open to something concrete that would expose Corey just like there is many that are open to something that would be concrete in confirming Corey's data, have you at any stage been open to this data being truthfullll ?.


I use a specific discernment tool. Within this- it's purely at a gut/animal level. It helps me to separate truth from fiction, think of it as the primitive form of Dr. David Hawkin's work. I am willing to consider I may be wrong having judged it as fiction from the get go (via Christine's first interview) but I am leaning on the side of fiction from the get go.

ZShawn
3rd August 2015, 05:32
this is kind of like walking in on some family drama as a total outsider yet having some insights into some members of the family...... so is there a thread I can peruse to bring me up to speed on what is being discussed or can someone sketch out the basics ???
thanks in advance

Aianawa
3rd August 2015, 07:08
I use a specific discernment tool. Within this- it's purely at a gut/animal level. It helps me to separate truth from fiction, think of it as the primitive form of Dr. David Hawkin's work. I am willing to consider I may be wrong having judged it as fiction from the get go (via Christine's first interview) but I am leaning on the side of fiction from the get go.

I also use my discernment tools similar to yourself but do not have the Christine's personsonell connection to go on, exlent that we both are open to being incorrect.

Steve
3rd August 2015, 07:44
this is kind of like walking in on some family drama as a total outsider yet having some insights into some members of the family...... so is there a thread I can peruse to bring me up to speed on what is being discussed or can someone sketch out the basics ???
thanks in advance

This will be offensive to some, and I understand that it could get deleted, but it was appreciated on a different forum. I mean no offense to members of this forum by what I wrote below, but it is my opinion as is:


I posted the following on ABOVETOSECRET.COM'S thread on Corey Goode, a contactee:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1077201/pg1


To understand where Corey Goode is coming from, all you need to know is: PROJECT Avalon.

I followed him closely, as I follow Avalon as a study in psychology (shared delusions/psychosis).

This how I remember and speculate some about Corey, aka GoodETxSG, aka Luke Skywalker ( no joke, that was one of his codenames for a second).

Corey was a 'run of the mill' right wing conspiracy hobbyist, this I gathered from reading back through his Facebook page. He joined PROJECT Avalon some years ago (as GoodETxSG) and jumped right in to the back channels, pretending to be an Insider, even supposedly passing info to Wilcock years ago, before this whole debacle today.

Corey worked contract tech jobs for some big companies, often sitting in on meetings virtually (the reality behind the metaphor for his aliens=big wigs in corporate land), witnessing just how corrupt big business is.

Corey was probably a really good dude before he decided to make a living lying to people. He watched his jobs be outsourced overseas and spoke up about it, and after suffering a workplace accident that left him disabled (and on disability for a few years at least), he suffered PTSD, and was vocal about the significance that has on life and work.

PROJECT Avalon ruined Corey. Avalon is den of wolves and snakes led by Bill Ryan who practically invented Disinformation as we know it today (http://liesaboutdevils.blogspot.com/2015/07/bill-ryan-deception.html?m=1), and as we see it with Corey's Blue Avians.

Within the Project Avalon back channel there hides a network of insane people who are led to believe they are MILABS (alien and military abductees) and in need of counseling, which leaves them as the hapless prey of supposed psychics and counselors who's only interest is to keep the abduction mythos alive, with all its fancy new age, space age 'glamour'.

Corey, being most likely a bit mentally ill by default, got caught up in the shared delusions of the egotistical MILAB crowd at Avalon, and then over time became obsessed and went full psycho. He began to pose as a MILAB counselor himself, yet also in need of healing.

For his healing, late last year, Christine, (then) an Avalon moderator (and estranged wife of Bill Ryan), visited Corey in his home to do a healing session, during which audio was recorded. Bill, upon hearing the audio and understanding Corey's budding insanity, decided to exploit him (as he and his ex-wife and former partner, Kerry Cassidy, have done with dozens of train wrecks in the past). The result of Bill Ryan's hand in this mess was Corey, GoodETxSG's coming out (not quite) as an anonymous whistleblower through the Avalon platform, his healing session being re-edited as an 'Interview With A Secret Space Program Whistleblower', at which point most people familiar with Avalon were already smelling 'Psyop'.

Who knows, and this IS all very interesting...

It wasn't long before Corey had his own Q&A thread on Avalon, like most disinfo scammers get through Avalon, a pedestal, and protection from too deep of questioning. 'It's all about the message, Intel., not the messenger'. The messenger was not quite anonymous, as he was already very close with the nutty fringe of Avalon (having consciously and unconsciously data-mined them), as well as very familiar with all your basic conspiracy crap for years of Avalon forum participation, having a particular interest, it would seem, in A.I., Secret Space Programs--Mars, and MILAB lore, which he began to voraciously regurgitate all over the Avalon forum in unintelligible, confusing, disorienting fashion, as is the way a troubled mind works (or mind controllers when they wish to open their targets up to 'suggestion').

This all began early this year and is chronicled on Avalon, and then The One Truth forum, where Corey went after destroying his bridge with Avalon and Bill Ryan. Corey took a considerable following with him, picked up a gullible core, then burnt his bridge to The One Truth forum. He used two forums where the regulars are in love with liars of the ilk Cassidy has paraded for years, who Ryan defends and supports when he's not propping up his exploits; two forums that attract gullible seekers, by design, and Corey used them to establish his 'cult base'.

Let's not mention all the shady rumours and infighting with these forum cults and his nutty ex-friends, like Shane, "The Ruiner" (Google: the ruiner blog)

Some facts: when Corey came out as a 'anonymous' whistlerblower, it was not hard for some one to find his identity and real name, which lead to his linkedin, which is just as it has reappeared of late, after disappearing for a time when he was called out and named publicly, except for one entry: Freemason.

Infraguard, techie, mason, years of making claims under Avalon alias GoodETxSG.

Only two possibilities for me. He's a long con disinformation agent, planned all of this and is 'sanctioned' as Bill Ryan now says. Or, he was a true believer, went nuts, and is now being exploited by the wolves and snakes in the Alternative 'ConSpirituality' network of which Wilcock, Ryan, Cassidy, Webre and many others are actors and fakes, in active deception of gullible donation-happy truth seekers.

For all we really know Corey could be infiltrating a dark network of some kind as an agent for the FBI...

hehe ...

It's interesting. He SHOULD be the last of his kind, and the end of Wilcock.

Of course [his story] could all be true, haha!

..............

