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mojo
8th March 2015, 01:43
There has been some talk about these beings lately and I dont wish the discussion to be dropped. Before the coast to coast show with Wilcock describing the blue avians, there was Bonnie Meyer. But surprisingly Wilcock does not mention Bonnie Meyer although he claims to have an extensive knowledge base. The thread is not an attack but wish to get more understanding and possibly connect the dots. Does the fact that Wilcock and his source speak about Blue Avians support Bonnie Meyer's claim?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQVjKlEHbqo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTFYf6CxtPE

mojo
8th March 2015, 01:47
Some visuals


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwAl3vm8GT0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe7U9aaXgAQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCXZPhqR_ZA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNmawNM_Ws

Ria
8th March 2015, 11:36
Quit a few years back I read a book which spoke of blue bird type beings that were very busy working on the grid system as they new about the earth changes / cataclysm to come and we're doing what they could to leave coded information on the land masses for future people. These beings spoke of Antarctica as being warm place with many significant places there with pyramids. This was many years before the information that has come out in the last decade.
The Book is in a packing box somewhere, sorry can't give much more detail than that for now.

Regarding Wilcox not knowing about them, I do not know if it's possible to cover everything there is out there.
My impression is that the military are trained to disregard the non military as potential inaccurate, when it comes to natural abilities and as we know, much discrediting has gone on over multiple decades, centuries.
I am now glad that there have been those willing to break with protocol and speak out.
I remember how the UFO nuts were considered for as long as I can remember, now it's not so odd after all.

Spiral of Light
8th March 2015, 12:58
Regarding Wilcox not knowing about them, I do not know if it's possible to cover everything there is out there.
My impression is that the military are trained to disregard the non military as potential inaccurate, when it comes to natural abilities and as we know, much discrediting has gone on over multiple decades, centuries.
I am now glad that there have been those willing to break with protocol and speak out.
I remember how the UFO nuts were considered for as long as I can remember, now it's not so odd after all.

I've been thinking about the discrediting aspect of this, too, Ria.

The fact that there are brave hearts willing to speak out deserves to be seriously acknowledged. They themselves have stated that they know in advance that they will be ridiculed. Those who have come forward over the years and those who are speaking out now have put their own personal pride and safety aside in order to share what they consider to be vital information.

Coming forward and announcing that Blue Bird type Avian beings are standing by to support humanity takes a LOT of courage and determination to do the right thing. Anyone who makes the decision to speak out about these things absolutely knows that there is going to be ridicule and discrediting. It is to be expected.

Most people in my circle of influence would have a real problem accepting this information. There will have to be huge ground-breaking revelations before they would even begin to listen to me speak about it with any kind of acceptance on their part. So, there is not only the expectation of ridicule, but also the fear that not many will hear it with open minds and hearts at this present time.

Thank you, Mojo, for providing these links to Bonnie Meyer's presentations. I haven't heard all of them yet, but she gives a good description of a Blue Avian being in the first audio.

All of this background provides even more substance to new information that we are being given, and it is appreciated.

GoodETxSG
8th March 2015, 13:26
After you brought her to our attention the first time we both looked into her and her group/information... (Had never heard of her or her stories)...

It was obviously not the same beings (Looks nothing like them other than color) or group we are dealing with and the other beings that were described on this vessel were of a distasteful nature and beings the "Blue Avians" (And their 6th - 9th D Allies) refuse contact with.

The description of "Eric's" ship having a toilet and other 3/4 D amenities along with the other info did not add up... As well as ALL of the information later being said to have been "channeled". There was no reason to bring her up or two other people who have talked about some other types of Avian Beings (There are others out there that are interesting yet not so friendly beings in some cases that the SSP has cadavers of in their collection...).

This is worth bringing up though and worth a watch... it is interesting. Though unrelated.

Ria
8th March 2015, 13:58
If my memory serves me the Avians I refere to have blue feet with claws nothing like Bonnie Ms description or like the ones Goodetxsg is reporting on.
This still leaves the door open to being a different species. I think Goodetxsg also mentioned diffrent avian species.

Now regarding food and tolet facilities this is only required for the lower frequencys beings like ourselves I dont know if it stops from 4th dimension on up, I'd have to check my notes. Beings that straddle a number of dimension how would that work?:hmm: enough to think about saving the world, will poop later.

mojo
8th March 2015, 18:17
Not sure...but I think you have discounted her to soon, here's why:

1. How many big intelligent blue birds, 7 feet tall out there in the universe?
2. The mention of ships that are hundreds of miles large.
3. There were over 16 species on the craft and they were organic lifeforms hence bathroom facilities.
4. Your blue avians occupied a physical realm as well as being interdimensional, why would her collective group be different? Especially hiding big craft in our atmosphere...

I'm not saying either way but was surprised in light of responses above...but thanks GoodET for taking the time to respond and checking it out.

GoodETxSG
8th March 2015, 18:36
If my memory serves me the Avians I refere to have blue feet with claws nothing like Bonnie Ms description or like the ones Goodetxsg is reporting on.
This still leaves the door open to being a different species. I think Goodetxsg also mentioned diffrent avian species.

Now regarding food and tolet facilities this is only required for the lower frequencys beings like ourselves I dont know if it stops from 4th dimension on up, I'd have to check my notes. Beings that straddle a number of dimension how would that work?:hmm: enough to think about saving the world, will poop later.

Yes, (TY RIA/MOJO)
There are not a whole lot of other types of "Avians" but enough that there is a "Collection" of them in the "Cadaver Libraries"... Some of various colors.

The description and comic strip like drawing of this Avian "Eric" was nothing like these other beings. Having "Claws etc..." it goes on from there...

http://www.jonhyattpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Eric.jpg

Being that she channeled her information she may have pulled some data from the universal mind that was similar, was targeted by the "Mind of God" technology as many are who "Channel Information" or actually made contact with some other type of being. There were just too many data points that felt off. Like I said, its a group of interesting stories and worth the time to watch...

