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norman
10th October 2014, 23:59
Pretty simple, isn't it?

Linda Moulton Howe claims she spoke to a Military high-up who told her "Linda, they even created the dinosaurs".

So, when the new model comes out, does the old model "GET IT" ?


edit:

I realise that:

1) Some will not even agree with the basic premise that ETs are manipulating us to that degree.

2) Some will remind me that there is a case to argue that Neanderthals are still around.

Tonz
11th October 2014, 00:14
sorry norman i don't get it i'm a little duhhh at times , can you elaborate ,,,a lot more on the subject!


So, when the new model comes out, does the old model "GET IT" ?

get what ?

norman
11th October 2014, 00:18
get what ?



That they have been made obsolete and a new hybrid model is about to take over the show.

Cearna
11th October 2014, 02:55
The Dinosaurs were on their way out by the time the Annunaki arrived. I remember being called to Lemeuria from Atlantis, because they were worried about the Dinosaurs, their eggs seemed to be unable to hatch a live babies out.

The Neanderthals had arrived long before these ETs arrived, having been produced by the Danaans from the Plaeides, from a mother of a Danaan, and a small bear like creature (something like a bear, but wasn't one). Two different species came as a result of these mixes, but they lived on the only land available at that time, which was Gondwanaland.

The next species to come from that was the Australian Aborigine when after the war against the Annunaki, the two species decided to merge to fight against them and in that war, beat the Annunaki. They stayed merged together so the species moved on rather than got taken out. Some stayed as Neanderthals during this time, and when the land masses altered to become 7 workable land masses they moved to the north to settle there and later again met the newer races coming in from ET stock to elect to merge once again as one new species.

There was one great need to be overcome and that was scorching from the newly emerging sun which had been covered right throughout time by the brown dwarf known by some as Planet X, which began to move into another orbit. The Sun became all that was left to live by, and because of the movement away of the Dwarf Sun, the Earth moved more into a Goldilocks zone, giving us a lot of Light hitherto unknown to us. This plus the movement of the lands allowed men to settle and grow plants, and begin to husband sheep and other animals suitable to allow them to live in some sort of pleasurable life. The ETs of that time were more like animal origin rather than the human origin which we gained from the Danaan, and they've wanted our DNA ever since to make live progeny from.

This was not known nor written of, but told to me now over a long period of time by the Archangels who arrived her in the Cretaceous period, and so have known what happened on Earth ever since that time. They also realised that my memories were simple, but available to me, for I had been here from even before the Angels arrived, helping to caretake the land. There is a story from Mother Earth in the Channelled forum telling of how Earth began.

Calabash
11th October 2014, 10:11
I voted no because even allowing for education and evolution, the majority of humans are just as much in the dark now as they've always been - imho :)

Chickadee
27th October 2014, 01:51
I voted yes in hopes they weren't that dumb and actually carried some intelligence

modwiz
27th October 2014, 02:26
I believe they knew their existence was threatened so, I voted yes.

Altaira
27th October 2014, 09:06
We don't know who they really were. Just by the reconstructed physical features and few bones here and there we cannot tell for sure. I think they might have been a highly spiritual creatures whose intelligence cannot be measured by the known scientific standards. It is interesting to know how our human vehicle has been created and how the consciousness has evolved using the matter though.

Highland1
27th October 2014, 21:17
I wont vote yes or no, because there is fair evidence that we are in part, descendants of early humans and neanderthals after interbreeding over time.
There will most likely be trace dna in all of us from all early hominids as well as off world dna........
As we all in time evolve to suit the current habitat that we exist in, it wouldnt surprise me that in a thousand years from now we will look even more different from what we look like now.
Other questions one could ask in the distant future is:

Did 21st century humans realise they were also being replaced?

Are we actually really being replaced? Or are we simply evolving to survive the toxic environment that we ourselves have created?

Does our planetary host mother, as a living entity, play a part in how we evolve?

Are there extra terrestrial factors also involved in the tweaking?

My own gut feeling, is that we human beings are "cosmic hybrids" and we are all made up of a little bit of everything from everywhere from time immemorial.
In other words, it may be that.....it is we that are the aliens, the reptilians, the angels, the demons,the gods, the devils, the djinn, the annunaki, the neanderthals and every other possible entity our creative imagination can create, whether it be good or evil, beautiful or ugly, living or dead, dimensional or interdimensional for perhaps ...............that's what it really is to be human.

We imagine....we create.

Russ

Highland1
27th October 2014, 21:59
Furthermore......

