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jimmer
26th May 2015, 18:36
On September 22, 2013, the members of TOT began a grand journey to uncover the mysteries of the Sasquatch people.
Along the way, we found ourselves and much more.
Yet in the end, the all too omnipresent human condition left its mark.

With the demise of Mike Paterson’s relationship with the cottage owner’s son and his woman, words were cast that darkened SV3’s intent.

While Mike is in the process of re-establishing his life and research prowess, and as the owner’s son marches off with a petulance rarely seen at TOT,
we now venture forth, hand-in-hand, to break new ground with fresh attitudes – seeking far-flung vistas to explore and ponder.

So now with an open mind, big heart and forever strained eyeballs: Welcome to Sasquatch Vocalizations 4.0.*


• while we have allowed SV3 to go dark,
it’s always available in the 'unsolved mysteries; cryptids' area or through a site search (vocalizations),
plus a ‘thread search’ to ponder past posts and data.

jimmer
26th May 2015, 18:44
here's an incredible 'conversation' between at least two forest entities. (sasquatch?)
it's brief, yet quite tasty.
what a get.

Published on Jun 19, 2012
A Southern Illinois Film Student captured these sounds of two or three massive creatures
howling in the night while recording sounds of the forest for a short documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3DujvJeEqM&index=91&list=WL

jimmer
26th May 2015, 19:26
I thought it would be nice to transfer T.T.'s introductory story, for those of you who may have missed it.
file this under: what's old is new, if you never knew it.

Hello fellow travelers! I've been following this thread along with Mike's habituation videos for a while now. I was thrilled to find this board, as there are few people I can converse with in my life in meaningful ways about the goings on of Sasquatch Ontario (I get a lot of raised eyebrows and people slowly backing away from my vicinity). I was inspired to become a member of TOT when Jimmer issued an invitation for everyone to submit questions for Mike - but it looks like I'm too late to get my question approved (which is totally okay because you guys rocked the scope of thoughtful and relevant questions). I'll include it here anyway: My question is: Mike used to refer to Sasquatch as 'people' and it seems like he's moved away from that word - now refers to them as multi or inner-dimensional 'beings.' Why has Mike shifted away from the word 'people' to 'beings' - is it because of the invisibility aspect or is his research leading him away from the people theory for other reasons?

I've been fascinated with Sasquatch since I was a little girl. Although my idea of what/who Sasquatch is has completely evolved as I've followed Mike's research, it took me a while to fully believe their multi-dimensional/highly evolved spiritual nature (most of it is getting out of my head and moving into my heart - my head cannot and sometimes does not want to understand, my heart can and yearns to know the truth). Now that I'm a believer and more open-hearted/minded, I try to open my heart to our forest friends - not just when I'm in nature, but always. One of my favorite activities is to drive to the Central/Southern Utah desert and dig for rocks and gemstones. During my last trip about a month ago, I was looking for white topaz to make into some jewelry. The previous night I had watched several of Mike's videos and had Nephatia on the brain. His voice - the sound of his laugh - when he makes Mike laugh - it all makes my heart burst with joy. So as I entered the desert, I asked in my heart for the Sasquatch beings to protect me.

I was walking to the north along a dirt trail, the sun was shining and I seemed to be the only human being in the desert that morning. Bluebird sky, light breeze, feeling so completely happy to be alive on this joyous day. Suddenly (I mean suddenly - like a fraction of a nano-second) I'm on another trail facing west, looking at the north-facing trail I was just walking on. It was as if I had been put under anesthesia and woke up. I could distinctly remember walking on that trail - and now - I'm on this trail staring at the trail I was just on. I don't remember how I seemed to move from one trail to an entirely different trail in the blink of an eye. I felt super confused and my heart was beating out of my chest. The more I realized what had happened, the more frightened I got. Suddenly I "see" a picture of Sasquatch in my mind: she seemed feminine to me, she was laughing...I got the impression that she was playing with me. She told me (in my mind) to look down, and there resting gently in a small mound of sand at my feet, was the most beautiful faceted white topaz I've ever found in my years of digging around the desert for stones. My delight at finding the stone suppressed my fear and complete confusion of being taken off my path. I could still see her giggling in my mind. I told her in my mind, "Oh my goodness - thank you! Thank you for this precious gift! But YOU SCARED THE HELL OUT OF ME! I'm all alone out here. Please be gentle. That really scared me." After that, no more games, just another day in the desert. I'm planning to make a special piece of jewelry from my piece of white topaz.

Finally, I just want to say how grateful I am that I found this thread. The level of open-mindedness, positive vibes and community spirit has made me feel welcomed even though I've been a mere lurker. I've been struggling with the 'now what' aspect of this whole adventure: what do the Sasquatch want us to do with this information as Mike and others pass it on? Living in the light, honoring Mother Earth, opening our hearts to other dimensions and beings...feeling and honoring our overall connection. But how do we act on this information? How can we help? Also - a HUGE thanks to Mike/The Cottage Owner for sharing their experiences - and heartfelt thanks to Mike for offering to answer questions for us on this board. Mike - you have no idea - you and Nephatia have changed my life. The way I view the world, the way I look at myself - thank you for this opportunity to grow/evolve. Forever grateful.

Cheers!
T.T.

in response to several questions, this epic reply:

This particular area of Utah was one of my Dad's favorite places on the planet, so I try to make the trek yearly around the anniversary of his death. We share a strong connection to the desert landscape, not to mention the solitude. It's where I feel most spiritually awake. So when I set out that morning, I was on familiar ground. Although I had driven in to that area many times by myself, I'd never made the trip this early in the season and this early in the day. So I had diligently prepared by packing enough provisions to last me for a week, although I only planned to be in the desert for the day. As I headed toward my usual rock hounding area, I realized that the ground was still wet from winter and I had gone too far (you really need a 4-wheel drive vehicle for this stretch, I have a compact car that rides pretty low to the ground). I realized too late - my car became high-centered on a rock and my front tires stuck in the mud. I hadn't passed anyone for miles coming in, and I had no cell signal. The nearest gas station/sign of life is about 30 miles away. And of course I had remembered everything just in case something like this happened - except for a shovel. So I tried rocking the car with my body weight, nothing. Lifting the car off the rock (ha! impossible!), nothing. Turning my wheels in different directions. Tried digging with my hands until they became raw. I was making the situation worse. I looked around, hoping to see some sort of sign that I wasn't totally alone in the desert...nope, I was totally alone in the desert!

As I mentioned in my first post, I had been watching Mike's videos the night before and couldn't stop thinking about Nephatia and the Sasquatch beings. I said a prayer to whoever was listening - my Dad - my guides - my Sasquatch friends - for clarity on what to do. Walk the 30 miles? Set up camp and wait it out? The weird thing I remember most about this situation was feeling completely at peace. I wasn't scared, worried, freaking out. In fact a part of me - a deeper part of me that I'm still trying to connect with today - knew that I wasn't alone, knew that I was totally safe. I was surrounded by loving beings that were making sure I was protected (just as I had asked). I was surprised with myself that I didn't emotionally break down. It was a weird sense of ultra calm. 20 minutes passed after my prayer and I heard a rumbling. One of the sweetest sounds ever! Soon enough I flagged down a truck with a couple of Dads who had spent the night in the desert with their sons. "What in the world are you doing all by yourself in the middle of nowhere, darlin'?" I laughed. My rescue was swift - it took the guys about 10 minutes to dig/push me out. I loved the expressions on their little boys' faces as their Dads saved the dumb damsel in distress.

So once my car was freed, I made sure I parked it in a place I could get out. I started to feel the pain in my body from trying to dig out and move/lift my car. My muscles were shaking but my mind felt like I had just consumed a gallon of coffee. Buzzing! I thanked my angels, Dad, guides, the Sasquatch - whoever played a role in sending those guys to me right in time. There was no way I could have gotten out of there without them. As I set out on the trail I was in a meditative state of gratitude. And so I had no idea what time it was, just that it was morning and I could see my destination in front of me (a familiar landmark that always makes me realize I am in my desert home!). It must not have been an hour after I had started to walk toward this area, that the time shift/zap experience happened.

I remember looking up, seeing the landmark in the distance, and then - zap - now on a different trail, facing the direction of the trail I used to be on, landmark is now positioned totally differently. The only feeling I can equate with it is going under anesthesia and then waking up. That feeling of a foggy head, the feeling that something happened but I don't know what, the feeling that time had lapsed. I sat down because I started to feel light-headed and completely disoriented. I kept looking at the landmark, and then looking at the trail I was just on. Heart is racing, but I can't feel the pain surging through my body anymore. The physicality of my body feels completely numb. I don't know if it's the sheer adrenaline of fear, but all I feel emotionally is confusion and fear. I start to wonder if I had some sort of black-out seizure (which I've never experienced) or some other medical-related situation that made me black out and wander to another trail. In my 40 years of life, nothing like this has ever happened to me. But my brain desperately wanted to make sense of it, assign a clear reason as to how this happened. The trail from where I was to where I found myself was about 150 feet apart. When I started to try to rationalize how it happened was the moment I got the Sasquatch visual in my mind.

I have a strong instinctual nature - some friends say I'm 'psychic' - but this gift is something I'm still developing and learning to trust. Sometimes it scares me, other times it makes me feel a little bonkers. I've been working with spiritual mentors to learn how to trust my instincts/visions and not be afraid of them. So when the Sasquatch entered my mind, it wasn't a new sensation (although the image of Sas has never before entered my mind - it's usually someone who has passed or some kind of imagery/vision). I could just see her upper body/shoulders/head, and she was laughing. The funny thing was that she was covering her mouth with her hand, like she didn't want me to see that she was laughing AT me but she was clearly laughing at me. I was filled with a sense of playfulness, light-heartedness, which was an opposite state from being terrified, confused and completely disoriented. In fact I started laughing out loud - and said "WAS THAT YOU?!!!" She started laughing harder. That's when she told me to look down. The way this topaz was positioned at my feet, and the way the sun was catching the facets, it was a pretty amazing sight. I knew immediately it was 'planted' for me to find - it was too perfect to just be sitting there on top of a mound of sand, right at my toes. When I saw the topaz, I was shocked, delighted, shocked some more. I thanked the Sas profusely - told her that she scared me and asked her to be gentle with me since I was alone - and as quickly as she entered my 'field' - she was seemingly gone.

I let some time pass as I sat on that trail, gathering my faculties. I looked at the position of the sun, looked at my cell phone to see if I could determine the timing of it all - but because I hadn't tracked the time to begin with, and I was in a mental funk, I couldn't say. After more time passed the life seemed to fill my body again (kind of like your limb feels after it's been cut off from lack of blood circulation and the blood starts to pump back through). I started to feel the aches in my bones/muscles and just felt wiped out. I ended up heading back to my car, still shaken from the black-out experience, and not wanting to stray too far away just in case it happened again. I'd say the whole experience - from setting off on the trail to heading back to my car - was about 3 hours. Although it felt like 30 minutes total - again - that feeling of going under anesthesia, you were out for 8 hours and it felt like you were sleeping for 10 minutes. That unsettling feeling of knowing you were unconscious while something happened that you weren't fully aware of.

People ask in these situations why didn't you take pictures? Why didn't you a, b and c? Did you x and y? Well, when fear is surging through your blood your only viable response is to fight or flee. Your body goes into a weird preservation mode and you really can't do anything else that isn't related to fighting or fleeing. Once I got back to my car, I felt parched (my mouth and throat were soooo dry) and I think I spent 20 minutes straight emptying my bladder. It's like everything shut off and was now powering back up. I'm still processing the details of that day. I realize now that you don't need to "hunt" for Sasquatch. They are always with us, a request or thought away. And as Mike has said, they seem to know where our fear limits lie - this Sasquatch played with me enough to give me a jolt, but she didn't take it too far. And when I asked her to back off, she did, completely.

I think I'm sensitive to her presence/Sasquatch because of my lifelong connection with all things wild - I'm drawn to nature and crave it when I've been too absorbed in city life. It's where I connect with the Universe. In retrospect, I realize Sasquatch might have been with me before. A few years ago I was camping in a wilderness area in Eastern Utah and my friends were soaking in a nearby river. I stayed back at camp to nap. The whole time I felt like I was on display - like someone was watching me. I wondered who would want to watch me nap?! I couldn't shake the feeling. Very unsettling. Weeks later, I was scrolling through pictures I took of the trip and noticed a lot of orbs, some seemed to be in motion. We hadn't made a campfire, it was daylight and the weather was lovely and calm. I've done a lot of camping and I'm a photographer, but I couldn't explain the orbs. I hadn't stumbled upon Sasquatch Ontario yet, but now I realize the orbs might be related to our Forest Friends. I'll have to go back and look at them again, now that I know what I'm looking for (which, in essence, it's what you're NOT looking for as we've experienced with Mike's videos).

Thank you for indulging me with my novella! It's a lot to take in. I question myself often - was that REAL? My brain so desperately wants to take over and rationalize the situation. But I know in my heart what I experienced, and my heart tells me to trust: my heart knows. We all know. We just need to push our brains aside and just BE. Feel. The ultimate lesson I take away from this is that we need to take life less seriously. We need to play, to laugh. When we're in the thick of an ugly situation, and we immediately want to go into stress mode, look within. Be still. Ask for help. The answers will come.

as I recall, T.T. found this gift on one of her visits to her favorite place.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/TT_SM_zpsppcq0ygu.jpg

lift the veil
26th May 2015, 19:26
I just came across a Sasquatch researcher, Shel Kaoke Dion, from central Illioinis who has had some dogman sightings as well. A Sasqutch valiantly saved her daughter from a dogman during a confrontation. Check it out on my post here on the Dogman thread where she talks about that incident as well as others in an interview. http://jandeane81.com/threads/6184-Lakewood-Lycan-and-other-Dogman-Sightings?p=841926591&viewfull=1#post841926591

Anyway, Shel has a facebook page which pertains to her Sasquatch research called, Treepeekers, here https://www.facebook.com/TreepeekersDuo . Here are some photos from the site to wet your whistle.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11151040_888397554553353_5949717394999973203_n.jpg ?oh=c4b0a305959989a1d58152a15443c503&oe=55FF38D5https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11165328_888397767886665_2265722701593546023_n.jpg ?oh=7e898128c1004c018fe13dafffc97c28&oe=55FF5F48

jimmer
26th May 2015, 22:27
eastern arizona is the mogollon rim, dearly departed mitch waite's ol' stomping grounds.
jc johnson covers that region, as well.
sasquatch in arizona.
funny.
they're everywhere.

jonsnow
26th May 2015, 22:39
http://redelkspeaks.com/

a shaman view

Friends what you’re going to read may be quite extensive. Please bear with me. Many people today are interested in Bigfoot/Sasquatch. I’ve decided to write this for the public for the benefit of the species and for mankind. We are going to hear more and more about Sasquatch…. I want you all the understand that these beings are not animals. THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS LIKE WE OURSELVES ARE. They have their own houses to live and stay in, and they have their own areas. They too have a language just like you have yours. Jen-U. That’s what they call themselves just like you or I call ourselves White Americans or what not. I hope to get more language knowledge in time.

I have planned on going to an area in Saskatchewan (Canada) where a small group lives but my health and finances have negated that. I am now planning on going to a closer area where a small group live. Miles away from there, on a mountain, there’s a whole group that would make up what we would call a small village. That’s on the Colville reservation. The Indians hunt there in daylight only. They get off that mountain at dusk and they don’t go on that mountain until the sun has firmly set in. I know of a cave there that’s a burial ground for a young child and an older female. They are not related. The cave is blocked by large boulders. That’s their normal burying way. That particular mountain I don’t think I’ll be able to get to. But there is a group of at least 3 that is 300 yards from the first spot that I can get to. I just hope that they are still there. With luck, I and the 2 or 3 that will go with me will try to make contact. It will only be a 3 day run so it will take a lot of luck. We’re crossing our fingers.

I worry about my Bigfoot brothers and sisters…I am concerned for their existence…
There are two different types of Bigfoot in North and South America. Some are bad (mean), most are not. All rather interestingly talk to each other in their own tongue. Hoots, hollers and scary noises are there to frighten you away. They are just noises. A Bigfoot can run you down in 3 steps if they really wanted to. They are not trying to hurt anyone. Please excuse my language but they are simply saying “Get the Hell out of here! You are intruding on my property!”
We of the so called civilized world have boundaries such as a house is a boundary. They aren’t trying to hurt you, they just want you to get away. They are no different than you or me fighting for their rights as you or I fight for our own.

Friends before closing off this section on Bigfoot, I’d like to share a few of my own experiences with Bigfoot. It was Christmas time and a young couple wanted to go hunt for Christmas trees. I took them out into the woods, a 180 acres of fir trees, etc…Before I brought them out I went to have a look out on my own. In so doing I followed a well trodden game trail, and paid a lot of attention to everything around me. I did find a tree. The next morning they came up. It had rained a little bit through that night. As we were heading to the back of the land, low and behold where I had walked before was a big Sasquatch footprint. It was 20″ long maybe 22″ , and very wide maybe 5 -7″ wide across the toe area. On the left and right was a steep hillside making the path like a muddy bridge. On the steep hillside to the left his foot slipped in the path. He then planted his foot solidly in the path, crossed his legs over and continued down the other hillside. That’s the closest that I’ve personally been to them that I am aware of. It made the hair on our arms stand up! It was big! We did get the tree and made it back home safe and sound. On a number of occasions I’ve heard knocking approx 2:30am to 3am in the morning. That and the footprint are the only encounters that I’ve had with Bigfoot.

My brother in law was working in the woods. He arrived on site to the logging site before everyone else one morning. It was foggy, on the cold side. That kind of fog. Both were looking off to the right out over a large open area. Looking at the stumps, their eyes went to this one unusual stump and then the stump stood up and walked away on two legs. It was enormous. They thought they were looking at a tree stump but it was a Sasquatch looking at them and it was fairly close. They immediately drove back down the logging road, met their boss coming up the road to go to work and they quit.

In my experience there are definitely 2 types of Bigfoot. One is the main one I’ve been talking about. The one most people look for. Number 2 is beyond a doubt and definitely alien. The difference between the two is the alien one is more flexible in its arms, neck, and shoulders. It is also thinner. It can turn its head on its shoulders like you or I can. The standard one needs to turn its torso to move its head. There is a possibility of yet a third type. I am not that sure of this one but the possibility is certainly there. More alien like than our standard. Even taller and bigger. This one possibility is definitely if it exists demonic. That’s it folks.. I’ll write no more on the subject. I leave it up to you. Remember though the first two can most definitely speak a language. And it’s possible that the third if it exists has a language as well. That’s the end of my knowledge. I’d hate to see ours die or get killed. Do what you want with the alien or demonic ones. Please good luck, do not shoot. It’s like going next door and killing the family that lives there. The ones that live next door.

P.S. The bait we will be using is apples, oranges, and eggs hung very high in the tree. We will be using music, drums, and native flutes as well as tree knocking.

jimmer
26th May 2015, 22:49
choice find, johsnow.
keep 'em coming...Jen-U. nice.

jonsnow
26th May 2015, 23:02
jammer I know more interested even have a report about them read book about them to once not really my topic though

jimmer
26th May 2015, 23:14
so, a sasquatch walks into a bar and...

here's a fellow who turned on his camcorder to catch some unassuming wildlife.
then he walked away...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAnptMOUEec

jonsnow
26th May 2015, 23:28
Abominable Snowmen

In this book, Ivan T. Sanderson summarizes current world evidence regarding ABSMs (abominable snowmen), drawing from records and reports that are world-wide in scope and cover a broad period of time. For completeness he discusses all prevailing views, both pro and con, ranging from highly plausible accounts to reports that border on the absurd. The result is as thorough an evaluation of all known ABSM sightings as could possibly be compiled at this time

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Abominable-Snowmen-Ivan-T-Sanderson/dp/1456561871/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1432679238&sr=1-4&keywords=ivan+t+sanderson

lift the veil
26th May 2015, 23:33
Here is quaint interview with an experiencer, Connie Gwinnup, who has had many years worth of face to face encounters with the Sasquatch. She lives in Iowa and has developed friendships with many of the Sasquatch, including making pancakes for them. She says some of the older individuals speak to her. One cute story is of her husband's beer coming up missing and he thought it was the grand-kids sneaking off with some of his beer. Her husband had later died and one of the Sasquatch elders approached her and had asked for some, "spirit water," so that is when she figured out is was the Sasquatch taking her husband's beer.
:chrs:

She also talks about how she was close to one at night and noticed that he had two sets of eyelids (one set horizontal and another set vertical) and his pupils looked more cat-like. Hmmm... that is interesting :scrhd:

But she also discusses how they were all very different looking. Some look more human, while others are more ape like and they come in all different colors. And as for size, one was big enough to carry off one of her Angus cows and another was taller than 14-16 foot corn. :shocked:

She considers many of them her friends and neighbors. But she thinks there may also be a rogue in the area that has done some not so nice things. She shares some other interesting stuff, and she is quite the fire-cracker. :p

Here is the link to the interview.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sasquatchwatchradio/2015/01/28/sasquatch-watch-radio-welcomes-connie-gwinnup

jonsnow
26th May 2015, 23:41
Abominable Snowmen
Ivan T. Sanderson

The unofficial sequence I take from an extraordinary book only recently published by a Mr. John
Keel entitled Jadoo. This is the more startling in that it even mentions an incident apparently lost
and certainly forgotten over half a century before, yet states that the information therein given was
obtained firsthand. The author states that he met in 1957 in Darjeeling a retired Indian soldier
named Bombahadur Chetri, who claimed that he was among the party that killed this creature, and
that he personally examined it. He is also alleged to have said that it was about 10 feet tall, covered
with hair but for a naked face, and that it had "long yellow fangs." Further, Mr. Keel says that
Bombahadur Chetri told him that the carcass had been packed in ice and shipped to this same Sir
Charles Bell, but that he did not hear anything further of it. Nor, apparently, did Mr. Keel; and nor
have I, though I have spent a lot more time and energy than the item might seem to warrant in a
fruitless endeavor to trace further reports, official or otherwise

jonsnow
26th May 2015, 23:52
Jacko, however, is not just an isolated imp that suddenly appeared upon the scene and then
disappeared. Before his capture either he or one of his species had been reported from the same area
by Mr. Alexander Caulfield Anderson, a well-known explorer and an executive of the Hudson's Bay
Company, who was doing a "survey" of the newly opened territory and seeking a feasible trade
route through it for his company. He reported just such hairy humanoids as having hurled rocks
down upon him and his surveying party from more than one slope. That was in 1864. Many years
later, Mr. J. W. Burns (now retired and living in San Francisco) who had devoted a
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lifetime to the study of this business, unearthed an old Amerindian woman from Port Douglas at the
head of Harrison Lake (see Map II) who alleged, and brought some seconders to confirm, that she
had been kidnapped by one of these creatures in the year 1871, kept by it for a year, but finally
returned by it to her tribal homestead because she "aggravated it so much" (though, she said, it had
treated her with every consideration) . This old lady died in 1940 at the age of 86. When abducted
she was 17 years old and was, she stated, forced to swim the Harrison River by the ABSM and then
carried by him to a rock shelter where its aged parents dwelt. This account comes from Mr. Burns
who had for years enjoyed the confidence of this retiring Amerind. It has been embellished in
various ways by others to the effects that the girl had rosin plastered over her eyes by the creature;
that she became pregnant by it; and that she subsequently gave birth to a half-breed that either was
stillborn, died shortly after birth, or is still hidden by her people from the eyes of the white man.
She never said any of these things to Mr. Burns but adhered to her straightforward story till her
death. Nor is this woman's story unique. All the Amerinds of southern British Columbia Washington
State, Oregon, parts of Idaho, and the Yuroks and the Huppas of northern California not only have
similar tales to tell but a history of these creatures so complete and extensive that it would take a
volume to tell in itself. The poor Amerinds have always been and still are regarded by Americans
and Canadians as "natives," which indeed they are, but in the same light as the British used to
regard the inhabitants of all countries other than their own or at least beyond the confines of western
Europe. The stories told by, and the traditions of, Amerinds are not, therefore, regarded as of much
worth or reliability. Nonetheless and despite the fact that these peoples did not previously write and
have had even today little if any contact among themselves over any distance, their reports upon
these local ABSMs are absolutely the same all the way from the Mackenzie Range of Alaska
through the Yukon and British Columbia, down through Washington and Oregon to California, and
back to
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the western flank of the Rockies in Idaho. There are traditions and folk-tales spread over an even
wider area among these people, but this is another matter. I am here speaking of perfectly
straightforward, up-to-date accounts of encounters with such creatures that have been made by them
ever since the white man first got to speak with them and which have come in from one source or
another annually every year since the capture of Jacko. I will interject some of these as I go along.
Before doing so, however, I must put on record that I do not share the old British or what seems to
be the current American opinion of "natives" and never have. Further, as a working reporter, having
now been privileged to travel extensively throughout just the five continents with which we are
concerned in this story, I would state that I find the so-called "native" in some respects on the whole
more reliable than the foreigner, and the white foreigner in particular. First, they seem to me to
know their country better; secondly, those of them that are country folk are almost invariably
consummate naturalists and know their local fauna inside out (and much better than we do); third, if
they like you and feel that you are not going to laugh at everything they say, they are very pragmatic
and are willing to tell you, straight, what is what in their opinion; fourth, provided one appreciates
the very basic fact that to many non-Europeans there is a nonmaterial world that is just as real as the
material one, one can readily distinguish between stories of one and the other, and may even
without giving offense ask the teller to which category any story belongs. When my job was
collecting animals for scientific institutions in out of the way parts of the world--a profession I
pursued for two decades--I always asked the natives for information on their local fauna. While all
people may display, and often do so, lapses or gaps in their knowledge, and so just do not know an
animal that has always been right under their noses, what they do tell has, I have found, invariably
turned out to be the truth. More than this, some peoples, such as the Mayas of Yucatan, are
absolutely incredible "taxonomists" in that they differentiate, and have names for every type of
animal, so that in one case I found out after long and patient
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recording phonetically that they even had the spiders of their country classified, all in just the same
way as does our modern zoology. Then finally, I would also put on record that I have a particular
respect for the nonprofessional American "Indian" as he is so incorrectly and lugubriously called.

jimmer
27th May 2015, 00:28
thanks jonsnow.
I assume those excerpts are from Ivan Sanderson's book.

jimmer
27th May 2015, 14:09
this is interesting.

MK examines a tuft of suspect hair.

what he finds is ultra-odd.

and he's got a theory...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zT8uKwY-R8

sandancer
27th May 2015, 17:13
here's an incredible 'conversation' between at least two forest entities. (sasquatch?)
it's brief, yet quite tasty.
what a get.

Published on Jun 19, 2012
A Southern Illinois Film Student captured these sounds of two or three massive creatures
howling in the night while recording sounds of the forest for a short documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3DujvJeEqM&index=91&list=WL

This does remind me of the recording Mike made , when he said the sound cracked the ice !!:rock:

It certainly had my two cats jumping :hilarious::shocked:

jimmer
27th May 2015, 18:16
from the wayback machine (first posted by samos) comes ron morehead's theory of the quantum bigfoot.
this is quite a coming out party of sorts.

if, like me, you have an excellent text to speech capacity, here's the perfect time to crank it up : )

Quantum Bigfoot Theory
Posted by Ron Morehead on Sunday, October 19, 2014

Are you in the ‘Ape Camp’? Do you think that Bigfoot is probably just another ape that needs discovering? You may want to consider this article and re-evaluate that thought…especially if you’re getting frustrated in the age-old way of searching for Bigfoot and it’s not getting you anywhere.

Researchers knock on trees, sound-blast screams and yells, or whoop all over the hillside trying to get the attention of a Bigfoot. Professional trackers experience track-ways left by these creatures that abruptly end, highly trained dogs will not pick up the scent, or if they do they usually don’t come back. If what you’re doing doesn’t get the results you want, change what you’re doing…it’s that simple. Folks who claim to be researchers discount those surreal accounts that don’t fall into their preset paradigm. Is it time to reach beyond Newtonian rules of classical mechanics, and delve into a science that was established almost 100 years ago by Einstein, Born, Heisenberg and Schrödinger? The world has become dependent on this hidden micro-world science, yet its properties are not thoroughly understood…if you can’t see it, it aint there…right? Wrong. We use cell phones, microwave ovens, computers, etc…all of which are brought to us through quantum mechanics. Quantum physics is a subset of quantum mechanics.

Professional researchers have found evidence of quantum coherence in living organisms. It has been found in our sense of smell, in the parts of bird’s brains responsible for navigation and in plant photosynthesis. However, the world of quantum physics has been locked in mathematics. It’s accepted worldwide by physicists. We don’t see it, but it’s ever present in our lives. We get that feeling that something is wrong, the phone rings and Aunt Marybell Sue was in a car wreck. You have a déjà vu …this has happened before. Without knowing it, could psychics actually be relating to folks from a quantum level?

Some of us researchers are in the dark ages of science. I think it’s time to move forward and consider what it is that gives Bigfoot his unusual abilities. Is there a race of giants that have inherited the ability to move into the macro-world with quantum physics? In the past, while interviewing purported Bigfoot accounts I’ve discarded those that say they saw the creature disappear. Many have told me that unusual lights, orbs or UFO’s, are present when they witnessed a Bigfoot. Advanced technology might seem paranormal to many, but it has previously been on earth as can be readily seen all over South America.

What’s considered paranormal today, with knowledge, will become normal tomorrow. So, if you choose to follow this line of thought, how do we change our methods of research into the Bigfoot phenomenon?

Number One: if you think you might be able to claim the 10 million dollar reward by the use of your high powered gun, put it away…if these creatures are what I’m alluding to that won’t work.
Number Two: You don’t have to be a physicist to understand enough about quantum physics to realize it could very well be our answer to the understanding of how Bigfoot might operate.
Number Three: These entities will make contact with you on their terms and in their time…unless, of course, you’re lucky like Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin and get a picture of one (Patterson/Gimlin film, 1967). Set up camp in a remote area where other humans are not likely to be around. Be consistent and predicable. Don’t try to set up traps…their cognizance will outshine you on that level. They are part human. What the other part is might be something to consider, and then think a little on whether or not you really want to make contact with them.

So, should we be afraid…just what could Bigfoot be anyway? The remains of giants have been found on earth before. Most of us know about Greek mythology regarding aliens copulating with human women who then gave birth to a half god-half human, e.g., Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Hercules, and so on. They supposedly had great powers and supernatural abilities. And most of us know of the biblical accounts of the same type of cross-breeding. If we are to believe there is a core of truth to these stories, could Bigfoot be a diluted remnant of these and have inherited some of their quantum abilities.

We all know of the different accounts of the great flood in ancient texts. According to some of these texts it was brought about because of the infection of the human genome (man, God’s special creation) by aliens, e.g. the Nephilim, half alien-half human. That being said let’s move forward to Isaac’’s wife, Rebekah, and the twins she gave birth to. The first boy was Esau, who was red and hairy (Gen 26: 24-26). The second was Jacob, who was loved, but Esau was hated (Romans 9: 13)…why? As the story goes, Esau gave up his birthright to Jacob, eventually moved, and became the patriarch of a race of bearded, red-haired, nomadic people. Because of the ‘red’ they were called the Edomites (Edom meaning red). Recently one of my colleagues pointed out that the Edomites were depicted in Michelangelo’s painting of The Last Judgment, in 1541. At the bottom of the painting you’ll see the hairy Edomites in a cave…hmm, any connection?

Now the big question; can two eggs in a woman’s uterus be fertilized by two different males at the same time? The answer is ‘Yes’. One in 400 sets of fraternal human twins is bipaternal. So my theory, which is shared by a few others, is that an alien (Lucifer), trying to corrupt the human genome again, fertilized one of Rebekah’s eggs and Esau was the result. This would have created a human hybrid and Bigfoot just might be a remnant of that.

Bottom line; these creatures (Bigfoot/Sasquatch) have quantum abilities because their ancestral father was alien (nuDNA, Lucifer). Their ancestral mother was human (mtDNA, Rebekah). They are a diluted remnant of alien intervention into God’s creation. Esau took his wives from Canaan…the land of giants. Why would an alien (Lucifer) go through the trouble of, again, trying to infect the human genome, post flood…maybe to prevent an uncontaminated birth of a very special being to be born hundreds of years later?…that very same individual who would keep God’s creation pure and allow us to be what He created us to be (1 Peter 2:9).

There are many theories regarding Bigfoot, this is just one. If the accounts are true regarding UFO’s being sighted around these creatures perhaps aliens are still working the earth, altering the DNA of a great ape…there is a reason…

–Ron Morehead

http://ronmorehead.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/19/quantum-bigfoot-theory/quantum-bigfoot-theory.jpg

http://ronmorehead.com/quantum-bigfoot-theory/

lift the veil
28th May 2015, 01:02
Here is an interesting interview with a woman who has experience with Sasquatch and Dogmen. As this is the Sasquatch thread I will high-light the Sasquatch aspects. Her name is Khat Hansen and her father is a member of the Choctaw tribe. She was raised in the tribe's ways and began learning to be a medicine woman from a very early age as she had the ability to "see" things that others could not. This included seeing the Sasquatch. She was taught there were two types. One was friendly and the other was not. The unfriendly ones had red eyes, were attracted to the smell of blood, were very primitive and came from underground. The friendly ones were considered the "guardians", were very intelligent, but she did end up getting some bumps and bruises when she got in their way. The friendly Sasquatch were called a word that translated to "seen but unseen," meaning they could be standing beside you and you would not see them. They are not otherworldly but had gifts and abilities that we lost along the way.

Here is the interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpKXuMjGKlA

lift the veil
28th May 2015, 13:49
Here is more from KHAT HANSEN where she talks about the connection between the Orbs and Bigfoot as told here. http://www.apmagazine.info/index.php/component/content/article?id=110


Gaia has created Orbs or watchers for the purpose of seeing first hand exactly what is being done in areas of woods and parks. We call these beings the eyes of Gaia. Thru them she watches and takes stock of areas. The Bigfoot is used as a type of monitor of humans and wilderness areas, a babysitter if you will. They are easily hidden and quite intelligent; along with these gifts they have the ability to make themselves known and what is expected of humans sharing this earth with them. I myself have grown and learned over the years. I recycle everything...literally. I compost, garden, weave and have taught my children to do this as well. In doing this, I believe that in some small way I am contributing to the well being of this planet. The orblings interact on a daily basis with both myself and my children. They are the watchers for the Bigfoot. They let them know just who or what is in the forest and if they should be wary and careful.

Here are some more interesting excerpts from a Khat Hansen interview here http://z3.invisionfree.com/Free_Thinkers_II/ar/t139.htm

Please note her reference to the Patterson Gimlin footage and how it was attained. Very interesting...


So, if I want to hang out with Bigfoot I know where to go. I have had dozens of encounters. Building a relationship is very difficult and time consuming. There are some pretty serious trust issues on their part. They are very upset at what we as humans have done to the Earth. Bigfoot in the Pacific Northwest predominantly live in Old Growth Forest, and 97% of that forest is GONE, COMPLETELY DESTROYED! How would you feel if you were in their position? They know is it is our nature to destroy whatever we touch. If humans touch them they will be destroyed too. The Alaskan Natives have a saying, "Bigfoot is afraid of his shadow. If he can see his shadow men with guns can see him." Which leads to a point I want to make. Bigfoot is NOT nocturnal. Are you nocturnal in your home? Bigfoot are more gutsy at night because they think we can’t see in the dark. But they are there night and day. They also tend to live in loose knit tribal systems, which is to say several loose knit families living in the same territory. There are tribal laws that they must follow, some of which include to not allow themselves to be seen, and to not leave any evidence of their existence, and don't do anything that will bring heat down on the tribe. They are self governing. They are also on every major continent on the face of this Earth.

It is the Bigfoot that have been kicked out of the tribe that can be the dangerous ones, because there is not anyone that they have to answer to, there are no rules they have to adhere to. Bigfoot is a shape shifter and an inter-dimensional traveler of sorts, using portals similar to the fairy portals or "Little People Portals." They are also extremely psychic and telepathic. They communicate through thought transference. I have learned that when I leave them offerings of food it needs to be 100% organic, for to expose them to the industrial world in any way is to kill them! I stress this point because I have known people who have left them store bought food with good intentions.

The Bigfoot don't always intend to be seen. They are usually seen when they are preoccupied or distracted. For them to be seen is to bring heat down on the entire tribe! When they are dealing with a specific individual in a spiritual manner they choose who sees them. They are also not vegetarian as some people think. They are just like most of us. They eat what they can get. After all it does come down to survival, and 97% of their food sources are gone. Bigfoot themselves are covered in long hair. The color can really vary from black, to brown, to reddish brown. I even spoke to an Alaskan Native who saw one walking across a swamp that was half dark brown and his top torso was, "The color of a brown paper bag." They generally have wide shoulders, and long arms. This information: "They can get up to 15 feet tall. They can get up to 3000 years old here" is passed on to me from a Yurok/Karuk Native of Northern California. These tribes have had extensive experience with the Bigfoot, including in ceremony and council. It is also noteworthy that the famous Patterson footage taken in Northern California was obtained with the help of a Yurok Indian (A Bigfoot medicine man) who performed a ceremony that lured the Bigfoot out of hiding so Patterson could get a good photo of it! And the Indian was sick for a long time afterwards for his spiritual violation. I am very careful who I bring along with me to the places I have my experiences with Bigfoot. The Bigfoot will know your intentions upon entering their environment. I have spoken anonymously with a Bigfoot research center up North and they confirmed that they had reports of Bigfoot getting to heights of 15 feet tall. They also tend to mark their territory (and I'm not talking about urinating on the trees), and compete with the bears for territorial rights. You will also not be too likely to find Little People within Bigfoot territory as the Bigfoot tend to eat them.

One of the biggest lessons I have learned about them is when you are in the forest, you had better be on your best behavior because you are in someone else's house and they are bigger, faster, and 1000 times more powerful than you are. So be respectful! I have been in situations where if they wanted to kill me they could have, and there would have been no one for miles to hear my screams! But one of the biggest things I have on my side in all of this is the medicine persons who have trained me (one of which is Yurok/Karuk Native) told me one of my spirit powers/medicines is Bigfoot medicine, so I regard them as family and sacred, and vice versa.

Here she talks about the Snake people who she references is responsible for people going missing. :hmm: IMHO Snake ~ to Devil, in "the Devil is in the Details," reference from David Paullides Missing 411 book.


Khat Hansen: The Snake people are evil. They arrived here before the Great spirit created man. They claimed this planet as their own and caused great strife with Great Spirit. No matter what he did for them they were never happy. First the earth was too hot then it was too cold. There was not the type of food that they liked and all was bad. When Great spirit created man the Snake people decided that they were not as smart as they and would be used as slaves and food. The Snake people live underground too as it was easier for them to control the heat and the sun could not hurt their eyes. They dug many caverns and many cities connecting to each other around the world. They hardly ever came above ground except to steal men and women for slaves and food. The Ant people did not think it fair that they used us for such and told us to gather our weapons and to make war on the Snake people. With their help we made a truce with the Snake people and they stopped coming up from the earth to steal us men. But, the Snake people are evil and do not honor their treaty with us, and come up from the earth to steal men and women and children still. They deny that they do this and try to add witchery to their words to make us believe they do honor their treaty, but we know. When our children and men are missing we live in fear, and know that the Snake people have taken them. Snake people can look like you or I, or any animal, but for only a short time when they are using witchery to fool us.

jimmer
28th May 2015, 14:30
Here is more from KHAT HANSEN where she talks about the connection between the Orbs and Bigfoot as told here. http://www.apmagazine.info/index.php/component/content/article?id=110

"I was taught that the earth is a living being.
A being, that even though she may not be able to physically get up and move around,
has found ways to achieve this by creating several types of beings that she uses to watch the earth,
track weather patterns, and us! "


john keel, way back then, believed the same thing:
the earth is a 'living being' that interacts and responds to our moral coil –
sometimes will a grace, sometimes a shrug, sometimes with rage.

so, what or who is 'gaia'?
and these orbs we see, that mike has documented, are separate beings, different from interdimensional astral-travel?

from khat's YT site. (posted long ago at SV3)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UluhHOQbH08

jimmer
28th May 2015, 14:51
from mike's FB page.
(this baby has it all : )

"One of my favourite pieces of audio captures with what sounds like Nephatia speaking language near the end.
I believe there's two individuals present here, one playing with the wind sock over the mics that run through the sunroof of my vehicle.
That was one of my usual set up locations for audio which brought us some incredible pieces of recorded sasquatch vocalizations."

https://soundcloud.com/invisible-giant/sasquatch-my-vehicle-november-1st-2013

http://www.bigfootbuzz.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Nephatia.jpg

jimmer
28th May 2015, 20:42
want more details on the skinwalker ranch story? (oh, yes, please ; )

george knapp is interviewed on utah radio.
it's quite good.
(his staticky phone line clears up at some point)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcPsChjUyhQ
(bonus question: where's the line between the interdimensional sasquatch and the tricksters?)

jimmer
29th May 2015, 04:03
keep your fingers crossed, SO is back.

(mike's first video journal)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKTKcJrOGSk

jimmer
29th May 2015, 14:01
from mike's FB page, replying to the congratulations:

Mike Paterson They're still filing copyright claims and I'm fighting them all.

lift the veil
29th May 2015, 14:02
John Allen has a new post on his blog here http://myladyofthewoods.blogspot.com/2015/05/wimby.html

Here is an interesting Q&A excerpt.


MATT('s Question)
Do the different groups of hairy folk have different abilities in changing their frequency.......an example could be that the Yowie can goto 4th and 5th whereas the Yeti can only goto 4th?

Can a Yeti travel to North America and be a gatekeeper of a portal there? And vice versa? Or is the portals frequency/energy specific to the local inhabitants?


WIMBY('s Answer)
Guarding a door is given with high honor. We give the door the protection that was given to us. There are ones that want to come in and ones that are trying to leave. No one leaves the door right now. The guardians who watch these doors are busy. Some of us are with you in this. Some of us are on the other side of the door. You do not know where you are right now. Soon you will know what is on the other side of the door.


TRACEY('s Answer)
Not every portal is guarded. From what I have seen, guarding a portal is an honor of sorts and taken very seriously. There are many different types of beings that guard portals. For some it is a family duty. For others, they have been doing for so long that I can't track when they began guarding. My experience thus far is that portals all feel the same. It is simply a gate. There may be one vibration on this side and a different vibration on the other. I have seen many different Dimensional beings come through the same portal, so no, it does not seem to be energy specific.

jimmer
29th May 2015, 14:50
have you ever been given driving directions that were misleading,
causing you to drive around until you found your destination?
and once there, you knew you'd never find the place again...

introducing, rick.

here's a fellow who began investigating lights in the sky,
eventually leading him to the forest people.

this is a well documented journey that has led him to many discoveries and theories.

how it began:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNTFIXoXgJA&google_comment_id=z130urdhsk3eutmzu04cd5vyzpatdtvh o34

and along the way, he is given a sign:

(click on the youtube logo to view and watch this clip large)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up-GwVFFhIA

have fun clicking through to his YT page to explore rick's many video journals. (https://www.youtube.com/user/Realityghost/videos)

he now knows there is a ufo/sasquatch connection.
he wants to understand their 'technology.'

it's quite a trip.

lift the veil
29th May 2015, 14:52
John Allen's latest blog entry commented on this new habituator from Austrailia, Bright Garlick. I actually recognize this guy's name from his comments on some of Mike's Youtube videos.

I have just started watching. Looks as though this guy has had E.T. contact as well. He asked them about the Yowie and they told him how to make contact with the Yowie. Hmm.... :hmm:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP9vcjPqwzg

jimmer
29th May 2015, 20:32
it's friday, as well as hurry-up and wait day, so I've been bingeing on rick's videos.
he's been at it since 2007.

take a look at this find, 12 feet off the ground.
he was definitely on to something.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWYbTsYtHQU

mojo
29th May 2015, 21:25
Jimmer unfortunately the link above is not working...

jimmer
29th May 2015, 22:10
Jimmer unfortunately the link above is not working...

you'll need to click on the youtube logo (below right) to watch in @ YT.

find 'adjacent worlds part 1' and be sure your browser has the 'autoplay slider' on.

I'm on video 28. really interesting...

jimmer
30th May 2015, 01:31
Watch Bases 35 ( Miles Johnston ) The Sasquatch . It is about how the human civilisation is nearly a crossroads i.e. a extinction level event they send warning to humanity interesting video.

Worth a watch for any Sasquatch fans here if you pay money they suggest going into the forest and interviewing one (Sasquatch ) would you like a video interview with one. I read some where that some Sasquatch live amongst humanity have jobs but are tall and hairy so you never know your neighbour might be one where I hear it I think it was Bill Ryan at the other place.

good ol' kewaunee.
a real staple at SV3.
glad you brought him around to SV4 for those of us
who aren't acquainted with his work and philosophies.

kewaunee is the sasquatch whisperer.

jimmer
30th May 2015, 20:10
if you are following rick's exploits, you've either seen this or you're getting to it.
if you aren't following his videos, here's something pretty odd he caught on his trailcam.

he figured there were two entities on this property he was exploring:
sasquatch and a cloven hoved creature. both were leaving prints.
as I recall, this camera was elevated 6-8' off the ground.

watch this clip from video 46.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95FyzW52NkM&feature=youtu.be&t=3m35s

jimmer
30th May 2015, 23:43
I finished this rick's 'adjacent worlds' series. all 75 videos.

his conclusion?

it wasn't a sasquatch he was interacting with.

it was the entity from video 46.

my eyes and mind are blown out.

lift the veil
31st May 2015, 00:16
Thats all? 75 videos, what a slacker. @@ LOL. Your mind must be scrambled right now. That is what I call dedication to research. :thup::thup::thup:

Frances
31st May 2015, 01:37
Had myself a laugh at LTV's post, I could not have done 75 videos also.

The conclusion that Rick comes to after his personal interaction with this entity is quite telling. He is making reference to the entities of the supernatural world/dimension.

It maybe hard to separate the two, more so if they are out to trick people, which is what they do.
"The Tricksters" are always present, they don't have good intentions.
Once you become aware of them, it's harder for them to hide.
My thoughts only.
Frances.

jimmer
31st May 2015, 02:00
cringe. I got hooked : )

rick is ex-military and I believe native-american.
if for nothing else, his tracking knowledge and techniques are something to behold.
besides, he's a really affable kind of guy and who can verbally express things well.
(quite the musician, as well, with innovative guitar work)

then the trailcam sessions started coming.

he really isn't into the paranormal, per se.
he sees 'them' as people who have unimaginable 'technology.'

he's still at it after all these years and has formed lots of opinions.

we should invite him to hang out at SV4.

jimmer
31st May 2015, 21:01
jammer you are a expert in my opinion tell of your experience with sasquatch I am interested :popc:


I'm a enthusiast, just like you, jonsnow.
now, pass that popcorn.

jimmer
1st June 2015, 15:04
I'm waiting to get rick dakotah's approval to post his reply to me.
(hint: he's not really a joiner : )
nonetheless, I've asked him to drop by to see what he thinks.

in the meantime, here are two specific video journals to review: teleportation and time loss.

with a car show as the backdrop, rick describes an occurrence that happened
to his friend and him. listen to his voice. he is shakened and confused.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw0uFJyLHSY
on the next journal, he returns to the site and reconstructs what happened.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTpM5IldAgI
while you're putting this together for yourself, think about all the bizarre missing 411 accounts.
each and every case has to do with sudden disappearance, without a trace.
when found (alive or in parts), the victims were somehow transported miles away, without warning.

does rick's story answer how david paulides cases actually occurred?
if so, the why is still to be discovered.

jimmer
1st June 2015, 18:38
and....SO is down again. just incredible.

the son and his gal pal are really, really busy people these days.

bitter clingers to the end.

what kills me – there are those who breathlessly followed mike's work
that are now followers of these two.

that could be the most incredible aspect of this drama.
it's called, watch your back.

jimmer
1st June 2015, 23:11
here's a recently released from the john e. mack institute,
this 2002 lecture on the 'anomalous.

during the early 90s, he began investigating alien abduction cases and
by the time he gave this presentation, he arrived were john keel and others resided.

at the 30:50 mark, he talks about the 'tricksters.'

this is the first time I've heard him go there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I2KX9ercFQ

lift the veil
2nd June 2015, 00:17
while you're putting this together for yourself, think about all the bizarre missing 411 accounts.
each and every case has to do with sudden disappearance, without a trace.
when found (alive or in parts), the victims were somehow transported miles away, without warning.

does rick's story answer how david paulides cases actually occurred?
if so, the why is still to be discovered.

Jimmer - I don't know if you are following the information that Corey is putting out but recently he talked about how many people are abducted and are sold/bartered into the Galactic Human trafficking system to be used as slaves/food in underground facilities and/or sent to off planet secret bases/facilities. Here is an article that Michael Salla with a Q&A with Corey. http://exopolitics.org/galactic-human-slave-trade-ai-threat-to-end-with-full-disclosure-of-et-life/

This could explain some of these missing 411 cases.

jimmer
2nd June 2015, 00:28
Jimmer - I don't know if you are following the information that Corey is putting out but recently he talked about how many people are abducted and are sold/bartered into the Galactic Human trafficking system to be used as slaves/food in underground facilities and/or sent to off planet secret bases/facilities. Here is an article that Michael Salla with a Q&A with Corey.
This could explain some of these missing 411 cases.

used as food. hmm. I'll look into it.
thanks LTV.

here's some food for thought.

a surprised juvy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erg0GBstjSE

jimmer
2nd June 2015, 00:42
Jimmer - I don't know if you are following the information that Corey is putting out but recently he talked about how many people are abducted and are sold/bartered into the Galactic Human trafficking system to be used as slaves/food in underground facilities and/or sent to off planet secret bases/facilities. Here is an article that Michael Salla with a Q&A with Corey. http://exopolitics.org/galactic-human-slave-trade-ai-threat-to-end-with-full-disclosure-of-et-life/

This could explain some of these missing 411 cases.


"Corey describes the very positive role of an Ancient Mayan Space Program that has established colonies in the Pleiades..."

I won't get into this unless I had some grasp of this fellow's credentials and background.
much like accepting bob lazar's testimonies, the witness should go through a vetting
before any of it is digested as sustenance.
I don't mean to be rude, only honest.

that said, I think keel, valleé and now mack had it more right –
it's not out there. it's all around us.

this summer my reading regimen will focus on this subject.
until then, it's all an open book.

Frances
2nd June 2015, 00:49
Truth is, Jimmer & Lift The Veil, I, at the moment are seeing GoodET, Ra, Law Of One and The Ruiner as "Tricksters".

I cannot help it, I am trying to understand it, but this mind of mine just won't let it go.
Frances.

jimmer
2nd June 2015, 00:56
Truth is, Jimmer & Lift The Veil, I, at the moment are seeing GoodET, Ra, Law Of One and The Ruiner as "Tricksters".

I cannot help it, I am trying to understand it, but this mind of mine just won't let it go.
Frances.

I don't want to belabor this, but anyone professing enlightenment and refers to themselves
as the ruiner should be suspect.
seems really negative, to me. (and tricky : )

no disrespect. just honest talk.

sandancer
2nd June 2015, 12:00
and....SO is down again. just incredible.

the son and his gal pal are really, really busy people these days.

bitter clingers to the end.

what kills me – there are those who breathlessly followed mike's work
that are now followers of these two.

that could be the most incredible aspect of this drama.
it's called, watch your back.

SO now says terminated , what a loss due to the bitterness and lack of integrity of those two people .

For those of us who are not on facebook , jimmer and anyone else who follow Mike there would you please keep us up to date with any developments .

I cannot believe it had to end this way , I just have to hope that Mike finds his way to continue with his new lady and can hopefully reconnect with Nephatia and /or a new family who will continue to give us insight into their world .

I honestly feel something is missing from my life , or am I just a sad individual ?

jimmer
2nd June 2015, 14:44
SO now says terminated , what a loss due to the bitterness and lack of integrity of those two people .

For those of us who are not on facebook , jimmer and anyone else who follow Mike there would you please keep us up to date with any developments .

I cannot believe it had to end this way , I just have to hope that Mike finds his way to continue with his new lady and can hopefully reconnect with Nephatia and /or a new family who will continue to give us insight into their world .

I honestly feel something is missing from my life , or am I just a sad individual ?

I always wondered how this incredible story would conclude: (since all good stories must come to an end)

• would we witness a historic disclosure of this netherworld and its inhabitants?

• would mike one day simply announce, 'just kidding'?

• would mike's story help prove that john keel was right?

• would the property owner reveal himself to be something or someone unexpected?

• would this story outlast me?

• would nephatia's clan leave the area and mike high and dry?

• would these entities prove to be something other than sasquatch?

• would the 'mesh' images be bona fide as glimpses to and fro another dimension?

• would mike be invited to go there?

• or would mike decide it was all too much and just walk away?

in the end, this story met the unraveling of the all too mortal coil, leaving us dangling in the wind.
if I was this son-of-a-property owner, I'd be busy developing a good case of paranoia.
in the long run, I've got faith in mike's tenacious desire to break on through to that other side.
and without faith, all we've got is what we've got and no more.
like many, I want more.

and like many SV4ers, I'll remain patient, with faith, as I believe there are new chapters just around the corner.

Frances
2nd June 2015, 15:23
There's quite a lot of my thoughts up there too Jimmer.
I am sticking with it, I want to see where it goes, or maybe like the Tulpa it eventually disappears.
At the moment I am still enjoying it.
Frances.

sandancer
2nd June 2015, 19:02
"would this story outlast me ? "

I'm in this till this flesh and blood shell that I wear gives up then well who knows !!!! :eyebrows:

I'll still be around , I 'll be tapping them on the shoulders ,Mike and the others that know the truth , saying 'come on my friends as Mulder said "the truth is out there"

I'll haunt them , so they can say ghosts exist as well :hilarious::cloud:

jimmer
3rd June 2015, 19:05
I won't even post that attack video here.
glad your embedded url did not take, leaf. :eyebrows:
if you're not familiar with our friendship with mike,
review SV3 and the interview he gave us (both located in the 'priority threads' section)

mike owns the 'sasquatch ontario' name and most of that content.

this son-of-the-property owner is a petulant juvenile.
a real man-child, who through his father, has something special
that people are interested in and he is now exploiting it.
nothing good will come of this turn-of-events. it's called, karma.

while following this story, honor, dignity and trust are important.
these are qualities totally lacking in the character of D. who got himself banned from TOT.

my departing gift to him would be silence, as he launches these attention seeking tantrums.
without attention, the baby always stops crying.

all along we trusted mike and in-turn the person who turned out to be the son of the actual cottage owner.
mike has recently said he and the actual owner respect each other.
it's the neer-do-well son who decided to take-up the reins and attempt to punish mike.

as always, rants get attention, but the truth always wins.

if we don't have worthy content to post, let SV4 go dark.
we'll be here when the time's right.

jimmer
3rd June 2015, 19:16
from may 31

Mike Paterson They seem to think I don't have any right to any of my material.
I've been given underlying threats of legal action and if it comes down to that, I told him straight out that I'll drag media into this.
I won't only drag media into this, I'll drag worldwide attention media wise on this.
If he wants the attention, I'll make sure he gets it.
I'm done playing nice with these people.
I've done nothing wrong and I'm ready to fight this in front of the world if I have to.

Divine Feminine
4th June 2015, 14:08
"Corey describes the very positive role of an Ancient Mayan Space Program that has established colonies in the Pleiades..."

I won't get into this unless I had some grasp of this fellow's credentials and background.
much like accepting bob lazar's testimonies, the witness should go through a vetting
before any of it is digested as sustenance.
I don't mean to be rude, only honest.

that said, I think keel, valleé and now mack had it more right –
it's not out there. it's all around us.

this summer my reading regimen will focus on this subject.
until then, it's all an open book.

I'm so glad to hear someone say this! IMO, there's nothing rude about it, but I understand the need for a disclaimer. I have to believe if people took the time to 'vet' we wouldn't find ourselves to be in so many predicaments as we are today on a larger scale, so your comment is music to my ears. Following the money trail often divulges the real story and if one resists the vetting process, you have to ask yourself why that would be if there's nothing to hide. Further, an organization or person who offers no information for the viewer to search should equally raise suspicions. I'm amazed at how many people are willing 'to follow' others without taking this into consideration as part of their logical reasoning process.

I've enjoyed this thread, and was just getting into the SV3 when you guys switched over to SV4. I was fascinated by the dialogue between Mike and Nephatia(sp?), wow! The Sasquatch audios send chills through my spine as I imagine what it would be like to wake up in the middle of the night deep inside a dark forest to hear that, but in the same token, it's equally intriguing and begs to be explored! I wish I could spend more time participating. Thanks for all the dialogue and though I can't always be involved with the conversation, my heart is with you in spirit as I find the topic mesmerizing and your sharing most interesting.

Now....anyone vetted Nephatia yet? lol....just kidding :hilarious: :hug:

jimmer
4th June 2015, 14:30
DF you've arrived at a point of departure in sasquatch exploration.

this is the time when the hunter-class of 'researcher' has lost out to the 'habituants.' (and they don't like it.)

this is the time when several trusted experiencers/researchers have either died-off or have pulled back due to health issues.

this is the time when human weakness unraveled one of the best chances to figure out the sasquatch conundrum. (mike and nephatia)

that was the time when Sasquatch Ontario melted down. (the explosive feud is on display in the latter days of SV3).

this is the place where we will carry on – always the ready when this never-ending story resumes in full.

so, welcome and check in and contribute when you can. we'll be on it, where and whatever 'it' is.

Divine Feminine
4th June 2015, 14:40
Thanks Jimmer...sure wish I lived nearby some of these forests...if I did, I would try and find the time to do some camping to participate and help out, but not alone! lol... I am sad to hear of the falling out with Mike and the son's land owner. Hopefully the continued interest will elevate others ready and available to the cause in the quest of getting to the truth. I feel your pain...to be so close and watch this unravel is disheartening. Thanks again!

jimmer
4th June 2015, 14:53
Thanks Jimmer...sure wish I lived nearby some of these forests...if I did, I would try and find the time to do some camping to participate and help out, but not alone! lol... I am sad to hear of the falling out with Mike and the son's land owner. Hopefully the continued interest will elevate others ready and available to the cause in the quest of getting to the truth. I feel your pain...to be so close and watch this unravel is disheartening. Thanks again!

over the years, we developed and maintained a trusting relationship with mike.

at the time when mike joined TOT, that's when a perpetual lurker (Dsott/Darryl Strumm/the son) showed his feathers
and came out of the woods to bloody up mike and SV3 with his histrionics.

mike's not a quitter. he'll be back. he's got lots of friends. his story will continue, with time.
he may wage a legal defense. stay tuned...

Frances
4th June 2015, 21:34
M.K. Davis. A link to The Davis Report.

This shows a short stabilised video of The Spartanburg, Pennsylvania, Bigfoot Video. A closer look.

In the centre shot on the left side of the large tree, is what appears to me to be a orb/ light.
The Bigfoot runs very quickly to the tree and the light grows brighter.

https://thedavisreport.wordpress.com/2015/06/04/the-spartanburg-pennsylvania-bigfoot-video-a-close-look/


This is a brief clip from the 2014 Spartanburg Bigfoot video that shows the profile of the individual. Each frame has been deblurred and hand stabilized for maximum clarity.

http://wp.me/p1KEdQ-me
Frances.

jimmer
4th June 2015, 22:42
I watched that earlier and didn't see it.
nice eyes, frances.

here's that enlarged clip posted at a smaller size.
is this sasqautch out and about, taking his orb out for a walk ; )

https://thedavisreport.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/spartanburg-cone-head-animation-between-trees-106-frames-enlarged.gif?w=300&h=297

jimmer
4th June 2015, 23:01
here's the entire clip. It's quite long.

starting at 3:25, the first muffled roar can be heard (I counted at least 3 separate soundings).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPB9gLzT0-8

Frances
5th June 2015, 01:12
I heard the roar Jimmer, M.K. Would not spend the time it takes to take a closer look, if he did not think it was worth it.
Frances.

jimmer
5th June 2015, 02:05
I agree.
when I saw of that video, it had this commentary:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sKjiO8dTW8
after watching the complete clip and picking up those roars, I'd agree with MK: legit.
now that 'commentary' seems utterly smarmy and irrelevant.

jimmer
5th June 2015, 17:41
the internet interview show, where did the road go?, has some great topics led by an bright host.

here's an examination of the dyatlov pass incident.

the theories surrounding the strange deaths of these 9 young people are legend.

let's see what this researcher, keith mccloskey, has to say.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MbOhCacS5c

they slashed their way out of their tents.
was due to something outside or inside those tents?

jimmer
5th June 2015, 18:17
Is Bigfoot real most native Americans say yes he is more animal than human I think. Bigfoot if he is real why has a body of Bigfoot never been found or a live one :confused:

it appears that these beings have either the ability to hyper-camouflage themselves or that they are interdimensional.
the latter may sound incredible, but much of mike paterson's work illustrated that.
it's a shame Sasquatch Ontario isn't available for you to delve into that.

here's another sasquatch experiencer who believes he's caught one of these beings 'appearing.'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7S1htsrC38

lift the veil
5th June 2015, 21:21
it appears that these beings have either the ability to hyper-camouflage themselves or that they are interdimensional.


IMHO they have both abilities. I also think they have the ability to mess with our perception and/or can either project a screen type visual to disguise themselves, maybe into our minds, or into the space around them like a hologram. I remember reading one BFRO report where a family was having ongoing activity around there house. The young daughter was able to "see" the Sasquatch and the mother could not. The girl said, "they can make themselves look like trees."


great video bring infra-red camera next time very hard to hide from that or very expensive ? From what I have read, the Sasquatch can see the infra-red "eye" on cameras and will avoid them.

jimmer
5th June 2015, 23:40
IMHO they have both abilities. I also think they have the ability to mess with our perception and/or can either project a screen type visual to disguise themselves, maybe into our minds, or into the space around them like a hologram. I remember reading one BFRO report where a family was having ongoing activity around there house. The young daughter was able to "see" the Sasquatch and the mother could not. The girl said, "they can make themselves look like trees."

I think MK was skirting around the camouflage thing with his hair analysis. (http://jandeane81.com/threads/7033-Sasquatch-Vocalizations-4-0?p=841926697&viewfull=1#post841926697)

from the YT page:

Scott Carpenter
Great video, could go a long way in explaining the "cloaking" effect I and others have both witnessed with our eyes and captured on video.
I also wonder is this contributes to the "blurring" of photos and videos?
I have experienced it and many others. I will receive a "blobsqautch" photo and the person sending it to me will swear,
"I could see it clearly with the naked eye, but when I took the picture the Bigfoot was all blurry"

jimmer
6th June 2015, 00:19
I almost forgot about this one.
from MK's 'box full of vhs' comes – the hen house raid.

this one gets pretty dramatic.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIJAHmjcouI

jimmer
6th June 2015, 16:10
Indeed the searching for them seems fruitless either they do not exist or they are hiding from you . I believe they exist in our vast world and are hiding in plain sight. Have the government ever done any serious research into them ( Sasquatch )or publish any reports ?

from what I've gathered, it appear that they are masters of concealment.

much of mike paterson's latter work has been with a totally invisible entity, nephatia.
only brief and accidental photo images of sasquatch exist.

and who knows what the government knows.
just so they stay out of the way :eyebrows:

Frances
6th June 2015, 18:00
I enjoyed the weekend matinee Jimmer, yet another new thought and mystery to ponder.
Frances.

jimmer
7th June 2015, 15:09
after lots of prodding from his supporters,
mike has begun a crowd-funding campaign to continue his quest.

"In the latter part of 2012, Mike Paterson met and interviewed individuals in Ontario, Canada
who were claiming to have possible Sasquatch activity on their private family retreat cottage.
Although he had intuitions that there indeed was something unique about this situation,
it only took one informative visit to lead him to make continued, measurable and recorded contact with the Sasquatch..."

visit his gofundme page and pitch-in what you can.

and spread the word.

mike has been a friend and fellow TOTer,
as he's been a SV3/4 participant.
now's our chance to participate.

http://www.gofundme.com/sasquatchontario

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/SO_BANNER2_zpscd6183d6.jpg

jimmer
8th June 2015, 21:40
well, from what I've gathered, at first mike wanted the photo of the century -- full frontal, nothing ambiguous.

later, he realized they would not allow that, but began interacting with him, through gifts and audio.

ultimately, I'm not sure mike knows what his goal is. one thing's for sure, he want in -- into the sasquatch world, come what may.

in our interview with him, we asked: if allowed to enter their interdimensional 'realm,' would he go.
his answer: yes.

other than that, I hear that braised sasquatch goes well with a deep, dry red wine. :eyebrows:

lift the veil
8th June 2015, 22:07
full frontal, nothing ambiguous. Eeew, I hope it is a really hairy squatch, so it is not quite so "full frontal." :vom:


other than that, I hear that braised sasquatch goes well with a deep, dry red wine. :eyebrows: Eeew, reminds me of...," a nice Chianti and some fava beans." Jimmer/Jammer, are you Dr. Lecter? :eek:

Okay, enough with the ,"Eeew." LOL.

jimmer
8th June 2015, 22:47
so, here we have a group of bored millennial pals, who had had it with 'finding bigfoot' and
decided to create their own mockumentary, called, NOT FINDING BIGFOOT.

along the way, they infiltrate the bigfoot elite, including dr. jeff meldrum and his 'bigfoot butt casting'.

well produced, light hearted and fun stuff, with some laugh-out-loud moments.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RR9h2mKMEk#t=167

plus an extended interview with dr. meldrum.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L4dbMvrEU8

Frances
9th June 2015, 13:07
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/Mobile%20Uploads/EC89DFF8-1708-41CC-852F-D53FF8BC0E7B.png_zpssxxwdsfh.jpeg (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/nicolaR1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/EC89DFF8-1708-41CC-852F-D53FF8BC0E7B.png_zpssxxwdsfh.jpeg.html)

Love the T Shirt.

lift the veil
9th June 2015, 14:41
Here is an epic showdown between Dogman and Bigfoot. :rolleyes:

Warning, there is foul language present.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTAK0a9VlPI

jimmer
9th June 2015, 16:05
here's an extended conservation with an ex-lawman and his encounter while camping with friends.

he got a good, long look.
his description is atypical.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdOIS7HFBf8

jimmer
10th June 2015, 18:09
here's a fellow who hasn't been getting much sleep lately.

seems that this nocturnal neighbors are giving him fits.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik11C8np0sI

jimmer
10th June 2015, 18:24
you have to hand it to scott carpenter.

he is unrelenting in his quest.
his eyes are like that of a hawk.

his evidence often requires a trust in the man.

here's a good example. wait for it...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdIw7FOh_Mc

jimmer
11th June 2015, 15:30
mike paterson is in the process of uploading his bountiful cache of video journals to vimeo.

here's his first upload: discussions from another realm.

for we who are experienced in mike's story, this is the time to get reacquainted
and for those who are new to this best case scenario of man / sasquatch contact, enjoy.

this video features one of mike's long give and takes with nephatia,
plus photo evidence of etherial orbs crowding his tent area.


https://vimeo.com/130427646

jimmer
11th June 2015, 16:04
if bigfoot is real and wasn't to be left well enough alone avoid humans should we not honour his wishes

: Sherlock:

I believe there are a couple of sentient species of sasquatch: some are more intelligent, others are more primal.

over the millennia, the two have blended into a hybrid, combining both traits.

in the forest, one never knows which type will be encountered.

some are more curious of we humans and are more apt to communing.

that's where I'm at today.

mojo
11th June 2015, 23:12
That's an interesting hypothesis. Do you think the yeti is one of the type? I was thinking about the group of Russian hikers that were killed. There was an image years later showing a yeti. Do you recall that image? The hikers were followed when they entered the yetis territory and the villagers warned them. Maybe this helps validate your hypothesis jimmer? This one was primal...

jimmer
12th June 2015, 14:08
That's an interesting hypothesis. Do you think the yeti is one of the type? I was thinking about the group of Russian hikers that were killed. There was an image years later showing a yeti. Do you recall that image? The hikers were followed when they entered the yetis territory and the villagers warned them. Maybe this helps validate your hypothesis jimmer? This one was primal...


you mean, this image found on a deceased student camera?

http://www.historyandheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Russianbigfoot.jpg

a physical attack of some sort seems likely.
the only clue that doesn't fit that scenario is that
several of the deceased exhibited a strange
orange/blackened skin color deformation, as if irradiated or chemically doused.
several of the student's clothing had high levels of radiation.
none of that can be simply explained by 'exposure'.

as for the yeti theory. everything in our realm is a balance of light and dark,
good and bad, positive and negative.

are there primal, territorial sasquatch that could have felt imposed
or threatened by the students?
much like we mortals, I would presume the answer is, yes.

if a 'cause of death' was easily figured out,
this mystery would have been solved generations ago. :eyebrows:

and what about this final image found on one of the cameras?

https://thecloakedhedgehog.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/dyatloff_group_poxod_arhiv_alerseya_koskina_51.jpg ?w=580&h=375

the mystery continues...

jimmer
12th June 2015, 15:52
from mike paterson's facebook page:

seems that mike's vimeo uploads are being attacked by the childish ones.