As for "Hiding big craft in our atmosphere", this is not something that is being done with these Spheres... There are quite a lot of other large craft that are cloaked in various ways in and round us in our atmosphere all the time... Earth Made and from other civilizations.

There are no organic life forms in their Sphere Alliance other than the new SSP Group but they are not walking around inside these energetically phase changing Spheres eating or meeting at tables or using the toilet...

Why would their/Bonnies group be different? It is channeled information and she may have melded various experiences into one? Speculating... but some of these beings we know from other programs and they are not ones that the Avians or Sphere Alliance have allowed to make contact with them or say they are "Vibrationally Compatible" with...

Like I said we looked at the info thoroughly and also some info from some other sources out there talking about similar things... It was not a match.
TY,
"G"

http://www.thelightside.org/EARSite/bonniefront.jpg

GoodETxSG
8th March 2015, 19:09
Honestly,

When this was first mentioned to me by Mojo I was actually hopeful. I was told that "They" (Avians) are in contact with others down here as well as are the "Blue/Indigo/Violet Orb Beings".

I have been emailed by quite a few people saying they have been contacted.

The "Blue Avians" stated that they have given us all a "Name" to know each other by "Repeating".

There are supposed to be tens of thousands of people already contacted by the 'Orbs" alone, and the contacts are said to be picking up in frequency in the near future if they haven't already.

I don't think "They" want to put their message or information in the hands of one or two corruptible humans but spread the information around widely... (Not put all of their "Eggs in one basket" so to speak). Yes, pun intended... :)

I am more than ready for some "Others" to be verified and come forward... I am happy to spread this heavy ridicule I am receiving around.

I would actually prefer someone else be brought forward to take part in these meetings and conferences coming up.

I am NO public speaker nor do I feel cut out to stand between various groups that do not get along and bring them information that they are not going to want to hear!

"G".

Lillith
8th March 2015, 20:14
Although I have the pic of what appears to be a large, (compared to a firefly), orb, I am not consciously aware of communication from it. I would welcome such communication, and I guess I would then be subject to the same reactions. I was feeling skeptical of even discussing the pic, but it was recent and I thought if not here, where would I discuss it? I only have one friend that I talk with in person about these things. Stigma is oppressive. I might have to change.

Elbie
8th March 2015, 20:19
why are we associating orbs/spheres with avian/blue avians?

unless it is assumed orbs/spheres are the vehicles they are traveling in.

GoodETxSG
8th March 2015, 20:26
Although I have the pic of what appears to be a large, (compared to a firefly), orb, I am not consciously aware of communication from it. I would welcome such communication, and I guess I would then be subject to the same reactions. I was feeling skeptical of even discussing the pic, but it was recent and I thought if not here, where would I discuss it? I only have one friend that I talk with in person about these things. Stigma is oppressive. I might have to change.

"They" communicated to us that most of the communications or "Downloads of Information" given to those they "Appeared to" were done on a Higher Self or Subconscious Level and that at a given point these people will recall the information or contacts...

To be honest I am not sure what that means... But these were people of an already higher vibration and in some cases were "Soul Family" of some of these "Sphere Allied Beings".

There are a lot of unknowns (For me anyway)... I think there are others out there that have some more info that are waiting and watching the reactions of others and deciding whether to come forward... Others will have this data download revealed to them and then come forward.

I would love to have a PM from you with the entire description of your experience if you are willing. We are gathering some of those experiences and will NOT share any of them with anyone without first contacting you to ask permission in the future when we have received contact of and documented a large number of these experiences...

Thank you for sharing what you have, it takes guts and opens you up to ridicule. I respect your decision to PM me the details or not, it is your experience to share or cherish alone.

:)

"G"

Ria
8th March 2015, 20:27
Not sure...but I think you have discounted her to soon, here's why:

I haven't discounted anything Mojo I keep an open mind, Bonnie seems nice enough and her experience seems to of started way back before mind influencing was as effective and there are her day time sightings with witnesses. This dose not mean there has not been some tampering to throw people off, it's not uncommon for the the good guys to turn up, followed by the bad guys (less reports of this lately).

Regarding the military I believe they know a vast amount at the same time very few know about it all, also there will be information that the millatry(including the SSP) did not get their hands on.
If I was watching the antics of the millatry, the archons and the carbal and wanted to make contact for what ever reason I would find a way round the obsticals if I could.
You must admit Bonnie's sweet big bird with it's duck bill might seem a little qwackers, at the same time dose not discount it's potential validity albeit a childlike rendition.

The beings Goodetxsg refers to are not the same from what he has seen or from the store of archived materiel.......................................... ...............so far.:belief: :whstl:

mojo
8th March 2015, 20:33
I think orbs and or spheres can mean a few things. In Oregon there were a couple of larger spheres that could have easily contained a being but there were also smaller orbs that changed size, color and spatial arrangement. Other associates, one living in PA, believes the spheres are travel containers. It sounds like Wilcock is acknowledging even larger ones. But I don't think one can attribute the diversity of spheres as belonging to one group.

Hi Ria,
I know you haven't I was referring to GoodET reply.

Ria
8th March 2015, 20:45
I think orbs and or spheres can mean a few things. In Oregon there were a couple of larger spheres that could have easily contained a being but there were also smaller orbs that changed size, color and spatial arrangement. Other associates, one living in PA, believes the spheres are travel containers. It sounds like Wilcock is acknowledging even larger ones. But I don't think one can attribute the diversity of spheres as belonging to one group.
I would concur.
There is fascinating information in 'The Ringing Cedars' about an orb that is aligned with Anastasia and its phenomenal powers.

GoodETxSG
8th March 2015, 20:46
why are we associating orbs/spheres with avian/blue avians?

unless it is assumed orbs/spheres are the vehicles they are traveling in.

Sort of, You are on the right track... (I know this is a lot for and some difficult concepts for our 3D minds to wrap around in some cases, not all I have found),

There are 5 beings, The "Orb Beings" that have been most associated with the "Spheres" and their "4 Allies". So far the "Blue Avians" have made themselves known.

