Poignant People

[NANUXII]

So much can be derived from listening to the information from good interviews with people who are poignant to our culture =. Therese are clearly people who from our own pont of views deliver a point of difference in their essence. What a better way to feel inspired and do good things.

Id like to kick off with one of my most favorite people , Gene Wilder. not only the person but also the interviewer have poise and honesty. PLease enjoy and by all means if you feel you have a good one to add , do so.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFVh3jlla_c&spfreload=10

[NANUXII]

One of my most adored modern day philosophers who speaks with such conviction Ayn Rand , spiritually i dont agree with her entirely, however she makes some extrodinary points which i like because they get us thinking in critical terms , this is the very essence of changing mental matrix' by disrupting social stereotypes of mental constructs.

please enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u8Jjth81_Q

[777]

What a wonderful thread Nanu!

Here is one of my personal favourites by Stephen Fry, debating the Catholic Church whereupon he smashes the opposition with eloquence.

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[Sooz]

One of my most adored modern day philosophers who speaks with such conviction Ayn Rand , spiritually i dont agree with her entirely, however she makes some extrodinary points which i like because they get us thinking in critical terms , this is the very essence of changing mental matrix' by disrupting social stereotypes of mental constructs.

please enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u8Jjth81_Q

Nanu, after getting off to a fairly shaky start with each other, finally we have a meeting point between us, lol..

I have read all Ayn Rand's books, biographies, her plays etc. Albeit a long time ago.

I really look forward to watching this video. Thanks.

Sooz:)

[Altaira]

Ayn Rand is a woman ahead of her time, thanks for posting this video Nanu.

[NANUXII]

Loved that presentation from Stephen Fry , thank you , what i enjoy in these communications are the succinct manner at which they encapsulate the message . its like you are being cornered with intelligence and its impossible not to agree.

Here is one from one of my favorite musical producers George Martin , possibly one of the most influencial in modern music. I am actually very jelous at his genius in being able to produce an album like Seargent Pepper on only 4 track reel to reel ... for those of you who know what producing on a 4 track takes , the music he managed to get down and the musicality he introduced while managing absolute cutting edge effects and imagination is mind boggling.

I particularly enjoy his engloish mattere of fact demeanour , the guy has no edge to him yet is so intense in his delivery , quite an interesting human matrix.

please enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3kIzikGl6w

[monk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbyFbJFjhxk

[NANUXII]

Nanu, after getting off to a fairly shaky start with each other, finally we have a meeting point between us, lol..

I have read all Ayn Rand's books, biographies, her plays etc. Albeit a long time ago.

I really look forward to watching this video. Thanks.

Sooz:)

Thank you Sooz , we are both intense and valuable , like everyone here in their own way is truly caring about who we are and what we are experiencing. I think its good to experience special and isnpirational information and find common strains which connect us in spirit. I particularly enjoy Ayn Rand because of her seemingly logical left brain personality yet she is so deeply passionate and generous. Its important material imo and i loved Donahue's delivery and manner , that makes the interview special as well. its contravercial , it gets you involved and most importantly it gets you thinking and evolving which is what i particularly enjoy.

Hugs to you Sooz xoxo

Naniu

[NANUXII]

Mark Ruffalo really gets my attention not only when he acts but when he speaks as a person. I like his humanity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyG2PkkpjhI

[Tribe]

http://youtu.be/JywjT0okn9A

maybe you have not heard of satish kumar , he is, has been a big inspiration in my life , next saturday i will be meeting with him to talk about inner peace helping to manifest world peace , excited does not cover it! :) xx

[NANUXII]

The Matilda Roswell Interviews.

One of my favorite interviews is the alleged interview with one of the survivor ET 's from the Roswell crash. Yes i do know this interview is contraversial as being fake or doctored. I have a soft spot for these interviews not because i believe but because the information is intelligent and plausible.The information scores points for me as it is uncannily similar to knowings i have felt and been part of and they score high on my meter as important.

What i really need to point out is information to me is not something i will base faith on , this is something only my own very essence can touch or negotiate. The information that can change my faith is heavily scutinised and tested before ill take it on as plausible, even then it has to withstand the rigours of being intelligent and useful. If for example someone wrote a story that was a hoax however it was very intelligently written , almost as though it could have been written by an Et for example then to me the information is still useful. It is common many Humans stage ET or Ascended Master Chanellings for their own material to give it weight in the eyes of readers. This is a reaction to the requirements of audiences, not all but a great majority want it to be from a super being before they put all of their faith in it .. so the tinsle sometimes has too much influence over the content and presentation.

