Plane gone 'missing' from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing [Archive]

Highland1

10th March 2014, 11:26

This is very high strangeness. Reports of people travelling on stolen passports. Apparently several people checked in with luggage, but didn't board the craft.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/no-wreckage-of-malaysia-flight-mh370-found-says-airline-20140310-hvgs6.html

The massive clue in the Malaysian airline mystery that isn�t getting enough attention
There is verifiable proof of a security breach on the missing Malaysian airplane that is only getting a short mention in the mainstream media

By John Vibes

MALAYSIA (INTELLIHUB) � The mainstream media has been saturated with coverage of the Malaysian airline disappearance, but recent developments which indicate that there was without a doubt a security breach on the plane are rarely being discussed. These details are being reported the media, but these facts are often buried at the bottom of articles and only mentioned in passing during news reports.

It has been reported that two passengers who were listed on the plane�s records, an Italian and an Austrian, were not even on the flight, but both reportedly had their passports stolen in Thailand. Now it has been revealed that both of these tickets were purchased in the same transaction.

Quietly tucked into the bottom of one of their articles, the BBC reported that:

�Interpol said at least two passports � one Austrian and one Italian � recorded in its stolen and lost travel documents database were used by passengers onboard the flight. The passports were added to the database after being stolen in separate incidents over the past two years��

However, Italy and Austria have said that none of their citizens were onboard the plane. All the while, the two passengers who used the passports in question appear to have bought their tickets together.

The tickets were bought from China Southern Airlines at identical prices, paid in Thailand�s baht currency, according to China�s official e-ticket verification system Travelsky. The ticket numbers are contiguous, which indicates the tickets were issued together.

http://youtu.be/V1A4579qHIA

Whilst it is too soon to speculate about any connection between these stolen passports and the missing plane, it is clearly of great concern that any passenger was able to board an international flight using a stolen passport listed in INTERPOL�s databases�, said Interpol Secretary General Ronald K. Noble in a statement.
Authorities worldwide are downplaying this clue.

�I�ve seen these reports about the passports. We�re looking into that, but we don�t have anything to confirm at this point,� U.S. deputy national security adviser Tony Blinken told CNN�s �State of the Union� on Sunday. �The reports certainly raise questions and concerns, and that�s exactly why we�re looking into them. But right now, it would be premature to speculate�, he said.

The Malaysian transport and defense minister Hishammuddin Hussein said authorities were looking at two more possible cases of suspicious identities. �All the four names are with me and have been given to our intelligence agencies�, he said. �We are looking at all possibilities.�

To make matters even more suspicious, the plane seemed to have veered off its course.

Malaysia�s air force chief Rodzali Daud told a press conference that it appeared to have gone off-route, another fact that is being ignored by authorities and the mainstream media.. �We are trying to make sense of this � The military radar indicated that the aircraft may have made a turn back and in some parts, this was corroborated by civilian radar�, he said.

Source: http://intellihub.com/massive-clue-malaysian-airline-mystery-isnt-getting-enough-attention/

Russ

Ealiss

10th March 2014, 15:51

It is a puzzle. :eyebrows:

First of all it is as if we are meant to know about the hijackers passports. Why bother with fake passports if you are putting a bomb in the plane. Everything says "hijacking".

Secondly it also feels likely that people will look to China and want them to own up to what they did to that plane.

BUT.... :eyebrows:

My personal wild theory is that Obama and Co got mad as *bleep* about the Chinese NOT wanting the US dollar anymore. Not only that, the Chinese are dumping all their US paper money and debt. The dollar is already crashing and some have said this was the final blow. Nothing can save the dollar now. So... is this a chess move to blackmail China?

The smooth operator feel that this has written all over it, smells like CIA. The media whore smell all over it is also, pardon me, very US/European media. Not that I am an export on the media of other nations outside that area. It is like a Hollywood movie. Totally rehearsed and dotted i's and crossed t's. Not a sloppy hijacking by doofus and dope.

So what if the plane turned around and circled over Vietnam. Are US and Vietnam relations good enough to land a plane like that? Yes. I think so. I googled and found this:

Vietnam and US relations have apparently been improving. I admit to have skimmed this but it headlines "Vietnam Gradually Warms Up to US Military" and goes on to report that: "Last month the United States and Vietnam held two important annual high-level security meetings in Washington: the 6th Political, Security, and Defense Dialogue and the 4th Defense Policy Dialogue." The article is dated November 6th 2013.

http://thediplomat.com/2013/11/vietnam-gradually-warms-up-to-us-military/

My thoughts are that if the US wanted to use a Vietnamese airbase to land on, they probably could.

I also tried to get some articles on China dumping the dollar.

(There was talk that Saddam Hussein stopped trading oil in dollars shortly before the US got rid of him.)

Headlines regarding China and the US dollar (You don't need to read the article.)

Nov 21, 2013, PBOC Says No Longer in China�s Interest to Increase Reserves

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-20/pboc-says-no-longer-in-china-s-favor-to-boost-record-reserves.html

Quote: "The People�s Bank of China said the country does not benefit any more from increases in its foreign-currency holdings, adding to signs policy makers will rein in dollar purchases that limit the yuan�s appreciation. "

and

Dollar dump : China just sold almost $50 billion in US Treasurys� But don�t panic just yet
http://qz.com/178532/china-just-sold-almost-50-billion-in-us-treasurys-but-dont-panic-just-yet/
Qoute: "China�s holdings of US Treasurys dropped to the lowest levels in two years after China dumped $47.8 billion in paper�equal to about 3.6% of its Treasury holdings as of November�bringing its total holdings to $1.27 trillion"...
[My footnote: This is just the beginning.]

Now... How would a hijacked plane with Chinese citizens benefit the US government? I do not know. They did say (in one of the videos posted) that: "Among the passengers were 24 Chinese artists and their families returning from in Malaysia for an art exchange program."

Could these people be the key? I have no idea if they are famous, ordinary, politically minded, seeking asylum, double agents... no clue. But they left with their families on that plane.

PS: I do wonder if their travel agency was called "CIA special travels" or some such.

(My first conspiracy post. I hope it's not to much.) :tiphat:

BabaRa

10th March 2014, 16:11

Sooz posted this link in #12.

Hope you don't mind Sooz, but I copied items over - for those who don't bother to go to links.

• Fact #1: All Boeing 777 commercial jets are equipped with black box recorders that can survive any on-board explosion

No explosion from the plane itself can destroy the black box recorders. They are bomb-proof structures that hold digital recordings of cockpit conversations as well as detailed flight data and control surface data.

• Fact #2: All black box recorders transmit locator signals for at least 30 days after falling into the ocean

Yet the black box from this particular incident hasn't been detected at all. That's why investigators are having such trouble finding it. Normally, they only need to "home in" on the black box transmitter signal. But in this case, the absence of a signal means the black box itself -- an object designed to survive powerful explosions -- has either vanished, malfunctioned or been obliterated by some powerful force beyond the worst fears of aircraft design engineers.

• Fact #3: Many parts of destroyed aircraft are naturally bouyant and will float in water

In past cases of aircraft destroyed over the ocean or crashing into the ocean, debris has always been spotted floating on the surface of the water. That's because -- as you may recall from the safety briefing you've learned to ignore -- "your seat cushion may be used as a flotation device."

Yes, seat cushions float. So do many other non-metallic aircraft parts. If Flight 370 was brought down by an explosion of some sort, there would be massive debris floating on the ocean, and that debris would not be difficult to spot. The fact that it has not yet been spotted only adds to the mystery of how Flight 370 appears to have literally vanished from the face of the Earth.

• Fact #4: If a missile destroyed Flight 370, the missile would have left a radar signature

One theory currently circulating on the 'net is that a missile brought down the airliner, somehow blasting the aircraft and all its contents to "smithereens" -- which means very tiny pieces of matter that are undetectable as debris.

The problem with this theory is that there exists no known ground-to-air or air-to-air missile with such a capability. All known missiles generate tremendous debris when they explode on target. Both the missile and the debris produce very large radar signatures which would be easily visible to both military vessels and air traffic authorities.

• Fact #5: The location of the aircraft when it vanished is not a mystery

Air traffic controllers have full details of almost exactly where the aircraft was at the moment it vanished. They know the location, elevation and airspeed -- three pieces of information which can readily be used to estimate the likely location of debris.

Remember: air safety investigators are not stupid people. They've seen mid-air explosions before, and they know how debris falls. There is already a substantial data set of airline explosions and crashes from which investigators can make well-educated guesses about where debris should be found. And yet, even armed with all this experience and information, they remain totally baffled on what happened to Flight 370.

• Fact #6: If Flight 370 was hijacked, it would not have vanished from radar

Hijacking an airplane does not cause it to simply vanish from radar. Even if transponders are disabled on the aircraft, ground radar can still readily track the location of the aircraft using so-called "passive" radar (classic ground-based radar systems that emit a signal and monitor its reflection).

Thus, the theory that the flight was hijacked makes no sense whatsoever. When planes are hijacked, they do not magically vanish from radar.

Conclusion: Flight 370 did not explode; it vanished

The inescapable conclusion from what we know so far is that Flight 370 seems to have utterly and inexplicably vanished. It clearly was not hijacked (unless there is a cover-up regarding the radar data), and we can all be increasingly confident by the hour that this was not a mid-air explosion (unless debris suddenly turns up that they've somehow missed all along).

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/044244_Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370_vanished.html# ixzz2vZomQGLV

Wow! . . talk about a conspiracy theory. A plane vanished!

ET's! or . . . . . .

does our military have that kind of technology? . .. and they're upset about what Ealiss has posted in #15 (and decided we'll show you).

Or are they lying about some of the facts i.e. radar.

Highland1

10th March 2014, 16:11

Great to see you getting stuck straight in Ealiss.
My gut feeling is the connection to the crash is that the passengers on the whole are Chinese thus sending a direct attack on the Chinese rather than any particular individuals.
Motive, as you already suggested may be a warning shot of any attempt by China to instigate a new world currency replacing the almost bankrupt dollar.
Who does the Us owe its greatest debts to?
Remember when Gaddafi was taken out after challenging the federal reserve with the African Gold Dinar?
The Russians may be the best chess players in the world but who pays for the chess pieces?

Russ

Ealiss

10th March 2014, 16:23

I do think the US might be in possession of anti radar equipment of some sort. They were very high up.

And I doubt the Chinese are trying to take over. They don't need to work so hard on that. The dollar is dead. They are just trying to save themselves and not go down with it. As I see it. Partly basing that statement on Clif High and his latest predictions (ALTA report).

Ealiss

10th March 2014, 16:24

Also : Thank you Highland :)

Spiral

10th March 2014, 20:23

The things that stand out to me so far is the lack of any mayday or signs of what might have happened & the apparent lack of debris (the black box is going to be at the bottom of the sea so they wont get a signal) and weirdest of all is the video of the radar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JtYApCrUDY

Whats with the "aircraft" that heads towards the plane in red, turns into a question mark, then back into a plane & shoots off at what must be at least mach 4 ????

No known fighter jet goes that fast ! Is this use of the "beam weapon" tech they are talking about rolling out (they've had for years) ?

Seikou-Kishi

10th March 2014, 21:03

There were several Americans on board.

More info here:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/seven-australians-among-227-passengers-feared-dead-after-malaysia-airlines-plane-goes-missing-20140308-hvgnx.html

Now it's a tragedy ;-)

Ealiss

10th March 2014, 21:04

It looks like it gains a white shadow and suddenly takes off at super speed.

Maybe my screen isn't good enough. I didn't notice the question mark. (Laptop.)

I keep feeling that this has to do with the artists and their families. I just hope they are all right.

Seikou-Kishi

10th March 2014, 22:42

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC9WAf3NqHY

Anything to do this perhaps? Just a thought....

Obama signs executive order against China = economic war?

Don't forget China owns trillions in US treasury bills.

"Secretly declared" is a contradiction in terms. These shadow government types could really do with an education. I might have to give them an ear-bashing one day when all of this is over lol.

777

11th March 2014, 09:25

So now there was an Iranian on board allegedly.

VERY convenient don't you think?

:yawn:

Ealiss

11th March 2014, 09:28

The One

11th March 2014, 09:31

Malaysia Plane CoverUp: Passengers’ Cell Phones Ringing, GPS Information Kept Secret

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/10690/images/imgres-3(5)(2).jpg

“Mystery” has turned to “Coverup” regarding the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, to the point that relations are outraged with officials for refusing to disclose what they know, especially after authorities tightened security around the hotel where the loved ones are, keeping them more in the dark, from the rest of the world.

Outrage over the Malaysia Airlines missing jet coverup and resulted in family members throwing objects at officials because they are hiding information learned about the plane that vanished three days ago.

Angry family members threw water bottles at an MAS spokesman and threatened to protest in front of the Malaysian embassy in China if the airline did not “disclose” the “truth,” according to International Business Times.

Chinese media reports several of the passengers’ mobile phones were connecting when called by relatives, but the calls were not picked up.

“This morning, around 11:40 [am], I called my older brother’s number twice, and I got the ringing tone,” said Bian Liangwei, sister of one of the passengers. At 2:00 pm, Bian called again and heard it ringing again.

“If I could get through, the police could locate the position, and there’s a chance he could still be alive.”

She has passed on the number to Malaysia Airlines and the Chinese police.

“The world is speculating whether the stolen passport holders were terrorists,” while Interpol asks why only a handful of countries world-wide took care to ensure persons possessing stolen passports are not boarding international flights, said Ronald Noble, secretary-general of Interpol on Sunday.

Relatives of the passengers are urging the authorities to search for the location of phones that rang using the Global Positioning System.

At a press conference in Beijing, however, MAS spokesman Ignatius Ong said one of the numbers that had been passed on to the airline’s command office in Kuala Lumpur failed to get through.

“I myself have called the number five times while the airline’s command centre also called the number. We got no answering tone,” said Ong.

A phone company in Singapore that was investigating this number said the number was out of credit. But that’s only one phone. Numerous relations have provided cell phone numbers of loved ones that they said ring when dialed.

China.org.cn reported 19 families signed a joint statement saying their family members’ cell phones connected, but the calls hung up. Relatives have asked Malaysia Airlines to reveal any information they might be hiding, seeking an explanation for the eerie phone connections. The relatives have complained that the Malaysia Airlines is not responding as actively as it should.

Debris and oil not from plane

As officials waited to test receovered debris thought to possibly be from the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 plane, secuirty tightened at the hotel where family and other loved ones of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 passengers have agonized over 48 hours.

Authorities tightened security yesterday morning at Everly Hotel outside Kuala Lumpur where families of passengers on missing plane continued their painful watch for news of loved ones and officials withheld from them the possibility that debris found was from the jet.

Late Sunday night, a Vietnamese search and rescue plane spotted possible fragments of the missing plane around 50 miles south-southwest of Vietnam’s Tho Chu island. Malaysia Airlines said late Sunday it had received no confirmation regarding the suspected debris. Volunteer workers in the Everly Hotel say Malaysia Airlines has not yet told the families about the sighted debris. Just as well, because it was another false alarm. Same with the oil slick spotted. According to fingerprints, the oil is not from the missing plane.

”We also don’t know,” said one member of Malaysia Airlines’ crisis management team. “It has not been confirmed (as Flight MH370 debris),” he said.

“A Malaysian team of investigators stands ready to travel to Vietnam or the crash site,” Gaurav Raghuvanshi reports from livestreaming. “But it’s waiting for a ‘positive’ confirmation, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, director general of Malaysia’s Department of Civil Aviation told The Wall Street Journal on Monday.”

Authorities in Vietnam claimed seeing parts such as life jackets and a door lining. It’s been confirmed, however, that those objects were not from the missing Boeing 777-200 jet that went off the radar over the Gulf of Thailand .

“We don’t know if anything has been recovered,” Mr. Azharuddin said, adding that his department is in constant touch with authorities in Vietnam.

Making matters worse, at 11.19 A.M. Malaysian time, the Associated Press reported that Vietnam said it could not locate the debris spotted from the air Sunday. Doan Huu Gia, chief of the search and rescue coordination center, said Monday that six planes and seven ships from Vietnam were searching for the object in the area where the possible plane parts were spotted but nothing had been found.

Ships and aircraft from over six nations including Malaysia, the U.S. and Singapore are scouring a wide area in the South China Sea where the plane was last seen on radar.

Meanwhile, 20 passengers on the missing plane are world-class electronic geeks for a major Defense contracting company that specializing in such things as weapons that disappear planes and ships for the battlefield.

They are employed by a company designing and manufacturing cutting edge electronic weaponry for the Department of Defense. Such weaponry includes those making it possible to vanish planes off the radar, as Deborah Dupr� reported this weekend in the article,

http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014/03/electronic-weaponry-hiding-malaysia-plane-24-suspects-on-board-2432744.html

This plane seems to have vanished into thin air.Those behind the scenes probably know exactly what went on

777

11th March 2014, 09:42

If this was a bait and switch kind of movie, the passengers would board the plane, taxi off to some remote area and be asked to leave the plane again. Meanwhile a rocket like thing or other super fast, remotely controlled thing, would be equipped with the (altered and exposed) black box of the plane and sent off on course, on time. Until it explodes and leaves no trace.

Meanwhile the passengers, having no clue, having given away mobile phones and all traceable stuff to the "authorities" who put it into a lead lined (?) box.

lol. If it were a movie, I might write it like that.

There is a voice inside of me saying they are alive and okay but... with these things, I find it difficult to trust my gut.

I hear you!

If I were to write a movie script it would go as follows: A Ukrainian revolution catalyses a Russian invasion while the West postulates aggressively. Meanwhile a 777 carrying some of the Russians' allies (Chinese) is deliberately shot down by the West and explained away as a phenomena while it frames an innocent Iranian (who conveniently happened to be a terrorist and conveniently is yet a further enemy of the West).

All the West needs to do now to provoke all out war is explain to the world WHY of WHY an Iranian would attack the Chinese?

Another great gaping chasm of a whole in their shoddy attempt at warmongering.

Ealiss

11th March 2014, 10:21

Posted by Malc. From the article:
Meanwhile, 20 passengers on the missing plane are world-class electronic geeks for a major Defense contracting company that specializing in such things as weapons that disappear planes and ships for the battlefield.

They are employed by a company designing and manufacturing cutting edge electronic weaponry for the Department of Defense. Such weaponry includes those making it possible to vanish planes off the radar, as Deborah Dupr� reported this weekend in the article,

http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014...d-2432744.html

Wow!

Curiouser and curiouser.

I did find an article on the artists but it all seems too strange with that idea of mine. Whereas the 20 world class experts sound like someone Dr. No would kidnap.

Ealiss

11th March 2014, 10:24

I hear you!

If I were to write a movie script it would go as follows: A Ukrainian revolution catalyses a Russian invasion while the West postulates aggressively. Meanwhile a 777 carrying some of the Russians' allies (Chinese) is deliberately shot down by the West and explained away as a phenomena while it frames an innocent Iranian (who conveniently happened to be a terrorist and conveniently is yet a further enemy of the West).

All the West needs to do now to provoke all out war is explain to the world WHY of WHY an Iranian would attack the Chinese?

Another great gaping chasm of a whole in their shoddy attempt at warmongering.

Yes, the powers that be really do enjoy ... is it called "Red Flag" events? I hope that no attacks will be made. That the US/Chinese/Russia issue will be kept as a paper battle. Words and decrees. No deaths.

Highland1

11th March 2014, 14:30

Okay lovely people, please don't shoot the messenger but all things being uncertain perhaps one should read the following channeled message.
We are old and wise enough to discern for ourselves the "implication" of this message.
So as always, you decide....

Breaking News – Ashtar identifies Ukraine UFO – Locates Flight 370 Survivors – Sirius UFO Brings World Peace – Channeler Dr. Kathryn E May – 3-11-14

Ashtar:* BREAKING NEWS!**** SIRIUS “UFO” BRINGS WORLD PEACE!

Channeled by: Kathryn E. May

Breaking * News!

************************************************** **********************************************

Hello, * all Beloved Earth Dwellers, it is I, Ashtar.* I have very good news to * tell you about our successful Double Trouble display over the Ukraine.* * You will appreciate the irony embedded in the Truth which is now being * revealed around the world.* We are whooping and hollering on the ships, * as you might say.

Many of * you have seen the video of the “cigar shaped UFO” over the Crimea – * the territory where Putin gathered his ships and ground troops to try to * “keep peace” by applying military force.* The video was seen * all over Russia as well as the rest of the world, and was claimed by the * Russian press to be a UFO.* You may have noticed it was then that Putin * pulled the Russian troops back “to barracks”.* He decided that * the sight of a 3,000 foot long UFO flying surveillance over the trouble spot * was not something he wanted to challenge.

http://youtu.be/XG76xkW5adI

All * might have died down, met as it was by the cold shoulder of the * cabal-controlled media, if it weren’t for the following release from the * Turner Radio Network.* I quote it here in its entirety for comic relief.

March * 8, 2014 — (TRN) — The United States has deployed a spectacular new military * asset in the skies over the Ukraine. The craft made its presence known on * March 6, in broad daylight, and it so baffled media and local residents, they * called it a “UFO.” Since the craft has now been publicly seen, TRN * is pleased to be able to report the development and deployment of the new * “Sky Dreadnought.” Video of the craft over Ukraine and further * details, below.

The Sky * Dreadnought is the most advanced military weapons system in the history of * human existence. Nothing on the face of the earth can even come close to * comparing. The ship, a long, cigar-shaped craft, is almost 3,000 feet long, * about the length of three aircraft carriers.

It * flies by virtue of a gravity-manipulation system, allowing it to operate at * any altitude – even into space – and return, without need of jet engines, * propellers, massive fuel tanks or rocket engines. All this is achieved by the * manipulation of earth’s gravity, which, for all intents and purposes, affords * unlimited motion possibilities.

Since * the craft manipulates gravity, there are ZERO gravitational effects upon the * crew or systems inside the craft. Instead of the craft moving despite * gravity, gravity itself moves *with* the craft. This means the craft can * maneuver at previously impossible angles and speeds without the crew * suffering any “G-forces.”

While * it’s maximum speed is classified, TRN can report the Sky Dreadnought can * easily travel in excess of ten thousand miles per hour inside earth’s * atmosphere, or stop and hover — all of it totally silently. Not only can it * achieve these amazing speeds, it can do so almost instantaneously, making the * craft totally untouchable by any weapons system on earth.

The * exterior of the craft is coated with trillions of nanites, so technologically * advanced, it cannot be tracked by radar, cannot be locked-onto by fire * control radar of any type, cannot be tracked by infra-red or other * heat-seeking weapons. These nanites are not only part of the anti-radar * features of the craft, they are also part of the defensive * “light-bending” visual stealth, communications and weapons systems.

For * defensive purposes, the nanites can be used to view and transfer images seen * on one side of the craft, to the other side, meaning the craft can seem to * “disappear” to the naked eye.

For * communications, other nanites direct all electromagnetic emissions to the * sky, making it impossible for ground or air-based radio-tracking or * communication interception.

As to * weaponry, the Sky Dreadnought does not use any conventional weapons. All of * its weapons are a type of pulse-plasma beams which, when seen by the naked * eye, appear to be blueish-white, focused bolts of lighting. The weapons were * first used on an experimental basis in the second Iraq war, where prototypes * were tank-mounted, and were seen melting cars, trucks and buses to the shock * and horror of the Iraqi troops who witnessed their use. The weapons operate * 360 degrees vertically and 360 degrees horizontally without any blind spots. * Nothing can escape the crafts’ weapons and no man-made object on earth can * withstand being hit by the beams. Metals turn molten and melt in seconds; * concrete is reduced to powder instantly. Human bodies shrivel to burnt/melted * hulks the size of infants, in less than one second.

If * attacked, the systems on board the craft can engage a staggering number of * threats simultaneously; literally thousands of attacking targets can be wiped * out of existence before they even get close to the craft. While the range of * its plasma weapons is classified, TRN can report the craft has the ability to * attack any target from horizon to horizon, no matter the altitude of the * craft! Given this ability, there isn’t a weapon on earth that can be be * launched at or used against the Dreadnought without the attack being detected * and destroyed.

Making * the craft all the more amazing is that once its weapons are used, the area in * which they were used is completely safe to enter. No long-term radiation or * other health hazard exists. This being the case, the craft can go in, utterly * flatten an entire country, and the area it conquers will be ready for * re-population and re-development by the United States immediately after the * confrontation.

Believe * it or not, the craft is based at an undersea base in an ocean. The craft can * operate underwater, but there are still some unresolved issues in using its * weapons while it is submerged; the weapons work, but anything even close to * the area they are used is also affected by the dispersion of the plasma, * which has unintended consequences for innocent life forms in the area.