[Corey is] a self professed "contactee"
Here's a long list of them, all with convoluted stories and no proof, just proven frauds in the mix.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contactee

One angle on contactees is that some were connected to intelligence agencies for the purposes:

-to disinform, confuse the subject of UFO's which around WW2 they (ufos) might have been only secret technology.

-to pass intelligence, espionage, in coded form, where Adamski's Orthon, for instance, was a code word, or an entire narrative was a metaphor for something related to defense or espionage. It would take a cipher to decode the messages. Spy Games.

Who knows, but the CODED MEANINGS, metaphor theory could hold true, which would be even more fascinating given the people involved (who's who?)

Now, check Corey's Google profile. He'll claim it was setup years ago by disinformation agents, as he claimed about his linkedin which disappeared and then reappeared without reference to masonry (he ****ed them off).

https://plus.google.com/109351196653443445685/about

Quote:
"Story

Introduction
Network/VM/CITRIX Support/Security since 1995 to the present after being in the Physical/Electronic Surveillance Security Field. INFJ Personality Type

I am also a HAM Operator: KE5UNV. SPC, TXSG 2nd BT 19th Reg C4I. I have actively practiced RV since 1998 to Present. I have also become an activist for Military, Law Enforcement and Disaster first responders who suffer from PTSD, Traumatic Brain Injuries and Seizure Disorders related to these disabilities. Why? Because I have suffered this discrimination myself. Working in the past for Microsoft, XO Communications, ABSG/US Bio (Pharma company that produces flu vaccines etc)... and Beal Bank, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, Citigroup Bank and Santander (Bank of Spain). I have witnessed extreme corruption. Being in the IT field you are basically invisible while helping support teleconference calls and meetings where executives speak freely and openly as though the IT person is wearing a cloak of invisibility. Other IT people can verify this.Postings here will be of family fun as well as recorded corruption I have taken from some (Not all) of the companies above."
End quote.

If Corey had dirt on big wigs and corporate conglomerates, he could be giving that info out in coded form. See?

This has been a theory since Blavatsky's days, that she was a Russian spy, where only Initiates could understand fully her Secret Doctrines, ie. other spies--running as masons or not--because she was a mason, as most occultists (alt media stars) are then and now, whether we know it or not.

Who has the cipher?

Just theories...

Or they're all nuts.

End Quote.
...............................

It's really not worth investigation or taking Corey serious. From those who've been observing this field, and those who know/knew him, we all know he's a sell out and fraud. IMHO

Aianawa
3rd August 2015, 08:16
This will be offensive to some, and I understand that it could get deleted, but it was appreciated on a different forum. I mean no offense to members of this forum by what I wrote below, but it is my opinion as is:


I posted the following on ABOVETOSECRET.COM'S thread on Corey Goode, a contactee:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1077201/pg1

[...]

It's really not worth investigation or taking Corey serious. From those who've been observing this field, and those who know/knew him, we all know he's a sell out and fraud. IMHO

To be honest all that this your post tells me, is, I wish to know, who are you, have you done your self work, do you know your own mind, also my bs or Belief system from you, rattles a wee bit, and on the Madame, she rocks considering the times she rocked in imo.

Steve
3rd August 2015, 08:27
HPB would be ashamed of what passes for spirituality, and would be actively labeling it what it is-- black magic.

I've been around. I'm not here for mysticisms. I go inside for that. I'm here to call Sh!t out freely, willing to accept when im wrong. There is madness, rampant, in Avalon for the fact that a sizable portion of its members become literally mesmerized when ever a new guru or blower are propped up, like Parkes, Goode, Hodges, even Shane to some extent (but I think his motives are distraction in a Goode way), and anyone who challenges their new (or old) sacred cow gets shut down fast.

http://blavatskytheosophy.com/the-whitewashing-of-black-magic/

"This is the true definition of what black magic actually is: the definite use and application of spiritual force with a selfish or material aim."

Aianawa
3rd August 2015, 08:41
Does not answer the first questions but okay, I do not care about P/A or the labels you give them, yourself and your energy behind your belief system/s bs to give more credence to your post is my interest Steve. imo The Madame would be aware that these times would be massively interesting and perfection ruling to which my perception grants me, being correct or not, may I ask if you do chakra work for self, balancing and/or raising ?, or meditation regularly/often and what stillness practises if any that you do ?, I've been around, means what ?, did you partake in harmonic Convergence in 1987 or know the bay of pigs false flag < > that sorta being around ?, spose it is just me, you appear to feel that you have good knowing about what is going on and a clear overall picture of the goings on Corey wise, so wish to know who you are etc.

Steve
3rd August 2015, 08:52
I'm some one for whom disinformation worked. It destroyed my spirituality and world view and left me born again agnostic. There is every reason today to be agnostic more than ever. Call it a safety blanket, I don't care. I was a theosophist who then investigated ufology and conspiracy, only to find the whole current was polluted from the source.

Why do you think new agers and alternative spiritualist today are so passive and worried about 'their vibrations'? Pacified like all other 'religionists'

My story is as much like anyone's. I woke up, then I woke up, but I'm still dreaming. Thanks for trying, and don't count me out. I just don't want to bore anyone yet.

Steve
3rd August 2015, 08:57
Man, fooled by gods, devils, and would-be saviors. God Speed death and blind rebirth.

bstuart
3rd August 2015, 10:08
This will be offensive to some, and I understand that it could get deleted, but it was appreciated on a different forum. I mean no offense to members of this forum by what I wrote below, but it is my opinion as is:


I posted the following on ABOVETOSECRET.COM'S thread on Corey Goode, a contactee:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1077201/pg1

[...]
...............................

It's really not worth investigation or taking Corey serious. From those who've been observing this field, and those who know/knew him, we all know he's a sell out and fraud. IMHO

That's quite a tirade.

There is certainly a possibility that Corey's story may indeed be conjured, but your attitude, and rampant name calling does not aid your position. Mocking and making hasty generalizations about the individuals in this community, and other online forums, who refuse to buy into mainstream brainwashing, makes your agenda quite clear.

Aragorn
3rd August 2015, 12:18
You've all been very busy little forum nuggets (© Lord Sidious) again while I was asleep, so I'm going to be lumping some quotes together in order to reply by way of a single post. :frantic:


I for one have to apologise here, being the founder of this place.I was sucked in and gave him a platform to inject his mind control crap just like Project Avalon and i now realise it was all a con.I was to engrossed in the moment to realise what was going on.For that i sincerely apologise as i should have acted sooner.