I presume that D's gal pal is the one mentioned in this vimeo notice of copyright infringement.

mike is weighing whether to contact a lawyer.

https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11048740_489531007872539_5917924209074912622_n.jpg ?oh=3a1815f2d85ca5ae2393cd4f0537766d&oe=55F3C07B

jimmer
14th June 2015, 17:19
from the SV3 archives:

turn down the lights and snuggle up to your speakers for the strange disappearance of dennis lloyd martin.

not only is this story so well told, it's one of the oddest missing cases ever documented.

after listening ask yourself, was it man or something else?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDTIXJjZoI

jimmer
14th June 2015, 18:16
more strange cases of missing persons, you ask?

here's micah hanks interview of the 'other' missing cases ex-cop, butch witkowski.
(turns out that butch is the director of UFO research center of pennsylvania)

asked what he thinks is behind this strangeness,
this intelligent, no-nonesense guy, breaks it down to three possibilities:

- portal snatching

- gov't black ops

- 'space brethren'

when pressed, butch thinks it's the last option.
when asked why, he relates a chilling tale that sounds more 'trickster' than 'alien'.


here's the YT link to that interview.

https://youtu.be/IVezSuqK9kc?t=1h2m58s

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xGDgk8SCh2c/VKxT-XKoFYI/AAAAAAAAASc/8nzIWJcMh8U/s1600/Creature.jpg

witness rendering of large humanoid 'with snout'.

jimmer
16th June 2015, 19:18
since we're on a bit of a hiatus of sorts, I thought I'd post
this video of sasquatch researcher, mark parra and his 'big' find.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htGcs3v0ZWU

sandancer
16th June 2015, 19:26
I have just found on youtube 3 videos posted under Sasquatch Ontario , made by the owners son I presume !!

The first one "Sasquatch Ontario the true story " supposedly tells "what really happened " .

Sadly in the description underneath it mentions , comments posted on The One Truth forum !!

These people really have no morals or integrity .

Unsurprisingly they have disabled comments I wonder why ????

jimmer
16th June 2015, 19:40
I have just found on youtube 3 videos posted under Sasquatch Ontario , made by the owners son I presume !!

The first one "Sasquatch Ontario the true story " supposedly tells "what really happened " .

Sadly in the description underneath it mentions , comments posted on The One Truth forum !!

These people really have no morals or integrity .

Unsurprisingly they have disabled comments I wonder why ????

hi sandancer. yes I saw that as well.

real childish behavior.

their only hook is they have sasquatch on their property.

to me, they are unworthy of any attention.

and as far as trusting their accounting of events, I'd trust them as far as I could throw them.
(which couldn't be too far, as they are real loads : )

jimmer
16th June 2015, 21:09
here's always room for JC Johnson.

after you get through the lengthy introduction, it's pure JC.

lots of juicy crypto tales from the dry, mysterious southwest.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frSHe_K7kmY

jimmer
17th June 2015, 14:31
I was nicely surprised to see that mike is in the process of reestablishing
his 'sasquatch ontario' youtube channel.

one of the first re-established video journals is: may 10th audio comparisons.
when this first was released, it launched the first gen of this thread.

click through to YT and subscribe to his 'new' channel and drop mike a note, when you can.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sbs_ekXMQM

lift the veil
17th June 2015, 15:46
hi sandancer. yes I saw that as well.

real childish behavior.

their only hook is they have sasquatch on their property.

to me, they are unworthy of any attention.

and as far as trusting their accounting of events, I'd trust them as far as I could throw them.
(which couldn't be too far, as they are real loads : )

Did you see the other image of the "white faced" individual at 4:11 on the video that Sandancer mentioned?

jimmer
17th June 2015, 17:02
okay, this is getting increasingly strange.

there are now 3 identically titled sasquatch ontario youtube sites.

mike's original YT site has been activated again, days after he launched the reconstituted SO (posted above).
and as we know, the owner and crew have literally stolen mike's title as their own.

something has got to give.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MANASOOCAN/featured

sandancer
17th June 2015, 18:08
Ok, so now I'm officially confused (don't take much these days ) :ok:

Can the son and co. use Sasquatch Ontario as a title , I thought it was Mikes channel ?

Great to have Mike back , he was never going to lie down and hope it would all go away :rock:

I'm going to take the chance to see those videos again just in case they vanish AGAIN :popc:

Might have to have my own lie down first ;)

jimmer
17th June 2015, 18:19
Can the son and co. use Sasquatch Ontario as a title , I thought it was Mikes channel ?

that, is the $64000 question.

seems like a no-brainer, but try and get an answer from the elusive YT.

one things clear: none of this makes sense.

enjoy your SO stroll : )

jimmer
19th June 2015, 18:53
this one requires SV4 to awaken.

JC Johnson and Dr. Christopher interview a woman
who witnessed three sasquatch from a distance of 8 feet.

to my recollection, this is also the first witness accounting
of sasquatch befriending a dog.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C3Oj9BI_bo

here's an article about this encounter. (http://www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2015/06/bigfoot-habituation-close-encounter.html)

lift the veil
19th June 2015, 22:20
Great interview find Jimmer. Wow, a 12 and a 10 footer :shocked: at only 8 feet away. That must have been quite the experience for that young lady. And the squatches bring her doggie bones. How sweet. :love:

jimmer
20th June 2015, 01:06
Great interview find Jimmer. Wow, a 12 and a 10 footer :shocked: at only 8 feet away. That must have been quite the experience for that young lady. And the squatches bring her doggie bones. How sweet. :love:

that doggie must have been freaked out at first.

chained up, no place to go as the sasquatch first approached.

my belief that sasquatch generally don't like or trust domestic dogs has changed.
absolutely incredible.

wish JC would catch up a bit more. this june posting was from a january interview : (

lift the veil
28th June 2015, 18:15
Just posted on CRYPTO FOUR CORNERS facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/CRYPTO-FOUR-CORNERS/121397757888539?fref=nf


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmRqsphjhaM&feature=share

jimmer
28th June 2015, 23:10
excellent find, LTV.

JC's description of the rites of a skinwalker inductee is riveting. (20:30 mark)
his matter-of-factness is wild.
he's learned from the expert, chief dan.

quite a conversation.

lift the veil
28th June 2015, 23:27
Here, Dave Schrader of Darkness Radio interviews Shel Dion regarding her bigfoot and dogman encounters. She has some interesting insights from her experiences. She had a Sasquatch habituation going on until the dogmen moved in, then the Sasquatch moved out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y59mUmTtsXo

lift the veil
29th June 2015, 18:59
Not sure if this is new, was just posted yesterday on Youtube, however it might be from 10/26/2014 per Coast to Coast website. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2014/10/26

Anyway, George Knapp interviews JC Johnson re. cryptids.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrddcLaaxts

Jimmer - If this is a re-post let me know and I will have the mods. delete it. :eyebrows:

jimmer
29th June 2015, 19:05
you're on fire, LTV!

should be a good one.

jimmer
30th June 2015, 16:31
just to cover all the bases:

a year or so ago, an indie, short film was released.

meet, eve. (I hear she's summer fresh ; )

besides the shakey acting, absence of a storyline and the rote depiction of a sasquatch, not bad :eyebrows:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLBJ9603_gw

Divine Feminine
7th July 2015, 15:32
Hey did you guys hear? I was falling asleep last night listening to Coast to Coast and they had Mitchel Townsend on sharing amazing news at what he discovered on Mt. St. Helens in WA state. Check it out!

FORENSIC EVIDENCE OF A NEW HOMININ SPECIES

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/pages/forensic-evidence-new-hominin-species

jimmer
7th July 2015, 16:13
thanks for that DM.

when the show is available, keep everyone informed.

would love to hear mitchel discuss his find accompanied by his evidence.

oh, look what I found...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbpBie5Vg8w

jimmer
7th July 2015, 16:44
here's the full white paper. (https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=25BBCABF2DE517FF!108&ithint=file%2cpdf&app=WordPdf&authkey=!AOLzbmAVbvcVkIM)

more illustrations and photo evidence.

Divine Feminine
7th July 2015, 18:25
Hi Jimmer,

I was hoping you guys would be excited about this.....You're the first person I thought of when I heard the news. If I hadn't been so tired I would have jumped outta bed and posted last night. I think this is a big deal especially for the researcher who knows what they're discovering isn't bunk. Is it a stretch to wonder if this scientific acknowledgement might bring funding more easily to those out in the field?

jimmer
7th July 2015, 18:45
Is it a stretch to wonder if this scientific acknowledgement might bring funding more easily to those out in the field?

that's a great question, DM.

although, while mitchel found hard evidence, the actual search for sasquatch is so elusive.

throughout history, every expedition to 'find sasquatch' ends up with bupkis.
a vocal here and there. maybe a footprint, but not much else.
any sightings are pure luck or simply chance.
it's up to the sasquatch to be found and known.
a relationship must be established before anything meaningful is revealed. (incredibly rare)

wonder what the DNA will uncover?

thanks for the great find and posting.

Divine Feminine
7th July 2015, 19:01
that's a great question, DM.

although, while mitchel found hard evidence, the actual search for sasquatch is so elusive.

throughout history, every expedition to 'find sasquatch' ends up with bupkis.
a vocal here and there. maybe a footprint, but not much else.
any sightings are pure luck or simply chance.
it's up to the sasquatch to be found and known.
a relationship must be established before anything meaningful is revealed. (incredibly rare)

wonder what the DNA will uncover?

thanks for the great find and posting.

I find the timing of this very interesting....with everything going on...what am I trying to say here...it 'feels' like we're getting closer and closer to disclosure and it makes me wonder if discovering 'Sas' is a small part of the puzzle, so this scientific discovery has us moving in the right direction and the timing of it all falls into place with all the changes taking place before our eyes. God I hope I'm making sense....I'm at a loss for words cause I'm short on time and I'm trying to scramble to get one more post in before I have to leave.

The DNA should be quite interesting yes! Let's hope they don't start making clones with the info...sigh...I'm sure someone is already starting to think that way.

Frances
7th July 2015, 19:37
Forensic Dental Science.
I hope Mike Paterson still has the apple in the freezer, the one showing the teeth marks, where a large chunk was bitten out.
I don't think I have the photo, but it was clearly shown in one of his videos.
Frances.

lift the veil
9th July 2015, 17:34
This guy captured some interesting light anomalies (orbs, streaking orbs?, columns of light, daylight photos anomalously darkened) right at the time that fruit/bait disappeared from bags suspended from trees. The columns of light remind me of Star Trek, "Beam me up Scotty." Is there a Sasquatch in a control room somewhere, monitoring his Away Team, waiting for the order to activate the transporter and beam them back to their base of operations??? :eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJpzH42bc8E

If you have the time, here is the lead-up to the "evidence" video. (I personally would never use a spirit board.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E6ZXL2zpZY

samos
10th July 2015, 03:53
Hi LTV,

I was waiting for someone to post this. It really says it all.
For me, this is a clear representation of how different forms of paranormal activity are linked…like it or not.

Trail cams do work, if you know how to interpret the images. Triangulation, a little common sense, and some luck,
and…whamooo! Ahh, those lovable tricksters. ; )

samos
10th July 2015, 11:31
Fellow SV4’ers.

My time at TOT and the Sasquatch Vocalization threads has come to an end. I wish each and every one of you a hearty farewell and consider it a privilege to have been a part of the SV4 family. We’ve moved the story forward, to which we should all be proud of. Being a member of this research team has left me with a certain indelible conclusion that I will sum up as follows…

Take it from Ol’ Samos…THERE–BE–GIANTS !! And their names are (in no particular order) Frances, Sandancer, Jeff, T.T., Jimmer, Lift The Veil, Mojo, Norvegicus and our old pals, Tony and Spiral who are missed…and the list goes on. Your collective knowledge of facts in this field is unrivaled

Please enjoy this fitting end to my departure. Thank you, It has been a great ride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giCsv_aOoZU&feature=youtu.be&t=3m20s
So long, Friends













Ah hemm, oh yes, one last thing before I go...

The Sasquatch Vocalizations 4.0 thread has its roots deep in the halls of TOT. This signature Vocalization thread (or Vocalisation… for you in The Land of the Rose ; ) is the conception and compassion of our own Captain Jimmer. Impressively gaining in excess of 150,000 views, the SV threads have been a staple of The One Truth. As the amazing story of Sasquatch continues, so shall the SV4 thread. (We’ll be here when the time’s right: Quote, jimmer)






I would like to award jimmer, this original Sasquatch Vocalizations 4.0 medal of distinction.



http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/scroll2_zpswcousic0.jpg





With Love, Samos ; )

Frances
10th July 2015, 12:42
Wow Samos, I love your posts and Jimmer's well earned medal of distinction.

Good of you to come back, even though you are going.
We will bump into each other again, as the paranormal research goes hand in hand with the Sasquatch research.

Looking forward to the future and a new kind of research which can bring it all together.
Time for change, well, there's nothing wrong with that.
Glad you were here.
Frances.

sandancer
10th July 2015, 13:58
THERE-BE-GIANTS !!!

Oh yes samos , and your name must go out there also :congratulations:

I have always enjoyed your posts and will miss your insight and humour :hilarious:

As we march onwards to who knows what , where , why , when, the S.O4 thread will always be there for others to follow .

As FRances said "Glad you were here " you will be missed . Take care my friend , and peace love blessings and light to you and those you love :hugs::chrs::tiphat:

jimmer
10th July 2015, 14:27
ah hum, that's epic and all, samos, but a bit of explanation is in order, ol' friend.

have you departed the subject in its entirety, just bored, lifestyle change or is it that you are planning on dropping your internet connection? ; )

and to think, today, I'm fasting for a blood test. ugh.



in return, here's one for you, our friend:

bestowed to ol' samos, as much for your curiosity, tenacity and intelligence, as for your camaraderie.

the land of the sasquatch is as endless as is our gratitude for your many contributions.

we all wish you the very best, where ever you may roam.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/SV4MOD6_sm_zpsktvgzhdp.jpg

lift the veil
10th July 2015, 16:06
Sad to hear you are leaving, Samos.

Is that a marble in the weave at the bottom of that SV4 medal???

Best wishes to you. LTV.

jimmer
10th July 2015, 16:51
and did we get his link to the 'departing vocalization' of nephie.

very nice.

but I reject samos' formal departure,
as we will leave the SV4 door wide open for a visit or two, when the time seems right.

it's quiet now in the sasquatch community.

me thinks we'll awaken again with roars from the west.

stay tuned.

jimmer
10th July 2015, 17:29
This guy captured some interesting light anomalies (orbs, streaking orbs?, columns of light, daylight photos anomalously darkened) right at the time that fruit/bait disappeared from bags suspended from trees. The columns of light remind me of Star Trek, "Beam me up Scotty." Is there a Sasquatch in a control room somewhere, monitoring his Away Team, waiting for the order to activate the transporter and beam them back to their base of operations??? :eyebrows::eyebrows::eyebrows:


I watched this a while ago and didn't know what to make of it.

certainly he has landed on the paranormal conclusion.
considering this fellows 'hunter' origins, current beliefs are breathtaking.

reminds me of what rick dakotah found on his trail cam.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95FyzW52NkM&feature=youtu.be&t=3m35s


as for him using a weegee board to find the answers. beware.

he believes his 'contact' to be genuine. that can be a big boo-boo.

"Hello, Aunt Myrtle. Is that you? Are you there?"

"Yes, deary, I'm here for you."

the dark, scaly beast smirked as he pondered his next reply.

fact is, there's no telling who or what can come through, for they are the trickster.

mojo
10th July 2015, 20:24
Did you happen to listen to coast to coast last night. There was a Florida cryptid researcher on the second half whom witnessed a skunk ape 3 times. I was curious when George asked him what he thought Bigfoot was. He said there about 4-5 different types of bigfoot. That was a surprise, but both he and George could not get past the so called magical aspects of Bigfoot that Mike has been sharing all these seasons. I dont understand how they can overlook his research, it boggles my mind...

jimmer
11th July 2015, 15:37
Did you happen to listen to coast to coast last night. There was a Florida cryptid researcher on the second half whom witnessed a skunk ape 3 times. I was curious when George asked him what he thought Bigfoot was. He said there about 4-5 different types of bigfoot. That was a surprise, but both he and George could not get past the so called magical aspects of Bigfoot that Mike has been sharing all these seasons. I dont understand how they can overlook his research, it boggles my mind...

last year, before the show's meltdown, I contacted art bell's producer, keith rolland.
I sent him a link to one of mike's videos and asked that he recommend him for an interview.
after some give and take, keith concluded that mike was a hoaxer.
I asked why, while defending mike's work.
keith just didn't buy it and that mike wouldn't make it to art's show.

my take why?
mike's findings are so pure, powerful and crazy, that many just can't bring themselves to believe.
in keith's case, so many nut cases throw themselves at art, that he's developed a thick case of disbelief.
I presume the same goes for C2C..
for mike to make the national show circuit, he'll need to establish his bona fides and reputation elsewhere.

in the sasquatch community, many can't bring themselves to admit they cant' compare to mike's rapid ascension and bold evidence.
short: envy poisons. (that son of the owner is a good example)

sad, but true. mike know's all this.
I guarantee, he's hustling on SO2.

here's that segment of C2C, mojo mentioned. (https://youtu.be/C4bds4ewcMg?t=1h16m)

jimmer
12th July 2015, 20:52
here's something to chew on:

christopher noel, waiting for that 'find footage' close-up,
has been doing some reading.

inspired by a book on autism, he now believes that sasquatch may be savants.

see what you think.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA_a8LFdBmo

whether we agree or not, at least there's some thinking going on.
although, others have previously mentioned this 'mental' sas theory.

Frances
12th July 2015, 22:50
I can understand the feeling of chaos that the Sasquatch undergo when their home is invaded by unwanted humans.
I would feel the same way if unwanted people came into my home, I would feel a need to do some sort of clearing of their energy.

I enjoyed Christopher Noel's video and theory.
Frances.

mojo
12th July 2015, 22:52
Thanks jimmer. There seems to be an interesting similarity with my contact, not that I'm putting my own story as elevated to Mikes. Just that nobody in the higher levels of media or name branding has reached out to ask for more info.

lift the veil
12th July 2015, 23:14
John Allen has a new blog entry here http://myladyofthewoods.blogspot.com/2015/07/coming-back-to-balance.html

jimmer
12th July 2015, 23:17
Thanks jimmer. There seems to be an interesting similarity with my contact, not that I'm putting my own story as elevated to Mikes. Just that nobody in the higher levels of media or name branding has reached out to ask for more info.

you may need a publicist. :eyebrows:

mojo
13th July 2015, 01:26
Your an excellent writer after reading the material you sent me. A collaboration with you would be awesome...

Frances
13th July 2015, 01:35
I wonder if "The Milk Wagon" would feature in the title. Haha.
Frances.

mojo
13th July 2015, 07:32
most definitely...;)

jimmer
13th July 2015, 13:53
Your an excellent writer after reading the material you sent me. A collaboration with you would be awesome...

no, no, I meant an 'agent.' as in PR.

jimmer
18th July 2015, 18:03
it's déjà vu all over again at SV4.

the YouTube channel, Sasquatch Ontario, is back online.

click this link to review it for the first time or to revisit your favorites, while they lasts. (https://www.youtube.com/user/MANASOOCAN/videos)

says mike, "It's a good end to a friday to see that back up."

here's one of my many favs. mike's best always seem like out-of-whack natgeo specials : )
click on the youtube logo to watch this large.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e8kci3De6k

jimmer
18th July 2015, 18:29
david paulides is taking his missing 411 stories to the movies.

take a look at his fund raising kickstarter campaign to see if you'd like to participate.

click this link to watch the trailer. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1032329905/missing-411-the-movie)

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DLKauzDGnN0/hqdefault.jpg

jimmer
20th July 2015, 14:13
check out this digital image from mike's FB page.

he didn't sent it...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=507123936113246&set=a.114657972026513.22679.100004469310755&type=1&theater

lift the veil
20th July 2015, 14:17
through an insightful host and his prodding, this is one of the best david paulides interviews, evah.

2 parts:
the 1st, his bigfoot research conclusions (worth ever second)
the 2nd, more about missing 411 (found @ YT)

Awesome interview find Jimmer. That is the first Paulides interview I have heard where he talked about bigfoot rather than the 411 missing cases. It was very eye opening. Thanks!

I am off now to listen to the part 2 on Youtube.

jimmer
20th July 2015, 14:25
That is the first Paulides interview I have heard where he talked about bigfoot rather than the 411 missing cases.

he figured it out for himself and then moved on.

he didn't bilk it.

this 411 movie could be a big breakthrough.
looks pro.

lift the veil
21st July 2015, 17:36
Just posted on Crypto-Four-Corners facebook page here https://www.facebook.com/pages/CRYPTO-FOUR-CORNERS/121397757888539


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcRekRxamdU

jimmer
21st July 2015, 17:51
good eyes, LTV.

can't wait to dig in.

jimmer
21st July 2015, 19:51
yes, paulides is the real deal.

if anyone can turn up the truth of these strange, sad, disturbing disappearances, it's him.

I bet the film will be riveting. It looks as if they're re-enacting some of the cases.
as I read the 'western states' missing book, I had to take it slow.
the stories are that sad and incomprehensible.

lift the veil
21st July 2015, 21:51
More J. C.. You never know what new nuggets of info may be present.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZc9FkDJur0

Divine Feminine
22nd July 2015, 04:39
yes, paulides is the real deal.

if anyone can turn up the truth of these strange, sad, disturbing disappearances, it's him.

I bet the film will be riveting. It looks as if they're re-enacting some of the cases.
as I read the 'western states' missing book, I had to take it slow.
the stories are that sad and incomprehensible.

So I just listened to the C2C interview...wow..is all I can say. How do you not get creeped out? What was really interesting was the female caller describing something that happened to her in one of the same forests where one of these disappearances had occurred. She described it being like a vortex and she said it was weird, there was no sound. David seemed to like what she was saying as it was matching similar stories he had heard. It feels like they're getting real close to figuring out what's going on...I don't know why...I think it's because so many people are now watching, and at some point, who or whatever is doing it, is going to slip up and/or be seen. The government definitely knows what's going on, it's so obvious in their lack of cooperation...and that FBI agent who had been on the cases for 30 years committing suicide.....

I can tell David is an excellent researcher and I think it's why I enjoy listening to him though there's no joy in the topic itself....all those who have lost someone without knowing what happened....I can't imagine what that must be like.

jimmer
22nd July 2015, 14:19
The government definitely knows what's going on, it's so obvious in their lack of cooperation...and that FBI agent who had been on the cases for 30 years committing suicide.....

governments tend to avoid or dismiss what they can not control.
like the ufo topic, they know its going on, can not control it, and avoid the 'missing' topic all together.

as for finally figuring it out?
that could be a long time.
unless the primary cause is sentient, good luck on ever knowing the source.

many don't like the use of 'psychics,' but that's where I'd go to unwrap this conundrum.
paulides has used them sparingly, with some results.
working with a team of bona fide remote viewers could provide more leads.

I'm looking forward to listen to the C2C show today...

lift the veil
22nd July 2015, 15:41
Here is the description that Sam has for the following video: Here is another one of our forest friends who hangs out on the side of the hill. We hear stick breaks on this hill and this small one may be one of the culprits doing it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aV8beomShM

lift the veil
22nd July 2015, 18:19
So I just listened to the C2C interview...wow..is all I can say. How do you not get creeped out? What was really interesting was the female caller describing something that happened to her in one of the same forests where one of these disappearances had occurred. She described it being like a vortex and she said it was weird, there was no sound. David seemed to like what she was saying as it was matching similar stories he had heard. It feels like they're getting real close to figuring out what's going on...I don't know why...I think it's because so many people are now watching, and at some point, who or whatever is doing it, is going to slip up and/or be seen. The government definitely knows what's going on, it's so obvious in their lack of cooperation...and that FBI agent who had been on the cases for 30 years committing suicide.....

I can tell David is an excellent researcher and I think it's why I enjoy listening to him though there's no joy in the topic itself....all those who have lost someone without knowing what happened....I can't imagine what that must be like.

What is the deal with these people turning up dead missing their shoes???

The portal thing is a definite possibility in my opinion.

The portal and shoes thing made me think of an abductee/contactee who has had experiences since her early years. In interviews about her experiences, she talks about how she was led by grays into a small disc like ship that was in her back yard. After she went into this ship she was led down corridors that led to an earthen tunnel that opened up into a strange bizarre world. She does not mention leaving the ship. Her pathway just gradually changed from UFO to earthen tunnel to an open landscape. She was on a pathway that was moving, like a conveyor belt while she was viewing this strange landscape. At one point she was told to take off her shoes and was instructed to put on some strange platform like sandals. So in my opinion the ship was not really a ship but a portal instead. Maybe it is just a "portal machine" that allows them to access other dimensions/realms, rather than a nuts and bolts machine used to physically move someone from point A to point B.

But she has never been "harmed" during her interactions with these ETs, much less ended up dead without her shoes on. Just some strange similarities, with the portal type transport and having to take off her shoes.

jimmer
22nd July 2015, 18:39
this is unique in all of paulides cases: the missing phoned home.

one of the 'western missing 411' cases had to do with an outdoors guy who,
while on a row boat, calls his wife to report that 2 darkened figures were following him along the shoreline.
his wife became distressed, then the call ended.
his next call was him freaking out, announcing that he was burning up with heat.
he felt like he was on fire. he was in the process of removing all his clothes and then the line went dead.
he never called back. he was never found. (as I recall)

missing clothing, removing boots in heavy snow.
something to do with a burning heat.

Divine Feminine
24th July 2015, 22:23
governments tend to avoid or dismiss what they can not control.
like the ufo topic, they know its going on, can not control it, and avoid the 'missing' topic all together.

as for finally figuring it out?
that could be a long time.
unless the primary cause is sentient, good luck on ever knowing the source.

many don't like the use of 'psychics,' but that's where I'd go to unwrap this conundrum.
paulides has used them sparingly, with some results.
working with a team of bona fide remote viewers could provide more leads.

I'm looking forward to listen to the C2C show today...

Hey Jimmer, I'm glad you mentioned his use of pyschics, I was going to ask...in fact I thought about emailing David and suggesting he seeks the service of an Akashic Record reader to find out if they can understand what happened to some of these people. The reader doesn't always like giving out information on the person unless you have a close connection to them, so it might be beneficial if he has some of the family members present during the time of the reading. They will know if the reading can be given serious consideration by what's revealed, as specific things will be said which were never told to the person doing the reading and that's how David can decipher whether he's getting solid information.


What is the deal with these people turning up dead missing their shoes???

The portal thing is a definite possibility in my opinion.

The portal and shoes thing made me think of an abductee/contactee who has had experiences since her early years. In interviews about her experiences, she talks about how she was led by grays into a small disc like ship that was in her back yard. After she went into this ship she was led down corridors that led to an earthen tunnel that opened up into a strange bizarre world. She does not mention leaving the ship. Her pathway just gradually changed from UFO to earthen tunnel to an open landscape. She was on a pathway that was moving, like a conveyor belt while she was viewing this strange landscape. At one point she was told to take off her shoes and was instructed to put on some strange platform like sandals. So in my opinion the ship was not really a ship but a portal instead. Maybe it is just a "portal machine" that allows them to access other dimensions/realms, rather than a nuts and bolts machine used to physically move someone from point A to point B.

But she has never been "harmed" during her interactions with these ETs, much less ended up dead without her shoes on. Just some strange similarities, with the portal type transport and having to take off her shoes.

The missing shoes is weird! The Charles McCullar case at Crater Lake always creeped me out. I think I heard about this one some time last year when I first came across David's work. Check this out:

"Some sixty-four years later another photographer, Charles McCullar, also disappeared during harsh February storms. Searches turned up no trace of the young man despite the help of the FBI and Charles’ distraught father, who poured his heart and soul into the search.

A year later, in 1976, two hikers saw what they thought was a skeleton down a box canyon in a remote area of the park—more than 12 miles from where Charles had been taking pictures along the Rim. Twelve-foot drifts of snow were reported during the time of McCullar’s disappearance, with 102 inches of fresh snowfall covering the ground all over the park. For an ill-equipped person to make it twelve miles in these conditions is unfathomable. Keep that in mind, because this gets weird.

The hikers brought a tattered backpack and a few other items they found into the park’s ranger station. Rummaging through the pack, rangers immediately identified a distinctive Volkswagen key they knew belonged to McCullar. They mounted horses and rode to the obscure canyon, hardly suspecting the eerie scene that awaited them.

What they found was so surreal that one thirty-year ranger described it as the strangest thing he had ever seen. It appeared as though Charles had “melted” right into his jeans while sitting on a log. His pants hadn’t been disturbed by animals or removed before his death. There were socks in his jeans and there were toe bones in the socks, but these ended with a bit of broken tibia. The rest of Charles was mysteriously absent from the site of his demise. A thorough search of the lonesome canyon turned up tiny bone fragments and the crown of his skull about twelve feet away. That was all they ever found of Charles McCullar.

To add more weirdness to this already ghastly scene, Charles’ jeans were unbuttoned and his belt undone. No shirt or coat was ever found, and most perplexing of all the rangers couldn’t find his boots. Rangers say they always find the boots! They are essential for traveling in the woods, animals don’t take them, and they can last for a century.

So the mystery is this: how did Charles manage to traverse twelve miles in eight and a half feet of fresh snow without clothes or equipment? Why did he undress himself? And, most importantly, where were his remains?"

Rest of article here: http://weekinweird.com/2013/03/14/creepy-crater-lake-legends-lost-gold-history-mystery/

jimmer
24th July 2015, 22:48
ooow, lots of food for thought there, DF.
which book is the mcCullar story found in?
in the 'western' edition, a similar tale with only a disjointed tibia bone found in crumpled, unbuckled pants.
haunting.

it's got to be paranormal, don't you think?

as for paulides and psychics, I'm not sure he wants to go there.

he's really cautious with that subject.

he's says he's afraid it would hurt his credibility with missing families and all.

nonetheless, eventually, some day, when all is lost and we all remain confused, he should succumb and dig in to it.

we'll see if and when he pulls the trigger.

(I re-read my previous post on his use of psychics. in hindsight, I believe he was
reporting of a past, independent psychic's work with local authorities.
I don't believe he personally uses them. sorry 'bout that.)

Divine Feminine
24th July 2015, 23:03
Yes I understand. If I were him I'd just do it, and not publicly announce it. If possible from there I'd work around the information given as best as possible and look for ways to validate without eluding to where the clue was given.

I'm not sure if the McCullar case is in his book or not, I just remember him talking about it in an interview on Coast to Coast some time last year. I did a search to see if I could pull it up and that's where I found the article I posted. It does seem like something paranormal as what's happening seems to defy all logic.

If I come across it, I'll post.

Divine Feminine
24th July 2015, 23:24
Found it! I thought it was last year but I just happened to be listening to an old interview right now from an earlier interview this year with George Knapp on C2C and he mentions it beginning around the 1:28:00 mark. David may have discussed this particular case in other interviews and that might be what I'm remembering because I thought I remembered more details than what is shared in this particular interview.....


http://allnewspipeline.com/Chilling_new_Patterns_Vanishing.php

jimmer
24th July 2015, 23:56
nice digging, DM.

yes, that's the same 'tibia' case I was referring to.

says knapp, 'it's as if they're messing with us... messing with our minds.'

I wonder what it's like being david paulides?

how are his dreams?

Divine Feminine
25th July 2015, 00:45
I've thought that too. He's said 99% of the time he never goes into the forest alone. I thought it was interesting his son goes with him! He must be older...But he said he always carries three main components, a gun, a satellite phone and and a gps tracking system.

Rebel&Rocket
25th July 2015, 05:28
I've been following you guys and your discussion here. I started looking at David's stuff this week. A couple of the spots in the Sierras are really close to me - and we're about 30 miles away from Yosemite. I know there have been several Sasquatch sitings in the Sierras near us, so of course that's the first thought. But these last couple of cases - that interview, DF, so brings up thoughts of some kind of really creepy weapons testing. Makes me wonder what or who the "dark figures" were. I'm sure they've tested the remains that have been found for radiation, right? Although, it seems that those tests have mostly been tampered with or intentionally incomplete.

Divine Feminine
25th July 2015, 05:58
Ya, I'm more of the belief our government is behind the disappearances of these people. It would be ideal for them to test their weaponery within National Parks. Didn't we hand over our parks to the United Nations? I'm pretty sure we did...gotta look that up again..The reason I mention this is because the land falls under a different set of laws..it's exactly what's taken place within Indian territory. Which means they can do whatever they want without any repercussions.

Next time I go camping or hiking within the forest I might have to make my husband wear this, lmao:
http://www.amazon.com/Mommys-Helper-Kid-Keeper-Count/dp/B00081L2SU/ref=zg_bs_2237486011_5

EDIT TO ADD: Yep, looks like we did, check it out, World Heritage Treaty 1972:

http://www.infowars.com/united-nations-biosphere-reserve-land-grabs/

What seals the deal is the NDAA(National Defense Authorization Act) signed into law on Dec. 31, 2011 which eliminated all of your personal rights, which is why David Paulides will continue to hit brick walls as will the poor families trying to find information on their loved ones. It's also a part of Agenda 21, with the point being to get people off of the land.

Hmmm, I'm wondering if David is aware of this...?

Divine Feminine
25th July 2015, 06:57
Meanwhile...still no trace of the child who recently went missing near Salmon, Idaho. Quite the bland article with no clues as to what's going on behind the scenes:
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/idaho/2015/07/24/toddler-search-hits-two-weeks-still-no-trace/30624055/

jimmer
25th July 2015, 16:18
I've thought that too. He's said 99% of the time he never goes into the forest alone. I thought it was interesting his son goes with him! He must be older...But he said he always carries three main components, a gun, a satellite phone and and a gps tracking system.

his son was a film major and is involved in the 411 film.
could even be the director. possibly it's producer.

jimmer
25th July 2015, 16:39
Meanwhile...still no trace of the child who recently went missing near Salmon, Idaho. Quite the bland article with no clues as to what's going on behind the scenes:
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/idaho/2015/07/24/toddler-search-hits-two-weeks-still-no-trace/30624055/

and the hits just keep on coming.

for older cases, many times, paulides' only resource is newspapers.
like your linked article, there's just not much to go on.

as for a covert government program, do you guys have any evidence or are you speculating?
I'd be really interested to learn, if there are gov't involvement leads.

as for the gov't refusing to document the missing cases, paulides believes it's probably the 'jaws mayor' effect.
the parks just don't want to scare the tourists and money off.
it's something they don't understand, can't control -- so they look away.

what is going on with these true 411 cases?
my gut leads me to something beyond our understanding.
we can see the residue, but may never fully uncover its source.

paulides must be stumped.
if you listen to part 1 of that two part paulides interview (posted awhile back),
he stopped his sasquatch research because he solved it, at least for himself.
when you listen to him discuss 411, you can hear the stain and confusion in his voice.
he may never come to the bottom of it using conventional investigative techniques.

for now, as he reports, he seems officially stumped, awaiting a breakthrough.

Divine Feminine
26th July 2015, 00:02
Jimmer I'm just speculating. I mean think about it, 'they' don't follow any rules but their own. Isn't Dulce on Indian territory? Look at what goes on there...if it's true....So why of all places would they put a facility on an Indian reservation? Cause they're protected under the laws that govern those particular lands which means they can basically do whatever they want. And since we gave our land away in the 1972 treaty, I have to believe anything that goes on within the agreed upon territories falls under the laws of the UNITED NATIONS. They're not going to tell you this, the public will just be ignored and it'll be business as usual. Very few sovereign nations exist. The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has long been taken over. One things for certain, they want you off the land(see the Wildland's Map for Agenda 21), and I suspect the cases of disappearances will continue to grow with the point being to scare people away and this is how they will 'force' you off the land...Because things will get so bad the 'officials' will be forced to do something about it as now it's become 'unsafe' so we can't have people out enjoying the National Parks.....And this is how they will take our rights of enjoyment away, while using our tax dollars to do it mind you. 'They' at the highest positions know damn well what's going on and they don't give two rips about the parks loosing money, they want the people off the land. If Agenda 21 didn't exist I might feel otherwise, but at this point it's set in stone and they're doing everything possible to enforce and mandate protocols that strengthen its final stages of completion, which could also explain why it's going on in National Parks across the world.

And though the logical thing to do as an investigator is to search for patterns and similar profiles, I'm not so sure the results merit a legitimate answer or clue. The reason I say this is because profiling is the most obvious thing to do...I can't believe the people behind the disappearances haven't thought of this already. I do wonder what happens to those that never return...are they being sold away in slave camps somewhere? Hopefully someone will be in the right place at the right time and report what they see, but with no enforcement will anything be done about it? Sorry to say, but our military is useless so forget any help from them. They have stood idle while our country has been usurped by domestic enemies making any assistance from them highly unlikely.

Rebel&Rocket
26th July 2015, 03:51
Mine is completely speculative too, Jimmer. My thought is that there wouldn't be any remains left in some cases if it were extraterrestrial for example. The cases where areas are searched over and over with nothing found, then suddenly it appears one day, seeming almost planted....Hard to consider that anything but intentional. But - if you consider for just a minute what DF is saying - if an "entity" (government or otherwise) were plugging up holes, so to speak, where people could potentially "disappear" themselves, out into the woods would be the place for that.

On the other hand, it's been going on much longer than Agenda 21 or any modern programs. It's definitely strange and disturbing phenomena.

jimmer
26th July 2015, 15:37
I happen to agree about the nefarious intent of agenda 21 and all,
but to contribute the missing 411s to big government subterfuge is a stretch for me.
my take is they can't do anything about the strangeness factor and look away.

R&R makes a good point as to the time lines of A21 and the missing 411.

so we seem to have two 'missing' camps: big gov't v. the paranormal.

john keel saw a connection between ultra-strange human interaction and blood.
I kid you not.
like others, keel believed there was something there.

could there be a connection between animal mutilations, and the missing?

if it's big gov't, you'd have to accept that the ultra-high strangeness connected
to the missing case were tantamount to satanic rituals and all.

I just don't think they go there (in any organized, sustained fashion).

Divine Feminine
26th July 2015, 18:08
I'll take a listen, thanks Jimmer! Just want to clarify, I'm not saying the disappearances started because of Agenda 21, I'm just saying the maps of the Wildlands Project, which is Agenda 21 based, cover the same areas of the disappearances and now that its policies and procedures are firmly established, they have carte blanche to do whatever they want with no repercussions or threats from anyone of significance, therefore possibly explaining the uptick in disappearances compared to when they first began.

I remember an interview on the John B. Wells show, Caravan To Midnight, episode 11 with Major Bill Donahue. He made this comment towards the end of the broadcast:
"We saw everything that entered the atmosphere because everything that enters the atmosphere, that I’m aware of, creates a heat signature as it enters the atmosphere, and I never saw any UFO’s or anything we couldn’t identify. So, uh, while I would love to believe in UFO’s, I never saw any evidence of it while I worked at NORAD.”

For some reason Malc didn't post this particular episode, otherwise I'd share the link. The above remark comes to my mind often and might explain why I think there's a higher likelihood our government is involved. That doesn't mean I don't think UFO's exist. Remember the interviews of Clifford Stone? What did he say....our government had identified 57 different species by the time he got out of the military. Of course Donahue could be lying....but his comment says two thing to me, either there really aren't any UFO's or since the government has already identified them, they're not considered 'unidentified flying objects' except to those of us who never got the memo.

I couldn't believe as a journalist, Wells didn't ask for clarification, wtf??...hmmm isn't that interesting?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Donahue
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/William_J_Donahue.jpg/220px-William_J_Donahue.jpg


http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/clifford_stone_interview_transcript_en.html
http://projectcamelot.org/clifford_stone_med.jpg

jimmer
26th July 2015, 18:21
are you mixing ufos and missing 411?
seems like oil and water.

btw: the recently posted paulides interview
is one of the worst and strangest I've ever listened to.
the 'other' host is such a knuckle head, david at some
point checks out, goes silent.

I'd start listening with the 'excerpt' if I was you ; )

Divine Feminine
26th July 2015, 18:31
Well some of the comments on here elude that the government might not be involved, so it opens the door to possible UFO abductions, especially in cases where a body is found with many bones broken as if they've been dropped from the sky. Does that answer your question?

EDIT TO ADD: or the UFO's are really our government using advance technology

jimmer
26th July 2015, 18:51
Well some of the comments on here elude that the government might not be involved, so it opens the door to possible UFO abductions, especially in cases where a body is found with many bones broken as if they've been dropped from the sky. Does that answer your question?

EDIT TO ADD: or the UFO's are really our government using advance technology


sorry if I came off curt.
I didn't mean to be provocative or argumentative.
just wanted to clear-up you swing from gov't lurkings to the ufo meme.

have you seen any evidence leading to a ufo/missing 411 connection? (whether it's gov't related or not)

I've been watching this story for a while and haven't seen any.

jimmer
26th July 2015, 18:56
listen to this retelling of a strange event
and ask yourself, is this how the missing happens?


https://soundcloud.com/jimmerjimmer/the-trap

Divine Feminine
26th July 2015, 19:21
It's ok Jimmer, you're fine, I wanted to make sure I was clear on your question. I like swapping information back and forth with people as you never know when you might get a tidbit you haven't come across before. I also brought in additional info I knew of(Donahue and Stone) cause I thought they could be relevant to add to the conversation.

"have you seen any evidence leading to a ufo/missing 411 connection? (whether it's gov't related or not)"

Not personally no, I'm just evaluating the situation based on what I've learned(or think I've learned, lol) through years of researching. Like everyone else I have theories, but I'm not out there in the trenches like David. I've only been aware of this situation for about a year, so it's now on my radar.

If the government doesn't know anything...why did that FBI agent kill himself after 30 years of service? The one involved in the Dennis Martin case from the Smokey Mtns...He must have known something. And then there's the Green Beret who comes in on the same case....My first thought was maybe they brought them in to make a sweep to clean up any possible left over evidence, who knows. Listening to that interview(the first one you gave me)..it's good.

Rebel&Rocket
26th July 2015, 19:28
The excerpt is definitely interesting. I, just last night, read the transcript of BR's (Avalon) interviews with Henry Deacon, a physicist from Livermore. He talks about many "missing" children being taken to the future to repopulate, taken from now before some catastrophe that alters the human genome. Yes, it's a stretch, but the timing of reading that made me think, "hm....."

You're right though about David. As many years as he's been doing this, and as thorough as he appears to be, if he thinks it's not human, I'd have to take his word for it. All of it leads back to the few cases where remains are found, the condition that they're found, and the places they're found. None of those I've heard/read so far seem anything but intentional plants and clues to throw any theories off. If they were very organized abductions, any remains would be clumsy at best, which makes me feel strongly they're intentional.

