Secrets of the Vatican

[Sooz]

I believe this was released Feb 25 2014. I haven't watched this yet, have to rush out but wanted to post it.

It promises to be 'VERY' interesting.

My interest is also piqued, given just this morning, Cardinal Pell, (head of the Catholic Church in Australia), now moving to Rome to be right hand man to the Pope - suddenly announced the Catholic Church can now be sued for child sex abuse. This is a complete 360 turnaround.

Something is up!

What with the Karen Hudes latest interview and the so-called 'announcement' by Courtney Brown, it all seems to be dovetailing.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/secrets-of-the-vatican/

[Calabash]

Unfortunately the video is not available to us here in UK. Perhaps you can paraphrase the good bits for us . . . . .

[Sooz]

Unfortunately the video is not available to us here in UK. Perhaps you can paraphrase the good bits for us . . . . .

Here is a 'boil down':

http://www.fitsnews.com/2014/03/01/catholic-corruption/

[Sooz]

Well, well, well....

Just got home to sit down and watch, and POOF, it's gone, vanished! Wow...:mad:

Tried both links above and got a blank screen, so went to my original email where I got it, it opened! Yet when I clicked play, it says 'removed by the user'.

Hows about them apples eh? Must have been quite something.:scrhd:

I'll still keep hunting for it, but don't think I will have much luck.

It was working when I posted it a couple of hours ago, because I watched the first 5 minutes!

[The One]

Not sure if this is the same thing but this video was published last week

Published on Feb 27, 2014
Revealing documentary about the dirty secrets of the Roman Catholic Church. Scandals of the Vatican. This is a must see ! Viewers might easily imagine they've heard it all. Oh that. Why bother? Take everything you have ever heard about the Catholic Church and the global clergy child sexual abuse scandals, the dodgy Vatican bank, add in drug abuse, and multiply it all by ten. A primary insight is that Pope Benedict really did not step down from the papacy so much as flee the job.

No one could make up what this documentary reveals. For all of the horror on display, the reality is basic: arrogance, hubris and insularity will bring down any organization, even one ordained to do God's work on earth. A human organization manifests all human frailties. Allow it to make its own rules and hide, and the worst happens.

This is a tragedy that defies description. Abuse of people, power and a benefit of the doubt that goes with the job description. Pope Francis is viewed as the institutional savior who comes from far enough outside the Roman Curia and the inner sanctum to instigate and sustain change.

The only optimism in the documentary are references to a new beginning for a wounded church, and a religious crusade to save the church.

The cruel joke of priestly celibacy is the first fraud to erase. Allow priests to marry. Just for starters. Watch "Secrets of the Vatican." You might know the story line.For those who are not that clued up on this you have no clue about the depth of the shame.For those who have done their home work then you will


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbNGDr9Nmwo

[Sooz]

Thank you Malc! Working for me here in Oz.

Edit: Just started watching, not sure if it's the same one I was referencing in my original post. Seems to be another one....

[777]

It did make mainstream news here in the UK the week before last but it literally appeared for five nano seconds.....

[Sooz]

Thank you Malc! Working for me here in Oz.

Edit: Just started watching, not sure if it's the same one I was referencing in my original post. Seems to be another one....

Just watched the thing from start to finish. And while it is very interesting and worthwhile watching, it is not anything like the original I saw previewed.

In the original I posted, it was all about real life video testimonials of child sex abuse by the Catholic church system. Don't know how I can put it plainer than that. All deleted in this sanitised version.

Mmmm....

[shamanseeker]

I don't know what's going on because up until recently the Pope was saying that there would be no tolerance for paedophile priests then he started saying that people accusing priests of paedophilia were slanderers. He's even telling people that criticising is akin to murdering someone.

He isn't smiling as much as before and has stated he doesn't want to be treated anymore like a star! He looks different to me as well. I was wondering if maybe he's a double, a clone, possessed......?

[BabaRa]

I don't know what's going on because up until recently the Pope was saying that there would be no tolerance for paedophile priests then he started saying that people accusing priests of paedophilia were slanderers. He's even telling people that criticising is akin to murdering someone.

He isn't smiling as much as before and has stated he doesn't want to be treated anymore like a star! He looks different to me as well. I was wondering if maybe he's a double, a clone, possessed......?


More like a man who was enjoying the limelight of being saintly who has now been caught as the lowlife he really is.

They have several civil servant witnesses who have accused this new pope as a child trafficker.

refer to this video which was previously posted on TOT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwn2s2-oj7M

[777]

More like a man who was enjoying the limelight of being saintly who has now been caught as the lowlife he really is.





That was exactly my feelings too. I see a "man" (very loosely used term) who's number is up. I'm betting he didn't expect things to get quite as tricky quite as quickly after he took office?!

[sandy]

Quite a piece of propaganda for the church and the recent pope, tame-ing versus flame-ing the awareness of the evil within, IMHO.



Not sure if this is the same thing but this video was published last week

Published on Feb 27, 2014
Revealing documentary about the dirty secrets of the Roman Catholic Church. Scandals of the Vatican. This is a must see ! Viewers might easily imagine they've heard it all. Oh that. Why bother? Take everything you have ever heard about the Catholic Church and the global clergy child sexual abuse scandals, the dodgy Vatican bank, add in drug abuse, and multiply it all by ten. A primary insight is that Pope Benedict really did not step down from the papacy so much as flee the job.

No one could make up what this documentary reveals. For all of the horror on display, the reality is basic: arrogance, hubris and insularity will bring down any organization, even one ordained to do God's work on earth. A human organization manifests all human frailties. Allow it to make its own rules and hide, and the worst happens.

This is a tragedy that defies description. Abuse of people, power and a benefit of the doubt that goes with the job description. Pope Francis is viewed as the institutional savior who comes from far enough outside the Roman Curia and the inner sanctum to instigate and sustain change.

The only optimism in the documentary are references to a new beginning for a wounded church, and a religious crusade to save the church.

The cruel joke of priestly celibacy is the first fraud to erase. Allow priests to marry. Just for starters. Watch "Secrets of the Vatican." You might know the story line.For those who are not that clued up on this you have no clue about the depth of the shame.For those who have done their home work then you will


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbNGDr9Nmwo

[shamanseeker]

I think we are close here in Italy to a similar situation as in Britain when Jimmy Saville died. In the papers yesterday and today, they have informed everyone that the husband of the politician and granddaughter of Benito Mussolini and niece of Sofia Loren, Alessandra Mussolini, has been recorded on the phone making an appointment to meet an adolescent, underage girl who was working as a kind of escort with other girls of about the same age. I think this is the first time that a famous person has been named in the 'official' media as being involved in these crimes.