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Ria
15th January 2015, 19:57
Best thread by far
:dan::dan::dan::swing::dan:

Sorry over excited

Sooz
16th January 2015, 02:21
Hi, does anyone know if there is an mp3 file of the interview anywhere, I can download to iPod? I've had a good scout around but can't find anything.

Thanks in advance if anyone can point me in the right direction.:)

Sooz

norman
16th January 2015, 02:35
hang on in there sooz I'll make one in about 30 minutes.

Sooz
16th January 2015, 02:50
Hi Norman, I knew it would be you to respond.:smile2: The 'go to man' for all things audio, lol. Thanks heaps!
Sooz
PS: I have tried several times to download a thingy to convert vid to audio , but for some reason it always plays havoc with my comp and end up having to delete the damned thing...:confused::pc:

norman
16th January 2015, 03:02
Here ya go.............


Military Advanced Technology Whistleblower Part 1 ( MP3 audio version )

https://app.box.com/s/7jcgn7f9i9wsuua0cgivb244719bwq3f



Military Advanced Technology Whistleblower Part 2 ( MP3 audio version )

https://app.box.com/s/f28fos6lifaka2wbib51ob8a329nyoaq


There should be a downward pointing arrow near the top right corner. That's the download option.

Sooz
16th January 2015, 03:14
Thank you Norman, you're a star...

GoodETxSG
16th January 2015, 14:34
Here ya go.............


Military Advanced Technology Whistleblower Part 1 ( MP3 audio version )

https://app.box.com/s/7jcgn7f9i9wsuua0cgivb244719bwq3f


There should be a downward pointing arrow near the top right corner. That's the download option.

Wow, Thank you...
I have the Transcript for Interview 1 (Was never meant to be an interview, but a conversation for BR's private research material) on PDF AND the MP3 of Interview 2 that I need to find a place to host/post at... (I need to listen to it real quick to make sure all name references were removed etc... but looks good to go.).

mojo
16th January 2015, 19:52
GoodET I wanted to reiterate how much I value your opinion and hope you stay with TOT as we weather a small squall with another...the credibility is like night & day between the two.

Onceinabluemoon
17th January 2015, 04:05
question is can our astral bodies be abducted while our 3d bodies remain where they are?
Yes, I've had this experience multiple times. Specially when the Draco or Greys have tried to physically abduct me, and the stupid Frog people too. They try to abduct me, and will get my soul / energy / astral body but not my physical body. ****es them off. Just annoys me more than anything.

lookbeyond
17th January 2015, 04:52
Yes, I've had this experience multiple times. Specially when the Draco or Greys have tried to physically abduct me, and the stupid Frog people too. They try to abduct me, and will get my soul / energy / astral body but not my physical body. ****es them off. Just annoys me more than anything.

Hi Onceinabluemoon, are you able to describe how they abduct your astral body?For eg with myself, i was falling asleep one night and each time i closed my eyes a spinning mandala type device appeared and i felt that i was being pulled from my body, i was tempted to let go and allow it but my littly was sick in bed next to me and so didnt want to risk frightening her should something frighten me:shocked:

modwiz
17th January 2015, 20:47
this would open a question of what is reality?
if there is technology to insert false memory,s then who is to say that we are not living out our life in that inserted memory?
the Matrix movie comes to mind.

In the Matrix, the tubes we are hooked up to are TV. That is my take on a metaphor. Living in pods is just creepy film writing, IMO. The Matrix is classic truth, half truth, distortion and total BS. Gaia and Her world are not a simulation. Dream, yes. Synthetic? No. There would be no 3-D reality without a supporting god-dream. IMO.

mojo
18th January 2015, 00:08
In sinzzers thread posted this private video and only wish it happened after acquiring night vision but did my best with HD night shot. When this orb was being filmed it happened at the time a small being humanoid shape peeked around a conifer. Witnessing that being left me awestruck and hoped he would come closer as I sat there, but he did not and disappeared back behind the tree. He had some type of eye apparatus over the face that can only speculate helped him to see at night. So in terms of the orb my suspicion is that it was how the ET traveled to that spot. The larger orb was certainly big enough to hold him. The was a smaller orb about basketball size that showed up closer to me during this film. Another night I watched through binoculars possibly this same larger size orb traveling at a slow speed 7mph over the terrain. It was not lit up but was brass/bronzed metallic colored and seemed to be trying to move in closer to the location. What I noticed about the orb was it reminded me of an orange. With the small pores like the orange rind only they illuminated light out of the small holes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpqnwQyLgJ0

My hypothesis is that military craft would not fly with non-FAA so here is one of the better pieces of ET craft filmed. GoodET have you seen anything like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgzaU81XAMM

blufire
18th January 2015, 21:27
.........................................

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79079-Lessons-learned-on-the-road-home---

A thread posted today from Christine. . . . . very profound . . . . peace to you and us all

Onceinabluemoon
19th January 2015, 22:33
in my experience they definitely do use that, heck they even use the radio active material in our smoke detectors to enter space they've been disinvited from. I had to remove the batteries from all the ones in my house and switch to non radio active based smoke detectors to block them from getting in via that method. Apparently some of the beings that work with the Annunaki and oppositional forces are radio active based and can manifest using Em, Microwave and Nuclear radiation to manifest.

lookbeyond
19th January 2015, 22:52
in my experience they definitely do use that, heck they even use the radio active material in our smoke detectors to enter space they've been disinvited from. I had to remove the batteries from all the ones in my house and switch to non radio active based smoke detectors to block them from getting in via that method. Apparently some of the beings that work with the Annunaki and oppositional forces are radio active based and can manifest using Em, Microwave and Nuclear radiation to manifest.

thats very interesting,lb ps did you happen to see my question to you above Onceinabluemoon? thanks, lb

Onceinabluemoon
20th January 2015, 00:03
Hi Onceinabluemoon, are you able to describe how they abduct your astral body?For eg with myself, i was falling asleep one night and each time i closed my eyes a spinning mandala type device appeared and i felt that i was being pulled from my body, i was tempted to let go and allow it but my littly was sick in bed next to me and so didnt want to risk frightening her should something frighten me:shocked:
They've used a ton of different methods, and in lately stealing my soul parts, well they have crystalline wires in me and implants that just because of the nano technology used and I'm guessing some magic based stuff? They seem to portal out the energy to where ever it is that it goes, soul energy, blood, spinal fluid, root chakra energy, spirit energy etc. But they used to use all kinds of various methods including poking a certain spot in my head and just peeling it out of my body, they've used resonance magnetic stuff, they've used portals, they've used well as varied as you could imagine, and then some. Your experience sounds very much like a Black Ops style. My one friend was attacked by the Cabal using Anubis, and a seal of some sort. The only way we were able to stop that was to smash the seal, give the necromancer a very bloody nose energetically and then capture Anubis and shove him in a "pod" and send him back to Source. Otherwise they would have killed my friend.

I think I might start a thread of my own, I wouldn't want to take over / hijack G's thread. :)

Elbie
20th January 2015, 00:44
I think I might start a thread of my own, I wouldn't want to take over / hijack G's thread.

that would be interesting

best wishes

Onceinabluemoon
20th January 2015, 02:33
I think the diversity of the group here and yet our ability to mostly all get along as friends and colleges with our intellects is a great quality of the TOT family. :)

Ria
20th January 2015, 16:02
I think it would be fine can always check with the One. Or give link, whatever you think is best.

jsb_swampfox
20th January 2015, 16:24
FYI, for those interested,

Interview Part 2 is finished editing and I listened to it last night to make sure it all the right info was edited out. My friend did a wonderful job editing and cleaning up the bad quality audio... the content is very interesting IMHO... Looking for a place to Post/Host the MP3 File so I can share it.

If anyone has any ideas please let me know.

I also do have the transcript for the first Interview on PDF...

I believe you can do it here:
https://soundcloud.com/

Breeze
20th January 2015, 18:22
Okay, thanks for the info on that shared site... Let's see if this works.

This was recorded with Christine (Former PA Moderator) on Nov. 23rd 2014. BR disliked the content very much and did not like at all the mentioning of my good friend David Wilcock and his work. They wanted all of those references removed as well as "Entity Attachment" info removed and references to the name of "Jesus" as well. In the SKYPE conversation they thought the entire thing should be scrapped and they personally take the reigns and do the next interview to control the content.



[B][COLOR="#800080"]Link to page to play from that direct server location...

https://soundcloud.com/lukeskywalker-8/goodetxsg-part2-interview-11232014




I am listening to this right now - thank you for releasing this!
Much love I send both of you GoodET and Christine for doing this interview. Truly appreciated.
Breeze X :smiley hug:

norman
20th January 2015, 20:03
...... to make this interview somehow downloadable?....





It's here:

http://jandeane81.com/threads/5178-Secret-Space-Program-ET-Federation-Delegation-amp-MILAB-quot-Experiencer-quot-GoodETxSG-quot-Q-amp-A-quot?p=841894591&viewfull=1#post841894591

ronin
20th January 2015, 22:24
i had to stop listening at 25.00 min because i was reminded of what i experienced last year and the prayers i sent out.
in dreams and lucid dreaming there where attacks and they where terrifying,no et,s more demon like.
i dont,t know if i posted it here or elsewhere but one night whilste awake all i could see was minitours.
ox blood red and black,they came so close i could see the thickness of their eyelashes and their black eyes.
they where protecting what can be describe of is a giant sack(maggot like) on this sack where little sacks that i presume contained souls it was feeding off.
after a few hours i realised i was observing and they could not harm me.

other attacks would be terrifying lucid dreaming.
still get the odd one that may stay with me for days.

boy i prayed.
i prayed for god to heal my mind,body and soul so i could live the life that we where created for.
i prayed for healing so when healed i could help others.
i prayed to Jesus to speak to god for me.

i feel i had to experience what i experienced to understand what is.

the night terrors calmed,but still have the odd few.

the interesting thing is you experience something,then read or hear about what you have just experienced.
same as when Walter mentioned his story and it was similar to what a friend had just experienced.

ronin
20th January 2015, 22:40
there is a guy in Oz who can remove attachments(sorry forget his name).
but he claims these attachments can come from past lives and we carry them on with us.
hence they have always have been with us as you say.of witch i have heard somewhere before!

ronin
20th January 2015, 23:04
it is said no entity can be stronger than yourself.
this is a law.
but if you take fight upon this entity and lose it can come back twice fold?

Highland1
20th January 2015, 23:26
Once again Good ET, thank you for this very important information.
With regards to entity attachments, I remember a couple of years back just after the first launch of tot, I declared on the forum that I had been told by a wizard that I was carrying 3 entity attachments from previous lives.
The wizard in question who is a practising alchemist and healer asked my permission for him to remove them from me.
At first, I was taken in by these claims but found that the same wizard had made the same claims to two other existing members on this forum. ( You know who you are! )
So I suppose I then shrugged off the idea that any of these claims were nothing other than baloney.
Having said all that, in my case, my main "entity" he claimed, was previously a black magic practising witch who had caged two other entities and have been with me life after life.
The only thing that gives the wizard any credibility in my case, is that in my younger years I had an obsession with practising magic in its supernatural form and have witnessed and experienced situations that are barely believable and so I have told very few people about them.
Some of the older original members here may remember a thread I released on this topic.
In the end, I allowed the wizard to remove my entities ( just in case) and have strangely never experienced those things of high strangeness since, or at least not to that degree.
So I guess I am admitting that thanks to the information you have submitted in part 2, that in fact there is a high likeliness I was actually infected, because shortly after my exorcism, for want of a better description, my awareness and spiritual perception moved on in leaps and bounds.....and without fear.

Thank you once again for helping restore some of my memories and at the same time learn new knowledge GoodET.

Russ

Seikou-Kishi
20th January 2015, 23:55
Soul Contracts, Karma.. Previous Entity Attachments... Are ALL subject to change upon your OWN FREE WILL of the situation. This has been proven in Karmic cycles, Soul Contracts that have been changed on people that are already here... and the banishment of "Entity Attachments" that claim to have come from previous incarnations... It is your own FREE WILL that will determine your future... Not a contract, Karma or some entity that claims sovereignty over you from a previous life attachment...

People will do anything to escape the idea that they have a choice. It is part of a victim mentality down here. It's not their fault, it's karma or it's hateful spirits. It's never them for allowing it. What you tolerate continues, and toleration of anything is condonation even if it is a begrudging condonation.

"Poor me, I'm powerless" is so much easier for them to say than "I haven't done anything about it yet. If I am wretched enough, perhaps the universe will be so overcome with pity it'll do it for me."

Edit: the universe will never do that. It won't disempower you no matter how much comfort this would provide (or how much distess it would solve). The victim complex can't be anything other than barking up the wrong tree.

Highland1
21st January 2015, 00:11
i had to stop listening at 25.00 min because i was reminded of what i experienced last year and the prayers i sent out.


boy i prayed.
i prayed for god to heal my mind,body and soul so i could live the life that we where created for.
i prayed for healing so when healed i could help others.
i prayed to Jesus to speak

Jesus is still one if the greatest spiritual teachers imho Ronin,

even if he was just another Good Et. :smile2:

Russ

ronin
21st January 2015, 00:25
People will do anything to escape the idea that they have a choice. It is part of a victim mentality down here. It's not their fault, it's karma or it's hateful spirits. It's never them for allowing it. What you tolerate continues, and toleration of anything is condonation even if it is a begrudging condonation.

"Poor me, I'm powerless" is so much easier for them to say than "I haven't done anything about it yet. If I am wretched enough, perhaps the universe will be so overcome with pity it'll do it for me."

Edit: the universe will never do that. It won't disempower you no matter how much comfort this would provide (or how much distess it would solve). The victim complex can't be anything other than barking up the wrong tree.

to recognise that you have become a unwilling victim of decisions not made by yourself is empowerment.
knowing your empowerment,being aware of choice and allowing to shed and move on.

the good thing and the scary thing is more and more people are validating their and others experiences.

who can you talk to without sounding crazy?
who can you trust?

the prayer i mentioned i mentioned to Cearna.
the parasites i mentioned to Seikou-Kishi.but stopped because i was unsure.

trust is important.

Seikou-Kishi
21st January 2015, 01:11
to recognise that you have become a unwilling victim of decisions not made by yourself is empowerment.

No. Nobody is ever "an unwilling victim". There are people to whom things happen, sure. These people are not victims unless they decide to feel like one. Do you know what "patience" means? It means the quality of being one to whom something is done or to whom something happens. A "patient" is the recipient of an action — the direct object of a transitive verb. If I said "I love you", "I" would be the agent, the doer, and "you" would be the patient, the one to whom something is done.

"Victim" is descended from an old and almost extinct root meaning "a thing set aside, sacred, taboo, accursed". It denoted the sacrifice in Roman religious ritual. You can be a "patient" in that things happen to you, but becoming a victim is a matter of choice; it is an attitude to what happens. Being "patient" doesn't mean enduring something less severe, it means enduring it in a better manner, by having patience. That certainly doesn't mean letting something happen — by no means. What you tolerate continues. Toleration is implied consent.

Refusing to be a victim doesn't mean nothing will ever happen to you again, it means you will deal with things that happen differently. You will preserve your dignity. And actually, you will find, the better you preserve your dignity in trying times, the more able you will feel to endure them.



knowing your empowerment,being aware of choice and allowing to shed and move on.

Precisely: being aware of choice. Your choice. A patient or "undergoer" experiences something, a victim transforms this into a plea for pity. That is the choice.


who can you talk to without sounding crazy?
who can you trust?

the prayer i mentioned i mentioned to Cearna.
the parasites i mentioned to Seikou-Kishi.but stopped because i was unsure.

trust is important.

True. Trust is important. If you do not trust me, I would certainly not attempt to convince you to. I have only ever seen one kind of person try to force or accelerate a feeling of trust, and that has been one who would abuse that trust. I will help, within my ability, those who wish it and who come to me, but I will not ask anybody to go beyond their will or persuade them to trust where they are not inclined. That would be an insult to your spiritual sovereignty far in excess of any good my help might provide, thus it is unambiguously both a utilitarian and a deontological vice — and, moreover, it is contrary to my own will to usher you by persuasion to a standing of lesser empowerment.

Breeze
21st January 2015, 11:07
Hi GoodET,

Thank you so very much for allowing this interview to be downloaded!

At present I have only listened to your entire interview once, yet intend to re-listen to this again and also take advantage of the useful rewind button in certain places. What you share helps me to clarify and confirm a number of experiences and knowledge I have arrived at independently – this is all purposeful good and very much appreciated. :magic:,

I was particularly inspired when you spoke about remote viewing your ‘light body’ observing the multitudes of orbs of different frequency resonance and how your astute perception and intuition was able to detect the orb that was ‘out of place’. For me personally, this is a revelation of seeing the unobvious obvious that I had not quite pieced together until I heard you briefly speaking about this in your older forum thread. I am joyed to now have listened to the entire conversation you had with Christine on this matter and hearing the process you went through to liberate yourself of this ‘unwanted hitchhiker’ and from this will-full conscious act, how this has speeded up your own spiritual reconnection, unfoldment and expansion of Self. Beautiful – thank you for sharing your personal inner journey – I am sure it will help many others in their own unique spiritual awakenings.

What has become clear to me is how vitally important it is to re-remember our greater abilities such as to observe our light body from a clear neutral observer perspective. In the Future, I can see such lessons taught to children about their different energy/etheric bodies; promoting an awareness that is conscious beyond the physical body that can observe and can keep a check as to what is going on with their light body, so that entity attachments or other types of unwanted interference are nipped in the bud immediately. Such will become a normal act like breathing. The consequence of such will elevate Evolution’s progression exponentially – imo, this is very exciting and one of the cutting edges towards enlightenment! :sun:




I hope you do not mind, I would like to share in brief something that confirms/backs-up your own experience/observation of the light body being multiples of orbs. I thought this might be useful for the many readers/listeners (including myself) who lack the military training of remote viewing, (and I suspect many of such techniques you were personally taught are deemed classified). I know there are a number of members here on TOT who are ‘out of body experiencers’ - this imo is another way to arrive at seeing one’s light body.

In 2002, I unwittingly made a most ‘fortuitous mistake’ while inducing a self controlled out of body experience that allowed me to ‘observe’ the details of my Light Body. Laying down my physical body in my bed, I began the wilful focus process of ‘conscious exit’…………… Next I found myself lying downstairs on my settee (lower Astral body/Inferred) and ‘mistook’ my Astral body and environment to be my physical body/reality, instantly thinking I had failed to ‘exit’; so I repeated the wilful focus process of ‘exit’…………………………….. This time I popped out quite quickly (less personality resistance), finding myself standing in what looked similar to my sitting-room, however there were differences in form and energy. For the first time ever in my o.o.b.e.’s I had a sudden out of the blue curiosity to ‘see’ what I looked like, so gazed into the large mirror over my fireplace. To my amazement I saw a radiant body of light that was made up of millions of light orbs – I watched in awe, my light body beheld a Universe of conscious life within it. This experience had a profound life changing effect on me in so many ways.

I have never thought until now of repeating this process – but after listening to your experience and the profoundness it has had in your life, I can see the mighty benefits of being able to ‘nip things in the bud’ in regards to hitchhikers etc ‘before’ they settle in…………. to me this makes absolute sense.

Reflecting on the experience I share above, I intuit and also pure reason that I would need to tweak this process, as in the out of body experience I was still ‘BEing’ my light body, observing through my light body mindstate, and to reach clarity would require that I ‘raise’ my conscious spin to engage with my Observer perceptive that is ‘beyond/above’ the light body spin of frequency in order to get a clearer picture/viewpoint/understanding of what is actually occurring to my light body. (If I wish to see a panoramic view of the valley, I have to walk up the mountain.) Smile.

GoodET, if you have anything you would like to add…………………. Or better stll, if you are able to share any tips or reflections you have arrived at from your own process of liberation – I am all ears. :cool:

Love & Blessings Breeze X :smiley hug:

Radial
21st January 2015, 22:35
"In the name of Jesus I banish all entities that are attached to my body mind and spirit. I close all portals or entrances into or out of my body-mind complex. I banish them from my family, the realm of my family, and from my home."

Jesus Magick!

ronin
21st January 2015, 22:38
"In the name of Jesus I banish all entities that are attached to my body mind and spirit. I close all portals or entrances into or out of my body-mind complex. I banish them from my family, the realm of my family, and from my home."

Jesus Magick!

tried a similar prayer,may have to fine tune it!

Highland1
21st January 2015, 22:55
Breeze,

I cannot tell you how wonderful it feels to have your incredibly poetic, feminine and yet licensed grace to this forum once more, in only a way that you can.

In a predominantly masculine world, your words remind us that Sophia is our teacher and brings to us an air of beauty in a faery like essence that males cannot comprehend or reproduce in your lyrically expertised feminine format.

All I can say is that your personal orbs will probably reflect all the colours of the rainbow, if not, then fear not, as those who don't belong will most likely castigate them selves.

Welcome back

Russ. x

The One
22nd January 2015, 18:29
So, how about forming a meditation group on here to enhance and focus our mass conscience and intent to create a positive timeline and more desirable reality? I have also thought about putting together a pocket book of truth explaining key aspects of our history and main truths from about the 1900's.

Great idea you can do this here http://jandeane81.com/group.php

Breeze
23rd January 2015, 09:41
The power of healing (returning harmony to mind body and spirit) imo arrives in many, many ways.

For some, healing arrives from swimming in the Ganges, others the Nile, others the holy waters at Lourdes; others find powerful healing by drinking from a Pagan sacred spring.

Whether this is due to the waters being truly sacred/holy or a consequence of Morphic Fields created from collective belief – does it really matter? It does not negate that a ‘healing’ occurred that was beneficial and liberating to the person who sincerely wanted such. :thup:

Please let’s not go down a circular debate on what belief or which form is deemed the holiest – at the end of the day it boils down to personal choice of what works for each individual.

Sharing is purposeful, we can grow together……………. Circular debates imho only perpetuates more separation.

Written in love for this OP thread to continue on topic.
Blessings Breeze X :smiley hug:

Elbie
23rd January 2015, 09:56
The power of healing (returning harmony to mind body and spirit) imo arrives in many, many ways.

For some, healing arrives from swimming in the Ganges, others the Nile, others drink the holy waters at Lourdes; others find powerful healing by drinking from a Pagan sacred spring.

Whether this is due to the waters being truly sacred/holy or a consequence of Morphic Fields created from collective belief – does it really matter? It does not negate that a ‘healing’ occurred that was beneficial and liberating to the person who sincerely wanted such. :thup:

Please let’s not go down a circular debate on what belief or which form is deemed the holiest – at the end of the day it boils down to personal choice of what works for each individual.

Sharing is purposeful, we can grow together……………. Circular debates imho only perpetuates more separation.

Written in love for this OP thread to continue on topic.
Blessings Breeze X :smiley hug:


that's a super helpful reminder


Excuse my Jesus Magik remark. I actually think it is a worthy mantra and technique to INVOKE the Elemental energy in the name, Jesus, as you found, some entities might be programmed to hate that energy. It's like an antivirus.

I also consider that some entities 'act' like they hate Jesus energy, to try to hook you to the Christian Mental Complex.

Don't be so paranoid (oh never mind, I don't know you).

Questions:
1) why do yo YOU think your Jesus invocation/prayer worked that day?

2) how do you feel about Masons? Good/Bad?

why not start a separate thread where you might be able to help community and other readers with your alternative experience/understanding. your post makes it sound you are a therapist of some kind . thank you.

Highland1
23rd January 2015, 12:40
that's a super helpful reminder



why not start a separate thread where you might be able to help community and other readers with your alternative experience/understanding. your post makes it sound you are a therapist of some kind . thank you.

I think that is a great idea Elbie.
Those of us who know Breeze knows she has had vast experiences that are profound in many ways!

I for one, would most certainly subscribe to such a thread.

Over to you Breeze! :eyebrows:

Russ

Breeze
23rd January 2015, 13:52
Hello Highland1

The second quote in Elbie's post was 'Radial', I believe it was 'he/she' that Elbie was referring to as a theropist?
For some reason Radial's name did not come up properly on Elbie's quote.
Just wanted to be clear, the second quote are not my words.
:group hug:


Excuse my Jesus Magik remark. I actually think it is a worthy mantra and technique to INVOKE the Elemental energy in the name, Jesus, as you found, some entities might be programmed to hate that energy. It's like an antivirus.

I also consider that some entities 'act' like they hate Jesus energy, to try to hook you to the Christian Mental Complex.

Don't be so paranoid (oh never mind, I don't know you).

Questions:
1) why do yo YOU think your Jesus invocation/prayer worked that day?

2) how do you feel about Masons? Good/Bad?




why not start a separate thread where you might be able to help community and other readers with your alternative experience/understanding. your post makes it sound you are a therapist of some kind . thank you.

THANK YOU to whoever sorted out the double post!

Highland1
23rd January 2015, 15:59
I do apologise about the mix up Breeze.

Russ

Elbie
24th January 2015, 20:07
-----"het" mind set over time from my observations and the documentation of what has been observed in countless thousands of "People".



why put people in inverted commas?