Malc, there is no need to apologize for anything. Corey was just as much a member here as anyone else, and as such, he had every right to post his stuff just like everyone else has, and he had just as much the same obligation to respect the Forum Rules (http://jandeane81.com/announcement.php?f=&a=1) -- this in spite of the fact that some of our members were under the badly delusional impression that we were extending special favors to Corey, while you and I both know that we were not.

How often did we not contact Corey via a PM to explain that there was nothing wrong with certain posts he was complaining about, and that we were not going to delete them? For that matter, I know how much effort I myself have poured into doing exactly that, and we've all been there. And then bsbray and myself often had to see how he was trying to go over our heads by complaining to you whenever we were unwilling to comply with his demands, and then you repeatedly told him that every mod speaks for the entire staff, and that you stood by our decision. Until the next occasion came along that he would be complaining about something, and then it would all start all over again.

When people were attacking Corey, we stepped in as mods. When Corey himself was attacking other people, we stepped in as mods just as well, and with the same respect for all members, and the same neutrality. That's what moderation is all about. When Corey was complaining to the mod room over perfectly legitimate posts from other members, we were all face-palming and going "OMG, there he goes again..."

Everyone who was a member of the staff of The One Truth during Corey's residence here has been more than fair -- toward everyone! -- but neither you yourself as the founder of The One Truth, nor anyone on the staff, nor any of our members can be held responsible for whether any particular person -- in this case, Corey Goode -- would be telling the truth. In fact, if there is one thing that's conspicuous throughout the entire "alt community", then it's that there are way too many conflicting stories out there, and that in itself undermines the credibility of each and every whistle-blower, whether they'd be legitimate or not. This is one of the strongest reasons as to why the mainstream refuses to take us seriously, even: too many people making wild and mutually contradicting claims, and not enough solid evidence to back them up.

It was not you, Malc -- nor anyone else on the staff for that matter -- who prompted people into putting Corey on a pedestal and turning him into a demigod. That was people's own decision, and those who did put Corey on a pedestal and saw a new kind of Messiah in him, are themselves responsible for their own lack of discernment. That is not your fault. So you were not actually giving Corey more of a platform than you are giving others that very same platform.

For that matter, I would like to quote something I wrote in post #122 (http://jandeane81.com/threads/7451-Bill-Ryan?p=841933559&viewfull=1#post841933559) on the Bill Ryan (http://jandeane81.com/threads/7451-Bill-Ryan) thread...







You mentioned patterns, and the strangest one seems to be these circuses are getting more and more "incredible" to the point that they're almost insulting to our intelligence. So I wonder: is the sphere alliance trinkets "a thing"....what does their emergence tell us? Is it a message to anyone like "that says it all", as PA is currently using it as? To me, their existence, and the motivation of any human being to think that they can make money off of them, is harder to believe in than Neptune sized devices

Oh, but it all doesn't matter, because in 2011 we're all going to be raptured, and on the 21st of December, 2012, the world's going to end anyway. No, wait, it's the 31st of July, 2015... Hmmm, something's not right. :ttr:

All jest aside, what I'm trying to say is that it never really changes anything, regardless of who comes out with cool slogans, messages from extraterrestrials, or whatever. We're still stuck in the same old paradigm, and nobody's going to come and save us, because only we can do that, or at least, if we have both the guts and the intelligence to do so. And if we for a moment suspend disbelief and assume that these Blue Avians are real, then their message is that we must become more loving and more service-to-other. And real or not real, they'd be absolutely right about that. But we've been hearing that for the past 70 years already -- ever since Roswell -- and we're probably going to be hearing it for another 70 years more, because we're not doing it.

Here we are, in the year 2015 of our calendar, and we're still stuck in the same old treadmill, and even the service-to-other prophets are making their living by playing to the tune of the very consumerist/capitalist society that's keeping us from becoming service-to-other, while we ourselves are too lazy to change our ways, so that instead we pray for some external and preferably mythological savior to come and bail us out of our own mess.

The question is: how sincere are we when we claim that we want to get out of this treadmill? Do we really? Or are we just waiting for the next sci-fi story and the next savior to put up on a pedestal and worship, just like we've done with all the others before him?





We treat our members as responsible adults. Whether they choose to behave as such or not is their own decision, and their own responsibility. Not yours, Bro. You're off the hook. :smile2:





Malc, I sincerely hope you are not too hard on yourself with all of this. We're all here because we have, what we like to call, "open minds." We believe the unbelievable. It's the nature of this whole environment and community. Unfortunately, that in itself makes us all very easy targets. I'm sure this isn't the first or last performances of this kind. I admire you for your composure while rolling through this whole thing. All of your team.

Hear, hear! :)





Well done malc, I appreciate the apology, it is great to set an example. For me there is not a better show of character than the ability to admit to a mistake

I don't think Malc has made any mistake in how he has handled this. Malc did nothing to actively endorse Corey. In fact, all along we've been simply following and applying the Forum Rules (http://jandeane81.com/announcement.php?f=&a=1).

Sure, when Corey's Q&A thread (http://jandeane81.com/threads/5178-Secret-Space-Program-ET-Federation-Delegation-amp-MILAB-quot-Experiencer-quot-GoodETxSG-Q-amp-A) was starting to derail, we went in and cleaned it up, and we meticulously split off all of the discussion stuff into a separate thread (http://jandeane81.com/threads/6742-Secret-Space-Program-ET-Federation-Delegation-amp-MILAB-quot-Experiencer-quot-GoodETxSG-DISCUSSION). That was a lot of work -- it required marking 70 pages worth of individual posts that had to be moved over -- but we would do that for any other member as well. And for that matter, although Corey has on occasion sung the praises of The One Truth a few times, the cleaning up of his Q&A thread (http://jandeane81.com/threads/5178-Secret-Space-Program-ET-Federation-Delegation-amp-MILAB-quot-Experiencer-quot-GoodETxSG-Q-amp-A) was an incredibly tedious and time-consuming job, and he never even thanked us for it.





Alfred Webre's view on Corey's story is that the Blue Avian's are not "beings", in a physical sense but are AI's. This in itself "warrants further investigation".

So what is the purpose of the Controllers who are behind all of this? It's a known fact that something does not have to necessarily be true for that information to influence us in terms of our world perceptions and religious and philosophical belief systems. And especially in this day and age, even just a small group of believers promoting questionable unproven facts and information has the potential via the internet and the media to reach and convince many, many others to jump on the bandwagon and become a believer too. The ultimate objective would be to gain control over humanity on every level possible...

