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Ria
14th October 2014, 23:23
How To Make COLLOIDAL SILVER - The Easy Way

Colloidal Silver is the most potent disinfectant and antiseptic, and on-contact killer of viruses, bacteria, fungi and all kinds of germs. My guess is, if you want to make it, you probably know what is does, and how it has been used for the last 3,000 years. Since you can make it yourself and you need no prescription, you will not see it on TV -- ever!
Items you need:
2 ft. common electric wire (any laying around in the house)
4 small alligator clamps ( $6 for 4 at the hardware store)
3 9 volt batteries ( about $ 10)
Distilled water $0.99
Saline (eyewash drops) $2-3.00
1 ft silver wire, 999.99 pure . $10-25.00, depending on gauge, thin will do fine.
A glass (for the electrolysis) no plastic or metal containers
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Ucg5hHdb4
Instructions in the video.
You don't need a box for the apparatus or soldering anything. twist the wires and cover with electric tape. Just connect your batteries in series to get 27 Volt.
When you are done, clean the oxidized wire with a rough cloth or soda, and store all the pieces in a zip-lock bag until next time.
Store colloidal silver in glass, away from light.

License doc: http://danosongs.com/danosongs.com-license.pdf

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Ucg5hHdb4

norman
14th October 2014, 23:35
The lower the voltage the finer the result, but it takes longer.

john parslow
15th October 2014, 08:46
The lower the voltage the finer the result, but it takes longer.

Agreed! Much better to use a much lower voltage which will produce finer particles - all the better for you! It will take a lot longer but produces a better colloidal silver solution ... :whstl:

Spiral
15th October 2014, 09:16
I've posted this before, its my original set up for making CS, it really works, I got 99.9 % silver strips online, the rest was lying around the house or is easy to get if you had to go out for it.

I use boiled tap water, (distilled water is not usually potable) if the water is still warm it works quicker, say 15 mins instead of 20-25 mins.

A pulsed ioniser CS machine recently came into my hands & it's better, but not massively so considering the price !

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m508/VaguelyReticent/20111009_5.jpg

777
15th October 2014, 09:23
Oh my goodness you guys seriously rock :rock:

For the inexperienced among us (such as myself) how do you go about consuming said material? In a drink?

Sooz
15th October 2014, 09:28
I'm a bit confused about distilled water. Did a search and it said distilled water is the steam that comes off from boiling the water. HTF do you do that?! It would take forever.

I like Twirly's, uh, Spiral's, uh, Headless Horseman's view of just boiling tap water.

But then again I have a propure water filter, so can I use that? Or do I have to boil that ******* again as well?:frantic: Lol....:confused::cracky:

Sooz
15th October 2014, 09:30
Sam Hussein, or Sam Hain, or whatever you are calling yourself, you drink it you silly sausage.

Look up dosages, I think about an oz per day for maintenance and an oz three times a day if you are sick, but don't take my word for it. Just off the top of my head.

Spiral
15th October 2014, 09:37
Oh my goodness you guys seriously rock :rock:

For the inexperienced among us (such as myself) how do you go about consuming said material? In a drink?

Yes you have to drink it for diseases, the instructions that come with CS devices always say "distilled" water because they can only direct you to topical (aplied to the skin) use due to legal restrictions.

It's not something to drink daily though.


I'm a bit confused about distilled water. Did a search and it said distilled water is the steam that comes off from boiling the water. HTF do you do that?! It would take forever.

I like Twirly's, uh, Spiral's, uh, Headless Horseman's view of just boiling tap water.

But then again I have a propure water filter, so can I use that? Or do I have to boil that ******* again as well?:frantic: Lol....:confused::cracky:

Cooled steam is distilled, correct, but for making CS just boiled is fine, if you filter your water then boil filtered water the same as you do for coffee & tea.

We have a lot of minerals in our water & boiling it seems to remove them (limescale) I have also used bottled water with a very low mineral content to great success.

If you don't have hard water you could try straight filtered water.

You know its working when the water in the glass goes "milky"

The silver rods or strips need cleaning every now & again, I just give them a wipe with a pan scrub.

Sooz
15th October 2014, 09:57
The lower the voltage the finer the result, but it takes longer.

Hi Norman, so what voltage batteries would you advise and how many?

