Rhosgobel Tent At TOT

[Elen]

I think it's a reference to the title, wishin and hopin. :p

I don't know what the deal is with the number twelve but it must be of some significance to them. Could be anything from the zodiac to the 12 apostles to the 12 tribes, but maybe in the end all of these things are related on some level.

Anyway, I'm out of here now. Somebody here broke a leg, and I have to deal with it, hospital and all. I don't have the energy for this kind of thing at the moment. :p:p

[bsbray]

Sorry about that Elen. I hope everything turns out alright. When you live in the homeland of Vikings I guess broken limbs just means you're doing something right. :smiley hug:

[modwiz]

Anyway, I'm out of here now. Somebody here broke a leg, and I have to deal with it, hospital and all. I don't have the energy for this kind of thing at the moment. :p:p

Yes, no time for humor dealing with a broken leg. Now, if it was the humerus...........:hmm:

On a serious note, my best wishes for a good dealing with it and recovery.

[modwiz]

Seeing that this is the Rhosgobel Tent, I think I can say it like this. Have a look at the EU ring with all those stars. It's the ring of power, the one to rule them all. So drawn to it, aren't they? Remember...:wiz:

OK, Elen, take two on this.

Yes, it does seem to have a hypnotic effect on them. Scotland now wants to try and break with Britain but, remain in the PU, or EU if my humor is missed on that one. I think it may make sense to Americans and not translate well. The only true power in in sovereignty, IMO. Alliances of sovereigns can work though they can be tricky too and were the trigger for WWl. It is my wish that this was a more dignified response. Dignity and tangential humor are queer dance partners.

[Fred Steeves]

A lot of newer members have no idea who I am or my history in the alternative forums. I have been in four to five of them for over six years now. Not so long but, long enough to be one of the "old timers".

Ah, the old timers club. Strange to think of six years in those terms, but that it surely be. A lot can happen in that amount of time round these parts, almost like a time compression thing.


I have been known to be somewhat merciless but, that has softened somewhat.

Erosion has a way of softening the rough edges if allowed, those rough edges we either didn't realize or didn't care were jabbing other people.


With that said, I will lean towards the side of sweetness.

Cheers Rad, you big sweety you :p :chrs:

[enjoy being]

The 12 around 1. There's a few who use that. When you start delving into its past. I have constructed some items utilizing 12 around 1. It is 12 made of 3 and 9 around 1, that item is then nestled in the center of 5.
3x6 is 18. The 3 and 9 are placed around the 1 in the order of 1,3,1,3,1,3. The items numbered are amethyst which has 6 faces and vibrates to the number 3.

Just to be a bit random. Also, today makes the numbers of the stand which holds the 12 around 1 nested in 5.. Reach maturity. As it contains a relic of my 21st birthday in silver, and today being the day I reach twice that, 42.
:smiley-dance013:

Oh, and the seed quartz, citrine, and pounamu beak of the bird (pictured in my avatar) are part of the stand, taking the number for the 13 and 5 to 21. Allowing for a 63. 6 and 3 again. ..and there is another 21 found in the 12 around one in way of green stripes. Making 84 which can be 12, or 21 is 3 and there are 4 of them.

[modwiz]

The 12 around 1. There's a few who use that. When you start delving into its past. I have constructed some items utilizing 12 around 1. It is 12 made of 3 and 9 around 1, that item is then nestled in the center of 5.
3x6 is 18. The 3 and 9 are placed around the 1 in the order of 1,3,1,3,1,3. The items numbered are amethyst which has 6 faces and vibrates to the number 3.

Just to be a bit random. Also, today makes the numbers of the stand which holds the 12 around 1 nested in 5.. Reach maturity. As it contains a relic of my 21st birthday in silver, and today being the day I reach twice that, 42.
:smiley-dance013:

Happy birthday. A few more people in the tent and we could have a party. Ah yes, the forties. My tantric tango years.:eyebrows:

[Aragorn]

[...] As it contains a relic of my 21st birthday in silver, and today being the day I reach twice that, 42.
:smiley-dance013:

Psst, you might want to look at this thread here (http://jandeane81.com/threads/9532-Happy-Birthday-Nothing). ;)

[modwiz]

Psst, you might want to look at this thread here (http://jandeane81.com/threads/9532-Happy-Birthday-Nothing). ;)

Thanks brother. Been there, done that.:thup:

BTW, you might want to look into the psst sound. Sounds like a leak.:grin:

[Aragorn]

[...] As it contains a relic of my 21st birthday in silver, and today being the day I reach twice that, 42.
:smiley-dance013:

Psst, you might want to look at this thread here (http://jandeane81.com/threads/9532-Happy-Birthday-Nothing). ;)

Thanks brother. Been there, done that.:thup:

I was actually addressing member Nothing. :p


BTW, you might want to look into the psst sound. Sounds like a leak.:grin:

Yeah, it reminds me of that joke of the two balloons walking through the desert. One says to the other: "Watch out, there's a cactussssssssssssss..." :ttr:

[modwiz]

I was actually addressing member Nothing. :p


I know. I had just posted in that thread when your post showed up here. Hence, been there, done that. Wasn't being flip.

[Aragorn]

I know. I had just posted in that thread when your post showed up here. Hence, been there, done that. Wasn't being flip.

Yep, I saw your post when I next refreshed the Home page in my browser, but Nothing hasn't seen the thread yet. ;) :eyebrows:

[modwiz]

How about some information? Rudolph Diesel, inventor of the diesel engine. It was made to burn any vegetable, nut or seed oil (hemp) and was his answer to the foul emissions of petroleum burning cars.

Diesel's Humanitarian Vision:

Diesel originally thought that the diesel engine, (readily adaptable in size and utilizing locally available fuels) would enable independent craftsmen and artisans to endure the powered competition of large industries that then virtually monopolized the predominant power source-the oversized, expensive, fuel-wasting steam engine. During 1885 Diesel set up his first shop-laboratory in Paris and began his 13-year ordeal of creating his distinctive engine.. At Augsburg, on August 10, 1893, Diesel's prime model, a single 10-foot iron cylinder with a flywheel at its base, ran on its own power for the first time. Diesel spent two more years at improvements and on the last day of 1896 demonstrated another model with the spectacular, if theoretical, mechanical efficiency of 75.6 percent, in contrast to the then-prevailing efficiency of the steam engine of 10 percent or less. Although commercial manufacture was delayed another year and even then begun at a snail's pace, by 1898 Diesel was a millionaire from franchise fees in great part international. His engines were used to power pipelines, electric and water plants, automobiles and trucks, and marine craft, and soon after were used in applications including mines, oil fields, factories, and transoceanic shipping.2

DuPont, Mellon, and Hearst:

Diesel expected that his engine would be powered by vegetable oils (including hemp) and seed oils. At the 1900 World's Fair, Diesel ran his engines on peanut oil. Later, George Schlichten invented a hemp 'decorticating' machine that stood poised to revolutionize paper making. Henry Ford demonstrated that cars can be made of, and run on, hemp. Evidence suggests a special-interest group that included the DuPont petrochemical company, Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon (Dupont's major financial backer), and the newspaper man William Randolph Hearst mounted a yellow journalism campaign against hemp. Hearst deliberately confused psychoactive marijuana with industrial hemp, one of humankind's oldest and most useful resources. DuPont and Hearst were heavily invested in timber and petroleum resources, and saw hemp as a threat to their empires. Petroleum companies also knew that petroleum emits noxious, toxic byproducts when incompletely burned, as in an auto engine. Pollution was important to Diesel and he saw his engine as a solution to the inefficient, highly polluting engines of his time. In 1937 DuPont, Mellen and Hearst were able to push a "marijuana" prohibition bill through Congress in less than three months, which destroyed the domestic hemp industry.

A Mystery:

Diesel died under mysterious circumstances in 1913, vanishing during an overnight crossing of the English Channel on the mail steamer Dresden from Antwerp to Harwich. Diesel's death might have been suicide, accidental or an assassination. Proponents of the assassination theory point out that shortly after Diesel's death, a diesel-powered German submarine fleet became the scourge of the seas. Diesel had been friendly to France, Britain and the United States.
http://www.hempcar.org/diesel.shtml

If one looks at Wikipedia,:vom: they do mention his "mysterious" death, comment of his decomposing corpse and some financial things to substantiate it as a suicide.:shocked: None of the above "conspiratorial" information is mentioned:hmm:

Some more info:

The Diesel Engine was designed and built by Rudolf Diesel and it ran on pure groundnut oil. He was very concerned about the soot, grime and dirt of the industrial age, and he decided to make a clean engine to replace the use of steam boilers. The engine he designed was much cleaner than coal fired steam boilers. It used renewable energy, and seen as a way to prevent the smog, soot and grime of the 19th century.


Rudolf Diesel had a humanitarian vision. He was concerned about the pollution of the industrial age that he lived. This spurred his desire to create a clean engine to replace the steam boiler engine that ran on coal. His engine would be adaptable in size and utilized locally available fuels like vegetable oil.

Rudolf Diesel said, "The diesel engine can be fed with vegetable oils and would help considerably in the development of agriculture of the countries which use it"

"The use of vegetable oils for engine fuels may seem insignificant today. But such oils may become in course of time as important as petroleum and the coal tar products of the present time."

He also felt that his engine would enable independent craftsmen, artisans, farmers and small industry to endure the powered competition of larger industries that virtually monopolized the predominant power source, the oversized, expensive, fuel-wasting steam engine.


At the 1900 World's Fair, Diesel ran his engines on peanut oil. He knew vegetable oils (including hemp) and seed oils would power his engine. Diesel saw his engine as a solution to the pollution being created during his time. In his bio-oil solution, Diesel provided a technological and energy choice for the consumer that made integrating petroleum needless and cut into the petrol oil monopoly profits.

On September 29th, 1913, Rudolf Diesel died under mysterious circumstances. He vanished during an overnight crossing of the English Channel on a mail steamer Dresden from Antwerp to Harwich. After his death, the Diesel engine was engineered to run only on petroleum and his great ideas of a clean burning engine died with him.

George Schlichten later invented a hemp 'decorticating' machine that stood poised to revolutionize papermaking. Henry Ford demonstrated that cars could be made of, and run on, hemp.

Much more here:http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/janak/061025

And since this is as much about hemp as it is about Diesel himslf let us throw a little more expansion into the discussion.

Ford And Deisel Never
Intended Cars
To Use Gasoline


Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONSTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.
http://rense.com/general67/ford.htm

That's all for now so let me break and have a little of the hemp oil I have in the fridge and get my Omega oils.

[modwiz]

Something short and sweet by "dad".


My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) … the most improper job of any man, even saints (who at any rate were at least unwilling to take it on), is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity.

– J. R. R. Tolkien

[Aragorn]

How about some information? Rudolph Diesel, inventor of the diesel engine. It was made to burn any vegetable, nut or seed oil (hemp) and was his answer to the foul emissions of petroleum burning cars.

[...]

DuPont, Mellon, and Hearst:

[...] Petroleum companies also knew that petroleum emits noxious, toxic byproducts when incompletely burned, as in an auto engine. Pollution was important to Diesel and he saw his engine as a solution to the inefficient, highly polluting engines of his time. [...]

Some more info:

The Diesel Engine was designed and built by Rudolf Diesel and it ran on pure groundnut oil. He was very concerned about the soot, grime and dirt of the industrial age, and he decided to make a clean engine to replace the use of steam boilers. The engine he designed was much cleaner than coal fired steam boilers. It used renewable energy, and seen as a way to prevent the smog, soot and grime of the 19th century. [...]

Disclaimer: My following comments are solely from the point of view of a petrolhead.

First of all, a diesel engine — when running on commercially sold diesel fuel — is actually highly polluting. Gasoline/petrol engines do not emit any soot, while diesel engines do, and quite a lot too.

In fact, the soot from a diesel exhaust is much more of a carcinogen than tobacco, and in spite of all the spin et al from the health sector and the anti-tobacco league, a 10-minute walk through a busy street here in Western Europe — where most of the traffic is still comprised of diesel-powered vehicles due to the fact that diesel fuel has since at least the 1970s already been made significantly cheaper than gasoline/petrol in order to placate the European transport sector, which relies far more heavily on trucks than on railroads or river ships — will get more carcinogens into your lungs than the smoking of an entire carton of cigarettes.

In addition to that, diesel exhaust also contains sulphur, which combines with hydrogen and oxygen in the atmosphere to form sulphuric acid — either in the form of H2SO3 or as H2SO4 — which then comes down again in the form of acid rain. This has proved to be a real problem, and especially so to forests and other vegetation, but of course also to just about everything else. Sulphuric acid is not the strongest acid, but one of the strongest ones nevertheless.

Secondly, if you put anything other than diesel fuel into your diesel-powered vehicle, then you will be fined heavily, because that's illegal — or at least, here in Europe it is. It's illegal because it's considered tax evasion. Here in Europe, we pay about three times as much at the pump as US Americans do, and all of that surplus cost is import tax. By the same token, fuel oil used for central heating is perfectly usable as diesel fuel, but the use of that in a vehicle is illegal as well, again because it's considered tax evasion, given that fuel oil is a lot cheaper than "official" diesel fuel.