The story passed onto Corey to communicate to the world and their message and warnings injected into that material turned out to be a dud. We have provided valuable information to the Controllers via our feedback in this forum and elsewhere on the internet what parts of Corey's presentation we had issues with. Issues that were large enough for us to negate his entire story.

So now that puts them back to the drawing board again to come up with a new story and a new "contactee" to see if that one works better. And they'll keep doing this until they find one that sticks.

I'm not sure whether Mr. Webre would be 100% correct in his analysis, but it's an interesting concept, and I agree that it warrants contemplation. The power brokers of this world have us running in circles and chasing our own tails, because that's exactly what keeps them in a position of power and us in the position of malleable cattle, but it's not unthinkable that the dissemination of misinformation would also be part of an experiment in which they would be getting feedback from the community on how to better control us.

Alas, I once again have to refer to what I already wrote on the Bill Ryan (http://jandeane81.com/threads/7451-Bill-Ryan) thread, and what I quoted a few paragraphs higher up in this reply. We in the alternative community like to think of ourselves as enlightened and "awake & aware", but are we really? Look at the whole groupie culture that bubbles up whenever one of these "rock star whistle-blowers" decides to come out with their story -- whether said story is real, only partly real, or an entire fabrication altogether is irrelevant.

It doesn't matter whether it's Simon Parkes, Randy Cramer, Corey Goode, Chris Thomas, Drunvalo Melchizedek or Bashar, anymore than that it would be Britney Spears, Justin Bieber, Kanye West, Tom Cruise, Jennifer Lopez, or whoever else. It has always been the same, and it always will be. Because such is the nature of the beast. We're looking for saviors and idols and demigods to put up on a pedestal and worship, and then we can pray to them to save our souls, instead of looking at (and deep within) ourselves and letting our own inner hero fight for us.

You don't have to take my word for it. I'm just going to let Steve Lukather (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Lukather) do the talking. ;)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Loqt3RUivrs


We were told how the story should go
Strangers in time fighting ancient foes
And that only the way we perceive it has changed
It still remains
Somehow it's always right against wrong
Always the chance of temptation
But it's never as simple as black or white
Day or night

Ever searching for secrets of life
Missing the moments of being alive
But the most important things can't be told
They're in your soul
Put away all your worry and pain
Destiny doesn't change things
When you find out what you really need
How will you know
How will I know

Well we all need a hero of mythical size
To explain what we can't understand
And we all need a hero to sacrifice
His soul

Where's the hero with a thousand eyes
With another foolproof plan
If you only can see through the strange disguise
Any maybe find yourself
Deep inside this living hell
That knows you oh so well
Knows you so well

Now we won't need a hero with a thousand eyes
To explain what we can't understand
And we won't need a hero to sacrifice
His soul
Who's the hero with a thousand eyes
With another useless plan
Now we see through the strange disguise
So you can find yourself
Deep inside this living hell
That knows you oh so well
Knows you so well.







Wow interesting theories but great to see talk instead of hate from most, now that you committed your opinion of Corey, Malc, do you think you could once again change your mind regarding Corey and his data in the future ?.

I can't speak for Malc in this regard, although I suspect that his reply would be the same as mine, i.e. having an open mind means that you acknowledge that you don't have all the information, and as such, that you would be open to the possibility that you may need to revise your opinion.





It does more than that....when they "expose" these people and their claims as part of another program, it reinforces the "see, you need me to tell you what's going on," thing from the researchers, journalists, etc. So, what if this whole particular story is nothing more than opportunism? Wouldn't throwing the "he's mind controlled" meme in here be just as bad? I'm finding it interesting that people are more willing to believe he's being steered than just believing that this could just simply be a case of someone who did their research for long enough to find a way to exploit the community - and had enough lack of conscience to do it. The conspiracy theories don't always have to be explained with more conspiracy theories.

While I absolutely agree with you on that last sentence here-above -- very astute, by the way! -- it is my own, personal impression from having been in contact with Corey via e-mail, from roughly around the time that he left Project Avalon up until shortly after I became a moderator here, that Corey himself believes every single word he says, even when he uttered accusations both toward a trusted moderator of The One Truth initially, and toward the entire moderator team eventually; his claim was that the moderator team of The One Truth -- and I kid you not -- had been "infiltrated by Ruiner followers".

:fpalm:

I do not believe that Corey would be deliberately malevolent, but that said, it is also my impression, both in retrospect and with regard to Corey's current activity, that he would indeed be mind-controlled, or more precisely put: that he has been programmed. But this too is something the people in the alternative community are very likely to misinterpret. On the one hand, there would be the fabricated memories via hypnosis, hallucinogens and whatever else have you, but on the other hand, it's also not like he would have become a robot under remote control. He's still a person, but I think that his mind was so badly messed with that he responds to particular situations through compartmentalized segments of his personality, in which parts of his consciousness are reduced or eliminated.

It's a bit like being in a dream state. Sometimes, you can have very clear dreams in which you do certain things that you would normally never do. That's because the factors that would normally prevent you from doing those things in real life have been eliminated or made less important in your decision-making -- after all, when you're dreaming, then you're asleep, and then only select parts of your brain are active at random intervals. And someone with such a compartmentalized personality would indeed, when the compartment becomes "active", behave somewhat like a sociopath.

In Corey's case, one very strong "program" that I've noticed is the paranoia factor. He's on a mission to let the world know about (real or imaginary) Blue Avians, and when he's on that mission, he thinks in black & white terms -- George W. Bush's "You are either with us or against us." I have also seen the same kind of thinking in people afflicted with borderline personality disorder, which in Corey's case could indeed also be present as a result of his MILAB conditioning.

The bottom line is that, given my own experience with and analysis of Corey, I do not believe that he would be acting out of malevolence or opportunism, even though his actions occasionally translate to hostile and/or opportunistic behavior. I am willing to acknowledge that I could be wrong, but in my sufficiently educated opinion, I believe that Corey believes everything he's saying, even if what he's saying isn't true.





Well, the day will come when Corey will have to agree to a polygraph test on his material and that should provide us with more information on the veracity of his claims. If he backs out on allowing himself to undergo such tests then that should give us important information too.

In my view, there are real MILABS out there and he claims to be one. I'm willing to consider that he's telling the truth on that ... at least for the time being.