In an upcoming "Conference" there is going to be "Another" of the 4 Allied Beings making their first appearance.

This is going to be a close cluster of 2 meetings of which one is going to be a "Conference" on the LOC while the other is going to be with "Contacted individuals" on an "Energetically Modified"/"Field Phased" Sphere.

These beings are all higher Density beings that do not need a "Vessel" to travel or reside in.

They manipulate the vibrational state of Matter and Energy "Consciously" or by thinking it so. This is also the way they "Travel".

The existence or need for these "Spheres" are an unknown at this point as they too seem to be energetic and phase in and out of densities and our reality according to the "Will" of the other higher dimensional beings associated with them.

We do not have all of the answers and do not promise that they will be forthcoming to us directly. We have no way of knowing...

There is a lot of excitement about this next round of meetings of which I am told to be prepared to be "Picked Up" for at the normal 3AM time "Central Standard Time" on Monday Night (Or actually early Tuesday Morning 3AM)...

Elbie
8th March 2015, 21:40
Sort of, You are on the right track... (I know this is a lot for and some difficult concepts for our 3D minds to wrap around in some cases, not all I have found),

There are 5 beings, The "Orb Beings" that have been most associated with the "Spheres" and their "4 Allies". So far the "Blue Avians" have made themselves known.

In an upcoming "Conference" there is going to be "Another" of the 4 Allied Beings making their first appearance.

This is going to be a close cluster of 2 meetings of which one is going to be a "Conference" on the LOC while the other is going to be with "Contacted individuals" on an "Energetically Modified"/"Field Phased" Sphere.

These beings are all higher Density beings that do not need a "Vessel" to travel or reside in.

They manipulate the vibrational state of Matter and Energy "Consciously" or by thinking it so. This is also the way they "Travel".

The existence or need for these "Spheres" are an unknown at this point as they too seem to be energetic and phase in and out of densities and our reality according to the "Will" of the other higher dimensional beings associated with them.

We do not have all of the answers and do not promise that they will be forthcoming to us directly. We have no way of knowing...

There is a lot of excitement about this next round of meetings of which I am told to be prepared to be "Picked Up" for at the normal 3AM time "Central Standard Time" on Monday Night (Or actually early Tuesday Morning 3AM)...


please report here, for the ones not attending the conference, whether there'd be any mention of small size orbs, close to size of a human head..metallic in appearence, super shiny, but not of metal..they are superbly intelligent and affectionate.

a while back i wrote you a PM about my experiencing / seeing / being touched by those. you might remember, tho i do not want to speak here of what they carried as info. i have not photographed the mark they left on my forehead, i haven't felt i needed to prove anything to anyone - i haven't planned on spreading the story.

according to not just this experience of mine, not just with super polished orbs, the disingenious ones ( either AI, or other imposters) are delivering verbal content that deserves to be discarded immediately as it's flawed and/or misleading, or designed to corrupt you. again , this, from my own definitive understanding, long time of learning.. the true ones transfer the information by pictures, emotions or both and the info deserves to be paid attention to.

i am not a channeler, never tried or wanted to channel any entities, nor have i wanted or tried to invoke any contact with other life/et. i don't even meditate. i.e if they are coming to me, means they are appearing and making themselves known to an awful lot of people .

SmokeyJoe1952
8th March 2015, 22:57
Obviously you guys know of this parallel running thread at Avalon re these 'Blue Avians'.....................interesting going back n forth

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80400-Blue-Avians

mojo
9th March 2015, 00:02
...parallel running thread at Avalon re these 'Blue Avians'.
Yeah and a member from both forums continues innuendos where GoodET can't respond over there, and its part of the reason I created this thread to provide GoodEt a chance to get his perspective...

Wolf Khan
9th March 2015, 01:39
When are you going to realise that ALL ETs are as dark as lucifer , and that none of them are good people......!!!!!!, no matter the propaganda.

lookbeyond
9th March 2015, 01:45
When are you going to realise that ALL ETs are as dark as lucifer , and that none of them are good people......!!!!!!, no matter the propaganda.

Hi Wolf Khan, i feel that just as there are "good" and "bad" intentioned people on Earth, so must it be in the greater Universe, i would like it if you could elaborate on how you are so sure?

Thankyou, lb

GoodETxSG
9th March 2015, 02:37
I think orbs and or spheres can mean a few things. In Oregon there were a couple of larger spheres that could have easily contained a being but there were also smaller orbs that changed size, color and spatial arrangement. Other associates, one living in PA, believes the spheres are travel containers. It sounds like Wilcock is acknowledging even larger ones. But I don't think one can attribute the diversity of spheres as belonging to one group.

Hi Ria,
I know you haven't I was referring to GoodET reply.

Yea, The "PA Associates" seem to have revealed in twisting many of the points of information I have presented knowingly and unapologetically...

That entire fiasco is hardly worth mentioning considering the sources involved... They are quite skewed in their illogical presentations and purposely flawed presentations of information...

That is a group that has proven more of what I had to say about them than they have proven any flawed logic in my presentations at this point...

I am not a member over THERE so I will respond over HERE...

mojo
9th March 2015, 02:42
Hi GoodET, sorry for the confusion the PA in reference above is Pennsylvania and seeingUFOsPA theory on spheres but I do agree with your meaning and happenings with the thread at Project Avalon which has been alot of craziness.

GoodETxSG
9th March 2015, 02:44
Obviously you guys know of this parallel running thread at Avalon re these 'Blue Avians'.....................interesting going back n forth

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80400-Blue-Avians

Yes, quite an interesting forum indeed... people purposely misleading information and data for their own twisted agenda's, not one bit of research before assertions of their points of view... They have only thus far proven exactly what I have stated about that Forum to this point... Everything up to this point....

"G"

mojo
9th March 2015, 02:47
Here is her latest video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccXcA0p0uTs

sinzzer
9th March 2015, 09:34
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These beings are all higher Density beings that do not need a "Vessel" to travel or reside in.