I'm new to making CS, only ever bought it made up, but if they stop shipments of it to Africa to treat Ebola victims, I can only assume in time it will be banned outright to all of us.

norman
15th October 2014, 10:20
Hi Norman, so what voltage batteries would you advise and how many?

I'm new to making CS, only ever bought it made up, but if they stop shipments of it to Africa to treat Ebola victims, I can only assume in time it will be banned outright to all of us.

Spiral's picture looks perfect. A 6 volt battery will do a nice job. It's hard to put a time on the task because surface area of the silver is a factor too. I've got a length of super audiophile signal cable that's made of pure 99.999 silver instead of copper. A single strand of it is very very tiny. That means it takes a very long time. If you can buy a piece of pure silver that's more like a thick wire shape it will be faster.

The only reason I'm using audiophile cable is because it turned up on ebay and it was cheap by comparison with the alternatives.

A bottle of supermarket spring water is ok by me. They vary though. Some have more dissolved solids in them. My favorite one in the UK is Fairbourne Springs but the co-op don't stock it any more.

Improvisation and scale of emergency is all part of the thinking. Even tap water has to be better than nothing. In fact, when it comes to storing water, I think tap water is probably best, because all the chemicals in it are likely to make it "keep" better.

Catsquotl
15th October 2014, 10:57
Hiya, Cool looking contraptions there..
So I was browsing the net for colodial silver info and get very manny pages with as many conflicting arguments.

I am kind looking for good/propper personal experiences and if possible para-scientific data. If it exists. Also an explanation on why low voltage would produce finer particles As I read that the only way to get the tiny bits is by using high voltage machinery.

Also water quality.. Tap water, boiled, distilled with or without saline drops..

And almost last anyone know the effects on auto-immune diseases and or fungal kolonies. On the body or even in the bathroom?

Let the experimenting begin.

With Love
Eelco

Spiral
15th October 2014, 11:23
In reply to comments above, I got thin silver strips from an online health store that have a good surface area & are a lot cheaper then the rods because there is less silver....as you can see in the pic above the battery is 6v and it works fine (its also easy to stick the wires under the springs, so no soldering/ alligator clips or switches needed).

My "ionic pulser" is 12 v for the record.

Bottled water always has the mineral content listed on the bottle, so if you compare different brands you can see what a small amount is.

I wouldn't use it for auto immune to be honest, I only use it when I have had contact with people who are coughing & sneezing or start to feel ill.

Not once have either my wife or I had a cold or flu etc since I started making CS, which is several years now, and I always got everything doing the rounds before !

You could try it on fungus, but tea tree oil might be better.

john parslow
15th October 2014, 13:52
Sooz you can generally purchase distilled water from garages, it is used to top-up car batteries ... :whstl:

Catsquotl
15th October 2014, 15:11
So how pure is your silver?
I find it difficult to find .999 silver. Found one shop that sells silver wire of 1 mm thickness.

A plate or thicker gauge is usualy silver 925.
Would that be good enough or should I keep looking.

With Love
Eelco

Spiral
15th October 2014, 15:46
So how pure is your silver?
I find it difficult to find .999 silver. Found one shop that sells silver wire of 1 mm thickness.

A plate or thicker gauge is usualy silver 925.
Would that be good enough or should I keep looking.

With Love
Eelco

Try the gigantic internet shop that sells everything named after a large South American river :ninja:

Catsquotl
16th October 2014, 10:31
OK found it. Not on that river by the way.

Can anyone help with pointing me to the right direction to learn more about how this process works in terms of voltages, particle release. Why pure distilled water does not work etc.
probably basic physics stuff. But yeah.. I never got the hang of that before in a meaningful way.

With Love
Eelco

Catsquotl
16th October 2014, 11:15
The simplest way to control these factors is to make the colloidal silver for yourself. By doing this, you will not know exactly what is there unless you do laboratory testing, but you will have a pretty good idea. Without laboratory testing of commercial products, you don't know much more, because the quality control batch to batch is loose with most brands. Also, by making it yourself, you will end up with real "colloidal" silver, which is the product referred to in most of the literature.

If you are already making your own colloidal silver, please pay special attention to this section because much of the information you now have may be incorrect.

The simplest way to make real colloidal silver at home is by the "low voltage electrolysis" method. A few batteries may be connected to some silver electrodes and placed in a glass of water. This process will cause small particles of silver to be sintered off the electrodes and enter the water. This deceptively simple method is very easy to do WRONG, and most people who are making colloidal silver at home are making an inferior product.