His behavior certainly shows very clear signs of a mind that has been heavily tampered with, so I'm fully willing to accept the MILAB programming angle. However, in that case, a polygraph test would fail, because what a polygraph shows -- provided that we're not dealing with someone who knows how to fool it -- is whether a person is knowingly lying. So if I'm right and Corey does indeed believe every single word he speaks, then the polygraph would not identify him as a liar.





this is kind of like walking in on some family drama as a total outsider yet having some insights into some members of the family...... so is there a thread I can peruse to bring me up to speed on what is being discussed or can someone sketch out the basics ???
thanks in advance

I'd say that this thread is as good as any, but I'm afraid there is no such thing as "bringing you up to speed". You really do need to go over all the evidence yourself, because it has been brought to the table by a great number of individual people who have all contributed their own pieces of the puzzle. No single person can tell you exactly all that has happened or all that has transpired.

Don't worry, though. Just look at the pertinent thread titles in the first couple of pages of each of the applicable forum categories, and then you'll quickly enough find all the information. ;) (There are a few clickable links in this very post here as well.)





It might help to unban all the people that got trapped in the drama. Undelete posts, etc.

Although the staff of The One Truth is painfully aware of this very stubbornly persisting misconception, nobody got banned here because of Corey. The only members who were banned were members who were grossly misbehaving, both toward the staff and toward other members.

What did however happen was that a lot of our members who believed in the veracity of that misconception decided to either unsubscribe themselves or request unsubscription from the staff. Unlike over at Project Avalon, the moniker "unsubscribed" underneath a member's name here at The One Truth does not mean "banned". It merely means that the member's account was deactivated as per their own choice -- this is called "retired" over at Project Avalon -- and that it can as such be reactivated again if that is the former member's wish. All they need to do in that regard is drop us an e-mail, which they can do by clicking the "Contact Us" (http://jandeane81.com/sendmessage.php) link at the bottom of each forum page.

Dreamtimer
3rd August 2015, 12:23
There has to be an AUTHORITY on Knowledge, and in this day it is Science and the scientific method is the best thing we got. Remember when it was the church? Science holds nothing back, and allows anyone to enter the process.

I have a problem with this. We need no 'authority' other than ourselves. You're just asking for another control system. If you think science doesn't have politics, favoritism, interference by government and business then you're as naive as you claim others are. Just try doing some open and honest science about free energy and see how far you get. How many patents are sequestered and sitting doing squat? How many alternative scientists are disappearing and/or dying?

There are several here, including the founder, who have discussed better vetting processes for disclosers and setting up systems for this. Take at look at what they've already discussed. Start with Sam.

Roisin
3rd August 2015, 12:32
Steve sounds like me 10 years ago. A seeker searching for answers to those things addressed by communities such as this one... that cannot easily be explained but then painting everything in black and white because he hasn't yet been able to look past his own observations and insights which in reality are only based on mere superficialities. He's too hesitant to jump into the rabbit hole to analyze things in a more in-depth manner to get a more accurate assessment on what's really going on. Unfortunately though, I don't think he even realizes that and instead thinks he's got everything all figured out.

Steve
3rd August 2015, 13:13
Rosin has no idea about Steve or what he's studied, practiced, or which rabbit holes he's fully dived into.

I appreciate your concern, but 3 years is long enough to figure out the insanity of alternative media and alternative spirituality. (I've been into metaphysical systems for twenty years before surveying conSPIRITUALITY)...

AUTHORITY: Science wins-- physics, astro and quantum. They have method.

Metaphysics used to be 'guided' by SYSTEMS; deep integral systems with TRADITION. if you've been getting your knowledge from your own self and or misleading channels from new age and alien ghosts, and you still fall for alt media deceptions, you've been mislead, IMO

Systems rule the world. IDEAS rule the world.

Anyway, I got a crap deal here. I'm obviously disgruntled. I've made my points, noise if you want. I'll be around waiting for the next liar fraud like Corey, and I'll troll them just as well. Some one has to take the wind from their sails, or if you like, TEST THEM.

Lol

*rides his ego off into the wind storm*

Roisin
3rd August 2015, 13:39
His behavior certainly shows very clear signs of a mind that has been heavily tampered with, so I'm fully willing to accept the MILAB programming angle. However, in that case, a polygraph test would fail, because what a polygraph shows -- provided that we're not dealing with someone who knows how to fool it -- is whether a person is knowingly lying. So if I'm right and Corey does indeed believe every single word he speaks, then the polygraph would not identify him as a liar.

You're absolutely right about that and most definitely that would have to be taken into consideration when interpreting the test results of an individual like this. Thanks for bringing that up!

Outlander
3rd August 2015, 15:03
I for one have to apologise here, being the founder of this place.I was sucked in and gave him a platform to inject his mind control crap just like Project Avalon and i now realise it was all a con.I was to engrossed in the moment to realise what was going on.For that i sincerely apologise as i should have acted sooner.

That deserves a BIG hand!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heAw4z71lvo

Aragorn
3rd August 2015, 15:07
Color emphasis mine...


[...]

Anyway, I got a crap deal here. I'm obviously disgruntled. I've made my points, noise if you want. I'll be around waiting for the next liar fraud like Corey, and I'll troll them just as well.

[...]

*rides his ego off into the wind storm*
-Radial


So you realized your mistake and then you came back 45 minutes later to edit your post and delete the give-away, huh? Too late though, because we had already noticed, and we know who you are.

You had already been permanently banned from The One Truth earlier, so you decided to sneak back in under a false identity, and you thought we wouldn't notice. That makes it a double violation. Allow me to -- once again -- quote to you from the Forum Rules (http://jandeane81.com/announcement.php?f=&a=1)...:







SECTION D - INFRACTIONS AND SUSPENSIONS


In most cases, a member who breaks a rule will not be banned immediately, but will instead receive warnings and/or infractions. An accumulation of infractions may cause one's membership to become temporarily suspended, but under certain conditions, infractions aren't even required in order for the staff to decide on a temporary suspension of a particular person's membership.

In extreme cases, members may even find themselves banned, both immediately and permanently, such as in the event of the following transgressions:


[...]

2. TROLLING


A troll is someone who deliberately posts controversial, irrelevant, or otherwise disruptive messages with the intention of provoking other people into an emotional response. Members who engage in trolling may be immediately banned.



3. CLONING


Any members who willfully create multiple accounts will have their IP addresses banned.



[...]