Furthermore, it's also illegal because the use of vegetable oils as a fuel is considered "a shameful waste" in the face of world famine. For that matter, they make the same objections on account of the cultivation of plants from which ethanol can be derived as a substitute for gasoline/petrol. They say it's wasteful, either because the plants themselves can be used for nutritional purposes, or where this is not the case, then it's the land those plants are grown on which could be used for growing vegetables. Hypocrisy galore, of course, because the reason why there is famine anywhere is because society was engineered to create an artificial scarcity in the first place.

An alternative to the extraction of ethanol from produce which could otherwise also be used by the food industry has already been proposed, in the form of genetically modified pine trees from which ethanol could be extracted. Pine trees neither serve as food for humans, nor as food for animals which themselves are consumed as food by humans, so there couldn't possibly be any objection against that, right?

Well... The green parties in Europe rejected and loudly protested against it because of the genetic engineering aspect. Go figure. :fpalm:

[Aragorn]

Something short and sweet by "dad".


My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs) … the most improper job of any man, even saints (who at any rate were at least unwilling to take it on), is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity.

– J. R. R. Tolkien


I couldn't agree more. And especially so on account of the last sentence in that quote. :winner:

[modwiz]

Disclaimer: My following comments are solely from the point of view of a petrolhead.

First of all, a diesel engine — when running on commercially sold diesel fuel — is actually highly polluting. Gasoline/petrol engines do not emit any soot, while diesel engines do, and quite a lot too.

In fact, the soot from a diesel exhaust is much more of a carcinogen than tobacco, and in spite of all the spin et al from the health sector and the anti-tobacco league, a 10-minute walk through a busy street here in Western Europe — where most of the traffic is still comprised of diesel-powered vehicles due to the fact that diesel fuel has since at least the 1970s already been made significantly cheaper than gasoline/petrol in order to placate the European transport sector, which relies far more heavily on trucks than on railroads or river ships — will get more carcinogens in your lungs than the smoking of an entire carton of cigarettes.

In addition to that, diesel exhaust also contains sulphur, which combines with hydrogen and oxygen in the atmosphere to form sulphuric acid — either in the form of H2SO3 or as H2SO4 — which then comes down again in the form of acid rain. This has proved to be a real problem, and especially so to forests and other vegetation, but of course also to just about everything else. Sulphuric acid is not the strongest acid, but one of the strongest ones nevertheless.

Secondly, if you put anything other than diesel fuel into your diesel-powered vehicle, then you will be fined heavily, because that's illegal — or at least, here in Europe it is. It's illegal because it's considered tax evasion. Here in Europe, we pay about three times as much at the pump as US Americans do, and all of that surplus cost is import tax. By the same token, fuel oil used for central heating is perfectly usable as diesel fuel, but the use of that in a vehicle is illegal as well, again because it's considered tax evasion, given that fuel oil is a lot cheaper than "official" diesel fuel.

Furthermore, it's also illegal because the use of vegetable oils as a fuel is considered "a shameful waste" in the face of world famine. For that matter, they make the same objections on account of the cultivation of plants from which ethanol can be derived as a substitute for gasoline/petrol. They say it's wasteful, either because the plants themselves can be used for nutritional purposes, or where this is not the case, then it's the land those plants are grown on which could be used for growing vegetables. Hypocrisy galore, of course, because the reason why there is famine anywhere is because society was engineered to create an artificial scarcity in the first place.

An alternative to the extraction of ethanol from produce which could otherwise also be used by the food industry has already been proposed, in the form of genetically modified pine trees from which ethanol could be extracted. Pine trees do not serve as food for humans, so there couldn't be any objection against that. However, the green parties in Europe protested against that because of the genetic engineering aspect.

Go figure. :fpalm:

Yes, petroleum diesel is a slap in the face and as included, hemp seed oil was the real target fuel. Much of the post was a hemp promotion, albeit quite camouflaged. I am glad you posted what you did as others might do the same and this gives me a chance to clear it up.

You do a good job of it yourself later into your post. Ford and Diesel saw a better future for humanity as they were participating humans. What we have now is the parasitic, dare we say archontic forces, who have the reins of the world and their plans are not just profit but the misery that feeds other beings. Might as well bring the woo woo into the conversation because it is what is the driving force behind things. Just out of the range of human visible spectrum is a vast other existence that some of us are aware of and some of "us" are the wrong kind of beings.

Hemp and all things that grow as well as the rain from the sky was "given" to us. There is not a single scripture that indicates otherwise. ANY legislation/law prohibiting our full use of Nature is demonic and if we can get the Bible thumpers, Koran carriers and Torah toters on board, we might be able to reclaim what was given to us. We would then have the critical numbers with enough passion to storm town halls and say, " I'm mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore." Anyone standing between us and Creation/Nature reveals themselves aligned with demonic forces. Aiding and abetting these critters will not get you into heaven. For those who go that route, and that is a whole lot of humanity.

Outlawing hemp, cannabis or even opium poppies and coca leaves is as criminal as outlawing an apple. Abuse issue belong to a community to manage and not goobermints.

Ben Franklin replied to a woman about the kind of government formed at the constitutional convention, " A republic ma'am, if you can keep it." We got a second amendment to assist that "keeping". We failed.

One could even say after Creation, God rested and said, "Here is the world, given to you. If you can keep it". That is how the "visitors" have seen it. We failed.

A new test is upon us. Will we see to it that we pass this time?

History repeats itself, cosmic and terrestrial.

[modwiz]

Since this video is not a Modwiz one, I will put it here. It is our other weekly show at Global Mission of Peace T.V. or GMoP T.V. Penelope Torribio is a brilliant artist, educator and thinker and uses puppets to communicate her ideas. Yes, children are a primary target because many adults are jaded but, in Indonesia shadow puppets are used to tell adult stories like the Mahabharata. Only a half hour long this is one of my favorite Circle 555 shows. It is a deep interview with a fascinating and animated woman.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FNlOTgm8-0

[Novusod]

Bio-fuels are massive double edged sword. After being suppressed for over 100 years the cabal changed tactics and hatched a plot cause mass starvation by paying farmers to plant fuel instead of food. The plot caused near famine conditions in many poorer parts of the world for a few years in 2007-2010.

This was real. How short our memories are:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rtidv5owDDU/TovonWggKoI/AAAAAAAAABk/g-bIO-22B3U/s320/url.gif
http://permaculturenews.org/images/biofuels_fuel_vs_food.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/nicky_rulz/275_cartoon_for_food_or_fuel_sma-1.gif

Luckily people caught on to this pretty quickly and it was stopped before too much damage was done. Even if you use hemp there is only so much arable land to grow it on. The Earth's soil is dying fast enough as it is. This is the way the dark powers operate; they take even benevolent ideas and twist them to their own agenda. Diesel case in point. We need to be careful what we wish for, we might just get it and regret it.

How about this for an unlimited clean power supply though?
Bladeless windmills (http://www.wired.com/2015/05/future-wind-turbines-no-blades/) that harness vibration for power.

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/vortex-1024x576.jpeg

It has been foretold that humanity will make a breakthrough when we start harnessing natural vibration. Go with the flow instead of fighting it.

[modwiz]

Bio-fuels are massive double edged sword. After being suppressed for over 100 years the cabal changed tactics and hatched a plot cause mass starvation by paying farmers to plant fuel instead of food. The plot caused near famine conditions in many poorer parts of the world for a few years in 2007-2010.

This was real. How short our memories are:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rtidv5owDDU/TovonWggKoI/AAAAAAAAABk/g-bIO-22B3U/s320/url.gif
http://permaculturenews.org/images/biofuels_fuel_vs_food.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/nicky_rulz/275_cartoon_for_food_or_fuel_sma-1.gif

Luckily people caught on to this pretty quickly and it was stopped before too much damage was done. Even if you use hemp there is only so much arable land to grow it on. The Earth's soil is dying fast enough as it is. This is the way the dark powers operate; they take even benevolent ideas and twist them to their own agenda. Diesel case in point. We need to be careful what we wish for, we might just get it and regret it.

How about this for an unlimited clean power supply though?
Bladeless windmills (http://www.wired.com/2015/05/future-wind-turbines-no-blades/) that harness vibration for power.

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/vortex-1024x576.jpeg

It has been foretold that humanity will make a breakthrough when we start harnessing natural vibration. Go with the flow instead of fighting it.

I have stated that my post was a pro-hemp piece hidden in other material. Using any regular crop that is usually used for food is silly and wasteful. Food crops need special attention also. Hemp , is a weed and very tolerant of extremes of weather as any meadow shows. When arid, they go brown and return to green when rain comes. Lawns die if left unattended. So, my whole point of the diesel engine was it can run beautifully on hemp and that hemp needs to be returned to the people as God intended it. Hopefully all know the many uses for the plant and powering our vehicles is just the cherry on top, even thought it could be the cake as well. Hemp does not kill birds as some wind turbines have been known to do and it grows quietly as turbines do not. Solar for houses has never been cheaper per kilowatt than it is currently.

Those blade-less turbines are look like they are a very good improvement and would be bird friendly.

Electric cars have the lithium controversy with them. Our current presence in Afghanistan is not just about opium. Rare earth metals are in abundance.

Anyway, hemp diesel seems a very sane and green solution using a time tested engine to get us around.

[Maggie]

I have stated that my post was a pro-hemp piece hidden in other material. Using any regular crop that is usually used for food is silly and wasteful. Food crops need special attention also. Hemp , is a weed and very tolerant of extremes of weather as any meadow shows. When arid, they go brown and return to green when rain comes. Lawns die if left unattended. So, my whole point of the diesel engine was it can run beautifully on hemp and that hemp needs to be returned to the people as God intended it. Hopefully all know the many uses for the plant and powering our vehicles is just the cherry on top, even thought it could be the cake as well. Hemp does not kill birds as some wind turbines have been known to do and it grows quietly as turbines do not. Solar for houses has never been cheaper per kilowatt than it is currently.

Those blade-less turbines are look like they are a very good improvement and would be bird friendly.

...............
Anyway, hemp diesel seems a very sane and green solution using a time tested engine to get us around.

Hemp is an indomitable weed. It is so sturdy, so prolific, so beneficial to its surroundings. It will certainly prevail, even if we fall off the wheel and some unknown life forms surplant humans. To cultivate hemp is to be one of the real people.

wowow. I had no idea but possibility....

http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/vortex-1024x576.jpeg

.....is like

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and all these (https://www.google.com/search?q=standing+stones&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJrubO2sjNAhUHXB4KHVQLCl0Q_AUICSgC&biw=1366&bih=667#imgdii=dAy4ExBpPtXjoM%3A%3BdAy4ExBpPtXjoM% 3A%3Bsvi1QwwE_Dj2hM%3A&imgrc=dAy4ExBpPtXjoM%3A)

[modwiz]

It has been a busy day for me outside of ToT and I will get some fresh content up soon. I speak largely to the many viewers who are not members. I watch the numbers and see that there are well over a hundred , or more, visits a day to this thread. I wanted those readers to know I am aware of them and will get some posts up ASAP. I cannot do much about the forum response here and will do what I can to carry on a conversation anyway. Still getting my "chops" back and hope to get good forum conversation flowing again. My sense of humor is not everyone's cup of tea, nor my sense of what is topical. Blessings to all.:priest:

[modwiz]

I found this story at Giza Death Star the site of Joseph P Farrell and one I check daily. It has the following title: RUSSIA TO DEVELOP TELEPORTATION TECHNOLOGY IN 20 YEARS


While the world has been focussed on the BREXIT vote and its implications, including (now) all the talk in the UK about why and how the referendum should be disregarded - after all, the "elites" think they're "elite"; why should they pay any attention to the public or silly things like votes and referenda - there have been some very interesting stories regarding space and technology, and the "strange stuff" I like to write about and that readers here come to expect. One of the many soace-and-technology-related stories I saw this past week was this one, shared by Ms. K.M., and I thought this one was a stunner, if one lets the implications soak in:

Russia aims to develop 'teleportation' in 20 years

Note what this is really all about: it's about a strategic development plan in which teleportation of information is a component of a wider strategic plan to expand Russia's computer technology, software, security, and yes, cyber-warfare capacity:

Now a Kremlin-backed research program is seeking to make the teleportation technology behind Captain Kirk’s transporter a reality.

A proposed multi-trillion pound strategic development program drawn up for Vladimir Putin would seek to develop teleportation by 2035

Giza Death Star link here:http://gizadeathstar.com/2016/06/russia-develope-teleportation-technology-20-years/

Original article at The Telegraph here:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/22/russia-aims-to-develop-teleportation-in-20-years/

[modwiz]

And while we are on the subject of "evil" Russia and its "thug" President Vladimir Putin, let me present an article connected with Russia's plan to become the organic produce supplier for the world. That is until Western companies get over their love affair with GMO's. Hard to do because of their love of money, the root of all evil, and their outright contempt for their populations.

Russian State Duma Passes Total Ban on GMO Crops and Animals


Russia’s State Duma adopted Friday the third and final reading of a government bill that introduces a total ban on the cultivation and breeding in Russia of genetically modified (GM) plants and animals, except for scientific research purposes.