This presentation is good, the parralells as i mentioned earlier are why i feel its important. These paralells are very real to me and hearing them articulated intelligently saves me having to write all this stuff lol

I hope you enjoy this as much as i did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HoOhTwEj-0

[Curt]

Really enjoyed the Ayn Rand interview with Donahue. It was fascinating viewing, and the first time I'd really encountered her.

I found myself agreeing with a lot of what she had to say. I liked her focus on the individual. It reminded me of Carl Jung and his work, The Undiscovered Self.

But I think her definition of rational self-interest might be a bit too narrow.

After all, what could be more rationally self-interested than wanting to create a society free of hunger and poverty, with humane treatment for all people?

That benefits any rationally self-interested person- even any rationally selfish person. One doesn't need to be selfless to see the value in providing for others.

I like her call to achieve individual greatness by pursuing one's own goals.... but what about people who achieve said greatness through self-sacrifice and through working exclusively to the benefit of others?

There doesn't seem to be much room in her philosophy for them.

Jesus, Mother Theresa, Ghandi and MLK weren't exactly working just to feather their own nests, were they? And yet they achieved individual greatness.

Anyway, I liked her, and what she had to say. I'm going to explore her further, read her books and watch her lectures.

[NANUXII]

To honour my dear friend Spock. this is not an interview but rather a beautifully presented record of his humour ... such a beautiful example of man.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvNXolkz8-c

I think he would want to be rememberd like this.

live long and prosper.

[john parslow]

What a wonderful thread Nanu!

Here is one of my personal favourites by Stephen Fry, debating the Catholic Church whereupon he smashes the opposition with eloquence.

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This just so good and true it deserves another viewing, thank you very much for posting Ben ... :whstl:

[NANUXII]

Michael Tsarion undeniably real , honest reportage of his findings.

say no more.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-lDpCJElnY

[DNA]

The Matilda Roswell Interviews.

One of my favorite interviews is the alleged interview with one of the survivor ET 's from the Roswell crash. Yes i do know this interview is contraversial as being fake or doctored. I have a soft spot for these interviews not because i believe but because the information is intelligent and plausible.The information scores points for me as it is uncannily similar to knowings i have felt and been part of and they score high on my meter as important.

What i really need to point out is information to me is not something i will base faith on , this is something only my own very essence can touch or negotiate. The information that can change my faith is heavily scutinised and tested before ill take it on as plausible, even then it has to withstand the rigours of being intelligent and useful. If for example someone wrote a story that was a hoax however it was very intelligently written , almost as though it could have been written by an Et for example then to me the information is still useful. It is common many Humans stage ET or Ascended Master Chanellings for their own material to give it weight in the eyes of readers. This is a reaction to the requirements of audiences, not all but a great majority want it to be from a super being before they put all of their faith in it .. so the tinsle sometimes has too much influence over the content and presentation.

This presentation is good, the parralells as i mentioned earlier are why i feel its important. These paralells are very real to me and hearing them articulated intelligently saves me having to write all this stuff lol

I hope you enjoy this as much as i did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HoOhTwEj-0

Hey, just FYI, I'm a huge fan of John Lear, and this is one of those interviews he made available on his website.
As such I read it and I was absolutely enthralled by it.

I would even go on a limb and state for a while, I was leaning towards believing it.

And then, I have to give props to Bill Ryan who pointed out to me how much "alien interview" was aligned with scientology.
I really didn't know that much about scientology, but I was like, "so what".
And then Bill Ryan produced a document, where upon Graham Hancock busted out Lawrence Spencer in writing in how this document was completely fabricated.
Lawrence Spencer admitted to Bill Ryan and Graham Hancock in writing that
Alien INterview was indeed fiction.
I'm not doing this to attack you or your beliefs, but in a weird way I was pretty glad when I learned this.
Because Alien INterview is pretty dang disturbing if it's true.

Have a good day. :)

[DNA]

The scene in this movie helps give me needed affirmation for my views on life.
There are so many times in my life where I've made a life altering decision based on a presence.
This presence may have been god or an angel, but what is important is that a higher power got involved.
There are a lot of amazing scenes in Pulp Fiction but this has always been my favorite.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YujYTVQ4_S0

[Hermit]

When I am discouraged because it seems as if people just can't hear what I'm saying, this lecture gives me the kick in the ass I usually need. Dr. Nicholas Wolterstorff is one of the most inspiring philosophers I have encountered.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNSfM13xYEI

[NANUXII]

The Lacerta Files , one set of files that is truly getting my attention right now. Again as i have previously mentioned , wether they are hoax or not , is not important. The information however has common strains to information i have received indipendantly, that is important , this shows that the intelligence written is useful. When people report things as hoaxes it is one of a few things. It is a hoax , It is real however they want you to think its debunked, the person saying its a hoax is a hoaxer him/her self and is jelous of the material presented.