----
post update:

offended :hilarious: no..i am relieved that my strong sense is validated by what you are saying in your above post.

in late august 2009 i collected a coherent transmission MOST CLAEARLY, it was unmistakable. except, the content was so wrong, badly wrong . i laughed and laughed thinking whoever is committing this got their profiling wrong. i just do not fit into that category and remember thinking how dared they and many other angry thoughts crossed my mind.. all the while i got most curious about finding out what this could have been - so audacious , so outlandish. i completely rejected the content of the transmission on grounds that it was someone's attempt to get at someone else and that i merely collected it by some mistake.

i began to read and read (articles on electronic harassment) and found things similar to what you are recapping here too. only, at the time i wasn't putting it down to AI - i didn't know of it..i thought it was some agency's intent to get at someone that's not me, or some group that fit a profile which wasn't mine.
i am not a bible buff and my parents allowed for super accommodating upbringing with no moralistic pressures ie. i was the last person you may conclude to expect a message from anywhere "above". i am too willful for that besides.. just not a candidate. i had just got a new job i liked/still do and was going super happy to be receiving missionary messages.

my conclusion since that time remains the same: whatever is playing any messages, words, straight into your mind, bypassing your auditory channels is tech., advanced AI, whatever, but not yours and certainly not divine..

* i am now discovering about a greater agenda of the technology

in case you are experiencing it, don't fall for it. reject it as it's not yours.

ronin
24th January 2015, 23:17
hello goodet.
people have memory,s.
then they have dreams.
then they can have a memory of a dream.

then there are false inserted memory's such as screen memory,s to hide the truth.

but without recall or total recall how would one differentiate the true memory!
dreams can become so powerful that they do affect our waking life.

i suppose what i am asking is i have a few memory,s of dreams from very young concerning..unseen bases and alien craft.
funny how these dreams have always stayed!

DivinelyImmortal
27th January 2015, 11:26
Thank you, GoodETxSG, for your concise answer to my long-winded question. Since "no 'list' of events or incidents has been provided" and since "some of the things mentioned above are indeed what are expected", it appears that anything is fair game, meaning both natural and man-made events.

After giving more thought to all of this, I've come to believe that we may need both types of events, i.e., man-made events will directly educate the masses about our evil controllers, perhaps including the illusion of money being revealed through a massive economic collapse, whereas natural events, such as a CME or EMP, will indirectly educate the masses about the vulnerability of an infrastructure that was deliberately poorly designed and deliberately poorly maintained, thanks again to our evil controllers.

However, I assume that the time line we are on is somewhat malleable (as all time lines are?), meaning that it is still subject to the collective and changing consciousness/spirituality of Humanity. To that end, let's hope that Humanity starts waking up, and fast, so that the lessons we still need to learn may be less severe in nature and scope.

I respect and appreciate the fact that you avoid speculation, GoodETxSG, so please don't feel any need to comment on my speculations.

Ria
29th January 2015, 08:25
TI, targeted individuals.
When I'm tired I can't remember what all the letters stand for......

lookbeyond
29th January 2015, 22:50
Hello DivinelyImmortal, are you able to describe the psychic attack upon yourself in the thread, if not are you able to describe to me in pm?

Thankyou, lookbeyond

DivinelyImmortal
29th January 2015, 23:21
Hello DivinelyImmortal, are you able to describe the psychic attack upon yourself in the thread, if not are you able to describe to me in pm?

Thankyou, lookbeyond

Thanks for the question, lookbeyond, but I prefer not to make available any feedback to whomever/whatever made that attack, as I believe that that information could be used to more finely tune their attacks and/or to evaluate the effectiveness of their attack. Additionally, I don't want to give it any more of my energy. I hope you will understand.

DivinelyImmortal
30th January 2015, 00:04
Thank you for the feedback and additional info, GoodETxSG. It's very interesting to hear that you've experienced some "interesting incidents" recently, as well. Obviously, some people are getting very nervous about certain truths coming out.

It's also interesting to hear how you have been so thoroughly vetted, proving you to be a very credible individual. Also, having threats made and/or receiving harassment is its own kind of validation, isn't it?

lookbeyond
30th January 2015, 22:41
Thankyou DivinelyImmortal, this is an important point, re waking up the masses, yet not inciting fear.

Where do we draw the line? I face this in my daily life as i seek to carefully educate my children. The 2 eldest (teenagers) are very "awake" and from conversations we hav some of their peers at school are waking also.

My childrens father unfortunately prefers to remain fast aselep and refers to my reading and conversations as "filling their heads with paranoia and s*#t",lb

modwiz
30th January 2015, 23:33
Hi GoodETxSG, I guess Saturn is a hot potato.

I'd still like to know the truth behind why it's the most screamingly obvious anomaly in the whole solar system.
Yes, Saturn. Lord of the Rings.:eyebrows:

DivinelyImmortal
1st February 2015, 15:21
GoodETxSG,

Supporting your claim that "other" planetary bodies are coming into our solar system, it sure appears that that is what we are seeing in this image of the Sun:

http://i60.tinypic.com/2054dnn.jpg

The outpouring energy is obviously being deflected by "something" that has a spherical nature to it, but otherwise remains cloaked. I have noticed this anomaly for the past couple of days.

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Add'l info:

This apparent "deflection" of the Sun's energy is still occurring (a.m. of Feb 3rd):

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/c2/1024/latest.html

I read in another forum this morning, with respect to this anomaly, that we are being protected from giant CME's.

If one can accept the idea of enormous cloaked planets and/or enormous cloaked "ships", that certainly seems plausible.

Breeze
2nd February 2015, 15:28
I wish you all the very best GoodET in your meeting with this individual researcher - may it be very productive and also inspiring and fun for both of you! :h5:

norman
4th February 2015, 20:42
http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag289/mclies2/SATURN_zpsq45mdzxq.jpg


:nails::popc:

lookbeyond
4th February 2015, 22:25
Hi Norman, hav you seen Saturn thru a telescope?-- i hav and it looks surreal!

Breeze
5th February 2015, 11:15
I understand that for many humans the concept of Earth humans living in small colonies on the Moon or on Mars (and elsewhere) can be extremely daunting and hard to swallow. Such goes against the consensus party line of what us Earthers have been spoon fed to believe, especially if our beliefs refer to images of the NASA Moon landings etc. Stretching one’s mind beyond the 'tin can' technology is like opening Pandora ’s Box revealing new frontiers way beyond the Earthers permitted ‘out of date’ technology and science education systems.

Once one is able to consider the possibilities that Earthers have ventured further afield into space, an array of questions begin bouncing around in one’s mind like what does their daily lives consist of, how is their society structured etc.

Here is a short quote copied from GoodET’s thread on PA


....Many people expected to take their families to a science fiction heaven to live their lives out on beautiful colonies on exotic planets just to arrive to a 8 x 8 living area for their family and a fascist environment with horrible conditions to live the rest of their lives out in (This is no joke). Those who have had this offer and turned it down were very wise.

I recently watched an excellent most thought provoking movie called ‘Divergent’ set in Earth’s future that covers numerous concepts. One of these concepts is how society is ‘structured’. Referring to the movie’s portrayal of society's organised 'structured system', a little bird told me (paraphrasing), "this is very much how the colonies on Mars are living, having little knowledge outside their own city". The said when pure reasoned makes sense, well at least in my mind – it’s a repetitive sad story of an old agenda where the few want total control over the populace. Fortunately the magician’s repetitive slight of hand tricks are not working so well, people are seeing through the illusions. I so look forward to when we all wake up, grow up and take charge of our own self responsibilities creating our own unique destinies as we BEcome free spirits once more.

The movie for me also has resemblances to the Matrix trilogy, where the main character Tris remembers “this isn’t real”; but this insightful conscious awareness makes her a ‘divergent’ not fitting neatly into the expected structured systems. In order to survive she learns to pretend, faking her way through the holographic assimilation tests to avoid detection because a divergent is deemed by the ruling authorities as a free thinker (type of terrorist) that must be eradicated. Mmmmm, sounds familiar :eyebrows:

Here is a link to the movie for those interested. :smiley hug:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aapCDfOAX-s

Breeze
6th February 2015, 17:47
Hierarchies like that on some of the Colonies that are OWNED by the "Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate Groups" are similar in some cases to this movie. I have watched it previously.

I have been a guest of one of the speakers of the 2015 Conscious Life Expo in LA and will be their guest while they speak and do presentations/are on "Discussion Panels" etc... I will be back online more when I arrive home and will address some questions and comments that have come to my attention. Thank you for the emails as well.


Thank you GoodET for the update, and on your travels................. it sounds like you are having a wonderful time where interesting doors may possibly open - and also a time to sit back and simply 'observe', so you can choose wisely your options.

I wish you all the very best! :tiphat:

Love & Blessings
Breeze :smiley hug:

GoodETxSG
8th February 2015, 00:17
I know there are a lot of opinions fully along the spectrum of feelings towards David Wilcock... That being said if anyone is interested... The Expo I am attending tonight is live streamed...

Secret Space Program Livestream TONIGHT!

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1173-space-program-livestream



http://divinecosmos.com/images/strangestories_asteroid.jpg

In the last four months, our knowledge about the secret space program has at least quadrupled, thanks to the arrival of new insiders. Now, for the first time ever, you can see David's keynote address at the Conscious Life Expo by livestream video!



QUITE A MIND-EXPANDING BODY OF INFORMATION

Extraterrestrials have been visiting and settling on Earth for millions of years.

Functional portals have existed on earth, both natural and artificial, allowing ETs to visit earth humans at various times. These legends have since become myths of phenomena like "fairy rings."

Our own people have had alliances with various ET groups for millennia -- but up until the 20th century it was only a one-way street. They visited us but would not bring us home.

The Germans were the first to secretly develop space travel capability beginning in the 1930s, thanks in part to a newly-minted alliance with certain ET groups that most would consider highly negative.

Once the Germans found out what kind of neighborhood it was, they wanted to side with the toughest kid on the block for protection.



FIVE MILLION YEARS OF HISTORY

It was through this early effort that humanity discovered, firsthand, an incredible secret: Our solar system has been repeatedly colonized by ET groups for at least the last 5 million years.

The oldest groups were the most advanced -- and stood at an astonishing 70 feet in height.

This was not only something we were told, it was something we were able to go out and see -- with the technology we had been given.

Our solar system is littered with ruins of these ancient peoples, called names such as The Progenitors.

They primarily built beneath the surface of moons and asteroids for their own protection -- both against enemies and natural cosmic events as well.

There is an astonishing wealth of highly advanced ancient tech everywhere we look. This is one of the great secrets of our time.



THE "ILLUMINATI" CLAIM TO BE DESCENDANTS OF ONE OF THESE GROUPS

More and more people have come to realize that there is indeed a powerful, worldwide group that calls itself the Illuminati.

Arguably, the greatest secret of the Illuminati is that they consider themselves to be the descendants of certain ET human groups that arrived in the fairly recent past.

Originally, their descendants were the giants -- and the knowledge and scholarship on this subject is growing exponentially thanks to the Internet.

The amount of evidence for giant skeletons -- ranging from a 9-foot group to a 12-foot group to a 25-to-30-foot group -- is quite significant.

Much of it has been suppressed in order for this secretive organization to hide its true nature from the public.

However, thanks to a variety of new leaks, we are learning much more.



WE HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY

This has been a very exciting time. Years can go by with no new insiders of any real significance arriving.

I have always held onto a great deal of information that is not public in order to assess who is real and who is just compiling what they have read online or heard from others.

Sadly, there are an ongoing number of people doing this, including in the present -- and some of them can be quite convincing.

However, when someone starts saying exactly the same things we've heard from as many as five other people, independently, and have never published, that catches our attention.

Once new insiders show up who pass the vetting-out process this extensively, we always feel an urgency to get as much intel out of them as possible, as quickly as possible.

So, between feverishly learning visual FX for our upcoming push into video work, and absorbing as much insider info as possible, we have been very busy. Not a minute's time has been wasted.



LEAKING IT ONSTAGE FOR PROTECTION

So here's what is happening. I am going to leak some of the story in front of a large audience at the Conscious Life Expo for my own protection -- and for your enjoyment.

Once this is done, it will be safe to talk about this as the genie will now be about of the bottle.

In the future this material will find its way onto this site, but for now this is how we have decided to release it -- at the keynote address I am giving at the Conscious Life Expo.

You can order livestream tickets and watch the event -- either while it is happening or for the next 10 days after the fact.

If you can't afford this, remember that we have the number-one show on Gaiam TV, with well over 100 episodes now in the can, and you can see any of them you want on a 10-day free trial at wisdomteachings.com.

I hope to get back to more regular posting and "long form" content creation in the near future!



A BRIEF FIVE-MILLION YEAR HISTORY OF THE COLONIZATION OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM

Dramatic new insider testimony, from the highest levels of the classified world, has finally shed light on the greatest mysteries of who we are, where we came from and how we got here.

After 18 years as a public figure on the internet, David Wilcock has built an extraordinary connection of insiders, including those who worked for many years off-planet in the "Secret Space Program."

Through combining multiple, interlinking testimonials, combined with the groundbreaking history revealed in the Law of One series, it is now possible for the first time to reconstruct the settlement of our solar system.

Learn the epic and incredible story arc that ultimately led to Earth being colonized by extraterrestrial beings -- and the massive wars that wiped out all but a small number of their descendants, who lived on as 12 to 13-foot giants until as recently as the 1700s.

Scientific evidence will be presented as often as possible -- including remarkable NASA photographs suggesting where the ruins of these lost civilizations may still be found.



CLICK HERE TO ORDER THE LIVESTREAM!

[Livestream archived video available for 10 days after event]



MONDAY NIGHT EVENT AS WELL

If you are fairly local to the Los Angeles area, we are also having a post-conference event on Monday night.

Even more of the fascinating body of information we have gathered will be shared at this event -- regarding the ever-controversial subject of Ascension, and whether it will be spontaneous or gradual.

This new insider testimony has very significantly increased the case for the spontaneous ascension model. This is something I will be having far more to say about in the near future.

This event is not part of the Livestream "virtual conference" program.

Here is the description of the post-conference for those who are in the area. We will also be presenting more of this material at the upcoming New Living Expo in San Mateo, California -- near San Francisco -- in late April.



YOUR ASCENSION CAN SAVE THE WORLD

What if there is a plan and purpose for your life? What if that plan and purpose is much more vast, supernatural and fantastic than anything ever seen or heard in mainstream, consensus reality?

What if our world is a vast, spiritual illusion, inviting you to penetrate its mysteries and evolve into an entirely new and higher form of life?

This is not speculation, nor superstition. Join double New York Times best-selling author David Wilcock (divinecosmos.com) on a spellbinding journey of the mind and heart. Learn your true potential – and unmask the villains who have been working for thousands of years to keep you ignorant and terrified.

Over 30 ancient prophecies from around the world revealed that this time in our history is the culmination of a 25,920-year cycle. The events we are seeing on earth are all part of a structured, marvelous process whose purpose is to springboard us into the next level of human evolution.

Quantum “threshold” effects could fundamentally change the nature of reality as we know it – and the mystery begins and ends with you. Simply exposing yourself to this “living information” can be enough to propel you into the truth of who and what you are.

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1173-space-program-livestream

GoodETxSG
8th February 2015, 00:21
http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag289/mclies2/SATURN_zpsq45mdzxq.jpg


:nails::popc:

This is a major topic in tonights live stream conference.... For those who choose not to watch it I will recap the information when I get back into town after the Expo. This is a MAJOR, MAJOR topic that almost needs it's own Thread... You are very correct in Saturn and the anomalies of its rings and on some of its "moons"...

lift the veil
9th February 2015, 11:48
This is a major topic in tonights live stream conference.... For those who choose not to watch it I will recap the information when I get back into town after the Expo. This is a MAJOR, MAJOR topic that almost needs it's own Thread... You are very correct in Saturn and the anomalies of its rings and on some of its "moons"...


This is up on Youtube. No video, just audio.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rikQrNa4jQU#t=149

Breeze
9th February 2015, 14:04
This is up on Youtube. No video, just audio.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rikQrNa4jQU#t=149

Thank you Lift the Veil - I am downloading this right now to listen to with great interest!

lift the veil
9th February 2015, 14:29
I have only got an hour into this talk and he is just now starting to talk about the secret space program...as info.

GoodETxSG
9th February 2015, 15:01
Yes, This is it....

watch/listen to it while you can.

It will be pulled from YouTube very soon.

It is good audio only BUT is it minus all the awesome visuals presented. Including the information on Saturn...

Tonight his talk will be more on the deeper aspects of the CURRENT Secret Space Programs... Including the "Sphere Beings" and the "Blue Avians".

It is well worth getting the live stream when it is available to SEE the visual's presented on both Conferences Days.

It was a very excellent presentation visually... IMHO, :)

lift the veil
10th February 2015, 14:13
As info, I found the below comment from GoodETxSG on his blog post regarding David Wilcock's talk:

GoodETxSGFebruary 8, 2015 at 10:00 AM

This was a VERY informative and nearly 3 hour EVENT! Information was released that has NEVER been released to the public prior! Monday's Live Stream will cover more information about the "Sphere Beings" and the "Blue Avians" and other topics where he left off. I was in the front row and the camera was facing the crowd way more than I thought it would be.

It was also interesting that a "SSP Whistle Blower" that has been doing dozens of interviews was in the audience taking copious notes. There have been a lot of very cool and interesting people at this Conscious Life Expo (15,000 People Attending). It was nice to meet a lot of interesting people and researchers. There is a Spanish Speaking/Latino Event Live Streaming Today at 12/Noon Pacific Time with DW and then the 8 - 10:30 Pacific (Live Stream)...

http://goodetxsg-secretspaceprogram.blogspot.com/2015/02/secret-space-program-livestream-tonight.html#comment-form

Calz
10th February 2015, 15:34
Listened to the audio version ... hoping the video becomes available soon as it sounded like there was a lot to *see*.

For anyone not patient it appears you can still *purchase* the rights for the archive ...



UPDATE 3, SAME NIGHT: ARCHIVE NOW AVAILABLE!

Here is the email we just got from the streaming service:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: SFTS
Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:08 PM
Subject: David Wilcock VOD
To: David Wilcock

Hi David,

The VODs of all of the streamed sessions are now up on streamingforthesoul.tv. The way to get to them is:


1. Log in to streamingforthesoul.tv

2. After log in, customer is on the player page.

3. Click on the "Archives" button which is located above the Chat Box to the right of the player.

4. A list of VODs will be displayed. Scroll to find the David Wilcock VOD.


I apologize for the confusion and I'll put a VOD page up on the site asap with directions how to find them. Also - the way to purchase the VOD is now through the Archives.



If a person purchased the live stream of your session on Saturday night, there will be a green button on your Archive that reads: "Click to play." If they did not or have not purchased it, the green button will read: "Click to Purchase" and they'll be directed through the PayWall.


I will get a page up with clear instructions for people as soon as possible. If you like, when it's posted, I can send you the link to the page.

Sincerely,

SFTS.tv (undefined)

lift the veil
17th February 2015, 14:41
GoodETxSG,

Hello. I recently listened to an interview of a person who has a Ph.D. in counseling and has worked for the past 30 years with victims of mind control. He has seen trauma based/DID mind control, implant based mind control and also psychotronic weapons based mind control. Many of his patients were victims of SRA/NWO groups.

He gave some very interesting details of what he has encountered during his counseling in helping these people break-down their mind control and re-integrate those who have DID.

He said one of his patients with DID had nanotech programming. Her handlers would create NWO alters in her psyche and install nanotech programming which would strengthen the NWO alters and cause them to multiply/make additional NWO alters. This would essentially create an army of NWO alters, pushing themselves to the surface of her consciousness, forcing all of her "normal" alters deep down into her consciousness and lock them into an internal mind prison/dungeon. The NWO alters would then carry out their NWO assignments.

This sort of reminded me of the artificial intelligence you talked about that was infecting people.

Highland1
17th February 2015, 15:14
GoodET, as you predicted, the Wilcock video did not stay on line for long, so is there a likeliness it will be uploaded again in the near future please?

regards

Russ

GoodETxSG
17th February 2015, 15:38
GoodET, as you predicted, the Wilcock video did not stay on line for long, so is there a likeliness it will be uploaded again in the near future please?

regards

Russ

They (Anyone) are not supposed to upload the Audio to Youtube or share it for "Copyright" reasons.

DW and the Conscious Life Expo People have been going after everyone to posts them. One site that has REFUSED to remove the MP3 is below. Most people are downloading it when they find it before it is deleted. It really is hard to make sense of without the visual presentations DW gave...

I have the DVD of the presentation that DW gave me to watch with my wife. It really is much better with the visual presentation.

This site has been asked to remove the MP3 of the event but thus far has refused by "Not Responding"... I personally have asked them to remove the link to my web site but again... Zero Reply/Response...

http://mainerepublicemailalert.com/2015/02/12/live-worldwide-conference/

Highland1
17th February 2015, 18:57
Thank you GoodET.

Regards

Russ

Breeze
23rd February 2015, 20:02
GoodET, thank you for such a riveting informative post!

Read it twice, then again out loud to hubby, and then discussed.

Thank you again, and I look forward to your next update! :thup::smile2:



Due to constant chemtrails this end, I rarely get to see much sky........... so unable to do a night watch; something I greatly miss.

Stoat muldoon
23rd February 2015, 20:29
An excellent assessment GoodET , one I wholeheartedly agree with . I think there is a war going on up there and has been for some time . All these objects falling into our atmosphere are bits of UFO's shot down. Their cover story meteorites and space junk falling back to earth BS .

The reason why they cannot come up with an answer for the video with the escape pod going the other way from the crashing UFO video , is they would have to admit it's just that , an escape pod . It's not rocket science , it's there for all to see .

Tarpan
24th February 2015, 07:21
This overall topic is an extremely complicated and a VERY controversial one indeed.



... and is getting more and more interesting by the minute.

Thank you G for all these new perspectives.

Your anaysis of the current events in your post 197 (http://jandeane81.com/threads/5178-Secret-Space-Program-ET-Federation-Delegation-amp-MILAB-quot-Experiencer-quot-GoodETxSG-quot-Q-amp-A-quot?p=841901992&viewfull=1#post841901992) inevitably make me think of Star Wars.
Interesting times indeed.

Spiral of Light
24th February 2015, 12:09
This new outflow of information (From several highly vetted "Whistle Blowers") is going to cause some major waves of discontent among "Some" while "Others" who have expanded their consciousness and developed their "Discernment Filters" are going to have a lot of work "Discerning" coming up in the near future.

Opening my mind and expanding my consciousness more and more......expanding...expanding. Applying discernment filters. All systems go and ready for more of this outflow of information.

Meanwhile, my heartfelt thanks to you, GoodETxsg, for stepping forward to share these things with those who are open to receive it.

Spiral of Light
25th February 2015, 01:26
[QUOTE=Spiral of Light;841902193]

They very well could be... (Remember, this group's "Relic's" and "Archaeology" are up to 5 Million Years Old and "Sized" for "Humanoids of "Gigantic Proportions"... 3 Different and Distinct Size Ranges of "Giants" have been referenced (And Seen by some of us)... 9 - 11/13 Ft, 26 - 35 Ft and the most mind blowing 75 - 90 Ft in Size"!)

I would have to look into this book to see specifically what you are referencing (I downloaded it, do you have a page number I can research?).

I have a hard copy of the book. In the last chapter (pages 234-250) a description is given of a chamber within the mountains that is protected by some type of energy shield. Researchers figured out a way to get past the shield and into the chamber which contains very large tables upon which are holograms on a variety of subjects from biology to DNA, cosmology, astronomy, religion, etc. An average sized man approximately 6 feet tall had to stand upon a ladder to see the table tops with these holograms upon them.

The details above are in the final chapter, before the Epilogue. I'm not sure if the pages are the same in the PDF version of the book.

Spiral of Light
25th February 2015, 13:05
I have followed with interest the reports that the Smithsonian Institute hid (or destroyed) thousands of skeletal remains of giant humanoids discovered across North America in the 1900's. It seems this was done to protect the chronology of human evolution that was in place at that time.

Just another example of the cover up and destruction of evidence of anything they don't want us to know about.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/smithsonian-admits-to-destruction-of-thousands-of-giant-human-skeletons-in-early-1900s

«There has been a major cover up by western archaeological institutions since the early 1900′s to make us believe that America was first colonized by Asian peoples migrating through the Bering Strait 15,000 years ago, when in fact, there are hundreds of thousands of burial mounds all over America which the Natives claim were there a long time before them, and that show traces of a highly developed civilization, complex use of metal alloys and where giant human skeleton remains are frequently found but still go unreported in the media and news outlets» he explains.

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Breeze
25th February 2015, 18:58
Lift-the-veil, I want to thank you for the excellent mindfull questions you are asking.

I so much appreciate this,

and GoodET's replies back.

A BIG Thank you to both of you. :thup::smiley hug:

I have mentally noted a couple of things that GoodET has said that I wish to come back on, but right now my spare time is focussing on another subject that is also close to my heart, so my absence from this thread posting is purely for this reason.

However, I make sure each day I make time to keep up reading what is happening here on this thread. I personally find it very nourishing promoting food for thought.

Thanks again. :smile2:

Elbie
25th February 2015, 22:40
Spiral of Light; «There has been a major cover up by western archaeological institutions since the early 1900′s to make us believe that America was first colonized by Asian peoples migrating through the Bering Strait 15,000 years ago, when in fact, there are hundreds of thousands of burial mounds all over America which the Natives claim were there a long time before them, and that show traces of a highly developed civilization, complex use of metal alloys and where giant human skeleton remains are frequently found but still go unreported in the media and news outlets» he explain.

thanks for your reminder spiral of light
bucegi mountains instance ties in well with many not so ready available to study historical accounts and remaining not so spoken of artefacts

it would be interesting if GoodEt could find time to read it and report here to what degree is his experience identical to what transpires from 'transilvanian sunrise' book..

thanks again for bringing it up for everyone's attention

GoodETxSG
26th February 2015, 02:52
Disclosure and the Secret History of Our Solar System Radio Show- TONIGHT! (Coast to Coast)

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1174-disclosure-history

http://divinecosmos.com/images/disclosure_w_david_wilcock_450x450.jpg

Is the world going crazy or is it all part of a perfect plan? When it's David talking with George Noory, you already know where it's going. We will discuss the five million-year secret history of our solar system, the space program, Ascension and David's epic new TV show, Disclosure, launching this week!