The Sate Duma has also given the Russian Government the right to prevent the import of products containing GMOs in to Russia, if it is revealed that a specific GMO has a negative impact on human health and/or the environment

Russia’s Agriculture Minister, Alexander Tkachev, stated Friday; ”The Ministry of Agriculture is strongly against GMOs, Russian products will remain clean.”


http://sustainablepulse.com/2016/06/25/russian-parliament-passes-total-ban-on-gmo-crops-and-animals/#.V3HhhaI1SQ6

I post articles on World affairs here because though many get their alternative news from their favorite sources, it seems many still get much of their world affairs news and views from the same old toilet.

[modwiz]

OK. To give Ben Fulford a modicum of respect for his newsletter, I will only post a link to the full report without any excerpts here. I grabbed the link from "the other place''. I enjoy reading his reports for entertainment purposes. Kinda like satire, there can be some truth hidden in it. Also, the newsletter has links to articles of merit that may have been missed.

My own perspective on Ben and some of his bias. He lives in Japan and his reports on China contains a distinct Japanese view of their mainland neighbor. Not quite as paranoid as the Polish view of Russia but, something along those lines. Knowing the different countries and how they have historical issues with other countries allows one to apply the appropriate filters when reading things. It makes the parsing of any useful information easier.

http://operationdisclosure.blogspot.dk/2016/06/benjamin-fulford-report-june-27-2016.html

[Cearna]

Not sure where else to put this, but is interesting information, albeit a few days late. Astrology from Lyn Hayes

Report on the Full Moon Summer Solstice

Posted: 21 Jun 2016 04:00 PM PDT
full moon summer solstice


While the Summer Solstice is usually celebrated on June 21st, the astrological Solstice occurs when the Sun enters Cancer, and that occurred this year on June 20th. This Summer Solstice coincided with the Full Moon, something we hadn’t seen apparently since 1948 (according to news reports).

The Sun is strongest in a sign when it first enters that sign, and when the Sun enters one of the Cardinal signs (Aries, Cancer, Libra, Capricorn) it is even stronger. The cardinal signs initiate a new season – a new phase in human life – and the energies in the Solstice and Equinox charts are often used to forecast the weather for the season.

The Full Moon occurred at the 29th degree of Sagittarius – the so-called “anaretic” degree. The 29th degree, sometimes called the œcritical” or œanaretic” degree, is associated with the endings of cycles and new beginnings. The word œanaretic” derives from œanareta,” which in medieval astrology signified the planet of death in the natal horoscope. This is likely what has given the 29th degree such a bad rap in traditional astrology, although endings are actually the harbinger of new beginnings and not to be feared.

So we have the conclusion of a lunar cycle occurring at the same time as a beginning of a solar cycle – a confluence of events that signifies a closing of one door and an opening of another. The Sagittarius Full Moon seeks expansive dreams and increased wisdom, and the Summer Solstice and Cancerian Sun brings fertility and water to nurture the soil and plants.

However, with Saturn (rules and boundaries) in Sagittarius (expansion and faith) we have to continue to set limits and be realistic (Saturn) and careful not to let the Sagittarius confidence expand beyond the bounds of reason. Saturn is in a challenging square to Neptune right now, challenging our ideals and putting a kibosh on our dreams until we have built a solid foundation on which they can thrive.

This Saturn/Neptune square sometimes corresponds to a sense of spiritual deprivation which makes this a good time to bring our attention back to a spiritual (Neptune) practice (Saturn). Neptunian spirituality is not always meditation or something directly spiritual – it can be a practice of music or art which also helps us to transcend the boundaries of ordinary consciousness. Magic is needed during these times – but we must temper our search for Magic with the care and diligence of Saturn as long as this square is in effect.

The post Report on the Full Moon Summer Solstice appeared first on Astrology readings and writings by Lynn Hayes.

[Dreamtimer]

Modwiz, the news about Russia and non GMO foods is the best I've heard in a while. Strong language: "The government will not poison its citizens."

[modwiz]

Not sure where else to put this, but is interesting information, albeit a few days late. Astrology from Lyn Hayes

I appreciate you choosing this thread and think it is a good fit.

[modwiz]

Sometimes the way to get a conversation started is by being controversial. Ya know "plug people in" and get them riled, lol. So I will pick a topic that should stir it up and the subject is Sharia, or Islamic law.

Now, there is understandable ignorance on this subject but, there is not so understandable ignorance about the religion of Islam. After all, given their numbers, and now their movement about the planet, it does behoove one to "get up to speed" on the topic. Why? Because understanding one another is crucial to the practice of loving one another. Right now, Islam is "the Other" and that is a classic control mechanism for keeping people in war mode. It is key to controlling people by pitting them against each other.

To keep these posts readable, (and get post counts up, see here http://jandeane81.com/threads/9354-Forum-approaches-100-K?p=841952393#post841952393) this post will briefly lay out some key misconceptions about Islam.

Although there is a general knowledge of two main sects within Islam, the Sunni and Shia, there is a third very important sect hiding in the Sunni designation that does not belong there, and that is Wahhabism, the feral distortion of Islam out of Saudi Arabia. If one were to go to a Shia mosque and pick up a Koran it would be identical to the one in a true Sunni one. Pick up a Wahhabi Koran and the differences and distortions begin. When one hears of Madrasas, and I hope one has, one is hearing of a school of Wahhabism and the terror that comes from them. Jihad is a word meaning struggle, specifically to keep the world moral and holy. It is a matter of will and purpose and does not imply arming oneself with a weapon unless such equipment is required to achieve the result. The word Jihad has been purposely distorted in the Westen Press and been greatly assisted by Wahhabists also distorting it. Saudi Arabia is a big part of the parasitic culture currently in control of the world and it branch of Islam is made to aid the the controllers. Wahhabism and its horrific practices are a form of Satanic worship, which requires a constant supply of blood flowing. Beheading is a sure way to maximize blood output and is a particularly gruesome visage that creates more loosh than other forms of execution. That loosh coming from any spectators. Wahhabism is a Satanic sect of Islam and its form of Sharia law is Satanic and not Koranic which is Ummah based. Ummah is an Islamic community or greater collective.


The word Ummah refers to "the people" in Arabic, more specifically to Muslim people with a common ideology and culture. "Ummah" is also said in the Quran by Allah referring to Muslims. It is more commonly used in Islamic countries. Muslim Ummah refers to the unity of Muslims all over the world. The Muslim Ummah is responsible for upholding the religion and therefore benefiting the community regardless whether the community is Muslim or non-Muslim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ummah

I will end this post here and get to Shariah law in the next post. I have to wait a little bit or the post will adjoin this one.

[modwiz]

There will be a little more time before my post of Sharia will go up. I wish to put it as much in my own words as possible and performing some due diligence is time consuming. I wish to do the subject some justice and not be ignorant about the information presented. Wikipedia is somewhat helpful but, the best information is probably written in Arabic. It is my hope that this subject will find some interest because to wallow in the distortions provided in the media serves no one except the controllers and promoters of division between humanity.

One thing is for sure. Even when Muslims live in mixed populations Sharia is only applied to them and the other faiths are expected to follow their own version of jurisprudence. This is something we seldom or never see mentioned when the boogie man flag of Sharia is waved.

[modwiz]

I had a brutal day with meeting and had little left after the fact. Apologies for a languishing thread. There was little to grab of the web either. Only so much Brexit to talk about and nothing to outrageous from the troublemakers who run the various goobermints. I am playing with making short videos called, Modwiz Moments, to insert in here once in a while.

Tomorrow is another day like today and output might be low again. I am looking forward to Friday when I can return to my normal groove.

Take it, Dan.:dan:

[Elen]

I had a brutal day with meeting and had little left after the fact. Apologies for a languishing thread. There was little to grab of the web either. Only so much Brexit to talk about and nothing to outrageous from the troublemakers who run the various goobermints. I am playing with making short videos called, Modwiz Moments, to insert in here once in a while.

Tomorrow is another day like today and output might be low again. I am looking forward to Friday when I can return to my normal groove.

Take it, Dan.:dan:

I'm just wondering...when do you sleep? Do you sit on a chair and wake up when your head drops down? :magic:,

[modwiz]

I'm just wondering...when do you sleep? Do you sit on a chair and wake up when your head drops down? :magic:,


When I hear birds begin to sing it is a cue for me to go to bed. I sometimes miss that cue. Went to bed early, around 3:30 AM but, woke up at 5 AM and got manic here on the forum. Then I slept from 8AM to 2 PM today and began my work day at 3PM and finished around 11 PM. I had a Mystic View to record and get to our graphics person so it can go up Sunday. I am aiming for a 4 AM bedtime tonight. My aim sometimes stinks.:shocked:

LOL. Reads like an entry in a diary

[Cearna]

Yes, this is our time of the day, not all that often one when I see you on.

I'm pleased to see you entering a discussion on Islam. As you know, I was once engaged to a Bedoin from Israel. He did not follow his religion, but his family did, and I lived with one or another of his family, either in Jerusalem, or the West Bank. Because Of my association with him, I almost became an undesirable alien, coming and going at the airports, the many times I went to visit, in order to see if we could in fact make a marriage work. We even bought a small shop together, in the old city market, which unfortunately was burnt down by the PLO.

This was because the PLO would call a strike for a specific time, this instead of Jihad, where all Arbs had to stop what ever work they did, or they had their cabs, or shops etc burnt down, to make sure their was solidarity. We could never start again, no money to do it back up and restock.

These were a peaceful people, those I moved amongst were not trouble makers, they just wanted a future for their children, which was very much under threat. There was also a much lesser degree of equality for these two separate branches of the one Abrahamic family. I found it difficult to come to terms with some of the customs, although most he didn't ask me to become a part of. Language was a problem, but most of our friends spoke English because they worked in the market with the tourist trade. He did however, somewhat subject me to the vetting of his friends, to see if I was a worthy "wife" to be. That was somewhat strange, but I passed. I did go to Arabic school in Sydney to learn Arabic (I'm hopeless at it) as did many of the Moselms in Sydney who come from places like Malaysia and Indonesia.

I did ask them once, (This is younger late teenage youths) why would I seek to become a Moslem, and they said because Allah, is always there with us. I asked can you feel the presence and was told "OH yes" so no difference to me than feeling my own minders right next to me. I was always treated with great respect and given the best that was possible to give me. The only time I had any problem, was in the village in the West Bank, when his youngest sister took me around and I got pelted (from a distance) by young boys, but his sister yelled out, stop, don't throw anything at her, she comes from Australia, NOT America. Mind you we had some similar treatment in Paris in a shop where the shop keepers thought we were American, but became more respectful, when told we were Australian.

I hope this is a small insight. and in the interest of that same thread http://jandeane81.com/threads/9354-F...#post841952393)

Let's dance Modwiz, I'm rather good at the Waltz.:dan::dan::dan::dan::dan::dan::dan::dan::dan ::dan::wiz:

[modwiz]

Well, I was wrong. A story about the Orlando shooting came up and it is a bit of a doozy. Judge Napolitano is a frequent FOX "news' guest. He is one of the saner people on TV and speaks his mind because no one dares to take a Judge to task and he is smart. Hard for witless people to go up against an actual intellect with something resembling integrity. He made a statement on the network that says an FBI report says that "No one died before 5:13 AM." I will begin posting from the article and insert the short clip with him making the statement on FOX.

Judge: FBI Transcript Shows Nobody Died in Orlando Shooting Until SWAT Teams entered the Building


What should have been front page news everywhere, somehow got buried amid the official narrative we were given about the Orlando shooting. Judge Andrew Napolitano told FOX News that an FBI transcript indicated that no one died until 05:13am Sunday morning when the police SWAT teams entered the building.

“Here’s what is news in the summary – nobody died until 05:13 in the morning, when the SWAT team entered. Prior to that no one had been killed. The 53 that were injured, and the 49 that were murdered all met their fates at the time of, and during, the police entry into the building,” Judge Napolitano said.



OK. That is one part of the story. Now, there is this piece of it:


If that was not enough, police officers have even admitted that they may have killed some of the people. WFAA reports:

Monday, Orlando Police Chief John Mina and other law enforcement officers offered new details about the shooting, including the possibility that some victims may have been killed by officers trying to save them.

“I will say this, that’s all part of the investigation,” Mina said. “But I will say when our SWAT officers, about eight or nine officers, opened fire, the backdrop was a concrete wall, and they were being fired upon.”

A law enforcement source close to the investigation who asked not to be named said a crowd of up to 300 people and the complex layout of the dance club may have resulted in some patrons being struck by gunfire from officers.

Did he say, OOPS? Nah, just that some patrons might have been struck by gunfire. Merely a flesh wound perhaps? :Knight:

Here is the four minute video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgRkh1NHlX8

And the link to the story. http://freedomoutpost.com/judge-fbi-transcript-shows-nobody-died-in-orlando-shooting-until-swat-teams-entered-the-building/

[Elen]

Well, I was wrong. A story about the Orlando shooting came up and it is a bit of a doozy. Judge Napolitano is a frequent FOX "news' guest. He is one of the saner people on TV and speaks his mind because no one dares to take a Judge to task and he is smart. Hard for witless people to go up against an actual intellect with something resembling integrity. He made a statement on the network that says an FBI report says that "No one died before 5:13 AM." I will begin posting from the article and insert the short clip with him making the statement on FOX.

Judge: FBI Transcript Shows Nobody Died in Orlando Shooting Until SWAT Teams entered the Building



OK. That is one part of the story. Now, there is this piece of it:



Did he say, OOPS? Nah, just that some patrons might have been struck by gunfire. Merely a flesh wound perhaps? :Knight:

Here is the four minute video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgRkh1NHlX8

And the link to the story. http://freedomoutpost.com/judge-fbi-transcript-shows-nobody-died-in-orlando-shooting-until-swat-teams-entered-the-building/

That is really shocking. :shocked:

[modwiz]

Yes, this is our time of the day, not all that often one when I see you on.

I'm pleased to see you entering a discussion on Islam. As you know, I was once engaged to a Bedoin from Israel. He did not follow his religion, but his family did, and I lived with one or another of his family, either in Jerusalem, or the West Bank. Because Of my association with him, I almost became an undesirable alien, coming and going at the airports, the many times I went to visit, in order to see if we could in fact make a marriage work. We even bought a small shop together, in the old city market, which unfortunately was burnt down by the PLO.

This was because the PLO would call a strike for a specific time, this instead of Jihad, where all Arbs had to stop what ever work they did, or they had their cabs, or shops etc burnt down, to make sure their was solidarity. We could never start again, no money to do it back up and restock.

These were a peaceful people, those I moved amongst were not trouble makers, they just wanted a future for their children, which was very much under threat. There was also a much lesser degree of equality for these two separate branches of the one Abrahamic family. I found it difficult to come to terms with some of the customs, although most he didn't ask me to become a part of. Language was a problem, but most of our friends spoke English because they worked in the market with the tourist trade. He did however, somewhat subject me to the vetting of his friends, to see if I was a worthy "wife" to be. That was somewhat strange, but I passed. I did go to Arabic school in Sydney to learn Arabic (I'm hopeless at it) as did many of the Moselms in Sydney who come from places like Malaysia and Indonesia.

I did ask them once, (This is younger late teenage youths) why would I seek to become a Moslem, and they said because Allah, is always there with us. I asked can you feel the presence and was told "OH yes" so no difference to me than feeling my own minders right next to me. I was always treated with great respect and given the best that was possible to give me. The only time I had any problem, was in the village in the West Bank, when his youngest sister took me around and I got pelted (from a distance) by young boys, but his sister yelled out, stop, don't throw anything at her, she comes from Australia, NOT America. Mind you we had some similar treatment in Paris in a shop where the shop keepers thought we were American, but became more respectful, when told we were Australian.

I hope this is a small insight. and in the interest of that same thread http://jandeane81.com/threads/9354-F...#post841952393)

Let's dance Modwiz, I'm rather good at the Waltz.:dan::dan::dan::dan::dan::dan::dan::dan::dan ::dan::wiz:

I really want to thank you for this post. I do not want to come across as a Muslim apologist. My intent is to balance a very imbalanced equation, so to speak. Also, Catholics are not lumped together, except maybe in Ireland. Protestants aren't either, except maybe Ireland. The fact that a decent portion of Palestinians are Christian but, that isn't made clear either.

There are quite a few Christians in Syria but, same story. These omissions serve two purposes. It is territories that are wanted and since Muslims are the majority, why spoil good killings with inconvenient facts. They aren't Europeans anyway, who cares, right? Another very quiet part of it is the biggest of all the schisms in the West. The Roman versus the Eastern Orthodox churches. This one fact alone is why Russia is the perennial enemy of the West/Rome.

Almost every Christian in the Levant area is of some variety of Orthodox Christian. Poland's Russophobia has some historical basis in reality, although in a time warp and not current reality. The real secret fire of that enmity between two Slavic people's is that Poland is aligned with Rome and its church. Who sacked Constantinople, the seat of the Eastern Orthodox church and home of the Hagia Sophia? Thuggish knights , sent by Rome to reclaim Jerusalem. Not that they ever lived there. Funds were low and full transit to the "Holy Land" stranded them in Constantinople. The average knight was a psychopathic killer and in it for blood and booty. Treasure, that is. With things going nowhere, someone from Rome gave a wink and a nod and, they sacked the place. This was the beginning of the Great Schism which heretofore had been simply simmering bad blood.

It would take pages to further parse things out but, every little bit of understanding helps and this concludes tonight's installment.:tiphat:

Let me close with a picture of Hagia Sophia. Named after our Blessed Mother Sophia, reduced to a saint by a religion that has major woman issues. Well, one of them, lol.

http://static.sacred-destinations.com/img/955/gohistoric_38559_z.jpg

and one more:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Hagia_Sophia_Mars_2013.jpg/1024px-Hagia_Sophia_Mars_2013.jpg

Well, one more at night. She is beautiful.

http://static.sacred-destinations.com/img/855/gohistoric_38558_z.jpg

[modwiz]

Switching gears temporarily, we have the exposing of a politician. I know, it is shocking. Bernie Sanders is said to be ready to support Hillary. Biden said it, so that makes it suspect but, Bernie did say he would support his party's nominee.


However, Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs would not confirm or deny Biden’s claim.

“We are in the process of talking” with the Clinton campaign, he said, adding that the two candidates held a meeting in early June to talk about next steps.

Perhaps this is a stalling tactic and Bernie is hoping this skank get indicted. Hoping against hope?

http://presstv.ir/Detail/2016/06/30/472996/Sanders-Clinton-Biden

Here is a picture of Joe Biden trying to remember what he wanted to say.
http://217.218.67.233/photo/20160630/f6b56d6a-a331-4bc5-9f5e-9a220f8ceff2.jpg

[modwiz]

One way to avoid merging of posts is to move back and forth between threads so, I am posting here. I did find an article worthy of the thread though. Brought a smile to my face.

Iran removes chiefs of 4 banks over ‘unusually high salaries’


The chief executives of four of Iran’s major commercial banks have been sacked from their posts for receiving “unconventionally” high salaries.

Iranian media reported on Thursday that Minister of Economic Affairs and Finance Ali Tayebnia had removed the heads of Bank Mellat, Bank Saderat, Refah Bank and Mehr.

“At the request of the president to investigate the issue of salaries, the heads of Mehr Iran, Mellat, Refah and Saderat banks have been replaced on the orders of the economy minister for receiving unconventional salaries and loans,” IRNA said.

The reports said the head of another bank was also to be fired, but the decision has been delayed for “further review.”

The top bankers are accused of receiving large bonuses, interest-free loans and, in some cases, tax evasion.

http://presstv.ir/Detail/2016/07/01/473046/Iran-President-Rouhani--Ali-Tayebnia-Bank-Saderat-Mellat-Refah-Mehr

[Cearna]

Sounds like a pretty good lurk to me

[modwiz]

"I see Aragorn has been here. I must be getting close.
Aragorn!".
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Legolas600ppx.jpg

[Aragorn]

"I see Aragorn has been here. I must be getting close.
Aragorn!".
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Legolas600ppx.jpg

Yo! Anyone called me? :p

[modwiz]

Yo! Anyone called me? :p

"Lady Galadriel wants to thank you and the mods for your efforts."
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Legolas600ppx.jpg

"Thank you, Aragorn. And you, Elen, Amanda,
Colleen and Dreamtimer".
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/c/cb/Galadriel.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/220?cb=20151015204512

[Aragorn]

"Lady Galadriel wants to thank you for your efforts."
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Legolas600ppx.jpg

"Thank you, Aragorn".
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/c/cb/Galadriel.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/220?cb=20151015204512

Hmm... Now I can go and explain things to Arwen again, or she'll have me sleeping over at The Prancing Pony tonight... :scrhd:

:ha:

[modwiz]

Hmm... Now I can go and explain things to Arwen again, or she'll have me sleeping over at The Prancing Pony tonight... :scrhd:

:ha:

"Grandmother gets like that some times, my love. Celeborn is stuffy.
I am busy at the moment. See you in Rivendell where my appreciation
for your work here can be expressed"
http://tolkiengateway.net/w/images/thumb/9/9c/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_%28film_series%29_-_Arwen_3.jpg/800px-The_Lord_of_the_Rings_%28film_series%29_-_Arwen_3.jpg

[Aragorn]

"Grandmother gets like that some time, my love. Celeborn is stuffy.
I am busy at the moment. See you in Rivendell where my appreciation
for your work here can be expressed"
http://tolkiengateway.net/w/images/thumb/9/9c/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_%28film_series%29_-_Arwen_3.jpg/800px-The_Lord_of_the_Rings_%28film_series%29_-_Arwen_3.jpg

Okay, that sounds promising. :) Thank Illuvatar for such an understanding girlfriend, although the sword had me worried there for a moment! :priest:

:ha: :hilarious:

[Elen]

"Lady Galadriel wants to thank you and the mods for your efforts."
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Legolas600ppx.jpg

"Thank you, Aragorn. And you, Elen, Amanda, Modwiz,
Colleen and Dreamtimer".
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/c/cb/Galadriel.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/220?cb=20151015204512

Ooops, one of the fellowship was forgotten there....

[Aragorn]

https://i.imgflip.com/16qe1n.jpg

[modwiz]

" I am really that stuffy?
We can't all be like Elrond"
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/a/a9/Celeborn_-_FOTR.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/220?cb=20121002120216

[Elen]

" I am really that stuffy?
We can't all be like Elrond"
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/a/a9/Celeborn_-_FOTR.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/220?cb=20121002120216

Oh my, it must be the hair. :hilarious:

[modwiz]

Oh my, it must be the hair. :hilarious:

Nah, it's the constipated look.

[modwiz]

https://i.imgflip.com/16qe1n.jpg

Yes, I am a reliable friend in real life too. It all comes down to integrity of self.

[modwiz]

I went looking for stories worthy of looking at. After experiencing the camaraderie of ToT for the past few days, I found almost any news to be traumatizing and it impacted my spirit in a detrimental way. I only took a quick look and had to retreat back to the safety of The Shire.

http://tolkiengateway.net/w/images/thumb/8/81/Inger_Edelfeldt_-_A_Long_Expected_Party.jpg/250px-Inger_Edelfeldt_-_A_Long_Expected_Party.jpg

[modwiz]

Hmm, tent is very quiet from a member perspective.

[bsbray]

You got me thinking about camping with all of this tent talk.

http://lowres-picturecabinet.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/115/main/4/347339.jpg

I found this and thought it was interesting, though it's not as cool as it first sounds: Appalachian Druid Church (http://vacreeper.com/2015/01/appalachian-druid-church/)

[modwiz]

You got me thinking about camping with all of this tent talk.

http://lowres-picturecabinet.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/115/main/4/347339.jpg

I found this and thought it was interesting, though it's not as cool as it first sounds: Appalachian Druid Church (http://vacreeper.com/2015/01/appalachian-druid-church/)

There is an "eco-village" in Floyd and it is all about what is "hot". In their case, eco is for their personal economy. Prices are like staying in a decent hotel for a campsite. It is a couple known for their exploiting of being in Floyd and the kind of people looking to explore this area.

[Aragorn]

You got me thinking about camping with all of this tent talk.

http://lowres-picturecabinet.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/115/main/4/347339.jpg

I found this and thought it was interesting, though it's not as cool as it first sounds: Appalachian Druid Church (http://vacreeper.com/2015/01/appalachian-druid-church/)

The entrance to that tent is consistent with Hobbit architecture. The green visible through the aperture furthermore confirms my suspicion that this picture would have been taken in the Shire. ;)

[bsbray]

There is an "eco-village" in Floyd and it is all about what is "hot". In their case, eco is for their personal economy. Prices are like staying in a decent hotel for a campsite. It is a couple known for their exploiting of being in Floyd and the kind of people looking to explore this area.

There is a lot of this kind of thing around there and in Montgomery too. A good example is the Blacksburg farmer's market. All of these people from other states and foreign countries (university students and graduates) go there and buy their fruits and vegetables for ridiculous prices, higher than the grocery store. The local farmer's market where I'm at only has one guy who shows up once a week but everything he sells is great quality and cheap as hell. He's an old farmer and he says "If it ain't good I don't mess with it." But if you're not a local or get off the beaten path once in a while in these backwoods communities then you wouldn't see that stuff. There seems to be a whole industry in these kinds of places built around catering to people who aren't from the area.

[modwiz]

"Precious. They might do it.
The Hobbits are reaching 100k".
http://www.theargonath.cc/characters/gollum/pictures/grotkt3.jpg

[modwiz]

"Radagast, are we still peeing outside?"
http://www.theargonath.cc/characters/gandalf/pictures/gfotrdeparture5.jpg

[modwiz]

"No need for your Elf eyes, Legolas.
Our goal is clearly in sight."
http://www.theargonath.cc/characters/gandalf/pictures/gfotrringsouth2.jpg

[modwiz]

For those who cannot see the members only flurry of activity going on. I will explain later. This is an interesting outing of a particularly psychotic person. General Breedlove, former NATO commander.

Leaked: Gen. Breedlove plotted US conflict with Russia


Leaked private emails show that retired US General Philip Breedlove, until recently NATO’s supreme allied commander, plotted against the White House to escalate military tensions with Russia over the conflict in Ukraine.

In a series of messages in 2014, Breedlove reached out to several influential insiders for advice on how to pressure President Barack Obama to take a more aggressive approach toward Russia, according to emails from the general’s Gmail account, posted on DC Leaks.

http://presstv.ir/Detail/2016/07/02/473189/Breedlove-Russia-conflict-Ukraine-

[modwiz]

A little classic Gimli for comic relief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVD1RLX_Yuo

[bsbray]

That's a good article but it may misdirect anger, since NATO is now under a new commander and this guy is not playing nice with the CIA, who also wanted to escalate tensions in Ukraine. In other words there has been a change of leader and apparent policy in NATO since the time period mentioned in the article above. The Pentagon and CIA are now backing opposing factions in Syria and the situation in Ukraine has been allowed to settle down (at least as far as I know).

[modwiz]

That's a good article but it may misdirect anger, since NATO is now under a new commander and this guy is not playing nice with the CIA, who also wanted to escalate tensions in Ukraine. In other words there has been a change of leader and apparent policy in NATO since the time period mentioned in the article above. The Pentagon and CIA are now backing opposing factions in Syria and the situation in Ukraine has been allowed to settle down (at least as far as I know).

I read something last night about a buildup for offensive around the Donbass, so the situation described by you may be flipped. Edogan wants some form of respect back. Being the world's assclown was working out well for him. He'd rather Obama paly that part and he plays it soo well.

[modwiz]

A breif explanation for some lack of continuity in this thread, especially last night. We had a thread that was not visible to the public going that focused on getting our post count up to 100k. We had a handful or more members working feverishly to get it done by a set time. It was great fun and brought a great sense of teamwork and unity that had never cohered quite in the way we did before this endeavor.

We have a feature on our forum that posts that occur shortly after each other are merged into one post. So two posts would be counted as one if they were too close together in time. So, we used multiple threads to get around this feature. This thread was one of those "relief" thread so any sense of continuity with the normal ambling of this thread was slightly interrupted.

We did achieve our goal and more. Once I get my wind back from that output this thread will return to the usual musings and conversations.

Obviously, this post was for the viewers who are not members and could not see the other thread and how it was all tied together.

[modwiz]

I have enjoyed this Islamic scholar for some time. Morris108 is a friend of his and occasionally interviews him. He has broken a long interview into bites based on the topic discussed. Here the Sheik discusses the Saudi-Iran proxy wars and what is the underlying strategy and perils of it. He is an intelligent man and worth spending some time with, IMO.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN7jh_MaHWM

[Elen]

I have enjoyed this Islamic scholar for some time. Morris108 is a friend of his and occasionally interviews him. He has broken a long interview into bites based on the topic discussed. Here the Sheik discusses the Saudi-Iran proxy wars and what is the underlying strategy and perils of it. He is an intelligent man and worth spending some time with, IMO.

It is wise to look further into Islam without preconceived ideas...:)

[modwiz]

It is wise to look further into Islam without preconceived ideas...:)

Especially the Sufis. They are coming from their hearts without deviating from The Koran. What they extract from it is really quite beautiful. In the video above he states clearly that the Saudi royal family is not Muslim. They are the keepers of the satanic Wahhabi sect that has the madrasas that teach their twisted form of Islam and are the basis of Islamic movements like the Taliban. All of the jihadis are from this mindset.

With their money they, the Saudis, open them, madrasas, all over the world in Islamic countries and have acted like a cancer. They exploit the often poor administrations of Islamic countries like Pakistan. The warlike Afghani tribes are just primitive for the most part and the Madras acts as a nexus with their funding in a dysfunctional country. Iran only has small groups of ineffective ignorant men joining them. Syria resisted the problem well enough that they had to be imported. That is why Russia is allowing for legitimate Syrians with grievances to have a seat at peace talks but, they exclude the jihadis. The West is always trying to sneak the latter into the talks. Without funding from Western aligned countries, and the West itself, this plague would go away as a movement of consequence.

[modwiz]

Even a subject like Koranic eschatology is interesting with this man. He is also well versed in Christian and Judaic scripture.


Eschatology /ˌɛskəˈtɒlədʒi/ is a part of theology concerned with the final events of history, or the ultimate destiny of humanity. This concept is commonly referred to as the "end of the world" or "end time".

This was uploaded June 6 of this year. As they are give him his microphone to begin the video, he is caught speaking to someone and he says "So, you don't shove religion down anybody's throat. You don't force anyone into submission to the truth. That, is a lot of rubbish." LOL. Great opening lines. He believes the Koran contains the truth so, his opening lines are key to understanding his heart.

To help understand the beginning of this video. The Sheikh is using the name Iblis and is referring to his refusal to bow down to Adam. This being is also called Shaitan, and gets conflated with Satan. However, Ibliss is a Jinn. The Koran has a complete Sura/chapter, on the Jinn. I think Islam gets the Jinn confused a little bit but, it still has relevance. Zoroaster called them Daevas and spoke of two kinds. Designated as neither good or evil but, separated in those who gave good counsel and those who gave bad counsel. He advised ignoring the bad counsel without making them evil.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_dmv6CK3ts

[Joanna]

One of my favourite Sufi quotes:

"Even after all this time, the Sun never says to the Earth, 'You owe me.'
Look what happens with a love like that,
It lights the whole sky."

~ Hafiz

[modwiz]

The videos above are for more about the world situation from this wise man. I cannot recommend them enough. He speaks wisdom and they are not lectures about Islam. He is quite a character and a natural speaker.

[Dreamtimer]

I really appreciate you sharing these , Modwiz. People are so disjointed with their knowledge. It'll be good to have some more useful info to hopefully share.

[modwiz]

I will post this article mainly for the picture as the article is not so informative and is by Gordon Duff.

https://img.rt.com/files/2016.07/original/5777938dc361886a308b458f.jpg

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07/03/spooky-clouds-over-cern-spark-portal-to-other-dimensions-theory/

[modwiz]

Well, Iceland is really showing the way forward on a number of fronts. Yay Vikings.

Populations are torpid and do not speak their resentment to the goobermints. This results in goobermints pursuing policies that some or many of the population may not support. If the protest does not come from within then outside voices are welcome, IMO. My joy with Iceland's move is not without regret for decent Israeli's who might suffer because of this.

Icelanders vote to join boycott on Israeli goods


Iceland’s capital has announced that it will boycott all Israeli products until Palestine is freed from occupation.

On Sunday, Reykjavik’s municipality voted for the boycott, and promised to continue the embargo “as long as the occupation of Palestinian territories continues.”

The vote is part of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement against Tel Aviv, which was initiated in 2005 by over 170 Palestinian organizations that were pushing for “various forms of boycott against Israel until it meets its obligations under international law.”

http://presstv.ir/Detail/2016/07/03/473471/iceland-israeli-palestine-bds

[modwiz]

Let us start with this quote:


“No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.” — Samuel Adams, American Founding Father

I put this here to make a point. This quote is before, fluoride, chemtrails, dumbed down schools and whatever excuses people make for the friends, family and neighbors not being more engaged. Ben Franklin's quote about the American people being given a republic, if they can keep it, all points to people being their own worst enemies. Debauched in their Manners particularly pertains today, as it did over 200 years ago. Even in the Symposium I host twice weekly the familiar refrain, in defense of friends and family, is schools, fluoride and chemtrails. And of course, the media. The internet, and almost universal usage of it, allows any interested party to stay ahead of the lies. It is lack of interest that plays the biggest part in ignorance.

Protecting our friends and family is an instinctive response and is admirable if it actually protects someone. When it enables, and by that enabling, places the collective in greater peril from lack of situational awareness, that admirable trait doesn't look very good. Educating ourselves enough to conduct remedial action and/or preparations becomes paramount.

I am new to my town but, I am learning who the movers and shakers are so that a meaningful discussion, based on solutions and new thinking, can begin. I am already making inroads and it remains to be seen if allies can be found. A handful a good friends with knowledge if who might help has become a humble beginning.

Needed to get that off my chest.

This article may be worth the time.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07/03/are-you-willing-to-become-a-nwo-global-citizen/

Some of it.


Now for the good news. Lately the Cabal has stumbled with Brexit and with the creation of BRICS, the AIIB, the SCO. The SCO is the new Shanghai Cooperation Agreement with China, Russia, and now Pakistan and India, previous long term enemies brought together at the time of the Brexit vote by a common rejection of the Cabal’s private central FIAT Banking system which they expect to fail. And there are numerous new trade deals between many nations that are not based on the use of the now doomed US Petro Dollar. All these nations involved in these new banking and trade systems without the US Petro Dollar are now forming a strong financial firewall against private Fiat western central banking.

A significant portion of the nations of the World are now hip to what the Cabal is and how it is empowered by the private central banking system which has been their main financial parasite. These nations have reacted and responded by forming their own private trade arrangements and alternative banking systems.

If Americans continue to wake up in mass as has started, thanks to the deep penetration of the Internet’s Alternative Media, this will add to the pressure now being exerted by the rest of the world on the Cabal. Such pressure can actually break the control systems of the Cabal not only at the alphabet agency level but at the street level too.

[modwiz]

Back when this tent was erected, it quickly became a hang out thread. Conversations were ongoing. Times change and the tent has become a monologue. So it is time to try to create a topic that will stir people in a way that will lead to conversation or debate. I will have to proceed with thought and care if it is to succeed. First a Middle Earth moment.

The Istari were sent to Middle Earth not for the Elves but, for Men. (Gender neutral)

Thoughts toward a topic are percolating and some cooling and settling would be wise before laying the those thoughts out.

When one embraces Sophia as their Sovereign deity one embarks upon a path of gnosis. A knowing based on thoughts entertained that seek deep understanding that pertain to the Anthropos, or Earth Human, and its development. We are on a cusp of great potential, a latency within our genome, in the physical sense. It lays within our morphogenetic field and is available at any time, yet that availability must have a resonance to be activated within our bodies. It has to do with proper alignment of subtle bodies and therefore our chakras, and understanding what they signify and work together to create a coherent phase conjugation, are a key to this.

Think of phase conjugation as the notes in a chord. One can play all kinds of notes on a piano without phase conjugation. The simplest chords have three notes and three note chords are not sufficient to resonate with our potential. A three note chord is phase conjugant, just insufficiently so. However three notes is a good start and even the basis for building a richer superimposed chord. Coordination of the first three chakras is like that base that needs to exist. Knowing the how consciousness of the first three coordinate within our bodies and psyches cannot be overestimated. Getting that basic simple construct into proper harmonic "tuning" will balance the emotions with the mind well enough to build upon. Chaos must be assembled into coherence.

Now, the heart, and its consciousness, is where gnosis arises/comes into us. This knowing will assist in providing the understanding required to bring the lower three chakras into harmony with the heart and thereby with themselves. I am aware of the psy-op about the chakras being bad or an insertion. The motive behind such a meme is obvious to me. It removes the crucial tool we have, even require, to move to our next phase of being. Like flat earthers who feel wise for for embracing their "new enlightenment", I have seen, through videos and posts read, people who seem to feel removal of chakras, if possible, was worth their while. Even if just to try it for comparison. They are experimenting. Flat earthers would be fine with me if it were not for the urgency and sense of superiority that seems to exude from them in written word comments and videos. That is my issue with it, the attitude that creates a division.

With regard to aligning our subtle bodies, it can be done on a round or flat Earth. Love and music and be made on either shape as well. Although I believe the Earth is round, for my own reasons, I do not insist on it for the aforementioned reasons. What is truly important in life can be pursued on either shape.

I will conclude this post here. It is a bit of a preamble. There is more cooking. I have some things to share about men and women that need very careful consideration before posting them. This is not meant to be a discourse on subtle bodies.

[Elen]

Flat earthers would be fine with me if it were not for the urgency and sense of superiority that seems to exude from them in written word comments and videos. That is my issue with it, the attitude that creates a division.

With regard to aligning our subtle bodies, it can be done on a round or flat Earth. Love and music and be made on either shape as well. Although I believe the Earth is round, for my own reasons, I do not insist on it for the aforementioned reasons. What is truly important in life can be pursued on either shape.

Well said modwiz, it doesn't matter what shape of the Earth people have in their minds, as long as we reach our human potential despite of it. I like that, you are building bridges for the world. :thup:

[Cearna]

Can I come in on an entirely different tack to the same question that you are in a way positing. When I began, I had in fact as a child locked away all of my gifts and talents as a child, because I felt I was very much under threat from darkness very close to me, separate from the anger and hostility shown by my mother. I had actually, put a padlock on every talent, and his them within my body, then hid the keys elsewhere. When Ivan arrived he had little to no chance in helping me much, except that Reiki had released in me the ability to use ESP to hear what he had to tell me. Over a very concentrated short time, I had to spend effort to release each individual talent from their hiding place and then had to release it's appropriate key to him so that he could unlock each padlock and put everything back where it ought to be.

Now I will go back a little before this, I went one day to have my very first re-birth, during which my third eye opened up, I had no idea what that was, it had happened before under hypnosis. Two weeks later, I suddenly realised, it was OK, I didn't have to die any more, but I was not going to live my life any more the way I had until then. At that moment, I decided that, I had no idea what kind of a life I wanted to live, so I opened myself to the possibility that I was not going to ever limit myself in the pursuit if finding what I could be and do if I just let it happen. From that, apparently, I opened Pandora's Box, for I was suddenly granted a new Soul Pathway, from Above, because, I was allowing any and every possibility to come into my life

These two things to me are the lynch pin to being able to do what you have just begun to describe. These two things are opening yourself to all that is and allowing it it to happen including the possibility of failures and hardship and hurting and feeling the gammut of all which includes what you have just mentioned, the real Beyond what most think is beyond them to achieve or contemplate including all knowing of that which maybe only you, yourself wishes to find. the second part is having faith and trust to continue going, no matter what, that if you allow faith in yourself and whatever comes, adversity or not then the flow of life comes to you and through you - hence your words above.

I began to also have faith that each person was their own miracle, and so I ran a couple of workshops, which was all I could fit into my life at a time, to allow the participants, find out that if, they too, open themselves to the possibility that they can and will be able to do all sorts of things they had never seen the possibility of in themselves, that they actually could do it. We included, drawing with pastels, or crayons (to save time), writing and various methods of healing which they did not know, but allowed to flow through themselves. No one was unable to do any of these things when in the safety of the environment we offered.

Ivan's belief was sufficient for me to simply "know" that if I needed to do something, all I had to do was stand on my own two feet, and allow myself (my hands, my mind my words, etc) flow, and suddenly I could use my crystals or energies or begin to chant in words I still don't know what I say, or anything. I call it my "automatic Pilot" that which I came with, my inner knowing, which would guide me into what was needed at the time. It never lets me down. When one of the Gods asked me how far up into he beyond, do you think you can go, I didn't know. I had already gone higher than that God had ever gone. So I shrugged my shoulders, said lets find out, grabbed Ivan to hold onto, grabbed the Goddess of Light to guide us with her Light, and of we went using my Mars as the guiding energy to propel me. I went to places, no one from Earth had ever been to before -in fact the Goddess of Light had never been there before. This is not imagination, no ego on my part, we went through layer after layer of the Beyond. I'm not stupid, or in lash lah land of the pretty lights, these things are possible. I simply say for most things I am now doing this and I do. In, the case of you you are speaking in #4077, if I wish to do what you are speaking of I simply say, I am now doing this, and I do, I am lucky, yes, I am a volunteer from Above to do service here, as are you I know, and we are allowed to have the use of what we have fully available to us. But those who came to me for this experience, could all do it too. It's there, and it is tangible and achievable for those who are open and allow the impossible to be possible. Love to you Rad, go explain it, I just do it, but you have the words to explain.

[Aianawa]

Struts into thread, vid blows sparks in head here and there, will return when functioning returns, holding head- limps away-swaying

ps TA

[Elen]

Struts into thread, vid blows sparks in head here and there, will return when functioning returns, holding head- limps away-swaying

ps TA

I'll translate from NZ modwiz, he is blown away with it all! And PS: Thanks.

[modwiz]

C
Ivan's belief was sufficient for me to simply "know" that if I needed to do something, all I had to do was stand on my own two feet, and allow myself (my hands, my mind my words, etc) flow, and suddenly I could use my crystals or energies or begin to chant in words I still don't know what I say, or anything.

Dan Winter had some interesting things to say about "talking in tongues" when it is genuine and not contrived to not fit in with a group, as happens with Pentecostal groups. Although I do not rule out genuine occurrences there.

The Angelic or Ophanic language is real and is what the genuine unknown language usually represents. A communication from formative forces. Dan had a relationship with now deceased Vincent Bridges who has managed to see a real language with syntax and grammar that goes with the Enochian alphabet. Ophanic-Enochian might be more correct as Enoch was delivering the Ophanic alphabet. Used in powerful ceremonial magic because it can call and speak to these angels who correspond with elemental forces. Forces that were part of Creation before humankind.

Vincent had a woman he was working with before he died named Theresa Burns and Dan might be able to bring her to a Mystic View for us to speak with her. I have been doing my research to be able to engage her intelligently and optimize what information can be delivered in a show. That would be a good combination of things of interest coupled with information of practical utility. The last thing we need is more "out there" info that does not allow us to ground it to serve the collective.

[modwiz]

After reading some posts on a new thread at House of The Hat regarding footage of Arcturian "ships" someone mentioned experiments being done on us. Conducted is probably a more accurate word. A nuance yes but, one that might allow for the choice we have in it. Like the Republic given to Americans was an experiment, the results were up to the people. Lack of awareness that almost situation will yield behavioral data is to the detriment of humanity. What makes the elite what they are is they observe and utilize the data. Anyone can look at the data by simply observing. It is in our faces. We could become our own elite today, or tomorrow, if we would simply observe ourselves as a collective instead of just individuals. The elite see themselves as a collective and form coordination, resulting in them having control. It is our lack of coordination that permits our vast numbers from giving us that control. Control over our lives, which begins with control over ourselves. This is our task and as long as it remains unattended to things will continue to go poorly for us. This post speaks to the call of the controllers who are the current elite to "circle their wagons". http://jandeane81.com/threads/9583-Modwiz-Musings-Topical-Discussion?p=841953491&viewfull=1#post841953491
Most of us will probably continue to surf the web in search of content that interests us.

So, one data stream the elite perceive is growing discontent with their poor performance, which is anything but elite performance, IMO. The call is to discount our voices as nothing but the howls of rabble.

Socrates said, wisely, that a pile of building materials is no more a house than an unorganized rabble of protesters is an army. It all comes down to strategy and coordination. Thinking of ourselves as a group instead of individuals with an opinion and that an uninformed opinion counts as much as an informed one. We will fight amongst ourselves over who is really informed from a point of ego, rather than from observation of performance. That is, considering behavioral data and who exhibits the ability to coordinate with sound thinking. That usually means logic and not pandering to emotional issues. A reasonable person will take emotions into the equation but, not make decisions from that place.

I cannot emphasize enough, that the controllers will exploit us if we do not find common purpose. This will mean leaving lower egoic functions at the discussion door. Who is to decide? It is more a question of what will decide. Organization will decide. A few organized people will easily manipulate masses of unorganized groups. Within the word organization is the word organism. An organism has the ability to mount a defense and that ability equates to its viability. If an organism cannot adapt and survive in its environment, it will be doomed to extinction.

Some things to ponder.

[modwiz]

This tent needs some fun and celebration. Just for the energy of it. Thanks to Aragorn for providing the source picture.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-36128-hobbit-fireworks-gif-true-gif-k9ti.gif

[Cearna]

Dan Winter had some interesting things to say about "talking in tongues" when it is genuine and not contrived to not fit in with a group, as happens with Pentecostal groups. Although I do not rule out genuine occurrences there.

The Angelic or Ophanic language is real and is what the genuine unknown language usually represents. A communication from formative forces. Dan had a relationship with now deceased Vincent Bridges who has managed to see a real language with syntax and grammar that goes with the Enochian alphabet. Ophanic-Enochian might be more correct as Enoch was delivering the Ophanic alphabet. Used in powerful ceremonial magic because it can call and speak to these angels who correspond with elemental forces. Forces that were part of Creation before humankind.

Vincent had a woman he was working with before he died named Theresa Burns and Dan might be able to bring her to a Mystic View for us to speak with her. I have been doing my research to be able to engage her intelligently and optimize what information can be delivered in a show. That would be a good combination of things of interest coupled with information of practical utility. The last thing we need is more "out there" info that does not allow us to ground it to serve the collective.

I don't believe I speak in this language, it depends upon the guests who come on in, but I believe they may already be lined up waiting to come in on cue. The languages change, sometimes a mix within the words and sounds, some use their own words to enrich the head space of the person, being given the working Light, some of them speak in near beginners, sorts of words.

Many times, there is a combination of sounds required to do a healing, and many great people like Geronimo and Qwan Yin, aboriginal tribal shamans and Native Americans using their own words to bring forth specific tones to from very high contralto to deep bass, in rich sequences to bring forth the best of healing to the recipient.

In one weekend over the Triple Firesign conjunction period, I began at the very earliest of civilisations , working in sequence through all Ancient races of advancement, going through to those in modern times. With every civilisation, the languages changed, sometimes female, sometimes more male, and my body language changed, with hand and body movement symbolic of each of the civilisations. some it was easy to tell how close I was because the fingers were so similar to the modern day, native dance movements. One that amused me greatly was actually Greece, because instead of the movements with others, I was making geometrical shapes. Modern day Russia I made the fist similar to the signs on many flags and huge amount of force put behind each movement, mbut the US fist though similar was far more brutal and emphatic in its nature than the Russian one.

At times I was translating it into English in my mind at the same time as I was speaking it, and at one stage a girl who came in to watch me work, began to translate it out loud to the rest of us, and I knew she was translating correctly, because I was hearing that translation in my mind. She just got up and walked away and I went on working. I was healing the ancient emotions and present day emotions embedded in the soil of Earth at the time, using the energy of the meditations being given out by the peoples all over the world, participating in this incredible day. Maybe you were doing something that weekend Modwiz? I have asked a few people if they could translate for me, so far I know of Ancient Aramaic, Thai , Chinese, Australian Aboriginal, native American, Hebrew, Japanese, Latin, goodness knows what else, and I personally cannot speak any language except English.

[Cearna]

Modwiz, would you be interested in what I witnessed in my climb up into the Higher levels of Beyond.

In the last few months, from the beginning of this year, i've been able to realise that there are four direction of Beyond from here. Putting OZ as my starting point, we first went straight up as you could imagine, later as developments in my introduction to others from "out there" we realised there was a Beyond out to my left, and for reasons of our in the work we were doing, I had to go down "Below here as well and in trying to kill off some really bad nasties we had to go out to our right.

During last year it was gradually shown to me, that we are inside a sphere, huge in size, with a central core and the rest divided into four quadrants, which we call the four sides. The first side, has now fully completed all that it was ever to do and has closed off from the rest, all in it are females. If you think of the entire sphere in the way you would slice an apple into quarters, we are in the core,or the central core of this apple, with more or less access directly through from below up through the centre, from the below Source are through this universe and then up to an area Above to a region layer upon layer of Realms filtering Life force through up to a certain level and they look after this sphere. Above that is more Beyond but they look over what they call the Totality. Out to our right quite a long way away from here is another sphere, almost identical to this one except our mirror image, with the same set up.

Coming back to our Sphere, the second side is to the right of the first side. It has 51 Universes within it, with a set up that I wrote of in a channneling on TOT, only when I wrote that, they thought this Universe was their 52 Universe, but it is not it is a stand alone within this central core area. The second side has both male and females, and because of huge incursions of Demons within that side chaos took place and that side has now to be closed down as well. The third side began being set up last year, in the third quarter of our apple and will have only female inhabitants as well , but will be more advanced than in the first two sides.

Does this reach any one, who would like to know more?

[Elen]

Does this reach any one, who would like to know more?

Keep on talking, I'm listening my friend.

[Dreamtimer]

Keep on talking, I'm listening my friend.

Me too.

[PurpleLama]

http://www.airstreamfacilities.com/sites/default/files/styles/630x300_scale_crop/public/wizardshat_night_ext-1.jpg?itok=kCiP9v6B

[modwiz]

http://www.airstreamfacilities.com/sites/default/files/styles/630x300_scale_crop/public/wizardshat_night_ext-1.jpg?itok=kCiP9v6B

Thank you, PL. That helps with some atmosphere. Glad to have you around.

[modwiz]

Modwiz, would you be interested in what I witnessed in my climb up into the Higher levels of Beyond.

In the last few months, from the beginning of this year, i've been able to realise that there are four direction of Beyond from here. Putting OZ as my starting point, we first went straight up as you could imagine, later as developments in my introduction to others from "out there" we realised there was a Beyond out to my left, and for reasons of our in the work we were doing, I had to go down "Below here as well and in trying to kill off some really bad nasties we had to go out to our right.

During last year it was gradually shown to me, that we are inside a sphere, huge in size, with a central core and the rest divided into four quadrants, which we call the four sides. The first side, has now fully completed all that it was ever to do and has closed off from the rest, all in it are females. If you think of the entire sphere in the way you would slice an apple into quarters, we are in the core,or the central core of this apple, with more or less access directly through from below up through the centre, from the below Source are through this universe and then up to an area Above to a region layer upon layer of Realms filtering Life force through up to a certain level and they look after this sphere. Above that is more Beyond but they look over what they call the Totality. Out to our right quite a long way away from here is another sphere, almost identical to this one except our mirror image, with the same set up.

Coming back to our Sphere, the second side is to the right of the first side. It has 51 Universes within it, with a set up that I wrote of in a channneling on TOT, only when I wrote that, they thought this Universe was their 52 Universe, but it is not it is a stand alone within this central core area. The second side has both male and females, and because of huge incursions of Demons within that side chaos took place and that side has now to be closed down as well. The third side began being set up last year, in the third quarter of our apple and will have only female inhabitants as well , but will be more advanced than in the first two sides.