It took * more than 25 years and literally trillions of dollars to develop this craft. * Those claiming the Pentagon “cannot account for” trillions of * dollars, can now figure out where that money went.

AN * AMERICAN WORLD ORDER

You’ve * heard of the “United States of America?” Get ready for the United * States of Earth.**[Ashtar:**Read:NESARA]* There will be a * “new world order” and it will be American.

The * presently existing nations of the world have proved themselves uneducated, * petty and barbaric; they have lost the right to be sovereign independent * states. As will be displayed shortly in Crimea, once Russia misbehaves too * much and is utterly humiliated when battle begins, the * “one-world-government” that’s been in the works in the UN will * suddenly turn out to be American; because the rest of the world will have no * choice.

Five * days ago, when this web site ran a story announcing the deployment of a U.S. * aircraft carrier strike group toward the Black Sea over the Ukrainian * situation, many were critical, claiming it to be a hoax. Yet days later, that * carrier strike group appeared off the coast of Greece. The final paragraph in * that story stated in-part: “. . . the U.S. is also deploying another * weapons system, which has been successfully tested, which can knock the S-400 * out of action. TRN is not revealing the nature of that system for obvious * reasons.” The new “Sky Dreadnought” is that weapon system.

“Below * is video,* (video above), taken March 6, 2014, showing the Sky Dreadnought over the skies of * Ukraine. It is reported by Ukraine media as a UFO. It is not a UFO, it is an * American warship; and from today, the world will never be the * same.******* – TRN”

(The * original video has been removed, but another source has put it out, with the * following comment:
“Have * you noticed every time a country is taken over by the Cabal, UFOs * appear?”)

Ashtar* -

Yes, * indeed, Beloved Ones,*there was a massive surveillance ship over the Ukraine, * but it was not developed by the U.S. government in secret.**It belongs * to the Sirius Star System Fleet, under the Ashtar Command.* I could not * resist –*I took the helm myself to carry out this mission, and what a * pleasure it was!

Now, * you may be wondering about the above “press release.”* I must * admit to having come up with the rather catchy name, the “Sky * Dreadnought”. Of course it is a bit of a play on words, since it is * intended to sound terrifyingly dreadworthy, but the title can also be read as * Dread Not.* We are rather proud of the science fiction bit of (group) * writing which describes very accurately, if a bit dramatically, the actual * capabilities of the ship, which Kathryn has described as “totally * awesomely awesome.”

We are * especially pleased with the outcome of our efforts.* There will now rage * a debate across the world about the true origins of this craft (thanks to our * Turner boots on the ground.)** If it is truly “the most * advanced military weapons system in the history of human existence,” and * it belongs to the U.S., the rest of the world is completely under the control * of the United States, as the article says.* If it doesn’t belong to the * U.S. (and no one else has claimed it) then what???* It has to be a UFO!

Does * the military of every country in the world dare ignore the possibility that * this is truly a game-changer?* That every weapon known to man is now * completely and utterly obsolete, and that any form of military resistance is * now completely unthinkable?* What if it does belong to the U.S.?* * What if it doesn’t?

Can you * picture the shouting and chest-pounding in the board rooms and war rooms of * the cabal-sponsored military elite?* Can you imagine their red-faced * frustration at learning they are completely impotent?* There is nothing * their money can buy that can forcefully re-establish their power this time.

(On the * deck of the New Jerusalem you can hear the strains of the wonderful * “March of the Tin Soldiers” from the Nutcracker.)

Their * only recourse is to pretend that they are unaware or disbelieving about the * presence of the great ship.* Of course it will be as easy to ignore as the * proverbial elephant in the living room.* Given the stranglehold on the * media, they might have succeeded eventually, because of the short memory of * the public, but we have thought of that too.

You may * also have heard about the airliner which vanished in Malaysia.* Flight * 370 was just off the eastern coast over shallow water when it wavered in the * air then suddenly dropped from 35,000 feet to 0 and disappeared.* At the * same time, radar showed a “plane” which suddenly accelerated to 4 * or 5 times the speed of any other craft, hovered in one place, then suddenly * vanished from the radar screen, seconds before the airliner also disappeared.

I am * very pleased to tell you all that the passengers and crew of the airliner are * safe and happy in a secret location.* There were several ships in the * area, and the maneuver was carried out effortlessly.* It is very * serendipitous that the airplane carried a large number of Lightworkers from * many countries who are delighted and very enthusiastic about the proposal we have * made to them, that they be used as “hostages” to expedite the * following demands:

Their * release will be contingent upon an immediate global agreement that all * countries now in possession of any weapons of mass destruction relinquish * them to be evaporated forthwith.

1. * NESARA law will be presented for signature to all the world’s leaders * -** representatives of every country on the U.N. charter – and will * be immediately enacted.* We anticipate that President Barack Obama will * be first signatory on the document.

2. * There will be declared a Global Celebration of Peace for every person on the * planet, regardless of race, religion or nationality, to be marked by one * month of singing, dancing and public performances in every village, town, and * city on Earth. All expenses are to be underwritten with the funds which would * have been allocated for military expenditures.

3. All * military personnel will be paid full salary for three months after they turn * in all weapons and uniforms and return to rebuild their own families and * communities.* After that, no expenditure by any individual or nation * will be permitted for any military activity or equipment whatsoever.* * This will free governing bodies to use their resources for infrastructure, * water and sanitary systems, sustainable agriculture, and educational and * social programs to elevate the conditions for all their citizens.

The * people of Planet Earth can also look forward to the sharing of the technology * behind the propulsion system for the marvelous space craft they will soon observe * over all the major cities of the world.* We wish for them to become * familiar and comfortable with our presence, which they will soon associate * with freedom, good times, free energy, and global prosperity.

We * promised you Disclosure, Dear Ones.* Well, here it is.* It may take * a few days for the inevitability of this massive change to sink into the * consciousness of all the citizens of the planet, but I assure you, it has * already begun.* We will continue to display our presence to the world, now * that the U.S. has been declared the supreme power over all.* It will * cause increased confusion in the ranks of the elite, but we are certain the * citizenry will adapt very quickly to the fact of permanent and lasting peace * on Earth.

Here on * the New Jerusalem, we rejoice with a gentler kind of drum beat.* We * enjoy adding our own lyrics as we sing the child’s song that ends like this:

“I played my drum for Him, pa rum pum pum pum

I played my best for Him, pa rum pum pum pum,

rum pum pum pum, rum pum pum pum,

Then He smiled at me, pa rum pum pum pum

Me and my drum.”

Yes, we * will all be marching to a different Drummer – the pulse of the Universe, the * breath of our beloved Prime Creator, with our Star Brothers and Sisters at * our side.* We will rejoice together in the sparkling Light of the New * Golden Age.

I am * your brother, in Love, Joy and Laughter, Ashtar.

Transcribed * by Kathryn E. May, March 11, 2014, 12 am, High Falls, NY

Ascertain what you will from this as I know channeled messages cause discord amongst many, especially out of concern for the families of the missing passengers.

Like everything else we post here it is posted to invite more debate.

Russ

norman

11th March 2014, 14:47

I remember how the "Sandy Hook" event went from blood and horror to being a complete fiction from start to finish.

Can anyone really prove this flight ever existed, in the first place?

A few weeks ago we were told that huge craft had arrived at the moon after being seen several months earlier far away near Jupiter, or was it Mars.

If there are any more sky mysteries over the coming weeks, I'll have to assume that operation Blue Beam has been activated. That is, a trail of mysteries and hints and strange phenomena that will get a conspiracy theory going to build up for a full on "alien invasion".

Mars Planitia

11th March 2014, 15:09

Is a plane really missing i questioned myself? I first had my doubts. Was this a Lame Stream Media False Flag Event, I thought to myself. But If so, my prayers go out to the passengers and crew.

Fred Steeves

11th March 2014, 15:15

Hello, * all Beloved Earth Dwellers, it is I, Ashtar.*

Ashtar huh? :whstl:

The One

11th March 2014, 15:16

I bet in a few days or a week they will say they have found some wreckage. Enough time as gone by now for them to make something up and plant something to fool the masses.How many military ships are involved

Ealiss

11th March 2014, 15:32

The Ashtar command stuff. I had to stop reading after this:

You’ve * heard of the “United States of America?” Get ready for the United * States of Earth.**[Ashtar:**Read:NESARA]* There will be a * “new world order” and it will be American.

The * presently existing nations of the world have proved themselves uneducated, * petty and barbaric; they have lost the right to be sovereign independent * states.

That is racist, ignorant, insane... and the list goes on. Interesting that they are telling the self righteous that NEW WORLD ORDER (Illuminati) will be ruled by the Americans.

I better stop but... No. No, I will regret this but...

Well first of all, I assume that everyone here is smart enough not to buy that Ashtar Annunaki/Hathor New World Order stuff. So forget about that a minute. It just shows that it is the same thing that Courtney is eluding at (he did mention Sitchin).

That aside. I read the latest ALTA report from Clif High and the Internet bot that figures out what is likely to happen. What is set to happen is a collapse of America. Cops, military, emergency personnel going home. Quitting their job after weeks of no pay. Riots for food most likely. Almost all Americans will be homeless. He could see signs that some would hide out in shopping malls that closed and other big buildings. There will be traveling gangs. America isn't about to be the boss of the world. It is about to be as poor as the starving parts of Africa.

There's more but.. Man! The hubris of Ashtar command. :vom:

Susan

11th March 2014, 16:14

Ashtar?? LMFAO! Come now, we are not fools. We are intelligent beings (I like to think we are). I truly believe most of the passengers are alive and well while a few did not make it. Where they are is the mystery. Someone is hiding the truth. That is my impression.

Ealiss

11th March 2014, 16:22

Fred Steeves

11th March 2014, 16:29

I better stop but... No. No, I will regret this but...

That's usually the point where it's time to go for a little walk or something before posting lol, but welcome to TOT by the way Eallis.

I read the latest ALTA report from Clif High and the Internet bot that figures out what is likely to happen.

At the risk of taking this thread too far off topic, I've found Cliff High's bot to be about as accurate as day 15 on a 15 day weather forecast.

Now, I wonder what really happened to that plane?

Cheers

TimeLab

11th March 2014, 16:30

.....That aside. I read the latest ALTA report from Clif High and the Internet bot that figures out what is likely to happen. What is set to happen is a collapse of America. Cops, military, emergency personnel going home. Quitting their job after weeks of no pay. Riots for food most likely. Almost all Americans will be homeless. He could see signs that some would hide out in shopping malls that closed and other big buildings. There will be traveling gangs. America isn't about to be the boss of the world. It is about to be as poor as the starving parts of Africa.

There's more but.. Man! The hubris of Ashtar command. :vom:

I don't buy either. If y'all are going to keep repeating this doomy collapse of America fear thing, I'm going to keep repeating the counterpoints.

The reason America won't 'collapse' is that it rips the rug out from under all the people in power and all their cronies doing them favors. They have worked long and hard to set up a huge, complex and very well working slave system to keep the money coming in and their control set in stone. It serves no purpose for them to collapse it.

Right now big corporation plans are in place for many years in advance and going full speed ahead within America. Google is building a huge new complex, auto manufacturers, new sports stadiums, infrastructure, military,... whatever, all of them... likely deep insiders with big money putting it where it will assuredly make more are not in the least slowing down.

This is why any collapse, riots, massive homeless, shut malls, blah blah blah is not going to happen.

The more pressing question is who is pushing this disinfo, who is buying into it and what purpose is it serving?

Sorry for getting so OT. The flight is a very curious thing, especially for so avoiding using the word terrorist for a change.

Fred Steeves

11th March 2014, 16:49

I have an idea here. We suddenly have what I consider two very interesting subjects going on in the same thread, and probably some others find them both interesting as well. Would someone care to split the baby so to speak, and start a new thread for our newcomer topic? I think that would be pretty cool.

Cheers

norman

11th March 2014, 16:52

errr...what's the 2nd topic?

downfall or not of Amerika, or cliff high's 15 day weather forecasts :)

Ealiss

11th March 2014, 16:53

Points taken Fred Stevees and TimeLab. Will bear in mind and be more critical. (And not post when I lose my temper.)

Fred Steeves

11th March 2014, 17:00

errr...what's the 2nd topic?

downfall or not of Amerika, or cliff high's 15 day weather forecasts :)

Good point Norman. I was personally thinking of something along the lines of who we trust as sources of information, and why. Same thing for those we do *not* trust as sources of information.

Post Edit:

Points taken Fred Stevees and TimeLab. Will bear in mind and be more critical. (And not post when I lose my temper.) Your post was fine Ealiss, I actually kind of like that certain edge to some of your posts, rather refreshing. Just thinking about talking to whatever person face to face helps us to keep those appropriate boundaries when posting. I was just talking in general as to when it may be time to step away from the keyboard for a while. It applies to all of us by the way. :eyebrows:

Chickadee

11th March 2014, 17:18

Good point Norman. I was personally thinking of something along the lines of who we trust as sources of information, and why. Same thing for those we do *not* trust as sources of information.

That's exactly it!!
See, my husband- he's right into watching the news and sports and all that blah, but...
I'm quite certain a couple days before the plane disappeared or even the day before, he had CNN on one evening and terrorism and shoe bombers on planes were being discussed. I took note and said, "wtf?? You think there's gonna be another so called terror attack? Why is this being discussed?" I honestly felt like they were priming the viewers up for an event without them even acknowledging it.

Then last night, my husband says " why haven't they brought up any Russia/ Ukraine news. It seems like since the plane went missing so did Putin from the media."

My words," it's a distraction."

You should have seen the look on my husband's face when he said, you might just be right"

Lol!

F'd up world this place is..

BabaRa

11th March 2014, 17:19

Just getting caught up.

Has anyone mentioned yet, what a wonderful diversion this is?

From what?

Ukraine . . . . money markets . . . . or ??

norman

11th March 2014, 17:23

Then last night, my husband says " why haven't they brought up any Russia/ Ukraine news. It seems like since the plane went missing so did Putin from the media."

Lol!

F'd up world this place is..

The US/Russia show has reached a point where they have to back down while saving their faces. Best way to get it done is to order up another agenda trick that's ready to roll and will take the spotlight off them while they BACK DOWN.

Highland1

11th March 2014, 19:50

False flag event forthcoming?

Just in...

http://youtu.be/cLdi7vIAjR4

Russ

777

11th March 2014, 20:03

Woah! Good catch Russ! I'm not being divisive saying this but I'll say it again anyway lol: should we be averting our gaze? Someone here is going to dig up a synchronous event happening elsewhere soon. Should we be looking for that? It's important to stay one step ahead of these beasts rather than be reactive in my view. That's not a chastisement, I'm just as guilty!

BabaRa

11th March 2014, 21:29

Definitely skullduggery involved here - questions is by whom and for what reason.

One thought: Did China make some recent demands money-wise on the US - and this is how we are blackmailing them?

Definitely a side show that is keeping attention away from what is happening in Ukraine and Venezuela.

When Interpol comes out and says: It definitely is not terrorism - I say WHAT? How can they say anything is definite until the plane is found.

Sparky

11th March 2014, 22:24

Hi BabaRa:

When Interpol comes out and says: It definitely is not terrorism - I say WHAT? How can they say anything is definite until the plane is found.

Because Interpol knows it had nothing to do with terrorism; it's murder. The target was 20 employees from an Austin, Texas company.

Human life means nothing (except theirs) to these filthy pedophiles who have been selling out humanity since the dawn of man for their personal financial gain assisting their "big head" evil lords goals.

We must stop viewing these puppet leaders as esteemed. They do not achieve a position of power without the use of blackmail to keep them in line.

One of the many root companies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNLMtgI7hU&list=PLpRLfhiBVMmAgmwaXHRP4XFq-7wy_wgS5

http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/03/1878-marine-links-mi-3-mycroft-zigbee.html#more

Calabash

11th March 2014, 23:17

Ashtar huh? :whstl:

That's usually the point where it's time to go for a little walk or something before posting lol, but welcome to TOT by the way Eallis.

At the risk of taking this thread too far off topic, I've found Cliff High's bot to be about as accurate as day 15 on a 15 day weather forecast.

Now, I wonder what really happened to that plane?

Sigh :) - I really do love you Fred . . . . . lol.

Sparky

11th March 2014, 23:55

The Bible says: "Be ye transformed by the renewal of your mind". How can anyone do this if they hold on to what they were told, or what they believe is the truth? They can’t and will argue with you due to their lack of knowledge concerning the past history.

Visiting Able Danger website before gaining knowledge how SERCO (not their name when covert corporations/foundations established) has been an octopus of control for their New World Order.

If you don’t take the time to listen/watch to all the videos in the link I posted, Abel Danger’s material will confuse you and you will remain in the dark jumping to one “disinformation site” to another.

You have the responsibility to educate yourself as no one will spoon feed you “history”.
Have you ever studied the Bolshevik Revolution? There were 2 of them; not one. The people were tricked and got more of what they initially revolted against. It could happen again if we do not take the time to educate ourselves with THE ONE TRUTH.

Case in point, listen to this one…No. 9 on the list. Nicola Tesla invented the radio; not Marconi. The Supreme Court finally acknowledged 1943, the same year Tesla died, that he invented the radio. Philo Farnsworth invented television (anyone remember PHILCO after WWII?); RCA stole it. RCA changed their name to SERCO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7oLaL7EaPg&list=PLpRLfhiBVMmAgmwaXHRP4XFq-7wy_wgS5

Please listen/watch all these videos that others took the time to make to educate you WHAT HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE ALL OVER THE WORLD. Stop living a lie and learn; then start with your own family so they can educate others. This is just a small portion of the lies we have been told; unfortunately many believed to be true.

No lie can last forever and the time is now to insure your children/grandchildren can create a world of love and unity for all mankind. All religions, political parties, focus on individual ethnic races or national identity, man vs. women, their need to always create an enemy were all developed and designed by the "big head rulers" with clever lies/misinformation to separate us and hold us in fear and disunity.

Here’s the complete SERCO play list again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNLMtgI7hU&list=PLpRLfhiBVMmAgmwaXHRP4XFq-7wy_wgS5

Highland1

12th March 2014, 00:06

One thought: Did China make some recent demands money-wise on the US - and this is how we are blackmailing them?

You might be on the money there Babs....
U.S Defaulted in October, 2013 REALLY ? China to Purchase the Federal Reserve

In essence, China has been slowly buying up the Federal Reserve for some time now.* If you can call it a purchase.* Its more of a negotiation over assuming*the liabilities of both the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury.

http://youtu.be/Dol4qo2o8No

http://www.tatoott1009.com/2014/01/21/u-s-defaulted-in-october-2013-really-china-to-purchase-the-federal-reserve/

Russ

Sparky

12th March 2014, 03:21

The target - 20 employees of Freescale Semiconductor, a Zigbee development company, many divisions with some in advanced military technologies based in Austin, Texas.

Two countries – Malaysia and China, not allied with US threating NSA superiority turf.
Malaysia military tracked the plane an hour after it vanished from Civilian Radar.

This story is a hoax. Look at their legs on the picture. Someone screwed up. Photo shopped.
They love to blame Iran. That is also a big tip off. When will they ever learn that well worn story don't sell...or as they say in Texas: "That dog won't hunt".
http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/se-asia/story/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-one-passengers-stolen-passport-19-year-o
Caption: A Malaysian police official displays photographs of the two men who boarded the Malaysia Airlines MH370 flight using stolen European passports to the media at a hotel near Kuala Lumpur International Airport in Sepang on March 11, 2014. -- PHOTO: AFP
http://www.straitstimes.com/sites/straitstimes.com/files/imagecache/story-gallery-featured/20140311/rypassport11314e.jpg

It’s looking more and more like an AWACS Hijack, the plane has landed somewhere, (probably tucked away in a large hanger in a country with a large crematorium) cell phone calls to many of the passengers worked.

Please pray for the innocence of the passengers and crew.

Sooz

12th March 2014, 05:25

Of the 20 passengers from Freescale Semiconductors, a company in Austin/Texas, is involved in electronic warfare and CLOAKING technology. Oy yoy yoy....

Perhaps these souls are still alive....

http://www.examiner.com/article/malaysia-jet-hidden-by-electronic-weaponry-20-ew-defense-linked-passengers

Sooz

12th March 2014, 07:36

Sparky, what is an AWACS attack?

Or can anyone tell me? Sigh...I know you are all asleep up there in the northern hemisphere, or perhaps some owls are awake?

Ealiss

12th March 2014, 11:56

This could just be my mind but when I dowse on this, I see that people are alive. Crew. Passengers. They are going to be held for a while and the plan is to release some of them at least, back to their homes after what feels like a few months. Not sure. Yesterday I felt that some felt bad from a kind of electricity or vibration used. I hope it's true. I don't sense any malevolence or wish to harm.

If the above is true, then I think it is more a result of the dangerous situation in America. Remember all the bankers suiciding and all the bank CEO's resigning? Maybe the banks are not the only places that are dangerous to be. Maybe they had to get out before something bad happened to them.

I should get back to work. lol.

KosmicKat

12th March 2014, 12:20

Sparky, what is an AWACS attack?

Or can anyone tell me? Sigh...I know you are all asleep up there in the northern hemisphere, or perhaps some owls are awake?

Airborne Warning and Control System: the simplest definition is a flying military command-post although I would be surprised if they aren't much more sophisticated than a radar and radio information-gathering system in the air these days.

Chickadee

12th March 2014, 23:39

Here's a link to some new info I stumbled across..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3235735#ixzz2vmzFdLbD

norman

13th March 2014, 00:30

Here's a link to some new info I stumbled across..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3235735#ixzz2vmzFdLbD

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3236241.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/MAIN-Chinese-Government-Satelite-missing-plane-3236241.jpg

Sooz

13th March 2014, 01:21

Just found this from Jim Stone. Jam-packed with all sorts of info:

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

norman

13th March 2014, 01:37

Just found this from Jim Stone. Jam-packed with all sorts of info:

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

That looks like a very logical breakdown of the situation.

This line screams the loudest to me:

"8. The cell phones are ringing, and the only organization in the world that can say where they are is the NSA. WHY THE SILENCE?"

Tonz

13th March 2014, 02:47

Thanks sooz ,very informiitive link.

Calz

13th March 2014, 04:55

That looks like a very logical breakdown of the situation.

This line screams the loudest to me:

"8. The cell phones are ringing, and the only organization in the world that can say where they are is the NSA. WHY THE SILENCE?"

I am no cell phone expert (I have actually refused to ever even carry one ...) and I would be the last to have full confidence in MSM to tell us the "truth".

However ... I'll throw this one out there for you all to consider ...

_________________

'Phantom call' theory dismissed by experts

By Euan McKirdy, CNN
updated 8:19 AM EDT, Wed March 12, 2014

(CNN) -- The mystery of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 appeared to deepen as reports emerged that passengers' cell phones continued to ring long after the flight went missing Saturday.

After the torment of not knowing what has happened to their loved ones, relatives of MH370 passengers had resorted to calling their phones, and were greeted with ringtones.

The aircraft disappeared unexpectedly from tracking early Saturday. No distress call from the pilots was received, and search efforts to date have not yielded any conclusive results, only adding to the uncertainty surrounding the fate of the Beijing-bound flight.

Speculation quickly mounted on social media that these "phantom calls" amounted to evidence that the flight had not crashed, as has been widely assumed.

Aerial view of search is 'reality check' "Frustrated! ... There are reports from family members that phone calls to their missing loved ones have 'rung through,' indicating the phones aren't on the bottom of the ocean," one Facebook user surmised.

However, technology industry analyst and "E-Commerce Times" columnist, Jeff Kagan told CNN that no conclusions can be reached concerning the ringing phones.

When a cell phone rings, he told "The Situation Room," it first connects with the network and attempts to locate the end-user's phone.

"If it doesn't find the phone after a few minutes, after a few rings, then typically, it disconnects and that's what's happening," he said.

"So, they're hearing ringing and they're assuming it's connecting to their loved ones, but it's not. It's the network sending a signal to the phone letting them know it's looking for them."

Kagan told Wolf Blitzer that the technology meant he couldn't speculate on what ringing phones in this situation could mean.

"Just because you're getting ringing, just because the signs that we see on these cell phones, that's no proof that there's any -- that's just the way the networks work."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/mh370-phone-theory-debunked/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

Sooz

13th March 2014, 07:13

I've never heard of Jim Stone before, although Kerry Cassidy has interviewed him. (Don't know how I missed that one).