A REMINDER ABOUT INSIDERS

The interesting accounts I am about to share with you are the result of many ongoing, multi-hour briefings from very highly-positioned insiders.

These are people who work for various "government" (military-industrial complex) groups in what they would call the "Space Program."

These people have repeatedly proven their bonafides through a variety of means.

We have been compiling and cataloging their data, and scientificaly verifying it whenever possible, since this website launched in 1999.

Our circle of trusted contacts keeps growing. There are many contenders who spout disinformation, but there are genuine sources as well.

We have had two major new sources come to the forefront in the last four months, creating a dramatic expansion in the knowledge base.

Hundreds of specific data points have been cross-verified -- information that had never been published on this website or anywhere else, but that other vetted-out insiders revealed independently, over the last 20 years.

The truth is far, far stranger than fiction. For safety, we have held much of this back until the new data can be absorbed, cataloged and integrated.



THINGS ARE GETTING EVER-INCREASINGLY WILD ON THE INSIDE TRACK

Right now there is a war going on in space, directly over our heads. It really heated up in mid-December of last year and is ongoing.

That war is reaching a decisive tipping-point. It appears that it will turn out very favorably for the vast majority of everyone on earth.

In fact, it appears that it is already impossible for the Cabal to win this. Time still has to play out before it is visible to everyone, but the end is almost certain.

Many of the power elite groups on this planet are in a state of complete chaos and turmoil as a result.

Events unfolding on earth could be seen as a "proxy war" between groups of "good guys" or angels and "bad guys" operating in, with and around Earth.

"Good" and "Bad" is obviously a question of your perspective. From the elite Cabal perspective, what is happening to them is very bad.

However, the people who are fighting against the Cabal do very much seem to have humanity's best interests in mind.

This alliance is a combination of earth governments, earth-based factions of the space program, and newly-arrived ETs who mean business.



CLOAKED SHIPS GETTING SHOT DOWN

It appears that major events are about to unfold on earth, involving the exposure and defeat of the Cabal.

This appears to be coming in the form of vastly greater disclosures from the Snowden documents than what we have seen so far, among many other things.

The "good guy" ETs have now enforced a no-fly zone around the earth. Any high-level Cabal people who try to fly out are being shot down.

Their ships are cloaked, but when one of them gets shot down, we hear about epic meteor sightings -- and then the cleanup crews rush in.

There have been a number of very high-profile and unusual "meteors" lately -- including daylight-bright flashes of light, sonic booms and the ground shaking for up to 15 seconds upon impact.

I have been quietly cataloging all of these events, or at least the ones that get publicity -- and will summarize them in later postings.

We also had a major UFO crash occur in just the last few days in Canada, in another epic shoot-down. It is considered a huge mess on the inside track.

Lots of disinfo is being put out about it, including all manner of Photoshopped images -- but the event itself was very, very real.



SO WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON?

There are many secrets -- and many levels of the game that could qualify as the "biggest secret."

One level of "the biggest secret" is the simple fact that there are many different ET human or humanoid groups working in and around the Earth every day.

Some of them look so much like us that they could walk around comfortably and no one would know the difference.

Some of these groups would be positive, or service-to-others, while other groups would be on the negative, or service-to-self spectrum.

The idea of "shapeshifters" is not true, at least in any biological sense. There are technologies that can do this holographically but it is not biological.



PLAYING WITH THE BIG BOYS

Our worldly governments were largely kept out of this greater ET community, as per the ETs' own rules, up until we developed the technology to take us into space.

The Germans achieved this first -- before they even officially became the Nazis in World War II.

All of our secret development of space has followed in the aftermath of this initial series of events.

Although the Nazis lost the war on earth, they did effectively win it in space.

They quickly discovered there were all manner of ETs out there who would attack and shoot down their ships.

In a very sad turn of events, the Nazis cut a deal with the nastiest ETs on the block for protection -- a group of reptilian humanoids called the Dracos.

This group is known in the Law of One series as the Orion Confederacy -- and they do have several systems under their control within that constellation.



THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS LITTERED WITH RUINS

Another level of the "biggest secret" is that our solar system has been actively colonized -- with super-advanced technology -- for at least the last five million years.

The Nazis found advanced ancient ruins in Antarctica, on the Moon and on Mars, and re-occupied them, building them out with new construction while having a healthy head-start from what was already there.

Two and a half weeks ago now, I announced that I was going to be leaking a vast treasure-trove of insider information on this very subject, live on stage at the Conscious Life Expo.

I did not telegraph it until the day of the event itself, for security purposes.



SEISMIC SHOCKWAVES

The scope and depth of formerly-classified info that I revealed in that show has sent seismic shockwaves through the insider community.

The event itself was wildly popular, with a standing-room-only crowd that stretched through five hallways in the hotel before everyone was let in.

This was a tour-de-force of never-before-revealed insider info.

We have already had one person get very aggressively threatened as a result of these leaks -- even though he himself was not responsible for the majority of the information.

I also found out that some of this data was intended for "controlled release" in smaller packets, probably with disinfo included, and this has thrown all of those plans into total disarray.

The streaming video, available now for 45 dollars, also has sold well -- and we anticipate some much-needed funds from it soon enough.

In the future we will open-source this information more and more, and tonight's show is the first step of that process.

In the meantime, you can see the entire conference now by ordering it at https://www.streamingforthesoul.tv/index.php?pageID=47&ref=278469.

The majority of revenue goes straight to helping this work, so if you have the means, please help us out and contribute!



IN THE MEANTIME, TONIGHT'S SHOW...

For the many hundreds of people who have now seen the show (and the hundreds of thousands who listened to illegal bootlegs that were pulled down from the net,) many questions have been raised.

70-foot tall "Progenitors." Stasis beings. The hidden history of the Illuminati. Extraterrestrial ruins all over our solar system. And so much more.

That is what I hope to cover -- at least partially -- in tonight's show. Rather than just re-iterating the same data, we will be expanding upon it.

This is all part of the Disclosure process.



THE SNOWDEN DOCUMENTS -- NOT JUST A THUMB DRIVE

If what I am hearing is true, the Snowden documents are much greater than what we have been led to believe thus far.

The problem is that the NSA had hacked everyone -- including all the alphabet-soup groups, all the military groups, all the defense contractors and all the space program groups.

They committed the one great mistake of information security -- keeping everything in one place.

The actual amount of data is so vast that apparently it took three years of wireless satellite transfer, 24-7, at very high bandwidth, to get it all.

The "USB stick" story is a pleasant distraction from the truth.

All the deeper data is being collated and packaged. It will apparently be dropped on the net. And it will quickly be the end of the Cabal.

Although it may happen in stages, within this data will be epic disclosures about the "space program" that will blow away almost everyone's data who has ever been in the public eye as a UFO researcher -- by leaps and bounds.

Although people I care about could get hurt by my mentioning this at all, it does feel right to move forward and share this with you.

Since "no one will believe it anyway," at least not until the documents come out, what difference should it make?



TONIGHT'S SHOW IS ALSO A VERY PROUD DEBUT

I am very proud to also be officially announcing my new show, DISCLOSURE, on Gaiam TV.

There are already two episodes posted -- interviews I conducted with Graham Hancock and John Anthony West, two of the top scholars in the field of ancient civilizations.

We've been developing this show and interviewing the best people for almost a year now -- but we had to wait until everything was in proper position to launch.

We have interviews coming up with luminaries such as Robert Bauval, Andrew Collins, Laird Scranton, Rupert Sheldrake, Rich Dolan and many more.

Now, if you are a subscriber to Gaiam TV, you can catch a new half hour of Wisdom Teachings every Monday, and a new half hour of Disclosure every Thursday.

It takes a lot of work to host, produce and develop two weekly shows -- not to mention that I am also in almost every episode of Ancient Aliens and also contribute heavily in the research department.

In the future, if insiders want to come forward and be in the show, we now have a quality production that will allow this to happen.



GAIAM TV HAS IMPROVED BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS

Millions have been spent getting Gaiam TV to be the best it can be as a streaming video network.

There are countless hurdles, and the field has become vastly more competitive, making it almost impossible to succeed, since Gaiam got involved in 2011.

In the early days we had some problems with people needing to have Silverlight installed on their computers, and also there were occasional buffering issues.

Now all of that stuff has been worked out, and it is a well-oiled machine. You can get a Roku 3 box for a hundred bucks, new, and watch it on your big-screen TV.

I now have a really cool "mothership" set -- a significant upgrade from the original -- and the picture quality is excellent.

I have already transformed a significant amount of my very best conference material, that people used to pay 295 to see on a 16-hour weekend, into these 100-plus half-hour episodes.

I find it almost impossible to see a movie or TV show anymore that isn't painful, jarring and upsetting to watch -- but I am very proud of the quality of these shows.



EXCLUSIVE OFFER FOR OUR DEBUT: WATCH ALL YOU WANT FOR A MONTH, SPEND ONLY A BUCK!

To help launch the show, Gaiam has created a one-time offer that works for everyone who clicks on this link:

http://www.gaiamtv.com/david99

If you sign up between now and Monday, March 2nd, you can watch as much as you want, for a month, and spend only 99 cents.

There are no cancellation fees or hidden charges whatsoever. It is quick and easy to cancel if you decide to.

If you choose to stay on, the price is comparable to other streaming video services at 9.95 a month -- and that gets you an all-access pass to everything.

It has been a wonderful thing for me to be forced to produce so much content to keep the show going -- and to finally have a steady job!

It's a lot of work to produce two weekly shows, but I have been able to do it very well -- and have at least another year's worth of material ready to produce.

I have expanded way beyond everything I covered in my books and conferences as a result.

Many of the things I shared in passing are explained in much more detail. I really had to "drop the ego" and just trust that it was OK to release all of this material at such a low cost.

It has taken time, but as the "tree" keeps shaking, a wealth of material is appearing as gift-wrapped presents, all shiny and colorful!



TWO BIG CONFERENCES COMING UP

I am also happy to say that I will be appearing at the New Living Expo in San Mateo, California (near San Francisco) on April 24-26th.

This event will cover some of the same solar system history data that I revealed at the big event in Los Angeles, along with the latest, greatest inside info.

Furthermore, pending a few final nips and tucks -- including deciding what exactly I am going to be speaking about -- I am going to be speaking at the Contact in the Desert event as well.

This is a very fresh announcement, so it's not on the website yet -- but I did send in a signed contract today, so we're almost there!

This event will take place on the weekend of May 29th through 31st in Joshua Tree, California.

In addition to visiting the website at contactinthedesert.net, you can email Crystal Fonoti at crystal@jtrcc.org or call 760-365-8371 for more information.

Both of these events draw epic crowds and are excellent opportunities for socializing, networking and possibly meeting your new partner. It happens!



TIME TO PREPARE FOR THE SHOW...

We go live in just a few hours. You can access the show on AM radio all across America or as a Streamlink subscriber at coasttocoastam.com.

With a show that has such heavy info in it as this, we will probably get a transcript posted as well.

I worked very hard on Gaiam episodes for the last three months, and now finally have an oasis of three months to relax, with nothing else on my schedule except for the two events above.

We can expect a lot more soon enough. I am very keen on increasing my participation all across the board.

This includes finally getting my Ph.D., which I have been offered but haven't had a chance to get, as well as our new push into high-quality home-made YouTube videos with visual FX and lots of bells and whistles.

We also are on the verge of signing a new book deal that will explore these cosmic narratives in more detail.

Two books of "hard science" are enough. The skeptics will always be skeptical. Now it's time to create a vast summary of insider data and connect all the dots!

I thank you for all your ongoing support. It's embarrassing not to have written much and I hope to change that as the year goes on.

In the meantime, for a nominal fee there are plenty of ways to stay "plugged in" -- twice a week. If you don't like Monday, just wait until Thursday... and so on!

Sooz
26th February 2015, 07:22
Any chance of an mp3 link?
Sooz

lift the veil
26th February 2015, 12:53
Here is David Wilcock's interview on Coast to Coast with George Noory as per GoodETxSG's post above. I haven't listened to it yet, but it looks as though there was another guest during the first part of the show so you will need to go to ~39 minutes in to get to David's part of the interview. Below the video is the description of the show that was put up on Youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHJvF6_CHLc&list=PL8PiVFwsoAwIzAAcbuKsSQ8ApV1ahiTRS&index=1

Uploaded on Feb 26, 2015
Coast To Coast AM - February 25, 2015 Ancient ETs & Spiritual Evolution

Filmmaker, author and researcher, David Wilcock, discussed a variety of topics including ancient civilizations and ETs, the secret space program, Genesis & End Times, as well as spiritual information about soul growth, ascension, and the evolution of consciousness. According to his "insider" contacts, the secret space program has conducted missions not known by the public, including a visit to the rings of Saturn, which are a kind of ruins. What they found there were the remains of gigantic rooms made out of glass-like material that were designed for people 70-100 ft. tall, he revealed.

The aliens that built these rooms, along with a massive ring-like project around Saturn, were descendants of a prison colony that were banished to our solar system millions of years ago, he explained. Their enemies became concerned that the rings they were constructing could be used as a resonance-wave weapon to destroy any planet in the galaxy, so they ended up demolishing their project, Wilcock continued. Back on Earth, according to Wilcock's contacts, there are many covered-up mound builder sites in Canada that contain secret research-- including stasis bubbles with 24 ft. tall beings, some of whom have recently reawakened.

Further, Wilcock reported that around 100 enormous spherical ships around the size of Neptune have recently come into our solar system. It appears that four different types of beings from the ships have had contact with Earth's cabal, most prominently the Blue Avians-- who are 8 ft. tall, have bird-like heads, and bodies covered with bright feathers, he said. Yet, Wilcock reported that intelligent alien life is essentially human, with their DNA differing at most 4% from ours.
Disappearance of MH-370

First hour guest, investigative journalist and retired police investigator who specialized in crash scene and forensic investigations, James Sanders, discussed the latest on missing flight MH-370, as well various theories about its disappearance, such as featured in the new book "Someone is Hiding Something." One explanation is that the plane actually landed on Diego Garcia island in the Indian Ocean. But Sanders doubts this because it would mean there was a government reason for doing that, and news from the military base on the island would have likely leaked out. He finds it more likely that the jet was taken to either Yemen or Somalia for possible future use in a terrorist attack.

lift the veil
26th February 2015, 22:28
Interesting "lights" spotted on dwarf planet Ceres. Tribe started a thread on this ( http://jandeane81.com/threads/5735-Strange-lights-on-dwarf-planet-Ceres-have-scientists-perplexed )but it does not look like it got much traffic, so I bumped it and added it here as it seemed appropriate with the topics, beyond-Earth activity in the solar system.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTm1YSSe_iw

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/26/nasas-dawn-spacecraft-spots-two-bright-points-on-ceres/21147062/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl25%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D619509

The Dawn spacecraft has spotted not one, but two bright points on the minor planet Ceres.
Newly enhanced images from the probe show two shining spots on the surface. It's not clear exactly what they are, since we can't get a closer look.
Ceres is a minor planet in the asteroid belt, between Mars and Jupiter. Dawn is speeding its way toward a rendezvous, but it's got a way to go. These latest images are from 29,000 miles away.
NASA's Chris Russell theorizes the two spots might be volcanic in origin, since they both sit in the same crater.
Or, as he tells NBC, they could be ice: especially since "the material reflects 40 percent or more of the light falling on it."
In any case, the images are a significant improvement over what scientists were working with before. Until Dawn got into range, all they had to go on were low-resolution shots from the Hubble Space Telescope.
Ceres will be Dawn's second target during its now eight-year mission. In 2011 the spacecraft orbited Vesta, another ancient protoplanet thought to carry clues to the formation of the early solar system.
Dawn is scheduled to arrive at Ceres on March 6.

norman
27th February 2015, 03:16
Any chance of an mp3 link?
Sooz

errr..... I've been busy away from here a bit lately...... better late than never, I hope....................

here's the David Wilcock section on it's own ( I assume that's what you mean? )

https://app.box.com/s/4dm15c3640ka9gg1cnm2hpnaoeb0jvhf

lookbeyond
27th February 2015, 08:30
Apparantly the vatican has issued some sort of statement saying that if Aliens exist they are also a creation of God, im assuming this is their way of disclosure and probably getting some new recruits when there is more obvious disclosure. Interestingly, our local catholic secondary school had the kids in yr 9 discuss the possibility of the existence of Aliens in religion class a couple of years ago or so,lb

Stoat muldoon
27th February 2015, 09:00
I'm thinking a lot about the shock the general public would/will get if the truth about the SSP comes out.

I'd expect the governments to be showing some signs of preparing for the psychological carnage of it if they were expecting it to be sometime soon. I don't see anything like it yet.

Am I missing the signs? I know there is some indication they are preparing to shoot to kill etc in the US but that's not really a responsible approach. I'd be looking for something more like a support network and mental health care type of thing.

Do others here think they can see prepping signs I've missed?Now then Norman , there's a thing . In Blackpool UK they've just built a massive mental health hospital right next to the M55 motorway .

DivinelyImmortal
27th February 2015, 20:29
Thank you, GoodETxSG, for emphasizing that “THE SPHERE BEINGS AND THEIR ALLIES HAVE REFUSED TO SPEAK TO OR EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CABAL OR TO ANY OTHER ET RACE IN THE SOL SYSTEM!”

I KNOW YOU HAVE SAID THAT FROM DAY ONE, so I'm truly sorry that you took so much heat yesterday due to DW stating otherwise.

Moving on . . . this act of non-communication obviously has huge implications, not the least of which is that the Sphere Beings and their allies are not cutting any “deals” with self-serving ET's whose likely plans were to divvy up Humanity (harvest our bodies, in particular our souls) when “The Event” occurs.

This is very uplifting information that lightens my heart every time I think about it, so I cannot thank you enough for breaking this story about the Sphere Beings and their allies coming to Humanity's assistance.

lookbeyond
28th February 2015, 03:27
Welcome Gemma,lb

Goodness, is this material from Wingmakers Gemma, very interesting ideas,lb

Gemma
28th February 2015, 04:58
Hi lookbeyond and thank you for your welcome. Yes, the quotes are extracts from the vast library of artistic works that James Mahu produces with the WingMakers headline. In his words, (extract from "Collected Works of the Wingmakers"): "The term WingMakers is encoded: "wing" is derived from the term wind or blow. It is the active force of setting new states into motion. "Makers" is the plurality of the co-creators--that being the collective essence of humanity. Thus, WingMakers means that from the collective essence of humanity new states of consciousness come into being. This is the meaning of the term WingMakers, and it confers to humanity a new identity."

But so as not to derail GOODETxSG's thread I hope to finish compiling a thread, time permitting, that shares for those interested, my observations and interpretations of correlations I find with the WingMaker's Materials and the gravity of what GOODETxSG is revealing.

Warm Regards
Gemma

P.S. This paragraph from the WingMaker's mythology is particularly interesting :)


"However, within the next three generations, an influx of advanced souls will be incarnating within terra-earth. We call this influx: Symmetry of Spheres. These advanced souls (most from outside this solar system) will be encoded with predispositions of transformation. By the year 2080, they will be over 200 million strong. These are the transformers who will bring symmetry to the asymmetrical physical and emotional realms. It will be the leaders of this movement that will be responsible for the discovery and irrefutable proof of the human soul."

lookbeyond
28th February 2015, 08:06
I will look forward to this thread Gemma:),lb

monk
28th February 2015, 12:27
I have to say this really is good news about the sphere beings, very encouraging! I don't blame them one bit for being uber-selective in who they contact.

There's some awfully techno-addicted controllopaths up there shaming themselves that need a good sorting out.

norman
1st March 2015, 19:57
The Secret Earth Governments who control the media are doing all they can in this "Shadow Civil War" to prevent us from knowing these things and wining our freedom. They are the last ones that will be sharing this information with us.

If/when the Alliance does get their act together (There is some inner turmoil within it right now on how to proceed/handle things... How much violence... Conflicting Tactical Views etc...) and do prevail there will have to be a take over of the MSM and release of information, re-education of the public that will be extremely psychology difficult on the "Masses", Especially those who have not "Awakened", worked on their Consciousness, Shed Karma and worked on raising their "Vibe" to a loving one.

Those who have and are Service to Others at that time will be very useful to society as they are coping with what all is going to be disclosed about the crimes against Humanity and True History among other things we have been lied to about... IMHO.

The tactic against us gets stronger the more time goes by, IMO. IF they can complete getting all their 'war on terror' ducks in a row, we will ALL be their cardboard terrorists. After all, in the big scheme of things, we are currently at one end, and they at the other, of a big psychological/information battlefield.

They want the split to open up right at our feet with the rest of the field falling onto their side. We need the split to open up at their feet, with the rest of the field falling onto our side.

Their war on terror thing is gradually moving the site of that pending split closer and closer to our ( truther ) feet.

That's not good.

modwiz
1st March 2015, 20:37
If/when the Alliance does get their act together (There is some inner turmoil within it right now on how to proceed/handle things... How much violence... Conflicting Tactical Views etc...) and do prevail there will have to be a take over of the MSM and release of information, re-education of the public that will be extremely psychology difficult on the "Masses", Especially those who have not "Awakened", worked on their Consciousness, Shed Karma and worked on raising their "Vibe" to a loving one.

Those who have and are Service to Others at that time will be very useful to society as they are coping with what all is going to be disclosed about the crimes against Humanity and True History among other things we have been lied to about... IMHO.

I would like to confirm this statement. Great efforts are being made to minimize traumatizing people by those allied with/for humanity. MSM control is important. The arrest of Dick Cheney on MSM news could be made to look like a coup attempt by hostile domestic terrorists by the spinners on TV. FOX would have a field day of misinfo. Despite the care being given to plans, any general knows that plans evaporate as soon as the battle begins. Good will prevail. How that achievement is reached depends on a lot of different factors. The masses could not be less emotionally prepared. A lot of paradigms will be disrupted.

ronin
1st March 2015, 20:47
I would like to confirm this statement. Great efforts are being made to minimize traumatizing people by those allied with/for humanity. MSM control is important. The arrest of Dick Cheney on MSM news could be made to look like a coup attempt by hostile domestic terrorists by the spinners on TV. FOX would have a field day of misinfo. Despite the care being given to plans, any general knows that plans evaporate as soon as the battle begins. Good will prevail. How that achievement is reached depends on a lot of different factors. The masses could not be less emotionally prepared. A lot of paradigms will be disrupted.

can we ever say that a certain time will be right for whatever disclosure.
if their are et,s wanting to disclose their and our origins,what do we always see?
the masses are not ready,it will disrupt society and religion.

are these things not already happening now?
how many people need to die in wars,corruption and influence in our world now.
are we really not ready to make that change.

please stop looking at the masses as a excuse for non disclosure when we already have enough horrors happening.

what do they have to offer would be a good question and what can we offer.

usually change happens fast,ready or not here it comes.
take it or leave it but it usually happens.

do you think it is time or are we just dancing round the mulberry bush.

TelosianEmbrace
2nd March 2015, 06:31
I listened to George Noory's interview of David Wilcock and made almost four pages of notes. Just thought I'd pull out a few points that I found particularly interesting, and see if GoodET has anything more to offer on these subjects.

*DW mentions that there are many, many mound builder sites in the Northwest Territories in Canada and that these are associated with the stasis beings. The military come in and build a fake nuclear power plant or other buildings on top of the mound, and are then able to do their research in secret. They lock down the site so that the stasis beings, when they awaken, aren't able to get out into the open.

Two groups have already been awakened. One of them was 24 foot tall, one was a group of 56 people who woke up last week!!!! A strain of Nordic ET's is taking them off planet to beings like them, living in off-world colonies. It's sort of 'A Big Deal' to have awakened from 13,000 years.

*The Snowden Documents. Snowden had a lot of help. Information was being beamed up to a satellite then down to a storage facility, non-stop, at a very high bandwidth, for three years.They have all the stuff from the SSP's, the alphabet soup agencies and the military/industrial complex. They are planning on releasing this stuff in stages. The information on the satanic group manipulating world politics and mass media is going to be very shocking.

*We are about a year and a half away, and there is nothing the cabal can do to stop it. It only takes one person who has ascended and is able to drive away all of these bad guys, and they see it coming.

modwiz
2nd March 2015, 20:44
"They" also are of the belief that Humanity must experience some more hardships and undergo some more "Growth" and "Understanding of Our Own Power of Consciousness" so we learn to "Stop Repeating Personal and Historical Cycles" that we have been caught up in. We also need to become "Consciously more Service to Others" (Make the effort) and "Raise our Vibrations" to "Resonate with the Energetic/Vibrational Changes" that are currently happening in our part of the Galaxy...

As "Hokey" as this sounds this will be obtained through a "LOVE Frequency" and moving away from the "FEAR/HATE Frequencies"... (They have "Communicated this can be done through current belief systems and that NO EGOCENTRIC PERSONALITIES, NO CULTS, OR RELIGIONS are to be made from their information. They "Communicated" that there is too little time to deal with this "Distortion of Human Nature").

I know this sounds like a bunch of Hippy or New Age mumbo jumbo to many people here but that is their Message/Agenda at this current time. They have just recently come out of their "Observation Phase" and moved into this "Pre-Operational/Operational Phase".

If some of the people in Forums like this are having a hard time with this message imagine how hard of a time I am having in explaining this with those with "Warrior Mentalities" and who are out for "Revenge" and "Heads to Roll" and do anything it takes to end the enslavement of Humanity immediately?