Does this reach any one, who would like to know more?

Please continue. Sometimes in your posts there is one part of it that specifically speaks to me and that is enough. In this post it was the quadrant where on females were. Part of the deeper back story that has the Annunaki and Draco come in later deals with a female only "race" of beings called the Kadishtu or Qadishtu, meaning Life Designer(s). They were on Earth or Uras, in a related language of theirs, very much earlier before others followed, and then others followed and we get what Sitchen wrote what he did about it. The Kadoshtu created a race here that far outperformed their expectations. In fact it turned out greater than themselves in many ways. It would appear they did not know they would get help on Earth from Sophia being here. They did not know abour Her.

[modwiz]

Hmm, Lord of the Ants? I have so far watched the preview which I will post here. I like social insects because of their organizational skills. I think the social insects have lessons from Nature for us. At under four minutes, it is a good primer for the full documentary that I have not watched yet. I am always wary of how anything from the media presnts Nature as there is an underlying hate for Nature, or at least fear, in the words often used in the narration. Even from PBS, which is now corporate fed. Nature gives us what we need for free, only our labor is required. Privatization of Nature is the corporate way and Nature as given to us by the Creator and Nature Herself is anathema to goobermints, which are corporations masking themselves as something else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKl8Luuotw

[Aragorn]

Privatization of Nature is the corporate way and Nature as given to us by the Creator and Nature Herself is anathema to goobermints, which are corporations masking themselves as something else.

Up until now, they have, and in relation to the US presidential elections, that is still the case. However, with the TTIP, TPP and their ilk, the korporayshuns no longer have to fake it. Those treaties effectively put them in charge, and even allow them to appoint their own judges.

[modwiz]

Up until now, they have, and in relation to the US presidential elections, that is still the case. However, with the TTIP, TPP and their ilk, the korporayshuns no longer have to fake it. Those treaties effectively put them in charge, and even allow them to appoint their own judges.

Might work in our favor that they think they no longer need to fake it because it may lead to them not "making it". Hubris can be our friend.

[Cearna]

Please continue. Sometimes in your posts there is one part of it that specifically speaks to me and that is enough. In this post it was the quadrant where on females were. Part of the deeper back story that has the Annunaki and Draco come in later deals with a female only "race" of beings called the Kadishtu or Qadishtu, meaning Life Designer(s). They were on Earth or Uras, in a related language of theirs, very much earlier before others followed, and then others followed and we get what Sitchen wrote what he did about it. The Kadoshtu created a race here that far outperformed their expectations. In fact it turned out greater than themselves in many ways. It would appear they did not know they would get help on Earth from Sophia being here. They did not know about Her.



If I answer this, then, it will come from my own memories, not from any other Being telling you how it is. To accept this, is going to take an act of faith on my part and on yours, that what I tell, is from my own personal memory and that I know, I am whom I tell you I am. This opens me to a whole amount of ridicule since I am challenged over and over again, on the authenticity of what I say, as being the Truth, not just as I know it to be, but as it is.

A lot that I say also must come as an adjunct to the things I have already placed on TOT, as channelled messages. Some of the latest ones, are from the God who actually brought, this rock here. Some of what I say, is as a result of the 20 Source Gods having spoken to me, some comes from Ivan, who at the time, I thought it was his own knowledge, he was giving me, but apparently when he told me the information, he was taking it from my own stored memories. Some I have channelled from the person here in the body at the time. But it is there now, on the Forum,though goodness knows where bsbray has put it though out different forums now – it’s been spread all over the place. What I will do now is to open, my own memory, to this particular period of time, and just let it flow, what comes, may or may not bear any relationship to recorded history.

I come from outside of this Sphere, I am Karima, who is the being from this entire Realm in which you are now. My Realm is of a blue violet colour, and I bring Life and Light, to all that is situated within my Realm, which includes this entire Sphere, though I function only through this core of the Sphere, leaving other Gods to look after all of the four quadrants. Within this core, I am the pre-eminent being, who in the end analysis, has the right over life and death, and to whom I allow entry.

The first Beings as a race to be allowed in this core area, were the race of Elves, and later associated ones I call the little people. When the Being arrived here with his huge rock, he unwittingly placed it over the actual “Kingdom” of the Elven ones, displacing them to some degree. These were my first “children”. The Source Gods come from below, and outside of this Sphere. The being who arrived here, had made himself a female companion for his journey, and after a short time, I decided to let them live here, so , I gave them a girl child, tiny, a baby, who just simply arrived in the females arms, I was that baby. I had given myself the body that you recognise as the human body to-day. I grew, but needed company to play with, so a sort of a dog , was made, to be my companion, she is with me to-day in a body.

The Source Gods then created the soil, the trees, the water, to atmosphere, and so on, all for my pleasure, so they could in fact play with me as well. Mother Earth came later – she is a free Spirit, who adopted Earth as her home. She and one of the Source Gods produced a child, (written about elsewhere) and it is that one, produced the evolutionary animals , still on Earth. As I grew older, there was a need for a companion and so, a male just arrived who was to become my Soul Mate, for he was made simply by separating my Soul and Spirit into two beings instead of one. Later another one, a female was split from my being and became your Sophia. It is this Sophia, and that Male who became your Creator ones. They only ever create females -these carry the inner beingness of all that is, the Helix, from them can come any number of beings, male or female, the newest ones being created this year, and they are coming as pairs Soul linked together, each separate as male or female, but join one another at birth to then journey together as a pair, not, a singles who will come together towards the end of their journey.

The very first side was begun as each of the three sides has now begun, by sending, originating Gods, to Create and thus tend to their own as they feel the need to do so. I have nothing to do with each side, except to originate the Life force to them. The first beings created by Sophia and her Mate, were 300 females. In the very first of these, I decided to involve my own Soul Link, to later become her completely, as an expression of my own to remain here as the overwhelming mind, of the entire collective. These 300 originating females are the driving force, injected into the collective, at important time in the evolution of life on Earth. So Elen, your survivors of Atlantis have been or still are on Earth in an incarnation now. In this current lifetime, Colleen, is whom I decided to invite myself into, when she was born, and she then, is the current first of those 300 back in life again.

Now at long last the story of these females, they were there before the first side began to be inhabited. There were already other enriched types of Helix, working in other areas of totality, but this one was begun by that one Being who decided to follow the Pathways of life out there in the Totality. It seems just natural to suggest living in this Reality, towards finding what you are calling Truth or what I call totality of Beingness. The 300 would go to a place on the Earth and set up Hypothetical scenarios, that could just form a part of a real life on this particular planet, such as government, forms of creative expression, different abodes, means of carrying out a Pathway under different spiritual circumstances and all sorts of other ideas that as yet have not come into this way of life. They would give each idea a reasonable time of about 300 years for each, to see how, over, time it could develop, or break down from flaws in the idealism. The Annunaki would not know of these women at all except from some hearsay evidence found , left from the past. The name you use pertains to these women mostly. None of those civilisations were meant to continue, just to have as a guideline for future time.

The one of course that the Annunaki did know of was the Atlanteans. This began purely for and by these 300 females, all exceptionally talented and by now highly organised at working together. All of them were female, no males began in Atlantis, but remember, that their time spanned the entire length of the Reptilian growth on Earth (dinosaurs). I was their leader, my name was Idryss, and it was through me that most forms of new learning came.

This was a heirearchial society with three controllers, then something like nine healers, then Spiritual advisers, close on nine again, then governing body, size fluctuating, then some others who innovated, by connecting to the Creative Corps in the Above. Socially all it took was like minded ones, wanting to carve a total life for us all. We had no reason to need a body, or to eat or drink, we arrived as a Spirit, and then according to our own ideas of how to live we just surrounded ourselves with a form didn’t matter how many appendages, just as we felt the need. We lived entirely by the close association, to our own Spirit who was not ourselves, but was the original one created and they were situated on a level in the Above, which I now call the Fire and Ice level, so it is those two elements we use in creating that which is needed.

There was no need for a warrior race amongst us, but we had in place a set of rules which I have been calling the Universal Laws for this Universe and we had some who interpreted those laws if required , and some who adjudicated the use if a person stepped out of those bounds.

All went well for a very long time, and I mean a very long time, because by this time, the Second side had begun, and was sufficiently old enough for some of those from just one of their Universes, to break through the walls of their Universe, by propelling rocks on which they more or less used as a vehicle, and they trailed rock with them, which they hurled at the walls of the core surroundings, till there was a hole large enough to come through – they found Earth. These were a Reptilian Species and later more of different species within that genus, decided to use the same tactics. They came and settled nearby, Atlantis -they were all Males, and were being made to conform to the laws of Atlantis, which they did not appreciate. They had brought with them, a species that we now call Demons and D jinn and they used magic, to cause the downfall of Atlantis.

As a seer, I knew this was to come, and I sent these 300 to different places throughout Earth for safety with specific tasks to carry out. Later we all came together in the region now called the Amazon, and since most of us were healers, we spent at least 300 years, in the fullness of studying as many healing methods as possible to be used in the future. Because of our experience in Atlantis we also cultivated a warrior code and practice built mainly from the knowledge of other lifestyles from outside of our Sphere entirely, ones you might call the Jedi way now, and I had learnt from having spent some time in one of those places so we more or less began our own Martial Arts/Jedi moves then.

Sorry long story already, so, I have only briefly covered whom we were then. Hope you like the ideas.

[Fred Steeves]

We could become our own elite today, or tomorrow, if we would simply observe ourselves as a collective instead of just individuals.

Is that really what we want? Would we wind up any better than the elite currently in place? If I had to speculate based on what I see overall in alternative media and forum world, it doesn't look too terribly promising. This includes my own back yard lest I come off as sounding elite myself...


Control over our lives, which begins with control over ourselves.

This, IMO, is the most vital task at hand by far. No mastery of self, no mastery of anything else. As above so below, as within so without.


Socrates said, wisely, that a pile of building materials is no more a house than an unorganized rabble of protesters is an army.

Yessir, as a building contractor I can attest to that one first hand. Without knowledge and discipline, that pile remains a pile.


Cheers

[modwiz]

Is that really what we want? Would we wind up any better than the elite currently in place? If I had to speculate based on what I see overall in alternative media and forum world, it doesn't look too terribly promising. This includes my own back yard lest I come off as sounding elite myself...

Cheers

I do not mean elite like "them". Elite as a performance level only. Each taking our own innate skills to an elite level. Not all will do so but, like a good construction team people do what they are good at. People who come with just a body and good intention are laborers until they learn on the job what skills they have that were latent. Some will be content as laborers and look to supply people with what they need with great skill and become elite laborers. This is all about spirit and performance at a broad social level. Let us not let the word "elite" stay with the current understanding. It is a word that has been misappropriated, IMO.

[enjoy being]

In the Christchurch earthquake aftermath, reports from observers show a picture about, elitism. On one hand you had the people with jobs and money and the fortitude in self to take on scenarios and get themselves through.. by doing such things as going and buying chemical toilets, or even a spade. Or buying a generator and sorting out their families needs, by taking charge of their situation, like they have always done.
On the other hand there were the poor people, who in many cases, held out their hands and demanded to be rescued and demanded portable toilets be supplied by the authorities, and they made many demands such as this, expecting to be saved like helpless stranded jellyfish.
It is clear who the first group will be to start fighting and murdering in a societal breakdown.

[modwiz]

In the Christchurch earthquake aftermath, reports from observers show a picture about, elitism. On one hand you had the people with jobs and money and the fortitude in self to take on scenarios and get themselves through.. by doing such things as going and buying chemical toilets, or even a spade. Or buying a generator and sorting out their families needs, by taking charge of their situation, like they have always done.
On the other hand there were the poor people, who in many cases, held out their hands and demanded to be rescued and demanded portable toilets be supplied by the authorities, and they made many demands such as this, expecting to be saved like helpless stranded jellyfish.
It is clear who the first group will be to start fighting and murdering in a societal breakdown.

Thank you for sharing that. My points have been about holding up a mirror to ourselves for reflection and not blame all of our problems on the "cabal". If we can cohere and become responsible to each other, regarding our performance, the cabal will not be able to play their games successfully. The better off amongst ourselves could look to be more helpful to our communities. The less better off could look to be more socially responsible where they can.

[Aianawa]

Strong souls and poor souls making choices based on 1 - education 2 - upbringing 3 - mind known, mmm that's a start, for the big one Nothing feb 22nd ( earthquake ), I was prepared as such, most poignant moment in this life, spent three days in the now moment, would love to do that/this at will, the shock that stayed with most at that time, many for weeks, some still, is tough work, choice making very difficult, many have woken up to power structures being false through this process, silver lining that many minds still becoming self knowing to this day, lol how many Bernie supporters are waking up to a differing reality through their false structures being seen and felt atm ?. Or Britains past Tony Blair structure etc etc

[modwiz]

Strong souls and poor souls making choices based on 1 - education 2 - upbringing 3 - mind known, mmm that's a start, for the big one Nothing feb 22nd ( earthquake ), I was prepared as such, most poignant moment in this life, spent three days in the now moment, would love to do that/this at will, the shock that stayed with most at that time, many for weeks, some still, is tough work, choice making very difficult, many have woken up to power structures being false through this process, silver lining that many minds still becoming self knowing to this day, lol how many Bernie supporters are waking up to a differing reality through their false structures being seen and felt atm ?. Or Britains past Tony Blair structure etc etc

Education: heart based decisions do not need higher education. Upbringing: Parental responsibility and forward planning towards bringing people into the world. Again, heart based information is there for all. Our Creator provided us with what we need to live responsibly in our world. Even scriptures are full of good child rearing ideas and social construction.