I'm trying to find an mp3 link of the interview she did. I've emailed but haven't heard back.

Sounds like an interesting guy and I'd like to know more.

Does anyone know how to transform vids into audio mp3 links? I've tried, but I'm all clapped out, lol...

...and you all know what I'm like with computer stuff...:cracky:

Any help is welcome from this little possum.;)

Sooz

Calz

13th March 2014, 07:37

The Stone piece regarding the AWACs theory is as legit as anything else out there right now. Makes you think.

I was simply offering up something to consider regarding the cell phone stories.

Calz

13th March 2014, 08:18

Sooz

13th March 2014, 08:55

Hmmmm ... take link for story.

_________________

Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

Engine Data Suggest Malaysia Flight Was Airborne Long After Radar Disappearance

http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwMzExNDMyWj

That is just bizarre! Same content coming through here in Oz in MSM. It's almost like they want to confuse everyone with the information.

Flying 4 or 5 hours AFTER it fell off the radar? Did it even have enough fuel for that, seeing it was flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - not that long a flight. (A short one for us Ozzies).

I just hope the passengers are alive somewhere and at least are being fed and watered. It must be hell to be a relative of one of the passengers and have no clue what is going on and being fed BS news day after day.

Those passengers need our prayers and thoughts right now.

Calz

13th March 2014, 08:58

Look at the map of newly extended range (based on the engine data).

Interestingly ... on the edge ... Beijing.

Hmmm ...

Yet another possibility although that would counter the Stone story if the plane had changed course as the Malaysian defense radar (allegedly) suggests.

(gotta be Perth!!!) :hiding:

Sooz

13th March 2014, 09:16

I just tried twice to post something, and my comp crashed. Twice. What I tried to post has not posted.

Don't think I will try again.

LOL! Perth! Well, it is close by...

Thank heavens I'm on the opposite side.

Calz

13th March 2014, 10:54

Story now being denied ... yet they are not offering any "evidence" to verify (at least publically).

_____________

Officials dispute report that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 kept flying for hours

By Jethro Mullen, CNN
updated 5:49 AM EDT, Thu March 13, 2014

Reports suggesting the missing Malaysia Airlines plane kept flying for four hours after its last reported contact are inaccurate, Malaysia's acting Transportation Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said Thursday.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/13/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Sooz

13th March 2014, 11:02

So much zigging and zagging. Like I said before, so much disinformation trying to confuse.

Trying to post something else but not having much luck, will try again....

Sooz

13th March 2014, 11:10

Posting this real quick, while I can,
Sooz.

Bolded words are mine, not Jim Stone's'.

From Jim Stone's website - UPDATE:

Here is a post worthy mail that is completely un verified. Discern for yourself. I have my doubts, but people should probably get onto this one anyway.
Someone just sent me this – I don’t know the source so I can’t link it.
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Rothschild, Freescale, Patent, Murder and a missing plane, what do all have in common? Jacob Rothschild, Murderer This is how the elites get richer and richer, by any means available including murder. This is a story about greed, wealth, power and world domination. Have you pieced together the puzzle of missing flight 370 to Beijing China ?? If not, here are your missing pieces. Patents Patents Patents and the wealth they bring.

[link to http://www.4-traders.com

Four days after a missing flight, a patent is approved by the Patent Office for maximizing dies on a wafer. 4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX. Patent is divided up on 20% increments to 5 holders. Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%) Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%) Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%) Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%) Freescale Semiconductor (20%) If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of the deceased if not disputed in a will. If 4 of the 5 dies, then the remaining 1 Patent holder gets 100% of the wealth of the patent. That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.

Who owns Freescale Semiconductor ?? Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone who owns Freescale.

Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane.

As all 4 Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane. Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs. However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved. Thus, Rothschild gets 100% of Patent once Patent holders declared deceased. Rothschild, you are an evil *******

My comment:

A little semiconductor manufacturing background -

Chips are made 100 or so at a time on a wafer of silicon. Each individual area a chip is made within is called a die. Silicon suitable for advanced chips is very expensive. To maximize dies on a wafer means that a way was discovered and patented to get more chips out of a wafer, and anything additional is pure profit. SO it would have been a money making patent. I think the above is something to consider,

but I don't think that is all there is to this story.

norman

13th March 2014, 12:42

"So, they're hearing ringing and they're assuming it's connecting to their loved ones, but it's not. It's the network sending a signal to the phone letting them know it's looking for them."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/mh370-phone-theory-debunked/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

Oh, that may be so, I always thought that the network went straight to voicemail if the phone was not responding, and ringing tone was returned for a while only if the phone was detected but not yet answered.

Also, a 'live' mobile phone is constantly pinging the network looking for cell towers/hubs. This way, the network knows where to send a signal to it. If there is a enough reason to believe the phones are live there is enough reason to believe we are not being told the truth about any of this. The agencies know a lot more about all this than they are telling us.

oh, also2, The NSA can track a phone even if it's switched off, as long there is some battery power left.

Highland1

13th March 2014, 13:56

Missing Malaysia Flight Captured and Flown to Mystery Location?

US investigators think that Malaysian Airlines flight 370 remained airborne for four more hours after vanishing from its last recorded position, raising the startling prospect the plane could have been hijacked.
Officials suspect that the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded from the Boeing 777′s Rolls Royce engines and sent back to the ground as part of a routine monitoring program.

US counter-terrorism teams are now pursuing the astonishing possibility that the plane and its 239 passengers were diverted to an undisclosed location �with the intention of using it later for another purpose�.

The Wall Street Journal broke the new developments after talking with two people familiar with the American investigation, raising a whole new raft of questions about what happened to the jet which disappeared seemingly without trace from radar at around 1.30 am early on Saturday morning en-route to Beijing.

Government terrorism experts are now examining the possibility that the pilot or somebody else turned the plane�s transponders off to avoid detection and flew it to another country.

A total flight time of five hours upon leaving Kuala Lumpur means that the Boeing 777 would have been able to remain airborne for an additional 2,200 nautical miles at its air-speed � which put the border of Pakistan and the Arabian Sea within its reach.

While the Wall Street Journal said it isn�t clear whether investigators have evidence of terrorism or hijacking, they have not ruled it out.

However, officials are working on the suspicion that the plane�s engines were operating for four more hours following its last recorded sighting on radar.

This has caused enormous uncertainty over the final destination of the aircraft, in addition to why it flew for so long without operating its transponders.

One working theory from counter-terror officials is that the plane was taken over for an as-yet unknown purpose.

The Wall Street Journal said that this scenario � previously only discussed in the media as one of a number of conspiracy theories, was brought to national security officials and senior personnel from the appropriate US agencies.

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At one of these briefings, officials were told that terror investigators were actively examining if flight 370 had been commandeered �to be used later for another purpose�.

Of course, the mystery of the whereabouts of the aircraft continues, and it remains unclear if the plane crashed hundreds of miles from its last known location or indeed landed at an alternate destination.

Boeing officials, Malaysian Airline officials and Rolls Royce representatives have all not commented yet on the new revelations regarding the planes engines.

Erin Atan, Rolls-Royce head of Asia-Pacific and Middle East communications, was unable to confirm or deny the Wall Street Journal�s claim when contacted by TIME magazine.

As part of maintenance agreements between Rolls Royce and Malaysian Airlines, the engines transmit live data to its global engine health monitoring center in Derby, UK for analysis every 30 minutes.

Investigators have used this information to try to establish the activities of flight 370 after its transponders ceased to work en-route to Beijing, half way across the Gulf of Thailand.

Russ

The One

13th March 2014, 14:37

How weird i just watched that film last night Millennium and it reminded me of this

sandy

13th March 2014, 23:05

Has there been anymore media coverage of the families waiting to hear something. Usually they are hounded by media and this time there seems to be silence..............maybe the plane was hyjacked and they have been silenced for this reason??

However being an old sceptic I sit here wondering if there ever really was a flight that went missing in the first place and that the whole this is another false flag waiting to present itself????????

Sparky

14th March 2014, 01:37

Calz

14th March 2014, 01:46

May I say this with all due respect to all who have contributed energy to gain an understanding of what actually took place, THEY (whoever they is) know exactly what took place.

Many countries have satellites that can view anything they want to on earth 24/7 and save images. THEY also can view/hear 7 stories down in high rise buildings. I've heard the technology has been nick-named by some the red eye in the sky.

The truth may never be told, but, one thing we do know is...many families are in anguish suffering mentally by the loss of their loved ones and uncertainty that may never be resolved.

Please pray for their peace of mind and innocence.

Yep ... yep ... and yep :)

I laughed when they smeared the Chinese sat image over all MSM knowing what kind of technology the spy sats have.

"They" not only know exactly what took place ... but some of "them" (worldwide officialdom) are quite likely responsible.

... and yes ... the human factor for those directly involved and indirectly suffering through being stonewalled about the information of their missing family members is shameful.

Sooz

14th March 2014, 11:16

This is the latest from mainstream media here in Oz.

More confusion, designed to confuse:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-may-have-been-deliberately-diverted-to-andaman-islands-20140314-34sp1.html

Edit: If anyone can make head or tail of that concoction, then I'm a monkey's uncle.

My gut tells me it was remote controlled, flying somewhere else, to parts unknown at this stage.

Altaira

14th March 2014, 16:44

Leuren Moret: Flight 370 downing was U.S. Navy Energy weapons demo for Putin; Payback for Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal verdicts vs. Israel, US and UK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUgWhUkkzr4

jimmer

14th March 2014, 19:31

Leuren Moret: Flight 370 downing was U.S. Navy Energy weapons demo for Putin; Payback for Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal verdicts vs. Israel, US and UK

I haven't had time to watch this video, but if it was 'downed' by whatever, where is the debris?

my hypothetical: hijacked, landed, retro-fitted and weaponized
for some big surprise coming sooner or later to a poor region of the world
and its unsuspecting citizenry.

Highland1

14th March 2014, 19:43

The Malaysian Airliner is not missing and much more

The Malaysian airplane is not missing. *It is exactly where somebody has designed it to be. Also, with regard to the 80,000 Russian troops poised to invade Ukraine and with NATO moving forces into Norway, there is a war that could break out any day.

I will provide the link as this is a lenghty post.

http://intellihub.com/malaysian-airliner-missing-much/

Russ

Altaira

14th March 2014, 21:33

I just finished watching this interview and I must say it is very difficult to sun up the content of it. Both Leuren Moret and Alfred Lambremont Webre showed some interesting facts that link the incident to a wide array of people in power and influential countries. Well worth listening I think.

Sooz

15th March 2014, 09:35

This is not only in alternative news but also all over mainstream news now. The plane was hijacked, that's the official line.

Due to the internet, I guess it blew their cover.

Lord knows where the hell it is, I am just hoping and praying all those people are OK and still alive. Their families must be going through absolute hell with all this toing and froing of information.

http://www.infowars.com/malaysian-official-the-missing-plane-was-hijacked/

Sooz

15th March 2014, 11:09

Here is the mainstream news version here in Oz, front page, Sydney Morning Herald:

Not much different from alternative news sources.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/terror-in-the-sky-mh370-police-investigation-returns-to-passengers-pilots-20140315-34u3n.html

jimmer

15th March 2014, 12:51

rush limbaugh weighs in.
sounds plausible, but what about all the debris?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCuupB8YvJ4

BabaRa

15th March 2014, 20:54

One thing is clear - what we know doesn't make sense.

Any of number of ways they could be lying to us:

* found the debris and black box - and are messing with the black box to come up with a story that saves somebody's butt.

If the plane is somewhere doesn't make sense - if this were so, somebody would have been making demands by now. If it was to kill a few, they would have to kill them all.

If what Leuren Moret says (in video above) and US Navy has this advanced technology - sounds as if it could decimate the plane without wreckage. Why?

* to show Putin, don't mess with us
* to kill whoever is aboard.

If any of the above were the case, it would seem it would have been easy fix to blame it on the 2 Iranians with the stolen passports. But they immediately dismissed them as terrorists, almost too quickly IMO - as was Interpols claim that no terrorists were involved.

One of L. Moret's theories was the US Navy did it (in conjunction with Rand Corp) simply to show off new technology they had for sale.

My Question: I wonder where Rome is burning while we're fiddling? (And by we, I don't just mean us, mean the world)

Altaira

15th March 2014, 20:58

Where is Flight 370 now? Pakistan, Iran both potentially in range of the landing
According to this Boeing web page, the 777 has a cruising speed of around Mach .84, or around 650 miles per hour.

If the aircraft cruised for four hours after the transponder was turned off, it could have flown nearly 2600 miles, putting it just within reach of Pakistan, and possibly even southeast Iran if it flew at a slightly higher speed and had sufficient fuel. The Iran Shahr Airport, located less than 100 miles from the border of Pakistan, is conceivably within range and sits at an altitude of around 2,000 meters. This airport has a runway length of 7,711 feet, and according to page 16 of this document on the Boeing website, the required runway length for landing a Boeing 777 is less than 7,711 feet as long as the runway is not wet. This is true even if the aircraft is fully loaded and flying at maximum weight.

The aircraft was actually designed to take advantage of shorter runways. Even Boeing itself says the 777 "uses a new semi-levered gear, which allows it to take off from fields with limited runway length."

Thus, Flight 370 could have conceivably and successfully landed in Iran. Remember, too, that the aircraft was "using airline flight corridors normally employed for routes to the Middle East and Europe," according to Reuters (link above).

This flight path, however, would have put it directly over India, and it is difficult to imagine the Indian government not noticing a Boeing 777 aircraft flying over its airspace without a transponder. Then again, the Malaysian government seems to have no idea where the plane went, either, and so we may be dealing with regional military incompetence on these matters, or possibly some amazing new stealth technology that was somehow deployed on the plane.

To help explain where this aircraft could have gone, I put together this flight range map, showing the possible locations where Flight 370 could have flown in the four hours after it disappeared from its intended flight path:

http://www.naturalnews.com/images/Flight-370-Flight-Radius-v2.jpg
http://www.naturalnews.com/044307_Flight_370_passengers_alive_air_piracy.html

Highland1

15th March 2014, 21:40

Posting this real quick, while I can,
Sooz.

Bolded words are mine, not Jim Stone's'.

From Jim Stone's website - UPDATE:

Here is a post worthy mail that is completely un verified. Discern for yourself. I have my doubts, but people should probably get onto this one anyway.
Someone just sent me this � I don�t know the source so I can�t link it.
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Rothschild, Freescale, Patent, Murder and a missing plane, what do all have in common? Jacob Rothschild, Murderer This is how the elites get richer and richer, by any means available including murder. This is a story about greed, wealth, power and world domination. Have you pieced together the puzzle of missing flight 370 to Beijing China ?? If not, here are your missing pieces. Patents Patents Patents and the wealth they bring.

[link to http://www.4-traders.com

Four days after a missing flight, a patent is approved by the Patent Office for maximizing dies on a wafer. 4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX. Patent is divided up on 20% increments to 5 holders. Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%) Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%) Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%) Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%) Freescale Semiconductor (20%) If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders equally share the dividends of the deceased if not disputed in a will. If 4 of the 5 dies, then the remaining 1 Patent holder gets 100% of the wealth of the patent. That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.

Who owns Freescale Semiconductor ?? Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone who owns Freescale.

Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane.

As all 4 Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane. Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs. However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved. Thus, Rothschild gets 100% of Patent once Patent holders declared deceased. Rothschild, you are an evil *******

My comment:

A little semiconductor manufacturing background -

Chips are made 100 or so at a time on a wafer of silicon. Each individual area a chip is made within is called a die. Silicon suitable for advanced chips is very expensive. To maximize dies on a wafer means that a way was discovered and patented to get more chips out of a wafer, and anything additional is pure profit. SO it would have been a money making patent. I think the above is something to consider,

but I don't think that is all there is to this story.

This is for me the most likely reason for choosing this plane and using it as a chess piece whilst the Rothchilds decide how to profiteer further as Russia and the Us face off.

Maybe a couple of weather disasters will happen beforehand to throw the world completely off their scent....
Russ

BabaRa

15th March 2014, 23:29

Malaysian PM: Missing flight was intentionally diverted

A Malaysian passenger jet missing for more than a week had its communications deliberately disabled and its last signal came about seven-and-a-half hours after takeoff, meaning it could have ended up as far as Kazakhstan or deep in the southern Indian Ocean, Prime Minister Najib Razak said Saturday

Najib's statement Saturday gave further credence to mounting speculation that the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 with 239 people on board was not accidental.

"In view of this latest development, the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board," Najib said, stressing they are still investigating all possibilities as to why the plane deviated so drastically from its original flight path.

Minutes after the Malaysian press conference ended, police began searching the house of the missing aircraft's 53-year-old captain for any evidence that he could have been involved in foul play, Reuters reported.

But to date, no details have emerged of any passengers or crew members having any links to terrorist groups, nor any evidence of psychological problems that may explain a motive for diverting or deliberately crashing the flight. And Malaysia Airlines officials have said they do not believe that the experienced pilot would have sabotaged the plane.

Najib said investigators now have a high degree of certainly that one of the planes communications, the Aircraft and Communications Addressing and Reporting System, was disabled before the aircraft reached the east coast of Malaysia. Shortly afterward someone on board then switched off the aircraft's transponder, which communicates with civilian air traffic controllers.

The prime minister then confirmed that Malaysian air force defense radar picked up traces of the plane turning back westward, crossing over peninsular Malaysia into the northern stretches of the Strait of Malacca. Authorities previously had said this radar data could not be verified.

He then said the last confirmed signal between the plane and a satellite came at 8:11 a.m. Malaysian time — 7 hours and 31 minutes after take-off. Airline officials have said the plane had enough fuel to fly for up to about eight hours.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/3/15/malaysian-pm-missingflightintentionallydiverted.html

Sooz

16th March 2014, 10:40

This just in from Mike Adams of Natural News. I personally find him a very credible journalist.

So....this is his take...

http://www.naturalnews.com/044307_Flight_370_passengers_alive_air_piracy.html

modwiz

16th March 2014, 11:38

Well, I took the time to read the article, even after the Iranophobic viewpoint was made early on. I wonder if I am alone in seeing this this journalist as an Anglo/American Iranophobic, neocon, NWO shill?

Particularly odious and revealing was this tired old lie limping along in the matrix of the misinformed and misinformers.

The reason I deliberately choose Tel Aviv in this example is because there appears to be a possible link with Iran in all this, and the Iranian government leadership has reportedly said it wishes to see Israel wiped off the map. The elaborate nature of this aircraft piracy, if indeed this is the true explanation, also smacks of state-sponsored involvement.

Well, we agree in the last sentence that, this 'smacks of state-sponsored involvement'.

(In Church Lady voice) "Hmm.:hmm:I wonder who that could be?":scrhd: "Satan?"

So, I think this article is astute in the very real potential to use the jet as a weapon. I lean towards that observation. It is the political shaping that accompanies the important information that identifies the hand behind it. This has neocon hysteria all over it.

It is very insulting to the character of Iran, based on a bogey man built up in the news since 1979.

BabaRa

16th March 2014, 16:59

Well, I took the time to read the article, even after the Iranophobic viewpoint was made early on. I wonder if I am alone in seeing this this journalist as an Anglo/American Iranophobic, neocon, NWO shill?

Particularly odious and revealing was this tired old lie limping along in the matrix of the misinformed and misinformers.

Well, we agree in the last sentence that, this 'smacks of state-sponsored involvement'.

I agree.

Those corporations that make and sell the weapons care not what country, religious or ethnic group they sell them to in order to keep the war machine going. Then they pad the politicians pockets to keep inventing enemies for each country, stir the pot with the media, and march us off to war.

Until we the people refuse to see A Russian, an Iranian, a Muslim, a Christian, an American or you fill in the blank as the enemy, we will continue to be their pawns.

Calabash

16th March 2014, 17:01

The front page headlines on the UK msm newspapers today are shouting that the pilot was a "Political Fanatic" . . . . . .

Sooz

17th March 2014, 07:36

More interesting stuff here:

Diego Garcia (supposedly an interrogation centre, a US military base to the east of Africa), is said to be a landing place they could have reached. Remember the Chinese executives on the plane, employees involved in cloaking technology? The company was Freescale Semiconductor, as I mentioned previously in this thread.

Lord Jacob Rothschild is a member of Blackstone, an affiliated company to Freescale Semiconductor. (There is a whole other story in there).

Could it even have landed in Australia? - Plenty of desert with hard packed ground to land - what about near Pine Gap? (Might as well throw that one in for flavour - not outside the realm of possibilities).

Last but not least, the technology for all Boeings can be remotely controlled by the military (BUAP) has been in existence the last several years or so.

Worth a look::shocked:

http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/03/16/the-case-of-malaysias-missing-airliner-mh370-part-two/

Sooz

17th March 2014, 10:55

Calz

17th March 2014, 11:04

While this story of the missing plane is captivating the world media - and it is compelling, I believe like Modwiz and others have said - it's distracting us of what is happening in the Ukraine, i.e., the possibility of WW3 and what THAT means for humankind.

Well I was trying to ...

http://jandeane81.com/threads/2204-Russia-Engaging-US-Troops-in-Ukraine?p=16501&viewfull=1#post16501

Now that Crimea has voted we will see exactly who is going to back up their bluster.

EU will be meeting soon (possibly already started) to discuss possible sanctions.

That could take us down some rather ugly roads ...

Sooz

17th March 2014, 11:18

Thanks Calz, it's so hard to keep up with everything...

For now I would love to keep on reading and researching until the wee small hours, I'm on a buzz...but I know I must sleep if I'm going to be of any use to my clients tomorrow....lol...

jimmer

17th March 2014, 15:00

While this story of the missing plane is captivating the world media - and it IS compelling - I believe like Modwiz and others have said - it's distracting us of what is happening in the Ukraine, i.e., the possibility of WW3 and what THAT means for humankind.

While it is distressing to hear of 239 people lost, I find it most suspect that there has been a 'public search' issued for everyone to put their theories in. This is a distraction tactic. The whole world is in on this now and no-one is listening or watching what is going on behind the curtain.

These people are masters of deception and hidden hands.

There are people in the media that are not so easily swayed in that deception. They need our prayers right now.

your 'diversion theory' it could be vice versa.

pirated airliner
flew 7 hours
dropped to 5K ft. under radar surveillance
could reach the middle east
777 can land on shorter runways, lots of options

9/11 worked (if you believe it wasn't a false flag ; )
al-qeada repeats successful strategies
9/11-2, eventually
all of europe is within reach

the race to find the passengers and that craft

norman

17th March 2014, 15:39

.....9/11 worked (if you believe it wasn't a false flag ; )

al-qeada repeats successful strategies

9/11-2, eventually

all of europe is within reach.....

I don't believe it wasn't a false flag.

Your logic follows through perfectly though.

I just think it would be a military/intel operation, not Muslim extremists.

The whole operation could have been remotely controlled, while the pilots and passengers sat there helpless.

modwiz

17th March 2014, 18:40

.....I find it most suspect that there has been a 'public search' issued for everyone to put their theories in. This is a distraction tactic. The whole world is in on this now and no-one is listening or watching what is going on behind the curtain.

I believe 'they' have no good cover story and are hoping that 'we' will come up with a good one they can go with. Hence the public search.

Sparky

18th March 2014, 02:58

Bingo

I believe 'they' have no good cover story

How many countries have satellites that know? 5 perhaps more. There all in on the cover stories. Pause and think.
The only truth is the very first report. The plane went missing. They don't want the public to know more as it would open a can of worms they don't want to reveal. This is not the first time a plane has vanished. I recall one near Lake Superior US/Canada border. 2 fighters scrambled. Then...BOTH FIGHTERS VANISHED ALSO. There are many reports of vanished planes ... the satellites know.

It's just like the stories that ran wild 1960 when they claimed the USSR shot down Francis Gary Powers U-2 spy plane. The plane landed intact, hardly damaged, pilot alive and walking. It was horrible the way he was crucified in the media. No country had a missal to reach the elevation he flew. Suddenly, his plane was not under command. Now, 50 years later, this is supposed to make his family feel good.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/16/us/francis-gary-powers-posthumously-awarded-silver-star.html?_r=0

Nothing here to see folks.

KosmicKat

18th March 2014, 12:17

I hope I may comment without offending, that a missal (http://www.clevelandart.org/events/exhibitions/caporali-missal-a-masterpiece-renaissance-illumination) makes a poor missile (http://www.simplydecoded.com/2012/10/13/78/)

Herbert

18th March 2014, 23:10

Common sense tells us the simplest solution is is often the correct solution: Paying attention to experience.

A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet
BY CHRIS GOODFELLOW03.18.146:30 AM

There has been a lot of speculation about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. Terrorism, hijacking, meteors. I cannot believe the analysis on CNN; it’s almost disturbing. I tend to look for a simpler explanation, and I find it with the 13,000-foot runway at Pulau Langkawi.

We know the story of MH370: A loaded Boeing 777 departs at midnight from Kuala Lampur, headed to Beijing. A hot night. A heavy aircraft. About an hour out, across the gulf toward Vietnam, the plane goes dark, meaning the transponder and secondary radar tracking go off. Two days later we hear reports that Malaysian military radar (which is a primary radar, meaning the plane is tracked by reflection rather than by transponder interrogation response) has tracked the plane on a southwesterly course back across the Malay Peninsula into the Strait of Malacca.

The left turn is the key here. Zaharie Ahmad Shah1 was a very experienced senior captain with 18,000 hours of flight time. We old pilots were drilled to know what is the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us, and airports ahead of us. They’re always in our head. Always. If something happens, you don’t want to be thinking about what are you going to do–you already know what you are going to do. When I saw that left turn with a direct heading, I instinctively knew he was heading for an airport. He was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi, a 13,000-foot airstrip with an approach over water and no obstacles. The captain did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000-foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier toward Langkawi, which also was closer.

Take a look at this airport on Google Earth. The pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make an immediate turn to the closest, safest airport.

The loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire.
When I heard this I immediately brought up Google Earth and searched for airports in proximity to the track toward the southwest.

For me, the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire. And there most likely was an electrical fire. In the case of a fire, the first response is to pull the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one. If they pulled the busses, the plane would go silent. It probably was a serious event and the flight crew was occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, navigate, and lastly, communicate is the mantra in such situations.

There are two types of fires. An electrical fire might not be as fast and furious, and there may or may not be incapacitating smoke. However there is the possibility, given the timeline, that there was an overheat on one of the front landing gear tires, it blew on takeoff and started slowly burning. Yes, this happens with underinflated tires. Remember: Heavy plane, hot night, sea level, long-run takeoff. There was a well known accident in Nigeria of a DC8 that had a landing gear fire on takeoff. Once going, a tire fire would produce horrific, incapacitating smoke. Yes, pilots have access to oxygen masks, but this is a no-no with fire. Most have access to a smoke hood with a filter, but this will last only a few minutes depending on the smoke level. (I used to carry one in my flight bag, and I still carry one in my briefcase when I fly.)

What I think happened is the flight crew was overcome by smoke and the plane continued on the heading, probably on George (autopilot), until it ran out of fuel or the fire destroyed the control surfaces and it crashed. You will find it along that route–looking elsewhere is pointless.

lang-660

Ongoing speculation of a hijacking and/or murder-suicide and that there was a flight engineer on board does not sway me in favor of foul play until I am presented with evidence of foul play.

We know there was a last voice transmission that, from a pilot’s point of view, was entirely normal. “Good night” is customary on a hand-off to a new air traffic control. The “good night” also strongly indicates to me that all was OK on the flight deck. Remember, there are many ways a pilot can communicate distress. A hijack code or even transponder code off by one digit would alert ATC that something was wrong. Every good pilot knows keying an SOS over the mike always is an option. Even three short clicks would raise an alert. So I conclude that at the point of voice transmission all was perceived as well on the flight deck by the pilots.

But things could have been in the process of going wrong, unknown to the pilots.

Evidently the ACARS went inoperative some time before. Disabling the ACARS is not easy, as pointed out. This leads me to believe more in an electrical problem or an electrical fire than a manual shutdown. I suggest the pilots probably were not aware ACARS was not transmitting.

As for the reports of altitude fluctuations, given that this was not transponder-generated data but primary radar at maybe 200 miles, the azimuth readings can be affected by a lot of atmospherics and I would not have high confidence in this being totally reliable. But let’s accept for a minute that the pilot may have ascended to 45,000 feet in a last-ditch effort to quell a fire by seeking the lowest level of oxygen. That is an acceptable scenario. At 45,000 feet, it would be tough to keep this aircraft stable, as the flight envelope is very narrow and loss of control in a stall is entirely possible. The aircraft is at the top of its operational ceiling. The reported rapid rates of descent could have been generated by a stall, followed by a recovery at 25,000 feet. The pilot may even have been diving to extinguish flames.

But going to 45,000 feet in a hijack scenario doesn’t make any good sense to me.

Regarding the additional flying time: On departing Kuala Lampur, Flight 370 would have had fuel for Beijing and an alternate destination, probably Shanghai, plus 45 minutes–say, 8 hours. Maybe more. He burned 20-25 percent in the first hour with takeoff and the climb to cruise. So when the turn was made toward Langkawi, he would have had six hours or more hours worth of fuel. This correlates nicely with the Inmarsat data pings being received until fuel exhaustion.

Fire in an aircraft demands one thing: Get the machine on the ground as soon as possible.
The now known continued flight until time to fuel exhaustion only confirms to me that the crew was incapacitated and the flight continued on deep into the south Indian ocean.

There is no point speculating further until more evidence surfaces, but in the meantime it serves no purpose to malign pilots who well may have been in a struggle to save this aircraft from a fire or other serious mechanical issue. Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a hero struggling with an impossible situation trying to get that plane to Langkawi. There is no doubt in my mind. That’s the reason for the turn and direct route. A hijacking would not have made that deliberate left turn with a direct heading for Langkawi. It probably would have weaved around a bit until the hijackers decided where they were taking it.

Surprisingly, none of the reporters, officials, or other pilots interviewed have looked at this from the pilot’s viewpoint: If something went wrong, where would he go? Thanks to Google Earth I spotted Langkawi in about 30 seconds, zoomed in and saw how long the runway was and I just instinctively knew this pilot knew this airport. He had probably flown there many times.

Fire in an aircraft demands one thing: Get the machine on the ground as soon as possible. There are two well-remembered experiences in my memory. The AirCanada DC9 which landed, I believe, in Columbus, Ohio in the 1980s. That pilot delayed descent and bypassed several airports. He didn’t instinctively know the closest airports. He got it on the ground eventually, but lost 30-odd souls. The 1998 crash of Swissair DC-10 off Nova Scotia was another example of heroic pilots. They were 15 minutes out of Halifax but the fire overcame them and they had to ditch in the ocean. They simply ran out of time. That fire incidentally started when the aircraft was about an hour out of Kennedy. Guess what? The transponders and communications were shut off as they pulled the busses.

Get on Google Earth and type in Pulau Langkawi and then look at it in relation to the radar track heading. Two plus two equals four. For me, that is the simple explanation why it turned and headed in that direction. Smart pilot. He just didn’t have the time.

Chris Goodfellow has 20 years experience as a Canadian Class-1 instrumented-rated pilot for multi-engine planes. His theory on what happened to MH370 first appeared on Google+. We’ve copyedited it with his permission.

1CORRECTION 9:40 a.m. Eastern 03/18/14: An editing error introduced a typo in Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah’s name.

Sparky

19th March 2014, 00:08

Your explanation is a hoot on my spelling. Thanks for the chuckle...that was a sharp catch and clever presentation.

I hope I may comment without offending, that a missal makes a poor missile

Energy weapons have been around quite a while since WWII. When FGP's U-2 vanished, no communications, the CIA was in a buzz 1960 with no info. Finally, the USSR admitted they captured a US Spy Plane. The Cat's out of the bag. CIA susses the Soviets joined the club.

It was easier to discredit the pilot, Francis Gary Powers, accuse him of treason than admit 2 big gubbermints have extremely sophisticated weapons exercising control of airplanes.

I was sad what happened to FGP. A hero that became a thorn in TPTB as time marched on.
Along comes another story FGP crashed, was killed. His helo ran out of gas.

Don't cha think a pilot, if low on fuel, would set er down immediately?

Psycho's make up with these stories...just like the Malaysian Missing Plane "Soap Opera" Stories.

The truth will never be on Te-lie-vision.

Sooz

19th March 2014, 06:50

This is interesting. This link is mainstream news here in Oz;

You can't tell me Pine Gap doesn't know where the hell that plane is.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-plea-to-us-to-release-pine-gap-data-20140319-hvkf2.html

Altaira

19th March 2014, 11:17

Common sense tells us the simplest solution is is often the correct solution: Paying attention to experience.

A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet
BY CHRIS GOODFELLOW03.18.146:30 AM

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This is hypotheses is possible but why the phones were ringing several days after the disaster? If its a fire the phones would have been damaged, if its under waters the signal would have disappeared.

Spiral

19th March 2014, 12:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nt4Z1tUHgE

If this plane hasn't crashed its defo been taken as part of a very clever & well planned plot, & unless info is being suppressed (lol) it would most likely have to have landed in Burma or Diego Garcia IMHO.

That said there are other options such as swapping / hacking the transponder & making it look like another plane entirely on radar, that way they could take it anywhere.

There is now so much time since it disappeared that even if wreckage is found it could have been planted......

The One

19th March 2014, 13:15

What's happened to the tracking of the phones

I don't get it one bit.Maybe they have gone to another dimension

The thing is i think someone knows exactly what's happened and even if the plane was abducted by UFO'S and went to another dimension there is no way they would ever make that public knowledge

They would rather say one of the pilots was suicidal or something

Highland1

19th March 2014, 15:08

Food for thought, was there even a missing plane to begin with or is it another Sandy Hook type hoax?

Hard Proof of the Staging of Chinese Crisis Actors in Malaysian Airlines Hoax.

No wonder there were so many supposed Chinese passengers on the non-existent Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 (notice the use of the three and the seven, key numbers in Satanic numerology). China is a compliant state for fraud and willingly participates in such scams, just as it did in the Asiana Flight 214 hoax (2 + 1 + 4 = 7).

Even so, it would seem impossible for anyone to have this degree of power, that is to mobilize the governments of numerous nations, including in particular China and Malaysia, to participate in this hoax. Yet, why not? Real honest people are never in control of such nations. Moreover, a hoax could not be orchestrated without their fullest cooperation.

Unbelievable or not, it is not difficult, upon careful analysis, to determine the nature of the Malaysian Airlines �debacle.� In other words, it is not so complex or mysterious. If there are crisis actors in action in any given event, then, that event is a phony. In the Malaysian Airlines disappearing act, there are a plethora of such actors. These actors are playing the role primarily of distraught, grieving relatives.

They are not relatives of any actual deceased persons who died in a plane crash (or mid-air explosion). Rather, they are actual paid crisis actors performing a kind of staging of a fake event, that is staging their grief as if they truly lost loved ones.

The following is, perhaps, the most iconic of all photos of supposedly grieving relatives. It will be proven, here, that this photo is a fake and is nothing other than a part of the set-up to make the claim of a downed or destroyed jetliner appear real.

The image, below, is supposed to represent that of a shocked, grieving relative, the woman, left screen, along with a friend, also in shock, seemingly angry or indignant. This was the necessary kind of imagery to give substance to the hoax. Images of shocked, grieving relatives, in dire despair from such a sudden loss, are a powerful element. They act as a kind of mind control element, convincing the general public that the fabrication is real.

496

Recording the grief � media hover over a possible relative of a passenger on the Malaysia Airlines flight.
The photo is more than essential. In this image the male was being coached to give the facial expression of rage, as demonstrated by the following typical headline associated with this scam:
n addition, it�s always, �A woman cries� when there are clearly no tears to be seen anywhere.
As is standard in these hoaxes there are the long faces, the squinting or shuttering of the eyes, the lack of tears, and, of course, the cell phone plastered to the ear. Who is seen the image of the two crisis actors? It is none other than media moles assigned to the job to capture the act. Fellow relatives of the supposedly doomed passengers are nowhere to be found.
The woman is not a relative in the least but is instead a paid crisis actor. So is the man. This is proven by the following image. She is not at the terminal area with other relatives but is in a staging area blocked off from other people. The only people anywhere near these two fabricators are media moles.

497

Count them: there are at least six such media individuals visible, while there are virtually no others in the immediate background, all working on behalf of the Chinese hierarchy. Surely, like the Asiana fraud, this hoax could not occur without government acquiescence.
They are putting on quite an act and have, as a result, fooled hundreds of millions of people into believing this hoax as real. Surely, there is nothing real about it, especially the existence of any truly grieving, shocked relatives. It is said that such imagery represents grief caught on camera. That�s close: they just need to insert another word, �fake grief� caught on cameras.

498

Once again, count them: there are at least a dozen media moles �capturing� the fake grief. That is a physical impossibility. There is no way real relatives/friends of a plane crash victim is going to perform in this way, virtually completely encircled by camera-people. There is heavy-duty equipment set up there in advance. Why would media people need to surround such people, taking image after image, unless this was all a staged hoax? The above photo truly is telling. When carefully studied, it represents clear and absolute evidence of the staging of fake shock, despair, and grief.

499

Grief � A possible relative cries at the Beijing Airport. Picture: Mark Ralston Source: AFP

Now, the phony man bears the phone, offering a grimace for purposes of public consumption, while the female crisis actor, never crying, represents that standard hand-on-the-face act seen so commonly in the Sandy Hook hoax. Moreover, it is not done for free. Such people are fully paid to play these roles.

500

As far as relatives are concerned they are all by themselves. Too, there are no Chinese airline or Malaysian airline officials with them. There are, though, camera-men seen all the way back capturing this as if it is a live, real scene. Note who is also in tow: an actual government cop or private security. The Rothschild/Rockefeller cabal exerts heavy control over China. Surely, this was orchestrated by this cabal and/or its elements, the security being necessary to prevent any real, honest journalists from penetrating the scene.

continued next post..

Russ

Highland1

19th March 2014, 15:16

Continued from previous post..

501

Plenty of drooped heads, long, drawn faces, hand signs, and more: but no tears.

502

Now, the male fraudster puts on an entirely different facial expression for the cameras. It is obviously contrived.

There is a Chinese ‘cop’ on each side of them now; the area of this movie scene in the airport is virtually deserted.

503

There were plenty of other phonies to go around, always surrounded by cameras. Where are the Malaysian Airlines employees and representatives who in a real crash would be in control of the situation?

504

In shock … A woman, center, surrounded by media covers her mouth on her arrival at a hotel which is prepared for relatives or friends of passengers aboard the missing plane, in Beijing. Picture: Andy Wong Source: AP

http://nodisinfo.com/fakes-frauds-phonies-malaysian-airliner-hoax/

Who knows what really happened folks but do you think any of the above is possible?

Perhaps there was no jet of this nature to begin with. In other words, the flight as advertised didn’t take off and so did not go missing. Nor were any of the passengers real occupants of any such craft. It was all staged. Nothing disastrous happened?

Have we all been taken for another "distraction" ride?

Russ

Calz

19th March 2014, 16:11

Who knows what really happened folks but do you think any of the above is possible?

Perhaps there was no jet of this nature to begin with. In other words, the flight as advertised didn�t take off and so did not go missing. Nor were any of the passengers real occupants of any such craft. It was all staged. Nothing disastrous happened?

Have we all been taken for another "distraction" ride?

Russ

Think that is a stretch ... 239 peeps all with family members (not just one couple who *could* be legit and simply showing their grief to so many sources of media ... or staged but not indicative of the other grieving family members???).

That said ... perhaps that is no more a stretch than a number of other theories popping up.

Calz

19th March 2014, 17:57

Oh ... btw ... if it was my own family that had gone missing and I was waiting for answers ... I would be flipping out as well.

Ask yourselves ... those that have family ... ???

Spiral

19th March 2014, 19:15

Think that is a stretch ... 239 peeps all with family members (not just one couple who *could* be legit and simply showing their grief to so many sources of media ... or staged but not indicative of the other grieving family members???).

That said ... perhaps that is no more a stretch than a number of other theories popping up.

I think so too, one of my brothers lives in Kuala Lumpur and a friend of his was going to catch that plane but had to switch to the following day at the last minute when something came up.

In other words if it was cancelled to be replaced by a fake flight etc would the airline not have notified passengers that it was cancelled (and wouldn't we have heard about that) ? Bearing in mind that this flight is daily "bus" flight & not a one off.

This might seem a bit stiff, but what if this has become like it has for no other reason than the Malaysians couldn't organise a proverbial booze up in brewery, the reason there are so many people of Chinese & European decent over there is because they are the ones who make everything work, those Chinese relatives are well aware of this & thats why they are so angry & upset.

Sooz

20th March 2014, 05:11

Calz

20th March 2014, 05:35

News just breaking here now, I would say within the next hour or so we will find out if this is it or another false lead:

http://www.smh.com.au/national/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-debris-found-in-search-for-mh370-says-australian-prime-minister-tony-abbott-20140320-354xz.html

Not yet confirmed but sat imagery sounds hopeful.

Australian official says largest object he's seen in satellite imagery has been judged to be about 78 feet in size.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/20/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

*update*

#MH370 Flight crew in Indian Ocean reports radar hits of "significant size," indicating something below water's surface, ABC News says.

norman

21st March 2014, 18:45

As I listened to news about this last night on the BBC world Service, I got a feeling that they have got a good opportunity with this latest "discovery" to concoct a wholly fictitious tail to this story.

Either they created this find or it's just a good chance to fictionalize the narrative.

They are focused on a very remote area that the public cannot access, therefore the public cannot post inconvenient phone videos on the internet to spoil the official story from here on.

We were told that the Chinese provided 2 things.

1) a fizzy image of what looked like something large on the surface of an ocean.

2) a set of coordinates to go to and search

How do we know any of that is really genuine?

Now there is a situation where highly secretive assets of governments and military are in full command of the operation. Ships are moving in.

Anything they claim to find in that remote region could have been transported there by some of those secretive assets.

BabaRa

21st March 2014, 19:00

As I listened to news about this last night on the BBC world Service, I got a feeling that they have got a good opportunity with this latest "discovery" to concoct a wholly fictitious tail to this story.

I have to admit Norman, my thoughts went in that direction as well. . . It's a sad state of affairs when we feel we can't trust or believe anything that comes from our media/gov't. But, they have created our lack of trust through their deceit.

I had to laugh. Today the following story on CNN.

CNN asks questions: Did a black hole take Flight 370?

CNN’s Don Lemon has been entertaining all sorts of theories about the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, including the chance something “supernatural” happened, but on Wednesday night, he actually asked panelists about the possibility a black hole was involved.
Lemon brought this up along with other “conspiracy theories” people have been floating on Twitter, including people noting the eerie parallels to Lost and The Twilight Zone, and wondered, “is it preposterous” to consider a black hole as a possibility?

Spiral

21st March 2014, 19:35

I have to admit Norman, my thoughts went in that direction as well. . . It's a sad state of affairs when we feel we can't trust or believe anything that comes from our media/gov't. But, they have created our lack of trust through their deceit.

I had to laugh. Today the following story on CNN.

CNN asks questions: Did a black hole take Flight 370?

CNN’s Don Lemon has been entertaining all sorts of theories about the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight 370, including the chance something “supernatural” happened, but on Wednesday night, he actually asked panelists about the possibility a black hole was involved.
Lemon brought this up along with other “conspiracy theories” people have been floating on Twitter, including people noting the eerie parallels to Lost and The Twilight Zone, and wondered, “is it preposterous” to consider a black hole as a possibility?

I also suspect that this latest wild goose chase is an attempt to "put this to bed" with a realistic sounding narrative with plausible reasons why they can't find anything (time since it happened, depth of the water, remoteness, bad weather etc etc ).

The black hole thing is nonsense because they don't exist, and even if they did & one opened up in Earths atmosphere all the air would be sucked off the planet, followed by the water & then the Earth itself all in no time at all, because BHs even suck in time according to the people who are paid huge sums to Make Something Up.

norman

22nd March 2014, 17:34

A second satellite picture from the Chinese, shot on Tuesday, released Saturday, shows a similar sized and shaped object 130 km away from the first location.

What's tingling my antennae is the way the narrative is becoming very fixed on "IT" being what they are looking for, even though they don't actually say anything specific. For me, it's starting sound like they are passing around a 'script' that's been worked out for them by now.

Either they know exactly what it is ( good technology they don't want to reveal to us ) or they know exactly where they want this story to go to and end up. I can't quite make my mind up which it is yet but it's getting to feel odd.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9209667.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/MH370+search.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9206171.ece/ALTERNATES/w1024/malaysia.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9206259.ece/ALTERNATES/w1024/malaysia2.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9181010.ece/ALTERNATES/w1024/malaysia-4.jpg

Sooz

23rd March 2014, 04:04

I resonate with this version of events (taken from a link Sparky just posted on the 'Clinton Scum' thread.)

i.e., the link between the Austin/Texas company, flying to Diego Garcia. Mmmmm, one of airports in the pilot's home flight simulator was of Diego Garcia airport.

I found a good link the other day on the history of Diego Garcia and the links to Rumsfeld and Cheyney. Will go hunt for it.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/malaysian-airlines-mh370-stolen.html

Edit: There ya go, some history of Diego Garcia

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/about/deep-green/deep-green-august-2008/

norman

23rd March 2014, 05:58

There are, or were, 2 cargo ships in the search area 'helping'. If this is a big sham those cargo ships are getting in the way of a smooth operation.

Errr.... unless they are part of it too.

The way the story has been going lately, it looks like they are definitely going to find something down there.

Reminds me of those little bits of "plane" someone scattered on the grass in front of the Pentagon.

Deep water, no survivors, story tied up and delivered.

Sooz

24th March 2014, 01:44

norman

24th March 2014, 17:39

So, here we go.

Through bamboozlement by invisible technology that none of us can verify, we have been told that the flight ended in the southern Indian ocean, no survivors.

It's interesting to note that the company that provided the data analysis was British.

Conspiracy theorists are going to go nuts. I'm one of them.

Highland1

24th March 2014, 17:41

Just in, the "official version"........

Malaysia says missing jet crashed at sea
By M. Jegathesan (AFP) – 1 hour ago
Kuala Lumpur — Malaysia said Monday the passenger jet which went missing more than two weeks ago crashed in the Indian Ocean, but shed no light on the mystery of why it veered from its intended course.
Prime Minister Najib Razak said new satellite analysis of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370's path placed its last position in remote waters off Australia's west coast, and far from any landing sites.
The sombre announcement on the fate of the plane ended 17 days of agonising uncertainty for relatives of those on board -- two thirds of them Chinese.
"It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that, according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean," Najib said.
He said the flag carrier had already spoken to the families of the passengers and crew aboard the jet which disappeared on March 8 on an overnight flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
"For them, the past few weeks have been heartbreaking; I know this news must be harder still."
Najib said he had been briefed by representatives from Britain's Air Accidents Investigation Branch, which relayed further analysis of satellite data by British company Inmarsat.
- 'No words to ease pain' -
The airline, in a statement sent to families, said "we have to assume" the plane was lost.
"Our prayers go out to all the loved ones of the 226 passengers and of our 13 friends and colleagues at this enormously painful time," it said.
"We know there are no words that we or anyone else can say which can ease your pain."
The airline said the multinational search, which is scouring a stretch of the forbidding Indian Ocean to find any debris, would continue "as we seek answers to the questions which remain".
Malaysia believes the plane was deliberately diverted by someone on board. But the absence of firm evidence has fuelled intense speculation and conspiracy theories, and tormented the families of the missing.
Leading theories include a hijacking, pilot sabotage, or a sudden mid-air crisis that incapacitated the flight crew and left the plane to fly on auto-pilot until it ran out of fuel.
MH370 last made contact over the South China Sea halfway between Malaysia and Vietnam. For reasons unknown, it backtracked over the Malaysian peninsula and then flew on for hours.
The search swung deep into the Indian Ocean last week after initial satellite images depicted large floating objects there.
Hopes of a resolution to the mystery rose after a weekend in which an Australian aircraft spotted a wooden pallet, strapping and other debris, and French and Chinese satellite information indicated more floating objects.
An Australian-led multinational air and sea search has been scouring the vast ocean and there were two separate sightings Wednesday of possible debris from the plane.
Crew members of an Australian P-3 Orion plane reported seeing two objects, Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott told parliament.
Australian officials said they were different to pieces seen by a Chinese plane earlier in the day.
The Australian naval ship HMAS Success, equipped with a crane, was in the area, about 2,500 kilometres (1,562 miles) southwest of Perth, and will attempt to recover the objects.
Abbott cautioned that it was not known whether the objects came from the missing Boeing 777.
"Nevertheless we are hopeful that we can recover these objects soon and they will take us a step closer to resolving this tragic mystery," he said.
- Hunt for 'black box' -
The US Navy has added to the sense of an approaching denouement, ordering a specialised device sent to the region to help find the "black box" flight and cockpit voice data -- crucial in determining what happened to the plane.
The high-tech device can locate black boxes as deep as 20,000 feet (6,060 metres), the US Seventh Fleet said in a statement. The search area ranges from 3,000-4,000 metres deep.
The 30-day signal from the black box is due to fail in less than two weeks.
The Australian Maritime Safety Authority said the search grew to 10 aircraft on Monday with the inclusion of two Chinese military aircraft joining Australian, US, and Japanese planes.
China has also dispatched seven ships, adding to British and Australian naval vessels involved.
If a crash is confirmed, recovering the black box will be even more difficult than the case of the Air France jet that went down in the Atlantic in 2009, said Charitha Pattiaratchi, an oceanographer at the University of Western Australia.
"We have to remember that Air France 447 took two years to find and this is a more challenging region where the environment is much, much harsher. There are bigger waves and it's windier," he said.
As part of an investigation into the crash, Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said police have interviewed more than 100 people, including families of both the pilot and co-pilot.
Malaysia Airlines said Monday that 27-year-old co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid was flying the Boeing 777 for the first time without a so-called "check co-pilot" looking over his shoulder.

source http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jy-II2Po8MYBIrCeW0St8gys69zw?docId=ac372cb0-2413-4e2e-a62d-bdc20ca47a6c

Perhaps we will never know the truth but it does not look like the families will be re united with their loved ones so my thoughts are with them.

Russ

BabaRa

24th March 2014, 19:29

Conspiracy theorists are going to go nuts. I'm one of them.

Yep! - and for good reason.

Norman, did you read the link from Sooz's post above yours. I'll copy it below. Have no idea who this guy is or his track record, but sounds plausible.

From this link: http://www.erikrush.com/what-really-happened-to-malaysia-airlines-flight-370/

It sounds like an expensive cigar, but Diego Garcia is actually a United States military base that we technically rent from the United Kingdom. At 967 nautical miles south-southwest from the southern tip of India, it is more or less midway between Indonesia and the African continent. The US Navy operates its Naval Support Facility (NSF) there, which is a naval ship and submarine support base, military air base, as well as a communications and space-tracking facility.

It also includes a base of operations for the CIA. You’ll note there is no question mark at the end of this article’s title.

Why so few have postulated that this facility may have played a part in the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 may or may not seem odd at first blush given the circumstances: I mean, it’s not a secret base, though clandestine activities conducted there certainly would be. At any rate, I am told Diego Garcia is the location to which Flight 370 was diverted. My source has actually been to Diego Garcia, and assures me that you can land a Lockheed C-5 Galaxy there. Those are the military transport planes they load tanks aboard, and they’re just about the size of a Boeing 777.

At Diego Garcia, some 20 civilian technical personnel were removed from the aircraft for interrogation. On March 8, Reuters reported that 20 employees of U.S. chipmaker Freescale Semiconductor were passengers on Flight 370, according to a statement from the company. It is said that these employees traveled regularly between company facilities in Tianjin, China, and Kuala Lumpur. It may be presumed that these individuals were the same 20 who were reportedly taken to Diego Garcia for interrogation, although my information holds that the detainees (if you will) were working in their capacities as contractors.

Reports earlier this week that the flight plan deviation was programmed into a computer system on board (rather than being executed manually by one of the pilots was quite accurate), I am told. The airliner was taken over remotely by US intelligence operatives at the behest of those at the highest levels of our government.
It has been speculated that the plane was hijacked and the 20 Freescale Semiconductor engineers kidnapped in order that nefarious parties might access a revolutionary software package that could prove invaluable to those in the espionage community. I have been informed that this is not the case, and here are a couple of reasons I am inclined to believe so: Whistleblower Edward Snowden was able to purloin thousands of NSA digital files, distribute them, and escape the country without involving one other person. I’ve also heard – firsthand – of even more intricate and dangerous missions being carried out by less than three individuals.

No, there would have to be a great deal more involved than a software package to commandeer an airliner, kidnap technical contractors, and then “disappear” the plane and over 200 passengers (who, sadly, were most likely murdered for the sake of expediency).

The “great deal more” I am told was rather a revolutionary piece of hardware, not software, and it is not integral to digital data systems, although it is no doubt used in conjunction with them. The engineers were part of a joint US-China effort that resulted in one of the most advanced small gyroscopes for flight ever developed – flight, as in long-distance space flight.

As you probably know, China has made great strides in the area of space flight in recent years, and they’re quite proud of it. And considering the Obama administration’s intentions to devastate America’s economy, enslave her people, and part out her resources to Russia and China, a joint US-China space initiative doesn’t seem out of the ordinary. Why, it’s as American as McDonald’s on a Beijing street corner, right?

So what went wrong? Well, apparently the DOD got wind that these engineers (who, despite operating under the auspices of Freescale and/or other companies, were not American nationals) were on their way to abscond to China with their prototypes (which were in the cargo hold of the 777) and other valuable materials, thereby cutting the US out of the program entirely.

And why not? It’s fairly well-known in the intelligence community that the Chinese government has absolutely no respect for President Obama, and his telegraphing weak foreign policy all around the world wouldn’t lend itself to a sudden changing of his stripes (ineffectual posturing over Ukraine notwithstanding). Additionally, my understanding is that China technically owned this technology; the US was aiding in its development under a partnership, which apparently the Chinese decided to end in a rather ex parte manner.

The CIA went into action, in concert with the DOD and Boeing engineers. They commandeered Flight 370 en route, digitally, without the foreknowledge of the pilots or crew, diverting it to Diego Garcia. I imagine that’s where the aircraft made that now-infamous and mysterious turn just northeast of Malaysia.

So essentially, the CIA double-crossed the Chinese before they could double-cross us.

norman

24th March 2014, 21:36

Diego Garcia is a likely destination, but how many more US air strips were within that plane's flying range.

Need to keep our eyes wide and our noses tuned, here, me thinks.

NEXT TRICK:

There's a huge elephant in the living room with this too.

The Plane !

They have to get rid of it, and there are limitations on how they can do that. It can't be put back into regular service.

To my mind, the most likely second life of the plane will be an involvement in some kind of false flag stunt.

Remember, they still haven't actually proven the plane crashed into deep water far from land, it's just a story they expect us to settle down with and forget all about it for now. They can always admit they were wrong, and "disastrously so", if they use it in a false flag event. The story will be an amendment to this original story.

We are currently expected to believe that whatever happened to the plane, it was some kind of mad 'terrorist' type of thing. That's a given, right?.... So, we are primed to believe it was at least once under the control of mad terrorists.

If it reappears as a flying bomb, it's those pesky terrorists again, drat, 'we were fooled'.

"We're very sorry folks but it seems we were wrong to assume the plane crashed into the ocean, after all. The highjackers were terrorists who have now done this ( insert event here ) horrible thing with the plane".

After first thinking they don't have many options for what to do with the plane, it seems they actually have a quite versatile asset in it. Their biggest problem will be keeping it out of sight until they use it.

Calabash

24th March 2014, 23:11

Oh my word. Seeing the news today and the reactions of the relatives - I turned it off out of respect for them. The msm have no right to record such moments of stress for the world to see. They've got no sensitivity whatsoever.

Sparky

25th March 2014, 04:44

Comprehensive run down on the incident.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/

norman

25th March 2014, 05:37

There were reports that the plane was SEEN ( must have been on someone's RADAR ) turning back and heading towards the south west, exactly in the direction of Diego Garcia, as it happens.

THEN, SUDDENLY, they changed the story and said it turned SOUTH, then all this saga about it being ditched/crashed in open deep ocean far to the south.

:scp:

Altaira

25th March 2014, 07:34

These are just words but no one actually provided indisputable data of how they reach those conclusions so why we should believe those who are payed to deceive. .

Sparky

25th March 2014, 13:57

According to this gentleman, Eric Rush, he claims that the plane landed in Diego Garcia, who according to his source, has never been wrong yet.

http://www.erikrush.com/what-really-happened-to-malaysia-airlines-flight-370/

So essentially, the CIA double-crossed the Chinese before they could double-cross us.

That was the buzz when Interpol announced terrorists were not involved. Please pray for the families whose loved ones were murdered so they may find peace.

We shall see how quickly the volume gets ratcheted up.

Thanks for the find. Eric Rush is a brilliant man with heaps of common sense; and above all, honesty.

Sooz

26th March 2014, 03:21

Uh Huh....

http://worldtruth.tv/rothschild-inherits-a-semiconductor-patent-for-freescale-semiconductors/

norman

26th March 2014, 03:53

Uh Huh....

http://worldtruth.tv/rothschild-inherits-a-semiconductor-patent-for-freescale-semiconductors/

They say "Follow the money".

You could just as well say "Follow the Roths".

Sooz

26th March 2014, 11:22

What I don't understand, is why the Freescale Semiconductor company would put 20 of their best and most valuable employees on the one plane?

People in the know, don't do that. Grave oversight there, unless there were 'machinations' behind the scenes that enabled that to happen. Think of the Titanic sinking and all that stuff.

What about the black box? It's supposed to be operational for 30 days after a plane has gone down. So I suppose it will drag out for 30 plus days so they can say nothing can be salvaged from the black box.

Bottom line? The consensus is that the plane went down and everyone died. Where is the proof? There is no proof. And by mainstream media accounts they are admitting it will probably not be found because the plane is probably (supposedly), down among undersea volcanoes where there is no earth mapping, because that area is so desolate. NOTHING HAS BEEN FOUND.

No remains of the plane nor bodies will be found ever, is my guess.

I feel so much for the families who have had so much to bear with this. What a terrible ordeal to go through.

Hopefully in time the families will get their answers. And people will be in jail.

Their time will come because people worldwide are waking up and getting real savvy.

The families are not buying the spin.

norman

26th March 2014, 13:03

I heard there were no search flights AND the ships searching were pulled back from the area "due to bad weather" yesterday.

Get ready to hear they have found something in the next day or two.

A day is all it would take to drop off some bits of plane while there were no eyes watching.

BabaRa

26th March 2014, 17:05

What I don't understand, is why the Freescale Semiconductor company would put 20 of their best and most valuable employees on the one plane?

People in the know, don't do that.

I've had the exact thought, Sooz - smart companies don't do that - and these were 'supposedly' very bright people.

I remember back in the early 60's when the entire 18-member U.S. figure skating team was killed in a plane crash on its way to the World Figure Skating Championships in Prague. Since that time it's my understanding that even football teams, etc don't fly all their members on the same flight.

Sparky

26th March 2014, 20:45

Quote Originally Posted by Sooz View Post
What I don't understand, is why the Freescale Semiconductor company would put 20 of their best and most valuable employees on the one plane?

People in the know, don't do that.

BabaRa: I've had the exact thought, Sooz - smart companies don't do that - and these were 'supposedly' very bright people.

They made the trip many times; might say it was routine. What was different on this run was what accompanied them secured in the hold, or cargo bay if you prefer.

The reason I suggested to learn about SERCO, their subsidiary companies, their relationships with world governments, would help you connect dots.

Case in point: SERCO was given control of the US Patent Office (via contract) a while back.
When Hillary Clinton was working at the Rose Law Firm, she wrote changes to patent law.
The reason it's difficult to grasp many current events, we are missing the past that produced them.

LAST YEAR'S NEWS
RESTON, Va., March 18, 2013

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/serco-processes-2-millionth-patent-application-for-us-patent-and-trademark-office-198805441.html
Serco Inc. 1818 Library Street, Suite 1000, Reston VA 20190
� 2012 Serco Inc.
In honor of the 2 millionth patent being processed, U.S. Congressman Bob Goodlatte personally visited the facility and congratulated Serco's PGPubs team for their support. "America is the world leader in innovation and creativity," said Congressman Goodlatte. "The strength of our economy and American jobs rely on our ability to protect new inventions through the patent system and build on innovation in the 21st century. Congratulations to Serco's PGPubs team on achieving this milestone and helping to make America more competitive."
http://www.serco.com/
http://www.serco.com/media/pressreleases/index.asp

Sooz, your post #73 - 13-03-2014, 11:10 AM
Did you know you nailed it earlier this month? Don't doubt what your feeling. Also, the Christmas Island Prison Riot, SERCO had kitchen workers (kids under 18) put on blue shirts to create the appearance of a large prison guard staff. We have no concept our employer would put us in harms way around age 20 and signing confidentiality agreements as a condition of employment guarantees we will keep our lips zipped.
http://jandeane81.com/threads/2256-Plane-gone-missing-from-Kuala-Lumpur-to-Beijing?p=16131&viewfull=1#post16131

Besides SERCO, there are other big companies most people never heard of like DTCC, who in 2012 controlled 1.6 Quadrillion. I remember a few years ago it was only 7 Trillion, then 20 Trillion.
http://www.dtcc.com/annuals/2012/business-reviews.html

PS: Remember Gerald Celente a few years ago talking about John "the slime" Corzine, Obama's buddy and MF Global CEO? Corzine stole billions of cash from their MF Global customer accounts and should have gone to jail. Didn't even get his wrist smacked. It's these huge corporations, subsidiaries many have never heard of who partnered with global governments.

BabaRa

26th March 2014, 21:27

Holy Macaroni! . . . how does a private company get control of the U.S. Patent office? . . . sad state of affairs

norman

27th March 2014, 01:49

I'm sure the pilot was in on it. Probably one or two more too.

What seems fairly obvious to me though, is that the pilot, and whoever else on board who helped get the plane to Diego Garcia, would not live for long with a secret like that.

They were fools.

Being tapped by the secret service is a mug's game. An attempt was made to tap me when I was 20. More by good luck than suss, I walked away from it. It's taken me decades to join the dots and work out what that was all about.

If your bloodline isn't the right kind, they only want you as a burnable patsy. and I was a perfect naive kid with subversive tendencies.

How the hell do the military squaddies who fill a hole in the ground with nearly 300 dead innocents sleep at night. No wonder they are easy recruitment pray for private armies later on.

Sooz

27th March 2014, 01:55

I'd love to hear your story Norman, if you should feel so inclined? (Open a new thread?)

Spiral

27th March 2014, 09:12

This'll blow yer socks off !

Israel has a Malaysian Airlines 777 in storage !!!

Make copies of this stuff & save lives, this is serious, spread it around & stop them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZhSmYAvugU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWYANJzVJvY

Please take screenshots of these pages in the links below.

http://www.planelogger.com/Aircraft/View?Registration=N105GT&DeliveryDate=04.10.13

http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Boeing/777/28416,N105GT-GA-Telesis-php

http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Boeing/777/index.php?p=2

Highland1

27th March 2014, 09:20

Probably irrelevant, but just found this..........

Masonic numbers, Satanic versus, and the Truth about predictive programming~
Shhhhhh the Zionists/Satanists run Hollywood~
QUESTION OF THE DAY:
Is Hollywood Hexing and Spelling future events like they are looking into crystal ball or reading Tarot cards?
Or is the public viewing the Hollywood movies and manifesting the visions we see on the screen into our realities?
Is thought the seed of action that creates our world or is everything we see scripted in advance?
110 is an auspicious number......
Man of Steel = 110
Adolf Hitler = 110
Osama Bin Laden = 110
There were 110 Floors in each of the Twin Towers.

518

Russ

Sooz

27th March 2014, 10:18

With regard to Dahboo 7 vids, I'm confused. The actual plane is in Israel, delivered in Nov 2013.

So what was the plane that went down? Sorry I'm not computing...can anyone enlighten me.

Spiral

27th March 2014, 11:05

With regard to Dahboo 7 vids, I'm confused. The actual plane is in Israel, delivered in Nov 2013.

So what was the plane that went down? Sorry I'm not computing...can anyone enlighten me.

It's not the plane that has disappeared, but it is a Boeing 777 in Malaysian Airlines paint because thats who Telesis bought it off & then put it in storage back in October last year !

Boeing 777-2H6(ER) N105GT GA Telesis 21-10-2013 Stored 9M-MRI

This is the actual plane now in Tel Aviv, why have they got it & for what ?????

http://img.planespotters.net/media/photos/original/053000/PlanespottersNet_053291.jpg

KosmicKat

27th March 2014, 12:39

OK, I've been waiting to see if anyone else spotted this. It would be a classic example of "first we announce, but discreetly, then we do".

In the BBC's new Sherlock series (series 2 IIRC) Sherlock is consulted by a cluster of people who have not been allowed to see the bodies of their deceased relatives. To avoid embarrassing the government, his brother Mycroft is obliged to show him a "mothballed" aircraft being filled with the missing bodies in preparation for ... what?

Tribe

27th March 2014, 12:44

Oh that just gave me shivers yes I remember KK !

Highland1

27th March 2014, 16:49

OMG! Why did we not think of this?

522522

This is the joke thread right? :eyebrows:

Russ

Darn it again, mods please enlarge this picture it has mirth value all over it!

BabaRa

27th March 2014, 22:51

Will Israel crash a 777 into a building and blame Iran?

I'm not familiar with these 2 guys. Picked them up on Veterans today website. They discuss many false flag stories besides the Malaysian plane story which begins around 4:00.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hrWkCsR9iw

The One

27th March 2014, 23:04

norman

27th March 2014, 23:43

How long to find the debris

Something smells big time i kid you not,Bad weather you name it they are stalling big time.Also how long did it say it would take to get where they are 5 hours was it.Why not ask the gps tracking device for mobiles what was going on or where was that plane.How many mobiles phones would have been on that plane

cheers

The Southern Indian Ocean is becoming a new euphemism to match "the long grass".

Where politicians and power brokers kick things when they need to play for time.

It's giving the operators behind this still unfolding project time to get their ducks in a row. My hunch is that the biggest part of this is yet to come.

As long as they are busy "looking" for the 'wreckage' the plane can still re appear. Or, if they bottle out due to too much public awareness ( which there isn't yet ), they can proceed to ditch the plane down there or drop off alternative similar looking wreckage.

They have their options wide open still.

modwiz

28th March 2014, 00:45

The Southern Indian Ocean is becoming a new euphemism to match "the long grass".

Where politicians and power brokers kick things when they need to play for time.

Agreed. It is like the new Never-Never Land. Maybe Tinkerbell and Peter Pan will help out.:rolleyes:

Sooz

28th March 2014, 02:05

norman

28th March 2014, 03:57

Here is the latest from Project Camelot, fresh out of the oven.

Haven't listened to this yet, but it should be interesting:

http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/31-kerrys-blog/2049-missing-flight-370-now-on-youtube

The main point I get from listening to that is the near certainty that you just can't loose a plane like that, implicating the highest levels of intel in the disappearance of the plane because they are not saying where it is.

I guess I already knew that.

Oh !... and the Galactic Federation says hi :) ..... and the passengers are quite safe and being transferred to 5th density.:piggy:

Sooz

28th March 2014, 05:01

This is a really good boil-down, to date and resonates with me big time.

http://www.rense.com/general96/tinymicro.html

Meanwhile in other updates, Malaysia had admitted to a cover up (will get link in a minute*), and the search has now been dramatically moved.

Unreal.

Edit: Vid from our mate, Dahbo7
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=303660o7

The One

29th March 2014, 05:45

Malaysia says there's sealed evidence on MH370 that cannot be made public

http://www.straitstimes.com/sites/straitstimes.com/files/imagecache/story-gallery-featured/20140326/nnfamily263e.jpg
Steven Wang, a family member of a passenger onboard Malaysia Airlines MH370, is surrounded by the media outside Lido Hotel in Beijing March 26, 2014. A Malaysian air force general has told relatives of Chinese passengers on board the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that there was sealed evidence that cannot be made public. --

BEIJING - A Malaysian team have told relatives of Chinese passengers on board the missing Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 that there was sealed evidence that cannot be made public, as they came under fire from the angry relatives at a briefing on Wednesday.

The sealed evidence included air traffic control radio transcript, radar data and airport security recordings.

The briefing at the Metropark Lido Hotel in Beijing focused on UK satellite analysis which led Malaysia to conclude that flight MH370 ended in south Indian Ocean, off Perth.

The Chinese relatives were told that a five-member high-level team from Malaysia plans to brief them once every five days. The team include MAS pilot Lim Jit Koon and senior civil aviation official Ahmad Nizar Zolfakar.

During the question-and-answer session, a relative said: "Thanks for demonstrating your ability to read every word out of the powerpoint slides."

Another asked: "If the info is from UK satellite firm Inmarsat, does it mean the Malaysia team cannot answer our questions on the MH370 analysis?"

Faced with the barrage of questions from the angry relatives, the MAS team replied: "We can answer but we might not be correct as we're not the investigators":

They said Malaysia had requested for the British experts to join them for the briefing in Beijing but the latter declined.

They assured the relatives that the search and rescue operations for the plane have been stepped up but the hunt has been challenging as the search area is huge.

The Malaysian government and MAS have been criticised for their handling of the disappearance of MH370 on March 8. They have been accused of being slow in disseminating information and not revealing everything about the incident.

Prime Minister Najib Razak said on Monday night that based on latest UK data analysis, the plane had gone down in a remote part of the southern Indian Ocean.

"We demand you retract announcement that MH370 ended in south Indian Ocean and continue search-and-rescue operations,'' one relative said at the briefing.

Some family representatives targeted Malaysian envoy Iskandar Sarudin, asking him: "You expect us to accept a report you cannot defend?"

"No comment,'' said Mr Iskandar.

He again declined to comment when asked "how do you expect us to feel friendly towards Malaysia?"

Upset by the response from the Malaysia team, a relative said: "You have once again left us speechless!"

Wednesday's briefing was the first time the media were allowed to attend.

The relatives also accused MAS of not providing enough assistance to them.

"Two-thirds of MH370 passengers are Chinese but only 50 caregivers?" asked a relative.

An airline official explained that they have had problem finding volunteers to help out.

When asked why the MAS office at the hotel was closed on Tuesday, the MAS officials said they were advised by the Chinese government not to be there given the tense mood among the relatives.

http://www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/missing-mas-plane/story/malaysia-says-theres-sealed-evidence-mh370-cannot-be-made-publ

Sooz

29th March 2014, 07:40

What a right royal FU.

The plane nor the black box will ever be found. Well that is, on main stream news....

I hope the relatives get real angry and I hope they are following alternative news and scouring forums for information the MSN is not giving them.

If I was a family member of one of the (supposedly lost), my anger would be white hot, not red hot.

Someone suggested that the family members should hijack* a plane with 'dignitaries' on board and demand to know what the Malaysian government is hiding, or any government for that matter. As I said before, you can't tell me Pine Gap, Diego Garcia or any other military installation does not know what happened to that flight.

(*I'm not suggesting that btw). But people in desperate situations, do desperate things.

I think we all know what happened anyway. But sadly it's not public knowledge.

KosmicKat

29th March 2014, 12:24

The plane nor the black box will ever be found. Well that is, on main stream news....

BBC news this morning suggests the Chinese are hoping to recover the black box before assistance from other nations arrives.

Someone suggested that the family members should hijack* a plane with 'dignitaries' on board and demand to know what the Malaysian government is hiding, or any government for that matter.

Don't forget what the British government did during the prime ministership of John Major (a questionable figure himself)
Britain’s Cover-Up of Inside Job in Fatal RAF Chinook Crash (http://www.globalresearch.ca/britain-s-cover-up-of-inside-job-in-fatal-raf-chinook-crash/27828)

norman

30th March 2014, 00:26

I heard a recent snippet on the beeb that the Chinese ship has pulled something out of the water, AT LAST !

I can't work out if the Chinese are trying to expose this cabal operation or if they are part of it. Or, possibly, very slight, not got a clue that it's been "droned" to a US base etc etc.

I'm puzzled by the news that there is a twin plane in Israel. That could be a counter spook show, though.

Watch the skies and pay attention, this is quite a dangerous scenario, until there is definite wreckage hauled home from somewhere.

Spiral

30th March 2014, 09:04

Its now so long since MH370 disappeared that wreckage is not proof of anything, it could have been put there by a plane, a ship, a submarine or they could have flown the plane from where ever (Diego Garcia) & crashed it into the sea by remote control (this plane was built with the ability to be remote controlled).

The "sealed evidence" is Malaysia's way of saying "something dodgy has happened, but our hands are tied" IMO

I don't know if I posted this on here that they will end up saying the plane & the black boxes are here (conveniently) ;

The ocean's continental shelves are narrow, averaging 200 kilometres (125 mi) in width. An exception is found off Australia's western coast, where the shelf width exceeds 1,000 kilometres (600 mi). The average depth of the ocean is 3,890 m (12,762 ft). Its deepest point is Diamantina Deep in Diamantina Trench, at 8,047 m (26,401 ft) deep

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Diamantinapstoedit.svg/685px-Diamantinapstoedit.svg.png

They certainly said on TV that the remote control subs can work down to @6000meters...................so too deep to get the black boxes....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamantina_Trench

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamantina_Deep

Sooz

30th March 2014, 11:22

I just watched 60 minutes in Oz on the missing plane, sanitised version of course. All BS and no answers to questions.

Of course this version will be transferred all around the world on mainstream TV. Big mystery...this will play out for years to come on the history channel.

I plan on emailing all my friends tomorrow on what I think went on, given my research. No doubt, none will reply, or will reply and say I am a conspiracy theorist (even though I will back it up with data).

Ha ha, will be interesting...:D

Sooz

norman

30th March 2014, 15:53

Spiral

30th March 2014, 16:44

That's all true but if they do fake the evidence for a ditching in the ocean, it'll rule out a second episode of using the plane in a fake terrorist attack.

I don't think they would expect us to believe two opposing scenarios.

Or, they can just carry on as they are with spurious sightings of "stuff" floating with nothing conclusive being actually pulled out of the sea, and just wait until we all get bored &/or something else takes over the news schedules.

Highland1

30th March 2014, 17:42

Partner of MH370 passenger acuses governments of cover up on BBC

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Partner of MH370 passenger accuses governments of cover up on BBC
In a BBC interview, the partner of missing passenger says that the MH370 flight was stolen and taken to an undisclosed location, due to the number of high-profile passengers aboard with ties to defence contractors.

Sarah Bajc, a 48-year-old American teacher recently appeared on BBC News to discuss the disappearance of her partner Phillip Wood.

Phillip Wood is one of the 277 passengers aboard the missing Malaysian flight. Sarah Bajc is among a large number of friends of family members who don�t believe official reports that the plane crashed and killed everyone inside.

The many governments involved in this investigation are not putting forward any evidence to the theories that they are suggesting, and to make matters even more confusing, the apparent evidence continues to change by the day.

During her interview on the BBC, Sarah Bajc not only said that the governments involved in the investigation were intentionally misleading the world, but she also called attention to the suspicious number of high-profile people aboard the plane, many of whom had connections with defense contractors.

As we reported earlier this week, there were at least 20 passengers on the plane who were �extremely talented and valuable� employees of Freescale Semiconductor Ltd., a Rothschild front group currently researching highly sensitive technology.

During the interview Sarah Bajc also said that there is no evidence that the plane crashed at all. She believes that the plane was stolen and taken somewhere, in order to kidnap the high-profile people who were on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1zNy-5ESos

Russ

Spiral

30th March 2014, 18:34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hcpYYpOXgs

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-30/recovery-ships-find-rubbish-as-flight-370-hunt-continues.html

Sooz

31st March 2014, 09:23

Sooz

31st March 2014, 09:58

Mmmm.....scroll down to where it says.....'this site does not use adobe....

THIS SITE DOES NOT USE ADOBE. THE ADOBE POP UP IS A DIRTY TRICK BEING PLAYED BY SOMEONE WHO HATES THE SAN JOAQUIN ARTICLE. IN RESPONSE, THE SAN JOAQUIN ARTICLE WILL REMAIN TOP POSTED UNTIL MONDAY. DO NOT CLICK THE ADOBE POP UP, IT DOES NOT BELONG AND IS PROBABLY NOT ADOBE. UPDATE: THE PHILIP WOOD ARTICLE HAS TRIGGERED NSA ENFORCED REDIRECTS OF THIS WEB SITE TO DISGUSTING PHOTOS, THE FINAL NAIL

Should I be scared? Should I have posted this at all?:nails:

Oh, well I just have...:D

Could be that Jim Stone has to post some ludicrous stuff (disinformation mixed with truth) in order to get the truth out, like many other whistleblowers do?

Mods, do what you think is best if you think this post needs editing or the one above.

well i think
some caution should be taken when visiting the site not to click on the adobe pop up ! :Tribe

KosmicKat

31st March 2014, 11:51

If it's worth causing that much trouble, it's worth some careful consideration.

norman

31st March 2014, 18:46

Thank you Sooz.

Isn't Jim Stone the same guy who told us Planet X was going to clobber us in 2012?, or am I confusing him with someone else?

I know I want to believe this story but I'm not sure I do yet.

If it had been the older and smoother iphone 3g it might have been more credible ;)

Also, my logical processes are assaulted by the idea that the people who processed the passengers at Diego Garcia DIDN'T scan or do cavity searches.

I won't rule this out, but it's a flaky story for now.

Spiral

31st March 2014, 19:07

OK, first came across this today on ATS and quickly dismissed it, when this guy said he hid is iphone up his jacksy:tiphat: (yep, I'm not kidding, lol).

It's also been discussed at that other place across the pond where it has been dismissed. But all day I've been thinking....what if? Heck, we discuss all manner of weird and wonderful things on here, this is not outside the realms of possibility? But it does scream 'hoax', I know.

But then again, truth is stranger than fiction. Then I found this below on Jim Stone's page, see link.

I dunno. :whstl: So I'm posting for entertainment value and/or something to look into. What do you think?

What if this actually WAS true and everyone shoved* it off as a hoax?:o

Scroll down to 'Hijacked IBM passenger, Phillip Wood, dialled out of Diego Garcia....'

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/ some caution should be taken on this site as there is a Adobe pop up that shouldnt be clicked onto : Tribe

*Edit - 'Shoved it', sorry, unfortunate choice of words there....:getcoat:
(Freudian slip?)

This link is fine for me, but I do have addblocker (set to max) I got no pop up, but I did see that that page has had over 2 million hits ! (due to another add on on my browser)

Is it legit ? Who knows, but Diego Garcia is my bet as to where the plane is.

A poopy phone in a head bag is not my idea of fun, but then being held captive by black ops nasties must he horrific, I hope they get out alive & the people behind this get busted big time.

Sooz

31st March 2014, 22:09

Just found several interesting links of Phillip Wood's partner on BBC, suggesting a cover up.

Only listened to first vid, but there are several other links. Have to dash out to work....

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=303924

Here's the video: Babs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1zNy-5ESos

Sooz

1st April 2014, 01:34

Here's another take - what about China? Was it also a warning to China not to agitate for the Yuan to become the reserve currency?

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=303973

Spiral

1st April 2014, 08:13

This is the man who brought you "fake snow" on the Philip Wood story.............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp6fat42An8

:whstl:

Tribe

1st April 2014, 20:05

(NaturalNews) As the facts about MH370 slowly emerge, it is increasingly apparent that the Malaysian government has been -- and continues to be -- involved in an elaborate cover-up that falsified and hid evidence the public deserves to know about the fate of Flight 370 passengers.

The government openly admitted this, in fact. "A Malaysian team have told relatives of Chinese passengers on board the missing Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 that there was sealed evidence that cannot be made public, as they came under fire from the angry relatives at a briefing on Wednesday," reported the Straights Times.(1)

Why would a government seal evidence concerning the fate of MH370? It would only do so if it didn't want the public to see that evidence, of course. This is typically done under circumstances of national security or military secrets. We all have to wonder: what evidence is there concerning MH370 that the Malaysian government would not want to be made public? And why?

Pilot transcript altered, mischaracterized for weeks

We also know that the Malaysian government altered the pilot transcript, misleading the public for weeks about the sign-off words uttered by either the pilot or the copilot. The government's claim that the pilot said, "all right goodnight" turned out to be false. This strange-sounding sign-off was apparently floated by the Malaysia government to support its contention that the pilot was suicidal and departing from customary communications protocols.

But now, we've learned the pilots actually said, "Good night, Malaysian three seven zero."(3)

It is, of course, impossible to misconstrue "Good night, Malaysian three seven zero" as "all right goodnight." This means the Malaysian government deliberately altered the pilot transcript and fed disinfo to the public. This charade continued for weeks until public pressure finally forced the government to release the real transcript .

Families of MH370 victims not fooled by deceptive Malaysian government

The families of MH370 passengers are, of course, outraged at the increasingly apparent deceptions being pushed by the Malaysian government. As the Straights Times reports:

Some family representatives targeted Malaysian envoy Iskandar Sarudin, asking him: "You expect us to accept a report you cannot defend?"

"No comment,'' said Mr Iskandar.

He again declined to comment when asked "how do you expect us to feel friendly towards Malaysia?"

Upset by the response from the Malaysia team, a relative said: "You have once again left us speechless!"

The Malaysian government is now engaged in a stonewalling exercise to deliberately prevent the public from learning the truth.

Governments routinely deceive the People and withhold crucial evidence

This is how governments routinely operate, by the way. Here in the USA, this is exactly the same response thousands of building architects and engineers got when trying to ask intelligent questions about how Building 7 collapsed in the 9/11 attacks.(4)

The entire "9/11 Truth Movement," in fact, grew out of the U.S. government's unwillingness to honestly and openly review the evidence of what happened in those attacks. Now, MH370 has become Malaysia's 9/11, complete with the government stonewalling honest questions posed by concerned, intelligent people about what really happened.

Why do governments always have to lie? Because they are almost always engaged in nefarious activities and cover-ups which must be kept from public scrutiny. The altered pilot transcript, secret "sealed" evidence and absurd secrecy of the Malaysian government's response to current events is indicative of the arrogance and disdain with which world governments treat "the little people" (their constituents).

It's also why a global trend toward civil war, civil disobedience and popular revolts is now on the rise. The "Age of Civil Unrest" is upon us, experts now warn.(5) Everywhere on the globe, people are fed up with governments that routinely lie to them about everything while brutally attacking innocent people through militarized police departments that assault civilians as if they were military targets.(6)

What the Malaysian government elite are doing to families of MH370 passengers, world governments are doing to everybody: lying, stonewalling and concealing the truth.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/044542_MH370_Malaysian_government_concealing_evide nce.html#ixzz2xfNb8Aya

BabaRa

1st April 2014, 20:25

Here's another take - what about China? Was it also a warning to China not to agitate for the Yuan to become the reserve currency?

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=303973

Here's the article. Good points.

Posting the article, Babs. . . .. .Good points IMO

I’ve been trying to sort this out with logic.

If the plane was hijacked and then flown to a remote location, who would be able to do it and why would they want to? It’s a logistical nightmare. Imagine having to feed and house 239 people, or dispose of them, as the case may be. Surely there are easier ways to get an airplane. The first logical conclusion that I came to was that IT’S NOT ABOUT THE PLANE.

So, what about the PEOPLE? Why so many Chinese? Who’s out to get China?

There’s the patent conspiracy. Supposedly, the passengers included 4 of the 5 holders of a high-tech patent: Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX. The remaining patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor (the company), which is owned by Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone. Snopes declares this theory FALSE, but if you read on, that’s not what they’re really saying. There’s a lot of TRUE in that FALSE.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/malaysiapatent.asp

BIRD #1: THE BANKERS GET THEIR PATENT.

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It’s no secret that China would like to see the Yuan become a world reserve currency. If that happened, it would do more than rival the western currencies; it would rival the Banking System. Throughout this whole episode, I have found China’s silence bewildering. What if they know more than they’re saying? Maybe they’ve gotten the message.

BIRD #2: THE BANKERS MAKE CHINA THINK TWICE ABOUT BECOMING A FINANCIAL POWER.

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Finally, who did it? We (the U.S.) are the only ones with the technology and resources to hijack a plane and fly it “by wire” to a remote location. WE DID IT. THE BANKERS HAVE TAKEN OVER OUR GOVERNMENT.

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BabaRa

1st April 2014, 20:32

norman

2nd April 2014, 00:00

There's no flies on old Dick Gregory. The first Negro to run for US president and has been on Hoover's hit list and lived to tell the tale.

Here he tells his take on the missing plane:

http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/k2t6yk0uz0/Dick_Gregory.mp3

norman

3rd April 2014, 22:50

This thread has gone cool lately so I think it needs a bump.

This full text paste-in from a previous link is a very worthy candidate for a full revue by readers here. This time, think of cyborgs, drones the size of mosquitoes, RFID chips and the like...... in other words, VERY VERY SMALL tech'..........

Bold emphasis is mine.

A Tiny Microchip Was The Likely
Motive For Pentagon Hijack Of MH370

By Yoichi Shimatsu
3-25-14

HONG KONG - The question tormenting millions of cyber-sleuths is Why? What could be the motive behind the elaborate plan for the midair capture of Malaysian Airlines flight 370?

Among the 200-plus passengers bound for Beijing, the target group for the hijack is narrowing down to 20 tech employees working for Freescale Semiconductors, based in Austin, Texas. Among these programmers and systems designers are 12 Malaysians and 8 citizens of mainland China.

The company is no newcomer but has long-time connections in East Asia, as the former design subsidiary of Motorola, which once dominated the Asian communications market in the postwar era. Freescale has design centers in Kuala Lumpur and in China, including Beijing, Tianjin, Shanghai, Chengdu and Suzhou.

Besides its lucrative production of microchips for automotive components, Freescale has extensive contracts with the U.S. military, producing wafers and circuits for navigation, periscopes, electronic targeting, self-guided missiles and other weapons systems that require intelligence controls.

Any defense-related company at the nerve center of Pentagon hardware is bound to attract the attention of weapons designers from both adversarial and allied nations upgrading their military capability. Japan, France and the UK, along with Russia, China and Iran, all want the leading edge that contractors like Freescale provide.

What technological innovation would prompt the Pentagon's military intelligence agencies to electronically interdict a civilian airliner in mid-flight, while disposing of the collateral passengers as shark bait?

Ultra-small Microcontoller

In February 2013, Freescale unveiled the Kinesis KL02, the world's smallest microcontroller, measuring 1.9 mm by 2mm and containing RAM, ROM and a clock. The company brags that the device is so small that it can be swallowed for medical uses, such as releasing drugs according to prescription schedule or directing micro-surgery.

Tiny though it may be, the micro-controller is the key to next-generation warfare based on self-guidance, tactical versatility and hierarchy of commands, in short, an adaptive thinking weapon that can outsmart foes. Potential applications include:

- Drones smaller than a fly, either as remotes or autonomously, on surveillance missions or to deliver biowarfare packets, for example, lab-cloned viruses or toxic drugs. Their light weight means longer flying periods or even indefinite hovering time if solar-powered.

- Injectable implants to insert a human-machine interface, for example, a targeting system attached to the optic nerve, rendering Google glasses obsolete. Bionic implants could be implanted in nerves of the limbs to control battery-powered prosthetics, realizing the Pentagon's dream of a human-centered robotic warrior, known to anime fans as "meka".

- Maneuverable micro-satellites and mini-submarines that can be operated as drones or act independently to track and hunt larger weapons systems, spy satellites too small to be detected by ground telescopes, and orbiting warheads containing chemical, biological or nuclear materials.

Strategic Versus Commercial Interest

Tje series code of Kinesis KL02 stands for Version 2 made in Kuala Lumpur, which is the capital of Malaysia. This core of America's next-gen weapons systems was developed overseas, in a Muslim-preponderant country economically allied with China, Russia and Japan and often at odds with US foreign policy. Therefore, an upcoming round of testing in China, and possible manufacture of Version 3 in Beijing, was a prospect that the Pentagon agencies, especially the NSA, the US Air Force's Space Command and DARPA, had to stop by any means available.

As Freescale Malaysia prepared to test Kinesis at its sister research labs in Beijing and Tianjin, alarm bells were sounding at the DARPA-funded Charles Stark Draper Laboratory in n Cambridge, Massachusetts. That leading weapons-research facility was created during World War II to build navigation systems and bomb sights stabilized against turning and vibrations by inertia. It has since moved on to microchips for every military application, including inertial guidance for ballistic missiles, communications, GPS, intelligent targeting systems, orbital piloting for the International Space Station and, under the cover of "biomedical", the transhuman super-soldier program.

The release of Kinesis exposed the Pentagon's dilemma over dual-use technology, which can garner vast profits through civilian applications, as shown by GPS for cars and smartphones, yet threaten to wipe out America's technological lead in warfare. The choice of whether to down on a new technology is not limited to Pentagon insiders and generals, since defense contractors and elite corporate executives are also involved.

Dirty Work for Israel

In the case of Freescale, the executive management and several veteran board members are connected with the Carlyle Group, which favors civilian commercialization of defense-related technologies to benefit its investment partners, including George Bush Senior and several retired defense secretaries.

On the other hand, Freescale is financially contolled by private-equity group Blackstone, with major investors including the Rothschild banking family and several of its business partners. As top financiers behind the Zionist movement, the pro-Israeli interest is to prevent miniaturized robotic weapons from falling into the hands of Iran and its allies Hezbollah and Hamas. Micro-vehicles, self-guided and with tactical flexibility, swarming against Israeli cities, ports and airfields would be a nightmare for the Israel Defense Force.

Therefore, the defenders of the Jewish state had to take action. Better to kill 200 Malaysian enemies and Chinese nobodies than to harm one hair on the head of any of the Chosen People. And thus, the order came down from the Red Shield, the House of Rothschild, to their neocon subordinates inside the Pentagon: Stop Flight 370 at any cost to America's reputation.

The New Boss

Thus, in November, just a few months before the MH370 hijack, Freescale seated a new member on its Board of Directors. Joanne Maguire is an executive with three decades of experience in the Lockheed Martin Space Division. She studied electrical engineering at University of Michigan and UCLA, where she earned her master's degree. She was invited to the Harvard Program for Senior Executives in National and International Security. Caltech honored her with the Karmann Wings Award and she received the Peter Teets Award from the National Defense Industrial Association.

As the very embodiment of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), Maguire was the ideal choice to serve as watchdog against the corporate profiteers at Freescale.

Hijacking the Truth

There is no point in further disparagement of the pilot and co-pilot of the ill-fated flight, given their political connections with a compromised opposition beholden to the colonial past. The practicing with landing at Diego Garcia on the pilot's flight simulator indicates a deep background with the Western intelligence services and probably Israeli espionage operating out of Singapore.

Whatever the role of the plane crew, the NSA and US Air Force Space Command do not need manned piloting, except to maintain the appearance of normality at takeoff from Kuala Lumpur International Airport. As discussed in my earlier article, voice communication and navigational signals would have been disabled by a burst of powerful narrow-aperture radar used for electromagnetic warfare. The cockpit computer would then be reprogrammed, using Boeing's own emergency piloting system, expanded with Pentagon and Israeli software.

From the South China Sea to Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, the jetliner would be remote-controlled by a drone operator. Its unscheduled flight path would be tracked and subsequently removed from data records by the NSA listening posts in Sri Lanka and the Jindalee eavesdropping facility in northwest Australia. Radar stations in the Maldives, installed under a US maritime accord, served to guide the jetliner to the southernmost atoll of the archipelago toward Diego Garcia, immediately to the south.

The airliner's descent over the Maldives, according to witnesses, went smoothly, for a safe landing on the long tarmac at the US Air Force Base on Diego Garcia Island, a CIA rendition center with underground hangars and prison used during the Iraq and Afghan wars.

Upon arrival, the passengers would be herded into separate waiting areas, with the prize captives from Freespace sent to a debriefing facility, where their hard drives, laptops and smartphones would be confiscated and data downloaded, while the human intelligence assets were being questioned. The interrogators had a fairly easy task in telling the defenseless programmers: Join us or die with the rest.

The cooperative would be given a new identity, and reintroduction into civilian life in a remote North American community after being administered memory-erasing drugs, similar to the ones first developed in the MK-ULTRA program.

After vetting of all passengers, the uncooperative and high-risk suspects would be drowned and their corpses tossed near a phony "crash site", off the coast of Western Australia, while US submarines discharge other bits of "evidence" into the cold waters. The crew of the plane was probably rewarded with a short walk off the plank into the jaws of waiting sharks. Anyone who puts their trust in imperial power deserves no less.

Once the operation is completed and the media begin the mourning rituals, tearful American diplomats will attend memorial services for the missing victims of a tragic accident. Meanwhile, a cabal of Air Force officers and defense contractors will be clinking beer mugs with their former boss and guru, General Michael Hayden, the bureaucrat who militarize spaced and expanded the NSA into the global monstrosity that it has since become.

MH370 will be remembered on the History Channel as an unsolved riddle wrapped in mystery, but no TV station will mention the other code involved in this dreadful affair - KL02 - cause of the untimely deaths and mangled memories of any survivors.

Yoichi Shimatsu is a Hong Kong-based science writer, former editor of The Japan Times Weekly and a founding faculty member of journalism schools in Hong Kong and Beijing.

Sooz

4th April 2014, 07:08

Thanks Norman, for bumping this. And thanks for putting that transcript in full, I can't seem to do it on my computer. Just now I tried to thank your post and got a warning sign, and can't thank you, lol!

That information was quite significant I think, that you posted from my link.

Here is breaking news just in, on mainstream media here in Oz....very interesting to say the least.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-malaysian-authorities-hiding-information-says-anwar-ibrahim-20140404-zqqy1.html

Got something else from Jim Stone as well...back in a minny.;)

Edit: Oh, now it's posted, it's allowed me to post a thank you. Humbleness all round and deep bowing....lol

Sooz

4th April 2014, 07:16

BabaRa

4th April 2014, 17:35

Here is the latest from Jim Stone, he is standing firm on Philip Wood.

My thoughts are, (if I haven't said it before), if you were this guy, wouldn't you be ****ed off if for all your valiant efforts, no-one took you seriously?

Yes, it may be a hoax and then again, it may not be. A person's life is in jeopardy here. I would like to have egg on my face rather than not to have helped someone.

Read it....

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

Note: Here's the important part of Sooz's link - go to link for complete article.

I am actually tired of covering flight 370, I do not usually stick on a topic for this long. So last night I wanted to find a critical flaw in the story and hit a dead end - the Iphone's wifi. Even if Philip could not get a cell connection, there could still be wifi. Regardless of what is found in phone records or cell coverage, the wifi makes it impossible to disprove, the Philip Wood story is going to be immortal.
I guess I could talk about the cell service on Diego Garcia which according to the disinfo shills does not exist, but even National Geographic Magazine provides cell coverage for Diego Garcia, the lie about how Philip could not have dialed out, especially with a phone that was probably provided by IBM and would have the best possible travel coverage is so nauseatingly stupid they might as well give up with it. But they wont. And the possibility of wifi makes it all moot anyway. They wont give up on shillage as silly as no cell coverage even if they can fool the bottom 5 percent with something that ridiculous because five percent is five percent and if they spout 20 lies that fool 5 percent each, they get everyone. That's their job.

So rather than continue beating the same story day after day just to argue with paid government disinfo shills I am going to call this one over 90 percent probable, the site hacks and outright lies in all the shillage alone strongly support this being true. Ultimately we can't get the final answer without busting into the military complex at Diego Garcia, and that would take world war 3 to accomplish.

And yes, I have the National Geographic Talk Abroad page for Diego Garcia cached, after what happened with the hack on Philip's picture I am not giving the liars and scammers another chance.

This proves that Diego Garcia allows outside sellers to sell their services. And it's cold hard proof of cell coverage on Diego Garcia, which the shills deny exists. And if DG allows outside vendors to sell their services, then IBM probably has a blanket contract set up by a company that ferrets out all the locations cell coverage might be needed, and makes sure it works via various agreements with various cell contractors EVERYWHERE. You CANNOT send an IBM executive out at random and have his cell phone not work, it has to work wherever he goes and IBM would have taken care of that. If National Geographic can get this sorted out, you can safely bet IBM can and you can't tell me IBM is NOT on Diego Garcia with a support contract somewhere to boot, which would guarantee it would all work, they are EVERYWHERE, #1.

BabaRa

4th April 2014, 17:41

FLIGHT MH370: UNDERWATER SEARCH BEGINS

Note: the Bold print below is mine: How convenient: Now that the battery life of the black box dwindles, and is about to die, they begin looking for it!

The search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in remote seas off Australia headed underwater Friday, with a U.S. Navy high tech "black box" locator deployed for the first time as the battery life of the plane's cockpit data recorder dwindles.

Australian authorities said the so-called Towed Pinger Locator will be pulled behind navy ship HMAS Ocean Shield, searching a converging course on a 150-mile track with British hydrographic survey ship HMS Echo.

But the head of the joint agency coordinating the search acknowledged that the search area was essentially just a best guess — and noted that time was running out for search crews to find the coveted data recorders.

"The locater beacon will last about a month before it ceases its transmissions — so we're now getting pretty close to the time when it might expire," said Angus Houston.

On Monday it will be 30 days since the jetliner lost communications and disappeared from civilian radar less than an hour into an overnight flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8.

Because the U.S. Navy's pinger locator can pick up black box signals up to a depth of 20,000 feet, it should be able to hear the devices even if they are lying in the deepest part of the search zone — about 19,000 feet below the surface. But that's only if the locator gets within range of the black boxes — a tough task, given the size of the search area and the fact the pinger locator must be dragged slowly through the water at just 1 to 5 knots, or 1 to 6 miles per hour.

"The area of highest probability as to where the aircraft might have entered the water is the area where the underwater search will commence," Houston told reporters in Perth. “It's on the basis of data that only arrived very recently and it's the best data that is available."

Finding floating wreckage is key to narrowing the search area, as officials can then use data on ocean currents to try and backtrack to the spot where the Boeing 777 hit the water — and where the black boxes may be. The devices would provide crucial information about what condition the plane was flying under and any communications or sounds in the cockpit.

But with no wreckage found despite weeks of searching, officials can't be confident that they're looking for the black boxes in the right place, said Geoff Dell, discipline leader of accident investigation at Central Queensland University in Australia.

"They might be lucky and they might start smack bang right over the top of it," Dell said. "But my guess is that on the balance of probabilities, that's not going to be the case and they're in for a lengthy search."
Complete article: http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/4/4/flight-mh370-malaysiaflightunderwatersearch.html

Sooz

5th April 2014, 08:14

A very interesting update for those who are interested:

Girlfriend of Philip Wood -

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=304418

Spiral

5th April 2014, 08:43

A very interesting update for those who are interested:

Girlfriend of Philip Wood -

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=304418

Following a link from a link.......Patent for remote control Boeings http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7142971.PN.&OS=PN/7142971&RS=PN/7142971

Sparky

5th April 2014, 08:59

The Malaysian police have just determined the missing plane is now a criminal case.

What does 9/11, 7/7 and missing MH370 have in common? Drills were taking place at the same time.

No pilot flying 3/8/14 is/was aware BUAP + ATI were installed on equipment they were flying REGARDLESS of Field McConnell�s lawsuit 7 years earlier in the public domain coupled with Boeing admitting to installing BUAP and ATI as a result of McConnell�s lawsuit.

BUAP (Boeing Uninterruptable Auto Pilot) when activated plane is remotely controlled via ground or Boeing E-4B Override, aka AWACS
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/up-to-2b-to-maintain-upgrade-usas-e4b-naoc-fleet-01671/
Click above link and watch videos if not familiar with plane history.

ATI (Automatic Tranquilizer Injector) triggered automatically after above activated causing pilots and passengers to sleep.

Interview with former 6 term Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney and former Malaysian Prime Minister aid and lawyer, Mathias spilling the beans that 2 military drills (Cope Tiger and Cobra Gold) were taking place when plane disappeared. He talks about who would have the motive and capability. This is a great listen as Malaysia did not participate in the second drill and have been dependent on foreign countries for information.
Shared publicly - Apr 3, 2014
https://plus.googleapis.com/_/im/+BMHC2CSi/posts/LbD36853NY5

Abel Danger originally shared this

While excerpts from relevant texts and references have been added in the notes below, McConnell has decided to offer whistleblower service to explain the jargon associated with Cope Tiger, Stealth, ZigBee and Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot technologies; identify the flash-override criminal authorities behind the MH 370 hijack, and, provide an expert witness service to prospective plaintiffs in any class action suits for damages in re wrongful deaths associated with apparent malfeasance in the fate of MH 370 by Serco, The Honourable Company of Air Pilots and the Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l (ALPA). He will testify that while flying as a Captain for Northwest Airlines before his CONSTRUCTIVE DISCHARGE he flew Airbus, Douglas or Boeing jets unaware that the UNINTERRUPTIBLE AUTOPILOT was aboard his aircraft and not trained in how to trigger it or the procedures to follow in event of a REMOTELY TRIGGERED CAPTURE as specified in US Patents 6965816 and 6845302, see below, and as experienced by the crews of Adam Air 574, Kenya Airways 507, Air France 447, Sukhoi Superjet 100 and MH370.
http://postimg.org/image/6twucg3jt/

lovernuts1
10 hours ago (edited)

The fact is, that we know absolutely nothing about the true fate of MH370, and all the vain conjecture about it thus far, including the recent distracting spin campaign piece from the Australian government, is just another pile of steaming horse **** that's costing participating nations (and taxpayers) billions. Aside from all the allusions to vague "super high-tech" satellite data, which, for mysterious reasons, cannot be disclosed, there isn't yet a single iota of proof that the plane ever actually crashed. No wreckage, no bodies... no nothing!

Meanwhile, in all this tragic circus, the possibility that the plane was "skyjacked" is never once ever mentioned, and some truly important relevant facts are being avoided like the plague!

Two elementary facts should be considered here:

(1.) At the time of MH370's "disappearance", the South China Sea was chuck full of military hardware with troops from eight nations engaged in two consecutive military exercises. First, Cobra Gold**, involving about 20,000 troops from Thailand, the United States, China, Singapore, Japan, Republic of Korea, Indonesia and Malaysia, followed by the Cope Tiger exercise involving Thailand, Singapore and the United States.

[**NOTE] The purpose of Cobra Gold was to further develop a multinational force team that responds to a simulated scenario, executing a pre-developed operations plan. Cobra Gold provides an opportunity for allied nations in the Asia-Pacific region to operate and work together so they can respond more efficiently and effectively to potential crises in the future.]

[Guess they haven't done too well, thus far, eh?]

See:
http://apdforum.com/en_GB/article/rmiap/articles/online/features/2014/03/11/cope-tiger-showcase
http://apdforum.com/en_GB/article/rmiap/articles/online/features/2014/03/11/cope-tiger-showcase

MH370 "disappeared" at the start of the Cope Tiger exercise, and the airways and seaways in the region were under very close surveillance, both before, during, and after these exercises. No planes could have flown willy-nilly in the Gulf of Thailand during that time period undetected. You can rest assured the US military covers its ass whenever it has its hardware in a region.

(2.) Since 2009, all Boeing aircraft have been equipped with a technology known as BUAP, Boeing Uninterruptible Auto Pilot. According to Boeing's own admission, this device can be activated by the pilot, or engaged via digital satellite link from the ground, or else military AWACS aircraft, and the civilian airliner can then safely be remotely flown digitally and landed in any one of 108 airports around the globe. Once the BUAP system is engaged, no one aboard the plane can disengage it, not even the pilot. [Surely many folks out there will write me nasty comments saying it's all a lie, but then they need to do some serious research on the matter to correct their faulty thinking.]

They can start improving their knowledge base by reading here:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/new-autopilot-will-make-another-911-impossible-7239651.html

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/new-autopilot-will-make-another-911-impossible-7239651.html

and here:
4-1-2014 Power Hour � Field McConnell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT5A7IakNuE

and finally here:
4-1-2014 Power Hour � Field McConnell � Ending Comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBIwQzPkkpo

These are some topics we should be informed about by the news media, and should be discussing; but then, the elite owners of the news corps and the jailers of our minds don't want us to realize that the technology to remote control planes has been used since 1995, as it could bring up pesky questions about the 911 case, and make people begin to wonder.

My point is: We should firstly be holding the airlines responsible for not instructing pilots about and using the already existing BUAP technology installed on their aircraft, that would have prevented this tragedy. Secondly, we should be grilling the governments whose military participated in the exercises present in the area, and at the very moment MH370 "disappeared" from radar screens, to ascertain what role they played (if any), and what they did to prevent it.

Please do your own research into this matter yourselves before drawing any conclusions. I've pointed you to the sources, so, you either believe it or you don't... that's up to you

Above was a �poster�s comments on one of the links who echos what Field McConnell states in his videos.

Fri Apr 4, 2014 2:00pm EDT � Fri Apr 4, 2014 3:30pm EDT
This video will sum up what is known about the criminal case and who may be responsible.
http://new.livestream.com/abeldanger/events/2893558

About

Plum City celebrates Abel Danger's contract re expert witness with party 5 April; Plum City � (AbelDanger.net) � April 3, 2014: United States Marine Field McConnell has linked Serco director Maureen Baginski�s role in the alleged hijacking of MH 370 to Diego Garcia on March 8, to Serco�s operation of the Defense Red Switch Network as a Mycroft Imperial Brian for the MI-3 Innholders Livery Company which appears to have given Boeing E-4B Override privileges to selected travelers in the Langham Hotel Chain. McConnell offers his services as an expert witness to explain the jargon associated with the E-4B Stealth, Flash Override and Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot technologies and connect the wrongful deaths in re MH 370 with the malfeasance of Serco, Boeing, The Honourable Company of Air Pilots and the Air Line Pilots Association, Int�l (ALPA).

When this link opens, click on the 2 photographs so they enlarge to read text:
http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/04/1910-marine-links-serco-mh-370-to-mi-3.html#more

BUAP - Now being discussed by other media

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/04/mh370chang/
MH370: Mainstream media CNN Discuss Boeing�s UNINTERRUPTIBLE AUTOPILOT (BUAP) - http://inquiringminds.cc/mh370-mainstream-media-cnn-discuss-boeings-uninterruptible-autopilot - CNN VIDEO HERE https://archive.org/details/CNNW_20140328_210000_The_Situation_Room#start/2940/end/3000

Spiral

5th April 2014, 11:10

:shocked:

Published on Apr 5, 2014

CNN's Erin Burnett talks with the partner of missing Malaysia Airlines passenger Philip Wood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWgH0I6osCo

Tribe

5th April 2014, 13:02

China's official news agency says a Chinese ship that is part of the multinational search effort looking for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane has detected a "pulse signal" in southern Indian Ocean waters.

The report said a black box detector deployed by the vessel, Haixun 01, picked up a signal at 37.5Hz per second on Saturday at around 25 degrees south latitude and 101 degrees east longitude, according to The Associated Press.

The report said it was not established whether that the signal was related to the missing jet.

The Australian government agency coordinating the search would not immediately comment on the report.

The Boeing 777 disappeared March 8 while en route from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing with 239 people aboard.

So far, no trace of the jet has been found.

Desperate search

A multinational team is desperately trying to find debris floating in the water or faint sound signals from the data recorders that could lead them to the missing plane and unravel the mystery of its fate.

Finding floating wreckage is key to narrowing the search area, as officials can then use data on currents to backtrack to where the plane hit the water, and where the flight recorders may be.

Beacons in the black boxes emit "pings" so they can be more easily found, but the batteries last for only about a month.

Officials have said the hunt for the wreckage is among the hardest ever undertaken, and will get much harder still if the beacons fall silent before they are found.

"Where we're at right now, four weeks since this plane disappeared, we're much, much closer,'' said aviation expert Geoffrey Thomas, editor-in-chief of AirlineRatings.com.

"But frustratingly, we're still miles away from finding it. We need to find some piece of debris on the water; we need to pick up the ping.''

If it doesn't happen, the only hope for finding the plane may be a full survey of the Indian Ocean floor, an operation that would take years and an enormous international operation.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2014/04/chinese-detect-pulse-signal-indian-ocean-20144512298724958.html

BabaRa

5th April 2014, 17:52

:shocked:

Published on Apr 5, 2014

CNN's Erin Burnett talks with the partner of missing Malaysia Airlines passenger Philip Wood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWgH0I6osCo

While I hope Philip Wood's girlfriend is correct in the assumption that these passengers are still alive, I find it difficult to believe.

If it were any type of a hostage situation, I believe demands would have been issued by now. If it were any of the other situations considered by the many at this point, I believe they were either killed by whoever took them, or the plane was allowed to crash - and again they would have died on impact. This is what my logical mind tells me.

OTOH, I always hold space for what we call miracles.

Sooz

6th April 2014, 08:40

I know everyone here and on all forums have 'MAS 370 fatigue'.

There never seems to be much information and if it is there, it's shot down in flames.

I for one, care about those families that have lost their loved ones, not knowing if they are alive or dead. I really feel for them, knowing they are scouring the internet for any skerrick of hints of where they may be, dead or alive.

Here is some more info.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=304490

Altaira

6th April 2014, 09:28

there have been some ideas that Woods girlfriend is an actress but I cant say this for sure. However shes is in every msm so might be true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpChNhC47h8

norman

6th April 2014, 10:53

Here is some more info.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=304490

"families of other MH370 passengers are starting to demand that Diego Garcia be searched."

That's an interesting twist, if true.

Spiral

6th April 2014, 11:12

They ought to look on the Cocos Islands too, there is a WW2 bomber hard airstrip there 1 & 1/2 miles long, which is right under the supposed official narrative flight path...........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocos_%28Keeling%29_Islands

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Cocos%28keeling%29_76.jpg/519px-Cocos%28keeling%29_76.jpg

Image courtesy of the CIA.

Tribe

6th April 2014, 15:36

UNREPORTED FACTS REGARDING Flight MH370 and the United States Military Base Diego Garcia:

* Diego Garcia is a US Military island base in the Indian Ocean
* Since MH370 has disappeared, Diego Garcia has never been mentioned to the public
* Diego Garcia has a fully operational runway and Airport
* Diego Garcia is 2,142 miles from Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia)
* The island was leased by Britain in 1966. It is due for renewal in 2014
* Diego Garcia flight co-ordinates were logged into the renown Pilot's Flight Plan Simulator
* The pilot's flight simulator has 'remote take-over' capabilities
* The data from the pilot's flight simulator has now been erased
* Flight MH370 was under 'suspicious cargo' surveillance by the GRU (Russian Main Intelligence)
* 20 of the passengers work for a company which specializes in futuristic warfare and technology
* Australian Military Radar Base: The Jindalee Operational Radar Network has the capabilities of detecting movements within a radius of 37,000km
* Malaysian authorities have pleaded with the US and Australia to release to them information from their top secret radar bases in Australia
* Island residents of the Maldives (647 miles north of Diego Garcia) reported seeing a huge low flying aircraft heading SOUTH which is the direction of Diego Garcia at 6.15am the morning after it 'disappeared' from radar
* The time of departure from Kuala Lumpur to the time of the plane's sighting is accurate
* The National Maldives Defence Force dismissed these eye witness accounts on the premise of no radar detection
* It is public knowledge that flight MH370 was not detectable, or had lost signal to radar
* Almost every member of the public had no idea there was an island in the Indian Ocean housing a US Military base and Airport before the above post was shared
* Diego Garcia has been completely dismissed from the International search, and completely dismissed from public investigative speculation

Sparky

6th April 2014, 22:05

Phil Wood and girlfriend are "crisis actors" used at the Boston Marathon Bombing. See bottom.

It should be obvious to anyone recognizing patterns --- the "mathematical cone-heads", (slang identification compliments of Karen Hudes) and their gubbermint puppets have hundreds or more devious dis-information variable plots to employ AFTER they commit their original sinister acts.

"They" know the public has a "microwave mind" and won't read/watch information beyond several minutes; always seeking excitement, entertainment and the next hot LATEST tidbit. "They" also know the public doesn't have the patience or will take the time to drill down on one topic and will continue to be spoon fed with their MSM majik.

PAUSE A MOMENT - Check in with your body and mind. How do you think/feel this very moment? Does this post appear too complicated to read - lacks the entertainment factor? Get honest - we're seeking amusement.

Of course, the latest drivel of lies and disinformation will not stop flowing. Someone already called it "fatigue factor".

Stick to the facts we know. Think twice before you or your loved ones fly on commercial flights. The pilots are not in control of their aircraft since new technology commenced installation 1995/96 AND THEY WERE NOT INFORMED

1. At some time prior to December 2006, it was no longer safe to fly any airplane with auto pilot in any nation due to covert equipment on airplanes. THE AIRLINES, NATIONS, PASSENGERS AND even the pilots are still not aware this technology has and will cause them to loose command if triggered by ground or AWACS. Post 186 provides foundation - watch/read all links..

2. Rogue elements in the US and UK withheld knowledge of installed BUAP +ATI from all nations and all airlines and pilots. PASSENGERS UNIMPORTANT, stupid sheep to be frisked, radiated, inconvenienced and collateral damage.

3. Expand your screen as you listen/watch this interview with Field McConnell. It's a fast moving interview with text to read on your screen CONNECTING MANY DOTS while 3 way interview taking place. BUAP engaged as early as 1995. Aircraft on 9/11/01 were droned. I'll put some links below; Senior Executive Service controls government honchos, death certificates, 1.2 -1.4 million plus hush money, only 2 women refused Wendy Burlingame and Beverly Eckert; both murdered. Now you know why families go quiet; bribery money or murder when you refuse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT5A7IakNuE

4. The conclusion of the above interview. Only 4 minutes. If the MSM were discussing this in the open - EVERYONE WOULD STOP FLYING THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, perhaps this could be the beginning of the end for the cabal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBIwQzPkkpo

Links for #3 above
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Executive_Service_%28United_States%29
http://www.abeldanger.net/2012/02/senior-executive-service-ses-proxy-keys.html

http://911blogger.com/news/2006-12-06/daughter-911-flight-pilot-found-dead-after-fire
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=16237
http://9-11themotherofallblackoperations.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-rothschildrockefellermorgan-drug.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Eckert

"This International, Criminal
Fraud that is Daily Being
Perpetrated Against Everybody..."

ForbiddenKnowledgeTV
Alexandra Bruce
April 6, 2014

Make of this video what you will.

I maintain that much about what you've heard in the mainstream media about Malaysia Flight 370 is a lie and much about it online is false, as well.
Read more:
http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/fraud/philip-wood-caught-as-a-ciaprop-crisis-actor-in-this-photo-more-breaking-news.html

Sooz

7th April 2014, 10:32

Here is David Wilcock's take on things:

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1159-flight-370?showall=1&limitstart=

norman

7th April 2014, 23:04

Here is David Wilcock's take on things:

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1159-flight-370?showall=1&limitstart=

errrrm.......

Wouldn't it good if the cabal really couldn't organize a p'ssup in a brewery these days. Drat another failed plan !

Hmmm, maybe. Let's suppose Wilko is right for a tick.

Malaysia seems to be IN on the mystery, whoever's theory is right. That makes it likely to be connected to America and the City of London bunch. I don't think Malaysia and China get on very well.

If it's a big stunt gone wrong, they very well might find a throw-away plane and people in the southern ocean.

modwiz

8th April 2014, 00:17

The cabal are peeing their pants and their decision making shows signs of adrenalized panic influence. Fear is the mind killer and their minds are on the critical list, IMO.

Look at how their theft of the Ukraine has gone. Woke up the bear and a lot of general sleepers. They are doing more for the awakening cause than Wilcock, Jaguar woman or Mr. Hat. I will not be sending them a thank you card, however.:rolleyes:

norman

8th April 2014, 00:39

I just listened to Mike Harris running a blood curdling idea past an audience.

Basically, how much are 260 sets of human organs worth on the transplant market.

modwiz

8th April 2014, 00:51

I just listened to Mike Harris running a blood curdling idea past an audience.

Basically, how much are 260 sets of human organs worth on the transplant market.

It is sad how coherent that idea is. Organ harvesting is an activity very much in evidence wherever opportunity presents itself.
Good post.

Sooz

8th April 2014, 07:44

Hi All,

Norman do you have any links to listen or to read Mike Harris?

Today I was listening to the interview with Kerry Cassidy, interesting, I have yet to finish listening to it tomorrow.

norman

8th April 2014, 10:37

Hi All,

Norman do you have any links to listen or to read Mike Harris?

Today I was listening to the interview with Kerry Cassidy, interesting, I have yet to finish listening to it tomorrow.

http://www.projectcamelotportal.com/files/04042014WhistleblowerRadio-TonyZAnthonySanchezMikeHarris.mp3

http://www.projectcamelotportal.com/files/04042014WhistleblowerRadio-TonyZAnthonySanchezMikeHarris.mp3

The Mike Harris section is the second hour.

Sooz

9th April 2014, 01:18

Look what I just found, this is incredible. Diego Garcia has an underwater city?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04VWR2zyRXw#t=17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04VWR2zyRXw#t=17

norman

9th April 2014, 01:44

Look what I just found, this is incredible. Diego Garcia has an underwater city?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04VWR2zyRXw#t=17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04VWR2zyRXw#t=17

Naah, Sooze, I used to see stuff like that when I was smashed. A perfectly straight and sober look at those image compression artifacts would show them for what they really are.

I wouldn't mind some of what he's smoking, right now.

Sooz

9th April 2014, 01:57

Well, I'm perfectly straight and I can see what he's seeing, lol...

Altaira

11th April 2014, 08:05

Spiral

11th April 2014, 08:28

This is interesting information. I can't comment on it yet as I havent watched it but seems worth listening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuWyLgIv1kg

Published on 9 Apr 2014
READ ARTICLE WITH DOCUMENTS & PHOTOS
Part 1 - Leuren Moret: Confirmed -- MH370 shot down by US over Singapore airspace as UK Inmarsat leads 30 day false flag psyops for 5 NWO objectives [READ FULL ARTICLE]
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/peaceins..

This has been already posted elsewhere & I wouldn't waste your time on these two dis-info shills, they are the conspiracy equivalent of a historical novel, its set in the real world but the story is made up.

Altaira

11th April 2014, 08:35

Thanks Spiral I had some similar feeling about it from Alfreds previous videos. Something was telling me that he is exploiting any hot topic for his own gains. I just needed confirmation.

Spiral

11th April 2014, 08:38

This is an interview with an experienced airline pilot who says what the MSM is telling us just isn't right, towards the end of the second half he shows a "Emergency Locator Transmitter" two of these are on that plane, & are release from the aircraft in the event of a crash, (over 5g ) sometimes they are set off accidentally by a hard landing they are so sensitive....needless to say there has been no mention of them in the MSM :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no9BuktHtKY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIhW4ICJcPI

Sooz

12th April 2014, 10:37

This is possibly my last post on this sad story.

As we all know and as I predicted, they will never find the black box, the batteries will be nearly exhausted by now, that is if it ever crashed into the sea.

We've been fed BS after BS on this. In Oz every day, we are told, 'yes here is a ping but we can't find it'. All BS.

Let's hope the truth comes out one day. Very sad for those who have lost loved ones and have no closure whatsoever. Giant cover-up is my guess.

Perhaps they are alive somewhere? Given mind altering drugs and are living with no memory of what happened. That is the good scenario. Probably they are all dead, I'm sad to say and not from the msm story of what we've been told.

Prayers or meditation, whatever, for their souls.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/no-new-signals-as-time-on-mh370s-black-boxes-is-running-out-20140412-36jxj.html

Spiral

12th April 2014, 11:17

Anyone heard any updates about the pilots wife & kids that left home the day before the plane took off ?

The MSM couldn't drop that one fast enough.

Sooz

12th April 2014, 11:26

Anyone heard any updates about the pilots wife & kids that left home the day before the plane took off ?

The MSM couldn't drop that one fast enough.

Good question! Not a bean on that story anywhere.

It's a very strange story. I am sure in time the truth will out.

Tribe

12th April 2014, 19:08

:belief: update today sat April 12th .

Russian intelligence sources have claimed that all passengers and crew members aboard the missing Malaysian Flight MH370 are alive and the plane was, in fact, hijacked and flown to Afghanistan.
A source in Russian's FSB secret service has reportedly said that the plane was hijacked and flown close to the Afghan-Pakistan border and all people aboard the plane are currently being held hostage.

"Flight MH370 malaysia Airlines missing on 8 March with 239 passengers was hijacked. Pilots are not guilty; the plane was hijacked by unknown terrorists. We know that the name of the terrorist who gave instructions to pilots is "Hitch." The plane is in Afghanistan not far from Kandahar near the border withPakistan," the source was quoted as saying.
The Russian newspaper has said that the passengers have been divided into seven groups and are living in mud huts with almost no food, according to Daily Star.
The report said that 20 passengers who were Asian have been smuggled into a bunker in Pakistan. It is also claimed that the terrorists are possibly seeking to bargain with either America or China.
The news, however, has not been confirmed by authorities either in Malaysia orChina and must be taken with caution as there are no credible evidence to prove that this is what has happened. Also, the news cannot be independently verified due to the anonymity of the source to the Russian newspaper.
A massive search team, currently coordinated by Australia, is searching for the wreckage for more than a month and recent pings possibly emitted by the black box have been considered the best lead so far.
Angus Houston, the head of a joint agency has said that they were confident that the signals heard were from the missing plane.
"I'm now optimistic that we will find the aircraft, or what is left of the aircraft, in the not-too-distant future -but we haven't found it yet, because this is a very challenging business," Houston said on Thursday.

The intelligence source provided the data to a correspondent of a Russian newspaper, Moskovsky Komsomolets.

http://ufothetruthisoutthere.blogspot.pt/2014/04/all-passengers-of-missing-flight-mh370.html

Spiral

12th April 2014, 19:47

Sooz

13th April 2014, 08:20

Jeez, every time I log off, I find something interesting to post....sigh, lol...