It's In The Water

When you do this yourself, it is very important to control the purity of the water, because the purity of the water is one of the factors that controls how small the particles of silver will be. Only high quality DISTILLED water should be used. You cannot use purified or filtered water because it still has too many dissolved minerals in it. You cannot use deionized water because it doesn't conduct electricity well enough to start the reaction. Distilled water is just perfect to start the reaction slowly and let it proceed properly.

Another variable that influences particle size is the water temperature. The warmer the water, the faster the reaction will take place, and the smaller the particles will be.

Please Pass The Salt

Regardless of what anyone has said to the contrary, silver chloride will ALWAYS form if any amount of salt is present. Never add anything to the water that will make the water conduct electricity better. Never add salt, sea salt, or Celtic sea salt to the distilled water because the salt puts chloride ions in the water that react with the silver to form silver chloride. Another serious problem arises when making colloidal silver with salt in the water. The presence of salt increases the electrical conductivity of the water and this dramatically speeds up the reaction. As the reaction speeds up under these circumstances, it produces larger particles. The product produced is invariably cloudy-white in appearance. Actual electron microscope photographs of this material show silver particles in the range of .05 to .15 microns. These particles are TOO LARGE to form a colloidal suspension, and the proof is that the material will settle to the bottom of the container in a very short period of time. Therefore, this home brewed "colloidal silver" product may be dangerous to consume internally for TWO reasons: the presence of silver chloride and the production of large particles.

The Best Is Yet To Come

The very best voltage for the reaction is 30 volts, because the electrodes run the cleanest at this voltage. If you have a small power supply, set it for 30 volts. If you are running on batteries, it is best to start at 36 volts (three 12 volt batteries or four 9 volt batteries) and let the batteries drain down from there. Holding the silver electrodes at a uniform distance away from each other yields a better product.

When 30 volts is applied across silver electrodes held uniformly apart in distilled water, a totally different event happens. First, the reaction proceeds very slowly. Often, for the first 15 minutes nothing seems to be happening. Then finally, a faint yellow mist will begin to form. Within a few minutes, the reaction will speed up, but the particles produced will be a golden-yellow as viewed with a flashlight. Using this method, 8 ounces of distilled water at room temperature can be made into a 3-5 ppm colloidal silver preparation in 20-25 minutes. Made this way, colloidal silver can cost under 10¢/oz to make. Electron microscope photographs of this product show a silver particle size in the range .001 to .004 microns. During manufacturing, the particle cloud is a golden-yellow. These particles will hang in the water at the level they are produced, and for the most part, will not fall to the bottom of the glass. This is what a "colloidal" preparation of silver looks like. After the particles disperse, the water will look clear again, but may turn a light yellow if the concentration is high enough and after the particles have become evenly dispersed.

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Taken from
http://educate-yourself.org/cs/csarticle2.shtml

So what do you think.

WIth Love
Eelco

Spiral
16th October 2014, 11:34
There are a lot of errors in that article Eelco, silver chloride will form anyway when you drink it because the electrolysis method produces a lot of silver ions, which is not the same as CS because CS is silver nano particles.

This is part of the scam that people selling CS & CS machines have been doing, silver ions are not CS & they have to hide this by banging on about distilled water, or fudging it by making out that ions are CS.

That said electrolysis does produce some CS, about 10 % of what is made is CS, the other 90 % being ions.

Apparently silver ions are fantastic anti microbials, so are good on the skin or for cleaning, but the minute they contact salt silver chloride is formed, which is the milky effect I get with electrolysis.

Silver chloride is not harmful unless taken in large quantities.

Catsquotl
16th October 2014, 12:38
I'm not that worried about the silver choride, although I am thinking about using just distilled water. What I did find interesting is the voltage used.
In some aricles and here on tot the thought seems to be the lower the voltage the smaller the particles. Although in other articles the higher the voltage the smaller. This one claims that 30 to 36 volts is optimum. Anyone any ideas about that?

With Love
Eelco

norman
16th October 2014, 12:50
I'm not that worried about the silver choride, although I am thinking about using just distilled water. What I did find interesting is the voltage used.
In some aricles and here on tot the thought seems to be the lower the voltage the smaller the particles. Although in other articles the higher the voltage the smaller. This one claims that 30 to 36 volts is optimum. Anyone any ideas about that?

With Love
Eelco

I find that piece you posted confusing. Even the writer seems confused about voltage effects. He/she notes that a faster reaction causes larger particles but also insists that a lower voltage does so to.

I'm going to shut up and see what others come up with.

Seikou-Kishi
16th October 2014, 13:06
Well. Let's have a think about how it works.

For one thing, pure, distilled water is not a good idea. Not because distilled water is bad to consume (it's not) but because pure water isn't a very good conductor of electricity. What actually conducts electricity is the impurities in the water, with the current leaping from one to the other through the water. This is why there is mention of a saline solution, as the sodium ions in salt are electrolytes and thus useful for this, which is electrolysis.

A high voltage is a higher eletrical potential from one silver strip to the other. The higher the voltage, the stringer the force of attraction is between the strips of silver. You can think of a high voltage as being like explosive decompression for silver molecules: it will encourage large chunks to brek off. A weaker voltage is slower because that attractive force is weaker, thus when that force manages to pull of a bit of silver, the bit it will pull off will be small: the voltage won't have the power for anything bigger.

The impurities in the water have a chance to bond with the released silver molecules. This is why it is not a great idea to use tap water, even if the water is unfluoridated. The good news is that silver is not a very reactive metal and forms compounds only very rarely. The attractive force between sodium and chlorine atoms is such that using distilled water made electroconducive by the addition of salt is a safe way of isolating pure, elemental and colloidal silver.

Catsquotl
16th October 2014, 14:02
I find that piece you posted confusing.
Yes same here.. I am confused, but thanks to SK a little less so.

One question remains. what would be a good sollution of salt.
Just a pinch, or go for 0.9 saline sollution.

With Love
Eelco

Catsquotl
16th October 2014, 14:13
There are a lot of errors in that article Eelco, silver chloride will form anyway when you drink it because the electrolysis method produces a lot of silver ions, which is not the same as CS because CS is silver nano particles.

This is part of the scam that people selling CS & CS machines have been doing, silver ions are not CS & they have to hide this by banging on about distilled water, or fudging it by making out that ions are CS.

I didn't get the idea the writer of this article is trying to sell CS or a CS machine. Reading the whole article to felt like well researched material...
But then i can be fooled to believe almost anything..

The thing I am thinking of in thinking about this is that will a silver particle bonded and "changed" to silver chloride. Still be useful in killing germs when ingested. My common sense tells me no. Which would suggest low electrolityc water would be better (dystilled) as it would have less particles for the silver to bond with prior to ingesting it wouldn't it?

Also if a low voltage means smaller particles. the reactivity of the water sollution would also come into play wouldn't it?
In my mind an easier reaction ( salter water) would speed up the process and produse bigger silver particles. Or low electrolythic propperties means more tension has to be build up which also would mean bigger particles..

Just thinking out loud here...

WIth Love
Eelco

Catsquotl
16th October 2014, 17:04
Aaaaaand another question.

As colodial silver is used as an antibiotic, I am guessing it will kill "friendly" bacteria in the gut as wel..
So do you use probiotic yoghurts or something on the side as well to keep a healthy gut bacterial colony going

With Love
Eelco

Spiral
16th October 2014, 18:45
I didn't get the idea the writer of this article is trying to sell CS or a CS machine. Reading the whole article to felt like well researched material...
But then i can be fooled to believe almost anything..

The thing I am thinking of in thinking about this is that will a silver particle bonded and "changed" to silver chloride. Still be useful in killing germs when ingested. My common sense tells me no. Which would suggest low electrolityc water would be better (dystilled) as it would have less particles for the silver to bond with prior to ingesting it wouldn't it?

Also if a low voltage means smaller particles. the reactivity of the water sollution would also come into play wouldn't it?
In my mind an easier reaction ( salter water) would speed up the process and produse bigger silver particles. Or low electrolythic propperties means more tension has to be build up which also would mean bigger particles..

Just thinking out loud here...

WIth Love
Eelco

Colloidal silver is nano particles of pure silver, it does not readily react or bond with anything, its the silver ions that bond with salt because its unstable, the two are not the same thing at all.

Here is a lengthy article about CS, Ions & the various brands & what they really contain http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html


Aaaaaand another question.

As colodial silver is used as an antibiotic, I am guessing it will kill "friendly" bacteria in the gut as wel..
So do you use probiotic yoghurts or something on the side as well to keep a healthy gut bacterial colony going

With Love
Eelco

Yes its a good idea to take a good pro biotic the day after you have taken CS and maybe for a few days too.

Catsquotl
22nd October 2014, 11:50
Just adding this comment I found under the first poste video on youtube..
Sort of making this thread an aquired info on CS if no one minds...

With Love
Eelco

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ok here goes. First of all distilled water less than 5 ppm of soluble this this is to maintain the integrity of the colloids. Now. 1>How to produce the ion? this is really important. the silver .wires or electrodes must be .999 silver or better. 2. the operation must have 30 volts or more as any less you get a oxygen attachment to your ions. no bubbling as it also generates oxygen. 3. I suggest 40 volts or more (silverlungs.com) Cafalde trained me. he is master chemist in Chemistry dealing with precious metals. 4. this is very important change polarity on your electrodes often,as that keeps the solution from dropping silver oxides to the bottom of your vessel. 5. in 2 to 4 hours youl have 20 to 40 ppm colloids depending on the time. you continue the voltage to the water. Also stir quite often but slowly.
6 now you should have a clear liquid. If making a quart of Colloid solution add 1 1/4 teaspoon of non GMO corn starch this sets up a chemical reduction when heated to 180 degrees thus allowing ions to become metals (silver) in 20 atom clusters. the liquid when cooled should look like the color of honey , not yellow like silver chlorides. I have produced many gallons of 20 to 40 PPM colloidal silver for medicinal use and its always tested superior. Hospitals here use it in cleaning and many drs and nurses drink it. I guess they like the taste.
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Windancer
11th April 2015, 03:04
Hello All! I have been making my own colloidal silver for years and have not turned blue yet! I use distilled water and 9999 silver wires. Some are flat and long, some are slim and long and I have used 9999 silver dollars too in a bind. I do not salt my water for as I understand, it changes the property of the solution. It should be clear. Can be kept indefinite and I do not measure, but just gulp as needed. Mouthful or so several times a day.
I have even put little kits together and given them out for Christmas.

You can use it on counters and the like but I would rather use Hydrogen peroxide, super oxygenating a surface is just as beneficial as bleach. I just do not like bleach because it is not good for my well. Heck I put food grade peroxide in my well too!, and use it in laundry but just the stuff in the bottle from the drugstore. The food grade is too powerful and can have a "bleach" effect...oops....sorry off point.
Have any questions aout silver water I can try and help answer your questions though...
Take care!

Aianawa
11th April 2015, 03:38
Thankyou so much all, will now be doing this

dlipter
11th April 2015, 15:19
Years ago I built a colloidal silver generator using a 10kv neon sign tranformer. I used a gallon sized container and 3-electrodes. One silver bar was partially submerged in the center along it's length, and two silver wires were suspended about 1/2" above the water on either side of the silver bar. When energized, a cone of water would lift from the water around each suspended silver wire. It was facinating to watch, however not being able to determine the quality of product being produced, I discontinued using the generator.

Any comments about this type of High-Voltage colloidal silver generation?

Windancer
12th April 2015, 02:30
Any comments about this type of High-Voltage colloidal silver generation?

10 KeV is a bit much perhaps. Too large particles maybe. Not real sure, probably good that you discontinued that practice...LOL But you have the idea though!

Tonz
12th April 2015, 06:27
Such an interesting thread Ria.

Catsquotl
12th April 2015, 06:52
Any comments about this type of High-Voltage colloidal silver generation?

Well ther is a guy selling high voltage produced collodial or nano silver. I can't remember his name or the product. but he explained or rather had this theory of why his extremely high voltage produced a better collodial silver than store bought generators...

So don't throw out that idea yet.

With Love
Eelco

Sooz
12th April 2015, 07:51
Well I ain't no rocket scientist, so I'm going to continue to buy my CS 'Silver Bullet' - high octane stuff, from Infowars. Now there's a plug. lol. Supporting alternative media.

Between gargling my essential oils, taking manuka honey and CS, have not been sick of anything for 4 years. Before that I used to get at least one cold a year, like most people during winter. Oh and just wash your hands when you come home when being out and about. Supermarket trolley handlebars are where you are likely to pick up germs. Your toilet seat is probably cleaner than those things.;)

tinihanga
13th May 2015, 13:23
I've been meaning to make colloidial silver for ages.
Just never seemed to find the time.

Anyone using the process from the video in the first post?
If so how do you like the results.

J.