a thread just for 432hz music

[norman]

So tell me/us , where does the theory come from?

[Seikou-Kishi]

Modwiz would be much better at explaining it than I could ever be, but I think it comes down to the relationship between different notes. All notes of the same kind will sound the same despite a difference in octave because they are all related to each other. One note in one octave is half the frequency of the same note in the next higher octave and twice the frequency of the same note in the preceding octave.

The difference between A432 and A440 is that when A is tuned to 432 hertz, the other notes are all whole numbers as well. In A400, the other notes don't have integral frequencies.

The difference between A400 and A432 is .32 of a semitone, or 98.18...%

At first, I couldn't tell the difference, but I've found I prefer A432. I'll include below two songs. The first will be the original, A440 version, and the second will be the A432 version. I've uploaded only the first 20 seconds of both versions because I don't want to embroil TOT in any copyright claims. Since we're using this for educational purposes, the sampling is allowable within the jurisdictions in which this website is hosted (New Jersey)

Black Eyed Peas — Where is the Love @ A440
http://kiwi6.com/file/behvm8lyer

Black Eyes Peas — Where is the Love @ A432
http://k007.kiwi6.com/download/ihk7k1du3l


Edit: They don't seem to want to play

[Sooz]

What a shame, I was looking forward to hearing the difference.

Bummer!

[Seikou-Kishi]

What a shame, I was looking forward to hearing the difference.

Bummer!

I'd love to get them to you if I could. The difference is quite noticeable. The good thing about the samples both being 20 seconds long is it's easy to compare the two. The A432 version sounds ever so slightly lower pitch than the A440 version (as you'd expect) but it also sounds cleaner and smoother (I expect this is a result of the frequencies being in a whole number of hertz)

[The One]

I have got the second link working

on the first link downloading as been disabled by the owner

Cheers

[Seikou-Kishi]

I have got the second link working

on the first link downloading as been disabled by the owner

Cheers

Oh really? I must have changed some setting or other when I uploaded them. Thanks for letting me know

[ronin]

a explanation between 440 hz and 432 hz.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjoxGAbDA1A

now see if you can tell the difference with this little test.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVoVr9UwOQM

a little bit of history of 432


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY74AFQl2qQ

[Fred Steeves]

I never knew about the 432 vs. 440 thing, very interesting. A question here: How does this relate to the Schuman Resonance of 7.83 hz?

On a side note, or maybe not so side... 7.83 hz being Earth's "pulse rate", we also have the following:

6.6 hz (The Russian Woodpecker elf wave) - Causes depression

10.8 hz elf wave - Causes riotous behavior

Is this all basically the same thing, or am I confusing something?



Cheers

[modwiz]

I never knew about the 432 vs. 440 thing, very interesting. A question here: How does this relate to the Schuman Resonance of 7.83 hz?

On a side note, or maybe not so side... 7.83 hz being Earth's "pulse rate", we also have the following:

6.6 hz (The Russian Woodpecker elf wave) - Causes depression

10.8 hz elf wave - Causes riotous behavior

Is this all basically the same thing, or am I confusing something?



Cheers

In one of the many things I've read, they worked the Schuman resonance into the scheme by saying it was 8 hz. Perhaps this was a 'rounding of 7.83. I do not know. I offered it because, it was what I had.

[ronin]

another article explaining the difference between 440 and 432 and how it is used to mind control people.

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/08/440hz-music-conspiracy-to-detune-good-vibrations-from-natural-432hz.html

well the 440hz used all over the world now is suppose to be blamed on the german Joseph Goebbels .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ILuyaZIO4#t=56

[Highland1]

According to Chris Thomas the earths energy frequency has recently changed....?

http://jandeane81.com/threads/1617-Dec-14-2013-Chris-Thomas-Latest-Energy-Frequency-Update

If this is true, then perhaps we should reconsider what frequencies are actually in harmony with where we are at now?

Russ

[Fred Steeves]

According to Chris Thomas the earths energy frequency has recently changed....?

http://jandeane81.com/threads/1617-Dec-14-2013-Chris-Thomas-Latest-Energy-Frequency-Update

If this is true, then perhaps we should reconsider what frequencies are actually in harmony with where we are at now?

Russ

I think that's been proven eroneous Russ. Greg Braden came out with that too, and IIRC he quietly retracted it when challenged for evidence.