Bye-bye, Mr. Giraud. You're going on the ban list -- again.

ERK
3rd August 2015, 15:24
I also use my discernment tools similar to yourself but do not have the Christine's personsonell connection to go on, exlent that we both are open to being incorrect.

It's actually a venomous poison that I use.

RikkiTikkiTavi
3rd August 2015, 15:29
There should be no questions about whether or not "fringe" forums are monitored by groups that have intentions of manipulating/altering public discourse. It would be naive to assume that it is not a strong possibility.

Keeping that in mind, consider the wealth of imagination and thought processes in the topics being discussed. For instance, if I were a creator of Sci-Fi media, a forum would be an unlimited source of new ideas and concepts in which to weave a new block buster hit. And the same could be said of those who would be searching for new techniques and devices to sway mass opinions.

As far as my thoughts on Corey's message (from the BA's), it's truthful and that's powerful. Although the message is truthful, the presentation is fraught of corruption. Hence thought manipulation and $22.95 decks of playing cards. This negates the power of the message and delivers more of the same garbage that we have already been subjected to and many of us have grown intolerant of.

Ask yourself, Qui Bono, ultimately?

Steve brings up the a good point using the word "systems". Consider also the concept of "patterns" and "cycles". Valuable information can be gleaned from them.

Not that I am a religious person, this Biblical passage is note worthy;

Ecclesiastes 1:4-11

A generation goes, and a generation comes,
but the earth remains forever.

The sun rises, and the sun goes down,
and hastens to the place where it rises.

The wind blows to the south
and goes around to the north;
around and around goes the wind,
and on its circuits the wind returns.

All streams run to the sea,
but the sea is not full;
to the place where the streams flow,
there they flow again.

All things are full of weariness;
a man cannot utter it;
the eye is not satisfied with seeing,
nor the ear filled with hearing.

What has been is what will be,
and what has been done is what will be done,
and there is nothing new under the sun.

Is there a thing of which it is said,
“See, this is new”?
It has been already
in the ages before us.

There is no remembrance of former things,
nor will there be any remembrance
of later things yet to be among those who come after.

ERK
3rd August 2015, 15:35
At this point I think Corey does indeed believe what he says, although I don't think his mind was tampered with. I think his behavior might stem from heavy childhood trauma (and he indeed did say his father was very abusive on a thread here on TOT). On a sidenote there is a faux shaman in town here doing very similar (he believes his delusions). His background is abusive (father was physically abusive towards his mother and him/siblings) and he's gone out and represented himself as some messiah/savior. I am not a psych student or anything of the sort but these sort of backgrounds cannot be dismissed IMHO.

Aragorn
3rd August 2015, 16:07
At this point I think Corey does indeed believe what he says, although I don't think his mind was tampered with. I think his behavior might stem from heavy childhood trauma (and he indeed did say his father was very abusive on a thread here on TOT). On a sidenote there is a faux shaman in town here doing very similar (he believes his delusions). His background is abusive (father was physically abusive towards his mother and him/siblings) and he's gone out and represented himself as some messiah/savior. I am not a psych student or anything of the sort but these sort of backgrounds cannot be dismissed IMHO.

Well, a Messiah Complex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_complex) does indeed often coincide with certain psychiatric conditions such as schizophrenia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia) or bipolar disorder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder). Now, based upon my experiences in the paramedical field and my understanding of both psychology and psychiatry, and going by my own interactions with Corey, I can already safely rule out schizophrenia. Bipolar disorder can be (and often is) the result of a childhood trauma, indeed. But then it's still a stretch from, one the one hand, thinking that one has a role to fulfil as a savior of mankind, and on the other hand, coming up with such intricate details as in the case of Corey's story regarding the secret space programs, sphere beings, blue avians, and all of the other stuff he's been talking about.

I think for someone to actually believe in such a detailed scenario, they would have to be thoroughly and purposely manipulated. And that sort of stuff does indeed happen. Just ask SmokeyJoe1952 -- he has seen both sides of that coin.

Sooner or later the truth's going to come out, though. Because even those who have had their minds twisted by the MILAB programs will eventually break through the conditioning. Look at Duncan O'Finioan and the late Dave Corso.

:hmm:

Roisin
3rd August 2015, 16:13
I'm a graduate psych student on sabbatical (Art Therapy). May or may not finish the program but it should be noted that many channeler's, mediums, psychics, metaphysicians, abductee's, experiencer's etc are products of dysfunctional homes where many of them were abused as children. Such abuse has the potential to cause dissociative disorders making them excellent candidates for transdimensional communications.

Dreamtimer
3rd August 2015, 16:36
I'm a graduate psych student on sabbatical (Art Therapy).... Such abuse has the potential to cause dissociative disorders making them excellent candidates for transdimensional communications.

Taken one step further, ritual abuse can result in transdimensional manifestations. Bringing evil entities in.

(not saying anything about Corey here).

Art Therapy. I like it.

(thanks for nudge, Aragorn)

Hugh Mann
3rd August 2015, 16:37
Don't you all think it is a bit premature to crucify this guy? IMO there might be something to the Corey's story because several well-known people have come forward to back him up. They have put their reputations and money on the line and if this all turns out to be bovine fecal matter, there will be hell to pay for them. I don't belive they would risk being a laughing-stock. We know the government(s) lie about everything. We know we're not alone in the universe. We know many other whistle-blowers have come forward about involvement with ETs. We know the government(s) have suppressed much knowledge and technologies. So what is so unbelievable about this? IMHO it ties everything together.

For the time being, I will just sit back patently waiting to see how the events unfold. If it all turns out to be crap, it won't affect me one bit. We will all find out the truth eventually. It looks like the message of being more loving, forgiving and being less judgemental has already been forgotten.

Roisin
3rd August 2015, 16:42
Taken one step further, ritual abuse can result in transdimensional manifestations. Bringing evil entities in.

(not saying anything about Corey here).

Art Therapy. I like it.

(thanks for nudge, Aragorn)

That's true.... I believe that too. Actually it's more than belief.... I KNOW that. Thanks for pointing that out.

ZShawn
3rd August 2015, 16:47
well this has been informative, thanks guys
seems like I haven't missed much by being too busy to bother following all this for the past few years

bstuart
3rd August 2015, 16:55
Don't you all think it is a bit premature to crucify this guy? IMO there might be something to the Corey's story because several well-known people have come forward to back him up. They have put their reputations and money on the line and if this all turns out to be bovine fecal matter, there will be hell to pay for them. I don't belive they would risk being a laughing-stock. We know the government(s) lie about everything. We know we're not alone in the universe. We know many other whistle-blowers have come forward about involvement with ETs. We know the government(s) have suppressed much knowledge and technologies. So what is so unbelievable about this? IMHO it ties everything together.

For the time being, I will just sit back patently waiting to see how the events unfold. If it all turns out to be crap, it won't affect me one bit. We will all find out the truth eventually. It looks like the message of being more loving, forgiving and being less judgemental has already been forgotten.

In my opinion, being analytical, and putting forward logical postulates about what's going on does not equate to "crucifying" him. The repeat troll in this thread has thankfully already been banned by the mods.

I leave the possibility open that some of Corey's story may be true, but he has already stated that he has absolutely no intention of ever trying to provide proof for his claims. He's jumped onto the proverbial DW bandwagon that his "followers" must have faith in his words, believing without seeing. Far too many religious zealots and cult leaders use this rationalization, and in my mind, it made his entire story suspect.

Dracon
3rd August 2015, 16:56
even Shane to some extent (but I think his motives are distraction in a Goode way), and anyone who challenges their new (or old) sacred cow gets shut down fast.

"


My motives have nothing to do with "alternative media" or whistleblowing or disclosure. If no one here ever read it, I would be quite happy.

Between self importance and paranoia, the alternative media has issues. Issues that created the environment that elevated the story in question on this thread.


Something people need to stop saying to themselves is "(this person) believes what they are saying." No they don't. Psychopathic minds can convince themselves of anything, including making a claim while even knowing its untrue.

ERK
3rd August 2015, 17:31
My motives have nothing to do with "alternative media" or whistleblowing or disclosure. If no one here ever read it, I would be quite happy.

Between self importance and paranoia, the alternative media has issues. Issues that created the environment that elevated the story in question on this thread.


Something people need to stop saying to themselves is "(this person) believes what they are saying." No they don't. Psychopathic minds can convince themselves of anything, including making a claim while even knowing its untrue.

Couldn't agree more, although in my experience psychopaths do start believing their lies.



"Between self importance and paranoia, the alternative media has issues. Issues that created the environment that elevated the story in question on this thread."


^^^^ This.

Aragorn
3rd August 2015, 17:36
Between self importance and paranoia, the alternative media has issues. Issues that created the environment that elevated the story in question on this thread.

Agreed.


Something people need to stop saying to themselves is "(this person) believes what they are saying." No they don't. Psychopathic minds can convince themselves of anything, including making a claim while even knowing its untrue.

Hmm... I think you're conflating psychopathy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy) with psychosis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis). They are two distinct and very different conditions.

Dracon
3rd August 2015, 17:45
Having spent the majority of my life around psychopathic people, I'll stick to my words but understand your point above Aragorn. :)

Aianawa
3rd August 2015, 20:40
If anything, those believing and/or discerning are at least not going through the paranoia I have been observing from many, I feel we are very lucky on this site, that the haters are removed fast and debate and logic and fluffy can continue without their vibration interfering.

Daozen
3rd August 2015, 23:39
This is all fear mongering, it is not going to happen, and it is easy to understand why, in late september (solstice and thereafter) it is OVER, simple as that - when the light is the closest, the what you refer to be darkness seems overwhelmingly - like now at least still for many humans if they still suffer from mass mind control.

I hope you are right, and I read the rest of your post, thanks. I have a long track record of calling out fear mongering. I am building a natural timeline: Hydroponics, solar and wind power, salt water engine, crowdfunding, all of this is good. I don't consent to: virtual reality everywhere, Google glass, nannites, GMO, biotech, augments, centralized banking etc.

Technology is a double edged sword. Two timelines: I call it the Lemurian vs Atlantean timeline, or the Cybernetic vs the Natural timeline. Or the Robocop vs Lord of The Rings timeline. I have been writing about a natural timeline since 2009.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread508014/pg1

I hope humanity is canny enough to take the good things without the bad.

Daozen
3rd August 2015, 23:47
It's still worth reading the Blue Avian story, because it offers us an insight as to how TPTW want(ed) to control the narrative of the next few years
. It goes deeper than some guy making up lies in his bedroom. GOODET has a point of contact with the cabal.

Look at this (in bold at the end of the post):


Q8. Which group of extraterrestrials helped the Nazi’s in their battle with Admiral Byrd in 1946/1947, and developing an off-world presence?

There was help from the Draco Federation as well as a group that the NAZI’s were led to believe were ET’s (referred to as “Arianni” or “Aryans”, sometimes called “Nordics”) but were actually an Ancient Earth Human Break Away Civilization that had developed a Space Program (referred to as “The Silver Fleet”) and created vast bases below the Himalayan Mountains (largest in Tibet and call the system Agartha) and a few other regions. The first craft they built used Mercury turbines, and electro-gravity engines were developed by the assistance of this group. Again the NAZI’s and to this day many Earth Humans who are in contact with them and others believe them to be ET’s (because of their deceptions) when they are actually very much Earth Based Humans from Ancient Break Away Civilizations. I have heavily avoided speaking in depth about the few Ancient Break Away Earth Civilizations that have Space Programs and massive bases on the Earth, the Moon and elsewhere in the Sol System and other Sol Systems. Some of them have been extremely deceptive and convinced some people that they are ET groups that are here to assist Humanity. Some people have memorized some of these stories like some people memorize religious text. The Illuminati/Cabal has had a falling out with some of them and want them exposed for what they are. I think they should do the dirty work. I am not going to cause controversy that will just be a distraction from the main Blue Avian Message of Becoming Loving, Forgiving and Focusing on Expanding your Consciousness and Vibration.

This is smoking gun evidence. From this quote you can discern 3 things.

1) GOODET has a point of contact with the Cabal/Illuminati.
2) They don't like the Agartha Network and are starting a pre-emptive smear campaign.
3) He doesn't like what they are pushing him to say.

This all comes down to the fight between the natural and the cybernetic timeline. Agartha wants to build "Lord of the Rings with Laptops." Imagine living in the Shire with smartphones. The Cabal want to build THX1138/Robocop.

We get to choose.

Aianawa
4th August 2015, 00:16
Does not look or feel like proof to myself, but likely had contact from the look of his journey, few big smear campaigns old and new a happening as anything humanly helpfullll plus consciousness and/or mind raising must be smeared or slowed at least, he does not like many things as he is still learning/remembering.