What we saw with our own eyes did not look like an metalic object, or something mechanic.
It was an orb or sphere of pure light in beautiful colors moving within each other, like it was some kind of plasma energy.
We saw this good good with our own eyes, not even 10 meters away from us.
We saw this on a crucial moment in our life.
We are a couple who are happily marrige for more then 16 years.
And when my woman was sick of grief, nothing could heal her.
Then we had a massive encounter on new year's eve 2013/2014.
And after 35 minutes of filming bright orb sphere looking objects, i got annoyd because i wanted to know what they are.
And i said that to my woman, then 30 seconds later one of them fly directly to our window and thats how we saw it.
That encounter changed everything.
My woman regaind a energy boost, and forgot about her grief and gave that a place in her heart.
And i got a new goal to understand what we saw.

After this day we had countless encounters with bright objects, we know for sure that we are connected in some way.
To many coincidence happend.
For excample a star looking object fly evertime near me or above me or above our home or near our home.
With naked eye it look like a star, can hover like a star and fly with the speed of an helicopter and dont make sound.
In the week of 7 aug, i filmed that object 15 times .
And sometimes three times in one evening.
And i saw that object from 20 meters above farmland to star altitude, flying close to the moon, well thats what it looked like, am not a range scientist so dont kill me on that.
Till today we still see that star looking object.
And here is the last time i filmed it flying near my home, because many times i see it fly and it vanished before i can film it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPp3G02SNk0

That means i look up and see it fly for 5 sec with a bright light and then its gone...
Yes gone, i made pictures of that area and i dont see anything.
Iv seen it that many times ,that for me its more like its flying by to say hi, it does the same with my woman.
She look outside and see it fly on that moment , and then a small while later it vanish.
And then it fly a couple of hundreds meters up, its not high when we see it.
Maybe one time we can say ok, it can happend.
After two times also, and maybe even after three times.
But with us, i lost count.
We saw it for sure more then hundreds times and on different hours.
Its not like, ok we might see something now.
Nope, its more like by accident we look outside, like anyone would do if you are at home.
And on those moment we see it.

And we saw those objects in different colors, or the crafts can make different colors.
its just that i saw that white object that many times, that i focused more on it.
And there for called my investigation project white star, i want to know who is flying them.
But we only see something flying around us, it never communicate with us with words or sounds.
But it sure looked like it had communicate with us with there lights, by appearing or reacting in crucial moments.
And that happend to many times that i cant call it coincidence anymore.

But the chance might be big they did communicate with us, but in our dreams.
My woman get alot of dreams, and she remember all.
I dont remember anything i dream, every morning my mind looks empty.
but i feel like i dreamed something, it looked more like a very far memory what i cant recall.
My woman can explain a dream like a movie, and she is not that person who talk nonsense.

What she explained is that she had met different kind of beings, and that we are in contact with light beings who dont need vessels.
There are more, but this is one of them.
They came from a higher dimension or something, and they teach us in our dreams.
And that we need to remember who we are and our reason that we get here.

IN some way that sounds cliche but the truth is, the close encounter from last year truly changed our lifes.
Because it trigger a search within us for the truth, and that leaded to higher knowledge of history, religion, the ufos, human history and about who or what we spiritual are.
And that changed us.
From a business man i changed into a person seeking for the truth and we stand against almost everything in life.
Before we saw UFOs me and my woman were isolated by the community, because we are a couple of different cultures living in a land what is not our mother birthland.
We had to fight racism of family ,the community and even against the gouvernment, we fighted four years for a racism case and we won because we did give up, many would had give up but not us.

So we had alot of drama in our life before we saw UFOs, and only one person stood behind us.
A true Buddist, and that was my father in law.
WHen he died, that was a huge loss for my woman and she almost broke down.
I knew the lost of her father could be the last obstacle for my woman,that could brake her or she will get very strong.
But something was needed to get that happend, i had no idea what back then.
My job was to help her recover and to take care of my two kids and i had to be sure the family wount get damaged by this.
Then on 31 december 2013 i sit alone in my bedroom and thought in meself, damn this year is the hardest year of my life and i will never forget it.
And then 2014 was not even 5 minutes old and i completly forget 2013.

So to make a long story short, something came in our lifes on a crucial moment.
And something is giving us message by daily basis in our dreams.
And something is flying around our home or near me and i film that daily, and we came to the point that we realize that we need to do more to find answers..
There for we contacted Mary Rodwell, also by coincidence btw.
Because i saw her picture on facebook when i opened my start page, she was in a line with people who i might know and i can invite as friend.
I thought coincicende dont excist, so i send her n invite and when she accepted a message.

And she wanted to know more.
Then we emailed our story and she wanted to analyze my footage, some pictures and videos.
Then i send her raw footage and pictures and then suggested to do a hypnosis session.
That was also the message the beings give to my woman in every dream.
And that we need to find a good person who can help us with hypnosis, but we never took it seriously to be honest.
Until i saw the picture of Mary in facebook.
Then i thought coincidence dont excist!

So if i look at all the information i see about UFOs and aliens, then the story of the spheres beings come in line in what we see and know.
We changed ourselfes but they triggered us with a new goal, the goal to look up and to look within ourselfs.
And the change we make is the way to change the world.

A couple of days ago i was about to go to the hotspot.
Before i left i saw my son and daughert practising zen and yoga, then i thought if they do this now then how then what would they know when they are mature?
And with parents like us how would they be?
I thought damn this is the change for the future.

And i dont know if this would be the same if i did not saw them, the chance might be big that i would be stuck up in a materilize world, searching for money.
And my kids and woman would have follow my leads.
So there for i follow each topic very well about aliens or UFOs, because am living right in it.
And i can say that, yes there is something out there and no it is not here to do miracles for us.
But what we see , is out there here to trigger us or to guide us to a higher knowledge to understand our self.
And then we can make a better life on this planet.
And this opinion is not based on what i assume, no it is from what we saw and know by dreams.
Something is guiding my woman in her dreams, and something is guiding me outside with the lights.
Who or what? we dont know but they had proven to me that i do not have to fear them.
Iv had countless moments in the middle of the night with them and nothing happend.
There actions looks more like a wake up call and i can say thats ecatly what happend, we woke up!

