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shamanseeker
20th February 2014, 14:02
”The War On Democracy’ (2007) was John Pilger’s first for cinema. It explores the current and past relationship of Washington with Latin American countries such as Venezuela, Bolivia and Chile.

Using archive footage sourced by Michael Moore’s archivist Carl Deal, the film shows how serial US intervention, overt and covert, has toppled a series of legitimate governments in the Latin American region since the 1950s. The democratically elected Chilean government of Salvador Allende, for example, was ousted by a US backed coup in 1973 and replaced by the military dictatorship of General Pinochet. Guatemala, Panama, Nicaragua, Honduras and El Salvador have all been invaded by the United States.’

David Icke


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeHzc1h8k7o#t=167

BabaRa
20th February 2014, 18:00
Here is more on many other countries in South America. John Perkins (author of Economic Hitman and other books)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLe9u9SffO0

Wolf Khan
21st February 2014, 04:24
Anything by Icke is cabal soft-sell. So when people wake that our governments are really trying to kill everyone, we wont need arseholes like icke telling things we already know. And found out about 5 years ago from other sources.

modwiz
21st February 2014, 04:56
Anything by Icke is cabal soft-sell. So when people wake that our governments are really trying to kill everyone, we wont need arseholes like icke telling things we already know. And found out about 5 years ago from other sources.

Icke is serving the arseholes, erm, I mean 'late' sleepers, who woke up this afternoon. He is a teacher many of us no longer need, or are served by. I cannot go to Icke's site. Too fear porn based. That marks it as entry level too. Drama to catch the interest of those so wrapped up in their own dramas that they need a 'shock jock" like David to catch their interest.

Once he gets them started they can come to TOT since they are no longer retotted.:hilarious:

Seikou-Kishi
21st February 2014, 05:09
He's not cabal. At least, not knowingly, which is a tricky thing. I also don't think he spins a fear porn thing. If people read him wrongly, it will come across as fear porn because he focuses on the dark, but he spreads a message of infinite consciousness and infinite love. Neither is fear, neither is cabal. He is at a low level of awareness, I agree, but his intentions are good. Good intentions, of course, being almost irrelevant.

Calz
21st February 2014, 05:09
IMHO we should respect Icke for what he did ***when*** he did it.

Shape shifting reptiles???

Seriously???

Guy had kahunas the size of ... reptiles.

He took what was "given" to him and ran with it despite what that meant to his personal life and career ...

modwiz
21st February 2014, 05:28
IMHO we should respect Icke for what he did ***when*** he did it.

Shape shifting reptiles???

Seriously???

Guy had kahunas the size of ... reptiles.

He took what was "given" to him and ran with it despite what that meant to his personal life and career ...

:frantic::spinning:Irony Alert!:spinning::frantic:

He is a Dragon, in Chinese astrology. A Water Dragon. (I am too)

He's got dragon grapes.:p

I do grok him.:ok:

norman
21st February 2014, 05:57
Democracy....... ! ...... ?.........

Don't make me LARrrrffF............

More like the latest twist in 'market research'.

When they ever ask us for input, it sure as hell ain't for the changing of anything - except in the sense of providing even more microscopically accurately crunchable ....errrrr. 'data'.....

In the UK, I don't know if this is international, the supermarkets and even ebay are running a "bonus" points thing called "NECTAR". It's supposed to be some kind of 'moneyback' cranck twist that everybody has to be into to be cool.

It all sounds far too much like "honey pot" for me. It's a personalised retail data mining game of some sort.

I imagine it's meant to be able to fine tune their attack against us just another gnat's whisker more tight fisted than they are already.

When "The Country Goes To The Poles", I just feel it's all the bloody same thing again.

Anyway, the Greeks were a bunch of a snobs and elitists. Democracy is a modern day joke that's not even funny.

Seikou-Kishi
21st February 2014, 06:08
:frantic::spinning:Irony Alert!:spinning::frantic:

He is a Dragon, in Chinese astrology. A Water Dragon. (I am too)

He's got dragon grapes.:p

I do grok him.:ok:

You must be the same age, then? Unless one of you is sixty years younger than the other, which doesn't seem entirely feasible? Lol

modwiz
21st February 2014, 06:14
You must be the same age, then? Unless one of you is sixty years younger than the other, which doesn't seem entirely feasible? Lol

He is April, I think, 1952. I am '53 but, the Dragon ran until Feb. 10th? that year. He is 9 months older, if my April date is correct

shamanseeker
24th February 2014, 17:36
IMHO we should respect Icke for what he did ***when*** he did it.

Shape shifting reptiles???

Seriously???

Guy had kahunas the size of ... reptiles.

He took what was "given" to him and ran with it despite what that meant to his personal life and career ...

Shapeshifters exist and those who ridicule it cannot know if they do or not but if you've seen them, you know they exist.

shamanseeker
24th February 2014, 17:39
I also respect Pilger and there's nothing wrong with watching his films. If you don't want to, don't watch it. I respect others' choices of what they download and I think you should all respect my choices without the ridicule. OK say what you want - even that you don't believe for one second that there are shapeshifters out there - but in a polite way without the ridicule!

If this continues, please if there are any mods out there, could you close down this thread.

Cearna
28th February 2014, 05:45
i have not ever seen a Shapeshifter, but I am in no doubt that shamanseeker has, her experience is indelible in her mind, just as it would be in your if it had happened to you. I believe this because of my own experiences with the little people are to me a clear an undoubted truth, and the same would be with all those who know they have been abducted, or have seen a Ufo. Each of us in these cases, has an emotional response, especially since, these are are own experiences, but the thought of the ridicule received over time can be overwhelming as time goes on. I like to try to be able to accept other people's sometimes, not so nice comments, but you know after a lot of it, it gets to you, and as I see it, that's what we expect from this forum, but sometimes plain speaking hurts. What is not intended is often felt in a different way than you expect - its once again words, they are often taken to mean something quite differently than you intended, some of us are more sensitive than others, so I agree here, please just try respecting the original intent of a thread.

Sooz
28th February 2014, 06:31
This is the first time I've even seen this thread. I should get around more.

Don't close the thread!

Edit: In case I'm missing something, I don't think Calz was dismissing shapeshifting, but I will watch and read again from the start.

Edit 2: Nup, I really don't think Calz was ridiculing this thread at all, shamanseeker, in fact the opposite. That's my take on it. Calz can speak for himself.

KosmicKat
28th February 2014, 11:17
Shapeshifters exist and those who ridicule it cannot know if they do or not but if you've seen them, you know they exist.
We all change shape as time goes on. The only real difference between most of us and the shapeshifters is that they can do it at will.


When "The Country Goes To The Poles", I just feel it's all the bloody same thing again.

The cartoon was drawn for the American audience, but it applies just as much anywhere else:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_aQCJuBv3ww/UTvxH_20kqI/AAAAAAAABLw/dIOABBKbfY8/s320/march_of_tyranny.jpg

BabaRa
2nd March 2014, 19:01
IMO, call it what you will: I prefer Freedom, but let's not get stuck on labels. Sometimes we get so busy looking for the ants, we get stampeded by the elephants.

There is definitely a war going on for power and control . . . . and against individual rights/ freedoms and conscious evolution.

Icke did his job - whether his time has passed or not, who knows, but he woke many up. And I agree, he has said much about the power of love. Does he walk his talk, hmm - don't know, but then how many of us do - on a consistent basis. . . . Remember, every time you judge, you are putting negative energy into our collective stream of consciousness - and setting yourself up for negative energetic beings to attach to you.