I'll say this though - living so close to a couple of the "hot spots," and particularly the biggest hot spot (Yosemite), it sure makes me think twice about taking my kids camping.

jimmer
26th July 2015, 19:43
I'll say this though - living so close to a couple of the "hot spots," and particularly the biggest hot spot (Yosemite), it sure makes me think twice about taking my kids camping.

like paulides says, don't stop enjoying the outdoors, just have solid ground rules:

never camp or hike alone

carry individual gps tracking units

and stay close, no straggling

as for the disparate 411 evidence and all,
as george knapp thinks, "it's as if something is messing with us."

which brings us back to the tricksters IMHO.

I believe' the trap' incident is as close as we've ever gotten to evidence
of what the missing 411 source is: the paranormal.

jimmer
26th July 2015, 19:58
if you'd like to explore the 'trickster' theme,
here's a link to an entry from the 'john keel, adventurer' thread.
it's keel's theory as to what some consider UFOs.
for the most part, they aren't from out there.
more like – they're all around us.

http://jandeane81.com/threads/4277-John-Keel-Adventurer?p=34138&viewfull=1#post34138

jimmer
26th July 2015, 20:23
I did some digging and found the interview that paulides
reveals what he thinks the missings are not.

later in this excerpt, he discusses the 'missing phones home' case. not to be missed.

https://youtu.be/NfVs3Q1faRQ?t=43m

click this link, if you haven't listened to this 2 part, 2 hour interview, it's one of the best. (http://jandeane81.com/threads/4277-John-Keel-Adventurer?p=841926098&viewfull=1#post841926098)

running out.

Divine Feminine
26th July 2015, 21:08
btw: the recently posted paulides interview
is one of the worst and strangest I've ever listened to.
the 'other' host is such a knuckle head, david at some
point checks out, goes silent.

I'd start listening with the 'excerpt' if I was you ; )

I thought this was a weird interview too Jimmer and yes David does seem to 'check out'. I was going to bring up the same excerpt where the one host shared how he would disappear when he was a youngster. There are many possibilities so lumping all these cases into one explanation might not be appropriate. There definitely could be more than one situation going on here. Then you could also have one of these 'entities' taking advantage of what's happening by adding to the disappearances for their own agendas such as human trafficking.

Divine Feminine
27th July 2015, 01:28
ok, here's something really ironic....I just got a call from someone in Lewiston, ID...the exact place the the radio host said he would disappear and no one could find him when he was little. :shocked:......I don't know anyone in Lewiston, ID....I couldn't really understand what the guy was saying, but I think he said 'congratulations on your new car'. Omg...that was too weird...I didn't buy a new car, so it must be a wrong number, but of all the places this call could have come from it has to be Lewiston in which we were just talking about above. So if I disappear....lol...

jimmer
27th July 2015, 14:01
ok, here's something really ironic....I just got a call from someone in Lewiston, ID...the exact place the the radio host said he would disappear and no one could find him when he was little. :shocked:......I don't know anyone in Lewiston, ID....I couldn't really understand what the guy was saying, but I think he said 'congratulations on your new car'. Omg...that was too weird...I didn't buy a new car, so it must be a wrong number, but of all the places this call could have come from it has to be Lewiston in which we were just talking about above. So if I disappear....lol...

interesting.
was it a 'robo call' or a live person?

Divine Feminine
27th July 2015, 16:26
It was a live person, they left me a voicemail and I looked up the number as I didn't recognize it...totally weird. It's not uncommon for me to have synchronistic moments happen such as this. So as the saying goes, either the universe is talking to me or it's my guides. Usually it's right after I'm telling people something or when I'm researching. If I had to guess, in this instance it pertains to an idea I posted and my instinct goes to post #175, where I said this:

"...One things for certain, they want you off the land(see the Wildland's Map for Agenda 21), and I suspect the cases of disappearances will continue to grow with the point being to scare people away and this is how they will 'force' you off the land...Because things will get so bad the 'officials' will be forced to do something about it as now it's become 'unsafe' so we can't have people out enjoying the National Parks.....And this is how they will take our rights of enjoyment away, while using our tax dollars to do it mind you. 'They' at the highest positions know damn well what's going on and they don't give two rips about the parks loosing money, they want the people off the land. If Agenda 21 didn't exist I might feel otherwise, but at this point it's set in stone and they're doing everything possible to enforce and mandate protocols that strengthen its final stages of completion, which could also explain why it's going on in National Parks across the world."

Expanding on the idea more....after this call happened I was listening to one of the old interviews you had linked of David. Apparently someone who listened to one of his talks became proactive and started a petition to get the parks to start documenting the disappearances. So apparently this is already heading in the direction I'm predicting above. The public will become so outraged, they're going to demand the government act....and I suspect this is exactly what they're hoping for as then they can implement their plan faster to get people off the land(hence the uptick in disappearances) and the people will comply as now they fear 'the unexplained' has taken over their forests. We are kept in the dark as to the level of technology our governments have access to....which is why I say, they know damn well what's going on....remember the NORAD employee and the comment he made? Granted the big question is, how long have we had this type of technology where we can disappear people without being seen and then change the weather patterns so any scent or evidence is wiped away and searches are unable to take to the skies till the storm passes through. In most of the cases well trained dogs cannot pick up the scents indicating the possibility a person is being picked up right where they last stood. Even in cases involving snow, there are no footprints to be found. So whether it's some cloaked space craft or a manufactured wormhole/dimension I feel strongly our government is behind it. And if the outcome I predict begins to happen, consider that your answer.

Yes there have been strange cases of unexplained disappearances from long ago, but without proper documentation how do we even know they can be lumped into the current cases? Which is why I'm beginning to think we might have more than one thing going on here. The UNITED STATES government is well known for 'never letting a crisis go to waste', which makes them prime candidates for jumping on the bandwagon by taking advantage of the said tragedies and adding additional components which aid in propelling their agenda in an advantageous direction.

Divine Feminine
27th July 2015, 17:28
So I'm perusing the CANAM website right now and looking at the new cases...there are three that just happened in a matter of 12 days in cluster areas. But here's what caught my eye...take a look at the missing Walter Schieb. Uuhh...this could fit into what I was saying...'never let a crisis go to waste'...look who this guy worked for!

6/13/15

Taos, NM

Walter Scheib, 61 years parks his Subaru at the Yerba Buena Trailhead off State Route 150 near the Taos Ski Area. His cell phone indicates he probably made the summit of Lobo Peak at 12,115. His family realized he never returned and called authorities. Bad weather immediately inundated the search area and caused delays. He was found 25 yards from the trail submerged in a drainage. He died of drowning.

http://www.taosnews.com/news/article_8df02cf4-19f1-11e5-ab1b-67886be56d21.html

Walter was the White House chef from 1994-2005 for George W. Bush and the Clintons.

••This happened in a northern New Mexico Cluster Zone where we have documented 8 people that have vanished.

Here's David's summary of all three cases:

Summary

Three different disappearances in 12 days in three states that all geographically touch each other.

• Disabilities

• Bad Weather

• Water

• Law Enforcement starts to believe there is a criminal element

• Happened in an established cluster

• Canines couldn’t track to the victim

Can all of this be a mere coincidence?

http://www.canammissing.com/recent_cases.html

jimmer
27th July 2015, 17:42
there are no coincidence, only synchronicity.

(btw: who designed that site? über amateur-hour. their cause deserves better.)

Divine Feminine
27th July 2015, 17:54
oh I know, it's a little rough on the eyes...and I don't like that you have to scroll down every time you click on a new page, why such a big caption, it's kinda annoying. This is the first time I've ever been on here. I noticed on the upcoming events David is talking with MUFON, so I don't think he'd be doing this if there wasn't a possibility of a UFO connection.

These stories are heart breaking...I can't imagine what these families must feel, it's really bothering me.

jimmer
27th July 2015, 18:07
DF, we don't have enough information to do anything about it.

you need to observe, remember and then let it go.

if paulides doesn't have the answers, no one else can.

be certain, if and when a breakthrough happens, we'll hear about it.

for now, stay vigil and relaxed. okay?

jimmer
27th July 2015, 21:47
scott carpenter has really, really good eyes,
but even I can see this one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8_CY7L1zGY

Frances
28th July 2015, 00:59
Link to the John Keel thread.


http://jandeane81.com/threads/4277-John-Keel-Adventurer?p=34138&viewfull=1#post34138

I am most comfortable with this explanation of, The Interdimensional Sasquatch and UFO's.
We call these entities Sasquatch, but I have never read or heard about them calling themselves Sasquatch.
I don't know what they call themselves.

Evidence.
You can see them.
You can hear them.
You can measure them.
You can record them.

The same thing that's been going on for hundreds of years.
We are still doing it, just a different style of documentation.
My thoughts only of course.
Frances.

jimmer
28th July 2015, 01:14
right on, frances. you keelian, you : )

forever is certainly a long, long time.
longer than we will ever know.
for we are the new kids.

Frances
28th July 2015, 13:01
Scott Carpenter puts a lot of care and detail into his presentations.
He is always helping the viewer to see what he see's.
It's very clever the way he is able to highlight the important information.
Frances.

jimmer
28th July 2015, 15:11
mike paterson says hi to SV4ers.

it appears that YT / Sasquatch Ontario may be back for good, since his nemesis is running out of claims.

he's biding his time, with a couple of situations he'll be looking into.

in the meantime, he's learning new video editing software, for SO 2.0, but he's not in a rush.

let's hope he can get YT to remove that 'competing, bogus' Sasquatch Ontario site or force them to change the name.
it's all been done in malice.
mike created the name long before partnering with the family.

search as we might, there's nothing like mike's work.
he owns the sasquatch story.

until SO2, we'll just need to be patient.
the stories must lie in wait for the return of the scribe.

lift the veil
28th July 2015, 17:05
Talk about synchronicity...I was just going to ask you, Jimmer, if you had any updates on Mike and what he might be up to. You must have been reading my mind. :shocked:

jimmer
28th July 2015, 17:28
Talk about synchronicity...I was just going to ask you, Jimmer, if you had any updates on Mike and what he might be up to. You must have been reading my mind. :shocked:

I am reading your mind right now, LTV.

do not eat that entire pizza!

seriously though, mike is wisely weighing his options.

he's alive, well, getting rejuvenated, playing his music and plans on doing some recording.

as for getting back into it. he's got a few things in mind. a few visits to be made.

a natural thing to do would partner-up with chris munch. but that's just me.

jimmer
28th July 2015, 18:12
I posted this thinking it was a new interview. not.
anyway, I can't remember this one, so what's old is new, I guess ; )
considering D was a head case throughout mike's cottage sessions,
this should be interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f19EUYp8Zo0

sandancer
29th July 2015, 17:11
Well , he's done it AGAIN , that fool ( being careful with my language here in respect of forum rules !!!) the owners son has had the REAL S.O taken down

He continues to name call and and show himself up for the child he really is by putting Mike down and blaming everything on him .

The trouble is some followers really believe what he is claiming having only seen his version of the story . Makes me so angry if only they could see the vitriolic posts he put on here !

Mike , we know the truth , keep on fighting my friend The real Sasquatch Ontario will prevail :rock:

Ok sorry for the quick rant just had to get it off my chest :ok:

jimmer
29th July 2015, 18:01
absolutely unbelievable.
I hope all those good people who wanted
Dbag to stay at SV4 remain happy with themselves. (where ever they are)

jimmer
31st July 2015, 14:43
here's a mid-week podcast of 'where did the road go.'

this interview is with david paulides and his son, ben.

the kickstarter champaign is close, but has stalled.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1032329905/missing-411-the-movie


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4VJiaHVTgE

Norvegicus
1st August 2015, 15:13
Back again!
I've missed you all here on SV3/SV4! Welcom Divine Feminine! :smile2:
I have read through all the threads from when I was in the last time. Sigh... It went as it had to go with people like the so called owner. I hope Karma will catch up with him! Miss Mike and Neph.

After an eventful summer I'm home again. My best friend was dying, cancer, with 2 young children, one week before she died, her husband fell and died, massive heart attack ... leaving her children orphans. Because of lots of different sickness / death insurance, the children were left as very rich. That was far from positive for the kids. All possible relatives who were not at all interested in the children's best, expressed interest in taking over parental responsibility. Even 96 years old grandparents... I just had to fight the battle for the children, so they went to someone who really cared about them, and not only was interested in the money.
After that I went on a long trip cross around the Europe. I looked for Sasquatch signs up in the Alps in Italy, Switzerland and Austria. I wandered hundreds of miles in thick forest and up in the mountains. In places it could go days between each time I saw other people. Nothing! Absolutely nothing! Not a single sign.
Next year I will do better reaserch and maybe go to the old Yugoslavia for squatching. It is by no means safe to wander alone as a woman in barren terrain in these countries, but I have done it before and I hope and believe I am capable enough to keep me hidden / disguised from most hazards...

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/SV4MOD6_sm_zpsktvgzhdp.jpg~original

Norvegicus
1st August 2015, 15:24
Oh.. good old Samos has left us! Sigh... Miss him!!!
If you read this Samos, know that I really miss you, and I hope our paths will cross again. Fare well and "håper vi sees igjen!" :smile2:

jimmer
1st August 2015, 15:56
Back again!
I've missed you all here on SV3/SV4! Welcom Divine Feminine! :smile2:
I have read through all the threads from when I was in the last time. Sigh... It went as it had to go with people like the so called owner. I hope Karma will catch up with him! Miss Mike and Neph.

After an eventful summer I'm home again. My best friend was dying, cancer, with 2 young children, one week before she died, her husband fell and died, massive heart attack ... leaving her children orphans. Because of lots of different sickness / death insurance, the children were left as very rich. That was far from positive for the kids. All possible relatives who were not at all interested in the children's best, expressed interest in taking over parental responsibility. Even 96 years old grandparents... I just had to fight the battle for the children, so they went to someone who really cared about them, and not only was interested in the money.
After that I went on a long trip cross around the Europe. I looked for Sasquatch signs up in the Alps in Italy, Switzerland and Austria. I wandered hundreds of miles in thick forest and up in the mountains. In places it could go days between each time I saw other people. Nothing! Absolutely nothing! Not a single sign.
Next year I will do better reaserch and maybe go to the old Yugoslavia for squatching. It is by no means safe to wander alone as a woman in barren terrain in these countries, but I have done it before and I hope and believe I am capable enough to keep me hidden / disguised from most hazards...


you have been busy, Norway and welcome back to the friendly confines of SV4.
congratulations on doing the right thing for the kids.
sometimes life comes down with both feet.
you certainly rose to the occasion.
that's what friends do.

frankly, here at SV4, you haven't missed much.

mike is still attempting to get beyond the cottage clan, while the sasquatch realm has quieted,
as we await the next breakthrough; the dropping of the other shoe.

like hushed mischievous children, this quieted sasquatch community is leading to something.
what? we'll see eventually.

as for samos' dramatic departure?
he is now an official and interested lurker.
like you, it's hard to not follow this subject.

jimmer
1st August 2015, 16:28
from FB, here's one of many wonderful shots from mike's west coast trip.
the boy has talents.

https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11817137_511245939034379_3263642355814220832_n.jpg ?oh=1d2648bd3afaffe8e030b7955ddc5115&oe=563F86EF

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=511245939034379&set=a.114657972026513.22679.100004469310755&type=1&theater

Divine Feminine
1st August 2015, 16:57
omg, beautiful photo! I love looking/taking pictures of sceneries too! Hi Norve and thanks for the greeting! I try to pop in once in while as now I'm hooked but can't always keep up. I hope you guys forgive me if I ask all ready answered questions. I'll do my best to watch everything but time often doesn't permit. I miss Mike and Neph too, my favorite audio was listening to him talk to Neph, that was amazing! I think that's what got me hooked and fascinated. What an experience for Mike....I hope he has luck doing the same again with another. You are very brave Norve to walk in forests alone with all that's been taking place! I use to hike a lot when I was younger, and alone. I would never do it now...When I think of all the places I use to go...I'm probably lucky I didn't run into any trouble. I spent a lot of time in Mt. Hood National Forest and areas of Colorado-Rocky Mtn. National Park, Estes Park, and the Flat Irons in Boulder. I consider myself more of a mtn. girl than an ocean girl, though I've explored many Ocean parks too. I miss not having the time to do more hiking. Well it looks like I have some audios to catch up on, thanks Jimmer!

jimmer
1st August 2015, 18:34
here's an interesting conversation with an author who goes there: the other.

from 'where did the road go' comes a discussion of fairies, sasquatch and ufos.

and along the way, the work of john keel, david paulides and others is explored.

a heady, fun listen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NG0wvl5iSE

ZShawn
1st August 2015, 18:49
other than serving as a cool reason for going off into the mountains I don't really see what the fascination is with this topic.... as in why does it seem to be so interesting for some folks.

It does seem to generate a lot of commercial product though which there is a slice of the demographic that seems inordinately obsessed with this idea

Norvegicus
1st August 2015, 19:45
Divine Feminine wrothe:
"You are very brave Norve to walk in forests alone with all that's been taking place! I use to hike a lot when I was younger, and alone. I would never do it now...When I think of all the places I use to go...I'm probably lucky I didn't run into any trouble. I spent a lot of time in Mt. Hood National Forest and areas of Colorado-Rocky Mtn. National Park, Estes Park, and the Flat Irons in Boulder. I consider myself more of a mtn. girl than an ocean girl, though I've explored many Ocean parks too. I miss not having the time to do more hiking."
I think hiking in the montain is some of the safest thing you can do, normaly. A lot safer than being in a big city. But (however, there is always a but...) in Europe we now have enormus problems with millions of desperat peoples who are fleeing from war, terror and hunger in Syria, Afghanistan and North Africa. They all want a better life in Europe. Desperate people do desperate things.
I saw some really ugly stuff on my trip this time, things who would have been unthinkable just a year ago. Constantly new refugee routes being tested, to find new ways to get into Europe.
Fortunately, my country is still very safe. Hope it continues into the future...

Divine Feminine
1st August 2015, 20:06
I think hiking in the montain is some of the safest thing you can do, normaly. A lot safer than being in a big city.
Well I use to think this till I started following David Paulides and his 411 work. Ignorance was definitely bliss for me, lol. I haven't checked the stats lately, but one of the forests I use to frequent, Mt. Hood National Forest, has the highest crime rate compared to other National Parks. I had no idea about this when I was hiking...I was very young, dumb and naive. Since I don't think like a criminal it never even crossed my mind.


But (however, there is always a but...) in Europe we now have enormus problems with millions of desperat peoples who are fleeing from war, terror and hunger in Syria, Afghanistan and North Africa. They all want a better life in Europe. Desperate people do desperate things. I saw some really ugly stuff on my trip this time, things who would have been unthinkable just a year ago. Constantly new refugee routes being tested, to find new ways to get into Europe. Fortunately, my country is still very safe. Hope it continues into the future...

Yes I can only imagine what's going on in Europe with all the immigration. We're getting it over here too thanks to our retarded government who has now created 'sanctuary cities' amongst various states where these people are dumped with no jobs and no background checks. This is part of the dismantling program taking place in our country, something we are quite good at doing to other countries with our military I'm embarrassed to say. Now it's being done to us. Many stories of people being killed by illegal immigrants who have no business being in our country in the first place. I haven't noticed this bleeding into our forests in high numbers, yet....but we are a big country. I don't know if I'll ever feel secure walking alone in a forest again in this lifetime. I'm so happy for you if security isn't lost in your country. Enjoy it to the fullest, you are so very lucky and I hope nothing changes this as it's how it should be!

lift the veil
1st August 2015, 20:07
other than serving as a cool reason for going off into the mountains I don't really see what the fascination is with this topic.... as in why does it seem to be so interesting for some folks.

It does seem to generate a lot of commercial product though which there is a slice of the demographic that seems inordinately obsessed with this idea

It is quite obvious that you have not followed these threads from the beginning otherwise you would see that it is much more than just going off into the mountains with your "gone squatchin" t-shirt on. The work done by Mike Paterson with a clan of Sasquatch in Ontario, Canada is the new frontier of Sasquatch research. He goes where no other researchers have the balls, guts nor open-minds to go. His results have shown that Sasquatch are much more than apes or even hairy "men" as they have abilities that men do not possess.

But alas, some people just don't get it. :rolleyes:

Divine Feminine
1st August 2015, 20:16
other than serving as a cool reason for going off into the mountains I don't really see what the fascination is with this topic.... as in why does it seem to be so interesting for some folks.

It does seem to generate a lot of commercial product though which there is a slice of the demographic that seems inordinately obsessed with this idea

I think being able to talk to a Sasquatch is pretty interesting as who does that? If you took the time to follow some of his past work, this is what Mike Patterson was doing. Can you imagine if they continued speaking what we might learn? I personally find that amazing in itself and it's the very reason his work got my attention. It was also recently confirmed through Dental Forensic evidence that these guys exist, but mainstream still ridicules the idea....why is that?

As far as commercial products I have no idea of their existence, other than being amused by those Bigfoot beef jerky commercials shown on t.v. I'm sure members here could comment in more depth as to why the topic is interesting to them. I'm a newbie to this so I don't have the detailed insight other posters might have. I research a plethora of topics; some stand out as more interesting to me than others. I thinking something about the unknown is captivating to people.

jimmer
1st August 2015, 20:34
here's an interview with christopher noel.

while chris believes that sasquatch is a physical, flesh and blood, hybrid species and quite possibly autistic,
the conversation is interesting and could help a novice understand the allure and mystery of the sasquatch people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnJbpDZp2es

if someone would like to delve into the many faceted mystiques of this subject,
there's no better place the TOT thread: Sasquatch Vocalizations 3.0.
it's easy to find using a TOT search.
while the mike paterson videos are down for now,
there's a trove of researched information that is as fascinating as it is educational.

http://jandeane81.com/threads/317-Sasquatch-Vocalizations-3-0?highlight=vocalizations

jimmer
1st August 2015, 21:13
how interesting...

this bigfoot researcher has had plenty of negative things to say about mike paterson's work.
a real skeptic. (or was it jealousy?)

well, it turns out that after witnessing the punitive actions of Dbag and family,
he now supports mike's right to post his work.

as we now know, mike has been a saint throughout his time with this family.

very early on, I thought that if mike was pulling shenanigans, that one day
he'd either walk away to say, just kidding, or there'd be a fallout between
mike and the owner group, with fingers pointing to the fallacies.
well, the fallout happened and no crying hoax.
only childish foot stompings and nastiness.

if that's not proof of mike's veracity, I don't know what is.
I guess that's the only good thing that's come of this meltdown.

give a listen....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lo_-QS4fZ4

Divine Feminine
1st August 2015, 22:13
Well I use to think this till I started following David Paulides and his 411 work. Ignorance was definitely bliss for me, lol. I haven't checked the stats lately, but one of the forests I use to frequent, Mt. Hood National Forest, has the highest crime rate compared to other National Parks. I had no idea about this when I was hiking...I was very young, dumb and naive. Since I don't think like a criminal it never even crossed my mind.

