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17th May 2015, 07:37
I very much enjoyed reading this article and although hard to swallow it fully, am interested in others feelings about it, especialllly around is this the real Putin.


17th May 2015, 09:24
interesting Putin .... never mind

17th May 2015, 09:25
well ... putin never mind

17th May 2015, 15:15
Wow, these are two important articles for all Americans to read. They certainly confirm my opinons.
Let's hope the citizenry votes with their hearts and not their social engineered hate in 2016.

17th May 2015, 17:12
The only way that the US and its diehard allies will be able to stay relevant in the future is by changing our course of direction and becoming more cooperative with these countries and by developing more industry and a higher standard of living at home.

They are looking at long-term, permanent growth, instead of just maximizing profit for the next 3 months at any cost, and that is what our industries and corporations need to do as well. We need sustainable growth, no more back door deals, no more aggression, and we need to kick all of the criminals out of power.

17th May 2015, 23:36
mmm putin .... never mind

19th May 2015, 05:01
Thankyou, always learning :chrs:

19th May 2015, 05:22
Aerated now for something completely different. I've gotten some great feedback about CBC Radio "Ideas" episodes, and since I logged in and saw this topic, I thought it might be really relevant for you to listen to two of these episodes seeing as they provide two very clear, two very different ways of exploring the topic.

The first: Which really doesn't say much about Putin but does say VERY much about the last days of the Soviet Union:


"The Lionel Gelber Prize recognizes the world's best non-fiction book which deepens public debate on significant public issues. Serhii Plokhy is this year's winner, for his book The Last Empire - The Final Days of the Soviet Union. Now at Harvard, Serhii grew up in the USSR and was taught that socialism could never fail. He joins host Paul Kennedy in conversation to explain how and why the seemingly impossible happened.

In The Last Empire Gelber Prize winner Serhii Plokhy writes about how American President George H.W. Bush and Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev had built a mutual trust on not going to war and how that relationship played out in the final months of the Soviet Union.

From the end of World War Two in 1945 both the Soviet Union and the United States had been increasing their nuclear arsenals.

In 1947 a group of atomic scientists who were concerned about the likelihood of nuclear war came up with the idea of the Doomsday Clock. The closer they set the clock to midnight, the more likely the possibility of nuclear war. A group of scientists set the time on the clock based on their interpretation of world events."

The second is something I think people interested in the cult of Putin (or as we say as of late in Canada, Poutine), is a really VERY interesting debate.


"How should the West deal with Putin's Russia? By isolation or by engagement? In a Munk Debate, journalist Vladimir Pozner and historian Stephen Cohen argue for engagement, while political dissident Garry Kasparov and journalist Anne Applebaum contend that isolation is the only workable policy.

"Be it resolved the West should engage, not isolate Russia" - Highlights from the latest Munk Debate: The West vs Russia

"It's not about isolating Russia. It's about isolating Putin's regime, which is a dangerous virus. You don't engage the virus. It needs to be contained." - Garry Kasparov

"What's the alternative? Our opponents say it is to isolate Russia. They mean to weaken, destabilize and carry out regime change, as if they could, in Russia." - Stephen F. Cohen

Arguing for the resolution:

Vladimir Pozner, Russian journalist and author, host of weekly current affairs program on Russia's largest television network.

Stephen F. Cohen, professor emeritus of Russian Studies at both Princeton and New York University, and author of numerous books on Russia and the Soviet Union.

Arguing against the resolution:

Garry Kasparov, former world chess champion turned political activist, chair of New York-based Human Rights Foundation.

Anne Applebaum, Warsaw-based journalist, columnist for the Washington Post, and author of several books about central and eastern Europe."

26th May 2015, 04:20
And/or watch and blend this into your life if able > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3zKwZqfWrY < will go put it on the Matt Kahn thread,imo it is a goodie