So i cant judge what others see or say about UFOs or abductions or any other negative things about UFos, and i dont saw any greys or reptilions or what ever.
What we saw and see is something with light energy force what is flying around us or appearing in our dreams.
I only recall one dream of a light being, i saw his head good.
It looked very real and it was the first thing i saw and remember when i woke up.
But am a realist and need to find some facts before i can believe anything but it is hard to proof if something is a dream or not.
So there for i do not talk about it much until i understand more of it, because there is many more information ofcourse.
I see it like a huge puzzle and i started to see paterns or connections to finish the puzzle, if i said more then i might be wrong because i might saw it wrong.
There for mostly if i dont understand something i put the qeustion in my own topic,what only members can see.
But the truth is a in strange way i understand more now but its difficult to find the right words to explain what i see or know or think about life and all this.
The puzzle is not finish yet and am in the middle of it.
There for all people who ridiculizes this subject have no clue whats going on or they do and debunk it.
We live in it and we dont understand it, but we are trying to understand it.
And that all because of what we saw with our own eyes, if we did not saw that.
Then everything else would have been just dreams and lights in the sky, what ever they would be.
We would not care.
But now??
Nope what we saw was not from here, it was like magic,photoshopped, unreal and it made my stomach turn around when i saw it.
Nobody can tell us it was this or that, nope we saw it and will not accept any explantion until someone put the same thing in front of me and said, it was this or that.
Not even the best lokin aircrafts come close to that, it was not even mechanic!
And it was not a hologram eather, i felt the energy of something flying over.
There for that encounter had proven to us tht we are not alone here and it was a beautiful orb sphere looking object in different colors.
And it let us look inside because our eyes did not hurt after it.
WHen it fly to us, it slow down and his light became less brighter.
That was the changing of colors i saw with my eyes, that means it adept his light spectrum to what our eyes can see.
To make sure that we could look into it and see what it is.
This could not be done with a very bright object flying in the dark, the light blockes every sight.
But not that moment, it let us see right into it.
Like a peak look into heaven and there for we knew that it was intelligent and not negative at all if they thought of that.
And now we had to figure out who our new friends are.
And all fingers points to the sphere beings what you are talking about.
The message you said, what they said to you, was giving to my woman months ago.
In different ways.
They never said they are the sphere beings or avians or something but what describe as there actions and there message comes in line in what we know and see.

Agape
9th March 2015, 11:50
Yes, quite an interesting forum indeed... people purposely misleading information and data for their own twisted agenda's, not one bit of research before assertions of their points of view... They have only thus far proven exactly what I have stated about that Forum to this point... Everything up to this point....

"G"

I won't come to argue here or there with you G'' . You have NO RIGHT, absolutely no right to call others testimonies twisted . I have big heart , for you too as an experiencer . My data is on the web at least since 2006 ( or key to them to be precise ) and I don't engage in competition.

You should dwell on your intellect and facts rather than on your dumbness . ETs are not possession of any country or military and you are not here to decide for others . It's shameful feeling to be around in this atmosphere entirely, you are shaming this community with your continuous slander of others , started by you , not by anyone else .

Your statements about who you were can hardly be checked . I trust your experiences because I am more than familiar with information you present as 'something new' .

But you are doing disservice to yourself and this community .

Dumbness and brute force won't do the job . Spend few years yourself on checking resources available with mouth shut then maybe you get idea . There had been many good people before us and after us, with similar knowledge .


If you think that truth can be monopolised by you , I'm telling you it can't .


I wish you the best , kindest day ..


I am not here asking you to convince me or prove me anything . The truth will prevail .



:swing:

monk
9th March 2015, 12:38
dark as lucifer

There are good Lucifer splits, but don't take my word for it I still count using my fingers.

Ria
9th March 2015, 13:01
Agape has Goodetxsg mention any ones testimonies? NO (regarding yours)
Has Goodetxsg mention your name? NO
Has Goodetxsg mention anything to do with you? NO
Yet you have been slagging him off. What right do you have?
and it is clear you have come here to argue.



Who has been throwing the stones ? You



Are you Quite OK?

Agape
9th March 2015, 13:35
Agape has Goodetxsg mention any ones testimonies? NO (regarding yours)
Has Goodetxsg mention your name? NO
Has Goodetxsg mention anything to do with you? NO
Yet you have been slagging him off. What right do you have?
and it is clear you have come here argue.



Who has been throwing the stones ? You



Are you Quite OK?


Ria , you're obviously on wrong side against me .

I've heard those words earlier somewhere on this forum and thought , not a problem , we all need to vent and you like many others around old-timers were groomed by years of PA community under the guidance of single individual - basically -
and what he condoned to be important .

Do you have any interest in what I know whatsoever , if so , you are free to open a thread , ask me question or read data available from me on the net .

You simply presume we are all 'guessing ' the truth here or don't you .

G'' has 'no name' officially , someone with no name calling others names does not make big difference .
Unless he's here for a reason .
Are you aware of any such a reason ? Perhaps a reason that fits in one of those 'conspiracy theories' ?


Please find the last ever post that you had respectful and not quite sarcastic question to me about anything else than 'someone else' and commenting on them .

You know the truth is that I hate arguments that's why I avoid here . Being in presence of people who call 'devils' and see devils behind every corner is simply not my life volition or choice .

Hit bad nerve obviously .


:sun:

lift the veil
9th March 2015, 14:20
G'' has 'no name' officially , someone with no name calling others names does not make big difference .

Yes "G" has no name officially however you have no problem putting his first name into a post on Avalon in the Contactee section that he can not see as he is no longer a member. What is the purpose of that?

Breeze
9th March 2015, 15:16
I won't come to argue here or there with you G'' . You have NO RIGHT, absolutely no right to call others testimonies twisted .

Dear Agape,

Speaking friend to friend please take a deep self centering breath, and go into that timeless stillness within and be sincerely honest with yourself.