Norvegicus, I want to clarify what I said above(underlined). As I was re-reading what I typed, I realized what I said could be misconstrued the wrong way. I wasn't implying that you were ignorant, only that I was ignorant because being young I just didn't think anything bad could happen to me. Our country probably isn't as safe as yours so it was quite ignorant of me to not take more precautions when I went hiking alone. Basically I was a sitting duck when I think back to some of the situations I use to place myself in when I would take off to the mtns.....During the time I was hiking in Colorado I was only 16 years old. I lived with my aunt and uncle for a year and they were quite relaxed with the rules. Had my parents known what I was doing they would have made me come home. It was nothing for me to be gone 10 to 12 hours in a day or longer while exploring. My favorite thing to do was to hike to the top of the front range of the Rockies and watch the thunderstorms blow in...dang that was so cool. There was no fear and I walked unabated for miles just taking it all in.

So my apologies if what I said came off wrong, not my intention at all. :smiley hug:

ZShawn
2nd August 2015, 00:51
It is quite obvious that you have not followed these threads from the beginning otherwise you would see that it is much more than just going off into the mountains with your "gone squatchin" t-shirt on. The work done by Mike Paterson with a clan of Sasquatch in Ontario, Canada is the new frontier of Sasquatch research. He goes where no other researchers have the balls, guts nor open-minds to go. His results have shown that Sasquatch are much more than apes or even hairy "men" as they have abilities that men do not possess.

But alas, some people just don't get it. :rolleyes:
well you are right about me not following the threads as I have just arrived and still haven't made it through more than a small bit of what material is offered here.
I have spent a great deal of time in the woods over the decades though and apart from the typical wildlife I have only had a few encounters in the wilds with something else that I couldn't explain, and certainly didn't get to see.... thing I was thinking though is that there have been many serious endeavors over the past say 50 + years to make contact with these elusive folk and....you know... they just don't want to be found.... they desire concealment (and who could blame them really).... so again, what is the point in expending all this effort to expose beings who really don't want the exposure?
indeed this is what any respectable sasquatch seeker who has had any real encounter has come away with, is "respect our desire for privacy"...
but ...alas, some people just don't get it :rolleyes:

lift the veil
2nd August 2015, 01:12
well you are right about me not following the threads as I have just arrived and still haven't made it through more than a small bit of what material is offered here.
I have spent a great deal of time in the woods over the decades though and apart from the typical wildlife I have only had a few encounters in the wilds with something else that I couldn't explain, and certainly didn't get to see.... thing I was thinking though is that there have been many serious endeavors over the past say 50 + years to make contact with these elusive folk and....you know... they just don't want to be found.... they desire concealment (and who could blame them really).... so again, what is the point in expending all this effort to expose beings who really don't want the exposure?
indeed this is what any respectable sasquatch seeker who has had any real encounter has come away with, is "respect our desire for privacy"...
but ...alas, some people just don't get it :rolleyes:

They don't want to be found by assholes with guns who have an agenda to make big money off of bagging one and parading the body around in a circus show. They desire concealment from those types that are driven by base mentality. They can read a persons intent.

They do desire contact by people like Mike who are open minded, come with good intentions, are altruistic, and aren't in it to make a buck/get famous. Mike and other like minded habituators have made contact.

But, alas some people don't get it. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

ZShawn
2nd August 2015, 03:42
They don't want to be found by assholes with guns who have an agenda to make big money off of bagging one and parading the body around in a circus show. They desire concealment from those types that are driven by base mentality. They can read a persons intent.

They do desire contact by people like Mike who are open minded, come with good intentions, are altruistic, and aren't in it to make a buck/get famous. Mike and other like minded habituators have made contact.

But, alas some people don't get it. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

however, my dear, our dearest mike does seem to like to post all his findings on the interwebz for all the fanboys and girls to read about and discuss and share, and where does that all go??
if you want it to be private, well, first rule is you never post it anywhere... and so what then would be the intentions of dearest Mike????
most of this stuff is all made up by peeps wishing to gain notoriety anyways.... any real genuine stuff is kept bottled up and never shared in a public forum, only with true friends.
so we can roll eyes at each other all day..... to what end
LOL
god bless
love ya

Divine Feminine
2nd August 2015, 04:29
hey ZShawn,
I don't know who pee'd on your cheerios, but your first initial post in here kinda rubbed people the wrong way. If you want to get along with forum members you might consider getting to know the stories they're following first and changing the tone of your posts. People will most likely respond better. And of course as many long term forum members have learned, no one is forcing anyone to read or follow any topic, so if you feel it's a waste of time, maybe take a gander at other threads that are of interest to you instead of making snarky comments on a thread involving a subject you seem to to think is a waste of time..... Many of us on here do find it captivating which is why we're here and it's quite the respectful group of people once you get to know everyone.

The One
2nd August 2015, 09:38
For anyone interested the big foot map here (http://www.bigfootencounters.com/sbs/sbs.html)

jimmer
2nd August 2015, 16:28
however, my dear, our dearest mike does seem to like to post all his findings on the interwebz for all the fanboys and girls to read about and discuss and share, and where does that all go??
if you want it to be private, well, first rule is you never post it anywhere... and so what then would be the intentions of dearest Mike????
most of this stuff is all made up by peeps wishing to gain notoriety anyways.... any real genuine stuff is kept bottled up and never shared in a public forum, only with true friends.
so we can roll eyes at each other all day..... to what end
LOL
god bless
love ya

ditto what LTV and DM most eliquently said.

hint: don't attempt to be a bummer, especially when you don't understand the subject matter.
other than that, welcome to TOT : )

ZShawn
2nd August 2015, 17:51
A different point of view is just that, different.
and the question of how to make public a topic which has entities working at keeping it private who are obviously more advanced in certain faculties and are good at hiding away, is a pertinent point to raise....
it is always informative to see what kind of reactions one gets when a sacred cow is tipped though.
and one does not have to be an expert in the fan-lore to have had experiences with these beings....
Having lived amongst the indigenous peoples of Canada for several decades and having spent much time with elders in the bush I found this topic come up from time to time, but most people who had experiences with these beings were very quiet about it, they didn't betray the confidences so openly, they had encounters and they didn't speak of them, out of respect for this tribe ( and right it is that only some are malevolent)....
modern cultures could learn a lot from the humble indians.
In any case thanks for the welcome

lift the veil
2nd August 2015, 18:13
Looks as though the Missing 411 Kickstarter has made/surpassed it's goal of $100,000! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1032329905/missing-411-the-movie

Can't wait for the documentary.

jimmer
2nd August 2015, 18:21
Looks as though the Missing 411 Kickstarter has made/surpassed it's goal of $100,000! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1032329905/missing-411-the-movie

Can't wait for the documentary.

far out and thanks for the news, LTV.

I bet it'll shake the world some.

Divine Feminine
3rd August 2015, 05:42
This recent Idaho missing case is like clockwork as David has discussed. Here's the latest:
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/idaho/2015/08/02/family-fbi-involved-in-search-for-missing-toddler/31038001/

Here's another case that just happened which I thought was kinda weird. So far no sign of this guy and this one happens in the water...so of course the guy's shoes are off. As far as I know they still haven't located a body...and weird one of the searches was called off due to weather, so there's 3 factors which match the other cases.
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/2015/07/29/search-suspended-for-man-who-dove-into-redfish-lake/30847215/

ZShawn
3rd August 2015, 06:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Y0SMitMpk

jimmer
3rd August 2015, 17:53
here are two vids of the psychic explorer: kewaunee lapseritis.
one of the most interesting individuals in sasquatchdom.
where he ventures few dare to tread.

his beginnings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL63y3xq7Nw


in full bloom.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hARPujhcaPs

Divine Feminine
3rd August 2015, 20:39
I really liked that second interview Jimmer...a lot of what he says resonates with me. Wish he had an easier name to remember, lol. Several things he discusses ties into some of my points/experiences I've shared in the 'Great Experiment' thread. I feel validated I'm on the right the path. He would very much appreciate my kundalini story and the message I've shared as it coincides with his point in the last few minutes of the interview and his discussion on being 'open hearted'. I realize this is difficult for many to truly understand until they have those kind of experiences but I believe it's why we're here. The majority of the population doesn't understand what it means to be spiritual as they are caught up in the 3D experience. I understand as I use to be one of them. I have high hopes this is changing as I watch people grow and I know as long as it continues, we'll all be able to experience the Golden Age of our desires some time in the future.

jimmer
3rd August 2015, 20:50
for those who aren't familiar with joan ocean and her sasquatch people experiences,
here's an except from a portion of her story:

The Wise Ones guided us to their bones which lay openly on the Earth (amazing since no one seems able to find bones of the Sasquatch.)
Some ancient bones that have been discovered have been mis-identified as bones of other races.
It is interesting that the sign placed near the bones by researchers says: These are the Bones of the Ancient Ones.
They did not know whose bones they were, only that they were ancient.
They are very tall skeletons, much bigger than those of the people who lived on the land during that time, around 600 AD according to the Wise Ones.
These bones were 6 - 7 feet tall while the indigenous people at that time measured 5'2 to 5'4.

the ancient ones or just run-of-the-mill giants?

here are the skeletons. click on the image to review her incredible story.

http://www.joanocean.com/Webpix2007/sasqIV/69.-SasBones140sm.jpg (http://www.joanocean.com/sasquatch.html)

jimmer
4th August 2015, 20:26
hum. portals.

mike has experienced a red orb (or possibly a portal) materialize before him.
seems that some believe that portals are in fixed, geomagnetic locations.
what if they can materialize at will, anywhere, like opening a doorway?
does that help explain some of the strange missing 411 incidents?

let's talk portals.

is this one?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNaF3qTmz0A
this video is a pure oddity.
long before the skinwalker ranch story, there was the sedona, arizona
portal incidents experienced by the linda bradshaw family.
this is the only surviving compilation of vhs anomalies they recorded.
it's tre amateur-hour.
the book, merging dimensions,
it's quite the read.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIi3qECqGBw
this is a presentation by tom dongo who helped investigate the bradshaw portal incidents.
often tom and linda would walk at night, completly pitch black, and take polaroid photos.
there are plenty of illustrations in this presentation, but possibly the most fascinating
comes at 38:28 -- an unexplainable, close-up of an interdimensional being.
this alone will serve to blow your mind up. :eyebrows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW70x8xd3T0
tom talks about ufos a lot, but are they really 'off-world' alien entities or something much closer and interdimensional?

Divine Feminine
4th August 2015, 21:35
Since it's kinda slow on the Sasquatch front I thought I would expand a bit on something I mentioned back on page 12 or 13 about the public lands of the United States being under international law. I think this is important for anyone involved in the missing 411 work of David Paulides to have this knowledge. I had mentioned many of our national monuments fall under international law thanks to The 1972 World Heritage Treaty discussed here:
http://www.infowars.com/united-nations-biosphere-reserve-land-grabs/

“Neither Congress, nor any state legislature, has ever voted to approve any of the 47 UN Biosphere Reserves in the United States. The management policy for millions of acres covered by these reserves is crafted by international committees of bureaucrats, none of whom is elected. To comply with ‘international obligations,’ the United States conforms its management policy and, in some cases. its law to accommodate the wishes of bureaucrats that are completely unknown to the people who are governed by the policies,” Lamb insists.

“This reality is but a hint of what is in store for those governed by the rule of international law. Massive documents, such as the 1140-page ‘Global Biodiversity Assessment,’ the 300-page ‘Agenda 21,’ and the 410-page ‘Our Global Neighborhood,’ all paint a picture of the international law that is being devised to govern the world in the 21st century.” (For more information visit www.eco.freedom.org .) "



I was researching something else when I came across additional information that continues to enforce the above. Check this out:

Foreign Agents

Pan American Treaty of 12-26-1933(49STA3097) Treaty Series 881- convention on Rights & Duties of the States-Congress took State statues off and put the States under international law. State statues don’t hold standing in international law, also called Montevideo Treaty.

International Organization Immunities Act of 12-9-1945- Congress relinquished every public office over to the U.N. Local governments up to the president fall under UN jurisdiction. Congress gave the UN right to dictate what laws will be international & gave them the right to tax the States.

International Reorganization Rescind Act- Congress put this into form but they never took action to rescind the act. Fairly recently an Ohio judge filed suit claiming that Congress did not have the right to relinquish government authority over to the UN (a Corporation or foreign country) and that the congressional act was a constitutional violation because they didn’t put it to the States or the people to agree on it. In 2005 the US Supreme court declined to hear the case therefore all public offices are under UN jurisdiction & they are not American citizens.


Ya I get this is a bit much to absorb. But we have to understand we're under international law which explains why the government officials aren't cooperating and ignoring the FOIA requests by David and others...they don't have to comply. Additionally you now know they(these government officials) are considered 'Foreign Agents' acting under the compliance of international law. If this information is being interpreted correctly, not only are our national monuments and parks under international law so is every State and as it says above' state statues don't have standing in international law'.

So.......we'll be spinning our wheels making requests and demands to the wrong entities. My guess is, we as individuals have no rights under international law and never will so they could care less how many disappear as 'they' have openly declared the need for depopulation. I feel strongly by more people complaining, it will just give them(those in charge) more fuel to shut down our parks indefinitely. A thought occurred to me...could the whole point in disappearing boys/men be to assist in keeping the population down? Look how many men have been killed in the military, by design. Veterans are targets and have been treated like guinea pigs being injected with god knows what diseases via the MIC's(Military Industrial Complex) vaccination programs. Our military is comprised mainly of the male gender so considering the globalists agenda, I can see why men are more of a target in these forest disappearances than women at this point. It's important to mention, until we know more, lumping all the cases under one cause is premature, but I'm just contributing this theory based on what we know about the globalist agenda, as it does fit nicely into their long term desires.

The problem lies in the fact that we have no enforcement! Think about what I shared above.....the people in charge that you would think you can go to for assistance/enforcement, are considered to be foreign agents! Which is why they won't help! Who's to say how many working in these departments/areas actually understand this....but you can bet the one's at the top such as the Secretary of the DOI (Department of Interior)understands, which is who our national parks fall under!
http://www.doi.gov/whoweare/secretaryjewell.cfm

http://www.doi.gov/whoweare/images/Secretary-Jewell-200x278.jpg
Obama appointee Secretary Sally Jewell is going to save all those lost/ NOT

So the big question remains, what can we even do about it? And don't say Oathkeepers cause their fearless 'leader' has a bit of a problem in the fact that he's a Yale graduate with a barrister title (attorney) making him a 'foreign agent' too if I understand correctly. Furthermore, I believe his organization is a non-profit under a 501(c)3 which has all of them falling under the jurisdiction of the UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA INC. ...ya...see where this is going.......

Additionally...when you're active military, you also are chattel to a different set of laws which is exactly why you'll see no help from them either. Anybody else find the current situation stemming from the recent Tennessee military shooting a little odd? The center’s commanding officer, Lt. Cmdr. Timothy White who allegedly fired back at the dumba$$ self proclaimed Jihadist who intentionally went to kill people, will have to face a court martial by the UNITED STATES NAVY(capitalized on purpose)for his heroic actions because he illegally discharged a firearm on federal property....seriously??? ya...seriously....and it's because he's under the jurisdiction of the corporation, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INC. and its international laws most likely postulated then devised under such entities as the UNITED NATIONS.

Bottom line, we're screwed and as I continually research, the one common theme I keep happening upon is enforcement. You will come across people that really 'get it'...they truly understand how the rightful system has been circumvented and every time what stops them dead in their tracks from any type of accomplishment is lack of enforcement.


PS And if I'm inaccurate in anything I've stated I'm more than happy to be corrected, so anyone speak up if they know more I only politely ask that they provide references to back statements so we can confirm, not just rhetoric.

Divine Feminine
5th August 2015, 00:17
Hey Jimmer,
Looks like we posted on top of one another, my apologies. Had I known you were posting I would have held off on mine for a while. :smiley hug:
Thanks for the new info, will check it out.

jimmer
5th August 2015, 00:22
if it some international/USA consortium, how would you explain the paranormal
aspects of the disappearances and discoveries.

a two year old child goes missing, weeks later found miles away, two mountains away,
at the tree line elevation, requiring a rough, several hundred foot climb.
a two year old -- the agenda 21 gov't folks did that?

how? better yet, why the strangeness? not just strangeness – high strangeness.

I get that agenda 21 is the creeping crud, but are they posing these cases as paranormal?

my take, it's not caused by we humans.
even paulides is there.

jimmer
5th August 2015, 00:27
Hey Jimmer,
Looks like we posted on top of one another, my apologies. Had I known you were posting I would have held off on mine for a while. :smiley hug:
Thanks for the new info, will check it out.


the third video, the 2 hour presentation will delight and perplex, I guar-on-tee.

Divine Feminine
5th August 2015, 00:29
Well the problem lies in the fact we don't know what kind of technology our government has access to. Maybe they can open up portals, maybe they have cloaking devices....we just don't know, so me personally...I can't rule out their involvement.

My point in posting the international law info is because the people of authority you would think might be able to help us aren't going to assist in the manner we would expect as these individuals are 'foreign agents', which is why when you read about some of these cases, you hear stories how government officials aren't cooperating. I'm showing you some of the reasons why that could be in the post above.

EDIT TO ADD: 'They' have also told us, "never let a crisis go to waste", so you can bet whatever is advantageous to them in regards to these disappearances of people, whether they're behind it or not, they're going to do whatever they can in order to obtain maximum results by taking advantage of the situation.

jimmer
5th August 2015, 00:35
Well the problem lies in the fact we don't know what kind of technology our government has access to. Maybe they can open up portals, maybe they have cloaking devices....we just don't know, so me personally...I can't rule out their involvement.

My point in posting the international law info is because the people of authority you would think might be able to help us aren't going to assist in the manner we would expect as these individuals are 'foreign agents', which is why when you read about some of these cases, you hear stories how government officials aren't cooperating. I'm showing you some of the reasons why that could be in the post above.


oh, I do get where you're coming from.

I just don't see gov't agencies laying a cover of high strangeness.
it's too involved, even for the dopes in big gov't.

which of paulides books have you read?
I've got the orange, western states edition.

Divine Feminine
5th August 2015, 00:38
Looks like I had a double so I'll use this to answer your question...

I have not read David's books. I have however listened to several of his interviews and read about various cases online. Two cases I remember off the top of my head where there seemed to be odd behavior by government officials or should I call them 'foreign agents' was the Jaryd Atadero case out of northern Colorado and the Dennis Martin case from the Great Smoky Mtn National Park.

If you go to this link on David's site, it takes you to the SAR(Search and Rescue) organizations. Look how many are listed...and I bet you all of them are 'incorporated' and therefore can be considered 'foreign agents' under the direction of international law and the UNITED NATIONS. Do these guys even understand who they represent? Probably not.....
http://www.canammissing.com/links.html

Again, I wouldn't lump all these cases into one cause, we just don't know enough yet.

jimmer
6th August 2015, 00:42
so no one wants to discuss portals or vortices?
it's a fascinating and mystifying subject. (http://jandeane81.com/threads/7033-Sasquatch-Vocalizations-4-0?p=841933960&viewfull=1#post841933960)

Divine Feminine
6th August 2015, 05:12
Hey Jimmer,
I just haven't had time to go through the last set of videos you've posted. I enjoyed all the others, but I ran out of free time. Hopefully I can get to them in the next couple of days. Sorry I can't stay on top of it, unfortunately work gets in the way.

Hey Jimmer,
I just haven't had time to go through the last set of videos you've posted. I enjoyed all the others, but I ran out of free time. Hopefully I can get to them in the next couple of days. Sorry I can't stay on top of it, unfortunately work gets in the way.

lift the veil
6th August 2015, 13:42
so no one wants to discuss portals or vortices?
it's a fascinating and mystifying subject. (http://jandeane81.com/threads/7033-Sasquatch-Vocalizations-4-0?p=841933960&viewfull=1#post841933960)
I definitely believe that portals/vortices are in play here and are utilized by many of the denizens of other dimensions, whomever they may be. :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

jimmer
6th August 2015, 14:36
I definitely believe that portals/vortices are in play here and are utilized by many of the denizens of other dimensions, whomever they may be. :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

and what about the missing 411 cases?

here one second, gone the next, forever.

has there ever been scientific research/experiments into vortices?

jimmer
8th August 2015, 17:41
if you haven't listened to mike rugg's first art bell interview, it's a treat.

click this link to listen in... (http://jandeane81.com/threads/7570-Midnight-In-The-Desert-Art-Bell-Michael-Rugg-on-Bigfoot-August-06-2015?p=841934205&viewfull=1#post841934205)
I'm not sure why artbell.com provides 3 separate audio links. I've emailed the producer about this, without response.
what I do is copy the audio file link to separate browser window tabs. that way it's easy to listen to all three parts.
PC: right click on audio link, "copy audio address". MAC: control, click on audio link and do the same

click this link to the artbell.com page with mike's 'bigfoot tooth' photos. (http://artbell.com/aug-6-2015-michael-rugg-bigfoot-discovery-museum/)

http://d3adcc0j1hezoq.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Mike-Rugg.jpg

Divine Feminine
9th August 2015, 18:40
So I finally watched that Mufon video with Tom and his ufo experiences in Sedona, Jerome and the Bradshaw ranch(post #236 video 3). I thought the photographs were very interesting! I mean pictures of people that aren't even standing there! I also thought the photo of the ufo with the telephone pole was amazing...especially because where it was taken there were no telephone poles on the property! How do you explain that? What a trip! I was sad that the Bradshaw property got sold off to the government...what a dumb move by the son's friends. Obviously they(the gov.) doesn't want anyone to have private property nestled in between their own as they want everyone off of forest lands, one of the reasons being to fulfill the Wildlands Project thanks to Agenda 21.

About dimensions.....I was reading my past life chart from the Edgar Cayce Foundation and found a few interesting comments in there about dimensions. Here's what it said:

From your afterlife experience in the Neptune dimension....

Your afterlife experience in the Uranus dimension of awareness tends to make you an extremist, meaning you do not go at anything halfheartedly.

It is also probable that you came into the earth plane at your birth from the magnanimous, enobling dimension of Jupiter. This is because you had been a service-oriented, "Jupiterian" soul in one of your past lives, probably your immediately previous one.

Your strong mental urges and high intellectual abilities in virtually any direction you choose arise from your afterlife soul journeys, that is, the activities of your superconscious when absent from the material, earth plane.