Our resident brainiacs will find this interesting.

It's a bit wordy and could do with some editing, but there are some pearls in there. i.e., 'privacy is for paedos' - you can see where that is going don't you?
There are other gems in there, but you will have to read it. In fact I will have to read it again. Quite fascinating.

The 'black box mind' - psychoanalysis....

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/apr/12/mh360-black-box-mind-psychoanalysis

Spiral

14th April 2014, 08:49

Investigators reveal MH370 co-pilot tried to make a call from his mobile phone after the aircraft 'vanished' but 'was abruptly cut off' as U.S. deny reports the plane landed at their remote military base

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603075/Co-pilot-missing-flight-MH370-desperate-call-mobile-phone-AFTER-aircraft-lost-normal-communication-ground.html#ixzz2yqi6x9FR
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdmsYmj-nYI

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603075/Co-pilot-missing-flight-MH370-desperate-call-mobile-phone-AFTER-aircraft-lost-normal-communication-ground.html

norman

19th April 2014, 23:14

HOOT !

I've just received a message from a friend with tentacles deep inside 'cyber land'. ( think Anonymous, then think the real thing - not a bunch of recruited hackers working for the N.S.A. ).

It's very hard to communicate with my 'said' friend over the internet - obviously. We only have rare comms. This is the first for nearly a year, so I think there must be something to this, for said person to get in touch.

So, seems that there is a close link between the hijacking of flight 370 ( with at least 12 very clever IT/electronics boffins aboard ) and the almost ignored bit of recent news about the 'Heartbleed' encryption hack exposure.

People in the know have been using that exploit for quite a while, INCLUDING the NSA !

Apparently, news about the security hack exposure was hindered for a few weeks to distance it from the disappearance of flight 370.

The NSA was using it a lot in recent times. The making public of it and the subsequent responses of patching the exploitable weakness by most of the worlds IT managers has stopped the NSA's action in it's tracks.

As my friend put it: " Our friends overseas and in Yorkshire have been using it a lot over the past couple of months, and were a little dismayed to say the least that it was exposed. A goal for the home side I think, even if it closes one of the best 3G network hacks. "

Now: I don't quite know from this, and Q&A isn't an option here, if the release of the exploitable hole was a retaliation by smart I.T. boffins or if it was an automatic release to be carried out if one or some of them ever disappeared - as has now happened !

I just get it hard in the face that I wouldn't have been contacted about this if it wasn't, 1) true, 2) a big deal.

I've got my own very sound and tested reasons why I trust this source, but don't ask me to explain why or how or anything, please.

KosmicKat

19th April 2014, 23:50

I'm not entirely convinced, since as I understand it Heartbleed does not affect all Secure Sockets Layer software, but only Open Source SSL.

norman

20th April 2014, 00:16

I'm not entirely convinced, since as I understand it Heartbleed does not affect all Secure Sockets Layer software, but only Open Source SSL.

I don't know about that stuff, at least not to the extent that I could reply with understanding.

I just know where this came from and how likely it is that there's something serious about it.

Spiral

20th April 2014, 08:41

So how does this relate to MH370 ?

Is this a suggestion that someone other than a US black ops unit took control of that plane ?

Sooz

20th April 2014, 11:19

Spiral

20th April 2014, 11:30

I remember this factoid from the beginning of the saga. 5 people who checked in but didn't board the flight.

Wonder if they had last minute warning not to board. And who were they in the scheme of things?

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304020104579430813560058226

Edit: Sorry, the link doesn't show up. You can view the full story if you copy the link above and enter into Google. (I very rarely use Google, preferring start page, but if you paste it in google you can read the article).

The link works for me, it must be your haunted PC again http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m508/VaguelyReticent/Emoticons/Colere_8_zps3b9da071.gif?t=1397916821

You have to log into the WSJ to read it though......................

Sooz

20th April 2014, 11:34

That would be bloody right, lol....

Edit: I NEED that icon!

Spiral

20th April 2014, 13:30

That would be bloody right, lol....

Edit: I NEED that icon!

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m508/VaguelyReticent/Emoticons/Sooz_zps87e17e31.png

norman

20th April 2014, 13:56

So how does this relate to MH370 ?

Is this a suggestion that someone other than a US black ops unit took control of that plane ?

No, I don't think it does. It would make it more likely than ever that is was a US black op, but that it was part of something that didn't really take some of the people on board by complete surprise.

Sparky

22nd April 2014, 08:13

Malaysia reports pertaining to missing MH370 are the only ones I would trust at this time. The Captain, was about to hand over to Vietnam air space when he lost command. I wouldn't believe a damn thing coming out of Oz, US, UK and Canada.

Click this link for more and pictures
http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-color-red-mh192-font-bangalore-bound-flight-made-an-air-turn-back-1.574295

21 April 2014| last updated at 01:49AM
MH192: Bangalore bound flight made an air turn-back
By NST TEAM | news@nst.com.my

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia Airlines flight MH192 bound for Bangalore tonight had to perform an air turn-back shortly after taking off.
MAS, in its official Twitter account, stated: “Flight MH192 that departed from KUL at 10.09pm bound for Bangalore has made an air turn-back towards KUL. More details to follow.”

Although MAS did not state the reason for the turn back, Twitter accounts were alive with claims that a tyre on the nosewheel of the Boeing 737-800 had burst.

This, however, could not be corroborated as attempts to contact officials proved fruitless.

It is understood MAS and Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd were making preparations for an emergency landing at press time, while the aircraft was in a holding pattern over the Straits of Malacca.

A Department of Civil Aviation spokesman said the aircraft would be allowed to land only when it is nearly out of fuel.

He said foam will be spread on the runway to ensure no burning occurs when the plane touches the ground.

He said the plane will land on its belly, without the use of its landing gear.

“There is always a risk when something like this happens but as of now we will have to wait and see. Further information will only be known once it lands in KLIA,” he said.

At 1.40am, Malaysia Airlines in a statement confirms that flight MH192 that departed from Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) at 10.09pm bound for Bangalore has made an air turn back towards Kuala Lumpur.

The aircraft’s right-hand landing gear malfunctioned upon takeoff and is expected to make an emergency landing at KLIA at around 2.00am, today.

Flight MH192, operated on the B737-800 aircraft, was scheduled to arrive in Bangalore at 11.35pm the same day.

The flight was carrying a total number of 166 people on board which include 159 passengers and 07 crew members.

Malaysia Airlines is currently working with the Airport Fire Rescue Services (AFRS) in anticipation of the landing.

The airline will provide regular updates on the situation.

Sooz

23rd April 2014, 08:17

Didn't think I would be commenting on this thread again, but here is something to think about:

Mainstream media is now saying the plane has landed somewhere...uh duh...

The Australian government has spent millions of dollars on this salvage operation, with nothing but 'ping-pongs', false leads, the PM Tony Abbott saying he has 'crucial information', nearly there to finding it, etc....all BS. They think we are all stoopid!

The USA to date, have not released any satellite data, which would be from Pine Gap, in central Australia, which is owned and operated by the CIA/USA. Why would that be I wonder?

And of course, as of writing we are up to the 46th day of the plane missing. Apparently after 45 days, families of the missing can launch lawsuits against MAS/Boeing etc. So it seems 'coincidental' that now it's been 'leaked' to MSM, that the plane has not crashed but landed somewhere. FFS! This has all been a wild goose chase intent on confusion. I so sympathise with the families who have lost loved ones. No mainstream media are interviewing them, why not? Mmmm.....more questions than answers.

More interesting snippets in here by DAHBOO7 in this video - use your own discernment of course.

With the Grand Cardinal Cross, I can't help wonder if things are coming to a head between USA/China/Russia...Fulford's missives are interesting also, in attempting to connect dots.

What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQtfEoQ-1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQtfEoQ-1A

norman

23rd April 2014, 15:48

What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQtfEoQ-1A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrQtfEoQ-1A

I think he's right about exposing China's capabilities. I think he's right that if the plane ever turns up again it'll be something very bad.

How much of this story has been made up as they went along, I don't know. It's conceivable that the emphasis on naval assets has been invented later on as a military intel opportunity. It's valuable intel when an 'enemy' is being stretched to use it's assets fully.

I remember the time an ICBM popped up out of the water just off the California coast and headed off over the north Pacific just as Obama ( with a huge naval and air force entourage ) was over in the China area on a big PR visit. At the time there was a lot of speculation about what that was all about. My own theory is that it was either Russia of China using an old out of use-by-date missile to force the US military to use it's best assets to communicate with a President and other top brass half way around the world. It would have been interesting ( from their point of view ) to detect just how the US actually does do such communicating. Their spy tech' under the ocean and in space would monitor everything and their moles in the system would report back anything interesting too.

As for the missing plane, and it being down in the south Indian ocean, I wouldn't believe anything they tell us since the world's navies have turned up on the scene. They can stage manage anything they like. There won't be much citizen journalism from an area as remote as that.

ronin

23rd April 2014, 16:25

not just individual are waking up to the truth.
but the truthseekers of the oppressed countries.
they have been trying to say it as it is but often get dismissed,ignored or the mainstream media take control.
slowly,slowly catchy monkey.
the people are waking up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmpL2il3cdE#t=1247

The One

23rd April 2014, 16:45

Wtf is going on with this situation. Do they think we are all thick as thieves

Calz

23rd April 2014, 17:09

Wtf is going on with this situation. Do they think we are all thick as thieves

No ... but they think the vast majority are (at least with things like this) and they are quite correct.

Stunning majority follows MSM and thus the spoon fed nonsense that the creeps_that_be feed the minions.

BabaRa

23rd April 2014, 18:36

No ... but they think the vast majority are (at least with things like this) and they are quite correct.

Stunning majority follows MSM and thus the spoon fed nonsense that the creeps_that_be feed the minions.

What you say is true - HOWEVER, and this is a big however, the good alternative press journalists, as well as the simple people like the Malaysian in the video above and all the others we have posted here, - - - are now keeping up with the cabal and in some instances are even ahead of them.

Remember, the A-bomb that was transferred without paperwork from Texas on it's way to Charleston Harbor, S. Carolina. I believe that the Alter Press via some brave whistle blowers averted that catastrophe.

And who knows how many more.

Remember in this case, it came out almost immediately that Israel had bought an identical plane to the one that is missing - and Israel did not have that plane in use. I suspect that a false flag was planned that had to be averted because that knowledge was released.

Most of us on this Forum are aware that the CIA, MI5 and Mossad, either separately or jointly have been responsible for all the past false flags and many of the 'natural' catastrophes. Why would this situation be any different.

Perhaps this will be the global incident that will be the mirror of what is happening in Nevada USA at the Bundy Ranch.

The Ukraine incident stirred up The Bear. This one seems to be stirring up The Dragon. Cabal may have overplayed their hand in more places than they can handle.

Sparky

25th April 2014, 05:32

THE CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG! DID YOU WATCH THE VIDEO RONIN POSTED?

MH370 Make It The Last False Flag - Matthias Chang (Full interview)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDHULzPKgnU

“The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic, and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
[Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945]

"All Truths are easy to understand once they are discovered"
Galileo Galilei

I love Matthias Chang for taking the time to give this interview, especially his comments in the beginning. I'm glad he mentions the "how" - Boeing Uninterpretable Auto Pilot + Automatic Tranquilizer Injection because this information widespread, understood by the public, will halt all air traffic as no one in their right mind would fly. Even the pilots don't know BUAP +ATI has been illegally installed on the equipment they fly. I've been told only two airlines now know about it and are safe to fly since this happened: Malaysia and Delta. The "who" is the same RAT SCUM Contractor and their hit squads that did 9/11, other airline disasters and so are many others aware of the "who" RAT SCUM Contractor. The brains behind the bully boy US is Mother England.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commerci al_aircraft

In case you hadn't figured out 9/11, no commercial airplanes flew into the Towers or Pentagon. What you saw on Tel-lie-vision was CGI and drones. If you watched Mr. President Bush reading The Pet Goat in the classroom, you would know he was cut out of the loop that morning. I do not imply that makes him innocent.

Have a laugh with Jon Stewart concerning the ridiculous media coverage that should have tipped you off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I4e4ui6oJQ

“We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world–no longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a government of conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.”
Woodrow Wilson, President of the United States
(The man that gave our country to the Federal Reserve Gangster Banksters)
http://www.federalreservehistory.org/Events/DetailView/10

OBAMA GOING TO MALAYSIA
Obama’s trip will be the first by a sitting US president to Malaysia in 48 years since Lyndon B. Johnson came way back in 1966.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/04/23/KL-set-to-be-in-security-lockdown-The-US-Secret-Service-has-been-in-the-country-the-past-month-secur/ Read complete article at this link with pictures.

The president is currently in the Japanese capital and heads to Seoul before flying here.
The US Secret Service has been in the country over the past month, “securing” the president’s routes, hotel and places he will step foot in.
US military cargo planes have begun delivering logistical supplies for Obama’s visit, including supp�ort vehicles and trucks loaded with sheets of bullet-proof glass, to cover windows of the hotel Obama will stay in.
Obama’s trip will be the first by a sitting US president to Malaysia in 48 years since Lyndon B. Johnson came way back in 1966.

Sparky

25th April 2014, 14:25

Military radar DID track an unidentified aircraft at the time MH370 disappeared, Malaysian PM reveals six weeks after the search began
By Dan Bloom and Richard Shears
Published: 15:25 EST, 24 April 2014 | Updated: 02:29 EST, 25 April 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2612487/Report-missing-jet-MH370-released-week-Malaysian-PM-makes-surprise-announcement-relatives-cling-hope-not-destroyed.html

Serco's Micah 2 Trident Deception Exposed By AD
Operation SCREECHING HALT Regards Droned Airliners/USAF Jets

http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/04/mcconnell-punahou-67-defeats-obama.html

My heart holds no bounds for the greatest respect and admiration for the strength of mind and character with grit and humor for Field McConnell and David Hawkins coupled with their endless devotion of more than 7 years of fortitude and resolve.

I�m confident those of you in the UK share the same gratitude as those of us in the US for these two remarkable gentlemen, Field and David's fidelity and commitment to humanity and country.

If you are new to their websites, their communication nomenclature may take some time to get up to speed.

Field and David broadcast M-W-F @ 2 PM, EST supported by their member�s that are active in a chat room.

Here is the link for their Archived Chat Room: http://new.livestream.com/accounts/1990801

If you click prior to start, it should provide an �active red box� to click to watch.

Keep in mind, their electronic communications are frequently sabotaged due to the nature of information revealed.

Sparky

25th April 2014, 16:06

If you plan on listening today, this will provide some background. You will note Able Danger’s monumental work would be difficult without the efforts and dedication of multiple generations of team work linking events.

Craig did a marvelous job substituting for Field while he was in meetings overseas with Malaysia and others. David explains “flash override” and “red switch network” and how it was used to exclude President Bush from the loop on 9/11. David also explains the names they associate to “MI3” with much skill and humor as well as other nomenclature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVsHcYSJVsY

Published on Apr 16, 2014
#1923: Marine Links Serco MH Autopilot Hack to MI-3 Fairmont Harper, Red Switch Heartbleed Bug

http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/04/192...

Plum City -- (AbelDanger.net). United States Marine Field McConnell has linked Serco director Maureen Baginski's alleged hack of the Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot on MH Flight 370 to a Laureen Harper honeypot set by the MI-3 Innholders Livery Company with a Red Switch Network Heartbleed bug at the Fairmont Chateau Laurier Hotel in Ottawa.

McConnell believes that Serco -- formerly RCA GB 1928 -- ran honeypots from the Fairmont Hamilton Princess hotel in Bermuda for traveling spouses of WWII leaders and had former U.K. Minister of Defence Nicholas Soames hire Baginski to hack Flight 370's autopilot with a Harper Heartbleed bug for an alleged Serco hotel red-switch proxy attack on KL's Petronas Towers.

McConnell believes erstwhile colleagues at the Marine Corps Intelligence Activity Command in Quantico thwarted the Petronas Towers attack by using a Heartbleed bug to re-override Serco's Fairmont red-switch network and fly MH 370 to a Cat III C landing on Diego Garcia (BIOT).

Sparky

25th April 2014, 17:05

Here is the link for Able Danger's Broadcast today with Field McConnell and David Hawkins that start in 55 minutes.

http://new.livestream.com/abeldanger/events/2949270

Topic:

Obama SUCKS Hind Tit in Malaysia

One week after Field McConnell visited the Singapore-Vietnam-Phuket TRIANGLE Obama meekly attempts DAMAGE CONTROL after United States Marine Field McConnell has linked Serco director Maureen Baginski’s selection of flight paths for the MH 370 hijack of March 8, 2014, to Serco’s use of the Defense Red Switch Network for the global deployment of Cross Key rendition and torture assets across the U.S. Justice Prisoner and Alien Transportation System (ConAir), and Serco's fraudulent integration of Air Force One and Sheraton Hotel chain of command authorities. McConnell notes that after his recent trip to a MH theater of interest where he briefed 20+ senior people on phony flight-path selections by Serco (the world’s largest air traffic controller), the Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak has announced he is not prepared to declare the MH 370 passengers dead! Key word? OBAMA SUCKS

Sparky

25th April 2014, 17:25

Around 30 minutes to broadcast.

Sparky

25th April 2014, 17:49

Abel Danger Broadcast starts in 10 minutes

Have no doubts the many in the world are aware of the phony occupants in the White House.

'Japanese MP who was angry that Michelle didn't join president on Tokyo trip makes extraordinary claim that Obama CHEATS and their looming divorce is 'an open secret'

By David Martosko, U.s. Political Editor

Published: 17:21 EST, 23 April 2014 | Updated: 17:18 EST, 24 April 2014

(Over 8,000 comments since published. Read more)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2611563/The-Obamas-failed-marriage-looming-divorce-open-secret-claims-member-Japans-parliament-president-using-Secret-Service-hide-affairs.html

Sparky

26th April 2014, 20:16

Love these Brits. They're spot on, funny dead pan humor, sharp as a tack and everything accurate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjw15u9XBX8

Sparky

27th April 2014, 00:23

What's up with you folks? Don't 'cha care anymore? You've been snookered, and distracted by the barrage of chit the media produced. Their plan is working and you all fell for it.

Ronin posted: 49:39 Video with title Matthias Chang speaks about MH 370 flight

I posted: 110:19 Video with the title MH370 Make It The Last False Flag - Matthias Chang (Full interview)

MSM wins again. No one other than myself noticed Matthias Chang's words were intentionally edited.

Isn't anyone suspicious why Ronin's video edited deleting 20+ minutes ? Does anyone care to learn why Obama's ass was hauled to Malaysia? He's there now as I write. Malaysia has the documents and evidence to nail his ass. Didn't anyone associate the last radio contact from the Captain of MH370 was "goodnight".

If you've been sleeping with someone a long time, isn't that the same thing you say just before you realize your drifting off to sleep? Remember when BUAP is activated, ATI immediately follows rendering everyone aboard cabin and cockpit tranquilized and fall asleep. He was about to hand over to Vietnam air space and he sure as hell would not say goodnight to anyone as VAC would be acknowledging with instructions.

Sooz: Not the Chinese. Appears MCIAC Quantico, VA jumped in preventing SERCO from crashing MH370 in the PETRONAS Towers.
http://jandeane81.com/threads/2256-Plane-gone-missing-from-Kuala-Lumpur-to-Beijing?p=17320&viewfull=1#post17320

First time patent is mentioned by Spiral 05-04-2014, 08:43 AM
Thank you for thinking, Spiral
http://jandeane81.com/threads/2256-Plane-gone-missing-from-Kuala-Lumpur-to-Beijing?p=18653&viewfull=1#post18653

So I decided it was time to write what I know 05-04-2014, 08:59 AM
http://jandeane81.com/threads/2256-Plane-gone-missing-from-Kuala-Lumpur-to-Beijing?p=18654&viewfull=1#post18654

Spiral is very sharp and busy writing another post 05-04-2014, 11:10 AM. That probably caused him to miss what I wrote and click all the links. The thread migrated toward the Phil Woods girlfriend. I then brought it back explaining they were crisis actors used at Boston Marathon. No comments made how the public was again tricked. MSM wins hands down again by flooding the internet with unreliable, unproven, disinformation sources that were not vetted. We all fall for this trick at times.
http://jandeane81.com/threads/2256-Plane-gone-missing-from-Kuala-Lumpur-to-Beijing?p=18781&viewfull=1#post18781

If you know anything about farming and been around when a Heifer becomes a Cow after her first calf, I couldn't express myself better than Field McConnell, so I'll just copy and paste his words:

Obama SUCKS Hind Tit in Malaysia Key word? OBAMA SUCKS

Sparky

27th April 2014, 07:46

Oh my, my my. What have we here? No white teeth showing now he’s in Malaysia! Check out the expression.
http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2014/04/26/malaysia-obama-asiajpeg-0283b_s640x470.jpg?4247f066e6db7c1a4de2c01c1336a39 9d58c7020

Is this advance planning or just another one of the filthy schuss bucket slime in his administration?
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/new-obama-pardon-chief-tied-to-ex-domestic-terrorist-dohrn/85957

Do you know how hotel honeypots get set up and by who? Do you know the purpose they serve?
“Sheraton hotel general manager arrested on child porn charges
Posted on November 15, 2010 by candlewoodste
By Barbara De Lollis, USA TODAY
Massachusetts police last week arrested a veteran hotel manager inside his current hotel – a Sheraton in suburban Boston – on child pornography charges.
Police arrested Robert Diduca, 46, at the Sheraton hotel in Framingham, Mass., after acting on a tip from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Diduca has been the Sheraton’s general manager for the last eight years, according to a story by local ABC affiliate WHDH-TV.A local chamber of commerce lists him as a board member. A company website says he has 24 years of experience at a range of hotels including Marriott, Hilton, Doubletree and Sheraton
Early searches of his computer storage devices revealed some 10,000 images of young children, according to ICE. Diduca is also alleged to have videos of young children engaged in sexual acts.

Notice how the word “alleged” was slipped into the article? He couldn’t have done anything serious??? Someone working to spring him?
After arrest, only had to post a $5,000 bond! GET IT! The tentacles are far reaching to protect the testicles of this peoadifile. END

The following is a “copy and paste” from here:
http://uddari.wordpress.com/category/child-abuse/

“They are the worst of the worst,” said Bruce Foucart, agent in charge of the U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement agency’s Homeland Security Investigations unit in Boston. “This isn’t just a child that’s nude and someone’s taking pictures of him; this is a child that’s being raped by an adult, which is horrific.”
The case began to unfold when Robert Diduca, a Sheraton hotel manager from Milford, Mass., sent the photo of the Dutch boy to an undercover federal agent in Boston. Diduca, a married father of three who used the screen name “Babytodd,” thought he was sending the picture to another man with a sexual interest in babies and toddlers.
Agents forwarded the photo to Interpol, the international police organization, and to several other countries.
An investigator for the Dutch police recognized the stuffed bunny as Miffy, a familiar character in a series of Dutch children’s books. She also traced the boy’s orange sweater to a small Amsterdam store that had sold only 20 others like it.
The boy’s photo was broadcast on a national TV program similar to “America’s Most Wanted.” Within minutes, friends and relatives called the child’s mother. END

Only 1 down for 18 years of the thousands of pedophiles throughout the world engaged in hotel honeypots. It’s impossible to fathom the thousands more engaged in procurement.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/ma/news/2012/June/DiducaRobertSentencing.html

IT'S A CRIME TO 'DO NOTHING'. They ignore the carriers and arrest/harass/attempt to kill whistleblowers; sometimes succeed.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/04/faa-fails-follow-safety-violations-even-carriers-self-report/

If you don’t think the fire under Obumer & Holder’s asses has been lit http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/eric-holder-cancels-police-academy-speech-after-protesters-demand-new-officers-arrest-him/86018

Notice the pattern how they are covering their ass
http://isearch.avg.com/search?cid={5C88CBC1-4CCE-468B-8F74-1AAA9FECC440}&mid=049dfbb9434447d1bbe1d153e6b5c316-ff4f6f97097061d668b6376c1d8bc3d29db2dff1&lang=en&ds=AVG&coid=avgtbavg&pr=fr&d=2013-10-29%2019:55:59&v=17.0.0.12&pid=avg&sg=0&sap=dsp&q=Obama%E2%80%99s+NSA+refuses+FOIA+request+on+Mala ysia+flight+370+on+grounds+of+classified%C2%A0info

Where is his teleprompter and teeth? Neither showing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLrhmMZq1rU&feature=youtu.be

Can you connect the dots with the material I placed in bold or do you need to be spoon fed?