I read all that you wrote on PA after GoodET left, throwing stones on a thread you personally started. Such acts do not show your ‘shine’.

The spiritual path is all about ‘walking our talk’ and less of ‘pointing fingers’.

So you disagree……… fine……… okay, I have heard your point of view over the last 4 months

Moving on

Each one of us has had experiences that are unique to us

Please can we celebrate that………

Such is far more harmonious than,

Well…, all that other stuff…………. Imho

Love & Blessings
Breeze X :smiley hug:

http://photos.jonathanlockwoodhuie.com/unique.jpg

Agape
9th March 2015, 15:44
Yes "G" has no name officially however you have no problem putting his first name into a post on Avalon in the Contactee section that he can not see as he is no longer a member. What is the purpose of that?

Firstly .. you are not correct , no name has been used in the thread title or the post , I was very careful not to . Secondly , putting 'stone throwing' to my mouth is very unthankful , inconsiderate , there is no way I intended to hurt GoodeT.

I will tell you the reason why I posted the thread in open , in everyones eyes , PA have member section so you do here .
It serves people who are members of that forum without exactly advertising their opinions .
That's why there are Contactee and other Witness boards to protect peoples privacy .

The 'gossip' went through private channels as it does each time, you yourself have noted that PA have moderators only boards that discuss members information in private and various circles who do the same . The rest of people , many of whom are seriously concerned and confused about the 'war'
are left in blind, told to shut up and they posts edited .
So on behalf of all of you who don't agree with me because you think you have your 'safe corner' now , and more of those who were like me terrified
by the conspiracy , threats , occurring each time when problem comes I opened the thread . I was bombarded by emails and other messages , full of someones elses private details , so were many others pretending that nothing has ever happened .

It's not long one and there's nothing bad written .


I would have to leave all these public boards to get out of the continuous war between someone and someone else, using ME who are innocent in this as a liability .


: Sherlock:


Sun shines for all .

lift the veil
9th March 2015, 16:00
Firstly...I am correct. I check on things before I "throw stones." You put his first name in your last post on the "Concerning GoodeETxSG" thread. As of my post #31 here on this thread, it was there. Now you may have gone back into that thread since then and changed it, I don't know because I have yet to go back there and look.

GoodETxSG
9th March 2015, 16:05
I won't come to argue here or there with you G'' . You have NO RIGHT, absolutely no right to call others testimonies twisted . I have big heart , for you too as an experiencer . My data is on the web at least since 2006 ( or key to them to be precise ) and I don't engage in competition.

You should dwell on your intellect and facts rather than on your dumbness . ETs are not possession of any country or military and you are not here to decide for others . It's shameful feeling to be around in this atmosphere entirely, you are shaming this community with your continuous slander of others , started by you , not by anyone else .

Your statements about who you were can hardly be checked . I trust your experiences because I am more than familiar with information you present as 'something new' .

But you are doing disservice to yourself and this community .

Dumbness and brute force won't do the job . Spend few years yourself on checking resources available with mouth shut then maybe you get idea . There had been many good people before us and after us, with similar knowledge .


If you think that truth can be monopolised by you , I'm telling you it can't .


I wish you the best , kindest day ..


I am not here asking you to convince me or prove me anything . The truth will prevail .



:swing:

You absolutely did come to argue as you always do,

You profess to be an "ET" not from Earth talking down to lowly Humans in your posts all the time in a holier than tho manner using your flowery language that usually ends off into nonsense that no one can make sense of. You talk here trying to sound high and mighty but your straight for the throat attacks against me on that and other threads (Private Threads that copies have been sent to me) typing out my full name and making statements that I am lying etc... those are all fighting words.

You want people to blindly accept that you are here on Earth on a "Mission" like "Mork from Ork" yet you Poo Poo everything that is outside of your paradigm and reality bubble.

I have not tried to brute force my information down anyone's throats or tear up their information in the manner you have ever. I may only suggest they are experiencing another reality bubble than the one I am and I ALWAYs encourage people to put the information I am presenting through their OWN DISCERNMENT BUBBLE! I have said over and over not to accept the information that I, any other individuals or researchers put forth blindly. Period, No Caveat's...

You and others on that other Thread have gone out of their ways to either misrepresent or out right twist my words and information to then gang up and chastise it.

These beings that are in contact with myself and many others are asking that we raise our vibrations and become more "Service to Others" and are not here to be our "Saviors"... This is obviously no easy task for us lowly humans to attain just as it is not for some ET here on earth on a "Mission" that most often explodes out acting more like the lowest vibration of Humans here on Earth than the higher evolved Alien that ended up here on a "Mission".

You were upset about what I said on my site about the other forums founder, it was/is ALL true. LOOK into the details, these are only small threads for the rest of you to pull at to get to the bulk of the information that is available to the public. He never wanted or agreed to be Anonymous... Once I left the site he didn't want to out my name on the site but a whole lot of anonymails originating from his part of South America went out to a lot of places outing my full name and in one case I received an email of my home via google earth with a death threat. I do not have utilities or the lease in my name and the only people that knew my address were the founder, Administrator who lives in the area and visited my house and a Moderator from that Forum.

As I say on my site this is all the tip of the iceberg. If only people will believe their eyes when pulling data from the pubic business, courts and tax sites...

This was not your fight to begin with... The MILAB community was attacked head on as were 2 prominent Councilors who are not at all happy about it. Stick to your own battle where you do actually know all of the details and not just the speculation and persons "rear covering dis-info" unless you want to do the full research which will take a great amount of time...

You have definitely attacked my material because of your other problems with me out of loyalties and yes, competition where there shouldn't be any. No one wins in this scenario...

Like I said, If I am totally off my rocker and or am a complete liar then the "Blue Avian Message" of "LOVE", "Consciously raising your Vibration and Becoming Service to Others" is a positive message and is going to hurt no one to actually try to attempt.

It so happens that I am not lying and my and others coming together with this shared experience will be having quite more to share and we are NOT looking for followers as you stated in one other post...