Wether its real or not is not important , to truly think anything is 100% real or not shows a lack of understanding true reality, which is all an illusion.

The Lacerta information is important because of the truth in cultural difference exposed from the points of view of another , more advanced race to ours, and in contect of they are sharing our planet ! or as they put it , Their planet ! just that alone deflates our rediculous ego and i like that ... we surely know this to be plausible ? There is Sasquach here , Reptilians and most certainly ET beings visiting us .. surely we realise these things are happening. How real they are or accurate does not matter , the material presents possible cultural narratrives that are important to absorb in terms of growing culturally as humans.

Lets say for example i am writing a book ( which i am ) and it touches on subjects that can not ever really be proven but they present an idea or content that gets attention as an alternative to what we have been presented traditionally .. wouldn t that be important ? at the end of the day all interviews are subjectively real and nothing else.

There is not truth or lies but personal opinions. The Lacerta files share things i have felt and learned from beyond.. not from here , so is the writer tapping into this stream of information too ?
the common link to it being useful is in the intelligence and quality of the information. thats all there is , emotional rants wanting it being ratified by the whitehouse is pure nonsense to ever wish for.... bunk writers that write crappy bunk ... i prefer the better bunk my self , something that is at least intelligent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzruBraUC34

I want to thank Elbie for bringing this to my attention. purrrr


N

[NANUXII]

Hwy DNA , love the Pulp ! heres my fave sccene ! and welcome to TOT : 0)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PeyiU3uWJ8

[DNA]

When people report things as hoaxes it is one of a few things. It is a hoax , It is real however they want you to think its debunked, the person saying its a hoax is a hoaxer him/her self and is jelous of the material presented.

Wether its real or not is not important , to truly think anything is 100% real or not shows a lack of understanding true reality, which is all an illusion.

Look, I'm not trying to get a rise out of you. But finding out the Alien Interview story was a hoax was pretty important for me. I was kind of hooked into that story. And I will tell you what. I do not want to believe that story is true.
That story does not have a good message at all.

Anyway, here is the information by Bill Ryan in regards to Alien Interview.

To go to the page this is posted go HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6865-HOAX-Lawrence-Spencer-s-ALIEN-INTERVIEW)

Hi, Folks:

THis morning I received another message from someone asking for my opinion about Lawrence Spencer's 'ALIEN INTERVIEW'.

Here is my standard reply to everyone who writes (and a lot of people have). This needs to be plainly stated on the internet, as this one seems not to be going away. I ask all members to cross-post this freely to other forums. The hoax needs to be cleared up... there's too much nonsense in ufology already.

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‘ALIEN INTERVIEW’ by Lawrence Spencer



Unfortunately, this book is a hoax. This is definitive.

Lawrence Spencer is careful (presumably for legal reasons) to offer the written disclaimer that 'Alien Interview'. should be regarded as a work of fiction, but it does the UFO community (and the Scientology community - see below) no favors when Spencer maintained on subsequent radio talk shows, some with sizable audiences, that the purported "interview" really happened. It did not.

Conveniently, the claimed source, "Matilda MacElroy" is "deceased" - and Spencer "destroyed all the original documentation". So we'll just have to take his word for it... and his word, publicly stated, is that he is portraying real events. Sadly, his word is not very honorable, and he is lying. I don't often deploy that unpleasant word, but here its use is accurate and fair.

Any Scientologist with any experience will instantly recognize the very large number of terms and concepts directly borrowed from (and sourced by) L. Ron Hubbard.

These are literally too numerous to list, starting right at the start with "doll bodies", "what's true is what's true for you", "If you were looking for Hell, the Earth would suffice", liberal use of the term "Space Opera", the concept that the Earth is a prison planet, and much, much, much else. Find any friendly Scientologist and they will be pleased and intrigued to go through the book line by line with you. There's a smoking gun on almost every page.

Spencer has maybe made an unfortunate judgment, and written an interesting work of fiction (and don't get me wrong here: many of the metaphysical concepts, formulated by Hubbard, may be valuable and have a great deal of truth to them) - but has then fallen into the trap of using his idea of journalistic license to portray the concepts in the framework of a "true story".

This does not help genuine UFO research one iota, and further confuses the complex Roswell issue - in which real, elderly witnesses, with great courage at the end of their lives, have come forward to tell their very real stories. Spencer discredits and dishonors these fine people by what he has done. This is my issue.

