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Calz
9th February 2014, 15:25
Posted this song and some suggested perhaps it belonged in a more viewed context.

So ...

Remarkable topic that goes back how many thousands of years???


Point of the thread is how and why we have succumbed to this for so very long and what we can do to overcome it???



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn91L9goKfQ#t=273

Calz
9th February 2014, 15:41
Well crap ... how far does it go back???

Does anyone really know???


Seriously???


Here is a clue for this country but it goes so very much beyond that ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXP4tRUuqUY

Calz
9th February 2014, 15:59
Loosh ... unaccounted for dead bodies for nefarious reasons ...

Got it.


What is so powerful that we cannot stop this???

Moonlight
9th February 2014, 16:03
There was never a good war or a bad peace... wars will never brings peace. Wrong focus.

Give Peace a chance

Calz
9th February 2014, 16:16
War is nothing other than elite making themselves ... more elite.

No secret.

No reason why the people of the earth cannot recognize what is obvious and stand up to it.


So???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGJqck5y91o

Moonlight
9th February 2014, 16:55
http://youtu.be/_6mKMV0d2cs
(psychedelic images are from my area :p)

"Peace Train"

Now I've been happy lately, thinking about the good things to come
And I believe it could be, something good has begun

Oh I've been smiling lately, dreaming about the world as one
And I believe it could be, some day it's going to come

Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train
Oh peace train take this country, come take me home again

Now I've been smiling lately, thinking about the good things to come
And I believe it could be, something good has begun

Oh peace train sounding louder
Glide on the peace train
Come on now peace train
Yes, peace train holy roller

Everyone jump upon the peace train
Come on now peace train

Get your bags together, go bring your good friends too
Cause it's getting nearer, it soon will be with you

Now come and join the living, it's not so far from you
And it's getting nearer, soon it will all be true

Now I've been crying lately, thinking about the world as it is
Why must we go on hating, why can't we live in bliss

Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train
Oh peace train take this country, come take me home again

Moonlight
9th February 2014, 16:58
http://youtu.be/jY_vcjOWSnU

Tribe
9th February 2014, 17:18
ok so we have so many wonderful people out there actively challenging the arms industry , if anyone feels strongly about war and would like to do something about it by adding their voice or getting involved this is a good place to start! http://www.stopthearmsfair.org.uk/

blessings to all that stand for what is right and just and may they always be protected . namaste xxx

BabaRa
9th February 2014, 21:49
ok so we have so many wonderful people out there actively challenging the arms industry , if anyone feels strongly about war and would like to do something about it by adding their voice or getting involved this is a good place to start! http://www.stopthearmsfair.org.uk/

blessings to all that stand for what is right and just and may they always be protected . namaste xxx

Thanks Tribe. - and Calz for the thread.

Yes, we need to do more than talk about it. I think most on this Forum realize that war is the elite's old "Divide and Conquer Game".

And there are other things we can do beside join or support pro-peace organizations.

At the personal level: Make peace with a neighbor, a friend, a co-worker, a relative. Create peace in your own household, many of which have just become an extension of the 'jungle out there'.

Confuscius once said something like (paraphrasing here). We can't expect a tree to be healthy and flourishing at the top, if the roots are decaying and diseased.

Also: spend time visualizing the world you want and how you could get there.

Calz
10th February 2014, 05:38
Information.

Things have changed dramatically in terms of what information is now available to us.

There was no internet ... no blogs ... no alternative news sites (although there were a few interesting newsletter subscriptions).

Throughout the years we had to rely on such as this:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/12/06/Local/Images/HN-1941-002265.jpg


Hey ... our leaders and mainstream media never lie .... right??? Well at least we have certainly come to learn so but what about then???



Information.

Why do we go to war???

No need to speculate or trust other people's opinions. It's in our face.

Declassified documents from the military .... false flags either starting or attempting to start wars.

They even speak about what has (is) been done to the unsuspecting public.

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/070906_false_flag.html




Information.

No need to connect the dots ... "they" tell us exactly what "they" are up to.

Illooney naughty Albert Pike's famous letter discovered in 1871. Hey ... it was even in a UK museum for crying out loud.



Albert Pike's 1871 Plan For The Three World Wars

In 1871 Albert Pike envisioned three World Wars to be followed by an unparalleled economic disaster. Pike's plans have come to fruition, shockingly 'on target'. Who is Pike and perhaps more importantly who backed Pike?

Albert Pike's letter to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871:

•"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

•"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

•"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm


... and so

Despite all this ... information ... we (collectively) continue to fall for it again and again.


So are we forever doomed to repeat???


Interesting "implication posting" from Courtney Brown leading up to the "big February announcement" may suggest otherwise if we are to believe him:



Courtney Brown's Implication Posting #4

"Above all else, those who govern seek to control what the masses accept as true, and there is nothing that they will not do in order to achieve this since it is the sole source of their power. The belief that those who govern would not brazenly manipulate knowledge simply for their own benefit is the single most important belief that supports their continued reign. This belief always leads to confusion, despair, and relentless cynicism from within the ranks of those who are controlled. Once this belief is abandoned, free will returns absolutely, and great change is inevitable."

http://www.transients.info/2014/02/implications-posting-1-courtney-browns.html

Ineffable Hitchhiker
10th February 2014, 11:36
There are a bunch of psycopaths running this planet and war is the business of their god. ie. gold, oil and drugs.
Borders, nationalities etc. - all implemented to ensure that this agenda is continued for millennia after millenia. A paradigm of scarcity, of an "us and them".
And we believe them!
(Well some us. Am preaching to the choir here. )


As long as there are foot soldiers who buy into this mass hypnotism, there will not be an end to war.
There needs to be a mass awakening within the military ie. people willing to pick up a gun, before we can expect a change or a new era.

Calz
10th February 2014, 18:47
As long as there are foot soldiers who buy into this mass hypnotism, there will not be an end to war.




Thanks IH (wish you would post more again ... :) )


That raises some interesting issues.


It varies around the world no doubt ... but here there is no longer a draft so those that join the military do so of their own will.

Let's take a closer look at that however.

How many of us had a clear idea of what was going on in the world by the time we reached our late teens (normal age of enlisting)???

Not me.

How many of these kids succumb to "mass hypnosis" and perhaps have the best of intentions and feel they are doing the "right thing" in defending their country???

I expect the vast majority ... the mind control is unreal in amerika.


Once they sign on the dotted line then they have little choice but to "follow orders".


In a very real way I feel for these people.

They grow up fast and come face to face with a reality they were not in the slightest bit aware of.

What is the suicide rate now in the military??? Large. More take their own lives than are killed in combat.

Think about that for a moment.

They realize they made a mistake and feel so hopelessly out of control of the situation they cannot bear to simply ride out the last year or two of their commitment. Being big pharma test monkeys doesn't help the emotional or reasoning ability.


Then there is another side of the coin.

Private military ... mercenaries of the blackwater ilk.

Well paid ... and most definitately there of their own desire. Good money. Killing is "fun".


For the military at large to turn would take a remarkable event ... but that could very well happen in "these times".

Calz
13th February 2014, 20:02
This time ... we *must* not forget ...

One of the reasons "they" have kept us down for so long ... no more okay???




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAE6Il6OTcs