Oldest genome sequence of a modern human suggests*Homo sapiens*first bred with Neanderthals 50,000-60,000 years ago

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Neanderthal DNA specialist Svante Pääbo examines the anatomically modern human femur, found near Ust’-Ishim in western Siberia. Photograph: Bence Viola/MPI EVA


Ancient human bone helps date our first sex with Neanderthals

An ancient leg bone found by chance on the bank of a Siberian river has helped scientists work out when early humans interbred with our extinct cousins, the*Neanderthals.

A local ivory carver spotted the bone sticking out of sediments while fossil hunting in 2008 along the Irtysh river near the settlement of Ust’-Ishim in western Siberia. The bone was later identified as a human femur, but researchers have learned little else about the remains until now.

The importance of the find became clear when a team led by*Svante Pääbo*and*Janet Kelso*at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig ran a series of tests on the fragile

Radiocarbon dating of pieces of the leg bone put the remains at around 45,000 years old. The team went on to extract DNA from the bone, which allowed them to reconstruct the oldest modern human genome ever.

The genetic material showed that the thigh bone belonged to a man who carried about 2% Neanderthal DNA, a similar amount to people from Europe and Asia today. The presence of Neanderthal DNA meant that interbreeding between them and modern humans must have taken place at least 45,000 years ago.

But amid the DNA were more clues to when humans and Neanderthals reproduced. Strands of Neanderthal DNA found in modern humans can act like a biological clock, because they are fragmented more and more with each generation since interbreeding happened. The strands of Neanderthal DNA in the Siberian man were on average three times longer than those seen in people alive today. Working backwards, the scientists calculate that Neanderthals contributed to the man’s genetic ancestry somewhere between 7,000 and 13,000 years before he lived.
The findings, published in the journalNature, suggest that humans and Neanderthals had reproductive sex around 50,000 to 60,000 years ago, though other couplings might well have happened later. Until now, estimates for interbreeding have varied enormously, ranging from 37,000 to 86,000 years ago.

“What we think may be the case is that the ancestors of the Ust’-Ishim man met and interbred with Neanderthals during the initial early admixture event that is shared by all non-Africans at between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago, and perhaps somewhere in the middle East,” Kelso told the Guardian.

But a small number of fragments of Neanderthal DNA in the man’s genome were longer than expected given how many generations had passed. Those might be evidence of his ancestors breeding with Neanderthals closer to the time he was born.

“Everyone outside Africa has about same amount of Neanderthal DNA. It seems to be something early on where one really mixed with Neanderthals in a serious way,” said Pääbo. “Since that happened I wouldn’t be surprised if, now and again, one did it here and there later on too.”

Prior to the latest study, the oldest modern human genome came from the 24,000-year-old*remains of a boy*buried at Mal’ta near Lake Baikal in easterbn Siberia.

Chris Stringer, head of human origins at the Natural History Museum in London, said the ancient DNA from the Siberian man sheds fresh light on the story of early human migrations out of Africa. In the 1920s and 30s, researchers found 100,000-year-old skeletons of modern humans in caves in what is now Israel. The remains may have belonged to a group of humans that left Africa and ultimately went on to colonise southern Asia, Australia and New Guinea. But an alternative explanation is that they were from a migration that failed to go much further. According to that view, the more successful dispersal of humans out of Africa happened much later, around 60,000 years ago.

The latest findings suggest that the ancestors of modern Australians, who carry a similar amount of Neanderthal DNA to Europeans and Asians, are unlikely to have picked up their own Neanderthal DNA before 60,000 years ago. “The ancestors of Australasians must have been part of a late, rather than early, dispersal through Neanderthal territory,” Stringer said.

“While it is still possible that modern humans did traverse southern Asia before 60,000 years ago, those groups could not have made a significant contribution to the surviving modern populations outside of Africa, which contain evidence of interbreeding with Neanderthals,” he added.

•*This article was amended on 23 October 2014. An earlier version referred to finds by researchers in the 1920s and 30s “in Israel”; Israel had not yet been founded then.

Source http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/22/ancient-human-bone-sex-neanderthals-oldest-genome-dna

Russ

Chickadee
28th October 2014, 06:26
If I remember correctly- it all has to do with the forehead and the bridge of the nose..

And yes- I can see my Neanderthal genes in my face and my hips and butt-- funny thing is, my father in law and I had a good laugh about this. I truly believe it comes from the Eastern European pool.
I'd do the national geographic specimen but HELL NO

Highland1
28th October 2014, 10:11
Love the avatar Chickadee!

Russ

norman
29th October 2014, 01:33
I'd do the national geographic specimen but HELL NO




oh go on!

It's the silly season after all. :frantic: