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Ria
3rd October 2014, 00:06
Need help with,
Hydroponic vertical food growing.
Vertical out side wall maximum protrusion from wall 8 inches/20 cm. 3-4 sq meters in different size sections
Looking for simple cheep set up.
Any info most great full.

norman
3rd October 2014, 01:40
Which compass direction does the wall you have in mind face?

[ assuming you are in the south east of england ]

Ria
3rd October 2014, 07:41
The wall is mainly east with a slight tilt to the south. :garden:


Thanks

norman
3rd October 2014, 16:05
That implies more early morning warmth that has to be somehow retained through the day.

Anything my imagination can come up with involves changing the look of the wall a lot. What would your neighbors be like about you creating 'eye-sore'?

Highland1
3rd October 2014, 16:23
Careful with hydroponic lighting Ria, a large amount of busts are purely down to observant police helicopters seeing lighting the rays from miles above!

Just saying......not that I am a cultivator of natures greatest plant or anything....

Russ :eyebrows:

Ria
3rd October 2014, 16:27
That implies more early morning warmth that has to be somehow retained through the day.

Anything my imagination can come up with involves changing the look of the wall a lot. What would your neighbors be like about you creating 'eye-sore'?
With out some sort of visuals it's hard to say. I naively thought it would look rather nice to have a wall covered in greenery.

Russ, I don't think growing veg is an arrest able offence yet.:eyebrows:

Highland1
3rd October 2014, 16:48
Not yet Ria, not yet....lol

Russ

That Guy
11th December 2014, 15:30
Need help with,
Hydroponic vertical food growing.
Vertical out side wall maximum protrusion from wall 8 inches/20 cm. 3-4 sq meters in different size sections
Looking for simple cheep set up.
Any info most great full.

I started a thread about it on PA in the of grid section, check it out.


http://youtu.be/Rj4MzjxjGck


http://youtu.be/JgCZa6VSpwY

Seikou-Kishi
11th December 2014, 16:08
That zig-zaging form looked like a spiral at first and I thought how great it would be to have such a spiral with a column of lights in the centre. It's probably hard to get circular pipes though.

I love the idea of "vertical farming". Having just a single additional "row" of planting doubles the growing space. Very space-conscious.

Seikou-Kishi
11th December 2014, 16:11
With out some sort of visuals it's hard to say. I naively thought it would look rather nice to have a wall covered in greenery.

Russ, I don't think growing veg is an arrest able offence yet.:eyebrows:

Right you are. There's no such thing as a vegetable eyesore and any neighbour who thinks otherwise can remove their heads from their rear compartments and stow their opinions in the vacated area lol.

That Guy
11th December 2014, 17:29
That zig-zaging form looked like a spiral at first and I thought how great it would be to have such a spiral with a column of lights in the centre. It's probably hard to get circular pipes though.


www.omegagarden.com/


http://youtu.be/r4g6kox30_c


http://youtu.be/84zh7XL15n8

Ria
11th December 2014, 18:30
Thanks for your input That Guy


Right you are. There's no such thing as a vegetable eyesore and any neighbour who thinks otherwise can remove their heads from their rear compartments and stow their opinions in the vacated area lol.
Well humm neighbours, I mention having some chickens, "I can't stand the noises I'd shoot em" I reassuringly said I would not have cockerels, no it's the sweet little noise the hens make he doesn't like. On the other side she has become jealous that her dogs like me, I'm keeping to my self as best I can as I'm in close proximity. :getcoat:

Ria
12th December 2014, 01:34
This chap has made his own green wall, very impressed with his cauliflower.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y9eEsBoKL8g

Seikou-Kishi
12th December 2014, 02:14
www.omegagarden.com/


http://youtu.be/r4g6kox30_c


http://youtu.be/84zh7XL15n8

This is fantastic. I wonder what issues would arise in trying to create a very tall one shaped not like a wheel but like a tank track. It could have a "speed" button so that an operator could quickly cycle throgh to whichever plant they wanted. We have inner-city housing towers called high-rise flats in the UK (I guess maybe "residential skyscraper" in the US?) and I could imagine such buildings having a shaft like the lift (elevator) shaft which could be almost entirely window. It would have the advantage of growing in size with the number of residences and contributing towards if not fully meeting the nutritional needs of the occupants.

I loved the magenta light, too. It's about time somebody put their brain into gear and realised any light containing green light will he wasting some of its energy by producing light which is reflected back. Having said that, it doesn't necessarily mean that the complementary opposite is necessarily the best colour to use. Just because a colour is absorbed, it doesn't mean it's as readily used as another which is also absorbed, thus testing wold be indicated to determine which frequencies a plant prefers in order to maximise efficiency. Secondly, we would also have to take into account that colour/frequency preferences might differ between species — especially species which are differently coloured: assuming for the moment that all plants prefer (i.e., thrive best under) the colour which is the complementary opposite of the colour of their leaves, plants which have leaves of yellower green would probably prefer a light inching towards purple, while bluer leaves would probably prefer the light to inch from magenta to red. Then there are red-leaved plants, which would probably do very badly under magenta light and might prefer light that is more turquoise.



Edit: I'm not sure why this has happened; my post is outside the quote tags so it shouldn't be doing this.

norman
31st January 2015, 01:41
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Ria
31st January 2015, 01:58
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norman
31st January 2015, 02:41
I can see them ok, even in your quote selection.

Are you using an i-device? Those things are trouble.

Bob
31st January 2015, 02:52
The pics are not showing up

Website responds with HOTLINKING is NOT allowed (for those images)..

Elbie
31st January 2015, 02:55
I can see them ok, even in your quote selection.

Are you using an i-device? Those things are trouble.

they are not showing norman from my end either

ria, have you thougt about this super easy stackable system..they only cost a quid each, you can get them from poundland if you have one locally

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.607986379644208389&pid=15.1&H=160&W=160

they sell as strawberry planters and i don't see why would they not be suitable for lettuces.

happy planning..i can't wait myself for the weather to warm up just a little, so i can start my small projects. having said that, i don't look forward to fighting slugs&snail devils once again..so much clay here.

Terra
12th May 2015, 08:36
Hey Ria,

Did you work out a solution in the end? Am curious to see how you got on :)

Been wanting to go the hydroponics/aquaponics route myself. This year due to lack of money, I just tried planting strawberries in a wooden pallet backed with weed fabric. Seems to be doing well so far and am expecting a fair bit of fruit from it. Will take some pictures before they get picked, if I remember.

Cheers,

Ria
12th May 2015, 11:00
As yet I have not Tarra,
However I am developing a vertical / wall garden, all be it small.

Daozen
12th May 2015, 14:26
Following... Interesting topic.


Careful with hydroponic lighting Ria, a large amount of busts are purely down to observant police helicopters seeing lighting the rays from miles above!

Just saying......not that I am a cultivator of natures greatest plant or anything....

Russ

If they hired more 'basement hydroponics experts' to set up indoor vegetable growing farms you could double our food supplies within a year.

Ria
12th May 2015, 14:39
Following... Interesting topic.



If they hired more 'basement hydroponics experts' to set up indoor vegetable growing farms you could double our food supplies within a year.
Your right, it would.
Except I don't have a basement.
I was looking for something that would fit into a long narrow space.
Any way the idea is still on the to do list.
I was thinking about about the police issue, I was thinking maybe just call them up and tell them about it and say come and have a look.

Daozen
12th May 2015, 15:12
You might be alright if you do that. It would save you getting raided at 5am in the morning one day. Or start a blogspot and notify them. When I knew people who grew plants in their basement, they said they could catch you by noticing the spikes in electricity consumption. Grow lights consume a lot of power.

If you are legit + legal you'll have no problems. More than a few people have proved you can get good vegetable yields in a tiny space. Square foot gardening will help a lot of people in the future.

mac
12th May 2015, 17:55
<cough> ICMAG <cough> :whstl:

DeeZe
12th May 2015, 18:34
FWIW, it is my understanding that when growing veggies, you do not want to use the same lights as are used for indoor cannabis cultivation. Those lights are specifically designed for the needs of cannabis. You actually can grow veggies with a lot less wattage. Also the light spectrum is different.

Sorry, I don't have the details at hand, but with the above you could research more for yourself if you are so inclined.

:love: