Sasquatch Vocalizations 3.0

[Frances]

Hello Samos good to have you back.
The Invisible Giants Video. Mike is confused when Nephatia says "Ashantia" "Sister" he does not recognise the words he is unable to repeat them.
If as K Odum has said, she gave that information to Mike in a telephone conversation before he recorded the Invisible Giants video, he would have recognised the words.
That did strike me as being odd.

I would need a memory refresh about the little people and if you have any more information if you get the chance would you pass it on please.
I did not put together about the long faced creature being an unicorn.
Yes you are right a script can be easily put together when all the information is already out there.

Once again I enjoyed your break down and balance.
Frances.

[jimmer]

hey samos,

I'm with you, certain benchmarks need to be
set and satisfied before accepting the fantastic.
the 'timeline' was my benchmark. if we listen to
'invisible giants,' the name ashantia is really
hard to hear. in the moment, mike didn't get it.
I can buy that. we're judging from our comfortable
arm chair where is easy to dissect all the rushing moment
to moment details. unless we think that mike is in
cahoots with ms. odom to create a false narrative,
I'll stick with mike, always with that thinking cap on.
it should be interesting to see what develops as mike
returns to the tent.

next, mike will 'test' odom's channeled sas family name,
macante, to see if that registers.

now, I do really appreciate your point-of-view, samos.
if I were you, when you have some time, I'd PM mike and
quiz him some to help clear up the fog.

[jimmer]

here's a new post from m.k.
let's see what he has to say...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xsWCBdx83g

[jimmer]

if you didn't catch this from 'speaking of bigfoot E3'
here's the representative of two sas habituants that
reports on sas healing and other paranormal things.
very interesting...always with them.

http://youtu.be/ToDd_LTs8NU?t=11m17s

[jimmer]

You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into... BV2.

ok, I had to get that out of the way.

as a companion to m.k.'s lovelock skull video (above),
here is a snippet of an ancient aliens episode
about the giant red haired people and their remains
kept out of sight, stored in a cabinet.
next, m.k.'s discovery that something has gone missing from
that cabinet, with photographic evidence to prove it.
wonder why?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPuJqWoyoyk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anONSqEk2Y4

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/TUHsbqW5_dc

Published Mar 10th 2014.
Video 30mins but stick with it as it's well worth it.

Steve O'Neil Researcher.

The comments on his youtube channel are enlighting and he takes the time to answer all the comments.
He is a very brave man to go there on his own when he is tracking Sasquatch.


This video has captured an angry Sasquatch, the Sasquatch is angry due to the fact that Steve has put a camera in his rock shelter.

The videos that Steve makes are for education schools, conservation.
www.earthshinediscovery.com
Frances.

[Frances]

Steve O'Neil is a naturalist and educator from Brevard, North Carolina, USA.
He is Executive Director of Earthshine Nature Programmes, a not for profit wildlife and nature conservation and education organisation.

It works to help people better understand, connect and coexist with nature and wildlife, especially the more misunderstood wild creatures, such as reptiles, amphibians and Sasquatch.
Frances.

[Frances]

You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into... BV2.

Love the above Jimmer.
Frances.

[jimmer]

You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into... BV2.

Love the above Jimmer.
Frances.

have we unlocked the door or opened pandora's box : )

lov'in it.

[jimmer]

This video has captured an angry Sasquatch, the Sasquatch is angry due to the fact that Steve has put a camera in his rock shelter.

The videos that Steve makes are for education schools, conservation.
www.earthshinediscovery.com
Frances.

that is one ticked-off sas!
what a find, frances.
that was forth the wait.
next time, steve should bring the correct backpack and a diaper.
if this sas individual is now really, really ticked-off at steve,
wonder what would happen if steve returns at sas bed time?
milk and cookies or ouchie!

I agree, this guy has a set.

[Frances]

I have been reading the comments section.
My thoughts.

Steve has a gental simplicity about him. He does not carry fire arms and has good intentions in his heart. Sasquatch can deal with cameras, no threat to them.
Guns are.

He was watched but not harmed, this I believe was due to his good heart and being part of a bigger picture ie education and conservation of the environment and Sasquatch.
Maybe Steve is one of The Special Ones, I don't know but I will keep it in my mind.
The Sasquatch could have done anything they liked to frighten and harass him but they did not.

He uses high quality stealth video cameras, you can tell by the quality of the videos.
I have subscribed to his channel so I can keep up to date.
Frances.

[jimmer]

I have been reading the comments section.
My thoughts.

Steve has a gental simplicity about him. He does not carry fire arms and has good intentions in his heart. Sasquatch can deal with cameras, no threat to them.
Guns are.

He was watched but not harmed, this I believe was due to his good heart and being part of a bigger picture ie education and conservation of the environment and Sasquatch.
Maybe Steve is one of The Special Ones, I don't know but I will keep it in my mind.
The Sasquatch could have done anything they liked to frighten and harass him but they did not.

He uses high quality stealth video cameras, you can tell by the quality of the videos.
I have subscribed to his channel so I can keep up to date.
Frances.

well, you could say that steve has received his initial sas 'warning/threat.'
whether it's the 'one-off scaring' we've learned about or just the beginning
of a threatening relationship, we'll see as things progress.
keep us updated, frances. a cool find.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/WPb8-ZtNLY4

Published Mar 11th 2014.

Analysis of video footage taken from the trail cam on the last tracking day.
Tracking day was episode 7.
Good breakdown with some slow motion and on - going commentary.
Frances.

[jimmer]

from 2013, m.k. investigates the spiritual connections
between ancient native american burial mounts,
artifacts depicting portals and possible early sacred beings.
a sas connection?

as always, m.k. misses nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Cy2vkXDfo

[jimmer]

Mike Paterson WebRadio Interview
thanks to frances, here's the latest mike paterson interview
at whispers in the dark. first hour of the show.
let's see what he has to say. (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/viktoraurelius/2014/03/13/whispers-in-the-dark--episode-89)

[jimmer]

mike did a nice job blowing the
minds of the two hosts : )
nothing really new, just reporting
on what we know. spreading the word.

as for the rest of the show -- what hilarity.
the sidekick, bound and determined to
contribute says, uh-huh, hmmm, uh-huh
about one thousand times. the main
content was that the guest's mother
has developed cataracts. wow. what
a waste of time. the good thing, they'll
have mike back asap.
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/blogwasteoftimehourglass_zps072aea91.jpg

[Frances]

I'm so glad that M.K. is giving us more of his thoughts about portals, ancient tribes and the clues that are linked to Sasquatch.
My thoughts have been confused since he said Sasquatch and Bigfoot are not the same species.
I have not got a clear picture in my mind yet.
I am hoping he is leading up to that and is going to connect more dots.
Frances.


I agree with your above post Jimmer.
The interviewers should have done their homework.

[jsb_swampfox]

I'm so glad that M.K. is giving us more of his thoughts about portals, ancient tribes and the clues that are linked to Sasquatch.
My thoughts have been confused since he said Sasquatch and Bigfoot are not the same species.
I have not got a clear picture in my mind yet.
I am hoping he is leading up to that and is going to connect more dots.
Frances.


I agree with your above post Jimmer.
The interviewers should have done their homework.



Just Listened. I was disappointed that the guys doing the interviewing didnt do their homework. I think Mike never got to get into anything new because he basically had to catch these guys up to speed. Anyways, I am looking fwd to his new video. I still have been amazed when he mentions things like the gifts sas leaves, no one thinks about the fact this is something coming from another realm into ours... and staying.

Frances, I too have hard a hard time understanding that Bigfoot and sas are different beings. But maybe they are from the same place or realm as sas.

[Frances]

I have been thinking, not always a good sign!
Anyway M.K. Talks about the ancient people going up through the sky, a portal.
Not all of them went. There was some left behind.
So in my thoughts I am thinking that the ones we call Sqsquatch were the ones that went through the portal.
The ones left behind are what we call Bigfoot.

The Sasquatch developed as inter - dimensional beings.
The Bigfoot remained on earth and developed stealth and secrecy.
This is just my thoughts.
Frances.

[jimmer]

I have been thinking, not always a good sign!
Anyway M.K. Talks about the ancient people going up through the sky, a portal.
Not all of them went. There was some left behind.
So in my thoughts I am thinking that the ones we call Sqsquatch were the ones that went through the portal.
The ones left behind are what we call Bigfoot.

The Sasquatch developed as inter - dimensional beings.
The Bigfoot remained on earth and developed stealth and secrecy.
This is just my thoughts.
Frances.

that's good thinking, frances.
wonder if mike has any thoughts about that?
he does seem to answer PMs.
he may have an opinion.
could be interesting...

so, who are the visitors -- the linear ones?

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/vQoJZgMXIOk

Searching for Sasquatch. Steve O'Neil.

Published Feb 12th 2014.
Video 15mins.
Good on-going commentary during the video.
Frances.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/wEiKiYw_2II

Published Feb 13th 2014.
Video 16 mins.
Bedding area.
Frances.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/31g5HhjlUF8

Steve O'Neil with wildlife biologist Alan Cameron.

Published Feb 14th 2014.
Video 18 mins.

Another nest.
Frances.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/TlsOwU_AqOA

Published Feb 13th 2014.
Video 23 mins.

Tracks in the snow and something unexpected.
Frances.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/dIXh77UDyOM

Published Mar 5th 2014.
Video 24 mins.

Video concentrates on food the Sasquatch may eat and the set up of a camera trap at a bedding area.
Steve thinking he may of frightened the Sasquatch away due to no activity.
Frances.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/ERdW5IiWHGA

Not much is known about this video, as it says, it is controversial.
Uploaded Apr 8th 2006.
Video is only 30 seconds long.
Frances


http://youtu.be/WOUzdIUmZ9U

Breakdown of Hoffman video.

Published May 13th 2013.
Video 1min 20secs.
www.thecryptocrew.com

This is a closer look at the Hoffman video and you can see what might be insect bites on the skin.

[Frances]

http://www.sott.net/article/234783-The-Truth-About-Hair-and-Why-Indians-Would-Keep-Their-Hair-Long

Link to an article on long hair.
This is a very interesting take on the difference between long and short hair.
Frances.


I am thinking of the sensory powers of the Sasquatch/Bigfoot.

[jimmer]

the chandlers are the two habituants who
are represented on Speaking of Bigfoot episodes.
from 2013, here's the annoucement that they
want to sell their home and property,
to live a sas-free life.
guess no takers, yet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3oOuI30ehc

here's the interview with the chandlers.
should be interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_159738&feature=iv&src_vid=g3oOuI30ehc&v=UeCpEB2RzCw

[Frances]

It's very real and I even imagine frightening.
It would make an excellent research station for any researcher with good intentions.
Must say if they were knocking on my windows and running along my roof I would be terrified they would fall in to my bedroom.
Could give anybody a heart attack.
Frances.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/wx-oFT45oqo

Published July 18th 2013.
Cabin on small lake outside Lady Evelyn Smoothwater Park Temagami Onterio Canada.

Mrs Heibert was opening her blinds in the back bedroom and noticed a large upright creature on the top of a hill 50 - 70 yards away.
Mr Heibert grabbed a digital camera and went outside and took some pictures.
Frances.

[jimmer]

here goes...
at first I had a reserved feeling about
Sasquatch Tracks and Steve O'Neil.
he seemed sincere, but unlike lots of other
researchers, a lot of his video content was about him
and his 'science' methodology.
but I'd say to myself, 'what a tracker and what incredible luck,'
then I expanded one of the YT video's 'about' to discover this: (emphasis mine)

Published on Mar 5, 2014
I have been into the forests many times over the last month and I have not seen any more sign of the "Sasquatch."
Maybe it has moved on--or possibly my presence in its habitat has frightened it away.
Whatever the reason, I continue my search for this elusive being.
In this video I comment on possible foods of the beast and set up a camera trap at one of its bedding areas.

--------------------------------------


Disclaimer:

The Sasquatch Tracks YouTube Series is for Educational and Entertainment purposes only.

This series was created entirely by Steve O'Neil for the purposes of education and entertainment.

The events depicted in this film series are fictitious. Any similarity to any living or dead person or
as yet unidentified sasquatch/bigfoot/yeti/Gigantopithecus-l*ike creature is merely coincidental.

No sasquatch/bigfoot/yeti/Gigantopithecus-like creatures were harmed, displaced, angered, harassed or
discovered during the making of this video series...but that does not mean that they do not exist...somewhere...out there...

Believe and dream big, but be careful what you believe in and do your own research because
in today's computer generated world what you see on TV and YouTube may not always be what it seems...
and always, always read the credits.

Dare Mighty Things


so, it appears that these out-of-the-box,
really really lucky finds were totally fabricated
to promote steve's child naturalism educational classes. (http://earthshinenature.com)
if true, it's disturbing that anyone would harm their professional credibility by doing this.
nowhere in the video credits is there a mention of hoaxing. only in the 'hidden'
YT 'about' descriptions. this disclaimer appears with all his YT Sasquatch Tracks postings.
as it turns out, steve is a naturalist who unwisely chose this tact to promote his business.

too harsh?
your thoughts?

[jimmer]

http://www.sott.net/article/234783-The-Truth-About-Hair-and-Why-Indians-Would-Keep-Their-Hair-Long

Link to an article on long hair.
This is a very interesting take on the difference between long and short hair.
Frances.


I am thinking of the sensory powers of the Sasquatch/Bigfoot.


I just threw away my razor ; )
fascinating story.

[jimmer]

Published July 18th 2013.
Cabin on small lake outside Lady Evelyn Smoothwater Park Temagami Onterio Canada.

Mrs Heibert was opening her blinds in the back bedroom and noticed a large upright creature on the top of a hill 50 - 70 yards away.
Mr Heibert grabbed a digital camera and went outside and took some pictures.
Frances.

I've seen some of those images, but never knew
where they came from or the backstory.
fascinating.
nice find, frances.

[Frances]

Just after I posted all those Steve O'Neil videos it turns out he is a fake.
Well you win some you loose some.
Good detective work Jimmer.
Hope a skunk gives him a spray of nasty smells that he can't wash off for a week.
Frances.

[jimmer]

Just after I posted all those Steve O'Neil videos it turns out he is a fake.
Well you win some you loose some.
Good detective work Jimmer.
Hope a skunk gives him a spray of nasty smells that he can't wash off for a week.
Frances.

I know what you mean, frances.
someone should strap him down
and have a sas pee on him.
that would teach him.
how could any parent trust him
with their child if they knew he
was so off-balance.
no one that I saw called him out
in the video comments.
he's pretty creepy.

[jimmer]

the history channel is debuting a new
show called, cryptid: the swamp beast.
it's listed as 'documentary,' but no, it's
a mixed bag of real experts, eyewitness
accounts, special effects and scripted themes all in
search for a swamp entity, presumedly, bigfoot.
not sure if everyone can watch yet on the telly,
but recent and future episodes will on the history channel website.
dubious as to how this will shake out or be received
considering all misdirection and outright hoaxes
on this subject (h-e-l-l-o, steve o'neil).
who knows, it may be worth a look, at least.
I took a peak and it looked interesting... (http://www.history.com/shows/cryptid-the-swamp-beast/videos/cryptid-the-swamp-beast-the-bone-pile?m=5189717d404fa&s=All&f=1&free=false)

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/ScreenShot2014-03-14atMarch-14-20141207PM_zps49d32b7b.jpg

[jimmer]

Art Bell 2001
a vietnam vet and hunter recounts his run in with a male and female sas.
hint: it doesn't turn out so well for any of them. (http://youtu.be/jAOpjVO5Sxo)
if you haven't heard this before or even if you have,
it's pretty riveting stuff.

[samos]

Hello All,

Good catch, jimmer..on Steve O. His trail cam vid was very deceitful and easy to fall into the trap...hindsight showed me a few things I shouldn't have missed. My only initial impression was 'jeez he put that camera close to the bedding area'. Also, I didn't really care too much for the 'Sasquatch' song. So.... good to say good-bye to him. Thankfully I didn't get any further with his vids.

You've all been posting some great info and videos. It's hard to keep up and sometimes I think earth shattering information just breezes right by..on to the next. This is typical of Sasquatch Ontario's evidence. He will mention musical notes coming from the forest, visible lights and portal doors, strange new non-Sas beings, and the list goes on and on, not to mention non-stop vocal recordings better than anything out there. Yet, the subscribers over there do not wish to discuss or get any details, just more of a fan club. This is why I prefer TOT :tea: ...getting to the real grit.

Frances, I listened to the Chandlers video today. Interesting, but their evidence is lacking. It seems they have some rather 'odd' neighbors to consider as well. The trail cam 'time outs' was very intriguing, though. Yes, they want out, but they didn't seem completely terrorized by their activity. Seemed rather mild. A note about Sas on the roof....a few years ago, I had to remove a squirrel from my attic space and from the noise you would have thought a large dog was up there. I really couldn't believe how loud and was surprised (and relieved) to find only a little squirrel. What would Sas on the roof sound like? Elephant...or just silent? Mike has said they hear the boards on the deck creak from the weight but no tracks on it. It is perplexing...

Also, Frances...I have searched the comment sections for the 'Nettaewo' to no avail. It's a lot to search through. I do remember Mike had nothing to say about it, although I found it interesting and explained my Malaysian findings. This was the first I had heard of them, and also we had talked about 'Orang Pendek', another little creature. Here is the Wikipedia link if interested http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nittaewo It's not my wish to give false statements to support my beliefs. This could have been a result of google+, losing whole comment sections. Not sure?..I have personally uninstalled google+ every time they force me to upgrade.

About the long hair and sensitivities...I will begrudgingly admit to having long hair many, many years ago (hah hah), but do not remember being more in tune to energies around me. What I do remember is it being a hindrance to me, always blocking my vision, hot, and requiring maintenance. You want to know something I did once notice?.... when observing everyone I personally knew who had long hair, a common denominator was that they had all grown up without fathers....True story....this revelation did not include Step-fathers.

Sorry to be off topic...continue on :back to topic:

[mojo]

amazing stuff..:)

[Frances]

Hello Samos, that's a very interesting article about the Nittaewo.
It's always good to keep these pieces of information in your mind as you never know when you may need that information.
I was not familiar with them. Thanks.
Frances.

[jimmer]

Hello All,

Good catch, jimmer..on Steve O. His trail cam vid was very deceitful and easy to fall into the trap...hindsight showed me a few things I shouldn't have missed. My only initial impression was 'jeez he put that camera close to the bedding area'. Also, I didn't really care too much for the 'Sasquatch' song. So.... good to say good-bye to him. Thankfully I didn't get any further with his vids.

yes, it didn't feel quite right. really, really intrusive and bordering on disrespectful and from a 'naturalist.' in context, it all makes sense.
I'd never trust my kids with him.

You've all been posting some great info and videos. It's hard to keep up and sometimes I think earth shattering information just breezes right by..on to the next. This is typical of Sasquatch Ontario's evidence. He will mention musical notes coming from the forest, visible lights and portal doors, strange new non-Sas beings, and the list goes on and on, not to mention non-stop vocal recordings better than anything out there. Yet, the subscribers over there do not wish to discuss or get any details, just more of a fan club. This is why I prefer TOT :tea: ...getting to the real grit.

some content irks comments, further investigation, some do not. it does seem all over the road at times, but we post'em as we find'em. and then trust our memories to absorb and gather.
all I know is that mike's adventures are breaking new ground or at least publicly-shared ground. all other traditional research has turned up little, for decades.
of course, we're all hand-in-hand with this leap of faith ; )

Frances, I listened to the Chandlers video today. Interesting, but their evidence is lacking. It seems they have some rather 'odd' neighbors to consider as well. The trail cam 'time outs' was very intriguing, though. Yes, they want out, but they didn't seem completely terrorized by their activity. Seemed rather mild. A note about Sas on the roof....a few years ago, I had to remove a squirrel from my attic space and from the noise you would have thought a large dog was up there. I really couldn't believe how loud and was surprised (and relieved) to find only a little squirrel. What would Sas on the roof sound like? Elephant...or just silent? Mike has said they hear the boards on the deck creak from the weight but no tracks on it. It is perplexing...

they seem like people who are comfortable with themselves, enjoying themselves. at this point, they aren't intimidated by the family,
just annoyed and want to be left alone. they had it up to here with those jokesters. I find that charming and hilarious.

Also, Frances...I have searched the comment sections for the 'Nettaewo' to no avail. It's a lot to search through. I do remember Mike had nothing to say about it, although I found it interesting and explained my Malaysian findings. This was the first I had heard of them, and also we had talked about 'Orang Pendek', another little creature. Here is the Wikipedia link if interested http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nittaewo It's not my wish to give false statements to support my beliefs. This could have been a result of google+, losing whole comment sections. Not sure?..I have personally uninstalled google+ every time they force me to upgrade.

that is quite an interesting and insightful find. but wonder why nephie would be repeating the title of an extinct small sas tribe?
does that title make more sense than an affirmation like, 'let's get it on, bro.'

About the long hair and sensitivities...I will begrudgingly admit to having long hair many, many years ago (hah hah), but do not remember being more in tune to energies around me. What I do remember is it being a hindrance to me, always blocking my vision, hot, and requiring maintenance. You want to know something I did once notice?.... when observing everyone I personally knew who had long hair, a common denominator was that they had all grown up without fathers....True story....this revelation did not include Step-fathers.

hope your'e well and see you back soon, samos.

Sorry to be off topic...continue on :back to topic:

[Frances]

Long hair. Growing up without a father. Making you strong, independent, relying on your own instincts to get you through the bad times and growing up times.
Frances.

[jimmer]

saw a couple of news reports that hoaxer rick dyer's
dead bigfoot caravan isn't going so well.
wonder why?
take a look at this shot of the nose.
the nostrils are filled in.
what a fool. nice going dyer.
r.i.p.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/ScreenShot2014-03-15atMarch-15-2014851AM_zpsd0c26e95.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0fHpGTsHPQ

[mojo]

Just watched of Steve O videos. Did think his placement of the game cam was not the best choice and some aspects of his edit such as the bigfoot song seemed out of place, but the video seemed authentic. Should we not wait for forensics on the hair sample or other future evidence to indicate hoax or not?

[jimmer]

Just watched of Steve O videos. Did think his placement of the game cam was not the best choice and some aspects of his edit such as the bigfoot song seemed out of place, but the video seemed authentic. Should we not wait for forensics on the hair sample or other future evidence to indicate hoax or not?

hey mojo.
nice to see you here again.
as for this steve o,
his own disclaimer says it all...

The events depicted in this film series are fictitious. Any similarity to any living or dead person or
as yet unidentified sasquatch/bigfoot/yeti/Gigantopithecus-l*ike creature is merely coincidental.

No sasquatch/bigfoot/yeti/Gigantopithecus-like creatures were harmed, displaced, angered, harassed or
discovered during the making of this video series...but that does not mean that they do not exist...somewhere...out there...


or can we not trust steve's disclaimer?
a hoax? ; )

[mojo]

that disclaimer say's it all...was it in reference to the sasquatch series? that is so Orson Welles-like, missed it and fell hook, line & sinker..

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/J-LLzvZH8d8

Uploaded Feb 28th 2014.
Video 5mins.

Good short presentation of Gigantopithecus by David Attenborough at Londons Natural History Museum.
Frances.

[jimmer]

that disclaimer say's it all...was it in reference to the sasquatch series? that is so Orson Welles-like, missed it and fell hook, line & sinker..

yes.
it's hidden below the fold
on all of his posted sasquatch
tracker videos. what a tool.
don't feel bad, no one else
detected it either.
the last line shows his contempt
for we mortals:

"...what you see on TV and YouTube may not always be what it seems...
and always, always read the credits."


http://jandeane81.com/threads/317-Bigfoot-Vocalizations-2?p=16312&viewfull=1#post16312

[samos]

Long hair. Growing up without a father. Making you strong, independent, relying on your own instincts to get you through the bad times and growing up times.
Frances.

That is a nice thing to say :) Frances, I've always liked your genuineness.

[samos]

Several months ago, I shared a few emails with an habituator from Washington State, named Russell Wiitala. He had written a comment about his experiences with a clan of Sas running his group of researchers off. Curious, I decided to write him and inquire what had happened. I'm posting his first letter and am sure he would not mind as he is a very nice and enthusiastic guy. He has a detailed method of locating 'clans' which seems to work...4 of his 5 most likely chosen places has shown evidence of Sasquatch activity. I'm also posting the videos which support his claims in this letter. (from YT channel - Russell Wiitala) The audio is difficult to hear but it is there if you listen intently. Of course, it helps to have the narrative :)

1st letter dated 9/14/13

Thank you for your inquiry.
There were several things that happened that could have attributed to the patriarch's decision to end our habituation of his clan. It is hard to say what for sure. One of my co-researchers invited four Squatcher's up there for an overnighter. The camp site was within two hundred yards of their domicile. This is what I think is the most likely reason. The night we got kicked out I had started a fire at that location and because of wet wood it smoked really bad and wafted into their domicile. I will never start a fire while doing a habituation again. We added a co-researcher, the daughter of my co-researcher and that was her first night. A logging had been done within half a mile of their domicile. This also may have been a contributing factor.
After we arrived that night and started fire we could hear them grumble and imitate birds. The young one sounded distressed. Then the patriarch went west and up behind us. The two brothers went south and up another way. The patriarch then called, imitating a coyote or wolf and the brothers returned the call. I knew that something was up because they didn't even try to be quiet when they moved into position.
We tried to laugh it off and I played a couple of songs on my guitar which usually brought them up close. This time after I got through with the second song the patriarch pushed a tree over. After that we left.
A few days later we went back and we decided to try and set up on the landing where he went to make his call to his sons a few days later. That night he wasn't there, but saw us on the landing from several miles away across an adjacent valley and on a ridge. The daughter of my co-researcher was wearing a neon green sweatshirt. The patriarch started screaming over and over for seven minutes while he came closer and closer. I joked that maybe it was the green sweatshirt he was upset about. She put a coat on over the sweatshirt and it stopped screaming like someone had turned a switch off.
I'm pretty sure he knew who he was screaming at. So we decided to let that clan alone.
I do have recordings of these two events, but one just sounds like coyote's pretty much and the other is so far away that it is of poor quality. However, I have heard a recording from California of Squatch screaming for over twenty minutes. If you find that one it is exactly what we were hearing. I can't remember the location name of that one, but you might be able to find it without too much trouble.
You are right about the younger ones. I have located three clans in since Mar. 2013. Two of those clans would not have been found if it weren't for the young ones. I will be posting the pictures of three sets of prints of the young ones clustered together soon. One of those young ones may have been spotted by Kessa (co-researcher) while we were eating lunch.
All three of us heard them return a call from their mother who was concerned about their whereabouts. They were only a few yards away at the time.
The young ones are much more receptive and open to engagement with humans.
The first time I heard one up close was a female from the first clan we were habituating. I finished playing my guitar for the first time and she said Ahhhhhh, as if she was disappointed that the show was over. I can't tell you how excited I was about that. : ) Cheers

Tree push @ 1:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WngirLnjatE&feature=share&list=UUOvq07-M8zAHMAfQK7Tusdg&index=5

Screams in the distance..listen closely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj99nrT2-84&list=UUOvq07-M8zAHMAfQK7Tusdg&feature=share&index=6

Sasquatch prints at newer location

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ee4rL5BSSM&list=UUOvq07-M8zAHMAfQK7Tusdg&feature=share&index=9

bigfoot screams...comparison video he mentions
http://youtu.be/wTsdbKUwenI

[jimmer]

a great find and reporting, samos.

wonder if the habituators ever had one-on-one
vocal interaction or were their experiences purely observational?

considering the first video, mike seems to be right not
to use his site as an amusement park for sas researchers.
too many untested, unaccepted visitors nixes the deal, the trust.

in the second video, the screams sound like sonic blasts,
at a regular interval. if it was a warning to them, why so distant?

could this be the audio that russell referred to?
sierra mountains, california, USA. 2012
the calls do sound very similar -- sonic blasts, regular intervals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTsdbKUwenI

here's the same guy searching what I thinks is the location
of the sas vocalizations he recently recorded. lots of evidence.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx3s2V1vhpA

[Frances]

Being surrounded by a clan of Bigfoot. They know how to hunt, intimidate humans.
They don't even have to attack humans they just put themselves in a good stragic position so they can be ready for any outcome.
I have seen videos of camps destroyed after people have fled the area leaving expensive camping gear behind.
I can well understand the dislike and fear of smoke and fire.
Frances.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/chmma4u0qJ8

Video 21mins.

Owner and curator of the Capritaurus Bigfoot Discovery Museum In Felton California.
Michael's passion is art and the education of people into the reality of Bigfoot.
A gental look at his life and his wonderful roadside museum.
Frances.

[jimmer]

I had a thought -- let's examine sasquatch habituates.

we watch mike and his incredible discoveries at his habitat
and as we wait for his latest, what about all the others?

they're all over, dedicated by some of the most interesting people out there.

to kick this off, here's jerry habituating his upstate NY USA site.
the piece is way too short, but it's a start.
besides, the jeff lynne-style music isn't too shabby : )

who else can we check out...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Vwj4k4U54

[modwiz]

I live in Upstate NY in the Catskill mountains. I wonder if he was in the Adirondacks, North of me. Adirondack is a Native name for wilderness, with emphasis on the wild part.

[jimmer]

I live in Upstate NY in the Catskill mountains. I wonder if he was in the Adirondacks, North of me. Adirondack is a Native name for wilderness, with emphasis on the wild part.

as you we imagine, jerry wants to be left alone
with his sas pursues -- no location or last name
provided. nonetheless, they are out there doing
what they do best, trying to figure out this mystery.
as you know, modwiz, upper state ny has some of the most
lush, natural and forbidding areas of america --
and real squatchy.

[jimmer]

here's eric in his washington state domicile,
living a solitary life, onto himself and his 'neighbors.'

several posts from his collection of diary entries.
the last one, vocal interactions triggered by his flute is 'very cool.'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuXY4Of4rGw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB8ymnUScBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc4pdvL5YPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybGraZxxK18

[jimmer]

http://youtu.be/chmma4u0qJ8

Video 21mins.

Owner and curator of the Capritaurus Bigfoot Discovery Museum In Felton California.
Michael's passion is art and the education of people into the reality of Bigfoot.
A gental look at his life and his wonderful roadside museum.
Frances.

what a great profile and life story.
I've seen his face all over and never
stopped to check out mike rugg.
one of the grand-daddys of modern
bigfoot research and a central clearinghouse
for sas related folklore.
an extremely prolific YTer with over 200 posts
(he's got a producer), he is certainly a leader of the
traditional american bigfoot research ethos.

here are a few interesting posts:

habituation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbWfBr50k88

local interaction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjyyhhYAM0E

photo evidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMk3VJHQx_4

[norman]

The BBC has just broadcast this program made by a reporter who went to northwest USA to talk to a few people about the Bigfoot phenomenon:


http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/t7aq74nai9/BBC_NATURE_BIGFOOT_lowbit_.mp3

[jimmer]

The BBC has just broadcast this program made by a reporter who went to northwest USA to talk to a few people about the Bigfoot phenomenon:


http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/t7aq74nai9/BBC_NATURE_BIGFOOT_lowbit_.mp3

my takeaway?
very little progress over the decades.
just confusion.
that's why mike's exploits are so exciting
and meaningful.
the traditionalist scoff at his findings, protecting
their life's work of running around from place
to place with guns and cameras in tow.
the result? nothing.
mike makes them feel misguided and
they don't like it.

[Frances]

Hello Norman, did you post a link to the BBC show. I am not able to see anything.
Thank you for letting us know as I would like to check it out.
Frances.

[Frances]

A lot of researchers are highly secretive about their locations and research.
There are so many organisations and groups of people who go out to look, and try to photograph the Bigfoot.
It's also quite a money making venture for some who will exploit the opportunity.

I cannot blame the true researcher for their secrecy as many people will spoil the magic and true nature of it all.
Frances.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/ZFOkT3maFOA

This short video gives an example of what happens when a location is given out to campers or just people in general.
The area becomes tarnished.
Frances.

[jimmer]

north carolina residential habituation site.
no names are provided.
habituant/researcher christoper noel narrates. (https://www.youtube.com/user/impossiblevisits/videos?flow=grid&view=0)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O7JaEpH8EA

[jimmer]

This short video gives an example of what happens when a location is given out to campers or just people in general.
The area becomes tarnished.
Frances.

and other researchers criticize mike for
not sharing his site/finding with others,
calling him a hoaxer.

this man's grief is why mike is protective, so secretive.

btw: it was bob garret and travis who documented two destroyed,
abandoned camps that we reviewed a year or so ago at the original BV.
who would drop everything and leave all your camping goods
behind, never to be retrieved?
part of the 411?

here are those videos, now in context...

"This is where the screams came from..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOn2Zh5A3-w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8yPMREj67I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bup1ssMgvxg

[norman]

Hello Norman, did you post a link to the BBC show. I am not able to see anything.
Thank you for letting us know as I would like to check it out.
Frances.

It's not a TV show, I don't 'DO' TV. It's a recording of a radio program.

Just click on the player in the post to hear it.

[Frances]

Faces In The Foliage.
It's the magic, harmony and balance that's there, you feel it just watching the video.
Reinforces my belief even if I don't see a Bigfoot.
Frances.

[Frances]

I'm sorry to be a pain Norman. I use I pad so am I looking for something that would only show up on a computer/ lap top?
I am still unable to see a link to a player.
Frances.

[jimmer]

at first this video doesn't seem like much.
you'll want to 'pause' to read the narrative.
view full screen.
the 'watcher' payoff awaits...

btw: ParaBreakdown thinks this may be a hoax, but then again,
ParaBreakdown recently posted steve o'neil's 'contact' video as authentic, without rebuttal. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kLs2pbs5AE)
so there you go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FSPm4x30jI

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/R3pvaAhMWzM

Published Feb 3rd 2014.
Vid 6mins.

Taken in 1936 at an isolated area New South Wales.
Image of an Australian Yowie or equivalent of a Sasquatch.

New image study sheds light on features of the photograph not seen before.

The human eyes did not pick up the intra-dimensional image but the camera did.
Frances.

[jimmer]

here's a good find: bigfoot hotspot radio.
of all the sas shows and all the hosts, this
one is well produced, intelligent and after
listening to this posted episode, a real
trove of excellent bigfoot adventures.
if you'd like something playing in the background
as you work on your life, this could fit the bill.
feel free to save the link for future listening.

https://www.youtube.com/user/bigfoothotspotradio

this episode is fascinating. host will jevning (a researcher
with years of cred) interviews woody and will on their
'class a' encounter that'll raise your hair.
hint: includes time lose.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J74H7lgD0U

[jimmer]

Published Feb 3rd 2014.
Vid 6mins.

Taken in 1936 at an isolated area New South Wales.
Image of an Australian Yowie or equivalent of a Sasquatch.

New image study sheds light on features of the photograph not seen before.

The human eyes did not pick up the intra-dimensional image but the camera did.
Frances.

ow, that's a goooood one.
image living the rest of your life
thinking of that day, that place?
what's that in the hand?

[Frances]

Yes Jimmer, what is in the hand?
I have thought many times about the object that is in Patty's left hand.
Now I think about the object in the hand of this Sasquatch in the photograph.
I always feel it is some sort of symbol, I am trying to understand the symbolic aspect of the Sasquatch communication.
My mind is restless about this subject.
Frances.

[jimmer]

Yes Jimmer, what is in the hand?
I have thought many times about the object that is in Patty's left hand.
Now I think about the object in the hand of this Sasquatch in the photograph.
I always feel it is some sort of symbol, I am trying to understand the symbolic aspect of the Sasquatch communication.
My mind is restless about this subject.
Frances.

an inter-dimensional stick, tool?
but it looks fuzzy, like the hair.
hmmm.

[jsb_swampfox]

I found this link to this interview over at PA. I am listening now, and this guy seems to have the the same view as us on the nature of the sas.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIqyiPz735c

UPDATE: He seems way more legit to me than if I had not watched Mike's stuff. I will watch part 2 later. I think it is worth the listen...Cant find part two?

[jsb_swampfox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvr15_gtD5Q

[Frances]

I enjoyed the interview with Will Jevning Jimmer.
It's another side to the Sasquatch that is a big consideration, they are hunters too.
Just want to point out about David Paulides, author of Missing 411, he was alerted about the problem of missing people in the National Parks by an insider.

The insider had worked in various National Parks and had been alarmed by the amount af people who had gone missing and the circumstance of how they had disappeared.
Frances.

[jimmer]

after dutifully checking multiple times
a day, jeff beats me/us to it. darn.

jeff is now officially awarded the BV2 Metal of Distinction : )

and what a treat for we enthusiasts.
mike's been pouring over this one for
quite some time I suspect. several new photos to
peruse. how about that hairy arm near the end?

lots of new content, all tied together in context.
events we've been told are now documented.
more like a documentary than his usual videos.

a big step forward, we merrily go.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/BV2MOD_zps9bb30ba2.jpg

(best I could come up with : )

[jimmer]

I found this one today, but did't want to diminish mike's new,
incredible anthology, but I did't want to lose this one, either.
so, here it is.

over the years, scott carpenter, has been
shooting video over his shoulder, theorizing that
'misdirection' would catch a sas unawares.
he's gotten some results, but this could be his best case
of a camouflaged, peeping sas yet, illustrating how stealthy they are.
(there's a second, more analytical version of this one.
it's more of the same if you're interested.)

scott goes full m.k. with his analysis.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ix0MuvozLg

[jsb_swampfox]

after dutifully checking multiple times
a day, jeff beats me/us to it. darn.

jeff is now officially awarded the BV2 Metal of Distinction : )

and what a treat for we enthusiasts.
mike's been pouring over this one for
quite some time I suspect. several new photos to
peruse. how about that hairy arm near the end?

lots of new content, all tied together in context.
events we've been told are now documented.
more like a documentary than his usual videos.

a big step forward, we merrily go.
In all fairness my friend, I must confess I am a utube subscriber and got the notification in my email. But thanks for the award :). I have only watched it one time, I will have to watch this several more times. I will say, I am slightly disappointed in the little bit of new vocal interaction. I think I am getting impatient, I am ready for Mike to take this to the next level, whatever that may be.

[jimmer]

In all fairness my friend, I must confess I am a utube subscriber and got the notification in my email. But thanks for the award :). I have only watched it one time, I will have to watch this several more times. I will say, I am slightly disappointed in the little bit of new vocal interaction. I think I am getting impatient, I am ready for Mike to take this to the next level, whatever that may be.

I get notices too, but I didn't see it before
the shock of your new post popped up.
thanks again for that, jeff.

I don't know. I'm happy with the
new vocals he put together (mike has said he doesn't hold
much back, so maybe there's not much more),
but for me, the new context of his first tap on the head or
the branch thumping interaction while setting up his tent,
and other only previously inferred experiences
is really appreciated. not just stories, now real events.
and I'm glad he didn't focus too much on the 'hand prints,'
that I believe to be 'drawn by hand,' not imprinted.
and the eyes? he that left out, as well. even mike doesn't have
the foggiest what those are.

so, this epic journey was to bring us all up-to-date
with joy in the soul and a smile on our lips.

this year could be a doozy.

[jimmer]

I enjoyed the interview with Will Jevning Jimmer.
It's another side to the Sasquatch that is a big consideration, they are hunters too.
Just want to point out about David Paulides, author of Missing 411, he was alerted about the problem of missing people in the National Parks by an insider.

The insider had worked in various National Parks and had been alarmed by the amount af people who had gone missing and the circumstance of how they had disappeared.
Frances.

it's interesting -- the contrast between
mike's experience and the other scared to death
people, including 411.
as we've learned, if you are the right kind of person
and you're lucky enough to begin interactions with a
juvenile sas the chances of kinship are far greater.
adult sas, who have not interacted with
us grow very leary and potentially hostile.

[Frances]

I have just finished Jeff's video featuring Kewuanee Lapseritis, which has reinforced my view of three different species.
1. Bigfoot.
2. Sasquatch.
3. Ancient Ones.

I am still in the process of tying lots of things together, I am getting somewhere but not fast.
Frances.

[jimmer]

I have just finished Jeff's video featuring Kewuanee Lapseritis, which has re-enforced my view of three different species.
1. Bigfoot.
2. Sasquatch.
3. Ancient Ones.

I am still in the process of tying lots of things together, I am getting somewhere but not fast.
Frances.

I've heard those we trust say the same thing, that sas and bigfoot are
different. but how? that I've missed.

here's one expert's view, but he's missing the point, I believe. (http://www.ourbigfoot.com/bigfoot_sasquatch.html)

btw: we should keep our ears to the ground
for further keewaunee posts. he says that
soon he will be taken through the sas portal
with memory intact. they told him he will
then understand quantum physics.
more than interesting.

[jimmer]

I found this link to this interview over at PA. I am listening now, and this guy seems to have the the same view as us on the nature of the sas.

UPDATE: He seems way more legit to me than if I had not watched Mike's stuff. I will watch part 2 later. I think it is worth the listen...Cant find part two?

me neither. seems not to be posted.
did a search and couldn't find it.

7 separate species. whoa.
remember scott nelson saying
that the sierra sounds were authentic
and that mike's vocals were bogus?
didn't match up.
if it is true that there exists many different
species of sentient sas-like beings,
sounds like mr. nelson needs to go back to school.

[jimmer]

kewaunee interview.
let's see if we gather
anything. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3DkzQIOobo)

[modwiz]

an inter-dimensional stick, tool?
but it looks fuzzy, like the hair.
hmmm.

That's what I was thinking. The Annunaki had dimensional wands (crystals) for just such inter-plane travel.

[Frances]

I have e mailed M.K. the link and a covering letter of The Australian Yowie.
I am hopeful he will take an interest in the photograph and work his magic and expertise to bring out the best image.
I will wait in anticipation.
Frances.

[jimmer]

I have e mailed M.K. the link and a covering letter of The Australian Yowie.
I am hopeful he will take an interest in the photograph and work his magic and expertise to bring out the best image.
I will wait in anticipation.
Frances.

if he could get the original or
a first gen print, maybe.
but the image displayed in that
TV piece is so stepped on,
even m.k. would have a tough
time extracting anything useful.

hope you are successful, france.

[jimmer]

kewaunee talks sas species.
I haven't finished yet, but
he talks about a sas type
with a muzzle, bear-like. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbIR-GMS2yQ)

58 minutes

[jimmer]

not sure if you noticed, but
mike has returned to the comment
section of his latest video compilation.

some interesting stuff there, like
mike hinting at sas mind speak with him...


Jim DiBattista23 hours ago

Mike have you read this, it'sa BIG FOOT MESSAGE as Shared by Standing Elk
http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/2014/03/big-foot-message-shared-by-standing-elk-2465862.html

Sasquatch Ontario18 hours ago

Yes I read that earlier this week. Thanks. 

[Frances]

It's strange in the article by Standing Elk, he says " take tobacco to them ".
I am of the impression that the item in the Australian Yowie photograph that the Sasquatch is holding is a pipe. Post no 570. Page 38.
Frances.

[jimmer]

It's strange in the article by Standing Elk, he says " take tobacco to them ".
I am of the impression that the item in the Australian Yowie photograph that the Sasquatch is holding is a pipe. Post no 570. Page 38.
Frances.

I just took another look.
full screen didn't help much, then
I looked around the scene.
could that 'object' simply be
part of the surrounding roughage?
could it be that the beings cradled hand
is partially obscured by a arbitrary broken
tree branch? looks similar to another branch.

unless a good print emerges, we may never know...

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/ScreenShot2014-03-20atMarch-20-20141116AM_zps99c93521.jpg

[Ria]

I found this link to this interview over at PA. I am listening now, and this guy seems to have the the same view as us on the nature of the sas.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIqyiPz735c

UPDATE: He seems way more legit to me than if I had not watched Mike's stuff. I will watch part 2 later. I think it is worth the listen...Cant find part two?
Part two should be out today, as Miles was doing the cutting yesterday, I will look forward to viewing it. Thanks to all for this thread. Have to dash now.

[jimmer]

thanks ria for the tip.
I took a peek and here's part two
of the miles/kewanunee interview.
so what's with this title, End of Humanity?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdGJCzTu2AY

[jimmer]

from samos (who is busy with his new pursits):

Hello jimmer,

I'm sending you a link to a very good interview with Mike Wooley and his bigfoot encounter.
(Multiple bigfoot encounter while hunting) I know we have so little time to listen to all the interviews,
but this one is riveting and shows a very different side as compared to what we see in Ontario.
It took me two nights to listen to the whole thing and was worth it.
The hosts basically just let him talk but ask a few thoughtful questions, and his answers are sound.
He starts at the 7:00 mark and continues to about 110:00.

Jimmer, I found this to be of the better one's I've listened to.
Southern man from Louisiana..good 'ol boy, honest (sounding) and 'matter of fact'.
It's interesting that bigfoot can be so prevalent in an area where many know about them and yet not be in mainstream 'Sas-sphere'.
I guess down there, they just keep it to themselves. I found it to be totally believable.

Listen when you have time to devote.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntFKtTBnnwI


Take care and I'll try to chime in when I can. New business is taking all of my time.

Samos

let's all give a listen to this story.
thanks, samos from all of us at BV2.
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/BVMOD4_zpsd9477cf8.jpg

[Frances]

Thank you Samos for sending your pals the link.
I enjoyed the interview, and yes it's very much a different type of being that Mike Paterson is dealing with.

Keeps my mind thinking of what M.K. Davis said about the Sasquatch not being the same as the Bigfoot.
Two different types or species.
Frances.

[jimmer]

I'm taking my time with the Bayou story.
so far, it's really impressive. the hunter seems to be authentic and shaken,
even after all the years since.

kewaunee says there are the sasquatch and the ancient ones.
are the ancient ones 'bigfoot'? if not, are sas and bigfoot the same?
are the ancient ones extraterrestrials or the 'visitors' that hang out with sas?
more to come...

nevertheless, if you haven't seen this bit a investigative
genius, here's parabreakdown's conclusive research into a sas video.

conclusion? those who smelt it, dealt it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLgBBleWNj0

[jsb_swampfox]

Thank You Samos And Jimmer for posting that interview with Mike Wooley. I too felt he was sincere and did have an experience. I wish he had given a better descpription of what the sas face looked like. He said, He looked thru the scope of his rifle and could see well enough to see its eye lashes. The other thing, he never mentions is any tracks around the tree his deer stand was leaning against. Other than that, I enjoyed it. I too am still pondering the possibilities of several sas -like species. At first this kind of just blew me away. The more I think about it the more probable it seems. I mean, we hairless humans can look very different from each other. If you put an oriental person next to an African decent person....they almost would not seem to be "related" as far as appearances go. So the fact that there may be many different sas type being is starting to make more sense to me.

[jimmer]

Thank You Samos And Jimmer for posting that interview with Mike Wooley. I too felt he was sincere and did have an experience. I wish he had given a better descpription of what the sas face looked like. He said, He looked thru the scope of his rifle and could see well enough to see its eye lashes. The other thing, he never mentions is any tracks around the tree his deer stand was leaning against. Other than that, I enjoyed it. I too am still pondering the possibilities of several sas -like species. At first this kind of just blew me away. The more I think about it the more probable it seems. I mean, we hairless humans can look very different from each other. If you put an oriental person next to an African decent person....they almost would not seem to be "related" as far as appearances go. So the fact that there may be many different sas type being is starting to make more sense to me.

I'm with you, jeff, on the different species idea.
kewaunee talks about 7 different species in
the above posted interview. that could explain
why vocalizations can and do have different
tonalities, linguistics and rhythms. as I've said,
so much for scott nelson's verdict that mike's sounds
are bogus because they don't match the sierra sounds.
many posts back, there's an audio compilation of region sas
vocalizations. big differences between regions.
I looked and couldn't find it, but I did find this previously
posted m.k. compilation. lots of variations, mimics and oddities.
some sound like the sierra sounds, some sound like mike's
recordings, some sound like something totally different. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk1Tsxg_DAw)

as for mike wooley. it's been over 30 years
and he's still cotton-mouthed and stammering
relating the events. a more subdued panic
can still be picked up as he recalls those
bizarre events.

I bet mike patterson was lucky to have the
homeowner shepherd and endorse him
into the ontario habitat family. compare this to
how mike wooley was treated as he imposed
on the local sas domain, while screwing up
their dinner. totally different greeting.
how about that deer stand pretzel...

[samos]

Jimmer, thanks for the award ! :winner: It's a pleasure to stand amongst other recipients and enthusiasts...and friends.

I'm glad you posted the interview (Mike Wooley) and thought it would be worth the listen. (I was having difficulty finding the BV2 thread). The encounter seemed easy to visualize as well as the seriousness of his situation. Imagine getting a smirking grin from a Sas who whistles to its buddy to come help 'get' you...terrifying! Later in the interview he mentions it was chomping its teeth together in aggression, comparing that to a bears behavior. I can understand his fears, for sure.... A half mile dash to your truck with angry Sasquatch closing in, outflanking you, and another one on your heels....holy moly !! Sounds as if the Sas dinner menu had just changed.

I agree with Jeff about the lack of facial description. Seems pretty important to explain, but I guess with all he went through, in his mind it didn't need explaining. He did mention that the eyes were the most frightening part....evil. Also, the deer stand wrapped around the tree is an end result that made sense. Personally, I don't think I would have ever returned. I suppose he is a pretty lucky guy.

I'm putting up a few pictures from Ontario showing copy/paste reproductions giving better views of what we are seeing. First is the possible Nephatia photo, cropped and pasted to create the whole head. Second is the controversial image which this might help bring clarity to. I have thought maybe this is Ashantia, a female in a close up 'selfie'. I pasted the mirror image at a likely distance apart which creates a blank space in the middle. Think of it as if she (it) is standing behind a small tree if that helps. Notice what i believe to be upper lip/teeth showing and an open mouth..maybe sort of a 'smile' of sorts. Also, very wide cheeks, much like the above photo (brother?). Possible small muzzle protruding?? It's all strictly 'conjecture' at this time....any thoughts?

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/Capture1_zps8b2350b4.png

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/Capture3_zpsa5c9391d.jpg

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/Capture6_zps8e6758a7.jpg

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/Untitled6_zpsb6e6e101.png


Take care all....Samos.

[Frances]

Hello Samos, that's very clever the way you have put the picture of Ashantia together it offers a better view now.
I must admit I could not get a good picture in my mind of how it was taken, ( it is a selfie for the benefit of others) now I see it.
Great job.
Frances.


Did you send it to Mike?

[jimmer]

now that you've rotated the selfie and mirrored it,
you may have something there, samos, but the 'flesh' just
doesn't look realistic to me. like mike, not sure
what to make of these selfies, but your efforts
are what we do here. nice work. effort appreciated.
the future will tell.

as for the newly minted, TOT/BV2 METAL OF DISTINCTION
award, it seems like the right way to thank those who help
carry our fascination forward.
at this stage, we've come a long way from our beginnings when credible,
fresh and worthy evidence becomes more rare and precious.
in the future, the metal's crusty visage will be bestowed to those who move this story
with new credible, fascintating or ground breaking evidence.
a high order, rarely achieved and worthy of the metal.
all those who have gotten us here (frances, jeff, samos, mojo, malc, modwiz, all)
are posthumously awarded the ideals carried forward by the metal. ; )
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/BVMOD4_SM_zps668ca659.jpg

finding BV2 (when quiet) is easy, use the search
window -- 'vocalizations.' it pops up.

down south, here is dogged researcher, bob, deep in the arkansas bayou.
some interesting vocals and how he does it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o55utkSxcng

here's his website with photos and additional audio.
for instance... (http://sasquatchsounds.com/1%20Front%20Page%20Sasquatch%20Sounds/1a%20Audio/moan/aaaahhhhh.mp3)

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/Rm_15lJ6z70

Video 23mins. Published Oct 26th 2012.

Short film at the start of this interview by Paul Freeman, which he took of a Sasquatch, looks interesting.

Interview with Prof Grover Krantz physical anthropologist who is nudging the scientific world into acceptance.
Frances.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/BVMOD4_zpsd9477cf8.jpg

[samos]

Interesting vocals, Jimmer. It's notable how a creature will be so elusive 99% of the time, but during that other 1%, they let the whole world know they're out there. 3-4 AM is an active time for them....our polar opposites...yin to our yang.

Note: The possible Ashantia selfie does have unusual skin, compared to what we might think it should look like. My original impression was camera flash washout, etc. , but another thought had occurred......what if this were a Sas doll? Perhaps a homemade craft by someone? The eyes did not have that full 3D look to them, and total lack of any facial hair (eye lashes, eyebrows, etc.) Sounds crazy, right? I did actually already do an extensive search for Sasquatch dolls, but didn't find anything like it. Take from this what you will... it's not an implication of dishonesty...just strangeness. That picture has a lot of information in it as MK would say.

I plan to go over all the selfies once again with the same scrutiny, checking orientation and color enhancements...also, I would like to re-evaluate the first Sas scribble drawing Mike received. See you all in about a month (lol)...

PS: The picture Mike has of the Sasquatch arm reaching over the snowmobiles is awesome and worthy of posting.....anyone? He says they later found a marble between the two vehicles on the ground and it likely had rolled off. I wish it was in HD. I have not given it a close examination, yet.

Samos

[jimmer]

I agree that the selfie with strange skin may be another prank or misdirection.
the doll idea seems inline with other selfies --
something held up in front of the lens.
so far, we've gotten: fish eye, rabbit eye, but
the most provocative image is that close-up of the
'sas mouth, teeth and nose.' part of a video that
mike says he mistakenly deleted. I've implored him
several times to re-instate those videos (I believe 2
have been taken down), but mike must be too busy
or something else? too close to letting the cat out of the bag?
I've done a google search for the video 'nephatia'
without any luck. you'd thing somewhere that video
would be cached, but apparently not.
not sure what the second deleted video was called...

the hairy arm image does not yield much when enhanced.
best I could do with a screen capture.
looks like a clenched fist (placing marble?)
but it's interesting that even when alone, seemingly
away from contact or prying eyes, the subject still
protects its identity, hiding.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/ScreenShot2014-03-29atMarch-29-2014942AM_rt_zpsb6d2b06c.jpg

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/ozwrnCFjxtE

Video 6mins. Uploaded 12th July 2012.
Stabilised .

M.K. Does another good breakdown of a video shot by Paul Freeman.
This short video is said to be controversial but I don't hear M.K. Saying anything about it being hoaxed.
Frances.

[jimmer]

Video 6mins. Uploaded 12th July 2012. Stabilised .

M.K. Does another good breakdown of a video shot by Paul Freeman.
This short video is said to be controversial but I don't hear M.K. Saying anything about it being hoaxed.
Frances.


what a kick. "there's your dangle, right chere."

m.k. has the eyes of a hawk. to think it was a momma sas with her young one.

he must be the first to analyze the end of that shaky video to find that.

we'd all give him the metal if he'd ever join in the conversation.
although, yesterday he was contacted by two groups: one for a major documentary,
another for a radio interview, so, I guess he's a wee bit busy.
as he should be. what a resource.

[jimmer]

I thought about revisiting our audio researcher/hunter, cxd4
http://jandeane81.com/threads/317-Bigfoot-Vocalizations-2?p=14717&viewfull=1#post14717

what do you know, evidently the 'shooting bigfoot' film was pirated and posted on YT, since removed.
but cxd4 did some captures and posted the 'good' parts. the parts that dyer said would prove bigfoot's existence.

are we convinced?
(review this quickly, as this too may be banished from YT.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9AKdHO3XIc

[Frances]

That is a find and a half Jimmer.
The face is of a human man. That is murder.
Could this video be the real thing?

Now it's out, there will be much speculation about its reality.
Heartbreaking if true and so ruthless.
Frances.

[Frances]

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/36b82af05cc373248627da7f2ecd22bc_zps21b33dfe.jpg[/IMG]http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/c9a1b2a29039a4e5a0b9622228516b41_zps73a01117.jpg

That is a human face, the light is reflecting off the forehead where there is no hair.
Frances.

[jimmer]

That is a find and a half Jimmer.
The face is of a human man. That is murder.
Could this video be the real thing?

Now it's out, there will be much speculation about its reality.
Heartbreaking if true and so ruthless.
Frances.

this is a test.

which rick dyer sasquatch image does't belong with the others?*

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/dyercompare_sm_zpse9e68cd6.jpg

* if you said the right image, that the 'real' sas that's all over the internet and currently
on-tour with dyer. just a cheap sculpt job, bad matted hair and quite different from the other sas images.

btw: samos will be posting his analysis of one of the more enigmatic selfie images from mike's field research.
keep your eye out for it. very provative...

[samos]

The following is a PM I sent to Jimmer during the night, which I wanted to brief him about some discoveries I may have found in one of Mike's photos from Sasquatch Ontario. Jimmer, is excellent at the helm and being the diligent captain he is, thought it worthy of the forum for discussion. I am a little concerned about putting my observational reputation on the line, but here goes.....


I'd like to preface by saying that I try to be rational and analytical, and hopefully use a critical eye when exploring evidence presented to us. I don't see a Sas behind every tree and most often rule out 'blobsquatch' photos due to an inability to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

That being said...I started revisiting the selfie photos on Mikes vids. They all have a uniqueness to them and so I started copying and trying all sorts of enhancements to gain a better perspective. (You are right that the missing videos which he pulled had some remarkable selfies. I wish I had saved them way back then). So, I decided to take another look at the controversial 'ear' photo with the wood paneling in the frame. I really wanted to get down close to the paneling portion of the photo and use a few MK Davis tactics (I use ACDsee Photo manager). Well, I do see some strange things at the bottom..there is a chair in the opening and the view of the lower leg of that chair is obstructed by something else. I wasn't getting any answers so I started looking around the rest of the picture which revealed that I could see paneling through other parts of the 'hair' as well. This showed me that it was not a solid object (or body) in front of the camera. And what about that ear? Strange looking...unless it is an elf or a Vulcan I just didn't see it being an ear. What I did start to see it as, was a thumb...a thumb with a long fingernail, pink in color. In fact it looked as if it was possibly holding something in its hand (although only the thumb is visible). Close examination and several color/hue adjustments along with sharpening image revealed something, that if true, is shocking to me.

It appears that it is a picture of a Sasquatch hand cradling an infant, and that infant is sort of 'lost in the folds' of long hair which surround it. If this is indeed what I am seeing, this would likely be the newborn Mike believes they were trying to convey to him. I'm attaching a few pictures for you to see, but let me explain a few things, first.

The hand seems to be cradling the head (just as any human would), the infant has grey skin and only the right side of face is visible (its left side). I see a single eye, nose and mouth (possible cleft lip?), and general shape of the head, maybe even a small ear (ironic). Also looking further to the right in the photo it looks like the infants elbow and forearm facing up (although it is more tan-ish color)...the hand is blurred into the many strands of hair, but looks to be open palmed. The arm is good and stout as you might expect Sas babies to have.

I know this is a wild assumption and much to digest. I have looked at it through a lot of saturations so far and am not sure I could ever prove it. Now I see it immediately each time I look..even from the original. I even shut down PC for a while and came back..yep, still there. It's either awesome pareidolia or the most remarkable breakthrough I've seen. A Sasquatch baby, under our very noses! This is actually much more visible than some of his other posted images of Sas.

Take your time....explore the possibility.

Pal, Samos

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/Cap_zpsa4f4c542.jpg

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/baby2_zpsa526ce63.jpg

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/baby2_zps796d59ca.jpg

This one may need to be enlarged for the breakdown.
http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/baby5_zpsbc49739b.jpg

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/baby1_zps6416463b.jpg

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I don't have all the answers and i'm not saying it's easy to see...there's a lot of hair everywhere, disorienting the picture. Also, several other things in this picture I'd like to discuss, but I won't get too far ahead just yet.

It is striking that the thumb and (possible) infant are 'thumb strikingly' human looking.

[IMG]http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/BVMOD4_SM_zps668ca659.jpg

[samos]

couldn't get that last picture to post....try again

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/baby3_zpsfb226df9.jpg

[jimmer]

my big take away is that mike's idea of an 'ear' is actually
a thumb, I think you are right, samos.
so why is the thumb visible?
if we play on the idea that these selfies (for the most part) are objects
displayed in front of the camera, then we can see something
quite different in this furry image. it does appear to be a hand
cradling, displaying something. a baby sas?
would it be worth sending mike this posts link for his reaction?
does he have some further context to add?

[jimmer]

now for something completely different:

from 'project sasquatch' (a facebook page) comes
anonymous posting of these illustrations.

are these accurate depictions of the sasquatch people?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Dizt-IoYk4E/UjOfcpzpg3I/AAAAAAAC7kE/4N6Dk2lU4nQ/s400/1002557_498341766927163_778311264_n.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YmUx2IibIGw/UjOelCPXwnI/AAAAAAAC7j4/ek_LbNWOhIg/s1600/998965_498524763575530_180222878_n+1.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uqJNN9EiLFM/UjOfcsTgRcI/AAAAAAAC7kA/0zIQpZVlSGg/s400/1186128_496774303750576_273692312_n.jpg

[samos]

my big take away is that mike's idea of an 'ear' is actually
a thumb, I think you are right, samos.
so why is the thumb visible?
if we play on the idea that these selfies (for the most part) are objects
displayed in front of the camera, then we can see something
quite different in this furry image. it does appear to be a hand
cradling, displaying something. a baby sas?
would it be worth sending mike this posts link for his reaction?
does he have some further context to add?

Well, clearly Mike will say it is all subjective...however, I think he would love to hear our take on this. This could be a big piece of the puzzle from that unusual photo. There's been much speculation over the months since its post. This picture could be analyzed top to bottom, like 'MK on Patty'...Keep in mind, his photo copy probably has much more definition and clarity than what You Tube produces.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/2Lfwux7W8QM

Published Mar 30th 2014.
Video 12mins.

Sasquatch feeding from buckets at feeding stations.
Vocalisations.
Frances

[Frances]

That is a great breakdown of the thumb photographs you have done Samos.

My first thought was, its a ladies thumb/hand holding the baby Sasquatch.
It would make sense that the photograph was taken inside a cottage now. They have been befriended by the cottage residents who live around the area where Mike is doing his research.

Mike has always said that there is a lot of human/Sasquatch contact around the area but it's kept secret and confidential.
Making more sense now that you have done the breakdown Samos.
Frances.

[samos]

It's a surprising find, Frances. I didn't expect to find that when I started looking. I am thinking along the same lines as you...possibly humans, or Sas. Not sure, but hopefully more will be revealed. There is a lot in that photo to be discovered, waiting to be found. Great fun !!

PS: I wouldn't give the Dyer stuff much thought and zero credibility...on all accounts.

[jimmer]

That is a great breakdown of the thumb photographs you have done Samos.

My first thought was, its a ladies thumb/hand holding the baby Sasquatch.
It would make sense that the photograph was taken inside a cottage now. They have been befriended by the cottage residents who live around the area where Mike is doing his research.

Mike has always said that there is a lot of human/Sasquatch contact around the area but it's kept secret and confidential.
Making more sense now that you have done the breakdown Samos.
Frances.

oh, that may explain the 'pinkishness' of that thumb.
didn't occur to me. you may be on to something.
if human, who that heck would participate in taking that photo?

I've PMed mike on samos' find. let's see if he has an option...

[jimmer]

It's a surprising find, Frances. I didn't expect to find that when I started looking. I am thinking along the same lines as you...possibly humans, or Sas. Not sure, but hopefully more will be revealed. There is a lot in that photo to be discovered, waiting to be found. Great fun !!

PS: I wouldn't give the Dyer stuff much thought and zero credibility...on all accounts.

I'm with you, dyer is a dip.
but I posted all of that, especially the sas comparison
photos to illustrate the hubris that he has towards his 'fans.'
the 'for pay' here's bigfoot tour he's on is clearly based
on exploiting the curious and gullible among us.

[samos]

Maybe that photo was taken (without participation) from the line of view as seen from a Mother's eyes...unbeknownst to her??? Crazy, huh? Dimensional stuff is hard to comprehend. This same tactic could be used to covertly photograph a rabbit eye at close range.

Very scary thought to consider if this is actually a woman with newborn child, and their space being occupied so closely. Dangerous situation. I prefer to think they are Sas.

PS: There is no absolute proof of a baby in the picture. It looks to be, but I've been wrong before. The thumb, I am pretty convinced of, though. There is further evidence buried beneath....I thank you for your time (hah)

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/Gae6HmHyp_A

Published Nov 28th 2013.
Video 6mins.

Images and vocalisations of a family unit who visit Mitch's trailer.
I love the joy and pleasure in Mitch's eyes as he wispers about them
Frances.

[samos]

Oh Frances, that's 'Mitch' Waite. I like him very much. He just recently wrecked the Sas-Mobile into an elk at 60 MPH grinding his research to a screeching halt. His co-researcher (Mark?) is writing several comments to Mike's site and never gets a response. They have captured new screams he wanted to share with Mike.
Mitch Waite is as honest as you could ask for...he actually showed how useful the copy/paste technique to get better impressions from some of his pics. A ways back, he did get a good trail cam photo of a young Sas with a bloody nose. He thinks it banged it's nose directly on the camera, while climbing up in the tree.

I'm happy you follow his work...(SusanFarns You Tube channel)

[jimmer]

Published Nov 28th 2013. Video 6mins.

Images and vocalisations of a family unit who visit Mitch's trailer.
I love the joy and pleasure in Mitch's eyes as he wispers about them
Frances.

look at mitch's face. it's +3 in the morning and
he's having the time of his life. another visit.
(sorry to hear about his accident)
and all those sensor beeps?
could the sas be tweaking him, being the jokesters they are?
could they know about the sensor and mike's sensitivity to it's signals?

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/ScreenShot2014-03-30atMarch-30-20141219PM_zps050fc1cf.jpg

[jimmer]

what a heck of a day this has been
at BV2 and it started off so innocently,
with a cup of coffee : )

mike has reviewed samos' investigation
and has replied:

Re:Is that a thumb?
I took a look and I really can't make heads or tails of it.
I don't see the shape of a thumb. I'm still thinking ear but I don't know.
Bottom line is I have no idea and I don't like to conclude unless I know the answer.
Do they walk invisible? 100% yes because I've experienced their invisibility at a level of
direct physical contact (even putting a possible hand over the front of my face).

Could they be putting other things in front of the lens? Of course they could. Do they? I don't know.
Take for instance the white haired blue eye. That I don't think is anything inanimate as there's differences
showing in the eyelash in different pics. We also have the same white hair showing completely black eyes.
Just taking a quick glance through the pics also shows a white hair again with green eyes.
Those ones haven't been posted but will at some point in a future vid.
For all I know they could have other species with them that aren't even documented. I don't know.

There's also a pic of the white hair with orange eyes, tear duct showing.
There's differences showing in pupil size as well. It's all an enigma.

I see people claiming fish eyes, owl eyes, etc. Those are all speculation.
I've not seen anyone post anything that is an exact match. The "fish eyes" have a red ring that bleeds through
that I haven't seen duplicated. Owls don't have tear ducts, etc. There's many out there who are quick to conclude
without really having the qualifications to make an educated conclusion, no proper credentials.
I personally don't conclude anything except the fact that the sasquatch have taken the said photos with the cameras.
We're now putting time stamps on all the shots (on my camera where that option is there) and have seen photos
that were only a couple minutes or so old taken while we stepped away and came right back.

This is how they operate. Always playing with us, messing around, always leaving sign, etc. They're having fun as we are.

my (our) reply
well, mike, we at TOT (the one truth) are a rag tag collection of enthusiasts and m.k. davis inspired sleuths.
so forgive us our speculations and digging for answers. our blog thread started with your may 2013 breakthrough vocalizations
and we've been following your exploits ever since, so our journey, like yours, although well insulated, has been a real education.
I do understand and respect you're lack of speculation as to the hints, jests and clues dropped by your inquisitive friends.
that's something we all regard in your quest, unlike many sas researcher 'know-it-alls.'
so, I guess we'll continue our pursuits as will you. and thanks for being unshakable in your genuine,
real guy demeanor, as amazed as we are as to what you are exploring. it is a roller coaster of one heck of an experience.

thanks from all of us for the bumpy ride : ) jimmer

Re:Is that a thumb?
I just read a few of the posts. Who's the person (Mark?) who wanted me to hear some screams?
I try to answer everyone who's respectable in their posts. It's difficult to stay on top of things since the
youtube/google plus implementation. It's just terrible. It was just fine prior to.
I would see new subscribers (which I see none of now) and I'd have all the posts in order and easy to organize.
Now it's a mess.

If you have the info, I'd like to listen to the audio, thanks.

my (our) reply
I will pass that on, mike.

there are some many enthusiasts that would give a finger to be into what you are experiencing.
so many would love to be involved, now that you've found an opening.
so, I bet you get many who get disgruntled when you decided to keep it close to your vest.
it's not a grumpiness towards you personally. it's just that burning desire to 'know.'

as far as Mark's vocalization that he'd like to share,
I'll pass on your willingness/desire to listen to the recording and will suggest PMing you will a link or file.

rock on. jimmer

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/eyecompare_sm_zps6ca9f0be.jpg

[samos]

Here is Mark (Co-researcher) of Mitch Waite's team. I've seen him comment a few times at Sasquatch Ontario, recently eager to share his vocals they captured. Mark moved to Arizona to start working with Mitch about 6 months ago and has had a 'hands-on' learning experience every since. I know he would like to see them upgrade their equipment, but sometimes, paying out of pocket, you just have to work with what you have.

Mark has a hell of a Sasquatch calling whistle...check your speakers (lol)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rvwm-oWI4Q&feature=share&list=UUZ4oW0iFCCkXZlz8BE5AE7A&index=8



Marks most recent comment to Mike..
mark larson
1 week ago

I research in Arizona with mitch.Susan farms. Do you knowledge him.we had some.good screams last week and are post them now.more than one animals. But his equipment is old too much white noise. See what you think


Well, jimmer, it was a great effort trying to show this to Mike. Not a total surprise. I don't see an ear, sorry. I am going to continue searching for clues. As tiresome as MK's findings are from Patty....so will be 'ol Samos, inspired and persistent. Who knows what may turn up?

Carry on, Crew .....

Yes, great day !!

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[jimmer]

samos,
I'd pass on mike's desire to review mark and mitch's video.
ask mark to go to mike's YT site and click 'send message' and PM him with the link.
mike wants to make right for him missed mark's original offer.
mark should follow through and make that connection.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MANASOOCAN/about

btw: what's the story behind their sas site being called, susanfarns?
a tribute?

[samos]

Yes, I have PM'd Mark twice in the past, but no answer. Not sure if he understands how to find personal messages. It can be tricky. Mitch has written back, though, and is very friendly. I once condemned his fellow researchers for stomping all around the place, making too much noise and disturbing evidence. His reply..."you are right, they are my grandchildren"....ughhhh! he followed up with "they need to start learning somewhere...and from someone who can teach them". I wrote back my best heartfelt apologies. Great guy.

I'll send the link to mark.

[jimmer]

Yes, I have PM'd Mark twice in the past, but no answer. Not sure if he understands how to find personal messages. It can be tricky. Mitch has written back, though, and is very friendly. I once condemned his fellow researchers for stomping all around the place, making too much noise and disturbing evidence. His reply..."you are right, they are my grandchildren"....ughhhh! he followed up with "they need to start learning somewhere...and from someone who can teach them". I wrote back my best heartfelt apologies. Great guy.

I'll send the link to mark.

maybe mitch can get the ball rolling?
talk to all tomorrow...

[jsb_swampfox]

Jimmer you represent us all well to mike. Thank you again for your diligence on this subject. Samos, Fances....You guys are awesome too. I am so glad to be a part of this.

[jimmer]

here's a thanks from mike:

Date: 03/31/14
Message:
It's good that you guys keep it clean of trolls over there.
This subject is riddled with animosity and a long list of negative traits that don't need spelled out.

It's been a difficult 18 months but the sasquatch family we're dealing with have been extremely generous in giving us much backup.
There's others with the same sort of situations who are well aware of real sasquatch activity and the strangeness that comes with it.
Organizations like the BFRO who've always been ape theorists will now fall behind as their persistent denial of the truth leaves them scratching their heads.
This truth can only be suppressed for so long.
The time has come for the sasquatch people to be understood through situations like this and others coming forward and speaking out.

I try my best to keep my wording proper to as not to make any claims unless I'm solidified in my conclusions.
All the selfies are subjective.
I have no idea what they are.
They're very good at keeping us from seeing too much.

I hope this continues and we're given more insight as we progress.
Thanks to everyone for the support.

Mike

reply

the nice thing about our gang is that we come here to TOT to explore, not deplore.
the latter would be a waste of our time (except for the dyer-thing, that is. charlatans get us rankled).
and I might say, we are all thrilled to have you visit.
please drop by anytime. if you have the inclination, we'd be honored to have you as a TOT member.
if you're ever interested, please PM our industrious founder malc @ with a request for membership.
being with likeminded friends is a good way to go.

http://jandeane81.com/members/1-Malc

I'll be sure to pass your thanks on to the BV2 crew.

jimmer

[Frances]

Great post from Mike and you Jimmer, allways you can tell who genuine people are.
We enjoy the physical aspect of the Sasquatch but we also enjoy the magic of it all and the education.
Hope lots of young people read this thread it's those young people who we need to not let this subject get buried.
Frances.

[jimmer]

as for arizona researcher mitch waite's vehicle accident, here's his post
that addresses the accusation from some YT trolls that he
hoaxing the accident for personal gain.
this is unbelievable.
read why mitch is the man, a very lucky man.

Published on Mar 26, 2014
Thank you to all that expressed a desire to help and donate to get me back into the forest.
You are all good people in whom I am proud to work with.
However, many trolls and skeptics have taken up the cause of trying to ruin my credibility by saying the accident was faked,
I am a fraud like the person who put the monkey suit in the freezer, and I am trying to cash in on your giving hearts.
So to prove this is not the case, I have reposted the video and I will be refunding any and all donations I have received.
It is more important to have my integrity than the donations, because I will still continue on (at a limited speed) and
I do not wish to have my name in the mud. Thank you again for all those who have stuck by me.

I had to take a day out away from the situation and rethink everything.
When I came back, I find so many comments about not letting the trolls get the upper hand, and
that I should accept the donations thus giving the donors the opportunity to pay it forward.
And, I never realized how many people who really do Bigfoot Research with me--not just watching the videos,
but finding faces, suggesting experiments, or tactics, etc. I love it! It is interesting how the trolls acquise me of
only posting the good stuff, and that I must be a fraud to get than many great comments and reviews.
I smile when I hear these comments, because it simply isn't true.
Yes, I do not approve any profane, belittling, demeaning, or degrading comments.
I want to keep this channel open to our younger viewers.
I will approve opposing views and opinions if stated professionally,
but the trolls can't seem to handle the requirment. At any rate, I only have to disapprove about 3% of the comments due to the policy.
That is 97% of you post such comments as below. That tells me I must be doing something right! I will continue to research the Bigfoot.
And I want to make an offer to any person that has donated.
If any of you would like a refund, please let me know, and I will sent it back with no questions asked or hard feelings.
I would completely understand. Thank you all for helping me work through this incident.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDeCwQ0Gx5E&list=UUZ4oW0iFCCkXZlz8BE5AE7A

[jimmer]

what I'm listening to now.
the introduction reel is a mind bender.
so well produced and sophisticated.
our field is coming of age.
mike should be interviewed by these guys.
I've PMed them without reply, yet.
they do seem dubious about the sasquatch 'people' concept.
so maybe that's a non-started.

nonetheless, let's see what the bigfoothotspotradio crew has for us...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGl-_G2E5qw

[jimmer]

so, this bigfoot hotspot radio episode
not only relates some incredible habitution
events/attacks, it also presents the theory
that a species of bigfoot may be the
product of the mating of neanderthals with
humans. hmm.
could this be that 'bigfoot and sasquatch are different' theory?
one species is a flesh and blood predator/ancestor, the other -- mystical, inter-dimensional?

here's the video whose audio is played on the show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbmywzGAVs&feature=youtu.be

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/1ehf9BJQdA0

Published Mar 31st 2014.
Video 5mins showing a juvenile Sasquatch"
Frances.

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/we8rm-2RvGI

Published Mar 31st 2014.
Video 3 mins. Short Audio.
Frances.

[jimmer]

Published Mar 31st 2014.
Video 3 mins. Short Audio.
Frances.

it's interesting why all these m.k. videos
are showing up on this new 'bigfoot project'
YT site. the old 'bigfoot central' site received
lots of copyright infringement claims and was
partially shutdown, thus the new site seeking
new material, like m.k.'s trove of research.
m.k. is very gracious guy.

[samos]

Hi Frances, I've 'thumbed' through those MK videos before and always liked the camera/toy vocals. Seemed authentic to me and familiar sounding.
Still looking into that photo of Mike's....interesting stuff. Here's a little observation I found, Frances, from looking through many images on the internet about primates...I could not find a single image of a primate cradling a newborn's head no matter what search words I used. Of all the hundreds of pictures, they were holding them from their backs, legs, arms, etc...doesn't seem to be instinctual to carry them in that way.

Jimmer, the Bigfoothotspotradio crew does have some great shows. After you first posted them a couple weeks ago, I listened to all of them. Bill Lee had mentioned an interview with a hunter who spotted Sasquatch and decided to follow it as it retreated up a hill. It appears the Sas was leading him to a trap when he spotted another Sas quickly dodging behind a fallen log up ahead....any news on where this story could be found? By the way, isn't this the same Bill Lee who interviewed Mike? Twice? Maybe i'm wrong..:scrhd:

Jimmer...SusanFarns is Mitch Waits, wife's name...she has authored a book of Arizona Sasquatch encounters.."Mogollon Monster"

Samos

Glad to see you back, JSB

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/j0LpMIIGdxY

Published Mar 31st 2014.
Video 5mins.

Two Bigfoot audio tapes a thousand miles apart. M.K. Picks out the similarities between the two.
Frances.

[jimmer]

Hi Frances, I've 'thumbed' through those MK videos before and always liked the camera/toy vocals. Seemed authentic to me and familiar sounding.
Still looking into that photo of Mike's....interesting stuff. Here's a little observation I found, Frances, from looking through many images on the internet about primates...I could not find a single image of a primate cradling a newborn's head no matter what search words I used. Of all the hundreds of pictures, they were holding them from their backs, legs, arms, etc...doesn't seem to be instinctual to carry them in that way.

Jimmer, the Bigfoothotspotradio crew does have some great shows. After you first posted them a couple weeks ago, I listened to all of them. Bill Lee had mentioned an interview with a hunter who spotted Sasquatch and decided to follow it as it retreated up a hill. It appears the Sas was leading him to a trap when he spotted another Sas quickly dodging behind a fallen log up ahead....any news on where this story could be found? By the way, isn't this the same Bill Lee who interviewed Mike? Twice? Maybe i'm wrong..:scrhd:

Jimmer...SusanFarns is Mitch Waits, wife's name...she has authored a book of Arizona Sasquatch encounters.."Mogollon Monster"

Samos

Glad to see you back, JSB

I'm up to eleven.
in this show it becomes apparent they are in
the 'bigfoot is some sort of ape' camp, although
their stories are really doozies and they seem
to be credible and hardened. what do you think
about the theory that bigfoot and sas are two different breeds?
if bigfoot is descendant of a neandrerthal/human mating , then what does that make sas?
mike is having a totally different experience from some of these poor folks
that get scared to death.

what do you know, think about that?
the bigfoot hotspot crew say that bigfoot is intelligent, but bordering on being 'mental.'
a vastly different take from mike's. two different breeds?

I would imagine it's the same bill lee. he gets around.

'susanfarns' is not a great YT search term, but I imagine they get plenty of
traffic and views. the term means something to them.
at first I thought mitch's name was susan : /

[jimmer]

Published Mar 31st 2014.
Video 5mins.

Two Bigfoot audio tapes a thousand miles apart. M.K. Picks out the similarities between the two.
Frances.

you found it frances!
and I could have sworn the vocals sounded regionally distinct, but I remembered wrong.
not much difference between the north and south dialects.

pretty spooky stuff, nonetheless.

[Tonz]

just throwing this in, its a bit to glossy for me but every doco has a few interesting bits to add , hope you's dont mind it placed in this thread. if not relocate please mods,dont mean to stray off the subject at hand.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxMo7zx49fo

[jimmer]

just throwing this in, its a bit to glossy for me but every doco has a few interesting bits to add , hope you's dont mind it placed in this thread. if not relocate please mods,dont mean to stray off the subject at hand.

pantogonia = land of the big feet.

looks interesting. let's see.
thanks, tonton.

[jsb_swampfox]

so, this bigfoot hotspot radio episode
not only relates some incredible habitution
events/attacks, it also presents the theory
that a species of bigfoot may be the
product of the mating of neanderthals with
humans. hmm.
could this be that 'bigfoot and sasquatch are different' theory?
one species is a flesh and blood predator/ancestor, the other -- mystical, inter-dimensional?

here's the video whose audio is played on the show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbmywzGAVs&feature=youtu.be

This was interesting Jimmer. This guys theory that Neanderthal man looked much different than depicted in mainstream science reminded me of Lloyd Pye's theory that Neanderthal man is Bigfoot. He basically came to the same conclusion as this guy based on actual mechanics of the the fossil records. Lloyd makes the same point of the size of Neanderthal would make him far superior in strength that modern Human. I personally am on the fence as far as this guys reconstruction of Neanderthal. He was, however, definitely leaning more towards primate. Thanks Jeff

[jimmer]

This was interesting Jimmer. This guys theory that Neanderthal man looked much different than depicted in mainstream science reminded me of Lloyd Pye's theory that Neanderthal man is Bigfoot. He basically came to the same conclusion as this guy based on actual mechanics of the the fossil records. Lloyd makes the same point of the size of Neanderthal would make him far superior in strength that modern Human. I personally am on the fence as far as this guys reconstruction of Neanderthal. He was, however, definitely leaning more towards primate. Thanks Jeff

m.k. says that 'bigfoot' and 'sasquatch' are different, not sure if
it's a species difference or an 'origin' difference.
now we hear that neanderthal may have bred with humans
to create a unique species, possibly bigfoot.

what we need is some clarification from a trusted source.
if only m.k. would respond. wonder if he'd do a video on
this topic? I'll ask him (not holding breath).

jeff, I'm going to watch lloyd's video again.
we could be onto something...

[jimmer]

I just finished lloyd pye's presentation
of the evolution of what we thought was our ancestry
and that everything we've been taught is wrong and
even more damning, a lie.
you may have already seen this, but in our burgeoning
BV2 context, it's well worth another view.
what is bigfoot? who are we?
his concluding argument fits perfectly,
as he would soon acquire the starchild skull.
incredible.
good thinking, jeff.

if lloyd is right, the next question would have to be -- who the heck is mike dealing with?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8&list=WLB95720D91DB05A50&index=3

[jsb_swampfox]

I am with ya jimmer

[jimmer]

file this under, post 'em when you find 'em.

http://whofortedblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/261731_246862608659469_5422338_n.jpg

frances, I went back and could not find your original post on the mt. st. helen, ape canyon cabin incident.
this is a photo reenactment of that, way back when.

went back again and found : /

the miner who related the story,The Attack. The Apemen Of Mount St Helens, North America, fred beck, is the guy on the left.

http://jandeane81.com/threads/317-Bigfoot-Vocalizations-2?p=14680&viewfull=1#post14680

[Frances]

http://www.pinellaspascoparanormal.com/floridabigfoot.htm

Very interesting link talking about The Everglades Creature. Ochope Skunk Ape.
Not the same species as the Florida Bigfoot.

This link is worth the read, it's said it may have a green glow due to picking up algae as it wades through the rivers.

Lots of information in this link.
Frances

[samos]

Hi Frances..

Pinellas County is where I live :) Last week, I spoke to someone whose wife had a 'class B' sighting in Pasco County, Fl. Skunk Apes do not seem too friendly...you'd be crazy to go look for them in these dangerous swamp areas. Too many critters....

Mitch Wait says he always carries a side arm. People have asked him why? He says there are three things he fears worse than a Sasquatch...Mountain Lions, Bears and Man.


If anyone is interested, here is the link to Jaime Avalos and his website (Sierra Sasquatch). It's very easy to navigate and not too time consuming. I found him about a year ago and truly 'dig' his approach. He is an avid sasquatch tracker...literally, and is on the 'path' (pardon the pun). Someone I think you would enjoy reading about and his experiences. Also, he has a you tube channel called the same, but I suggest this web site first.

http://www.sierrasasquatch.com/index.html

[jimmer]

http://www.pinellaspascoparanormal.com/floridabigfoot.htm

Very interesting link talking about The Everglades Creature. Ochope Skunk Ape.
Not the same species as the Florida Bigfoot.

This link is worth the read, it's said it may have a green glow due to picking up algae as it wades through the rivers.

Lots of information in this link.
Frances

I was checking out the site, listening to ghost EVPs when my computer OS bombed, blank screen and
the OS started up again asking for my password. spooky and thank goodness I didn't lose any work.

not that I think there's any connection to the site, but I'm outta there...

[Tonz]

http://www.yowiehunters.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1530&Itemid=165

The above address is one that i feel may be of interest,From Dean Harisons Australian Yowie Research web page , here in Aus there are reports with history ,documentation , few photos and quite a few vidios from witnesses ,and quite a large amount of documented sighting from each state ,a forum ect a web page that tries to put all the info in one place about the Sasquatch/yeti but here we call them yowie.


http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/BVMOD4_SM_zps668ca659.jpg

[jimmer]

ok, this interview looks to be a good one.

playing off the 'Human Mutilation Cover-Up' thread (what a mind bender),
WhiteFeather posted an episode of Whitley Strieber's DreamLand, with Linda Moulton Howe,
towards the end discusses the ET/Sasquatch connection (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoxXufJpNWQ), but no detail.
with a YT search I found this DreamLand show on sas dna findings leading to a breakthrough
understanding of the sas people origins. could this be the neanderthal connect? or nephilim? or both.

listening now, but I thought I'd get this into the mix to see what you have to say.
just finished. mind officially blown.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5B1d2kgKOs

[jimmer]

after listening to the above theorizing on sas origins,
I looked around and found lots of references to the nephilim and the bible.

here's senior bigfoot researcher ron moorehead's theory,
40 years in the making.

Posted on June 3, 2013 by Ron Morehead

Many know that I began my Bigfoot studies in 1971 after encountering these beings and recording their vocalizations. My questions were, “Where do giants come from, how do these huge creatures do what they do, and why are they so elusive? So, I read many books relating to the subject. This Nephilim theory has its base on a compilation of, but not limited to, the Bible (several versions, i.e., the ancient text, Hebrew, Greek), The Book of Enoch, The Book of Giants, and my first book into quantum physics, Quantum Enigma. Beside North America, my research has taken me to the Yucatan, Russia, Siberia, Nepal, and more recently into South America. Peru is where I witnessed enigmatic archeological structures and non-human remains which cemented the Nephilim theory to me. But, is Bigfoot a remnant of the Nephilim? That’s the question.

Bigfoots are self-aware, cognizant, sentient beings with language. In our culture humans are the only ones who are supposed to have those attributes. However, the Bible tells us that corrupt angelic beings mingled with human women and this act made hybrids that were giants, men of renown…the Nephilim (Gen 6:4). Giants returned on the scene in Numbers 13:33, after the flood. The same Hebrew word for giants in Genesis is also used in Numbers and it translates to ‘Nephilim’, i.e., the Fallen Ones.

Bigfoot is a giant with very unusual and misunderstood abilities. And, there also seems to be an inter-dimensional aspect to these beings. What’s in their DNA that allows this? From recent scientific analysis it seems human DNA is responsible for 100 percent of the maternal side of these entities, but the nuclear side (father) has yet to be assigned to any known species. As in the past, has human DNA been manipulated again by celestial beings for a specific purpose? How can classical science approach this subject and stay within its boundaries and disciplines? It can’t, but maybe science, theology and philosophy can get together using a common sense approach. Is there a type of science that could possibly answer some of these questions? Yes, it’s “Quantum Physics,” a subset of quantum mechanics and way too complicated to explain in this article. In short, however, the math of quantum physics dictates that the electrons circling the nucleus of an atom can change with observation. This, many believe, is also the science behind biblical miracles (Heb 11:1).

Bigfoot has an inherit ability to use quantum facets in the macro-world that we live in. They seem to only interact with certain people on certain levels, why? Could those people have a common spiritual makeup, or maybe a mutual brain-wave function that allows this? And, can Bigfoot manipulate or ‘entangle’ with that wave, initiating acceptable scenarios to the unwary person. Could they be manipulating some of us for something devious? Or, as in the days of Enoch, could these unusual beings want us Christians to plead for their soul (1 Enoch, Chapter 15). Bigfoot is mostly reclusive, yet they seem to communicate with some folks on a paranormal level and give those people a befriending-type feeling. If their motive is actually good, why don’t they just come out in the open with all us tree-hugging bigfooters and get it over with?

So, I make a simple suggestion, “Bigfooters, keep your guard up.” The statement is not meant to cause paranoia, start an internet sparring match, or throw other theories off the cliff. It is stated because my studies have lead me to think that these creatures could very well be a diluted remnant of the Nephilim. And, I think it’s possible that ‘they may not even know it’. But what if they do and are trying to deceive the elect for a purpose yet to be known? It would be shameful and indefensible if I was called upon on the Day of Judgment to tell why I didn’t say something about what I was lead to after over 40-years of research.

if you want more, check out this paralleling theory. (http://bigfoottheory.wordpress.com/2012/05/15/hello-world/)
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bigfoot-sketch-ii/396966-1-eng-US/Bigfoot-Sketch-II_photo_medium.jpg

[samos]

Good post jimmer. I did not know Ron Moorehead was thinking along these lines.
I have found all the similarities align quite well...the problem many people have, is that with this truth there are certain other truths they are not willing to face.

Gilgamesh and Endiku is a great story. Jacob and Esau is another...Esau's descendants (Edom) were Nephilim, as recorded Biblically.

Is Sasquatch dangerous?? Absolutely...not sure if this thread wants (or should) go into this discussion, as it offends many, and inevitably it comes down to faith...and fact. It should be more of a personal quest. It is nice to see Ron, staunch in his belief. I do respect his first hand experience...who doesn't, though?

[jimmer]

Is Sasquatch dangerous?? Absolutely...not sure if this thread wants (or should) go into this discussion, as it offends many, and inevitably it comes down to faith...and fact. It should be more of a personal quest. It is nice to see Ron, staunch in his belief. I do respect his first hand experience...who doesn't, though?

yo bro,
about the dangerousness of sas, the second 'theory' link gets into that better than ron's.
I would have played it up more, but it's anonymous, at least I couldn't find the author's name.
he sees 4 different origins or species. kewaunee says 7 -- some good, some not so good.
if true, that might help to explain the 'mystic companion v. savage beast' thing we're running into.
I'm absolutely floating through this leap of faith we're into : /
the 'it's an animal, stupid' theory only goes so far and can't explain many of the class A experiences we
have and are learned about. dangerous? the answer looks like, maybe, maybe not. depends on your circumstance.
in mike's case, I believe he is in the sas-cradle due to the homeowner's previous relationship with the family.
without that kind of bona fides, let the researcher beware. do you feel lucky, huh?

[jimmer]

BV2ers, france is out-of-the-loop due to internet problems.
she's down and out, using her smartphone to keep up-to-date.
hopefully, she will back soon and contributing once again
as only she can. we miss you.

[jimmer]

while we're catching our collective breaths,
here's an interview with mitch wait talking about his research experiences,
including how he became a sas tracker, his castings, sas scat and all.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6V_I3iyU80

[jimmer]

to add to our weekend sas viewing,
ancient aliens -- aliens and bigfoot.

I stopped watching this show a year or so ago,
but who knows, there may be some useful information,
although that guy with the big, crazy hair chimes in, so I don't know. ; )

you can click through to view this larger.


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1bgx96_ancient-aliens-aliens-and-bigfoot-alien-ufo-paranormal-documentary_tv

[samos]

It's nice to see you posting some of Major Mitch Waite's research. Wouldn't you love to hear some of his NORAD stories? I'm sure he could tell you a few things around the campfire.

Unique gifting from his local clans. Spanish moss, black walnuts, rocks and pinecones...and how about that Spooky Valley map, laid out by Sasquatch? "Eat your heart out, Ontario ! "

Incidentally, black walnuts can be dropped in a stream (bushels), and it will affect the fish population, making them rise to the surface. It was a practice used by American Indians in the Midwest. Now, this netting method is banned. Maybe Sas still know a few old tricks...

Both previous posts were enjoyable and informative, jimmer....thanks.

[jimmer]

hi samos,

I still need to watch both completely, so
thanks for thumbs-up review.

I spent well over 2 hours working on
creating postable audio files, only to find
that the file sharing service (zipshare.com)
that was recommended by malc is PC friendly
only. I won't bore you with what I had to go
through, only to find out all my efforts were
in vain. what kick in the gut, clock.
I golf today...

[samos]

Hello All,

I wrote a short message to Mike at Sasquatch Ontario expressing appreciation and thanks for looking into my 'thumb' pic discoveries.
Here is the pertinent details....



Hello From Samos :)
Hello Mike,

Just a quick Thank You for taking a look over at 'The One Truth' and giving it some of your analysis and time. It was greatly appreciated by all.

I hope you understand that jimmer's thread at the forum, may not exactly be a Sasquatch Ontario Fan Club, but it is based on people who are amazed at what you are achieving, as well as the curious and the concerned. Trolls just simply do not exist over there. Jimmer is a good captain and keeps it rolling....all Sasquatch evidence is topic, but usually through the lens of your discoveries and the awareness you've now given the 'community'. Many Thanks.

Stay safe Mike, and continued success.


Reply:

Re:Hello From Samos :)
Thanks (Samos).
The support is always appreciated, especially with such controversy that brings about much animosity and ridicule. It's a difficult situation to deal with at times but the support helps us through it all.

Just got back from a 2 night stay with more progress. I was somewhat disappointed with the lack of audio this past visit (there was a little but not like previous visits) but the owner and I believe it's due to the presence of an older (likely) sibling who has the 17" print. That same individual showed their presence again this past visit within 5 minutes of arrival. A single print was left by the car with a flurry of activity following. An incredible welcoming upon my arrival :)

Hope we get to hear about that 'flurry' of activity with the 17 inch track in a little more detail.


LOL...also, I officially requested his permission to use his Sasquatch photo as my avatar. For those who don't know, Mike captured this picture at his habituation site in Ontario, and is possibly the Sas known as Nephatia. Permission was 'officially' granted !! :winner:


http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b489/samos42/Capture1_zps8b2350b4.png

[samos]

Here's a little from Mike's comment section...

racertracer2007 (subscriber)

1 day ago
Mike, are you saying that they know how to turn on the camera and go into the settings menu and program the camera to not turn on the flash?

Reply

Sasquatch Ontario

18 hours ago
That's right. I also just come back from a visit where my time stamp was turned off on two pics. I leave it on all the time now and there were two photos on my camera this past visit showing no time stamp.
They've also manipulated another camera turning off the flash.

[jimmer]

Just got back from a 2 night stay with more progress. I was somewhat disappointed with the lack of audio this past visit (there was a little but not like previous visits) but the owner and I believe it's due to the presence of an older (likely) sibling who has the 17" print. That same individual showed their presence again this past visit within 5 minutes of arrival. A single print was left by the car with a flurry of activity following. An incredible welcoming upon my arrival :)

thanks, samos. that is interesting insight.

so, an older sibling has moved into nephia's role?
if so, that could change the paradigm. a real game changer.

we've found that older sas who haven't had human contact
can be pretty rough and scary, even violent.
hopes that this new actor has the same kind of mentality as
nephatia and ashantia.

I wonder how mike feels about this?
more question for ms. obom?
where's nephatia?
who's this older sibling?
is everything cool?

[Tonz]

reading this from and expedition from 2001 and prior ,a good read ,from the yowie guys

http://www.yowiehunters.com/index.php/105-

[jimmer]

in case you missed this, I thought I'd repost a documentary that started in one direction and ended in another.
here MK and his friend, Jay Michael, traveled south to investigate the legendary
Honey Island Swamp Monster. what they found was what all the locals already knew.
and news to most everyone else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suXgGxSFxg8

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tiKyukBHWwQ/UMR2fn_2H-I/AAAAAAABNjE/ZodwSEkE8Ec/s1600/honeyislandfoot.jpg

http://swampmonster.weebly.com

[samos]

reading this from and expedition from 2001 and prior ,a good read ,from the yowie guys

http://www.yowiehunters.com/index.php/105-

Hello Tonton, thank you for posting those encounters. Pretty frightening stuff...

The Yowies are very similar in behavior to North American Sas, including the dimensional aspect, it appears..they do seem a little more aggressive. The evidence out there is overwhelming.

[modwiz]

we've found that older sas who haven't had human contact
can be pretty rough and scary, even violent.


Looking through an Elder Sas eyes would have me in severe conflict with any human contact. Contactees usually reside in a human community where there is much danger for them. Even if the numbers of those dangers are small. I can easily see a scenario where Elders who might consider outreach would want it done with extreme discretion. You know them young'uns. They're ready to trust everybody and just get along. Most humans want that. Just a pocketful of knuckle-draggers bring it all down. Doesn't take to much poo to spoil the punch.

It is amazing the power some can wield if you can't kill them.:ha:

[Tonz]

Get to know Rex Gilroy: Yowie Hunter,a pioneer,a self trained,self disciplined,life dedication.
Sad ,lonely,amazing husband and wife.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/10/07/rex-gilroy-yowie-hunter

[jimmer]

Get to know Rex Gilroy: Yowie Hunter,a pioneer,a self trained,self disciplined,life dedication.
Sad ,lonely,amazing husband and wife.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/10/07/rex-gilroy-yowie-hunter

knowing what we've learned about the elusive aspects of these sentient beings, rex and the rest
will never get the grail, unless gifted with contact. so very rare. long live rex and the quest.
should rex begin meditating? should he redirect his research into the metaphysical?
could he embrace that departure?

[jsb_swampfox]

Here is some more info inline with the metaphysical.

http://sunstar-solutions.com/BFvanishing.htm#quicklyvanishing

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/BVMOD4_SM_zps668ca659.jpg

[jimmer]

Here is some more info inline with the metaphysical.

http://sunstar-solutions.com/BFvanishing.htm#quicklyvanishing

that is one excellent find, jeff.
the eyewitness accounts of paranormal sas activity are awesome,
downright scary and support what we've been learning, like, The Trap.
still working on all the entries, but this one is a show stopper...give a listen.


http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/ScreenShot2014-04-07atApril-7-20141059AM_zpse17d9bbf.jpghttps://soundcloud.com/jimmerjimmer/the-trap

the portal delivered this guy to a 'jungle' setting.
lots of moist soil to get on the feet. hmmm.

[Frances]

M.K. sent me a message.
He said he would take a look at the Australian yowie photo .
Used phone. Still waiting for Internet.
Be good if he could show some details.
Frances.

[jimmer]

M.K. sent me a message.
He said he would take a look at the Australian yowie photo .
Used phone. Still waiting for Internet.
Be good if he could show some details.
Frances.

that's big news, france.
does MK have the resource of a clean photo image?
wonder how he can get a clean copy?

btw: what's with your internet connection?
catastrophic network failure or is it your machine?

[Frances]

Hi Jimmer.
I have to wait until April 17th to get connected with a new Internet provider.
The provider I had merged with another company and i lost connection.
Takes too long on the phone.
I keep pressing the wrong buttons. Frustrating.
I am viewing the forum though.
Frances.

[jimmer]

frances,
gee. you'd think your provider
would try not to get rid of it's customers.

stay well. keep in touch and get back when you can.
we'll be here.
jimmer

[jimmer]

bumpity, bump, bump.

here's a compilation of 92 years of bigfoot sightings
across the US and Canada.

what a study.
(http://www.joshuastevens.net/visualization/squatch-watch-92-years-of-bigfoot-sightings-in-us-and-canada/)

[jimmer]

Warning: You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into... BV2.

tonight on the US discovery channel begins a two-part special: Survivorman Bigfoot,
featuring the sylanic projects's todd standing.

here are two clips from the second episode.

pretty dramatic stuff. don't know what to


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2U5JsW5ZQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHcC6WbwuUw

[jsb_swampfox]

WOW!!! I have not seen that second video..those were perfectly clear shots of the face. It looked like two different ones

update: was thumbing thru the comments...most are saying fake..idk. it looks good though.

[jimmer]

here's a compilation of reports centered around
david paulides', missing 411, but goes much further.
at approx. 11 min mark, the talk turns to a hominoid species
different from 'sasquatch,' aggressive and not to be
messed with, the genoshkwa.

have these 'missing' individuals been preyed upon in the open
or are these events related to portals, like:

http://jandeane81.com/threads/317-Bigfoot-Vocalizations-2?p=18874&viewfull=1#post18874

this is a story about those poor souls who were not as lucky as mike patterson.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7jDy_rwFls

[jimmer]

WOW!!! I have not seen that second video..those were perfectly clear shots of the face. It looked like two different ones

update: was thumbing thru the comments...most are saying fake..idk. it looks good though.

if the video is fake, todd standing has quite a pair.
hoaxing the discovery channel would take an extreme level of hubris.
let's check it out (once aired) and see what's up.

[jimmer]

I don't know about you, but after
reviewing the above missing 411 video
and leaving it very disturbed, here's more to chew on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZU9eQvRuxI

[jimmer]

more from interviewer george knapp and bigfoot researcher/investigator, david paulides.

more about the dr. ketchum bigfoot dna analysis and the missing 411.

frances first introduced this topic and we must have gotten carried away, but it's never
too late to focus on this phenomenon. many of the missing cases have no conclusion.
those that do are highly strange, often heartbreaking and can only be explained with a leap-of-faith.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82ynC31VXLo

[samos]

Mitch Waite is having a live broadcast on you tube channel 'SusanFrans' tonight. He plans to take the cameras outside researching, after 8 pm.when he claims activity picks up. His current time now is 3:40 PM, but he is on and will be live all night. Just getting gear ready for now. Pretty cool, Mitch !


Mitch is providing this live broadcast free to viewers (all 8 of us, so far... LOL), without advertising.
Les Stroud and Todd Standing will just have to wait....

an interesting link on Todd Standing http://www.bigfootlunchclub.com/2011/03/todd-standings-sylvanic-bigfoot-erased.html
Take from it what you will...

[mojo]

thanks for the continued efforts guys & gals

[modwiz]

Genoshkwa, eh? I am forced to ponder whether we are dealing with separate species, sub-species or different "tribes". Native Amer. cultures were varied in morals and warlike nature. Genoshkwa may represent a more xenophobic and "protective" tribe. They may see themselves as an immune response to a very possible threat to their kind.

It is good to know of these distinctions. Whatever they are.

[jimmer]

Genoshkwa, eh? I am forced to ponder whether we are dealing with separate species, sub-species or different "tribes". Native Amer. cultures were varied in morals and warlike nature. Genoshkwa may represent a more xenophobic and "protective" tribe. They may see themselves as an immune response to a very possible threat to their kind.

It is good to know of these distinctions. Whatever they are.

right on, modwiz.

we could be dealing with distinct species of different characteristics, attitudes, abilities
or simply different regional clans of the same species, with unique cultural underpinnings.

spiritualist, kewaunee (bob) says 7 different species, some others say fewer.

this anthropologist believes sasquatch was the product of the breeding of newly minted
human (cro-magnon) and old neanderthal hominids. if there are different sas species,
that first sas would have needed to breed with other species, but what? nephilim? aliens?
if so, would those pairings explain the paranormal, inter-dimensional capability? (http://youtu.be/mZbmywzGAVs?t=3m59s)

[jimmer]

Mitch Waite is having a live broadcast on you tube channel 'SusanFrans' tonight. He plans to take the cameras outside researching, after 8 pm.when he claims activity picks up. His current time now is 3:40 PM, but he is on and will be live all night. Just getting gear ready for now. Pretty cool, Mitch !


Mitch is providing this live broadcast free to viewers (all 8 of us, so far... LOL), without advertising.
Les Stroud and Todd Standing will just have to wait....

an interesting link on Todd Standing http://www.bigfootlunchclub.com/2011/03/todd-standings-sylvanic-bigfoot-erased.html
Take from it what you will...

here's mitches show. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbhRuaQghms)

I watched SURVIVORMAN: BIGFOOT (episode 1) last night.
my take away? 2 huge egos crammed into one show.
if the finale does reveal contact of any kind, then these guys are either the finest
sas trackers on the planet or something else.
I'm hold-off until that airing.

[jimmer]

seems that mike is busy gathering new
experiences, but here's an interesting
YT back and forth I ran into.
there appears to be lots mike hasn't
made public, like this...

CONNIE LLOYD3 days ago
It sounds like your bigfoot's been drinking!!!*

Sasquatch Ontario3 days ago
You'd be surprised what he's been into. 

CONNIE LLOYD2 days ago
Okay I was being a little cheeky but it does sound like he's gotten into the applejack!* 

Sasquatch Ontario2 days ago
You don't realize how close to the truth you are :)
We've had beer disappear, even finding a bottle that was extremely warm to the touch from being held.

[jimmer]

here's two interviews with todd standing and dr. jeff meldrum.
seems that they have partnered up for a new series of shows.
in the first interview, dr. melfrum relates his research into
todd's reputation and came out of it convinced that standing is legit.

for further conversation, here are both interviews
(thanks frances for the tip, wherever you are ; )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojNqwJnmSpI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXRT-gZjC5A

[samos]

seems that mike is busy gathering new
experiences, but here's an interesting
YT back and forth I ran into.
there appears to be lots mike hasn't
made public, like this...

CONNIE LLOYD3 days ago
It sounds like your bigfoot's been drinking!!!*

Sasquatch Ontario3 days ago
You'd be surprised what he's been into. 

CONNIE LLOYD2 days ago
Okay I was being a little cheeky but it does sound like he's gotten into the applejack!* 

Sasquatch Ontario2 days ago
You don't realize how close to the truth you are :)
We've had beer disappear, even finding a bottle that was extremely warm to the touch from being held.

I've actually discussed this incident with friends before. Where do you think the likely place would be to store your beer? Inside the cottage? Cooler/outside? Maybe this was the night of the famous 'belching Sasquatch' recording....a truly first of its kind !!

Mike has always been reluctant to speak about what goes on within the cottage.....


Todd Standing, IMO, is a shrewd hoaxer. He has made Sas exploitation his business. I think guys like Stroud and Dr. Meldrum have aligned themselves with him during the Melba Ketchum DNA sequencing study, which also seems a little dubious. Her resources and evidence came from two major contributors (among many others). 1: Rick Dyer...ughh, and 2: the Erikson Project featuring 'Matilda' the sleeping Sasquatch (Chewbacca face), both leaving me a very uneasy feeling. Talk about messing with the Sasquatch research gene pool !! It is now so muddled with non-fact that it should be ruled out...Occam's razor style ;)

Too tough?

PS: I like Dr. Meldrum just fine...as an ape theorist. His lectures and findings are useful in this field as well.

[jimmer]

I've actually discussed this incident with friends before. Where do you think the likely place would be to store your beer? Inside the cottage? Cooler/outside? Maybe this was the night of the famous 'belching Sasquatch' recording....a truly first of its kind !!

Mike has always been reluctant to speak about what goes on within the cottage.....


Todd Standing, IMO, is a shrewd hoaxer. He has made Sas exploitation his business. I think guys like Stroud and Dr. Meldrum have aligned themselves with him during the Melba Ketchum DNA sequencing study, which also seems a little dubious. Her resources and evidence came from two major contributors (among many others). 1: Rick Dyer...ughh, and 2: the Erikson Project featuring 'Matilda' the sleeping Sasquatch (Chewbacca face), both leaving me a very uneasy feeling. Talk about messing with the Sasquatch research gene pool !! It is now so muddled with non-fact that it should be ruled out...Occam's razor style ;)

Too tough?

PS: I like Dr. Meldrum just fine...as an ape theorist. His lectures and findings are useful in this field as well.

the belching, mooching sasquatch.
now that would make quite a documentary.
what I want to know is...where's this darn book?

as for todd standing, until good, documented evidence emerges, I'll keep my
options open. at first, some of those sas face shot seemed too good, but think about it --
if they are legit, how can it be verified? trust is it for now -- not yet bestowed to standing.
I do think it's interesting that dr. meldrum (after careful vetting) would align himself with standing.
he's there to do the documenting. the science.
I remember first watching the broadcast version of the 'alien abduction' video and choked
when I saw stanton friedman contemplating the incident's veracity. later I heard him moan that he was lied to and dupe to participate. ($$) (http://youtu.be/6pGcN3b1IRQ?t=20m51s)
who knows how this will work out.
one things for sure, we'll find out eventually.
I've listened to the first interview. I mean, it's all about rebuilding standing's credibility.
meldrum is on-board, so let's see if it pans out or if jeff ends up bent over a warm beer
commiserating with stanton, as a new member of the oh-am-I-stupid club.
time will tell.

here are some clips from the first episode of survivorman: bigfoot.
the music is choice. good squatch'in stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owMa58zO8gs
http://lesstroud.ca/news/survivorman-bigfoot

in the UK, you may be able to watch parts of the first episode. it's blacked out in the states.

http://www.travelandescape.ca/shows/survivorman/

[jimmer]

on the other (big)foot, here's the argument against todd standing and his sas imagery.
to me, these guys represent the good 'ol boy bigfoot establishment and are extremely childish and condescending.
along the way, a bigfoot costume 'special effects expert' chimes in.
I've seen the best he could do and this guy is not that good.
for my money, these are guys who treat bigfoot research like a fishing trip.
be sure to bring the beer and guns. these are the bigfoot wannabes, protecting their big 'ol sas butts.
or am I all wrong?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GAP_oB8OsU

[jimmer]

yet another les stroud interview that deals with 'why todd standing.'
my takeaway? this interview is all fanboy.
and check out the bearded guy. playing sasquatch?
he hardly blinks an eye. funny.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm3_bcImBV0

[samos]

The live video feed from Mitch Waite a few days ago, did not pan out as Mitch had hoped. Apparently he had bandwidth issues and lost connection after 3 hours. It was scheduled for 8 hrs. Here is a little info on his highly active research zone, in his own words:

For those who have not followed the complete story of this video, more will come to explain it. However, the short story is there have been some strange events happen at this trailer ever since it was moved in on some remote vacant land. Knocking on the trailer side and strange noises. I offered to investigate to try to determine if we were dealing with the spiritual paranormal or if there was some type of cryptid creature involved. We photographed some strange things including what appeared to be plasma discharges on the chicken wire, strange faces in the reflection of the trailer metal skin, and noises. We may be dealing with multiple causes and effects, and this is one evening's investigation.

His latest video from this location recorded 4/10/14 procured lots of footprints. The night of his live broadcast he had prepared the area by clearing obstacles and brushing the nearby area of any human tracks in and around the vicinity of the trailer. In many ways, this location is much like the 'Skinwalker Ranch' and I believe deserves our attention. Like so many others, it is important to follow it from the beginning, but here is the latest.

There are several other vids from this hotspot which I will look for and post. Enjoy Mitch and his common man approach.


http://youtu.be/l3xEWqWZEDs

[samos]

Here is the strange electrical light anomalies video. First, let's read this introduction he attached to it.

Published on Oct 25, 2013

We investigate a trailer in the rural area of Show Low Arizona. The owners report knocking on their trailer that starts at the back of the trailer and moves forward at about 3am every morning. Then it sounds like something is climbing up an down the chicken wire that was used to create a house cat run (enclosure). We put game cameras on the trailer to see what was knocking on the walls. As of this uploading, I am sitting in the trailer listing to the knocking and became very ill to the point of nearly passing out of consciousness. Something strange is afoot! The investigation continues.



http://youtu.be/s2SfZbHQU4s



The second day follow up visit. Upon review of this video, I wonder if his latest live broadcast (at trailer location) was a bandwidth issue or not? .....


http://youtu.be/DwBf2fDWbFQ

[modwiz]

on the other (big)foot, here's the argument against todd standing and his sas imagery.
to me, these guys represent the good 'ol boy bigfoot establishment and are extremely childish and condescending.
along the way, a bigfoot costume 'special effects expert' chimes in.
I've seen the best he could do and this guy is not that good.
for my money, these are guys who treat bigfoot research like a fishing trip.
be sure to bring the beer and guns. these are the bigfoot wannabes, protecting their big 'ol sas butts.
or am I all wrong?


I clicked through the video to get a sense. That intro was good ol boy, big time. Huge part of USA culture, and it set a tone. The tone it set made me expect less than I got. My general sense of these guys is they are disseminators and cheerleaders for the serious research. An op-ed of sas community interest. The musician added some geek factor which lent intellectual credibility to it for the short clip I watched. I did not watch enough to see if there was any kind of bias or agenda. It came off as an all male The SasView. I did not see enough to know if they do field work. Although nice enough guys, from a quick look, Sas needs the right sort of human to interact with. These guys might trigger the Genoshkwa to show up.:shocked: Even a nice Sas would be crap your pants time for many a soul.:fpalm:
If I ever meet one, I'll give a short(s) report.:ha:

[jimmer]

Here is the strange electrical light anomalies video. First, let's read this introduction he attached to it.

Published on Oct 25, 2013

We investigate a trailer in the rural area of Show Low Arizona. The owners report knocking on their trailer that starts at the back of the trailer and moves forward at about 3am every morning. Then it sounds like something is climbing up an down the chicken wire that was used to create a house cat run (enclosure). We put game cameras on the trailer to see what was knocking on the walls. As of this uploading, I am sitting in the trailer listing to the knocking and became very ill to the point of nearly passing out of consciousness. Something strange is afoot! The investigation continues.

The second day follow up visit. Upon review of this video, I wonder if his latest live broadcast (at trailer location) was a bandwidth issue or not? .....

so mitch is experiencing paranormal events and even health issues.
pretty unsettling stuff.
is he aware that sas exhibits the paranormal, orbs?
seems that he may not be making the connection, yet.
although, he is aware of mike's exploits and his paranormal experiences.
should mitch be intouch with mike to compare notes?

[jimmer]

from a bygone era, 1975, comes, Bigfoot - Man or Beast?
follow along with grimly determined researcher, robert morgan
and his band of sas hunters as they, 'finally, get the job done.'
deep in the mount st. helens forest, near the ape canyon incident
of 1927, tag along on an extended stay search for the elusive bigfoot.

all in all, this theatrical release holds up pretty well and seems surprisingly contemporary.
and I challenge you to get that harmonica ditty out of your head.

early on, one startling find: host/narrator j. english smith's squatching getup. tre chic ; )

B+


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-PPZwHZBak&list=PLB95720D91DB05A50&index=52

[jimmer]

from parabreakdown, an analysis of a flir imaged heat emitting 'object.'
one of his best investigations.
includes recorded vocalizations from the same area.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlGFgKfSmd8

[jimmer]

so, this where MK (and don) has been: Revisiting Love Lock Cave.
watch our merry adventurers hit-up on a cute looking woman ; )
evidently, more video diaries to follow...we'll keep an eye out.


Published on Apr 15, 2014
M.K. and Don are travelling down into Nevada from Oregon,*
when they decide to pull over at this lava flow to enjoy the sight.*
As sometimes happens, it becomes a little comic relief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi5zkBn3u5g
Published on Apr 15, 2014
A full day of exploring has Don a bit disheveled.
Here we make it most of the way to the cave and the road is blocked by a sand dune.
We just laugh at ourselves a bit and walk the rest of the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUFjNp81xSw

[jimmer]

the real sas researchers are out there.
here's mich waite's third video on his
Slow Low, Arizona extended stay experiences.
mitch recounts seeing a 'giant rabbit,' big enough to saddle.
we can recall MK's sighting of a strange, large, rabbit-like
creature as it ran in front of his truck.
quizzing mitch about his sighting, it was nothing
paranormal, just a native, really big rabbit, nothing more.
but who knows?

not much was going on, then something tugs on the door knob...

we'll keep an eye on mitch's exploits, as well.

thanks samos for the tip-off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sv4mWs_XYk

[jimmer]

as we wait to see the final installment of survivorman: bigfoot,
I came to a realization, les stroud, like many musicans,
is into it for the chicks : )

he is quite a musical guy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=channel%3A326ac64e-37c7-2686-9f38-20cf301cbdfe&feature=iv&src_vid=owMa58zO8gs&v=YRfgsdvIM-w

[jimmer]

here's a good one: bigfoot researcher,robert morgan, of 'Bigfoot - Man or Beast?' fame,
art bell and a texan who said he shot a bigfoot.
think about it, back in 1975 morgan said he was ready to 'finally get the job done.'
and think about how disillusioned you'd be questing all these years and nothing (much) to show for it.
and if we remember, robert seemed ahead of the squatching curve with his non-aggressive, no guns approach
of a 'man-like' being. even today, researchers like todd standing and most of the BFRO call sas an ape.
kudos to robert morgan.

you may have heard this before, but in this new context, maybe it's worth a fresh listen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0P7RKLR6ek

[jimmer]

here's mitch's second night, 4th installment: snores in the night.
when I watch mitch hunkered down like this, it's as if he's an
astronaut in deep space, somewhere in the american southwest desert.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdGYs0--orY&list=UUZ4oW0iFCCkXZlz8BE5AE7A

[jimmer]

my take on survivorman: bigfoot episode 2 (finale)

well, I must have missed it originally when I posted the
choice excerpts from the second show -- the red attack video.
(turns out all that red is a warning flare. knowing that, you can clearly hear it.)

and it turns out this was not les stroud fending off a group of aggressive
sas, but archival footage from todd standing.
that realization tainted the last show for me.
and what about those growls? they sounded closer to the mic than the flare.
how was that done?

so it looks as though these two shows were 'pilots' for stroud and his new venture.
a test to see if they'd get the eyeballs. bet they did.
evidently, survivorman sans bigfoot had run its course.

in the last few moments of this show comes the message (paraphrased):
the adventure continues...

so, les stroud analyzed several authentic looking tree glyphs and that was about it for his
personal bigfoot experience. but enough for a new show, I bet.
for me, all the pre-hype over shadowed the show. d-i-s-a-p-p-o-i-n-t-e-d.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2U5JsW5ZQ

[Frances]

http://www.bigfootproject.org/articles/mayak_datat.html

Article based on Kathy Moskowitz presentation at the International Bigfoot Symposium.
Sept 12th - 14th 2003.
Willow Creek California.

Painted Rock is located on the Tule River Indian Reservation, above Porterville, in the Sierra Nevada foothills of Central California.
Rock shelter associated with a Native American Yokuts Village.
The pictographs are located within the shelter.

Article includes photographs.
Historical information.
Traditional stories.
Food stealing.
Frances.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/BVMOD4_SM_zps668ca659.jpg

[jimmer]

http://www.bigfootproject.org/articles/mayak_datat.html

Article based on Kathy Moskowitz presentation at the International Bigfoot Symposium.
Sept 12th - 14th 2003.
Willow Creek California.

Painted Rock is located on the Tule River Indian Reservation, above Porterville, in the Sierra Nevada foothills of Central California.
Rock shelter associated with a Native American Yokuts Village.
The pictographs are located within the shelter.

Article includes photographs.
Historical information.
Traditional stories.
Food stealing.
Frances.

well, that's interesting

"Hairy Man appears to have a spiritual or religious aspect as well.
Kroeber (1925) noted that animals could be totems to various Yokuts bands.
Hairy Man, however, was never a totem, because by this time, he was viewed as a monster."

so all those bigfoot totem figures are misinterpretations.

excellent informations and nice to have you back, frances.
hopes that your new ISP is reliable ; )

[Frances]

I am enjoying the catch up, quite a few posts to view.
Glad to be back. I am working through what I have missed.
Frances.


I like how you manage to get them little metal medals in Jimmer. ('~')

[samos]

Hello Frances :) Welcome back !

Yes, i'm sure you have a lot to catch up on. Jimmer has kept us on our toes.
Here is an interesting comment and answer which you might find 'interesting', indeed...


nikovich
1 day ago (edited)
I know you are busy with life Mike, as are we all, just wanted to get your take on the latest tom-foolery from Mr.Todd Standing. Not only has he teamed up with Les Stroud, as you probably know, but he's now managed to rope in Jeff Meldrum ! Both of these guys seem convinced that Sasquatch is ape, and the portrait shots of the beings that Standing took leave me almost shaking with rage at their fake-ness. Take a listen if you have time, to his new 'radio show' on his channel. The guy is in it for the money. Plain and simple.



Sasquatch Ontario

1 day ago (edited)
I prefer to reserve my thoughts as I don't like speaking negatively about others involved in this subject unless they're personally attacking me or a proven hoaxer like Dyer, etc. One thing I will say is I've been involved in a situation with the property owner for about 18 months with trust built and progressive activity on 100% of the visits. I know what they're capable of, know that they can walk right up to us, physically touch us and not be seen, etc. They can manipulate inanimate objects, leave prints where they choose, speak from thin air, etc.
I've had one visual brushed off as a tree at the time, that's it. That is with trust built and a long term situation with roughly 60 visits documented in that time.
I'm personally not convinced at this point and would love to have a one on one with Standing and get his side of the story.
I've spoken with an individual from the UK who was a complete skeptic of this situation but has recently had his own experiences and now understands what they're capable of. I've also recently heard of another habituator in the U.S. who's also had activity showing the same sort of occurrences. Seems to me that real sasquatch activity from Canada to the other side of the world show the same qualities of occurrences regardless of geographical location.


We missed you Frances. Now, all is well and good..carry on

[jimmer]

Sasquatch Ontario
1 day ago (edited)
I prefer to reserve my thoughts as I don't like speaking negatively about others involved in this subject unless they're personally attacking me or a proven hoaxer like Dyer, etc. One thing I will say is I've been involved in a situation with the property owner for about 18 months with trust built and progressive activity on 100% of the visits. I know what they're capable of, know that they can walk right up to us, physically touch us and not be seen, etc. They can manipulate inanimate objects, leave prints where they choose, speak from thin air, etc.
I've had one visual brushed off as a tree at the time, that's it. That is with trust built and a long term situation with roughly 60 visits documented in that time.
I'm personally not convinced at this point and would love to have a one on one with Standing and get his side of the story.
I've spoken with an individual from the UK who was a complete skeptic of this situation but has recently had his own experiences and now understands what they're capable of. I've also recently heard of another habituator in the U.S. who's also had activity showing the same sort of occurrences. Seems to me that real sasquatch activity from Canada to the other side of the world show the same qualities of occurrences regardless of geographical location.

great find, samos.
I respect mike for not jumping to conclusions.
while standing's photos look 'too good,' that's all we can know at this point.
as always, we'll stay vigilant for any new input, opinions and controversies.

and what about les stroud? cashing in or genuinely committed?

[jimmer]

also from samos' tip, here's mitches latest
at his Show Low, Arizona outpost.

Published on Apr 17, 2014
Strange things continue during the night. Cameras cut out, power failures, glitches, knocks on the walls etc.
Day light comes and it is time to prepare for another attempt ay discovering what is messing with the trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n35KOOiVWvU
Published on Apr 18, 2014
Another night of strange stuff, The night starts out slow, and there are some indications that events will pick up.
I am using a new web cam to record the events in color instead of green screen.
It is a bit slow, but it sets up the night's events to follow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niiADIcoaI0

[jimmer]

this is labeled, werewolf, but it doesn't look wolf-like, to me.
prominent ears are not visible.
at the end of the initial sequence, looks to stand up, on two legs.
and check out the 'snout.'

is this the 'visitor'?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTaN6iRXvvk

[Frances]

I am enjoying Mitch's videos very much. He is putting a lot of effort and time into his research and I hope it pays off.
I like his gental style and patience.
I would not be surprised if the Bigfoot sweep thier tracks away just like Mitch does.
The mirrors on the sides of the trailer are a great idea.
Frances.

[Frances]

The werewolf video brings thoughts of the Dog Men or Dog People. I have read many reports of sightings of these people so I won't dismiss the connection.
The snout is quite prominent and this animal may be comfortable on all fours and on two legs.
Sasquatch/Bigfoot use all fours as well as using upright position.
Interesting video.
Frances.

[jimmer]

The werewolf video brings thoughts of the Dog Men or Dog People. I have read many reports of sightings of these people so I won't dismiss the connection.
The snout is quite prominent and this animal may be comfortable on all fours and on two legs.
Sasquatch/Bigfoot use all fours as well as using upright position.
Interesting video.
Frances.

when videos like this provide no context,
only, 'what do you think?,' we are left pretty cold.
wouldn't you like to know why the recorder felt compelled
to surveil that particular area?
the 'creature' does seem repelled by the infrared camera,
enough to slink around the edges.
without some believable context and background,
this video can only be a curiosity.
but a good one, at that.

[jimmer]

here's Adrian Erickson and the trailer for the Erickson Project documentary.
posted in late 2013, the doc appears to be on hold awaiting its finale, or so it would seem.

"The research of the Erickson Project was based on habituation encounters.
No scientific researcher or TV crew will likely ever be successful in encountering a Sasquatch
by charging into the bush dressed in camouflage, and loaded up with fancy equipment."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BzSuC0dVTs#t=30
http://sasquatchthequest.com/home.html

here's the summary of the Sasquatch Genome Project, led by Dr. Ketchum.
included are photos of historical sas references, test samples, hair, flesh, etc.
(you can either scoll through the doc here or view as a separate browser window pdf.)

"...the data conclusively proves that the Sasquatch exist as an extant hominin
and are a direct maternal descendent of modern humans."

http://sasquatchgenomeproject.org/data/documents/Novel-North-American-Hominins-Final-PDF-download.pdf

[jimmer]

here's the full press conference announcing the
Sasquatch Genome Project findings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEWpLio-Lgw

[jimmer]

ready or not, the 5th episode of Speaking Sasquatch.
let's see what they have to say...
immediate takeaway: what's with the host's suit?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5prZguTWwI

[samos]

Hi jimmer, and all...

I'm not ready for Speaking Sas, yet. I'll pass for now :)

Here is a link to a long blog about Dr. Melba Ketchum. Yes, it is 'snarky', but I think it will put things into context about her. I do not trust her, emphasis on 'I'...you make your own conclusions. Her latest is a fictional love story trilogy between a Sas and a young girl. After meeting with so many habituators, she says the readers will have to decide which parts of the novels are likely real and which is fake. Her self-published works (including the Genome Project) require donations which begin at $7,000+. Average DNA testing, such as Peruvian skulls...upwards to $100,000.

http://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/2013/11/03/fake-peer-review-document-discovered-in-ketchum-bigfoot-dna-case/

I couldn't find the Dyer DNA contribution to her study, other than Christopher Noel's word. So, I stand corrected and I guess that's a good thing. The Todd Standing contribution was simply selling all of his research and videos to Chris Erikson, forfeiting rights to locations, evidence, etc. Erikson, of course, is a chief player behind the Ketchum study. My gut feeling is He and Standing was involved in the making of 'Matilda' video. Justin Smeaja? (claims shot and killed juvenile Sas), is another I don't trust....intestinal sample or blood on boot...which is it?

The fact is, anyone who follows or is active in this forum, has the info to produce a highly believable thesis, study or encounter given what we have learned. Throw in a few DNA charts, hair samples and cell sequencing snapshots and there you go....thank you for your donations $$$$ The shame of it all, is that a lot of good evidence is wasted and lost in this 'cash cow'.

Too tough? Sorry, I will remain skeptical on this one...

PS: I was surprised to see David Paulides (Missing Persons) had donated funding and evidence to Dr Ketchum's study. Makes me wonder ?

[Frances]

Hello Samos, you are right about the commercial aspect of the Sasquatch/ Bigfoot research. Follow The Money.

For my own part in this amazing subject, my mind keeps coming up with two main species.
The physical 3d Bigfoot.
The inter - dimensional Sasquatch.
Both theses species have cousins which differ in size, facial looks and temperament.
That is why we get reports of extreme aggression, love and care.
I must admit to keeping it simple .

I do enjoy other peoples research and I always look forward to Mike Paterson's videos.
I believe in the education of people towards the Bigfoot, this process keeps getting bigger and bigger. I feel answers will come.
I enjoy the magic and my own education of this subject so I will just plod on and hope that the real deal will one day come.
I don't let the "high up's" or "big names" put me off.
It's always good to know who the fakers are though.
Frances.

[samos]

Frances,

Here is an edited rant from Mike posted an hour ago. He constantly has to defend the consistency of their findings...poor guy. I guess this comes with the territory. You Tube is a tough crowd for more than one reason (or lack of reasoning). TOT would be a better home for him :)

I've said he's standing on the porch because we can hear him. We can hear the wood creak under the weight of his feet. Last visit he actually did partially materialize for the owner while standing outside the cottage front door. As for me, I've always stated that I've only had one visual that was brushed off as a tree at the time. I speak the truth which is why you'll find no inconsistency in this entire channel.


Also this post, a little about Dr. John Bindernagel.

John is the #1 scientist in Canada for the subject of sasquatch. The issue with science is they're chasing apes and will stay stagnant in their understanding of these highly evolved beings until they step outside the box and into new unchartered territory. This is now dealing on a level of quantum physics that we don't yet understand.

I've spoken with John about some of the strangeness that comes with sasquatch activity. He's open minded which I respect.
Thanks for the support.

[Frances]

In June 2013, Mike Paterson sent me an e mail. Mike said then that Dr John Bindernagel was standing in his corner and that he had spent time with him in an area that he frequents. I took that to mean the area in Onterio. Mike has also sent John Bindrenagel evidence.

Mike has said that John still stands with him now.
So after Mike disclosed to the world that he is dealing with an inter - dimensional Sasquatch Dr Bindernagel is still there in his corner.

Not many people get to go to Mike's area, John Bindernagel must have seen or heard for himself the "high strangeness" that goes on there.
Frances.

[jimmer]

Hi jimmer, and all...

I'm not ready for Speaking Sas, yet. I'll pass for now

Here is a link to a long blog about Dr. Melba Ketchum. Yes, it is 'snarky', but I think it will put things into context about her. I do not trust her, emphasis on 'I'...you make your own conclusions. Her latest is a fictional love story trilogy between a Sas and a young girl. After meeting with so many habituators, she says the readers will have to decide which parts of the novels are likely real and which is fake. Her self-published works (including the Genome Project) require donations which begin at $7,000+. Average DNA testing, such as Peruvian skulls...upwards to $100,000.

http://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/2...foot-dna-case/

I couldn't find the Dyer DNA contribution to her study, other than Christopher Noel's word. So, I stand corrected and I guess that's a good thing. The Todd Standing contribution was simply selling all of his research and videos to Chris Erikson, forfeiting rights to locations, evidence, etc. Erikson, of course, is a chief player behind the Ketchum study. My gut feeling is He and Standing was involved in the making of 'Matilda' video. Justin Smeaja? (claims shot and killed juvenile Sas), is another I don't trust....intestinal sample or blood on boot...which is it?

The fact is, anyone who follows or is active in this forum, has the info to produce a highly believable thesis, study or encounter given what we have learned. Throw in a few DNA charts, hair samples and cell sequencing snapshots and there you go....thank you for your donations $$$$ The shame of it all, is that a lot of good evidence is wasted and lost in this 'cash cow'.

Too tough? Sorry, I will remain skeptical on this one...

PS: I was surprised to see David Paulides (Missing Persons) had donated funding and evidence to Dr Ketchum's study. Makes me wonder ?

my take to date is that what we are seeing is the highly confrontational, almost bitter, BFRO establishment side --
go after those who get there first.

smarmy and highly vicious.

as for "freakotourism entrepreneur Brien Foerster," I've been following his
exploits before our fascination with mike's work took-off. I find him highly
knowledgeable, honest, driven and resourceful -- and very connected to
many astute and regarded global scientists. as for his tourism business, that's
the resourceful part. to figure out how to fund his independent, expensive pursuit, he,
like many anthropologists, etc., create team excursions to their areas of study.
nothing odd or dishonest with that. it's done all the time. it comes down to intent and
from my knowledge of Brien, he is authentic, sincere and the real deal.
which leads me back to the accuser. what's his background?
who the heck is he to cast aspersions?
to get both sides of this, we need to know who he is, then we'll see where we land of this.

here's the wordpress site, author, owner of, Over the Line Smokey:

This is my venue. I often cross-post at dailykos.com, or at Democratic Underground, or My Left Wing.
My username seesdifferent reflects my perspective. I acquired this name while doing some historical research
which required retranslation of Native American oral and sign-language accounts.
Should there be an “-ly” at the end? or should there be an elipse? (…) Is “different” being used as an adjective or adverb?
In the end, it doesn’t matter, because it’s a name. Like Smith or Jones.
If Apple can do it, I can do it. Get over it. Read the stuff.

if you know anything about the DailyKos, for instance, it's inhabited by really
militant political warriors. lots of vile stuff posted there.
so, our rebuttalist to the Ketchum project is a not only snarky, he's a modern-day political terrorist, of sorts.
good place to get all our news and opinions. not.

I post this with all due respect to you, samos.
absolutely nothing personal and I'm glad you brought this
angle for further debate. that's what we do here ; )

here's an article penned by a Ketchum detractor and her defense. (http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/2013/07/melba-ketchum-strikes-back-there-is-a-conspiracy-to-suppress-our-findings/)

[Frances]

Wish I could sit back and enjoy the video of Speaking of Sasquatch. My mind blocks this woman, is it her voice? her tone? her presentation?
I enjoy all the others but I have to make myself endure or just turn it off. Will I be missing anything by not watching it?
Frances.

[jimmer]

Wish I could sit back and enjoy the video of Speaking of Sasquatch. My mind blocks this woman, is it her voice? her tone? her presentation?
I enjoy all the others but I have to make myself endure or just turn it off. Will I be missing anything by not watching it?
Frances.

yes, I agree, but the 'chandler' report is sorta worth the wait.

[jimmer]

ok, I've looked into this.

here is a full and robust, count for count
telling of the Ketchum Project, from beginning,
through all the twists and turns.

read it (hope you have the day free), swipe and let
your computer read it to you or listen to this complete
soundcloud file.

http://www.csicop.org/sb/show/the_ketchum_project_what_to_believe_about_bigfoot_ dna_science/

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/ScreenShot2014-04-07atApril-7-20141059AM_zpse17d9bbf.jpghttps://soundcloud.com/jimmerjimmer/ketchum-project

here's that coast to coast interview with Dr. Ketchum, mentioned later in the article.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR8T3OQVAVI

what is the source of this article?
upfront, this site comes at its inquiries
from a 'skeptical' vantage point, although
this recounting of the Ketchum Project saga
seems thorough and authentic.

About CSI

The mission of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry is to promote scientific inquiry, critical investigation,
and the use of reason in examining controversial and extraordinary claims. To carry out these objectives the Committee:

Maintains a network of people interested in critically examining paranormal, fringe science, and other claims, and in contributing to consumer education
Prepares bibliographies of published materials that carefully examine such claims
Encourages research by objective and impartial inquiry in areas where it is needed
Convenes conferences and meetings
Publishes articles that examine claims of the paranormal
Does not reject claims on a priori grounds, antecedent to inquiry, but examines them objectively and carefully
The Committee is a nonprofit scientific and educational organization, started in 1976. The Skeptical Inquirer is its official journal.

Some of the founding members of CSI include scientists, academics, and science writers such as Carl Sagan,
Isaac Asimov, Philip Klass, Paul Kurtz, Ray Hyman, James Randi, Martin Gardner, Sidney Hook, and others.
A list of CSI fellows is published in every issue of Skeptical Inquirer magazine.

CSI, encourages careful, rational, critical examination of unusual claims.
One of the best guides is a short piece by Ray Hyman, a professor of psychology at the University of Oregon, titled “Proper Criticism”.

[samos]

Hi Jimmer,
I've listened to the Coast to Coast interview before, but the article is new to me. I breezed through a few paragraphs and will devote the time. It interests me. Unfortunately it won't be this weekend..busy, busy.

Thanks for posting it.

BTW 'Smarmy'....hah hah...new one on me, I dig it !! No 'smarminess' over on this side of the screen...nothin' but Love :)



"Wish I could sit back and enjoy the video of Speaking of Sasquatch. My mind blocks this woman, is it her voice? her tone? her presentation?
I enjoy all the others but I have to make myself endure or just turn it off. Will I be missing anything by not watching it?
Frances."

Frances, I think it's your gut...truth has a certain ring to it.

As far as that suit goes....is that what they call a 'ghillie suit'? I've always wondered...
I'll give the show a listen (ughh) and maybe a review in a few days. It is difficult to watch at times, without feeling a little 'smarmy', myself ;)


Take care all, Happy Easter (whether you celebrate or not)
Samos

[Frances]

http://youtu.be/YUfK3nK9SpA

Published April 19th. 2014.

A look into another dimension.
The magic continues.
Takes your breath away.
It's so good.
Frances.

[samos]

Wow...that is an amazing video. thanks Frances.
I'm speechless.......with a thousand new questions buzzing in my head. Just, wow.


can't wait to dig deeper into those 'screen shots'.......dang !!

[samos]

While it's impossible to top Mike's new video.... Major Waite has made contact with ground control. ;)
As he commences countdown, we are currently on to episode 7, far across the world at Show Low, Arizona.

There's something about Mitch that I really like. I hope everyone enjoys today's double feature...


http://youtu.be/eb77dEboQfE

[jimmer]

well, good day!
very odd images.
this 'alternate dimension' looks
to be the same geographic area,
just another season. strange indeed.

when first jeff posted that link to inter-rdimensional
sas stories/activities, one story, The Trap,
presents a jungle-like portal environment.
I thought that if and when mike would get evidence
of his inter-dimensional friends second-place,
I'd watch to see if it was a similar, rain forest type place
would show up, but no.
the trees and brush seem to be that same region,
but no snow and presumedly warmer and a different
time of day.

good eyes, frances.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/ScreenShot2014-04-07atApril-7-20141059AM_zpse17d9bbf.jpghttps://soundcloud.com/jimmerjimmer/the-trap

[jimmer]

mike on the 'realm' images:

Sasquatch Ontario7:28 AM
Don't know if they're the same region.
I would suspect so but I really have no idea at this stage.
Except for the one taken at 3:26pm, the others are taken in the dark, showing sun on the trees.
There's a large sasquatch walking in one which is quite obvious.
The other pics show his movement.
There's much going on in those pics that we've left open for others to understand

[Frances]

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/36356fe7a8f060b79b7d9c20096cd5f9_zps2e32f7ff.jpg

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/161b543c43bf1f523ffa3bfab651f913_zps0a147e35.jpg

I view this weave as representing the male anatomy.
Frances.

[jimmer]

what do you think this gift signifies?
represents? looks like a jumble.

[Frances]

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/dcb1a0c1257c69c220eef7509dfc89da_zps7756fed9.jpg

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/a632/nicolaR1/700831f646c20d1e644425b8f80bc71e_zps077bbd1e.jpg

I view this weave with the marble in it, as saying another baby is on the way.
Frances.

[jimmer]

yes, I agree with the marble symbolism,
but what about mike's gift?
doesn't appear anthropomorphic
or anything, to me.
oh, just saw your comment.
now that's interesting. one gift is female-
oriented, the other male-oriented.
hm.

by the way, hopes that mojo has been
checking in to see his original inquiry
into sas paranormal activity coming to
fruition. in this new video, mike repeats
over and over, 'multidimensional activity.'
mojo, ahead of his time.

[Frances]

Hello Jimmer, I cannot find the Sasquatch walking around in the video shot.
If you get a chance could you please post a screen shot of the Sasquatch to give me an idea of what I am looking at.
Frances.

[jimmer]

Hello Jimmer, I cannot find the Sasquatch walking around in the video shot.
If you get a chance could you please post a screen shot of the Sasquatch to give me an idea of what I am looking at.
Frances.

hello, frances.
your guess is as good as mine.
I can't find much either.
in one of the shots, in the background, just left of center,
there appears to be a black sas head and shoulders shape.
if that's what mike is talking about, it's not much.
I have a YT question to him on 'where this sas,' so
we'll see if he helps.

by-the-way all BV2 friends and aficionados, Malc PMed
to say he's moved this confab to the 'priority forum,'
which I suspect is a good thing. so congratulations on
making BV2 a TOT destination. (http://jandeane81.com/forums/6-Priority-Threads)

now, what about those crazy multi-dimensional shots?
some look as if they were shot off a TV screen or am
I seeing things?
interestingly, a YTer made a similar observation, in a really rude comment
about mike hoaxing the shots off a screen and mike dove down his throat
with both feet. so I guess I won't quiz him 'bout that : /

[jimmer]

here are the pertinent 'sas realm' images.
I counted 3 images of the same setting showing
our subject in the background.
at first I was looking out front, but after mike
suggested doing a side-by-side comparison,
voila.

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae18/jimmerer/IMAGEREMOVED_zps73d9c39e.jpg

[Frances]

Great comparison shots Jimmer, I can see the Sasquatch now.
Photos look more enchanting with the Sasquatch and the strange lighting in the forest.
Frances.

Photograph No 2.
These photographs were taken with a point and shoot camera, ( I believe this to be the case )
You can clearly see blue sky through the photograph, these shots were taken at night when it was a black sky.
The date and time are shown on Mike's video as he talks us through it.

[jimmer]

Great comparison shots Jimmer, I can see the Sasquatch now.
Photos look more enchanting with the Sasquatch and the strange lighting in the forest.
Frances.

Photograph No 2.
These photographs were taken with a point and shoot camera, ( I believe this to be the case )
You can clearly see blue sky through the photograph, these shots were taken at night when it was a black sky.
The date and time are shown on Mike's video as he talks us through it.

they're always in the background, peeking.

yes, bluish, light colored sky, shot during 'our' night.
talk about accepting this leap-of-faith.
and mike is still holding back plenty.
what about the interior cottage happenings?
remote, off-site happenings?
so, where is this book?
if mike is waiting for this story to solidify,
he shouldn't. Nepahatia, could be a title
of book one. a perfect ending point to this
first installment. like whitley strieber's exploits,
this could be mike's and the owner's never-ending-story.

[jsb_swampfox]

I was wondering what you all think the reason for the lack of vocalization from Nephatia? I myself enjoyed the new update from mike. I was however, surprised at the lack of new vocal interaction. I also was wondering if you guys thought that Nephatia's little sister did that vocalization with mike before Nephatia spoke. The voice sounded more feminine to me, and I think Mike thought it might be her as well. I remember someone saying something in a comment, maybe from Mike's Youtube, about the lack of vocalization that will be on the next video. I am not sure though, I can not find the comment now. I am thinking Mike said something to that effect, He thought or felt like another sas was present.

[jimmer]

I was wondering what you all think the reason for the lack of vocalization from Nephatia? I myself enjoyed the new update from mike. I was however, surprised at the lack of new vocal interaction. I also was wondering if you guys thought that Nephatia's little sister did that vocalization with mike before Nephatia spoke. The voice sounded more feminine to me, and I think Mike thought it might be her as well. I remember someone saying something in a comment, maybe from Mike's Youtube, about the lack of vocalization that will be on the next video. I am not sure though, I can not find the comment now. I am thinking Mike said something to that effect, He thought or felt like another sas was present.

that was samos.
he contacted mike to see what was going on. (http://jandeane81.com/threads/317-Bigfoot-Vocalizations-2?p=18743&viewfull=1#post18743)

could the older sibling being a nanny, keeping nephatia inline?

and it does seem that it was nephie all throughout these latest
vocals. the first peep was high pitched, but sounds to have
the brother's chortling timber, IMHO.

[jsb_swampfox]

Ok, the latest pictures from Mike's latest video have inspired me to do some more research into this interdementional concept of existing in a multidimensional world we are clearly a part of and dont even realize it. The SAS and more than likely many many other being and creatures exist freely through multidimensional worlds. This has been the most intriguing aspect in all of this for me.

I had remembered finding some old fbi vault files that had been declassified for the public. Anyway, one in particular caught my attention back then and to me, has a relationship with this situation with Mike's habituation with the sas. http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO/UFO%20Part%201%20of%2016/view. Scroll down to page 22 and read the description # 8 on that page. Sorry guys I dont know how to do a screenshot, I hate sending you all all over the place to see my points. they are talking about ET's but, I think it's related.

this is the thing in particular that caught my attention. They are saying in this document that the et;s come from a place called the "Lokas and Talas", here is a definition of those terms.:http://www.babylon.com/definition/Loka/English

I cant help but wonder if this is the same for are hairy friends. So much to ponder here. I hope you all can see where I am going with this.

[jsb_swampfox]

ok thanks Jimmer, I remember now that you mention samos. Your right..Nephie has produced some very high pitch vocals as well

[Frances]

You are right about the lack of vocals from Nephatia Jeff.
I picked up on this also. I also had the impression that Nephatia was imitating Asentia and that he was in a strange mood, maybe a bit provocative that night.
Frances.