The sphere beings are correct in my observation of the human condition(ing). It is our own defeatism that needs to be defeated, IMO. No matter who I read, the information regarding what needs to be done to free humanity is converging into a narrative of consensus. This is very uplifting and points to the coordination taking place within the minds of these groupings.

Very good news!

Elbie
2nd March 2015, 21:27
Also See Post #248,
They are helping us inwardly and outwardly... In MAJOR and DIRECT ways! They are also helping us help our selves.

This is not a "Prime Directive Protocol" type of intervention. However if we do not evolve and learn some principals on our own they will be doing us no long term favors.

We have never stood on our own two feet without any type of "Interference" or "Management" since our creation. We are starting to "Crawl" and we are now learning to "Walk"... Not all of this is going to make sense to everyone yet... There is more to come.

but the truth is both logical and ethical category

as long as there's talk about 'them' who would/are helping us (on condition that...) from behind the scenes, there can be NO talk about standing on our own feet.

modwiz
2nd March 2015, 22:13
but the truth is both logical and ethical category

as long as there's talk about 'them' who would/are helping us (on condition that...) from behind the scenes, there can be NO talk about standing on our own feet.

I do not understand the either/or polarized statement here. Standing on our own two feet is the only conversation for us to have regardless of what "they" are doing. Our question is, ''What are we doing to empower ourselves?"

However, one can only work within their perspective. Finding those who share an empowered perspective has been the most challenging part of shifting the paradigm and living conditions here on Earth. Lots of "victims" and few warriors. The warriors will be the deliverers and the victims will be receivers of that deliverance. The sorting out process is in progress as we speak.

Hearing all voices is helpful as people's words show where they stand with themselves and the world around them. This permits those wishing to uplift to find partners to work with.

GoodETxSG
2nd March 2015, 22:22
I do not understand the either/or polarized statement here. Standing on our own two feet is the only conversation for us to have regardless of what "they" are doing. Our question is, ''What are we doing to empower ourselves?"

However, one can only work within their perspective. Finding those who share an empowered perspective has been the most challenging part of shifting the paradigm and living conditions here on Earth. Lots of "victims" and few warriors. The warriors will be the deliverers and the victims will be receivers of that deliverance. The sorting out process is in progress as we speak.

Hearing all voices is helpful as people's words show where they stand with themselves and the world around them. This permits those wishing to uplift to find partners to work with.

Well said Modwiz!

Spiral of Light
2nd March 2015, 23:59
"They" also are of the belief that Humanity must experience some more hardships and undergo some more "Growth" and "Understanding of Our Own Power of Consciousness" so we learn to "Stop Repeating Personal and Historical Cycles" that we have been caught up in. We also need to become "Consciously more Service to Others" (Make the effort) and "Raise our Vibrations" to "Resonate with the Energetic/Vibrational Changes" that are currently happening in our part of the Galaxy...

As "Hokey" as this sounds this will be obtained through a "LOVE Frequency" and moving away from the "FEAR/HATE Frequencies"... (They have "Communicated this can be done through current belief systems and that NO EGOCENTRIC PERSONALITIES, NO CULTS, OR RELIGIONS are to be made from their information. They "Communicated" that there is too little time to deal with this "Distortion of Human Nature").

If some of the people in Forums like this are having a hard time with this message imagine how hard of a time I am having in explaining this with those with "Warrior Mentalities" and who are out for "Revenge" and "Heads to Roll" and do anything it takes to end the enslavement of Humanity immediately?

Except for the 'experience more hardships' part, this is great news! For those who have already begun to recognize and apply the Service to Others concept and who are aware of the ability humanity has to raise individual vibration through Love and Compassion, it should be a simple process to ramp it up a notch and consciously Serve and Love even more.

However, I'm wondering about the masses of humanity who remain clueless about this type of spiritual progress... the loving and the serving part of it. How will they learn to tune into that LOVE frequency and relinquish the FEAR and HATE? Could it possibly be accomplished through their various churches? ...but, what about those who are not church-goers?

If I am understanding correctly, it seems that it will be through already-established "current belief systems", and that makes perfect sense to me.

Calz
3rd March 2015, 08:55
For anyone interested DW is making a number of follow-up comments since his C2C radio spot.

Pretty wild stuff of the Blue Avian variety type ...


http://www.theeventchronicle.com/intel/david-wilcock-100-spheres-the-size-of-either-neptune-or-jupiter-have-entered-our-solar-system-in-the-last-2-3-years/

lift the veil
3rd March 2015, 13:44
For anyone interested DW is making a number of follow-up comments since his C2C radio spot.

Pretty wild stuff of the Blue Avian variety type ...


http://www.theeventchronicle.com/intel/david-wilcock-100-spheres-the-size-of-either-neptune-or-jupiter-have-entered-our-solar-system-in-the-last-2-3-years/

Very interesting comments from David. Thanks Calz for the post/link.

lift the veil
3rd March 2015, 13:50
There is a lot of info coming in about "The Cabal" trying to bring about some "Biblical End Time" type incidents including a "Short" WWIII that would focus and end around Israel. More on that will probably come out through another source... I know this is getting "Stranger" than it already was... Stand by, it appears this ride has just begun.

TY,
"G"

GoodETxSG,

In regards to your comment above about "the Cabal trying to bring about some Biblical End Time" type incidents would you please look at my question here http://jandeane81.com/threads/5178-Secret-Space-Program-ET-Federation-Delegation-amp-MILAB-quot-Experiencer-quot-GoodETxSG-quot-Q-amp-A-quot?p=841902238&viewfull=1#post841902238 regarding the Nephilim and their possible connection to these giant beings.

Thank you,

Lift the veil

Calz
3rd March 2015, 14:13
Very interesting comments from David. Thanks Calz for the post/link.


Posting a link is easy ... what GoodETxSG (and others) is doing is not and that is where our thanks should be directed to.

imho

Calz
3rd March 2015, 14:17
How much truth is there in DW's statement that the blue avian(s) are Ra? My understanding is that Ra is not one of the good guys. I don't mind being corrected though, I'm just a student on this rock like everyone else...

I'll wing it from my decaying memory ...

Ra was "not one of the good guys" in Egypt ... at least the results not as good as intended?

karma to pay ...

6th density STO as described in length in the Law of One series.

(that's the very short version)


That said ... that was the first reference to the Blue Avians actually being Ra I am aware of ... discernment as always.

DivinelyImmortal
3rd March 2015, 15:14
Thanks, 'G'.

This question is definitely something that needs more clarification. Our history has been so distorted and so manipulated that it can be very difficult to know what is true, i.e., one 'story' can sound good, but the next story that comes along flips what you thought was true upside down. I don't know how many times I have flip-flopped on different material or sources over the past 6+ years. I have more or less given up on what to believe. I hope the Sphere Beings/Blue Avians will clarify this question of RA for us.

I respect and value the Wes Penre Papers (though not agreeing/resonating with every single thing he says), and he does not paint a pretty picture about the entity known as RA. His information is not fresh in my mind, but he discusses RA in his Third Level of Learning, among other places: http://wespenre.com/3/site-map3.htm

[Sorry, this refers to post #266, which I failed to quote.]

DivinelyImmortal
3rd March 2015, 16:23
I don't think we can put too much faith in any one source that is around the Earth right now... Be it the "Ra Material" or this "Wes Penre Papers Material"... The list of "Other Materials" goes on and on that has been brought to my attention...

Like I said, nothing on the message of (Or info about) the Blue Sphere or Avians have "Flip Flopped" or "Changed"... Possibly only the perceptions and explanations of our 3/4 D Minds and Understandings (Or some were 'Projecting" idea's out of hope and beliefs)... But the true answer is not in the material of "OTHERS"... But for each and every one of us to start with what we can control... "Our Selves"...

We can choose to make the hard changes to our selves or give up and say it is too hard and "It will not effect the greater world in general anyway" (Forgetting the Butterfly Effect). OR, we can begin to make POSITIVE changes in ourselves and know that OTHERS are also getting this message are are being worked on to do the same.

Those who have evil in their minds and hearts will always remain "Service to Self". Those of us who insist on going about our lives as usual and let the "Alliance" fight the battles and "Off World" beings free us will never learn what it is we are here to learn, break these cycles of karma and begin to raise our vibrations.

Idea's and beliefs can be like "Fad's" and easily thrown away... Some will go too far the other way and make them a religion... The beauty of free will is you have the this choice and bare the consequences of your decisions.

We can continue like gerbils on a wheel of karma going no where or hop off our individual cycles, put the information that is available to us through our discernment filters and act accordingly. No one is going to force this information down anyone's throats... As it is being delivered do with it what you will.

WE are at some point going to have to step up and take individual action and responsibility for securing our freedom ! (IMHO)... I challenge everyone to at least try, what do you have to loose other than to become a better person? Just do not go handing over your free will or joining any Cults!

"G"


Point taken, 'G'.

Ultimately, the only thing we really have any control over is who we are as an individual person/soul.

I guess our 3D thinking wants to box things into black or white, good or evil, but we make ourselves crazy in the process reading different interpretations of manipulated history.

As Bill Hicks said, "This is just a ride!" We just need to do the best we can and be the best we can until this roller coaster ride is over. Wherever we end up will be our own doing based upon the kind of person we are.

TrumanLCash
3rd March 2015, 17:19
David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception. (I do think that David Wilcock does impart some good information on other subjects, though.)

I knew Ra personally in my past incarnation as an Egyptian pharoah and my name was pronounced Ra-may-sees (not "Ramzees"). Ra was part of a group of apparent ETs who appeared in their flying disk (i.e., space/time ship) to numerous leaders and "prophets" all over the planet. They are the ETs who portrayed themselves as "gods" and who established the established the major world religions and secret societies in order to keep mankind apart and fighting with each other. I was personally ordered by Ra and Ptah to fight the Hittites. The operated under various names in numerous cultures. They are the hidden cause of war and chaos on this planet (not to mention satanic rituals, etc).

I do not expect or want people to believe me just because I say I have these memories. The Egyptians and other civilizations have recorded the heinous mind control activities of this group of ETs. Zecharia Sitchin has translated Egyptian writings as well as writings from other civilizations. It is no secret that Ra and his fellow conspirators were not nice guys because it has been widely publicized throughout Earth's history (mistaken as "mythology" in modern times). They operated on fear. Nowadays it appears they operate through "channeled" or telepathic messages to deceive and to manipulate minds and beliefs. They do channel some truth in order to get people to buy into the sugar-coated messages and accept a belief system that is not their own. And that is the simplicity of the trap. I have documented this group of ETs in my second book THE EYE OF RA. I would also recommend THE GODS OF EDEN by William Bramley and THE WARS OF GODS AND MEN by Sitchin.

It's all about mind control. Discernment is the watchword. Truth lies within us all if one takes the time and effort to look. It is the deceivers who offer truth on a silver platter for us to accept as a belief system. That is how they established the planet's religions and secret societies. Real truthseeking takes an extreme amount of time and effort and it is an endless process. It never comes on a silver platter. The more we come to know, the more we realize that there is more to know. As we individually unlock one level of the matrix, we start to see the next level. But no one can do it for us. No channeled information is going to set anyone free from the matrix as it requires active participation of the truth seeker who QUESTIONS AUTHORITY at every step of the way.

And may the truth set us free,
Truman L Cash

Elbie
3rd March 2015, 17:59
I do not understand the either/or polarized statement here. Standing on our own two feet is the only conversation for us to have regardless of what "they" are doing. Our question is, ''What are we doing to empower ourselves?"

However, one can only work within their perspective. Finding those who share an empowered perspective has been the most challenging part of shifting the paradigm and living conditions here on Earth. Lots of "victims" and few warriors. The warriors will be the deliverers and the victims will be receivers of that deliverance. The sorting out process is in progress as we speak.

Hearing all voices is helpful as people's words show where they stand with themselves and the world around them. This permits those wishing to uplift to find partners to work with.

it's not eitner or..the truth is BOTH ethical and logical category.

i agree: standing on our own two feet is the only conversation that matters.. whatever 'they' if there is a 'they' might be up to, is of no consenquence to us.

if you can accept that the truth is both ethical and logical at he same time, i don't see where your point of disagreement is in relation to what i wrote.

Elbie
3rd March 2015, 18:43
(GoodETx.None of us are above distortions and self aggrandizing beliefs and personal "Truths" within our own "Reality Bubbles"... None of us!

despite that, i keep an eye for one...more, and/ or all at some point - sevice to others souls, who'd be, among all the rest, consciously dismissing deception.

lookbeyond
3rd March 2015, 21:40
I'll wing it from my decaying memory ...

Ra was "not one of the good guys" in Egypt ... at least the results not as good as intended?

karma to pay ...

6th density STO as described in length in the Law of One series.

(that's the very short version)


That said ... that was the first reference to the Blue Avians actually being Ra I am aware of ... discernment as always.

Some of those Egyptian and Sumerian bird headed carved rock stories/hieroglyphs come to mind..

jcocks
4th March 2015, 00:48
Thank you for this info, G. This is very helpful, though there is a lot of conflicting information on the Internet about Density vs. Dimension, as well as how many Density levels and how many Dimension levels there are.

Anyway, this appears to place the Sphere Beings and their four allies in a vibrational or evolutionary plane, if I can use those simple terms, that is well above that of the self-serving (STS) races, which is excellent news for us.

That depends on who you talk to. My personal understanding is that there are self-serving races in all dimensional levels.


Just for the sake of clarity, though, when you say 'D', are you referring to Density or Dimension?

It's the same thing really. As you go up the dimensional levels reality becomes less "dense" and easier to influence.

lookbeyond
4th March 2015, 06:08
David Wilcock has been promoting the "Ra" of the "Law of One" channeled material as being a benevolent being. I have been sort of biting my tongue for quite a while on this subject as I have been busy with other unrelated activities. The bottom line is that it is my experience that this is a deception. (I do think that David Wilcock does impart some good information on other subjects, though.)

I knew Ra personally in my past incarnation as an Egyptian pharoah and my name was pronounced Ra-may-sees (not "Ramzees"). Ra was part of a group of apparent ETs who appeared in their flying disk (i.e., space/time ship) to numerous leaders and "prophets" all over the planet. They are the ETs who portrayed themselves as "gods" and who established the established the major world religions and secret societies in order to keep mankind apart and fighting with each other. I was personally ordered by Ra and Ptah to fight the Hittites. The operated under various names in numerous cultures. They are the hidden cause of war and chaos on this planet (not to mention satanic rituals, etc).

I do not expect or want people to believe me just because I say I have these memories. The Egyptians and other civilizations have recorded the heinous mind control activities of this group of ETs. Zecharia Sitchin has translated Egyptian writings as well as writings from other civilizations. It is no secret that Ra and his fellow conspirators were not nice guys because it has been widely publicized throughout Earth's history (mistaken as "mythology" in modern times). They operated on fear. Nowadays it appears they operate through "channeled" or telepathic messages to deceive and to manipulate minds and beliefs. They do channel some truth in order to get people to buy into the sugar-coated messages and accept a belief system that is not their own. And that is the simplicity of the trap. I have documented this group of ETs in my second book THE EYE OF RA. I would also recommend THE GODS OF EDEN by William Bramley and THE WARS OF GODS AND MEN by Sitchin.

It's all about mind control. Discernment is the watchword. Truth lies within us all if one takes the time and effort to look. It is the deceivers who offer truth on a silver platter for us to accept as a belief system. That is how they established the planet's religions and secret societies. Real truthseeking takes an extreme amount of time and effort and it is an endless process. It never comes on a silver platter. The more we come to know, the more we realize that there is more to know. As we individually unlock one level of the matrix, we start to see the next level. But no one can do it for us. No channeled information is going to set anyone free from the matrix as it requires active participation of the truth seeker who QUESTIONS AUTHORITY at every step of the way.

And may the truth set us free,
Truman L Cash

Thankyou Trueman, i read both your books some time back now and i hope GoodETsXG does not mind me going off topic somewhat. GoodETsXG has mentioned "Jesus" in his post at PA a time back with reguard to removal of etheric parasites if my memory serves me correctly and i am wondering if you have an opinion on "Jesus's" /Yeshua /The Christs work on Earth, I believe He also said "The truth will set you free" and His Gospels left out of the official Bible may represent His Works more accurately than the pauline versions.

I am wondering if you consider "Jesus" a helper of Humanity in terms of personal evolvement, possibly a "good ET" for want of a better description.

Please forgive me if you have mentioned this topic in your books as it is quite a long time ago i read them and i have read much since,

Thankyou and Kind Reguards, lookbeyond

Gemma
4th March 2015, 06:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rakv-eNJBn8

Giant Planet size UFO's THE Sun Stargate & Sungods - Nassim Haramein Part 1 of 5
TRANSCRIPT

It became clear to me eventually that the Sun God's must have been Sun God's for a reason. They were called Sun God's in all these civilizations just the same. Well if the universe is different scale black holes then in order for these Sun God's to travel through space from one side of the galaxy to the other they would have to enter the wormhole, the singularity at the centre of those black holes. So they would use stars as gateways to go from one side of the galaxy to another. And then you would expect them to be called Sun God's. That is why, for instance, the ancient traditions in most of these countries talks about the sun as the doorway to the higher realm where the Sun God's come from. They talk about the black hole at the centre of our galaxy as the hub, the central sun, from which you can access all of the stars in the galaxy. So you would enter the sun and then through to the galactic centre out one of the arms of the galaxy, out one of the suns on another arm in the galaxy.

This is the sun as it looks normally. On the sun appears sunspots. These are sunspots. Actually they are sunspots seen at the x-ray range level so they appear very bright. Actually sunspots in the optical spectrum are very dark, like black. Well they appear when the sun becomes very active at 19.47 lat north and south, okay, and when you look at the sunspot carefully, and I picked this one because I believe that sun spots are at the heart of the matter, when you look at it carefully you can see that the fire is being sucked in. That's what made me think from my calculations and from my theory and all this that the sunspots on the sun are not surface events but huge vortices going to the middle of the sun.

Can you see the fire being sucked in here? I got in a lotta trouble for saying that. Coz they said no, no, no it's just surface event. And I said well if it's just surface event how come if you look at the sunspots on the sun, they always occur in opposite polar - [points to screen images] - see this one here has got an opposite one there. These three there have an opposite three there! You see all the sun spots occur in opposition to each other because when you have a vortex going one way in the coriolis effect you have another going the other way on the other side and they generate a link at the middle, a link at singularity. Sun spots are huge vortices going towards singularity at the centre of the black hole and that's why when you look at sun spot's very carefully you see fire being sucked in.

The sun spots actually break through the event horizon of the black hole of the sun where you can actually see the collapsing black hole pulling the electromagnetic field in. Well when I was saying this I was being ridiculed, recently this is what they found. [plays a short vid on Stanford scientist discoveries that ends with: and for the first time they had discovered an inward flow of material, we discovered the out flowing material was just the surface feature . . . and if you look at them deeper you find material rushing inwards like planet sized whirlpools or hurricanes . . . until now we've looked down at the top of sunspots like we might look down at a tree through branches and leaves . . . the roots of the tree however remain a mystery.] Nassim: "ha ha that's for you guys.

So they started to see now that the sunspots, which some of them are like 14 times the size of the earth, are huge vortices going towards the middle and when you talk about material being spit out of the sunspots do you guys know what material that is? Water. Large amounts of water comes out of sunspots on the sun right beside the fire. So then I was thinking about that, I'm like, hmm, okay well you know if you were to travel through the universe and everything in the universe was a singularity and everything in the universe is a singularity then you could build a ship that's able to go inside a singularity. That ship would have to have a drive at its centre that is a singularity in itself. You could enter a local singularity and because you're in singularity, connected to all things, you could come out anywhere you want, anywhere else in the universe. And you could actually follow a linear progression of that travel although it would only take seconds for you to go across the galaxy. You would still go through the singularity of the sun, through the singularity of the hub and then out through another singularity that would be a solar system in some other corner of the galaxy. You could even go from the hub to another galaxy hub and then come out wherever you want there. You guys are following this???

Okay, well then if you think of it this way, okay well we should be able to see these guys coming in and out, so I started to investigate this and I found something very bizarre. I found that most of the telescopes and probes that observe the sun are owned by no-one else but the Vatican. The Vatican. And I was thinking, well, that is strange, what does the Vatican want with the sun? So I started to you know keep track of what was going on on the sun and I kept on downloading material from NASA from the SOHO probe which is the probe that's orbiting the sun and one day this video was put on the net, almost 5 years ago, there's been many others since then though.

This is a good one. Let's take a look at it. This is the probe telemetry, this is the camera and it has a little arm that has a protective lens because otherwise the electronics would get overwhelmed and this is a representation of the sun's surface and this is the video. [plays video] This video was placed on the net saying comet, sun gazing comet hits the sun and you know a bunch of people downloaded this stuff and emailed NASA and said what are these objects because comets usually have extremely long tails when they approach an object like the sun. Do you know how big these objects are? At least the size of the earth. A comet the size of the earth orbiting or approaching the sun should have a very large, very visible tail. So after a whole bunch of astro physicists emailed NASA going what are these objects you're calling comets, they retracted the video. I was lucky to get a copy because after a whole bunch of people complained when they retracted the video they put the video back on. But all of a sudden the objects had tails.

However, let's go back and analyze this video a little bit. You can see the stars in the background all going from left to right, okay that's because the probe is orbiting. And all these little white dots those are particles hitting the camera so you can't ignore these little beeps. If you actually go backward you will find that there is only one object going toward the sun, at first. And then at this frame you will find two little objects here that appear that in the next frame move from here to here. Can everybody see this? So from here to there.

Now that's against all the other movements in the background and then on the next frame these two objects become one. Now that's quite possible if the two objects ended up one behind each other, so now it becomes one to an observer here. And then in the next frame these two objects become the second comet which makes a ninety degree angle turn, see, boom, become one, and then starts moving in this direction. [B]So it became one here and then started moving completely in a ninety degree angle direction from where it was going. Now the only comets, that I know of, that do that type of crazy movements, are the ones that have little windows and little guys in the back waving. [audience comment: the size of the earth?] The size of the earth!

lookbeyond
4th March 2015, 06:43
Food for thought Gemma, thankyou,lb

DivinelyImmortal
4th March 2015, 15:37
To All,

These Sphere Beings and their allies have remained cloaked and unidentified for up to 16 years, since 1999. I believe it behooves us to find out who these “Beings” are and what their true motives are, rather than assuming anything.

I keep wanting to believe that they have Humanity's best interests at heart, but something keeps telling me not to blindly assume that, or we may be setting ourselves up for something that we will deeply regret later.

In other words, we need to stop being sheep and nonchalantly accepting whatever comes our way.

If these truly are benevolent Beings, I believe they need to establish that fact beyond any doubt by figuring out some way to prove that to us that would be impossible for malevolent ET's to imitate through deception.

I don't know if that is possible, but a holographic Jesus appearing in the sky would not convince me of anything, nor would some fantastic aerial display of ships, to give two examples that would be unconvincing.

At the very least, I believe they should 1) state who they are, 2) state emphatically and unequivocally that they are benevolent and are here to serve the highest and greatest good for Humanity, and 3) state what their ultimate objectives are, as opposed to short-term benevolent 'bait' to lure us in.

That still would not prove or guarantee anything, but at least it would be an attempt to hold their feet to the fire to prove who they are and what they want, as opposed to blindly and naively rolling out the red carpet for them.

Knowledge is Power, and I would modify that profound expression to Knowledge is Spiritual Power, which is our ultimate weapon against tyranny.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying or implying that these Sphere Beings and their allies are not benevolent; I'm saying that they should prove to us that they are and that we should not rest until we have some satisfactory answers.

Calz
5th March 2015, 18:48
Comic relief ... hope that is allowed ...

... spotted one of them Blue Avian thingies ...


... all good ... didn't pull out the shotgun ...



http://www.my-favorite-coloring.biz/Images/Large/Famous-characters-The-Smurfs-Flying-Smurf-80175.png

TrumanLCash
5th March 2015, 20:01
Thankyou Trueman, i read both your books some time back now and i hope GoodETsXG does not mind me going off topic somewhat. GoodETsXG has mentioned "Jesus" in his post at PA a time back with reguard to removal of etheric parasites if my memory serves me correctly and i am wondering if you have an opinion on "Jesus's" /Yeshua /The Christs work on Earth, I believe He also said "The truth will set you free" and His Gospels left out of the official Bible may represent His Works more accurately than the pauline versions.

I am wondering if you consider "Jesus" a helper of Humanity in terms of personal evolvement, possibly a "good ET" for want of a better description.

Please forgive me if you have mentioned this topic in your books as it is quite a long time ago i read them and i have read much since,

Thankyou and Kind Reguards, lookbeyond

Yes, I did first encounter the principle that the truth can set us free in the "New Testament" of the Bible when I was a young lad. However, I have no knowledge of whether the so-called "Jesus" (which could not have been his name if he existed in fact) actually existed or not. However, it is quite plain that the bible has been altered so what is true or not remains obscured. As I pointed out in the EYE OF RA, the whole Jesus story as it now exists shows that it is connected with Sun God worship. I read a book by the Dalai Lama and the principles sounded strangely familiar to the alleged words of "Jesus" in the bible. So it seems a bit of a mystery whether the actual story of Jesus was changed to fit the Sun God machinations. For example, the eucharist was straight out of Egypt (which I confirmed from my own memories, but is also widely known in association with Osiris as a historical fact.) The principle of the truth setting us free does not necessarily come from just the Bible. It is a universal principle and I have found that it can be a useful tool for exposing the matrix.

Also, since you referred to my previous post, I should mention that I made a clarification of it in the UFO/ET section here (http://jandeane81.com/threads/5282-ET-Conspiracy-Matrix-Revealed?p=841903809&viewfull=1#post841903809). I wanted to make it clear that I was not attacking David Wilcock's beliefs but simply wanting to express my viewpoint of the "Law of One" channelings.

Truman L Cash

Calz
6th March 2015, 06:13
Yea, I saw that posted over on the "Dis-Info" thread on another Forum... Very Clever.

EDIT:

NOT ONE PERSON HAS EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT OF FORTITUDE TO EVEN BRING UP THE TINY POINT THAT THE SOME PEOPLE WITH AGENDA'S ARE COMPLETELY MISREPRESENTING ALL OF THE INFO THAT THEY ARE PUTTING FORTH ABOUT THE BLUE AVIANS MESSAGE... NOT ONE OF THE CROSS FORUM MEMBERS ARE WILLING TO POST THE GENUINE REPORTED INFORMATION TO REFUTE THE RIDICULED DIS-INFORMATION (Interestingly enough these are 100% Government Dis-info/Discredit Tactics!)...

Very Disappointing!

"G"




Cannot speak for anyone else (cross member or not) ... but I have been taken to task by the mod squad several times for "cross posting" ... and I don't wish to be banned.

Sounds cowardly no doubt to people really laying it on the line ... but I certainly could not carry *any* message forward without a presence ... correct?

I do what I can to walk the fine line and offer subtle suggestions ... what else can I do???


Anyway ... this thread (and many others here) are open for visitor viewing ... those that wish to see it can read your messages loud and clear.

modwiz
6th March 2015, 07:31
GoodeT, I hear the message clearly and it has been the focus of what is shared by me in written and spoken word. Sovereign humans, Blue Avians and Red Dragons, lol, are all of one mind as to what it will take to "save" humanity. That is, get them off their knees and grow into beings who comprehend sovereignty and the responsibility of higher functioning required. It does appear the mind control is deeper than previously perceived. Or genetics, tinkering or otherwise.

Calz
6th March 2015, 08:24
It does appear the mind control is deeper than previously perceived. Or genetics, tinkering or otherwise.




Therein lies the rub ...


Clearly humanity must rise to the occasion ... but to what degree are we able to do so under the current circumstances?


Allegedly some of the external forces creating this scenario are being mitigated ...


Perhaps.


... an even playing field would be remarkable considering where we have come from ...

lift the veil
6th March 2015, 12:35
We are scheduling another trip for me out to L.A. to put together a full presentation of "Data/Information" with "Images" and "Video".

I am also in contact with several people over the last few days who have contacted through my site that "Say" they have had contact with both "Orb's" and "Blue Avian's". I have no idea if they are legit yet, I was told that there Had Been and World Be other people contacted and that they would have specific information that they would present to verify their experiences/communications. At this point I have no idea if they are "Legit", "Neurotic Attention Seeker's" or just some more people looking to "Ridicule".

In any case after my trip and our working with a small team to present some high quality data/images the information will be posted both on DW's site and my Site here: http://goodetxsg-secretspaceprogram.blogspot.com/ (Some small updates already)

Thank you,
"G"

Another presentation with more info sound great. :) As for the last one, I was only able to hear David and could not see any of the visual part.

I hope this presentation will be posted in full and we won't have to pay a fee to see the whole enchilada. Will the whole presentation will be made available for free?

Thank you,

Lift the Veil

mano
6th March 2015, 12:52
It does appear the mind control is deeper than previously perceived. Or genetics, tinkering or otherwise.

There is mind control everywhere. WE ourselves have to make the conscious effort and most of us here would know this.

There are chemtrails, em waves, micro waves, etc etc. But why are there so many devices of control?

They know that it can no longer be stopped, the increase of energy in our sol system pairs to activate higher densities in our DNA. Organic life always seeks to be in balance with nature.
That is why Monsanto makes farmers buy seed every year because they know that after a few generations the seeds "miraculously" go back to "being normal"

I'm sorry if I did not make myself clear, I am not very good with expression of verbal language.

To GOODET, Thank you for your posts. They have reassured me of everything that comes through me.

Love will heal this world, Love IS healing the world. More then all of us here our brothers and sisters of earth need it more then we do.
We are the forerunners, here to set the stage. You know just as I do this work we do is not a coincidence. Take back complete control of your power.
You are always being guided. Be the frequency you wish to experience. There will be much turmoil and not everyone will make it. It is ok.
We are all on the same journey walking different paths.We will usher in this golden age. You need not worry, look at the kids, they are already living the new way.

Spiral of Light
6th March 2015, 19:33
GoodETxsg, when I left PA, I REALLY left PA. I pulled all the plugs to that place and haven't been back since.

However, while checking out a link to PA from your website, regarding the false allegations, I was able to read the thread that demonizes you and DW and makes fun of the Blue Avians and their message to humanity that is now becoming clear.

What was obvious to me is that many of the posters on that thread displayed attitudes of mockery and gang-style commentary that is exactly the opposite attitude of the Service to Others direction that we are being encouraged to go in by the Blue Avians as a means to achieve higher vibratory states.

Let them wallow in their criticism and pompous negativity. At some point, the dust will settle, and there will be clarity regarding all of this.

As we move forward, we are moving away from the hurtfulness of such ones. It is “of no significance” in the Grand Scheme of Things… as they, the nay-sayers themselves, are of no significance.

Hmmm... tried to post this comment several hours ago, but received a message that the ToT system had crashed. Lost the post, so came back and rewrote it. Just noticed that the time stamp is 15:33 (or 3:33).

monk
7th March 2015, 12:30
Ahh, thankyou Goodet. The clarification further crystallises my disagreement given your assertion that along the course of my dimensional evolution I will be forced at some stage to share my consciousness against my will or face devolution.

Thankyou for taking the time to elucidate further the position held by your 9D hive mind associates with respect to sovereign awareness and I will post here no more.

Peace brother.

Breeze
7th March 2015, 13:13
Ahh, thankyou Goodet. The clarification further crystallises my disagreement given your assertion that along the course of my dimensional evolution I will be forced at some stage to share my consciousness against my will or face devolution.

Thankyou for taking the time to elucidate further the position held by your 9D hive mind associates with respect to sovereign awareness and I will post here no more.

Peace brother.

Hi Monk, just read your post. I cannot answer for GoodET, yet understand your concerns. :h5:

From my own understanding and experience, Sovereign Conscious Awareness and ‘Unity Conscious’ is of a much higher frequency spin/level ‘beyond’ the sciences of ‘quantum entanglement’.

So I think what GoodET is talking about is different in that regard.

Just sharing my own opinion as we walk along this Spiritual journey of re-remembering, re-connecting to our own individual uniqueness all the way home to 'our Source'.


:wiz::wiz::wiz:

monk
7th March 2015, 13:45
Ok well the contention that evolution means dilution of that which source has gifted itself with, individuation, is yours and not mine. I intend to meet my maker as an equal, not to be absorbed by it.

We are always in Unity, synthetically established means of telepathy are at best dubious and at worst, nefarious.

Again I will state my love for peace and do hereby deny consent to being a part of any synthetic network, ever.

monk
7th March 2015, 15:04
By all means do not refrain from "poo poohing" my "belief system". I myself would prefer to consider it more like you are enlightening me out of the goodness of your heart, fear not for I shall not resent you for this. And with any luck further illumination will prompt me to change said "belief system" :)

I don't disagree with the ethos of service to other and on this we are in agreement, I am simply concerned, as always, by the devil in the details.

Please do not consider this and my previous posts an attack on your belief system that states definitives about dimensions no one on earth currently operates on consciously, I am only curious.

GoodETxSG
7th March 2015, 15:16
By all means do not refrain from "poo poohing" my "belief system". I myself would prefer to consider it more like you are enlightening me out of the goodness of your heart, fear not for I shall not resent you for this. :)

I don't disagree with the ethos of service to other and on this we are in agreement, I am simply concerned, as always, by the devil in the details.

Please do not consider this and my previous posts an attack on your belief system that states definitives about dimensions no one on earth currently operates on consciously, I am only curious.

I was not threatened or nor did I feel attacked... Nor was I speaking down to you (Perceptions)... :confused:

I made every effort to point out that there are many belief systems and free will is in place for that reason. There was no disrespect or ill toned demeanor meant by anything I said... I was not just speaking to you but others who read these posts. No reason for anyone to feel threatened or offended... IMHO.

monk
7th March 2015, 15:32
I am not one to illustrate or elaborate on the validity of my ideology, so I won't do so now.

;-)

mano
7th March 2015, 22:45
If you heard the GoodET interviews where he talks about free energy and all that stuff that would be given to humanity.

How it's going to happen is US THE PEOPLE will do it. We are not going to wait anymore. Stop resisting. It's over.

It's up to you to change the world. Change within.

monk
8th March 2015, 11:55
Oh sorry lookbeyond I'm in no position to provide you with a definitive answer, Goodet may be able to provide the comfort you seek.

One thing I can say is that we will all live and we will all survive, while all the evil inside of us dies.

lookbeyond
8th March 2015, 23:16
Oh sorry lookbeyond I'm in no position to provide you with a definitive answer, Goodet may be able to provide the comfort you seek.

One thing I can say is that we will all live and we will all survive, while all the evil inside of us dies.

No worries monk, im in the lifelong process of information gathering, all perspectives welcome!:), lb

DNA
9th March 2015, 18:26
Dear monk and GoodETxSG, one of my concerns for this lifetime for my children and myself is about the "decision" we will need to make upon death, where to go?---> the light or no? and if the "light" the "gold" tinted one (me?you?us?) or the "white light" (soul recycling moon base?)

-----------So any advice here for me to consider please?

Thanks, lb :)

I know this question is not addressed to me, but I'm going to jump in for the fun of it.

I absolutely positively do not think there is a moon based ghost machine, syphoning down peoples souls.
I was first exposed to this idea in the works of Castaneda and his Eagle that devoured the awareness of mankind, and as such the idea has been with me for quite a while .

To make this as succinct as possible, I believe things work exactly how they are depicted in this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNbdUEqDB-k

Highland1
9th March 2015, 20:29
I know this question is not addressed to me, but I'm going to jump in for the fun of it.

I absolutely positively do not think there is a moon based ghost machine, syphoning down peoples souls.
I was first exposed to this idea in the works of Castaneda and his Eagle that devoured the awareness of mankind, and as such the idea has been with me for quite a while .

To make this as succinct as possible, I believe things work exactly how they are depicted in this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNbdUEqDB-k



Blocked in the uk courtesy of the BBC........


Russ

lift the veil
9th March 2015, 21:42
Dear monk and GoodETxSG, one of my concerns for this lifetime for my children and myself is about the "decision" we will need to make upon death, where to go?---> the light or no? and if the "light" the "gold" tinted one (me?you?us?) or the "white light" (soul recycling moon base?)

-----------So any advice here for me to consider please?

Thanks, lb :)I know this question is not addressed to me, but I'm going to jump in for the fun of it.

I absolutely positively do not think there is a moon based ghost machine, syphoning down peoples souls.
I was first exposed to this idea in the works of Castaneda and his Eagle that devoured the awareness of mankind, and as such the idea has been with me for quite a while .

To make this as succinct as possible, I believe things work exactly how they are depicted in this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNbdUEqDB-k

She describes a typical NDE. I have read MANY. My question is how do we know that the Afterlife she went to is not a controlled reality, just like this one? Is all the light, love, friends and family waiting to greet you there just a SHAM, another trap to keep you further controlled, just controlled in the Afterlife?

Who controls the Afterlife, is it controlled by the Archons? I wouldn't put it past them! Is it a reincarnation trap to keep us recycling back down to Earth so they can continue to feed on the turmoil here? They control us while incarnated on Earth, then control us in the "false" Heaven in the Afterlife.??? What a deal for them. Total control and they will never cease to exist.

Her testimony of how wonderful it is sure makes for a good sales pitch for the masses to seek out the "light" after they die. Do the Archons send people back to Earth on purpose, implement NDEs, to push false advertising? "You must go back, it isn't your time." Riiiiiiiight. This woman even said that her "Uncle" pushed her back into her body and told her that she must return, even though she did not want to come back. What kind of free will is that???

Like Lookbeyond, I have similar questions and await any answers that GoodETxSG may have regarding the topic.

Thank you,

Lift the Veil

p.s. I am not saying that the Afterlife does not exist. I am just wondering if the one the lady found herself in is a "false" one where people are tricked into going, all the while a TRUE afterlife exists somewhere else. If so where is this TRUE afterlife? How do we avoid the fake one and find the real one?

lookbeyond
10th March 2015, 04:17
She describes a typical NDE. I have read MANY. My question is how do we know that the Afterlife she went to is not a controlled reality, just like this one? Is all the light, love, friends and family waiting to greet you there just a SHAM, another trap to keep you further controlled, just controlled in the Afterlife?

Who controls the Afterlife, is it controlled by the Archons? I wouldn't put it past them! Is it a reincarnation trap to keep us recycling back down to Earth so they can continue to feed on the turmoil here? They control us while incarnated on Earth, then control us in the "false" Heaven in the Afterlife.??? What a deal for them. Total control and they will never cease to exist.

Her testimony of how wonderful it is sure makes for a good sales pitch for the masses to seek out the "light" after they die. Do the Archons send people back to Earth on purpose, implement NDEs, to push false advertising? "You must go back, it isn't your time." Riiiiiiiight. This woman even said that her "Uncle" pushed her back into her body and told her that she must return, even though she did not want to come back. What kind of free will is that???

Like Lookbeyond, I have similar questions and await any answers that GoodETxSG may have regarding the topic.

Thank you,

Lift the Veil

p.s. I am not saying that the Afterlife does not exist. I am just wondering if the one the lady found herself in is a "false" one where people are tricked into going, all the while a TRUE afterlife exists somewhere else. If so where is this TRUE afterlife? How do we avoid the fake one and find the real one?

Thankyou i appreciate your post as this is also my concern,lb

jcocks
10th March 2015, 10:53
p.s. I am not saying that the Afterlife does not exist. I am just wondering if the one the lady found herself in is a "false" one where people are tricked into going, all the while a TRUE afterlife exists somewhere else. If so where is this TRUE afterlife? How do we avoid the fake one and find the real one?

My understanding, and that of Wes Penre's material, is that the afterlife we go to after "entering the light" is a soul-trap designed by Enki (Lucifer) and is people to keep people in the cycle of reincarnation. There's more to it than just that, but that's the basic story. I definitely reccommend you read level 3 and onwards of the Wes Penre papers at wespenre.com. The way I understand it, the way to avoid the afterlife is not to enter the light when told to do so.

Calz
10th March 2015, 14:23
fwiw ... Simon Parkes seemed stunned to know that information was "out there" when it was first presented on ... another ... forum.

He suggested it was one of the illooney naughties most closely guarded secrets ...


Make of that what you will ... or don't ... free will TOT'ers.

donk
10th March 2015, 15:04
fwiw ... Simon Parkes seemed stunned to know that information was "out there" when it was first presented on ... another ... forum.

He suggested it was one of the illooney naughties most closely guarded secrets ...


Make of that what you will ... or don't ... free will TOT'ers.

Are you referring to the Wes Penre's stuff in particular?

Calz
10th March 2015, 15:16
Are you referring to the Wes Penre's stuff in particular?

Nope.

Referring to the suggestion from several that heading down that tunnel of light with your passed relatives and friends beaconing and those wonderful vibes might not be such a good thing after all.


I don't know donk ... how could I?


It just kinda ****es me off that as soon as I get into a comfort zone ... a happy space ... yeah nde proves we go on ... perhaps it isn't quite that simple???


... or ... anyone???

Calz
10th March 2015, 16:25
Can you provide a link to this discussion please CALZ? I have already worked with several people that have been convinced that they are "Reptilian" souls incarnated in Human bodies (Disturbing them DEEPLY until they realized this was not true) by this person and a Couple of women who were told they were his wife in another life when he was one of a few famous characters from the Old Testament...

Big thread and I need to head off to sleepy zone soon ... but I will find it tonight at work ... patience please.

GoodETxSG
10th March 2015, 16:35
GoodET on the Blue Avians and Bonnie Myer thread stated-



I am assuming that one of the SSP's is going to be picking him up and flying away with him for a meeting or meetings, and am anticipating the new information and experiences he will be able to impart to us.

I am also awed by the amount of information he has brought forward already, and it is difficult to be completely mindful of all that has been shared, and to ask relevant and as yet unasked questions. So I think I'll throw it back to GoodET. GoodET, what subjects are still a mystery to you? What would you like to know more about?

I have a lot fewer questions today... But that is a good one. With all I am processing right now it may take me a while to respond properly. :)

DNA
10th March 2015, 16:40
She describes a typical NDE. I have read MANY. My question is how do we know that the Afterlife she went to is not a controlled reality, just like this one? Is all the light, love, friends and family waiting to greet you there just a SHAM, another trap to keep you further controlled, just controlled in the Afterlife?
Who controls the Afterlife, is it controlled by the Archons? I wouldn't put it past them! Is it a reincarnation trap to keep us recycling back down to Earth so they can continue to feed on the turmoil here? They control us while incarnated on Earth, then control us in the "false" Heaven in the Afterlife.??? What a deal for them. Total control and they will never cease to exist.Her testimony of how wonderful it is sure makes for a good sales pitch for the masses to seek out the "light" after they die. Do the Archons send people back to Earth on purpose, implement NDEs, to push false advertising? "You must go back, it isn't your time." Riiiiiiiight. This woman even said that her "Uncle" pushed her back into her body and told her that she must return, even though she did not want to come back. What kind of free will is that???
Like Lookbeyond, I have similar questions and await any answers that GoodETxSG may have regarding the topic.
Thank you,
Lift the Veil


I wouldn't worry about the Archons. The Archons are a part of us. Unless you are willing to do something similiar to what this kid is doing, the archon manifestation will always be a part of you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcjjxDFEVjk

I've read the Nag Hummadi, and I've read John Lash's work.
There are very few mentions in the Nag Hummadi of Archons, but there are quite a few of the blind idiot god yaldaboath.
For me, all matter and creation as we know it, 3-D, is Yaldaboath, the god-ling who was created by Sophia. For me, Yaldaboath represents a vibration and or energy, but can actually be a real entity. All those vibrating at the rate of Yaldaboath are indeed a part of Yaldaboath and there for are incorporated into his being while being incarnated here.

If we vibrate out of the Yaldaboath realm, we may indeed enter the realm of his mother Sophia.

I think folks are focusing on the Archons a little to much and in my opinion creating an external foe where there shouldn't be one.

In my mind it is all about Yaldaboath, and he is in fact feeding on our consciousness through the archons, but the archons are not so much greys in space craft, but rather reverse umbilical cords that attach to us and syphon our energy to Yaldaboath.

The umbilical cords cannot be removed through confrontation, but rather, through changing your vibration and raising yourself out of the realm ruled by Yaldaboath.

The one thing to remember is this.
We are free souls who chose to be born in this belly of Yaldaboath. We came here for the challange the archons provide, which is our ego.
Most of us here have had moments when we transcended the ego, but for the most part it always returns and reattaches to us.
The only exception being extreme solitary monks.
Our souls pass out of the Yaldaboath being upon death, and so to does our attachement through the archons.

donk
10th March 2015, 17:20
Nope.

Referring to the suggestion from several that heading down that tunnel of light with your passed relatives and friends beaconing and those wonderful vibes might not be such a good thing after all.


I don't know donk ... how could I?


It just kinda ****es me off that as soon as I get into a comfort zone ... a happy space ... yeah nde proves we go on ... perhaps it isn't quite that simple???


... or ... anyone???

Dude, I can’t even get past the suspicion that bringing the idea to the awareness of the collective consciousness isn’t some form of psyop/”weaponization of information” to get to thinking about the possibility of any truth to it.

Of course, I’m more interested in the actual transmission of “data” than the actual “intel” itself these days…so I got sit that one out for now….I’m curious…what’s the jist of the Wes P information that seems to be all the rage these days?

Elbie
10th March 2015, 18:57
. .DNA. Our souls pass out of the Yaldaboath being upon death, and so to does our attachement through the archons.

according to what wisdom or doctrine? who came up with this conclusion? thanks.


ps. imo, not many things can be further away from what you are stating here. if you are so convinced your assertion is correct, what do you make of our endless returning - eternal wheel concept? flawed and/or obsolete?

lookbeyond
10th March 2015, 19:50
Can you provide a link to this discussion please CALZ? I have already worked with several people that have been convinced that they are "Reptilian" souls incarnated in Human bodies (Disturbing them DEEPLY until they realized this was not true) by this person and a Couple of women who were told they were his wife in another life when he was one of a few famous characters from the Old Testament...

would be good to hav Simon here to discuss this with you...

DNA
10th March 2015, 21:01
according to what wisdom or doctrine? who came up with this conclusion? thanks.


ps. imo, not many things can be further away from what you are stating here. if you are so convinced your assertion is correct, what do you make of our endless returning - eternal wheel concept? flawed and/or obsolete?

I'm not sure how to answer that shortly.

How about this, there are thousands of sources that talk about a spirit world being visited and or lived in after death, and before your next life, but very few speak of the prison planet.
So I'm not so sure why you choose to align yourself with the thought that we have no say in being here.

We are born with the innate ability to establish wether something is truth or something is false when we hear it.
I would just go with that.
What feels right for you?

Michael Newton in his "Journey of the Souls" books is an excellent place to visit in support of a heaven world we visit in between lives, and understanding that it is "BY CHOICE" we are born here.


If we really get into this we will need to start a new thread. I don't want to derail what is going on here.

DNA
10th March 2015, 21:05
would be good to hav Simon here to discuss this with you...


I'm not a fan of Simon's material.
Just for the record, he struck me as a dark dude.

And this was before I learned of his trying to create a stable of accolytes via the abuse of his trust.

Elbie
10th March 2015, 22:52
I'm not sure how to answer that shortly.

How about this, there are thousands of sources that talk about a spirit world being visited and or lived in after death, and before your next life, but very few speak of the prison planet.
So I'm not so sure why you choose to align yourself with the thought that we have no say in being here.

We are born with the innate ability to establish wether something is truth or something is false when we hear it.
I would just go with that.
What feels right for you?

Michael Newton in his "Journey of the Souls" books is an excellent place to visit in support of a heaven world we visit in between lives, and understanding that it is "BY CHOICE" we are born here.

If we really get into this we will need to start a new thread. I don't want to derail what is going on here.

thanks..no need for a separate thread. if it works for you, fine, it's your intimate understanding.

i first thought that when hou said:

. Our souls pass out of the Yaldaboath being upon death, and so to does our attachement through the archons..

that you were basing it on some specific extended knowledge, rather than you postulating that human beings know the truth when facing it/ being told.
i, on the contary, think that humans are woefully bad at seeing the truth ..too easy to be lied to as we have been throughout millenia.

re your notion that we are coming back according to our wishes : frankly, that's all stories you either choose are credible or not..even if so, the question remains, why is it that humans end up in a recycling plant beeing pontificated to from scratch by "superior elders", overseers or some such ascended beings.

but again, imo you are right in implying it's a matter of beleif.. many, including muself, are not into biliefs. i prefer to know, or else admit i don't.

thanks again.

DNA
10th March 2015, 23:20
thanks..no need for a separate thread. if it works for you, fine, it's your intimate understanding.

i first thought that when hou said:
.

that you were basing it on some specific extended knowledge, rather than you postulating that human beings know the truth when facing it/ being told.

I'm not basing my opinions simply one one postulation, but for the sake of brevity I stated this.
If you are so convinced otherwise, please share your extended knowledge as to how you came to such conclusians.
You seem to want others to back their opinions up with the certified seal of some bonified author. LOL
As for myself, I've mentioned that I've read the Nag Hummadi and I think there is a difference in that statement compared with I listened to what John Lash told me about the Nag Hummadi.
The Gnostics of old valued experiential data above all else.
And in this area, I've accumulated not a little bit.
I've mentioned Michael Newton's "Journey of the soul" books.
I've given you the Pam Reynolds video, of which you chose to see loving relatives who greeted her as tricksters and agents of the demiurge.

So please Elbie,, enlighten me as to where you have been given this information regarding earth as a prison planet and our souls trapped here for eternity, because it really sounds like scientology. L Ron Hubbard is the first author of note to make this opinion popular. I'm of the opinion that L. Ron Hubbard is full of crap, but to each their own.



i, on the contary, think that humans are woefully bad at seeing the truth ..too easy to be lied to as we have been throughout millenia.

re your notion that we are coming back according to our wishes : frankly, that's all stories you either choose are credible or not..

My opinion comes from first hand experience, through helping spirits cross over to the other side.

I've also been witness to a shadow being I helped cross over.
It is from this experience that I dare say there might in fact be a danger from not crossing over to the other side.

Maunagarjana
11th March 2015, 01:09
However one of the many questions (So many questions) that was asked was... "Is there a "Soul Trap" setup for us after we die?"

The response was that the "The only traps we encounter in life and after are the ones we have set for ourselves". "The idea that there is a soul trap at the end of a white lite was a psyop and a distortion set in place that we can then create with the creative force of our consciousness". "This is the intent of the creation of this distortion".


Ha, I knew it! I've been trying to tell people this for a while. It's just not the way the universe works. I can't believe I ever took that idea seriously. That's what people get when they draw from questionable information sources like the charlatan Robert Morning Sky, or outright hoaxes like The Alien Interview (fiction) by Lawrence Spencer. It's just another thing Wes Penre is wrong about. And you think Simon Parkes couldn't be given false information about this by reptilians and mantids? Come on. Sometimes the most insidious psyops are the ones we perform on ourselves.