Almost as an afternote: there are many other problems with the book - many of which are already cited by other reviewers. Use of the terms "carbon dating", "computer", "database", "alien" (the Roswell survivor was called an EBE, or Extraterrestrial Biological Entity), MacElroy being a "Senior Master Sergeant" - and more - are all anachronisms: the words or terms did not exist in 1947, and show clearly that this is recent writing. The date stamp is also wrong: the author uses the English notation of 9.7.1947 for 9 July 1947... a little slip, written by Spencer, who although American is very familiar with England.

Lastly, consider what the alien's name ('AIRL') is an anagram of.

The final nail in the coffin is this e-mail, written by Spencer himself in 2000:

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From: Lawrence Spencer
Sent: 07 November 2000 02:12
To: Graham Hancock
Subject: Your victory

Dear Graham,

Congratulations to you and Robert on your victory regarding the BBC 
attack! Well Done! I commend you on your courage and persistence.

I am the author of "The Oz Factors" (I sent both yourself and Robert a 
copy of my book last spring), so I certainly do have some first hand 
knowledge how the mainstream academic vested interests operate to 
suppress the truth. My book discusses this subject as one of the 12 
"Oz Factors" which prevent our civilization from discovering answers 
to the mysteries of our existence.

I have been a Scientologist for 31 years. A good deal of my book is an 
application of the principles of L. Ron Hubbard as regards the fields 
of study into which you and Robert have so bravely advanced. Perhaps 
the material in my book will be of assistance to you at some point in 
your research.

Keep up the good fight!

Very Best Regards,
Lawrence R. Spencer
author of "The Oz Factors"
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Hey DNA , im sorry if my words felt like they were directed at you , it was strange for me at first because you were parroting what id already said so i felt that was strange and i guess the point im trying to make is strange as well, hence why you are trying to help by the " confirmation " this information is staged.

What id like to expand on with regards to information , indeed all information is that its a subjective ingestion of matrial , the proportional emotional investment in either the positive sine ascendant or negative sine wave decendant is what we need to be more aware of. You see its not important if information is true or not , whats important is if it inspires you...

What i notice is people tend to get heavily emotionally involved in information almost to the point they want to make a religion out of it or at least want the information to be solid enough to create one. But i think thats not the best way to " view " information.

We can see that this creates tension as does religious beliefs. For EG the Christian code of ethics is great yet you see christians vilifying people for being in Himosexual or Lesbian relationships, which is a completely natural responce to the individual ! so their emotional investemnt in the information or what One person says over rides their compassion element and negates it being allowed to ring true because of a false set of beliefs adhered to over and above ones own senses and eomtional compassion for another.

SO within this context it is good to take good bits of info , keeping in mind any body of work is always imperfect, and discarding that which is not relative or useful.

This i know confuses some but stay with me , If you were to re look at how we look at iunformation absorbtion the Homo Novus Gene is designed to only absolrb that which is useful for evolution, whilst maintaining , not negating , emotional balance. This is where our ancestors got it wrong because on a long enough time line all beings can become almost sterile in terms of emotions because emotions can cause really un predictable neurotic responces.

The addage now is to take command of the emotions knowing there is a time and a place to come into and exit that mental matrix.

So to create " Personalities " within " Personalities " that suit " Situations " truly means you will have a command over your entire mental and emotional matrix without losing that dearly loved Emotional responce.

Successful people do it all the time , in Martial Arts you are required to create your Warrior Mentality when you bow into training, and again when you bow out of training you slip into another relaxed and non combative personality.

This is a time honoured tradition that only few ever tried. Now its time for all of us to try this , yes its new , yes its old , yes its different but are we not bored of being the same old same old ? dont you want to try something that will help you evolve ? I mean , we all say we want to evolve but what steps are we taing towards it ? waiting for God to come down and tap you on the head with a magic wand ? he doesnt work that way i can tell you now. You want the stripes you need to earn them.,

So getting back to my point, wehter information is a hoax or not only defines wherther it happened or not , it does not define the intelligence of the information , true information is subjective always to the individual.

And i know the point you dont like DNA is that we are trapped in a matrix and can never get out .. well i didnt like that bit either so i disgarded it. Thats taking control of your emotional matrix and absorbing that information.. believing it wont necessarily make it a non hoax so dont worry so much about that. Taking control over your mental matrix is what its all about , so bearing that in mind read things and take whats useful , then let go of that which is not, because to think any body of work is completely perfect is negating reality.

N

[NANUXII]

Anytrhing Bill Ryan says , like any person, is not a definite truth. Bill wrote the Serpo transcripts , are they true ? there are some that say they are hoax, i say that i dont care , the body of work in the serpo transcripts was brilliant ! and i completely devoured them like it was a slurpee without the brain freeze !

Bill was single handedly the cause of me becoming interested in alternative media through reading the Serpo Transpcripts. Who gives a toss if they are real ! or if he made it up .. the net result is im in ! im inspired ! and i love him for that !

Just like the Atticus Material , that stuff was priceless ! and yes it was real , to a certain degree. Was it all real ? or was it all staged ? i dont care one iota , thats just comitting so much of an investment to a destination , when the journey is the best part ! You know how much i learned from studying Charles ? i still study him today because he is great at what he does , and that deserves merit, all be it that its not what i would do, who cares. I have been enriched by this information because i didnt get offended and take sies. Thats when the wheels fall off and duality steps in.

That sucks people in every time.






Look, I'm not trying to get a rise out of you. But finding out the Alien Interview story was a hoax was pretty important for me. I was kind of hooked into that story. And I will tell you what. I do not want to believe that story is true.
That story does not have a good message at all.

Anyway, here is the information by Bill Ryan in regards to Alien Interview.

To go to the page this is posted go HERE (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6865-HOAX-Lawrence-Spencer-s-ALIEN-INTERVIEW)

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[NANUXII]

This guy really encapsulates my feelings on the fear porn of the Reptilian Agenda. Every Single Word.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrDSgW3qSeg

N

what is interesting to note is how on earth did someone film a security guard in that meeting ? that front section which he and his cover man behind him were monitoring was filled with VIP from their administration, this is a High Secutiry Area that is sectioned off from the rest of the auditorium. Yet a cmera is trained back at them across the room and none of them even flinch ... then whomever had the clearence to be in that VIP section that had the liberty to film then released the footage ... does that not strike you as " odd "

hmmm


https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=es3IDWX5b74&lc=HW4oWEfqmkIcUGlc7EJXZQGjh2L9lbLqcvBxWMiSbfs

[NANUXII]

One of my favorite people in the world. Frank Zappa , a man way ahead of his time talking about trusting people to be intelligent and leaving government intervention to regulating the trash and water works. This is probably one of his most popular interviews. I feel for him being berated by a group of basement dwellers mis representing him to garner some sort of argument.
The way he hanldes them is brilliant.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc

[donk]

Thank you for the Ayn Rand video, I needed to be exposed again to reaffirm my understanding I formed of her about a decade ago.

Respectfully to those that "adore" her, I found myself feeling physically ill listening to it, like some black magic spell. Maybe it says more about me, but I found her ideas even more repulsive now than when I was immersed in political, economic and religious studies.

We are all entitled to our own beliefs, and respect yours...she is indeed "poignant"...I just am curious if there is anyone of like mind who felt like something was triggered inside of them listening to that.

PS I gained lots of respect for phil donahue

[NANUXII]

Hey Donk

Rand was definitely contraversial. And i think Phil really made that interview special, the interaction between the two is what i find most interesting in these interviews. The way its put together , the reactions from the audience , which it seemed a lot of people there felt the same as you did.

N

[NANUXII]

Contraversial and outspoken human rights campaigner Louis Farrakhan , i enjoy hearing him speak. Power in the word.

Enjoy ,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epjb-A6vOhQ

[NANUXII]

Olafur Grimsson , one of the bravest men i have witnessed in this century, as president of iceland took the decision to let the banks fail and weather the storm. What he has done is create an example of socio political reform thats revolutionary. Well worth a watch


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcibPrsmzrE

[sandy]

Wow, what a fantastic summary and resolution to Iceland's succeeding turn around..............something that needs to be heard loud and clean throughout the Western Countries........I certainly will be forwarding and referring to this talk in relaying solutions to those who indicate a sense of apathy about the world's woes. Thank you for posting :h5:



Olafur Grimsson , one of the bravest men i have witnessed in this century, as president of iceland took the decision to let the banks fail and weather the storm. What he has done is create an example of socio political reform thats revolutionary. Well worth a watch


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcibPrsmzrE

[NANUXII]

How could i leave this guy out , Jaques Fresco , has to be one of my favorite people in the world. A futurist and prolific designer , inspires the mind to look to the future with a smile.

please enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zn8MRKOskw

[sandy]

Jaques is now in his nineties and still going strong :thup: I too respect, admire his tenacity and integrity to the highest degree. He one day in the future will be talked about like Tesla today given his vision of and for mankind. A Wonderful Human BEING!!