The readings you get from the Edgar Cayce Foundation A.R.E. are compilations of the thousands of readings Edgar did over several years. At least that's my understanding. So based on the time and day you were born and planet alignment, is how they organized the information from previous readings of this clients.

So if this is true, what they're saying is when you die, your consciousness is visiting other planets. I remember a couple of researchers who studied old channeled material and what was discussed about the afterlife. Both said you go to dimensions that support your belief system. One of these researchers was Stafford Betty from U.C.Bakersfield. I'm pretty sure this concept is backed by science discovered in the research of the biology of belief. The study of Epigenetics and the Biology of Belief tells us beliefs create realities. Thoughts and emotions vibrate at frequencies. So I have to believe that various dimensions have different vibrational rates.

I'm trying to connect dots here with a variety of information I've studied through the years to try and make sense out of it all. So those pictures that Tom was showing on that Mufon presentation has me wondering what dimension was actually being photographed.....and how many dimension exist on each planet. Can we assume those pictures were of people on Earth in different dimensions or are we seeing people in different dimensions on different planets? And maybe what we're seeing in these photos are people who are really in between lives existing as consciousness which is why we can't see them physically, because they're not in a physical body like what you would have if your were on the physical earth plane.

Divine Feminine
9th August 2015, 19:35
if it some international/USA consortium, how would you explain the paranormal
aspects of the disappearances and discoveries.

I can't at this point, but again, I'm not lumping all the cases into one basket. There could be more than one thing going on here. So I'm not saying all the disappearances are all Agenda 21 based.


a two year old child goes missing, weeks later found miles away, two mountains away,
at the tree line elevation, requiring a rough, several hundred foot climb.
a two year old -- the agenda 21 gov't folks did that?

how? better yet, why the strangeness? not just strangeness – high strangeness.

I get that agenda 21 is the creeping crud, but are they posing these cases as paranormal?

my take, it's not caused by we humans.
even paulides is there.

I thought I explained this, but I'll try again in case my point can't be visualized. Are you familiar with all the technology our government has access to? Can you rule out the possibility that they don't have space ships with cloaking devices? I can't....and this could explain how they can transport a person from one mtn. to be found on another. Look at how many cows have been mutilated and dropped from the sky. How do we know if that's our government or different entities? How do we know there aren't off world beings working for our government that have technology we're not familiar with? Putting all the cases together as being caused by the same phenomena is too premature at this point and I would find it hard to believe David would be doing this himself unless he has some answers that we don't to the questions I asked above. Some cases could be paranormal some cases not, we just don't know. So if I understand your point of view correctly I'm led to believe you think all the cases are caused by paranormal activities? I know it's hard communicating via typing so that's why I'm trying to clarify my point of view.

I'm not trying to change your mind, I'm just trying to make sure my personal point of view is clear and I get the feeling you think I'm thinking all the cases are Agenda 21 based and that's not what I'm saying. Hopefully my thoughts are clarified better.

jimmer
9th August 2015, 21:34
Hi, DF.

I tend to agree, that the disappearances are more complicated than one, single explanation.

of course, we're only talking about the smaller, more refined missing incidents that paulides categorizes as 'unexplainable.'
that constitutes a handful each year, if that.


when you discussed origins, dimensions, jupiter and the afterlife, the documentary, Resurrect the Dead, comes to mind.

if you haven't seen it, it's quite good. the director/producer also wrote the music.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIWpJ5Jl4fE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldDYR_ciJZY

jimmer
10th August 2015, 17:09
this one fits the paulides' missing profile.

click the image to review this new disappearance. (http://www.inquisitr.com/2320216/jerold-joseph-williams-missing/)

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Jerold-Joseph-Williams-missing-boy-665x385.jpg

from JC Johnson's FB page.

Frances
10th August 2015, 19:11
It's all so heartbreaking.
I hope they bring in the psychics, it won't do any less harm than what is already done.
The mother may have been under a spell for a few minutes, not remembering what she saw.
May be hypnosis might reveal something.
The family must be devastated.
Frances.

jimmer
10th August 2015, 19:16
It's all so heartbreaking.
I hope they bring in the psychics, it won't do any less harm than what is already done.
The mother may have been under a spell for a few minutes, not remembering what she saw.
May be hypnosis might reveal something.
The family must be devastated.
Frances.

I agree. yet, like paulides' thinking, it's a rarity.
only when desperation sets in; after way too much time has elapsed.

jimmer
11th August 2015, 14:37
it's let's blow our mind up Tuesday.

here is the latest missing 411 theory: interdimensional worm holes.

"Physicists believe that other dimensions are very real
and that it is entirely possible that beings exist in those dimensions.
They also believe that the only thing separating dimensions is an electromagnetic membrane." (the mesh?)

click on this image to read this length, heady theory.

http://www.vortexhunters.com/images/vortex_vh75.jpg (https://www.facebook.com/notes/985422764836231/?pnref=story)

and yes, the gov't knows about it.

sandancer
11th August 2015, 18:18
Can't read this as I'm not on Facebook .

"They also believe that the only thing separating dimensions is an electromagnetic membrane " the mesh !

Jimmer I like your thinking :eyebrows:

Is there any news on facebook from Mike and whats going on with him ?

jimmer
11th August 2015, 18:48
Can't read this as I'm not on Facebook .

"They also believe that the only thing separating dimensions is an electromagnetic membrane " the mesh !

Jimmer I like your thinking :eyebrows:

Is there any news on facebook from Mike and whats going on with him ?

I'll post the entire theory.
be prepared for either eye strain or text to speech.

as for mike, it's all quiet for now. (I checked his FB today)
although, I bet there's lots of activity in the background.
we'll need to be even more patient.

jimmer
11th August 2015, 18:55
here's that missing 411 theory.
if you have text to speech, fire it up.
if you don't, find an app that provides natural inflection –
that sounds real, not mechanical.

here goes...
science meets the paranormal.

Missing 411, The Mach Effect, And Parallel Dimensions: A P.I.A. Deep Black Report

August 10, 2015 at 11:33am

Posted by Jack Cary on August 7, 2015 at 7:45 AM
This is a P.I.A. Deep Black Report. This report contains an exclusive theory developed by the P.I.A. to explain the many missing persons cases in America's National Park system.

In the last few years a researcher and former law enforcement officer named David Paulides has garnered widespread attention for his investigations into the abnormally large number of missing persons cases in America's National Park system. Paulides has performed an exhaustive investigation into these disapearances and has been able to find very valuable patterns and similarities to many of these cases. The P.I.A. has now examined these patterns and similarities in detail and has developed its own working theory to explain the cause of this disturbing phenomenon.

Upon careful analysis of the known facts of Paulides highlighted cases, our analysts began to realize that there could, in fact, be a scientific explanation for this disturbing phenomenon and we were reminded that the paranormal is the normal, just not yet understood by man. Our theory combines a known scientific theory called the 'Mach Effect' with known Geological science and theoretical physics to help provide a possible explanation to the Missing 411 phenomenon.

Many theories have been proposed to explain this phenomenon from Sasquatch abductions to E.T. activity and even more exotic explanations. None of these proposed theories fits with the known facts of the individual cases themselves. In recent days a new Missing 411 case has been opened. This involves a young man from Cleveland, Ohio on vacation in Southern Colorado. This now missing individual disapeared over a week ago and no trace of him has been found despite exhaustive efforts by search and rescue teams. This particular case fits perfectly with the rest of the Missing 411 phenomenon. All of the details surrounding his disapearnce are nearly identical to other cases.

Around the world in hushed conferences and in published scientific journals some of the best physicists alive today are attempting to relate current physics theories to observed anomalies or paranormal phenomena. Basically their scientific musings and wandering equations are beginning to sniff out the possibility that at least some reported paranormal phenomena could be the result of inter-dimensional beings or time travelers accessing our space time continuum. Likewise they are posing the possibility that physical beings jumping across vast distances of space via wormholes or stargates as a possibility for some UFO activity. One hair raising variation of the interdimensional hypothesis posits that creatures or beings that access our physical reality need not be physical but may be capable of influencing our physical reality and could be capable of such acts as mind control. Some have theorized that they could manifest their influence through long term evolutionary manipulation and act as an unseen influence on human affairs. It could be that any perceived motive would be entirely incomprehensible to us in a human sense.

Some renowned scientists like Michio Kaku are beginning to realize what may be a grim reality for the human species. Kaku writes, “Let’s say that a ten lane superhighway is being built next to an anthill. The question is: would the ants even know what a ten lane super highway is, or what it’s used for, or how to communicate with the workers who are just feet away? And the answer is no…if there is another civilization in our backyard, in the Milky Way Galaxy, would we even know its presence? There’s a good chance that we, like ants in the anthill, would not understand or be able to make sense of a ten lane superhighway next door.” This view is shared by other leading physicist like Beatrize Gato-Rivera who have begun to embrace what their science and intuition are telling them and who have begun to ask questions unthinkable in academia only a few years ago. Gato-Rivera wrote, “If there exists thousands, or millions of parallel universes, separated from ours through extra-dimensions it would be natural then to expect that some proportion of these universes would have the same laws of physics as ours and many of the corresponding advanced civilizations would master the techniques to travel or ‘jump’ through the extra dimensions. This opens up enormous possibilities.” The question now being debated among these scientists is whether or not someone ‘out there’ in a parallel dimension or from far away points in time and space could get here and interact with our reality in bizarre ways. Michio Kaku suggests, “Aliens may be here now, in another dimension, a millimeter away from our own.” Kaku is careful to point out that wave frequencies of other dimensions, times and universes are all around us every moment of every day. He states; “However just like you can only tune into one radio channel, you can only tune into one reality channel, and that is the channel that you exist in. The catch is that we cannot communicate with them, we cannot enter these universes.” Kaku and his colleagues agree, however, that far more advanced beings could possess the technological capability to make the jump between dimensions or parallel universes. Other scientists from disciplines unrelated to physics are surprisingly converging on the same conclusion.

The late Harvard psychiatrist Dr. John Mack won a Pulitzer Prize for his book on the alien abduction phenomenon. He came to believe that there was a connection between all manner of paranormal activity. He wrote; “Taken together, these phenomena tell us many things about ourselves and the universe that challenge the dominant materialist paradigm. They reveal that our understanding of reality is extremely limited, the cosmos is more mysterious than we have imagined, there are other intelligences all about some of which seem able to reach us. Consciousness itself may be the primary creative force of the universe, and our knowledge of the physical properties of this world is far from complete.The emerging picture is a cosmos that is an interconnected harmonic web, vibrating with creativity and intelligence, in which separateness is an illusion.”

What these scientists don’t yet realize however, is that the ‘vortex’ areas are doorways between dimensions. They believe according to their science that the doorways could and should be there and yet haven’t accepted the reality that the doorways are there. The bizarre and bewildering events at these sites represents nothing less than a physical interaction between dimensions. At each of these sites one finds very strange electromagnetic energy fields. Physicists believe that other dimensions are very real and that it is entirely possible that beings exist in those dimensions. They also believe that the only thing separating dimensions is an electromagnetic membrane. What is occurring at these vortex sites is that the unusual electromagnetic energies at these sites caused by the underlying geology causes a thinning or opening in the membrane allowing for momentary or intermittent interaction between our dimension and others. This is something the United States Military must be aware of and also must consider a threat in some manner, how else can we explain their presence at each and every location as well as their desire to buy up the land on which these sites now rest? It is though they have posted a guard at each of the ‘doors’ to monitor the activity and to somehow perhaps combat it. The wide array of parallel and differing paranormal activity reported at these sites fits perfectly with what these scientists describe an interaction of this sort would be like.

In Paulides newest work regarding the Missing 411 phenomenon, he focuses on the fact that many of the cases have occurred in areas that posses so called 'Devil Names'. These areas include names like 'Devil's Den', 'Devil's Lake', 'Devil's Canyon', 'Mt. Diablo', etc. This fact struck a major chord with our research and is identical to the research of one of the world's most renown cryptozoologist, named Loren Coleman. In Coleman's well researched book 'Mysterious America', he discusses the fact that many types of paranormal activity are always associated with places that have historical 'Devil' names and that, in fact, these places all earned their names because of the observed paranormal activity by the local populations who in times past equated it with the work of the Devil. In Appendix 5 of Coleman's 'Mysterious America' one can find a complete list of these names and places as well as the observed paranormal activity. This fact and the fact that many of the missing 411 cases also have occurred in these same areas is far too much of a coincidence for the P.I.A. to accept as random possiblity. In December of 2014 Paulides was interviewed on Veritas radio and stated that a new pattern seems to have emerged with his research is that at the same time that some of the people vanished, he also discovered that there had been either vanishing airplanes or ships that had occurred that same day in the Bermuda Triangle. This fact almost guarantees that what we are dealing with is an interdimensional bleed through in areas that have underlying geographic topography which produce strong electromagnetic fields. Our theory is thus: The Woodward effect, also referred to as a Mach effect, one of at least three predicted Mach effects, is part of a hypothesis proposed by James F. Woodward in 1990. The hypothesis states that transient mass fluctuations arise in any object that absorbs internal energy while undergoing a proper acceleration. Harnessing this effect could generate a thrust, which Woodward and others claim to measure in various experiments. If proven to exist, the Woodward effect could be used in the design of spacecraft engines of a field propulsion engine that would not have to expel matter to accelerate. Such an engine, called a Mach effect thruster (MET), would be a breakthrough in space travel. So far, no conclusive proof of the existence of this effect has been presented. Experiments to confirm and utilize this effect by Woodward and others continue.

According to Woodward, there are at least three Mach effects theoretically possible: vectored impulse thrust, open curvature of spacetime, and closed curvature of spacetime. The first effect, the Woodward effect, is the minimal energy effect of the hypothesis. The Woodward effect is focused primarily on proving the hypothesis and providing the basis of a Mach effect impulse thruster. In the first of three general Mach effects for propulsion or transport, the Woodward effect is an impulse effect usable for in-orbit satellite stationkeeping, spacecraft reaction control systems, or at best, thrust within the solar system. The second and third effects are open and closed spacetime effects. Open curved spacetime effects can be applied in a field generation system to produce warp fields. Closed curve spacetime effects would be part of a field generation system to generate wormholes.

The third Mach effect is a closed curve spacetime effect or closed timelike curve called a benign wormhole. Closed curve space is generally known as a wormhole or black hole. Prompted by Carl Sagan for the scientific basis of wormhole transport in the movie Contact, Kip Thorne developed the theory of benign wormholes. The generation, stability and traffic control of transport through a benign wormhole is only theoretical at present.

This is important because the Earth is also experiencing 'Transient Mass Fluctuations', as it travels through space, this in turn is causing stress in the underlying rock strata in various geographical areas where there are an unsusal number of missing persons cases. This rock strata contains very large deposits of quartz crystal, which when stressed causes the generation of very strong Electromagnetic fields. These fields are 'activated' at different times and places depending on external space/time factors which produce the Mach effect. When these fields are generated then they can cause a 'benign wormhole' to form allowing for travel between dimensions. It is our contention that not only are the wide array of paranormal activity associated with these areas the result of momentary interaction between dimensions but that the high number of missing persons cases so eloquently researched by Paulides can also be attributed to this scientific mechanism. The book 'Hunt for the Skinwalker' holds many important clues in this line of research and we at the P.I.A. believe that we could, in fact, be witnessing something developing which is far, far more disturbing once the Macro implications of these findings are contemplated.

Frances
11th August 2015, 20:56
In December of 2014 Paulides was interviewed on Veritas radio and stated that a new pattern seems to have emerged with his research is that at the same time that some of the people vanished, he also discovered that there had been either vanishing airplanes or ships that had occurred that same day in the Bermuda Triangle. This fact almost guarantees that what we are dealing with is an interdimensional bleed through in areas that have underlying geographic topography which produce strong electromagnetic fields.

I find the above information, which is taken from the article on Jc Johnsons Facebook page very interesting and startling, to think there is a link between the dissapearences at The Bermuda Triangle and the National Forests.
Frances.

jimmer
11th August 2015, 21:11
In December of 2014 Paulides was interviewed on Veritas radio and stated that a new pattern seems to have emerged with his research is that at the same time that some of the people vanished, he also discovered that there had been either vanishing airplanes or ships that had occurred that same day in the Bermuda Triangle. This fact almost guarantees that what we are dealing with is an interdimensional bleed through in areas that have underlying geographic topography which produce strong electromagnetic fields.

I find the above information, which is taken from the article on Jc Johnsons Facebook page very interesting and startling, to think there is a link between the dissapearences at The Bermuda Triangle and the National Forests.
Frances.

good catch, frances.
pretty spooky, indeed.

and this correlation comes from a rational ex-cop.

paulides' investigation of this mystery is only in the first phase.

what should be his next steps?

I vote: remote viewing becomes a staple of initial police work,
as close to the disappearance as possible.

jimmer
12th August 2015, 19:48
UPDATE

turns out it's believed that the child did simply wander off and got lost:

Jerold Joseph Williams was found fully clothed with “no obvious external injuries.”
No foul play is suspected in his heartbreaking death. (http://www.inquisitr.com/2328267/jerold-joseph-williams-5-year-old-likely-perished-on-first-night-missing-no-foul-play-suspected/)


http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Jerold-Joseph-Williams-missing-boy-665x385.jpg

here's david paulides' response to the discovery:

David Paulides
I don't remember a missing person case that was ever under such a cloud of secrecy.
Jerold Williams appears to have been found in a lake.
The Coconino County sheriff's office is stating that they are having trouble identifying the body,
after being missing 5 days, sounds unusual.
Couldn't they ID the body by the clothing he was wearing?
Or, was he found naked?
They state that he was found in a lake, where?
No location given, no details of the find, no name of who found him, other then it was a volunteer.
They are quick to say he wasn't abducted, but reluctant to say, where, when, why and how.
I'm upset at the local AZ media for not demanding basic answers from officials.

(all from JC Johnson's FB page)

Divine Feminine
12th August 2015, 21:25
I need to catch up here, but wanted to say, I'm glad you posted about Jerold. I saw this yesterday and found the article on his discovery weak and lacking any information. I was hoping maybe David might know more, but apparently not. I get there could be worm holes and inter-dimensional shifts, but one question that seems to pop up in my head...since when did worm holes become gender specific? Cause it seems like a lot of males are disappearing more than females. Be back hopefully in a few days.

jimmer
13th August 2015, 17:27
interesting, isn't it?

the newspaper account of the child's discovery
is being questioned by paulides.

the newspaper's accounting (from the authorities, I presume)
says the child was fully clothed and found 20' from the road.
the body was first seen from a passing vehicle.

paulides questions all of this.
he says the body was found in a lake.
he questions whether the child was fully clothed.

I wonder what gives?

jimmer
14th August 2015, 19:30
okay, sports fans, Sasquatch Ontario is back up.

if you've been missing mike's startling video reports,
nows the time to immerse or re-immerse. (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCDa_fzzLLz5qePU97w_8Og)

like this classic:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFkjyTvai80
turns out that mike has eliminated many of 'his' video to appease
the cottage gang. looks like the 'may 10 vocalization comparisons'
video is one of them.

jimmer
15th August 2015, 19:36
FLASH

david paulides and crew made their 'over' goal.

now we can look for pro CGI and a custom sound track sometime next year. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1032329905/missing-411-the-movie?ref=newest)

Frances
15th August 2015, 20:29
As documentary filmmakers we believe strongly in clear lines of communication. As such we will keep you regularly informed as to the status of our film.
The Missing 411 Movie will face the typical challenges associated with producing a feature length film -- we expect anything from the NSA hacking us to acts of God interfering with our shooting schedule. No need to fear! We are offsetting these risks with production insurance, contingency plans, and a production team with years of experience.

One of our biggest challenges is coordinating schedules. We only have a few months to shoot and, as anyone who has filmed a feature length documentary will tell you, that is not very much time. We’re going to do our best to coordinate everyone’s availability, from actors to the family members who have lost loved ones. We are putting our victim’s stories above all else and ask you to be patient with us so that we can portray as accurate a picture as possible.

Film festival season is year round, and we are aiming for first of the year submissions. However like all projects, it is up in the air as to whether or not we will make this deadline or if they will accept us as an entrant.

The good news is that there are film festivals all year! This means there is a possibility that we might not be able to get you a copy of the film until after it premieres at one of these festivals. But we can promise that you will get a copy.

Distribution is always a challenge with low-budget films, but our team is confident that once entered into film festivals, the distributors will feel as passionately about this project as you do.

Well David Paulides and his backers have made it happen.
I will be looking forward to the documentary, as I know many others will too.
Frances.

jimmer
18th August 2015, 18:18
here's JC Johnson's latest.

it's pretty much a rehash of a previous LTV posting on a dogman sighting.
hopefully, JC and Co. will post new information after his investigation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1DRdDUBoUA

jimmer
19th August 2015, 18:04
here's the latest from JC Johnson.

this is a good one.

with JC traveling, 'back at the ranch,' his crew investigates
a 'hairy folk' sighting and what they believe to be its 'habitat.'

for me one of the most interesting aspects is that
JC is busy up in 'canada.'
any connection to mike, I wonder?
all this silence from mike lately means something.
the question is, what?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTsJXIocUMM

Frances
19th August 2015, 19:48
http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/5E3D6AD1-B25B-472F-ACC9-BA8D6559BA10_zpsdxjeifol.png (http://s1287.photobucket.com/user/nicolaR1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/5E3D6AD1-B25B-472F-ACC9-BA8D6559BA10_zpsdxjeifol.png.html)

The rock shelter is amazing, each huge slab is placed with precision, they would know even if the slightest thing was disturbed by humans.
Frances.

jimmer
19th August 2015, 19:56
quit a find indeed. he's got a good crypto-crew.

so, wonder what JC is up to?

jimmer
20th August 2015, 15:38
here's MK Davis and his sidekick august show.

I haven't listened yet, but it appears MK will get into the land of MU.
MU? think, Atlantis II.

two tabs worth of show:

Audio (http://66.49.193.35/ArtistFirst_Bigfoot_Central_2015-08.mp3)

Visuals (http://www.artistfirst.com/Bigfoot2015-08.htm)

http://www.artistfirst.com/bfc%20-%20Puma%20Punku%20as%20the%20Spanish%20found%20it. jpg

jimmer
20th August 2015, 16:47
behold, the long lost dynasty of MU –
inhabited by giant, hairy, psychic beings.

http://www.aliadventures.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Easter-Island-Moai-heads-2a.jpg

easter island heads.

http://www.artistfirst.com/bfc%20-%20Migration%20route%20through%20Amazonian%20sea.j pg

Atlantis was a colony of MU. incredible.