Seikou-Kishi
11th March 2015, 02:04
I'm of the opinion that L. Ron Hubbard is full of crap, but to each their own.

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/47090957.jpg

jcocks
11th March 2015, 04:28
Ha, I knew it! I've been trying to tell people this for a while. It's just not the way the universe works. I can't believe I ever took that idea seriously. That's what people get when they draw from questionable information sources like the charlatan Robert Morning Sky, or outright hoaxes like The Alien Interview (fiction) by Lawrence Spencer. It's just another thing Wes Penre is wrong about. And you think Simon Parkes couldn't be given false information about this by reptilians and mantids? Come on. Sometimes the most insidious psyops are the ones we perform on ourselves.

I wouldn't say that Wes was wrong. It is there, and many people report seeing it and going through it. The point being made is that it was information deliberately disseminated to us so that we would then create the white light etc...It's a fully man-made construct... A self-fulfilling prophecy of the afterlife, if you will.

Calz
11th March 2015, 04:43
Can you provide a link to this discussion please CALZ? I have already worked with several people that have been convinced that they are "Reptilian" souls incarnated in Human bodies (Disturbing them DEEPLY until they realized this was not true) by this person and a Couple of women who were told they were his wife in another life when he was one of a few famous characters from the Old Testament...


Sorry. Just remembered that is a "members only" thread so I cannot honor your request.

I hope you understand.

Maunagarjana
11th March 2015, 06:10
I wouldn't say that Wes was wrong. It is there, and many people report seeing it and going through it. The point being made is that it was information deliberately disseminated to us so that we would then create the white light etc...It's a fully man-made construct... A self-fulfilling prophecy of the afterlife, if you will.

Yes, not a negative ET technology, as many people have insisted. But the way I see it, when it comes to such experiences, it's just the nature of "timespace". Everything about the afterlife is like that, because it is a thought responsive environment in many ways, and we can enter consensus realities that have been constructed by deeply held belief systems, and shared belief systems. This is as it should be, and the design of the Logos, not a sinister trap as many people are inclined to believe. Anyway, this thread could easily turn into a discussion about this one topic if we're not careful.

lift the veil
11th March 2015, 13:49
Yes, not a negative ET technology, as many people have insisted. But the way I see it, when it comes to such experiences, it's just the nature of "timespace". Everything about the afterlife is like that, because it is a thought responsive environment in many ways, and we can enter consensus realities that have been constructed by deeply held belief systems, and shared belief systems. This is as it should be, and the design of the Logos, not a sinister trap as many people are inclined to believe. Anyway, this thread could easily turn into a discussion about this one topic if we're not careful.

How do we know it as it should be? How do we know who designed it? How do we know it is not a sinister trap?

I understand that the Afterlife is extremely thought-responsive. I have read many, many NDEs and also followed OBE experiencers who give dramatic evidence to this in the Astral and other lower realms. My point is that these "Heavens," that indeed are consensus realities, ARE THE TRAP. They are OVERSEEN by beings who seem to have a HIGHER authority, such as COUNCILS and GUIDES. Newly deceased individuals find themselves in front of these councils who assess/review the life of the individual and "HELP" the person in INTERPRETING the LESSONS of their previous life and then go on to further guide them in their next INCARNATION.

Who are these COUNCILS AND GUIDES? Why do they need to GUIDE a person in their "soul development". What happened to our free-will? Why do we have to meet with these councils and listen to their guidance? Guidance that would influence what we decide to do next with our soul. It sounds like a passive-aggressive control system to me. Even though the soul may make the choice of how to incarnate next, they have been influenced (subtle mind control) in how to make that choice.

Seems to me, if a group of beings know we can manifest our reality in the afterlife, they could co-opt such a reality and put themselves in positions of power such as the COUNCIL, and as GUIDES so that can keep souls on the reincarnation cycle down to EARTH. Are these COUNCILS and GUIDES service to self beings that use the group consensus "heaven" reality as a MECHANISM to maintain control? Create (false) religions on Earth and then create (false) heavens in the afterlife and you have got yourself a perfect recycling system.

So essentially, YES we have created a consensus reality TRAP, and we trap ourselves if we go along with this AFTERLIFE system and follow the herd mentality of what is laid out before us complete with the welcome wagon, guides and family.

My question is can we avoid such consensus realities all together and go above/avoid these "false" heavens and get to a place where we alone get to just be and decide for ourselves where to go and what to do? True FREE WILL. No councils, no guides, no angels, no system that stinks of hierarchy.

This is all I have to say about this topic here on this thread. I do not want to further clutter GoodETxSG work. Maybe someone could start an "Afterlife Thread" where further discussion could occur.

Ria
11th March 2015, 15:28
I'v been :ha:LOL just seeing all those people wipped out of bed, how embarrassing to think of all the things you may or may not be wearing anything at all. You will all have to go to bed wearing your Sunday best:belief:

Fuego Del Monte
11th March 2015, 15:54
I like your information and the way you manage it (sorry about it making you a flak magnet), and found the material on the soul trap to be most helpful, as I've been looking for anyone who would speak to that authoritively after hearing Simon Parkes' assertion. Glad I was on the dock when the first barrels came in so that I could catch a glimpse of what would be on tap, and hope things calm down enough for you and your team to expand upon that. Add my voice to the clamor of "good job" & "thanks".

Calz
11th March 2015, 16:51
I like your information and the way you manage it (sorry about it making you a flak magnet), and found the material on the soul trap to be most helpful, as I've been looking for anyone who would speak to that authoritively after hearing Simon Parkes' assertion. Glad I was on the dock when the first barrels came in so that I could catch a glimpse of what would be on tap, and hope things calm down enough for you and your team to expand upon that. Add my voice to the clamor of "good job" & "thanks".

Welcome to the forum

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norman
12th March 2015, 00:49
When the "Sphere Alliance Beings" requested me By Name (I was told) there were more than a few unhappy people inside the "Programs" (AND apparently within the "Ufology" community) and there was even some resistance or "push back" by these groups.

"G"


I think that serves us all very well to see exactly who is and isn't a long way down the info directive food chain. The last to honor a new directive must be the last on the chain, me thinks.

Elbie
12th March 2015, 09:58
I'v been :ha:LOL just seeing all those people wipped out of bed, how embarrassing to think of all the things you may or may not be wearing anything at all. You will all have to go to bed wearing your Sunday best:belief:


ria man, this makes a justifiable concern/warning :hilarious:

really, you don't want to be wisked out of bed with your leisureware from aldi's on

Highland1
12th March 2015, 13:53
ria man, this makes a justifiable concern/warning :hilarious:

really, you don't want to be wisked out of bed with your leisureware from aldi's on

It would be Elbie, if indeed she was a man! :hilarious:

Russ

Calz
12th March 2015, 15:43
Yes, there had been occasion when I had been walking around in my night time attire with my hair all sticking up and bare footed. It does deter one from sleeping in the "Buff" for sure. I think everyone has had those dreams of being at Work or at the Mall and suddenly realize you are naked... :)
Thank fully that has not occurred to me in any of these encounters with "Human Pickup's" over the years.


I have been showing very uncharacteristic restraint on contributing to this meme with some hilarious images ...

nuff said ...

Highland1
12th March 2015, 17:18
I have been showing very uncharacteristic restraint on contributing to this meme with some hilarious images ...

nuff said ...


Don't hold back on this Calz, humour you must!


Russ

Calz
12th March 2015, 17:34
Don't hold back on this Calz, humour you must!


Russ


... and we are trying to convince the Blue Avians we are ready to raise our consciousness??? :fpalm:


http://www.pic4ever.com/images/pop.gif


Forgive me father for I have sinned ( ... but that damned Russ fellow made me do it ... I am a victim ... helpless ... )


I'll give you the "pg" version without the model eh???


http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/495172073/Free-Shipping-Men-s-Sexy-Underwear-Men-s-Sexy-Funny-underwear-Avant-garde-elephant-nasal-underwear.jpg

lift the veil
12th March 2015, 18:20
... and we are trying to convince the Blue Avians we are ready to raise our consciousness??? :fpalm:


http://www.pic4ever.com/images/pop.gif


Forgive me father for I have sinned ( ... but that damned Russ fellow made me do it ... I am a victim ... helpless ... )


I'll give you the "pg" version without the model eh???


http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/495172073/Free-Shipping-Men-s-Sexy-Underwear-Men-s-Sexy-Funny-underwear-Avant-garde-elephant-nasal-underwear.jpg

Eeew...Thank goodness it is not being modeled. :shocked: I would have up-chucked on my keyboard. :vom: Yes, I am a bit of a prude. :eek:

lookbeyond
13th March 2015, 06:26
a truthseeking prude?- no such thing :)

Ria
13th March 2015, 09:06
I would like every one to be a little circumspect with Delors material.
I too have thought well of it.
My reasons: A mother had a almost blind child who she wonted to help after much research she decided to take her son back in time to a point where he was no longer blind, based on a Delors exercise.
The child was taken over and other voices that came through him saying they were going to take him, the mother tryed to get help in every way she could, long story short.
The end result was the boy stabbed the mother to death in front of his younger sibling.
The boy is now in a secure fercillity.

I do not discount her body of work, but do advise to be circumspect.

Maunagarjana
13th March 2015, 10:24
I would like every one to be a little circumspect with Delors material.
I too have thought well of it.
My reasons: A mother had a almost blind child who she wonted to help after much research she decided to take her son back in time to a point where he was no longer blind, based on a Delors exercise.
The child was taken over and other voices that came through him saying they were going to take him, the mother tryed to get help in every way she could, long story short.
The end result was the boy stabbed the mother to death in front of his younger sibling.
The boy is now in a secure fercillity.

I do not discount her body of work, but do advise to be circumspect.


Cool story.....but, um....citations, please? Also, her name was Dolores.

Elbie
13th March 2015, 10:42
I would like every one to be a little circumspect with Delors material.
I too have thought well of it.
My reasons: A mother had a almost blind child who she wonted to help after much research she decided to take her son back in time to a point where he was no longer blind, based on a Delors exercise.
The child was taken over and other voices that came through him saying they were going to take him, the mother tryed to get help in every way she could, long story short.
The end result was the boy stabbed the mother to death in front of his younger sibling.
The boy is now in a secure fercillity.

I do not discount her body of work, but do advise to be circumspect.

agree wholeheartedly..by all means study her material but pay a very close attention to what she is saying and NOT saying and conveying.

some 3-4 yeras ago ,i sat right opposite the desk where she was book signing and asked a simple logical question. .no answer.

canon never trained as a medic or psychiatrist, she is self taught and was married to a high ranking military person. lots more can be argued re her practice, but would probably fit a new thread better. i am not interested in starting it though.

Seikou-Kishi
13th March 2015, 13:08
Also, her name was Dolores.

You're new here so it is probably a lack of knowledge and not a lack of magnanimity that causes you to make no allowances for dyslexia, but now you know :-).

Maunagarjana
13th March 2015, 21:23
The thing about Dolores's techniques is you don't have to trust her. She's trained hundreds of people around the world who have used her methods and gotten their own results. She was just the trailblazer who stumbled onto this approach and is the most visible one because she published a lot of books, so it's not all about her. Sorry about nitpicking about spelling, but when somebody is sharing some completely unsubstantiated rumor about something that reflects badly on someone, but they can't get the persons name right, it's a bit of a red flag to me. My apologies. But I'm still waiting for some sort of source for this horror story above. I've looked all over the web and can find nothing about this incident.

Ria
13th March 2015, 22:26
The thing about Dolores's techniques is you don't have to trust her. She's trained hundreds of people around the world who have used her methods and gotten their own results. She was just the trailblazer who stumbled onto this approach and is the most visible one because she published a lot of books, so it's not all about her. Sorry about nitpicking about spelling, but when somebody is sharing some completely unsubstantiated rumor about something that reflects badly on someone, but they can't get the persons name right, it's a bit of a red flag to me. My apologies. But I'm still waiting for some sort of source for this horror story above. I've looked all over the web and can find nothing about this incident.
Firstly I do not assign blame, just advise to be careful.
I'm not going into the details of what I know, the people concerned don't need the attention. The death was reported in the papers a while back, but obviously the papers would not know the back ground to what went on.

Aralia
13th March 2015, 22:31
Very Interesting,

A Thread of this order sounds like a good idea. When I was sent this link I knew nothing really about her other than 1. Recognized Her Name 2. She had recently "Passed On".

My disclaimer goes w/her as with all sources of material including my own. Use your own discernment... Always. :)

"G"

Is there a connection between The Custodians Dolores claimed she was able to contact through different individuals and the Custodian ETs you have written about?

Maunagarjana
13th March 2015, 23:27
Is there a connection between The Custodians Dolores claimed she was able to contact through different individuals and the Custodian ETs you have written about?

For those wondering what you're talking about.... http://projectavalon.net/Dolores_Cannon_The_Custodians.pdf

Ria
14th March 2015, 14:57
Just a surgeston, ask the mods to remove Dolores material to another thread, and keep on topic. :)

DNA
15th March 2015, 08:12
I would like every one to be a little circumspect with Delors material.
I too have thought well of it.
My reasons: A mother had a almost blind child who she wonted to help after much research she decided to take her son back in time to a point where he was no longer blind, based on a Delors exercise.
The child was taken over and other voices that came through him saying they were going to take him, the mother tryed to get help in every way she could, long story short.
The end result was the boy stabbed the mother to death in front of his younger sibling.
The boy is now in a secure fercillity.

I do not discount her body of work, but do advise to be circumspect.

I"m not a fan of Delores and this is freaking blasphemy to some.

I always find people suspect when they can't admit we live in a predatory universe.
I highly value pragmatism, and those without it, seem to me are living in a fantasy land.

Shadowself
16th March 2015, 01:31
By the way, glad to see you on TOT. I followed that disinfo thread on PA "Blue Avians" and liked the posts a few of you with level heads were posting... Some others were posting things that were incorrect ("SSelf" putting up DW posting a satellite explosion on 2/27 when this was "Before DW's Interview, What am I to think" when the C2C interview was on 2/25, and she is a major researcher and doesn't make those types of mistakes etc...) It was on and on.

But all that aside I think your posts and views will be treated with the respect they deserve here. Even though there are people that obviously have problems with the info I am posting they have for the most part been courteous and unless they were doing "Cross Forum Attacks" have treated me well. I like what you have to bring to the conversation when I agree with you or not (Like a couple of others who are now here). :)

I stand corrected...


she is a major researcher and doesn't make those types of mistakes etc...



Believe me I've made plenty of mistakes...particularly judgement in character and sharing information with people I don't know. Imagine my surprise.

BelieveInHumanity
16th March 2015, 10:59
Thank you G for the wonderful thread. You are doing fantastic work. :h5:
I myself fell into the worship mode many times, and gave my attention to false prophets, i think people with religious background are more susceptible to it.

When there is a void, laws of nature allow propagation of diffusion to fill it in, but there is no filter to keep fallacies out and truths in.

Humanity suffers from lots of voids of knowledge and wisdom, that is why whoever filled the voids in History and current days with miracles, prophecies and spells could indeed manipulate truth, and as 'side effect' gain worship from unsuspecting victims let it be individuals, groups and even nations.

It is this new era of information, given to us by the Orb beings and their allies that will change the course of humanity, as humanity is an ally of the good ones, without the forced layers of deception, genetic manipulation and mind control, our core is Service To Others.
Thank you G!

Tarpan
16th March 2015, 14:15
Focus daily on becoming of more "Service to Others", to Forgive (Let go of Karma) and LOVE to raise our vibratory state of being to match the changes that are already occurring to our Solar System.
(...)
I too was a victim of this recently and had some VERY sensitive information of my own dispersed... It is upsetting to say the least.


Wishing you well the very best, G.
After the upsetting events you describe, may your scars heal, may you forgive, find peace and move on.
Thanks for all what you are sharing.
T.

Elbie
16th March 2015, 22:55
Comment by dwilcock on March 17, 2015 @ 2:10 am



Comment by dwilcock on March 17, 2015 @ 2:08 am

twice you reference DW statements of march 17th, with time stamps.

any significance, or an error?

we are still in the 16th

also, may i please know what went on on 3-11? what event is this impying? thanks


.

norman
16th March 2015, 23:00
also, may i please know what went on on 3-11? what event is this impying? thanks


.


It was the Japan earthquake and tsunami.

GoodETxSG
16th March 2015, 23:29
twice you reference DW statements of march 17th, with time stamps.

any significance, or an error?

we are still in the 16th

also, may i please know what went on on 3-11? what event is this impying? thanks


.

You have to remember there is an International Day/Time Zone... That Occurs in the middle of the ocean that separates Dates/Times so the Calender Works...

Fulford/Japan... Those are the time stamps from his Forum/Server Hosted in Japan...

Actually this comes up almost every time someone publishes posts from Fulfords Blogs on other web sites... :)

Elbie
16th March 2015, 23:45
You have to remember there is an International Day/Time Zone... That Occurs in the middle of the ocean that separates Dates/Times so the Calender Works...

Fulford/Japan... Those are the time stamps from his Forum/Server Hosted in Japan...

Actually this comes up almost every time someone publishes posts from Fulfords Blogs on other web sites... :)


so, he said what he did yesterday/today, which is the 17th? middle of the ocean? please confirm. would be grateful if you let me have a link so i can learn how to calculate this. thanks.


G:That is Fulfords new assertion... Which is totally off base. This was not an Alliance Attack but a Cabal Based Attack. This statement has DW, Myself and many people in the Alliance very puzzled....

so what did happen on 3-11 if not the earthquacke&tsunami according to the alliance? thanks again.

GoodETxSG
16th March 2015, 23:47
so, he said what he did yesterday/today, which is the 17th? middle of the ocean? please confirm. would be grateful if you let me have a link so i can learn how to calculate this. thanks.

Click on the link to Fulford's web site which is in the original link... its there...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPpWCTHjzQI

Elbie
16th March 2015, 23:58
Click on the link to Fulford's web site which is in the original link... its there...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPpWCTHjzQI

oh i think i get what you mean: it's already march 17th in japan where ben lives..

but it isn't where DW resides..this is what i found so puzzling..

never mind..not that important.

GoodETxSG
17th March 2015, 00:05
oh i think i get what you mean: it's already march 17th in japan where ben lives..

but it isn't where DW resides..this is what i found so puzzling..

never mind..not that important.

It doesn't matter where the person making the post is located... It has to do with WHERE the Web Site Host Server Is located... and Ben's server is in Japan... that is where the time stamps are recorded... Just to be clear for everyone... :)

Fuego Del Monte
17th March 2015, 17:18
That is Fulfords new assertion... Which is totally off base. This was not an Alliance Attack but a Cabal Based Attack. This statement has DW, Myself and many people in the Alliance very puzzled....

I can't find it to properly cite it, so I'm not planting a flag here, but I recall reading in David's material his mentioning that he was aware that he and Ben differed in their manner/method/approach to publicizing intel, saying that Ben's milieu required him to make pragmatic choices in furtherance of his goal. I came away with 'you gotta play the game to stay in the game', and was given to understand that sometimes Ben would mislead me in order to get us all to where we want to be.

TrumanLCash
17th March 2015, 17:30
Hi, GoodET. I love the things you are saying about the way things could be. To that extent you are "preaching the choir" so to speak. I've been on this path since the 1970s. I've devoted many years to exposing "the Fed", the international banksters, secret societies, et al, ad nauseum.

I even went two years without using Federal Reserve Notes (aka Federal Reserve Auditing Unit Denominations or "FRAUDs"). That's when I really found out what people are really like. Ever try going two years telling people that you won't accept their Federal Reserve Notes? People react very negatively to that and then you find out who your friends really are.

I am very well aware of US Code Title 42, Section 666 and am aware of what Nick Rockefeller told to his "friend" Aaron Russo about the goal being a cashless society with everyone chipped. As you may know, the slave system under the aforementioned Section 666 is based in the US on the social security number, which is voluntary. So one could pose the rhetorical question--If it's voluntary how could it be a "slave" system. Although the US Constitution prohibits "involuntary servitude" it does not prohibit voluntary servitude.

I believe in walking the walk. I have long since revoked the slave social security number that was given to me by my parents. I live as a natural man, outside of the slave system. I do not own anything. I am not employed and I do not have an income. I am not waiting for change, I am the change.

My point that I was making is that although I could certainly handle such a world, I've been around long enough to see where most people are at, and I don't see how they are just suddenly going to understand these issues (or want to understand them).

So I would be very interested if you might take the time to address the questions I posed in my post. I would very much like to know how such a system could be implemented. Given the dumbed-down state of being of mankind, I am at a lost as to how such a system or way of life could be implemented. I've been trying to wake people up for a long time, and it seems at times like I'm beating my head against a wall.

Peace, Love, Joy and All That Good Stuff,
Truman

Fuego Del Monte
17th March 2015, 20:00
This latest statement by Fulford is raising a LOT of eyebrows... Why the flip flop on this info? An explanation is in order IMHO...

Here is the citation I alluded to previously, found at <http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1166-russian-tv-underground-bases>:

NOT ALL OF FULFORD'S LEAKS ARE TRUTHFUL

Fulford has certainly attracted a great deal of controversy -- publishing a weekly newsletter where he leaks a wide variety of inside information.

Not all of this information is credible. A variety of claims are made that end up being untrue.

Fulford hears information and passes it along. Some of it comes from clearly compromised sources. He leaves it up to you to decide what you want to believe.

Although there has been BS in his reports, many of his leaks have stood the test of time.

In my own case, I try to only reveal information that I feel is coming from the most reliable, impeccable sources.

If it's "second best" it doesn't make it here. If I catch an insider lying to me or spreading disinformation, they don't get a second chance.

<-- end of quote -->

So, yeah, a grain of salt inre Ben is what David appears to be saying in this post dated Aug 6, 2014.

In rereading it now, I see that my summation posted above made acute assumptions as to Why, however I am correct in noting that BF's behavior is not new nor to be unexpected.

modwiz
17th March 2015, 21:17
What is causing confusion is that there is heavy evidence that there was direct involvement by what some call the "CABAL" in causing the 3-11 Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster... Putin is a part of the Alliance... This latest statement by Fulford is raising a LOT of eyebrows... Why the flip flop on this info? An explanation is in order IMHO...

I think Alexander Romanov, a compromised bi-alliance figure, gave Ben this Putin disinfo.

Fuego Del Monte
17th March 2015, 21:33
So how can I or anyone know what their real intentions are?

I appreciate that I approach the philosophical here when I say that, until we can know the mind of another, we cannot know anyone's true intentions, even when we witness their follow-through of deeds from words, for actions can be feints within feints, and as much as I am dazzled by his information, there is nothing that GoodET has offered here that has dispelled my deepest doubts.

I accept that he believes his experiences, and that he is truthfully relating them, but the best that I can say upon reading it is that apparently there is someone who is watching the Watchmen, a thought which, to be fair, greatly amuses me.

Nevertheless, there remains in the corner of my mind Rod Serling's caution: It's a cookbook!

I can say that we are not without the hope of knowing what is in the mind of another, for I myself have made telepathic contact with another species: ants, as remarkable a claim as that may be (long story made VERY short: I loathed doing battle in the kitchen; I asked them to leave; they happily agreed to do so and did, immediately).

My point here is that there are other ways of knowing available to us, and that it is through these other methods that we might find the certitude we desire.

The task of developing those methods, well, that seems to be the hard work I know I would rather not have to do if only I could whole-heartedly believe that someone else was going to take care of business, which, I honestly admit, I really really wish was the case.

But were that the case, it would be just as bad a fix: I want to do it for myself and participate, not buy a ticket to ride.

[Humorous aside: the Beatle's 'ticket to ride' was a certificate of health given to prostitutes.]

Fuego Del Monte
17th March 2015, 21:54
So far it has been interesting to observe people even trying to "Chew and Swallow" let alone "Digest" the little information presented thus far...
"G"

Yeah, well, I've come to the table famished, and I've got my big pants on, so serve it up! ;-)

GoodETxSG
17th March 2015, 22:09
Yeah, well, I've come to the table famished, and I've got my big pants on, so serve it up! ;-)

Well,
If you have already eaten what is on your plate you will be more than ready for what is going to be coming out through DW over the next few weeks. Some will upset your stomach and some will be better than fine dessert...

Maunagarjana
17th March 2015, 23:05
If they said "It is all up to us", then why would they have a "plan" for us to implement a new world cashless system? Aren't they speaking out of both sides of their mouth?

Maybe think of it like this....perhaps it's not a matter of a new system being imposed on us, as you are envisioning. Maybe it's more a matter of them planning for a new system organically and it naturally arising within a very loose and adaptable framework once the old system has been dismantled. I know you will most likely interpret the word "framework" in the most sinister way possible. But if you can't see how something like that would ease the transition into a new workable way of doing things, then I'm just glad that you are not involved in planning these things out, because I would bet your way would be a disaster in the short term.

With the availability of certain technologies mentioned (energy/healing/food replication, etc) certain old ways of doing things will become immediately obsolete. Now, there's many ways things can go from that point. And I'm sure we all have our visions of what might come of that. I think people vastly underestimate the social ramifications of free energy. With abundant energy production, and with people being unshackled from oil, gas, coal, nuclear, etc., the landscape of possibilities will look quite different when it comes to every aspect of society.

Everyone would be able to generate vast surpluses of energy. This virtually eliminates dependency on government and corporations. But there may be some uses for these things in a limited way, but nothing resembling how they were before. I would envision many people choosing to form co-ops where they voluntarily pool their surplus energy resources in order to use it in vast projects that would benefit everyone. Energy itself could become a unit of exchange, if exchange is required in a certain situation.