[ronin]

I think that's been proven eroneous Russ. Greg Braden came out with that too, and IIRC he quietly retracted it when challenged for evidence.

then again Gregg claims the power of thought and frequency can heal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZpRP1FV0lE

[ronin]

a good question would be why would someone like Joseph Goebbels want to change the natural frequency to one that can dumb people down!
why did the world accept it?
who would gain from it?
as we listen to 440hz are they sat back listening to 432hz that can heal and develop their dna?

[ronin]

sometimes we cannot help but hear from the ancients in their callings.
whether it be from Gaia and her ayahuasca call to the world.
or from the Lakota people and Indigenous people.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeVeapUvDHQ

this is a better and more visual one also in 432 hz.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNApcyzaY60

when something has suffered enough it will send out a call....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYjNdPCF3UA&list=PLA8E651F0E4E14AAB

[Fred Steeves]

Speaking of ancestors, I wonder what hz the "Ghost Dance" was based upon?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PQj-NHp83A

[jimmer]

how about a little floyd in 432hz?

I feel like I've enrolled in an alternative learning center.
I like it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgNZ7LMFijw

[modwiz]

Speaking of ancestors, I wonder what hz the "Ghost Dance" was based upon?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PQj-NHp83A

Not too much music to go on here , but the drums and singing seemed to be in in fundamental "B". This 'B' note is tuned in relation to 'A' 432.

Traditional tunings of flutes and Tibetan bowls all work with notes based on a scale where 'A' is 432, or 864, or 216, or 108, 54, 27. Even if flutes or bowls are a little off this mark, it would be lack of precision and not arbitrary tuning, IMO.

[norman]

I was hoping this thread would become of an educational resource with more information about why 432 is in some way harmonious with nature in a way that 440 is not.

I've never understood why.

I've always been more interested in the relationship between notes of an instrument than in a definitive concert pitch rule. I'm wide open and willing to learn and try to even work with anyone who can shine the light on all this for me.

I know I get a special feeling from modal tuning. It led me to spend a lot of time using DADGAD tuned modally for my guitar. First as a D tuning, then later I dropped it to C, but all the time sticking with the 440 standard.

Can we clearly discriminate between the feeling of a generally lower tuning and the feeling of 432 tuning specifically?

The music making thread here ran aground for me when the Ukraine thing got serious and also because it dawned on me that this 432 = A thing is a big issue to sort out before much else can happen.

[modwiz]

Norman, I had a short but informative video on 432 in the tent thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY74AFQl2qQ

There is really a lot of information on the web. It is where I got my information. I don't know how to make a good argument for it because its acceptance is not such a left brained kind of thing. I like the logic a lot, I like the sound even better.

[modwiz]

I just watched the video for the third time. It is well done, develops the point well without stretching it too thin. The connections that develop with geometry and other sacred systems show a rhyme and reason, an organic matrix that is only revealed within this overall grid. When music references its tuning based on this grid, it is in harmony with the structure of our physical world and bodies. When we reference 440 we take our music out of the organic matrix.

I hope that is helpful, if you haven't watched the excellent video above. I did not mean to ignore your OP but, with the video up in two places and my disdain for typing, you got forgotten.

Twas an oversight.:D

[Mars Planitia]

I was hoping this thread would become of an educational resource with more information about why 432 is in some way harmonious with nature in a way that 440 is not.

I've never understood why.

I've always been more interested in the relationship between notes of an instrument than in a definitive concert pitch rule. I'm wide open and willing to learn and try to even work with anyone who can shine the light on all this for me.

I know I get a special feeling from modal tuning. It led me to spend a lot of time using DADGAD tuned modally for my guitar. First as a D tuning, then later I dropped it to C, but all the time sticking with the 440 standard.

Can we clearly discriminate between the feeling of a generally lower tuning and the feeling of 432 tuning specifically?

The music making thread here ran aground for me when the Ukraine thing got serious and also because it dawned on me that this 432 = A thing is a big issue to sort out before much else can happen.


This may explain it a bit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU8AQazyqzU

[Mars Planitia]

And Check this out, you can actually feel the difference of sound just by changing the frequency.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ILuyaZIO4



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=393QISrq5dU

[Mars Planitia]

One of my favorites,,,,, Native flute played in 432Hz......Enjoy My Kolas (Friends in Native tongue)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veim1dKwR2U