RikkiTikkiTavi
4th August 2015, 01:05
Here is a comment I found on Ben Fulford's site today. Might I be correct in assuming this is sarcasm? I had no idea Gaiam was a publicly traded company on NASDAC.


Oh David, thank you so much for your massive and brave defense of truth and exposure. Hopefully you and all of your super high level insiders (that the cabal doesn’t know about and the NSA can’t even seem to trace) will all be ok.

Its just so sad that now your own website cant even be trusted as an archive of your personal history of truth. Damn that cabal!!

Now anything on your website that makes you look flakey or full of shit can easily be chalked up to these super cabal hackers that were fortunately thwarted by your super serious security protocols, but somehow still manage to alter your archive in ways that your super security cant even weed out. Wow! What an attack!

It’s no wonder your epic show is such an explosive Gaiam TV hit smashing all records. Even with Gaiam TV being a publicly traded NASDAQ company and with officers from other fortune 500 companies… Still, Gaiam is willing to risk it all to get your truth on the air. Gotta love em!

It really is just incredible the chances they are taking in risking their NASDAQ status just to make sure your truth gets out. So amazing of those founders and board officers actually care about truth so much they are willing to risk their own safety, growth projections, and performance bonuses. Truly amazing. Such incredibly brave souls you are.

Daozen
4th August 2015, 01:14
My high level insider sources can confirm that is sarcasm.

What's that about his archive being manipulated? I think his years of distracting people are coming home to roost, and he's getting frantic.

Outlander
4th August 2015, 01:27
Here is a comment I found on Ben Fulford's site today. Might I be correct in assuming this is sarcasm? I had no idea Gaiam was a publicly traded company on NASDAC.

Ben Fulford!

Breakfast with Chinese Red Dragon triad leaders, lunch with their Black Dragon counterparts, diner with a Japanese gokudō samurai/yakuza - or 仁侠団体 ('ninkyō dantaia') as he calls himself - it's all in a days work for Ben Fulford.

Now here's someone who's words I never ever doubted!

Aianawa
4th August 2015, 04:26
Sarcasm on the menu, served with judgement sauce and side salad of letus lovall. lol

Imo there has and is a continual energy clearing happening with us all, being deceived is probably a biggie.

Decieving oneself even bigger.

Naxil
4th August 2015, 10:53
hello any chance to find SUBTITLE or text? i not understand speaking english at all... lot of words is speaked with accents... i have find some video called "Cosmo disclosure" but on my old linux pc the video is very slow (idk why, youtube run fast... on 360p or less) but some flash/html5 player not permitt the resolution change... the cosmo disclousure video have lot of subtitle.. but again the video is sloooooow..... thank u i really want read/listen what Corey say! it's explosion info.... because iam sure we are not alone.. i have see it from long time ago. My sister and my father see with me a fireball on the sky.... that fireball split in 3pieces under the cloud.... and lot of other situation..

The One
4th August 2015, 11:23
hello any chance to find SUBTITLE or text? i not understand speaking english at all... lot of words is speaked with accents... i have find some video called "Cosmo disclosure" but on my old linux pc the video is very slow (idk why, youtube run fast... on 360p or less) but some flash/html5 player not permitt the resolution change... the cosmo disclousure video have lot of subtitle.. but again the video is sloooooow..... thank u i really want read/listen what Corey say! it's explosion info.... because iam sure we are not alone.. i have see it from long time ago. My sister and my father see with me a fireball on the sky.... that fireball split in 3pieces under the cloud.... and lot of other situation..

You can view this forum in your own language

Just go down to the bottom of this page click the icon where it says select language

cheers

bsbray
4th August 2015, 17:44
Subtitles are hit and miss with YouTube videos. Even when they're available, I have seen a lot of them that are total nonsense.

Windancer
4th August 2015, 19:14
This all comes down to the fight between the natural and the cybernetic timeline. Agartha wants to build "Lord of the Rings with Laptops." Imagine living in the Shire with smartphones. The Cabal want to build THX1138/Robocop.

We get to choose.

Oh Boy...What choices! Yuk on both
:vom:

Daozen
5th August 2015, 01:20
Oh Boy...What choices! Yuk on both
:vom:

lol. OK. It's really about doing whatever we want as long as we take care of the Earth. There will be a lot of diversity. No one will be forced to do anything. What's your vision?

Windancer
5th August 2015, 02:54
Absolutely to take care of mother and be one with her. I am just not so fancy on the cell phone thing. I have been researching the smart meters and the microwave towers, which none of them are good for any living tissues, and the destruction they are causing all over the place. I am a professional in radiology and I am not keen on any radiation, yet it is increasing from everywhere.(course lets not forget Fukushima ?sp) No matter RADIATION, MAN MADE is DANGEROUS
Oops off point but not really...cell phones are not good! and do not go well with mother!...or any of us!
Heck NO on the THX1138 Robos!
Ya stumped me though..LOL

RikkiTikkiTavi
5th August 2015, 14:51
ARGHHH! :cracky: After watching the latest episode (#6) of Cosmic Dislosure I am more disgusted with the presentation than before. I must admit, it's an addiction to information. My mind wanting more information to process through. Whether it be truthful or not.

Am I mistaken thinking that this giant info was released some time ago? I understand for people new to these "stories" nibbling a little bit at a time is a necessity. But what really springs to mind is that this could be a large "data dump", however it is being choreographed into a "for profit" scheme with and by participants who are on record stating this information should be released without charge for the benefit of the populace. What happened?

The "make a fast buck while we can" mentality seems to have overridden "the law of one" edicts. Which in turn mutates the information presented into a form of religion. In other words, an attempt to control the flow of information and thought. IMHO :cracky:


It is understandable in today's culture/society of consumerism, materialism and greed, that one be compensated for providing beneficial information and service. However, this "operation" flies, no, smacks in the face of what the principles of the "Law of One" prescribe. Again, IMHO. :cracky:


In perceiving that what has been told to us about the upcoming changes, the "Golden Age" and the advent of the "Star Trek society" are the presenters lacking faith that these events will come to pass?!

I guess the old Navy adage I heard is correct, "CYA" (Cover Your Ass). So in case that none of these things come to be, they will have more resources in which to better their lives (materially).

Without the help of Gaiam there would only be 6 hrs. of taped information? Well hell, if the information is in fact as evolutionary to mankind as being purported then there should be no worry about the future or one's well being.

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