So what I am trying to say is....you are reflexively assuming that the alliance has this rigid system they want to install, rather than a loose framework designed to anticipate the social ramifications of these actions. And much of the ramifications are actually pretty predictable, up to a point. In the way I see things, it would be completely irresponsible of them not to have such plans. For instance, it would be irresponsible to not anticipate how things can become chaotic and cause great harm. Do you really think that is a minor issue? Is there some point where your pragmatism overcomes your paranoia and you see some sort of planning as being not only beneficial but necessary?



Also, I'm curious why you would label China (being one of the BRICs nations) as a "white hat" given all their human rights abuses?

IIRC, both Wilcock and Fulford has specifically said that when they talk about the alliance including these nations, they are not talking about their governments. That's a common misconception. So, who are they talking about? Of course, you want to know who these people are. But considering that they are in the middle of a war, and they are working under very necessary conditions of the utmost secrecy, I would say there is zero chance that you will get a list of names and a chance to grill them all to see if they pass muster when it comes your philosophical ideals. You must realize what they are up against. Put yourself in their shoes for a moment. If any liberation effort were going to succeed, things would have to be done in a certain stages, I would think. You're getting a bit ahead of things, I think. In the stage we are at now, the priority is getting rid of the cabal and their system.

TrumanLCash
17th March 2015, 23:24
Maybe think of it like this....perhaps it's not a matter of a new system being imposed on us, as you are envisioning. Maybe it's more a matter of them planning for a new system organically and it naturally arising within a very loose and adaptable framework once the old system has been dismantled. I know you will most likely interpret the word "framework" in the most sinister way possible. But if you can't see how something like that would ease the transition into a new workable way of doing things, then I'm just glad that you are not involved in planning these things out, because I would bet your way would be a disaster in the short term.

With the availability of certain technologies mentioned (energy/healing/food replication, etc) certain old ways of doing things will become immediately obsolete. Now, there's many ways things can go from that point. And I'm sure we all have our visions of what might come of that. I think people vastly underestimate the social ramifications of free energy. With abundant energy production, and with people being unshackled from oil, gas, coal, nuclear, etc., the landscape of possibilities will look quite different when it comes to every aspect of society.

Everyone would be able to generate vast surpluses of energy. This virtually eliminates dependency on government and corporations. But there may be some uses for these things in a limited way, but nothing resembling how they were before. I would envision many people choosing to form co-ops where they voluntarily pool their surplus energy resources in order to use it in vast projects that would benefit everyone. Energy itself could become a unit of exchange, if exchange is required in a certain situation.

So what I am trying to say is....you are reflexively assuming that the alliance has this rigid system they want to install, rather than a loose framework designed to anticipate the social ramifications of these actions. And much of the ramifications are actually pretty predictable, up to a point. In the way I see things, it would be completely irresponsible of them not to have such plans. For instance, it would be irresponsible to not anticipate how things can become chaotic and cause great harm. Do you really think that is a minor issue? Is there some point where your pragmatism overcomes your paranoia and you see some sort of planning as being not only beneficial but necessary?




IIRC, both Wilcock and Fulford has specifically said that when they talk about the alliance including these nations, they are not talking about their governments. That's a common misconception. So, who are they talking about? Of course, you want to know who these people are. But considering that they are in the middle of a war, and they are working under very necessary conditions of the utmost secrecy, I would say there is zero chance that you will get a list of names and a chance to grill them all to see if they pass muster when it comes your philosophical ideals. You must realize what they are up against. Put yourself in their shoes for a moment. If any liberation effort were going to succeed, things would have to be done in a certain stages, I would think. You're getting a bit ahead of things, I think. In the stage we are at now, the priority is getting rid of the cabal and their system.

Firstly, I was not posing the questions to you, Mauna.

Secondly, why do you choose to make slighting remarks about me when you don't even know me?

I'm just asking questions. Is that not allowed?

Are you a spokesperson for the "Alliance"?

Thanks,
TLC

Maunagarjana
17th March 2015, 23:43
Firstly, I was not posing the questions to you, Mauna.

Yes, true. I have taken the liberty to interject where I saw a need for it. If that is not allowed, then somebody should let me know.



Secondly, why do you choose to make slighting remarks about me when you don't even know me?

True, I don't know you. But it's not necessarily directed at you. You can take it personally if you wish. But I think at this point I have a pretty good feel for where people such as yourself are coming from. I'm sorry if my manner of communication is a bit blunt. I don't mean to be insulting or confrontational.



I'm just asking questions. Is that not allowed?

I don't make the rules here. But it seems asking all the questions you want is allowed. So is replying to questions for the sake of discussion.



Are you a spokesperson for the "Alliance"?

Not to my knowledge. But that makes me wonder, could I be one without knowing it? Hmm....food for thought. I am however someone who has been following these developments closely for years now (at least that which is publicly available).

Anyway, I don't want to divert the focus of this thread. I said what I wanted to say already.

TrumanLCash
18th March 2015, 00:02
Thanks for letting me know that you are not a spokesman for the "Alliance", Mauna. I would greatly appreciate speaking with a designated spokesperson.

TLC

Aralia
18th March 2015, 00:58
Is there a connection between The Custodians Dolores claimed she was able to contact through different individuals and the Custodian ETs you have written about?

Thanks for the reply to my previous question. I'm just wondering if this question slipped through the cracks? I can see you have a lot of information to get out so I'm thinking it did. :)

Seikou-Kishi
18th March 2015, 02:15
Hi, GoodET. I love the things you are saying about the way things could be. To that extent you are "preaching the choir" so to speak. I've been on this path since the 1970s. I've devoted many years to exposing "the Fed", the international banksters, secret societies, et al, ad nauseum.

I even went two years without using Federal Reserve Notes (aka Federal Reserve Auditing Unit Denominations or "FRAUDs"). That's when I really found out what people are really like. Ever try going two years telling people that you won't accept their Federal Reserve Notes? People react very negatively to that and then you find out who your friends really are.

I am very well aware of US Code Title 42, Section 666 and am aware of what Nick Rockefeller told to his "friend" Aaron Russo about the goal being a cashless society with everyone chipped. As you may know, the slave system under the aforementioned Section 666 is based in the US on the social security number, which is voluntary. So one could pose the rhetorical question--If it's voluntary how could it be a "slave" system. Although the US Constitution prohibits "involuntary servitude" it does not prohibit voluntary servitude.

I believe in walking the walk. I have long since revoked the slave social security number that was given to me by my parents. I live as a natural man, outside of the slave system. I do not own anything. I am not employed and I do not have an income. I am not waiting for change, I am the change.

My point that I was making is that although I could certainly handle such a world, I've been around long enough to see where most people are at, and I don't see how they are just suddenly going to understand these issues (or want to understand them).

So I would be very interested if you might take the time to address the questions I posed in my post. I would very much like to know how such a system could be implemented. Given the dumbed-down state of being of mankind, I am at a lost as to how such a system or way of life could be implemented. I've been trying to wake people up for a long time, and it seems at times like I'm beating my head against a wall.

Peace, Love, Joy and All That Good Stuff,
Truman

It also doesn't prohibit non-voluntary. The distinction between the three (voluntary, non-voluntary and involuntary) is a very important distinction. I would argue the problem is with the non-voluntary, not with the voluntary

dancing waters
18th March 2015, 03:20
I for one am hopeful and excited and have talked about this possibility with friends since the 70's. Just because we don't know how it could happen given our present 3D world doesn't mean it can't. We have no concept about what these beings can open us to. I understand the doubt and distrust given our long slavery and ongoing deceptions but, IMHO, if you keep going there then it's like continuing to contribute to the negative. Maybe we could just try these ideas on for size (big pants) and see how they feel. I can imagine an incredible world where we are all permitted to live up to our highest potential. For the ones that would be "lazy" it is because they have been raised in this system and can't fathom a world where it's not about exploitation and work, work, work. And for those that would continue to think in terms of selfishness, it seems that there will be a way to deal with them that would not permit that behavior to thrive. We have been living in a system that rewards utter selfishness which equals psychopathy and kindness seems to be viewed as a weakness to take advantage of. How would it be if generosity was rewarded and all was opposite to how it is now?

Spiral of Light
18th March 2015, 11:59
. I can imagine an incredible world where we are all permitted to live up to our highest potential. For the ones that would be "lazy" it is because they have been raised in this system and can't fathom a world where it's not about exploitation and work, work, work. And for those that would continue to think in terms of selfishness, it seems that there will be a way to deal with them that would not permit that behavior to thrive. We have been living in a system that rewards utter selfishness which equals psychopathy and kindness seems to be viewed as a weakness to take advantage of. How would it be if generosity was rewarded and all was opposite to how it is now?

It would be a very beautiful thing! And I am of the same opinion as you, Dancing Waters, that these possibilities put forward by "G" can be achieved by humanity through the Service to Others mind set.

Will it be easy? No. Is it possible? Yes, I believe it is.

With selfish, sociopathic behavior "dealt with" in a way that does not permit it to thrive (as you so eloquently put it) and with every human on the planet given the opportunity to learn, understand and apply the concept of Service to Others along with Love instead of Fear and Hate, mankind would be able to get up off our knees and stand up to face a far different reality.

We have been given our Marching Orders, and I believe that the Victory is ours. “Be the change that you wish to see in the world.” ― Mahatma Gandhi

monk
18th March 2015, 16:26
The Blue Avians stated it would get worse before it got better and that there were some rough times we as a species needed to go through in order to break free of this "Cycle" we have been placed on by our 'Manipulators" and "Custodian Beings"... We need a shocking series of events to lodge into our "Genetic Memory" to prevent us from repeating these cycles of history if we are to finally stand on our own two feet for the first time since we "Came to be"...

We are going to be put through "rough times".............so we haven't had it rough enough these past few millennia? No, we need some further trauma forced upon us so that we don't "forget to not be victims again".... Would not being told the truth be traumatic enough? No no we need to cause some kind of massive shock or horror so dastardly that those pathetic, weak-willed humans don't ever dare to exist on a planet that has been totally devoid of benevolent monitory supervision ever again!

Please by all means view this simply as an STS being twisting your words, however I try to live up to MY namesake and bear as much light as possible.

Love and happiness to all my family, if it was up to me no more humans would suffer one more moment of trauma, IMHO, but then I hold the "false belief system" that humanity has suffered enough and learned all it can from being raped, pillaged and murdered.

monk
18th March 2015, 17:32
Oh brother, what a world we would live in if information was released without ever being scrutinized?........

.....Is it indicative of those with "superior knowledge" to passive aggressively attack those who disagree? Everyone who has concerns/questions is a "fearful group of slaves"?

Love is the answer, not pigeon holing those who use their natural critical thinking abilities or labelling their thinking as "too 3D".

I love you brother so you wont get any negative inferences from me, that love is real and offered to every last human on this beautiful planet. However Those "above", for the most part, are the ones I am insistent on having to experience "rough times". Though they may be saving this planet, we are not yet 100% on who they intend to save it for.

GoodETxSG
18th March 2015, 18:17
Oh brother, what a world we would live in if information was released without ever being scrutinized?........

.....Is it indicative of those with "superior knowledge" to passive aggressively attack those who disagree? Everyone who has concerns/questions is a "fearful group of slaves"?

Love is the answer, not pigeon holing those who use their natural critical thinking abilities or labelling their thinking as "too 3D".

I love you brother so you wont get any negative inferences from me, that love is real and offered to every last human on this beautiful planet. However Those "above", for the most part, are the ones I am insistent on having to experience "rough times". Though they may be saving this planet, we are not yet 100% on who they intend to save it for.

There were no attacks, maybe some frustration to some obvious agenda's... Everythig a person perceives an attack or insult from people in these recent posts they are saying more about themselves and their locked in belief systems than they are about anyone else...

I am happy some of you have established and set belief systems and reality bubbles to sustain some of you...

If this information does not "Jive" with your realities nor will it ever then there is no point in pretending there are good intentioned questions that are really designed to try to poke holes in the information that is disagreed with... IMHO...

So, perceptions may make frustration feel like an attack but it is not intended as one. Intentions and Agenda's should be left at the "Door" if open and deep questions are going to be asked IMHO... I do not go onto other threads where I am obviously never going to agree to behave in this manner.

"G"

modwiz
18th March 2015, 18:21
You have my compassion for your work GoodeT. I am involved in something similar, although Earth based, where humainties involvement with their own liberation is met with hostility, suspicion and aggression. I do believe there is a "sizing up" going on with the question being, "Are the majority of these people worth saving from their slavery"? They seem to want to fight to keep it, unless it is on their own emotional terms. The biggest block is the one the results from an actual real world reality clashing with the various new age and awake and aware memes that have been taken for "truth". That is, subjective reality/fantasy clashing with objective real world people trying to fix the problem. With the latter working with real world facts. Like an apathetic poplulace looking for a gubmint that will still take care of them and look out for their welfare, while doing little to sustain themselves, physically or emotionally.

In many ways people are identifying themselves. Those who "get it" and those who don't. The awake and aware crowd is supposedly the best humanity has to offer regarding comprehension of higher level thought, so they are the test subject for humanity. It is not going well.

Of course, this is blamed on not satifying every curiousity of suspicious minds, often called inquiry. Self-deception is more like it.

monk
18th March 2015, 18:36
I think its fair to say there are two camps available on this forum; those who love their family and wish to see them held in loving arms and seen with understanding eyes, and those who view them with disdain and like the illuminati, doubt their very right to exist at all due to their allegedly weak and inferior minds.

modwiz
18th March 2015, 18:48
I think its fair to say there are two camps available on this forum; those who love their family and wish to see them held in loving arms and seen with understanding eyes, and those who view them with disdain and like the illuminati, doubt their very right to exist at all due to their allegedly weak and inferior minds.

The two camps are those who can understand and those that can't or refuse to.

My question is, are the "weak and inferior" minds really alleged or is there a genetic component that has to be seen for what it is? Are some people simply incapable, at the genetic level, to be more than they are? I do not have the answer, yet. Time will reveal.

If it is programming/spell, then people will either have to do it on their own or be open to being guided by others who have broken out of the larger part of the programming. Will the lost even trust those who can guide? That is an important question and one that will have implications and consequences. Consequences being a neutal term. Actions, or lack of them, produce consequences. For good or ill depends on the action and perception.

monk
18th March 2015, 18:53
My question is, are the "weak and inferior" minds really alleged or is there a genetic component that has to be seen for what it is?

I hate to point out the painfully obvious but without meeting everyone on planet earth how could you ever be sure?

It is a choice, view humanity with love and unending patience, or do not. Simple.

http://www.bewellbarroncounty.org/wp-content/uploads/healthy-heart.jpg

modwiz
18th March 2015, 19:21
I hate to point out the painfully obvious but without meeting everyone on planet earth how could you ever be sure?


There are representative samplings, and the awake and aware crowd seem to be pleased with themselves regarding their sentience. Self-deception is hard to overcome without the will to investigate oneself. Thoroughly.

Despite our slavery, some very common people are keeping their heads above water and doing well enough within onerous circumstances. The more people hold onto their dis-empowerment the more they make it an abiding reality. Creating our own reality is dismissed by many and therein lies a large part of the problem. People can see it or ignore it.

I know the time is approaching that the pleas of those who do not want to help themselves will be increasingly ignored in measure to to message of delivery being ignored. One might call it karma. Self-empowerment is our natural station in life. It starts with the self. The selling of the dis-empowered self will not find many buyers with those who have done their work and broken through the supposed impossible burden the cabal has put upon us.

I have said it before, elites are self-organizing. When there is work to be done there are those who show up and those with excuses. Those who show up form into the "doers", the providers, with the rest looking for a piece of the pie they had no hand in. Needless to say, this does cause friction between those who responded to the call to service and those who wish to be serviced. Things can, and have, gotten ugly.

There are a few who are incapable of self care and they are best administered to locally by friends and family, not gubmints. The truly incapable are managable and will get care. The emotionally infirmed are another story. I know excuses can be made for them too, by the emotionally handicapped and their enablers.

It is time for people to get off their knees as Icke wrote as a book title some years ago. A handful have heeded his message.

By all means. amuse yourself with hearts pumping iron to try and put words to a situation one does not have the personal ability to put into coherent thoughts. Thoughts not dependent on emotional talking points but, an actual summation of where we find ourselves at this time in history.

Try expressing deep thoughts, not emotions, in words for communication. Certain pictures are worth a thousand gooey words. :yawn:

monk
18th March 2015, 19:55
There are representative samplings

Too true, mine fill me with hope for humanity so I guess we live on different planets! LOL!

I'm sorry I don't like to use 1000 words where 100 will do, I am no great writer.

Having a strong heart is more than just amusing to me, it is everything to me, the mind truly is flawed in comparison.

You can trust your brain that tells you humanity deserves nothing, while I can trust my heart that tells me they deserve everything.

modwiz
18th March 2015, 20:05
Too true, mine fill me with hope for humanity so I guess we live on different planets! LOL!

I'm sorry I don't like to use 1000 words where 100 will do, I am no great writer.

Having a strong heart is more than just amusing to me, it is everything to me, the mind truly is flawed by comparison.

You can trust your brain that tells you humanity deserves nothing, while I can trust my heart that tells me they deserve everything.

My heart guides me, not my emotions. The heart is wise and compassionate, not emotional.

777
18th March 2015, 20:22
My heart guides me, not my emotions. The heart is wise and compassionate, not emotional.

The heart can evoke an emotional state to facilitate change, without which we are spiritually mute and the truly heartfelt expressions cannot be validated therein, lest one lives in a blinkered bubble. If a state of living by heart is to be adhered to, it's preferable that it is cognitive, not restricted by a blinkered ideal. That is not an accusation, but a proposal for all to be mindful within the constraints of their heart, mind and spirit Trinity, lest we are lead rather than lead.

Just my tuppence.....the mature discussion is valid in both angles, thank you monk and modwiz.

Maunagarjana
19th March 2015, 07:32
Would I be right in thinking that the consolidation of the Alliance has been made possible by the help of more advanced beings or was this a natural development?


This was a good question by Verum. I'd like to see it addressed. It might help to shed some light on how things have progressed up to this point.

Spiral of Light
19th March 2015, 12:34
"I see two types of 'Disclosures'.
One- A disclosure to the common person, one without major religious system, such disclosure can at first cause fear, shock but if handled carefully and gently, can bring to a new understanding of life out there.
Second- A disclosure to the religious person. In a world where more than 8 people out of 10 identify themselves with a religious group http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/18/g...andscape-exec/"

"I see it as a very big challenge to disclose anything new to people who think they know all there is about life, and 'have' already all the answers. It would require a big effort to avoid further internal mind conflict and the risks of it spilling into external violent 'fear of the unknown' based conflict.
As i understand the Orb beings and their allies are aware of the questions, and would be happy to know their take on this delicate subject to the human psych."

Great question regarding world religions.

Regarding this, I'm recalling a speech Pope Francis made last September mentioning ET in a welcoming way.
http://metro.co.uk/2014/09/24/popes-astronomer-says-et-is-out-there-and-hopes-to-baptise-alie

And in May 2014: http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/05/pope-francis-says-he-would-definitely-baptize-aliens-if-they-wanted-it/362106/

What would happen if all religious leaders adopted the same attitude worldwide? Would that lay the groundwork for the religions of the world to accept ET?

Earlier in this thread, after the last meeting, "G" mentioned the "Sphere Beings" hope to use social structures already in place to advance Service to Others concepts (not sure of his exact wording) in an effort to raise the vibratory levels of humanity. I wondered at that time if the world religions could be the social structures used in that learning process.

TaipeiSam
19th March 2015, 13:10
Religions distinguish themselves with dogma - belief systems that they try desperately to get people to accept to attract new members (tithe paying members). So you can think of such dogma as a type of institutional ego. When the ego is threatened, it thinks it's going to die and fights back with denial and defense. I think most organized religions will be the last to accept a new paradigm with ETs.

Verum
19th March 2015, 13:27
Once the lid starts to come off I think explaining all the lies, deceit, experiments and torture is a big one that will be difficult to survive for any Government, just as well because we'll need new types of leaders, fully screened - no clones, hybrids, psychopaths, bankers, lawyers, Zionists, Satanists and so on. The thing is where do you find a such a human with a pure mind and heart capable of taking humanity forward and forging relationships with other advanced beings, once we've sorted ourselves out?

I think disclosure will have to be done in a very controlled and sympathetic manner to avoid panic and unrest. Its a huge deal that will be put off to the very point where's there's no other choice. I suppose somone like Putin may disclose if he thought Nuclear exchange over Ukraine was inevitable, perhaps he's already threatened the Cabal with that.

There again its difficult to know what agreements Governments have behind the scenes, in particular, joint ventures and cooperation on the SSP.

GoodETxSG
19th March 2015, 13:41
I will come to all of these Q's ASAP. I am doing some skype interviews/debriefs and other work that has my full attention at the moment. I will be back soon.
TY,
"G"

Highland1
19th March 2015, 15:35
Seeing the masses are glued to their television or cinema screens, I would imagine the best form of disclosure would be to screen a series

of blockbusting but revealing movies to gradually and softly condition the masses as to the sheer shock of the lies that humanity has endured?

To reveal all at once, might even be too much for us mere forum mortals......:belief:

Just sayin.....

Russ

The One
19th March 2015, 16:02
Seeing the masses are glued to their television or cinema screens, I would imagine the best form of disclosure would be to screen a series

of blockbusting but revealing movies to gradually and softly condition the masses as to the sheer shock of the lies that humanity has endured?

To reveal all at once, might even be too much for us mere forum mortals......:belief:

Just sayin.....

Russ

That's why i am grateful when goodet always mentions this below.

Note: As ALWAYS with ALL information from ALL SOURCES and RESEARCHERS... Run the information through your own discernment filters. Not just match up what sounds good or already goes along with your established belief system or "Reality Bubble". Be willing to step outside of that box but always keep your "Discernment Filter" firmly in place and active... IMHO...

"G"

Aragorn
19th March 2015, 17:36
I'd like to address one little thing here -- the color emphasis is mine...



The Wes Penre Papers suggest that Jesus could be Marduk, and God could be Lucifer. I realise earth’s true history is far down the rabbit hole, but if true we’ve been inadvertently worshipping some imposters, just great. It may explain why the Vatican, Queen and others actively worship Satan, although I don’t believe Lucifer is Satan, either way they’re both negative. Again does mind control technology play a role in these belief systems and stories?

Lucifer does not exist. The name Lucifer only occurs in the King James translation of the Catholic Bible, and it is a Latin word meaning "bearer of light". In all other translations of the Catholic Bible, the term is literally translated to what the word means. The chapter of the Bible in which a certain person is named "bearer of light" and is referred to as "having fallen from Heaven" is a sarcastic letter from the apostle Peter, written to the king of Tyrus (Babylon), who was most decisively a mortal man.

The Illuminati are Luciferians, but that in itself is also a ruse which they have perpetuated onto their "lesser" members, and which blends influences from satanism with a new religion created by the upper-ranking Illuminati themselves to keep their lower-ranking members under control. In this religion, Lucifer is depicted as being a group soul from "sixth density", who was a galactic guardian, and equal in evolutionary state and power to the Biblical Jahweh/JeHoVa, who is also a group soul and galactic guardian from "sixth density".

As the Luciferian religion then goes, Jahweh/JeHoVa created Earth and the human species, but -- and I am loosely quoting the material from Hidden Hand, who appeared on the Above Top Secret forum a number of years ago and claimed to be an Illuminati insider -- because "he" was "running things like a benevolent dictator", humans were not evolving spiritually. They didn't know the difference between good and evil, and they blindly obeyed Jahweh/JeHoVa. As the story goes, Jahweh/JeHoVa then consulted Lucifer and asked "him" to assist in the spiritual growth of "his" creations, and then Lucifer incarnated here on Earth as the Illuminati "in order to teach Man what he is not". But then supposedly too many humans were actually enjoying doing evil, and Jahweh/JeHoVa, who had believed that "his" creations would have stayed faithful to "him", became outraged and confined Lucifer to Earth, so that "he" could no longer return to "sixth density".

As the ruse then continues, Lucifer allegedly consulted the Galactic Council, who gave "him" the opportunity to end "his" contract with Jahweh/JeHoVa and return to sixth density, but Lucifer then chose to stay and carry on with "his" work of "showing Man what he is not", until a great culling would happen by an impact with Earth from "Marduk the Destroyer" -- this would be the even so mythical Nibiru (Planet X) -- and then there would be an ascension, where those who are good would ascend to "fourth density positive", those who are evil would ascend to "fourth density negative" and those who are "lukewarm" would be migrated to a planet which is a duplicate of Earth and would remain in "third density" for another cycle of <mumble> thousand lifetimes, while Earth itself would "take some time off from supporting life in order to recover from the damage done to her".

It is also understood in this mythology that "fourth density positive" and "fourth density negative" exist side by side but do not intersect. In Christian mythology, this would then equate to "fourth density positive" being "the Kingdom of Heaven", "fourth density negative" being "Hell" and "third density" being Purgatory. "Lucifer" (i.e. the Illuminati bloodlines) would then of course ascend to "fourth density negative" in order to repay their karmic debt because of all the evil they are committing, and after another <mumble> thousand lifetimes, they would then be redeemed and be able to return to "sixth density". "Fourth density negative" is then essentially considered the end-of-the-line in terms of ascension because evil cannot exist beyond "fourth density".

Mind you, none of this is actually real, or at least, whereas the names and their activities are concerned -- there are different densities but this is quite a different thing from how it's usually interpreted in new age culture. But the aforementioned story is all just the mythology of Luciferianism, and there is more too, which ties in a spiritual interpretation of the Egyptian mythology surrounding Isis, Osiris and Horus, which is the Luciferian interpretation of the Holy Trinity.