This info is NOT to become a CULT or RELIGION as Humans love to do with this type of information or beings from off Earth... If they see this happening they will pull further away/back from the public and continue their work within this SSP's and the Shadow Civil War that is going on at this very moment... Those are NOT rocks raining down on us all over the globe (Now over 15,000 reports across the world)...

If you want to attack and call it something else that is fine... I will not get into circular debates with you or other people where it is just a waste of time, energy and a lowering of vibration that is difficult enough to raise and work on without dealing with false allegations and attacks.

You have your belief system that is obvious... I am fine with that. Stick to your reality bubble or at least do the research before lashing out all over the place in the manner you have been.

Whether you believe I am a liar or not, Your belief of that and ridicule are “of absolutely no significance.”. Neither are all of the the "Others"...

The info or message of a Path that "THEY" are giving us is not easy... I have not been able to attain it yet but am working on it (And I met them face to face on occasion and had the last etheric meeting)...

It is easier to be Bitter, Defiling the reputation of others, be Service to Self (Convinced we are the opposite) and Go about our everyday lives awaiting disclosure to be announced on the TV by Obama or another Politician (Not going to happen unless they lose a major war) and wait for some "FORCE" to come to save them... or a "Coup de Ta" to occur that will change their lives unfold all while they sit on their couches and do nothing...

The path of True Forgiveness is very difficult, the path of Choosing to LOVE and Consciously and daily strive to be Service to Others and to raise your own Vibration is a HARD PATH and involves inner reflection... A place where most people do not want to look. I am not far on this path myself and do not claim to be some prophet that has reached enlightenment...

However, even though I am running across many bumps and sharp rocks LIKE THIS in the PATH... I am sticking to this path after my experience. The fact that I have to continue meeting these and their allied beings as well as SSP Warrior minded people that think this is a bunch of "Hippy Nonsense" and have to speak with them about it... I need to continue on this path and reach some mile stones quick because I am not there yet and dealing with some of these people has been and will continue to be extremely difficult...

As always, put this and all info through your discernment filters... If it does not permeate through your reality bubble then move on... IMHO

"G"

Altaira
9th March 2015, 16:12
Agape your posts attack personally GoodET and you also diverted the whole thread. You will be banned from this thread if you continue. There are better ways of voicing your opinion and it could be done in a more respectful manner.

:back to topic:

DNA
9th March 2015, 16:41
I won't come to argue here or there with you G'' . You have NO RIGHT, absolutely no right to call others testimonies twisted . I have big heart , for you too as an experiencer . My data is on the web at least since 2006 ( or key to them to be precise ) and I don't engage in competition.

You should dwell on your intellect and facts rather than on your dumbness . ETs are not possession of any country or military and you are not here to decide for others . It's shameful feeling to be around in this atmosphere entirely, you are shaming this community with your continuous slander of others , started by you , not by anyone else .

Your statements about who you were can hardly be checked . I trust your experiences because I am more than familiar with information you present as 'something new' .

But you are doing disservice to yourself and this community .

Dumbness and brute force won't do the job . Spend few years yourself on checking resources available with mouth shut then maybe you get idea . There had been many good people before us and after us, with similar knowledge .


If you think that truth can be monopolised by you , I'm telling you it can't .


I wish you the best , kindest day ..


I am not here asking you to convince me or prove me anything . The truth will prevail .



:swing:

You started a thread about G after he left.
The only purpose seeming to throw him under the bus.


If you think that truth can be monopolised by you , I'm telling you it can't .

While you keep posting on his threads, it seems to me you are kind of working quite a bit to tear him down, and experiencing some kind of contactee jealousy.

Why don't you just focus on your own message, and leave others to their own experiences.

Dedicating a whole thread to G on avalon, after you knew he was gone and couldn't defend himself was of poor form in my opinion.

Tribe
9th March 2015, 16:48
mojo does not deserve his thread to be diverted anymore than it has . please can we go back to topic now or i will have to start deleting the posts that have no relation to the topic ! thank you very much :love:

jimmer
9th March 2015, 17:27
What we saw with our own eyes did not look like an metalic object, or something mechanic.
It was an orb or sphere of pure light in beautiful colors moving within each other, like it was some kind of plasma energy.
We saw this good good with our own eyes, not even 10 meters away from us.
We saw this on a crucial moment in our life.
We are a couple who are happily marrige for more then 16 years.
And when my woman was sick of grief, nothing could heal her.
Then we had a massive encounter on new year's eve 2013/2014.
And after 35 minutes of filming bright orb sphere looking objects, i got annoyd because i wanted to know what they are.
And i said that to my woman, then 30 seconds later one of them fly directly to our window and thats how we saw it.
That encounter changed everything.
My woman regaind a energy boost, and forgot about her grief and gave that a place in her heart.
And i got a new goal to understand what we saw.

After this day we had countless encounters with bright objects, we know for sure that we are connected in some way.
To many coincidence happend.
For excample a star looking object fly evertime near me or above me or above our home or near our home.
With naked eye it look like a star, can hover like a star and fly with the speed of an helicopter and dont make sound.
In the week of 7 aug, i filmed that object 15 times .
And sometimes three times in one evening.
And i saw that object from 20 meters above farmland to star altitude, flying close to the moon, well thats what it looked like, am not a range scientist so dont kill me on that.
Till today we still see that star looking object.
And here is the last time i filmed it flying near my home, because many times i see it fly and it vanished before i can film it.

HUGE EDIT FOR SPACE

this is the kind of witness testimony we seek here.
sinzzer is in the middle of his discoveries and we're right there with him and his family -- pulling for them all the way.

we are a unique community that does not need cross talk from other forums.
show some respect, please.

sinzzer, keep on it as you and yours find those personal truths.
and thanks for opening up with your story. it's quite inspirational.

sinzzer
9th March 2015, 18:11
this is the kind of witness testimony we seek here.
sinzzer is in the middle of his discoveries and we're right there with him and his family -- pulling for them all the way.

we are a unique community that does not need cross talk from other forums.
show some respect, please.

sinzzer, keep on it as you and yours find those personal truths.
and thanks for opening up with your story. it's quite inspirational.

Thanks Jim, it was not my intention to be in the middle of an argument what am not aware of.
I just wanted to share my story because indeed am in the middle of it and most important is, because i know i can share it here.
And maybe there are many other places and many more good people, but am not there.

Faith brought me here ( thanks to Spiral ) and TOT give me a warm place to share my experiences.
And i understand that cross forums discussion might happend because of some older issues.
I just hope that for some who does keep old grudges, that what happend in the past dont have to affect the future.
For me it is like am in the middle of it, am living the story right now on this moment.

I was about to look outside ,but then i thought let me check on internet fast, then i saw the latest replys on the forum.
So yeah, i understand that some might think its needed to talk about the past, but i sure hope we can talk about the future.
And then maybe i or others can use that wisdom or knowledge in my daily life.

Just a suggestion, because i dont want to be mixed in or fuel up the argument.
I want to talk about this subject in a mature way, and in my eyes every knowledge about this subject is welcome!

jimmer
9th March 2015, 19:00
didn't mean to drag you into it, sinnzer.

I just had to draw the comparison.

respect.

Elbie
9th March 2015, 20:09
The PA Mods actually removed my First and Last name that she posted (Edited them out) and the TOT Mod's here say they are going to do the same of my last name in post #33 of this Thread (Which is appreciated once it occurs).

There is no need for any Wars or stone throwing to occur at all IMHO... We can have different opinions and belief systems and not step over the line. If at times we do it is common courtesy to edit your own post and apologize when needed... again IMHO and way of thinking.

"G"

oh for crying out loud, of course..why so much malice around..

p.s. i'd never let anyone have my full name..i do have a nice job i care for..what would peter think of me if he discovered i'd been visited by some entities..he would probably think it's best to let me go..

lookbeyond
9th March 2015, 20:11
The PA Mods actually removed my First and Last name that she posted (Edited them out) and the TOT Mod's here say they are going to do the same of my last name in post #33 of this Thread (Which is appreciated once it occurs).

There is no need for any Wars or stone throwing to occur at all IMHO... We can have different opinions and belief systems and not step over the line. If at times we do it is common courtesy to edit your own post and apologize when needed... again IMHO and way of thinking.

"G"

Thankyou for showing such maturity GoodETsXG and as we all know "truth" will out itself in the end, so absolutely this nasty nonsense is of no benefit and unnecessarily destructive to all concerned imho

Tribe
9th March 2015, 20:14
as we have asked a number of times now please can you get back to topic ! :love:

Ledstar
22nd March 2015, 16:08
Yeah I like to share something, I had the same craft Bonnie describes come over my car in 1976. I was out in the woods sitting and this thing parked above me silent right above the tree. It then disappeared without a trace fast. A few months then I was woke up by dogs barkin at 2 am, living at my parents house. It woke me cause there weren't no dogs living close by at that time, curious I walked outside to see where there's dogs were and noticed a craft sitting in my back field. I was in my pj's and I walked up the ramp, to see this guy sitting in here. He told me to come on in, and said that I knew how to drive it. So I stood in front of the controls and took off over my town looking down on the street lights and parked cars. I then landed it back in the field. He was just a normal looking human who wore jeans. I went back to my house, and went back to bed. Thinking it was just a dream the next morning, I woke up to have grass stuck to the bottom of my feet. My whole life has been like this, and I never got to tell many cause they think I'm nuts. Still here, and looking for answers. :whstl:

ekc5150
16th April 2015, 17:23
Although I have the pic of what appears to be a large, (compared to a firefly), orb, I am not consciously aware of communication from it. I would welcome such communication, and I guess I would then be subject to the same reactions. I was feeling skeptical of even discussing the pic, but it was recent and I thought if not here, where would I discuss it? I only have one friend that I talk with in person about these things. Stigma is oppressive. I might have to change.

Robbert van den Broeke is a Dutch medium in the Netherlands, whose abilities developed after encountering a light orb in the rural field near his home. He has videos and fotos on his web site (www.robertvandenbroeke.com) - BLT Research in Cambridge, MA has studied his case for many years - he is now in his 30s. In one photo that he took many years ago, a being appeared that had feathers and it may be shown in the DVD - I think it's called "A Boy from Holland" - anyway, not too long ago, a triangular UFO appeared and he said he had an image in his mind of a bird being - if you Google "Robbert van den Broeke bird aliens" you should be able to find it. I had a reading with him in 2011 on Skype and his abilities are mind blowing - he is an incredibly loving person. I didn't know about the Avian beings until yesterday and when I saw the image of the blue bird I was floored! There is something else - when I attended a gathering at Mt. Shasta in Northern California last September (events occurred which I won't discuss at this moment), many people received their "cosmic name" and about a week later, a woman on Facebook (who was NOT at Shasta) said she had a dream where they told her that there were portals and we could use our cosmic names to travel. I emailed her and said that must have been a message and told her about Shasta - she said she had wanted to go to Shasta but didn't have the money! Now, I read this thing here about a "name" ... I hope one day I can see or hear my name. I am going back up to Mt. Shasta the weekend of 09.11 - we are gathering for PEACE. If anyone needs to email me, my email is ekc5150@gmail.com. I wish I could meet the bird beings!

ekc5150
16th April 2015, 19:41
Although I have the pic of what appears to be a large, (compared to a firefly), orb, I am not consciously aware of communication from it. I would welcome such communication, and I guess I would then be subject to the same reactions. I was feeling skeptical of even discussing the pic, but it was recent and I thought if not here, where would I discuss it? I only have one friend that I talk with in person about these things. Stigma is oppressive. I might have to change.

PS. In follow-up to my earlier post, I got the DVD in 2011 - 866.639.0656 - and it's called "Nancy Talbott presents 'The Boy from Holland: Consciousness and Crop Circles'" - in case you want to see it but you can see a lot at www.robbertvandenbroeke.com and www.bltresearch.com

Feel free to contact me with any questions - Katarina - ekc5150@gmail.com