As I wrote higher up already, it was the King James translation of the Bible and the Anglo-Saxon influence in the world which created the myth of Lucifer, who is then depicted as having been the first and highest of all angels, who wanted to put his throne before that of God and was subsequently cast down from Heaven, and is then (much) later on equated with the role of the Devil. However, in the Old Testament, there are references to "the satan", but that is neither a proper name, nor an indication of an evil being. In the Book of Job, "the satan" is merely a celestial being -- presumably an angel -- who acts as a kind of prosecutor, exposing the flaws of mankind before God by testing Job, and he does it with God's full consent and approval. The word "satan" is a mixture of the Hebrew word "haschatan" and its Arabic equivalent "shaítan", which means "the opponent, the adversary".

In Islam -- which borrows heavily from Judaism and Christianity -- "the satan" (or "shaítan"/"sheitan") is a moniker for the Devil, but he is not a fallen angel. Instead, in Islam, the Devil is a Jinni called Iblis, who, when Allah created Adam, was told by Allah to bow before Adam, but who refused to do so because he found humans inferior to Jinn and would not bow before a creature lesser than himself.

The bottom line is that all religions here on Earth are merely fabrications, assembled from many of the early myths and legends of primitive man, and created so as to lure humanity into giving up not only its sovereignty and Free Will in favor of a dogmatic set of rules from an unseen deity, but also the luring of humanity into the abandoning of its own sense of ethics and self-assessment in favor of these dogmatic rules, with as a bonus rule that the deity must be faithfully worshipped and prayed unto, which as such funnels spiritual energy to the non-terrestrial parasites who have perpetrated these religions through their terrestrial cronies, with an eternal damnation as punishment and retaliation from the pertinent deity towards "infidels".

Let's not forget that, while the world is shocked by the fanatic application of the death penalty for apostasy in Saudi-Arabia and certain other Islamic nations or cultures, Christianity did the exact same thing -- with even more gruesome methods of torturing and execution -- during the middle ages. For approximately 800 years, the entire western world and part of the middle east were ruled by the Roman Catholic Church, and they were the makers of the laws, with kings and queens as their representatives. Apostasy was a capital crime in those days, and people saw the Devil in everything that ever went wrong, from a failed harvest over to stillbirths and any kind of illness.

Even those who claim to be atheists -- and that, too, is a religion -- grow up with the myths of religions embedded in culture, so even at the subconscious level, those influences are there. But no, there is no such being as Lucifer. There are evil beings, and some of those will be physical and tangible to us -- they could very well be other human beings -- while others are from a different reality which may or may not intersect with the physical reality as we know it here on Earth.

enlightened star
20th March 2015, 02:36
Teaching children to come from Love and truth will take them a long way in getting them ready. Teaching them to hold a Vision of a planet of people wanting to be in service to others AND in flow with the Divine Plan is a good focus, no matter what is happening around them.

Longbow
20th March 2015, 03:08
GoodET,
Thank you so much for coming forth with all this great info! I've been following DW for a while now and always look forward to his updates from you. Many people criticize DW, but I have only sensed honesty and care for his fellow man from him. I can see why you've trusted him. He works very hard and someday, once people are awakened, they will realize just what his contributions were during these revolutionary times.

Anxiously awaiting the interview with DW!

Peace and love!

Longbow
20th March 2015, 03:08
Enlightened Star,

Great post!

Asher
20th March 2015, 03:55
Thanks to G for the updates and info as I know you stated in a prior post you were asked to do this stuff but that you wouldn't have volunteered for it. I appreciate it and personally don't find your info difficult to believe at all as it aligns with a lot of the people I follow such as Cobra etc and because I've read and resonate with this type of material since the early 90's.

While its easy to imagine all the obstacles to achieving the great changes you speak about, the irony is, if we think about the basic things we all desire: peace, freedom, abundance of food/water/pollution-free environment etc, these are things that literally 99% of the people of the world TODAY desire too, despite their "religious" differences etc. The truth is simple: NO ONE wants to die. Humans have short lifespans in general and everyone ultimately wants the same thing in the end - to LIVE - which requires only clean water, food, shelter and the freedom to not have others impose on our free will. And the best part of all is that in TODAY'S world, with modern technology, there finally now is true and real ABUNDANCE among us - the only issue left is the unequal hording, control and distribution of that abundance.

It's easy to be discouraged when we think about the process of removing the vast power structures that are actively doing everything they can to create that inequality and separation as they seem to control everything and yield such great power and technology and support from dark ETs etc yet when we realize its only 1% controlling and preventing the other 99% of the people from having what they want and deserve, it doesn't seem that difficult. And more importantly, it appears we're now FINALLY getting the support we need to create this change. When I think about the "Event" plan, it’s truly only the BEGINNING as once the current power structure is removed, then our real work begins. The world isn't going to be transformed overnight where we wake up and everything looks different in a garden of eden - it will LOOK the same but it won’t BE the same as we'll finally have true opportunity to make the changes we desire so we can CREATE that garden of eden ourselves, together.

Of course before we can do anything that sticks, the real problems/issues need to be exposed to the masses first. If we gave Free Energy devices to the whole world today and gave every person $100k in their bank accounts, what would happen?? Would the world change for the better?? Sadly, NO as with the current power structure in place, this would ultimately do nothing but provide a temporary bounce in the lives of the masses until their $100k was eventually sucked right back into the hands of their masters/bankers/big pharma/corporations etc and the Energy devices would be used to power the next wave of consumer gadgetry and gimmicks that would be sold to the zombie sheeple.

What's needed first and what I feel is CRUCIAL to the success of the implementation of the structural changes G's people talk about, is full disclosure. Until people learn how corrupt their leaders are, until people learn how incredibly manipulated they've been and until they see with their own eyes all of the huge truths that have been purposely hidden from them, NOTHING will change. BUT once they see how the game truly operates, THEN they can learn from it and use blessings like Free Energy and wealth to do things differently so it’s not just supporting the same old repressive system. An "average" person given $100k AFTER truth disclosure would use that money much more wisely in my opinion. Instead of just buying a fancy car, they might instead choose to build a community organic garden etc.

That’s why the very first step of the so-called "Event" plan is the public arrests of the various Cabal leaders along with replacing the highly controlled mass media censors so the news of these arrests and the subsequent disclosures are properly released. People need to know the truth of the old system before they would ever choose to build a new system differently and with transparency. And when this happens, it will be a massive shock to most BUT I also happen to think it also will be less disruptive than you'd imagine. People in general are more willing to believe the truth today than ever before as I believe strongly in the phrase “truth resonates.”

People in general know that politicians and bankers are corrupt. They just feel powerless to do anything about it. And most of all, people's egos all want to be "right" so when the truth is finally disclosed, I anticipate most of the people who were on the other side of the fence will quickly adopt the new realities just to tell themselves "I knew it all along" :) As for the religious divide, the hardcore followers will have the toughest time but soon the oldest generations will pass on, leaving more of the younger, open-minded generations to populate mainstream thought. And the disclosure of truth isn't necessarily IN-validating religious beliefs - its showing that there really IS more to life that what meets the eye but that the message was simply distorted to manipulate and control - yet the ultimate bottom-line positive messages of ALL religions are indeed still valid.

So I for one welcome the process of changes and actually HOPE it contains Disruption as the Disruption aspect is necessary as I believe simply "giving" us free energy, wealth and the like without true disclosure will do nothing positive in the long-run. What WILL help is disclosing the truth about how distorted, manipulated and controlled our reality for the past few thousand years has been. Only then will people actually LEARN and thus be compelled to create a new reality that benefits ALL of us and not just a few. It's surely convenient to want these Sphere beings to do it all for us but then where is the lesson? What's more valuable, a toy given to you for your birthday or one you worked mowing lawns for months to save up and buy? A house that was gifted to you by your lottery-winning cousin or a house you built with your own bare hands?

Ultimately I simply feel that we should be grateful that we're apparently being supported in our desires to create change as I've prayed for such support for a very long time and it's apparently finally happening. Without this support, I’m afraid the power structures in place were just too sophisticated for us to break free on our own. Therefore, if G’s info is accurate, we should be grateful for the OPPORTUNITY and be prepared to take advantage of it when the time arises.

kauilapele
20th March 2015, 08:32
The MP3 they were connecting to has been removed.

monk
20th March 2015, 08:38
Hey Kauila, what's a Birkland Current? Lol

TelosianEmbrace
20th March 2015, 09:21
The MP3 they were connecting to has been removed.

...and for anyone who doesn't know who Kauilapele is, I would heartily suggest you go and view his blog at www.kauilapele.wordpress.com. Kauila has been a tireless worker for the light for many years. He lives in Hawaii, plays a slack key guitar and sings Hawaiian music. But most importantly of all, he loves his Kona coffee!!!! He puts all of his heart and awareness into his blog, and it is a constant source of inspiration for many.

Welcome to TOT, Spirit of Light!

enlightened star
20th March 2015, 14:22
Ultimately I simply feel that we should be grateful that we're apparently being supported in our desires to create change as I've prayed for such support for a very long time and it's apparently finally happening. Without this support, I’m afraid the power structures in place were just too sophisticated for us to break free on our own. Therefore, if G’s info is accurate, we should be grateful for the OPPORTUNITY and be prepared to take advantage of it when the time arises.
Well said Asher,
This is a start, and we also need to know who we truly are and why we are here.
God Bless you GoodETxSG!

Longbow
20th March 2015, 15:04
I second Telosian's statement about Kauilapele's blog! I found this site via his blog and have been following it for a long time. I feel it is the best light worker blog out there!

Peace and Love!

GoodETxSG
20th March 2015, 20:10
Wow...

It appears that there are a lot of new members and I am getting emails of people saying they are "Heading over to join TOT". That is wonderful. You will find this quite a different atmosphere IMHO than other Forums.

I do appreciate all of the questions and it looks like I will have quite a few to address once I am done videoing and working on the next big release of info that we are working on currently.

Please be patient, I will address you questions. Once I have answered your questions and if I miss any please send me a PM and give me the post # and I will try to make sure I get to it.

Thank you all!

And please do use your own best judgement and discernment with this new material and ALL material from ALL sources of people online... Blind faith or hero worship in any internet figures is unwarranted and we have been given the gift of discernment and only need to exercise that gift and practice using our own judgement to get to "Our Truth"... IMHO.

TY,

"G"

Asher
20th March 2015, 20:27
Well said Asher,
This is a start, and we also need to know who we truly are and why we are here.
God Bless you GoodETxSG!

Thank you and great point - its kind of amazing that we can send probes to Mars yet the very most basic question of all is still not answered - who are we? Of course its not because that information isn't known - its that the people who DO know don't want us to know. When people ask the standard question about life in the universe of "Are we alone?" the first thing I'd say back is that in order to answer that question, first you have to know who "we" are. Therefore they're asking the wrong question - the question must be "who are WE?" And I truly tip my hat to the ingenious manipulators who have allowed society to flourish in so many ways and directions while simultaneously hiding the most basic and yet OBVIOUS of truths as that's quite an accomplishment.

People are finally coming around to the idea that we are a combination of ape and an "alien" yet the reality as I understand it is that we Earth humans are all mutts - each one of us a combo of 10-20 alien races. Our sciences now prove the lights we see at night in the sky are not LED bulbs placed there for beauty but are actual stars with planets rotating around them, some several TRILLION of them. By math alone, this tells me the universe is literally TEEMING with life yet somehow they've convinced us that we're some random anomaly - the only 'intelligent life' in the whole universe - as if we've already explored the whole thing and come to this conclusion out of logic and experience - LOL!

Its truly amazing how our leaders have convinced us to believe so many huge lies - I feel the biggest lies of all are:
1. WE are just our physical bodies
2. Earth is the one planet in the universe of intelligent beings/we are alone
3. The universe itself (i.e. stars, planets, rocks etc) is dead and only humans/animals are alive

The truth as I see it is quite obvious - we are more than our physical bodies, the universe is teeming with life by design, the human form is quite common among the cosmos and the universe itself is alive as is virtually everything around you - its how narrowly we define "life" that limits us. But by the controllers enormous and concerted effort to keep this info under wraps, you can see just how effective it would be and has been to control us. The issue now is that science is revealing TOO MUCH and therefore the controllers are at a crossroads as the same old explanations are no longer holding water. Therefore they need to invent new ways to manipulate us and I just don't think they're going to be successful as after all, truth resonates.

Whenever I doubt my convictions (as everyone on this board knows its sometimes tough to keep belief of something when everyone around you believes the opposite), I simply think about what I call the "Simple Model" vs the "Complex Model" paradigm. I would believe all of their lies IF life was proven to be simple, i.e. IF:
a. IF the stars in the sky were merely lights
b. IF the Earth was the 'center of the universe' and the sun revolved around it
c. IF under magnification, there were no atoms/molecules/building blocks and all objects were simply what they appeared to be

IF everything were as simple as that, then I could believe the Big Lie but unfortunately the reality proven by telescopes, physics and now quantum physics proves beyond any shadow of a doubt to ANY independently-thinking person alive today that life is so much more! It will be incredibly interesting to see what happens when the truth is revealed and we finally realize who we truly are!

Longbow
20th March 2015, 21:17
Asher,
Great post!

I would add one more lie to that list.

4. Religion

I believe that a lot of the people are asleep, but the religious sector is in the deepest sleep and will be the hardest hit when they realize it was all just to control the masses.

enlightened star
20th March 2015, 23:25
IF everything were as simple as that, then I could believe the Big Lie but unfortunately the reality proven by telescopes, physics and now quantum physics proves beyond any shadow of a doubt to ANY independently-thinking person alive today that life is so much more! It will be incredibly interesting to see what happens when the truth is revealed and we finally realize who we truly are!
Thank you Asher,
Many good points here. BRAVO!

Now to understand we are so much more than these bodies and DNA. Many have brought "memories" of lives on those other planets and dealing with the negatives. Life will be so simple and beautiful here soon, as we learn (relearn) the wonder of creating it so. Truly great to share with all of you on this forum. Bless you all.

GoodETxSG, look forward to your updates!

kauilapele
21st March 2015, 02:14
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kauilapele
21st March 2015, 02:23
What is causing confusion is that there is heavy evidence that there was direct involvement by what some call the "CABAL" in causing the 3-11 Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster... Putin is a part of the Alliance... This latest statement by Fulford is raising a LOT of eyebrows... Why the flip flop on this info? An explanation is in order IMHO...
Probably bad sushi...

kauilapele
21st March 2015, 03:17
What is causing confusion is that there is heavy evidence that there was direct involvement by what some call the "CABAL" in causing the 3-11 Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster... Putin is a part of the Alliance... This latest statement by Fulford is raising a LOT of eyebrows... Why the flip flop on this info? An explanation is in order IMHO...


Hey Kauila, what's a Birkland Current? Lol

I know only of the "Kirkland current", which is the energy I get driving to and from Costco...!

kauilapele
21st March 2015, 03:20
What is causing confusion is that there is heavy evidence that there was direct involvement by what some call the "CABAL" in causing the 3-11 Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster... Putin is a part of the Alliance... This latest statement by Fulford is raising a LOT of eyebrows... Why the flip flop on this info? An explanation is in order IMHO...


...and for anyone who doesn't know who Kauilapele is, I would heartily suggest you go and view his blog at www.kauilapele.wordpress.com. Kauila has been a tireless worker for the light for many years. He lives in Hawaii, plays a slack key guitar and sings Hawaiian music. But most importantly of all, he loves his Kona coffee!!!! He puts all of his heart and awareness into his blog, and it is a constant source of inspiration for many.

Welcome to TOT, Spirit of Light!

Aloha and Mahalo, TelosianEmbrace, for your kind words.

kauilapele
21st March 2015, 03:25
What is causing confusion is that there is heavy evidence that there was direct involvement by what some call the "CABAL" in causing the 3-11 Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster... Putin is a part of the Alliance... This latest statement by Fulford is raising a LOT of eyebrows... Why the flip flop on this info? An explanation is in order IMHO...


I second Telosian's statement about Kauilapele's blog! I found this site via his blog and have been following it for a long time. I feel it is the best light worker blog out there!

Peace and Love!

Mahalo for your kind words, Longbow. There are many "fine" LW sites out there. Each may find their own "best". Aloha... Kp

[and apologies for the multiple replies in a row... in future I'll private mail some of these...]

Flower of Life
21st March 2015, 05:15
Thanks Good ET, this thread is being posted across multiple alternative news blogs. I have read this entire thread and appreciate what you are doing. I look forward to your upcoming work with DW.



Hey Kauila, what's a Birkland Current? Lol

Not sure if you're serious about your question but Drunvalo explains them here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf72l079GAQ&spfreload=10

Joan Wheaton
22nd March 2015, 00:43
...it's my orb! See video ~

This same orb, appearing in different colors at different times as shown in this post, has been appearing on my camera every day for months ~


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFKpD6zQ6Y8&feature=youtu.be

Swami
22nd March 2015, 01:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeWsF9tvFoE

diZZy
22nd March 2015, 01:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CxzZjD_Bo0&feature=youtu.be

Outlander
22nd March 2015, 08:30
Quite interesting

Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2702754/pg1

lindigab
22nd March 2015, 10:00
I second Telosian's statement about Kauilapele's blog! I found this site via his blog and have been following it for a long time. I feel it is the best light worker blog out there!

Peace and Love!


I too second, third and probably many more by now, thanks to KP and his wonderful blog for getting me here. Material is resonating and many aspects feeling very familiar indeed as they are brought into conscious awareness for me.

Just backtracking over thread and interviews and material from previous forum to bring me up to speed to enjoy the discussion and what is to come!

Thank you soooo much GoodETxSG for your time and effort in bringing all this information to the table. It is much appreciated as well as the many thoughts, opinions and questions from all contributing.

Much love to all :love:

Ria
22nd March 2015, 13:43
Message for:
Dear Blue Avians,Triangle Beings Sphere beings,
We the decent people of earth are being poisoned, torchuered, killed, brain washed, deceived and robbed on every level, this great deception has gone on for many millennia.
We have systematically been divided ageist each other.
We have no arms.
We do our best to find out the cover ups, we are constantly sabotage, our capacity is greatly reduced due to poisons through out everything we use known and unknown.
All communications are being sabotaged with the view to shutting us down further. All legal systems are false, we have no address there, in fact all those of good merit are in prison or killed for standing up, no matter how many protest, sign partitions, it is covered up.
This has been abundantly clear with the paedophiles satanic groups running the governments and our poor children being taken.

And most people with in the range of normal desperately want this to change, even if not armed with the true facts about what is really going on.

You say we need to do more?

My question is this, are you asking more of the conscious aware people to keep running into brick walls to be killed, incarcerated to no avail........just to reduce the numbers.???

I have my concerns for Goodetxsg and his family being used, playing on his own desires for a better future and ours for hopping you really do want to help us.

I say to you show us what you can do.

Get the truth out, through the media and the networks.(as these are controlled by the negatives)
Take away all the worst offenders down to the visible ones in our government and legal system and those hiding in the arm forces and anywhere els. Have them incarcerated, till all truth comes out with all their rights stripped.

Help and protect those where injustice has been levied.

Prove to us you mean business.

I hope you understand, I do not mean any disrespect with regard to this information.

Elbie
22nd March 2015, 14:21
they may mean business, but chances are, i am afraid, some other business.

in the meantime, it's dogma - as per usual. if you ask too many question, specially the ones conisdered negative by their ambassadors, they, tjhe blue avians&alliance may withold their would be assistance altogether.

mods, do delete this entry if you feel you must. i understand i am derailing this thread from its' positive flow. i am not fussed.

sorry ria and everyone.

Longbow
22nd March 2015, 14:44
Good morning Ria,

I feel your deep frustration, I truly do!

Unfortunately I don't think their plan is going to be altered. Like many who have read GoodET's posts, I was upset and afraid that they are going allow events to play out down here and not just save us. This has taken a while to sink in especially since I have young children whom I dearly want to shield from any and all trauma. I'm a firefighter as well and I already see how much society is suffering everyday with pharmaceutical and food supply poisoning. The last thing I want to see is even more suffering.
It has taken some deep thought and meditation, but I have come to see the wisdom in their plan. If they were to just save us, it would only cause them to be elevated to godlike status in our history and we would never realize our true power as a species. Look at how easily people have given up their free will to religions over the centuries. And most of these were made up by smooth and clever talking humans. People need to be shown once and for all that we are powerful sovereign beings who need no one to worship other than Prime Creator. The people of this planet need to realize their power and it will never happen if we are "saved". I try to awaken people every day and most look at me like I have lobsters coming out of my ears. Just trying to get people to comprehend that our government did 9/11 is monumental. So much mind control is prevalent that people still think the government is acting with their best interest. I don't even mention secret space programs or ET's any more because people started asking if I was ok and maybe needed help. As long as their IPhone keeps working and they have their beer and football, they see no reason to change. Americans have been so dumbed down and programmed that the only way they will be awakened is by a major collapse of the systems and the resulting shock to their psyche. Only then will they be able to truly see our leaders for what they are. Only then can we be our own saviors and build our great future.

Sad as it is, I do see the wisdom in their plan. I just don't want my children to have to go through it.

Longbow

Ria
22nd March 2015, 16:06
Dear Longbow
Iv thought along the same lines as your self, now I'm questoning further that some intervention is required and we need to work together on solutions, and it dose not help to insert a "the God gene" into our DNA then later complain about it, just get rid of it, if that's the root of the problem.

People have repeatedly fort for change look at the Palestines and every other war, it is a nonsense.
We have had our strings pulled for far to long from all manner of negative beings in this and other dimensions.
Where is the level playing field ?
Can you or I stand up to cobalt nuclear bombs?
The service to self people have infected minds, how do you think we can change that? they won't be spending time having a chit-chat with us on how tobe kinder.( they will only stop when there is no advantage in continuing).

Longbow, I'm not expecting you to answer these question just throwing it out there.
I too want there tobe a future for your children.

Majik
22nd March 2015, 16:07
Longbow, be heartened. In spite of all that we know is or has transpired on our beloved planet, the children that are around today “came in” more aware & awake than we did. If you really listen to what they are saying, you will hear things that you never expected. They, like us, volunteered to come & be here at this time (we were chosen as well) to raise the love & light quotient. They, like us, are old souls here to help/assist as well as give us all hope.

Not too long ago, while skyping with my brother, I met my niece’s daughter for the first time. I told her I had met her when she was six months old. Her reply was “oh you met me before I was a real person.” (I think she is 11 now – going on 50 :D) Whew!

Yes, we don’t want them to experience what we have, we want to protect them. However, I am so willing to listen to & hear what they have to share. As the saying goes, “. . . out of the mouths of babes.”

Combine that with, like you said, remembering who we are & Our own power. We have nothing to lose & everything to gain. We are who we have been waiting for. (But you already knew that!)

Majik
22nd March 2015, 16:30
Ria,

We do have help. Our “off planet” family is helping with the cleanup of all this nuclear stuff we have around the planet – situations like Fukashima. They have neutralized nuclear weapons, caused guns, tanks, etc. not to function & many other things they don’t share with us.

Like others have shared, they won’t interfere with our free will. However, they have more leeway if we ask and give our permission to assist. (Yes a lot of us have done just that – I for one all the time. They are probably saying “Here she goes again :D) I constantly am saying to them how can we help ourselves until all forms of mind control/manipulation are removed so people can see/know what is going on & help do something about it along with the rest of us.

Yes, it is ugly “out there” but we are watching the last gasps of those that think of us as useless eaters. I truly have faith & trust that there is more going on behind the scenes than we really/truly know.

monk
22nd March 2015, 16:36
When a set of neglectful parents stumble across their abandoned children in the jungle who are perhaps now feral to some degree, lol, do they intervene or do they watch to see if the snakes get a meal?

I've noticed a LOT of "ET"'s, in their communications through their spokespeople, use metaphors in their analogies of Earth and Humans, and they rarely ever place us above the status of Children. Not saying we're not or anything but the implications for them don't reflect positively I feel.

Longbow
22nd March 2015, 17:21
Majik,
Great posts and I fully agree with everything you said. This next generation is so full of love and pureness. They are so far ahead!

Ria,
I agree, but I think they are intervening on a global scale. They have aligned with one of the SSP's as well as the alliance and I'm sure they are doing a lot of support behind the scenes that we can't see. Raising the conscious awareness of the masses is a huge undertaking and needs to be done to avoid all the trauma and panic associated with the truth about our history as well as the ET issue.

People just don't realize that we have the power to stop this madness today if the consciousness of the masses was up to a certain point of awareness. Just stop and think that if all of the secret service personnel stopped protecting the government officials and elites. If they had to walk amongst us unprotected, I think their actions would be much different. The same goes for the military and secret agencies. If they all decided through a higher consciousness to stop all the wars and secrecy, this would be a much different world instantly. Same for the media outlets. They don't have to be censored or lie to us, people make the choice everyday. People have the power, they just don't know it.

That is how the masses have been enslaved for so long. People don't believe that they have the power! Feeling it is hopeless without some outside help is just what they want. People are afraid and so we accept our position. Fear of death is one of the big ones preventing this, but there is really nothing to fear. If I should die in the oncoming storm towards freedom of this planet, then so be it. I will try and help as many people as I can and protect my family as best I can, but I'm tired of the slavery and this unsustainable path towards the destruction of this planet. Every person in the military and government needs to take a hard look at themselves and take responsibility for their part in this situation we're in. If no one participated in the system, it would fail in one day and we could move forward and begin building a new future for this planet.

This may seem overly simplified, but it is an overwhelming and absolute truth.

Longbow