[Aianawa]

Feel that generational transfer of emotional, mental, physical and spiritual incompetence will transmute quickly, one to two generations would be Xlent IMO.

[Fred Steeves]

Is that really what we want? Would we wind up any better than the elite currently in place? If I had to speculate based on what I see overall in alternative media and forum world, it doesn't look too terribly promising. This includes my own back yard lest I come off as sounding elite myself...



I do not mean elite like "them". Elite as a performance level only. Each taking our own innate skills to an elite level. Not all will do so but, like a good construction team people do what they are good at. People who come with just a body and good intention are laborers until they learn on the job what skills they have that were latent. Some will be content as laborers and look to supply people with what they need with great skill and become elite laborers. This is all about spirit and performance at a broad social level. Let us not let the word "elite" stay with the current understanding. It is a word that has been misappropriated, IMO.

Alright fair enough Rad, perhaps it's just me in that I naturally shy away from such terminology. It could just as easily be a term such as "special", "world class", "master", you get my drift.

So anyway, while we're at it let me ask you a fun little hypothetical: There is a group of 99 elite wizards out there of the first magnitude, and one day a tap on the shoulder comes that you have been unanimously invited to become that all magickal # 100. 100 wizards/100 monkeys, same thing same effect in this case. This now complete group would set things straight again in the world by banishing the ruling elite, and freeing the contrived shackles holding mankind back from expressing it's full potential. Would you do it?


Cheers

[modwiz]

Alright fair enough Rad, perhaps it's just me in that I naturally shy away from such terminology. It could just as easily be a term such as "special", "world class", "master", you get my drift.

So anyway, while we're at it let me ask you a fun little hypothetical: There is a group of 99 elite wizards out there of the first magnitude, and one day a tap on the shoulder comes that you have been unanimously invited to become that all magickal # 100. 100 wizards/100 monkeys, same thing same effect in this case. This now complete group would set things straight again in the world by banishing the ruling elite, and freeing the contrived shackles holding mankind back from expressing it's full potential. Would you do it?


Cheers


No. Humanity needs to to mature. Please no more what if questions. They are set ups for judgement of the answer. I am aware of holding an unpopular position and try to keep that exposure to a minimum. Works well in chess and other strategizing.:) In a PM it is all a go, brother.

[Fred Steeves]

No. Humanity needs to to mature. Please no more what if questions. They are set ups for judgement of the answer. I am aware of holding an unpopular position and try to keep that exposure to a minimum. Works well in chess and other strategizing.:) In a PM it is all a go, brother.

Ah I'm trying to set anyone up, I just like asking questions. Helps me to further clarify certain things. Thanks for the answer though and thanks for playing. :) I'm not a big pm guy any more, or even forums for that fact. Why don't we reconnect on Skype, I'll give you a ring.

[modwiz]

Ah I'm trying to set anyone up, I just like asking questions. Helps me to further clarify certain things. Thanks for the answer though and thanks for playing. :) I'm not a big pm guy any more, or even forums for that fact. Why don't we reconnect on Skype, I'll give you a ring.

I did not think you were setting me up. It was just situational and I am on guard to not be misunderstood. I turn my Skype on and off throughout the day and will look for your "ring" when on.

[modwiz]

I found a short and very useful video on lucid dreaming. At ten plus minutes it is a worthy watch for anyone looking to tap into the power and coherence of the other side of our life.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSxxJWc5uOY

[modwiz]

Here is a little possible comic relief. According the the speaker, Alex, her pineal gland is on fire with her new headband. My understanding of the pineal and its effects upon us when activated is at odds with the behavior exhibited by this lady. I do not assume being correct about my understanding. I will let others see the effects of what happens when your pineal gland is "on fire" and let them make their own decisions.

Caution: Your choice of lipstick may be affected.:rolleyes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q7d6GCd7U4

[enjoy being]

I get in trouble when it comes to publishing evaluations on the pedigree of delusion that infests those so affected by the madnesses of society that they embrace escapism to the detriment and contradiction of their intent and desires.
We are shown these people for a reason and their purpose is very important, but just not in the way they think it is.

[enjoy being]

I am guessing some have already seen this guy's contributions. The socialexperimentalist


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5c-GEc2cHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrWGv1hoCdw

[Joanna]

I found a short and very useful video on lucid dreaming. At ten plus minutes it is a worthy watch for anyone looking to tap into the power and coherence of the other side of our life.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSxxJWc5uOY

Modwiz, I found this resonant, in regard to lucid dreaming being a natural state, not something to try to 'force' or 'engineer' into being. What he talks about in relation to day-dreaming, and how the borderline between day-dreaming and dreaming while asleep/lucid dreaming becoming very thin, when you give yourself time to day-dream before sleep or during the 'snooze' stage of waking, is somewhat similar to how I approach dreaming-with-an-intent.
I do it by visualization-type meditation before sleeping, where I take myself into an 'inner heart landscape/realm' which is clearly visualized (and infinite, as it has no borders/boundaries). I've used this as a daily practice for several years now, and have found that just as the detail and clarity of the inner heart realm have grown (through a combination of both intentional creations and observing and interacting with what 'appears' in there that is not consciously directed), so have the dreams that I 'step into' from that place on falling asleep. Often, there is a direct continuation from meditation to dream, and vice versa....they naturally flow from one to the other...and inform each other, so to speak.

[modwiz]

Modwiz, I found this resonant, in regard to lucid dreaming being a natural state, not something to try to 'force' or 'engineer' into being. What he talks about in relation to day-dreaming, and how the borderline between day-dreaming and dreaming while asleep/lucid dreaming becoming very thin, when you give yourself time to day-dream before sleep or during the 'snooze' stage of waking, is somewhat similar to how I approach dreaming-with-an-intent.
I do it by visualization-type meditation before sleeping, where I take myself into an 'inner heart landscape/realm' which is clearly visualized (and infinite, as it has no borders/boundaries). I've used this as a daily practice for several years now, and have found that just as the detail and clarity of the inner heart realm have grown (through a combination of both intentional creations and observing and interacting with what 'appears' in there that is not consciously directed), so have the dreams that I 'step into' from that place on falling asleep. Often, there is a direct continuation from meditation to dream, and vice versa....they naturally flow from one to the other...and inform each other, so to speak.

Really happy to hear you enjoyed it and found it agreeing with your experience. I thought it was excellent advice and explained well within a well timed segment.

[modwiz]

The good doctor speaks.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/07/07/20160710_unclesam1_0.jpg

[Cearna]

:hilarious: Colleen

[Dreamtimer]

Joanne, glad to see your thoughts on the lucid dreaming video. I thought of you while I watched. It reminded me of what you've shared regarding lucid dreaming. His method is similar to what Robert Moss talks about. His goal (one among many) is to teach people to go actively into the Dreamworld from the liminal state. He's coined a term, 'Active Dreaming'.

Thanks for sharing, Modwiz. I went to Martin's channel to check out some of his other work.:)

[Cearna]

Just found this amongst my e-mail, and had to come back on-line to share it with you, from Astrologer Lynn Hayes.


Sunday inspiration: Longing to Belong

Posted: 10 Jul 2016 05:39 AM PDT

Venus is in Cancer right now, enhancing our longing to belong to a tribe, a family of souls that connect us to the earth. This longing for connection conflicts over the next day or two with Uranus in Aries – the individualist, the loner. This conflict between our need for individual space and our need to belong is central to the human condition and creator of much of our personal and political conflicts.

To inspire healing on this day where our desire to belong is conflicting with our need to separate, I offer this beautiful writing from the late John O’Donohoe.



Our world desperately needs to come in from the lost islands of desiccated individualism and learn to stand again on the fecund earth where vibrant and vital interaction can happen between people.

Our world is facing so many crises ecologically, economically, and spiritually. These cannot be overcome by isolated individuals. We need to come together. There is incredible power in a community of people who are together because they care, and who are motivated by the ideals of compassion and creativity.

When such a community develops and maintains its own vision, it will not fall into the trap of being prisoners of reaction and beginning to resemble more and more the opposition. It will not deconstruct in the introverted power games, but maintain its care and critical focus.

When such a prophetic community is nourished by prayer and animated by Divine Longing, the harvest of creativity and belonging which it can bring is unlimited.

Excerpt from Eternal Echoes.

The post Sunday inspiration: Longing to Belong appeared first on Astrology readings and writings by Lynn Hayes.

[modwiz]

It has occurred to me that my two main threads, this one and Modwiz Musings, will appeal to two different mind sets. Modwiz Musings one is event related and thus is aimed at the average mind. One would hope this is the most abundant. The Tent is for ideas mainly though, geared to be open to all. With the observation that a current thread that is focused on a person seems to be getting the most traffic, one is left to surmise. :hmm:

I am sure those that seek to control us must be delighted by such focus. To Know Thyself is a perennial wisdom.

[modwiz]

I was guided to a site that posts what look to be weekly observations of world scenarios. I will put some of the content here and then post the link. First some USA related thoughts.


July 12 - Without 270 electoral votes, there is no Presidential election outcome. In other words, having one or more battleground states delay elections due to threats to voters, the entire Presidential election will be delayed, for without either Presidential candidate tallying 270+ electoral votes on November 8, no decision can be made as to who is elected President. Since individual states are easy to hijack, the expected October wave of domestic terrorist attacks will likely transpire in battleground states such as Florida, Ohio and/or Pennsylvania. The decision by leadership controlling terrorist operations to launch the October attacks can be delayed until as late as September, in order to determine which attacks will guarantee a ‘hung jury’ on election day. As of July 10, 2016, Clinton is projected to secure 217 electoral votes while Trump only has 191 electoral votes secured [1]. According to another poll, the tipping point state is Florida, in which Clinton is ahead by 5.9% [2]. Therefore, the threat of terrorist attacks on election day in Florida alone could ensure a hung jury on election day.

Now, some International or European related.


On the European front, Italy is poised to use their October elections as a referendum of sorts [7], the outcome of which is expected to further destabilize the European Union and empower Russia. Since Deutsche Bank is considered the weakest link in the global financial derivatives market, the Italian election may trigger the global economic reset that more and more economists are discussing, resulting in 30+% currency devaluation in the U.S. dollar relative to goods and services. Liquidity will evaporate during this transition to a new global currency system, further eroding global trade and heightening tensions between the East and West. Weakening currencies will motivate nations to pursue control over greater resources and over their own populations. Direct conflict is unlikely on a large scale until after conflict between Israel and its hostile neighbors escalates into a full-blown regional conflagration. What specifically will trigger an escalation in the Middle East remains indeterminate, though a few possible scenarios such as the assassination of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas have been discussed in previous posts. October appears to be the critical month for both the United States and Europe, with the Middle East coming to the forefront shortly thereafter.

I fully concur with October being a very crucial time for the world. The Justice/Balance of Libra transitions into Death/Rebirth Scorpio. Scorpio is also known for its intensity, deep emotion and "payback". Phoenix type energy is also related to it.

http://www.provemewrong.today/

[modwiz]

My friend Butch Robins, shared a thought with me that I think bears repeating. He says, it is not a case of all lives matter. More importantly the focus, or meme, is All Life Matters. I had to agree with his Gaia-centric view.

[modwiz]

I think this excerpt of a Jeff Rense show with Jim Fetzer belongs here because it is concept/idea based around events, instead of events themselves. Only twenty minutes long it is an intelligent conversation about the WTF's of both the Dallas and Orlando shootings. It is full of observations to ponder and Jeff always has good graphics to accompany the narrative.

Jeff Rense & James Fetzer - Is The Government Trying to Incite Civil War?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaLA2LBEUys

[Joanna]

Joanne, glad to see your thoughts on the lucid dreaming video. I thought of you while I watched. It reminded me of what you've shared regarding lucid dreaming. His method is similar to what Robert Moss talks about. His goal (one among many) is to teach people to go actively into the Dreamworld from the liminal state. He's coined a term, 'Active Dreaming'.

Thanks for sharing, Modwiz. I went to Martin's channel to check out some of his other work.:)

It's a fascinating aspect of life, and I also read what you write about dreams with great interest, Dreamtimer (and apologize for not always replying, I have got busy elsewhere, but do read and enjoy your posts). :love:


The Tent is for ideas mainly though, geared to be open to all. With the observation that a current thread that is focused on a person seems to be getting the most traffic, one is left to surmise. :hmm:

I am sure those that seek to control us must be delighted by such focus. To Know Thyself is a perennial wisdom.

I agree, it is all part of Planned Distraction/Diversion/Opposition. Yet, if people can go past bitterness and disillusionment, ultimately even this circus can propel consciousness toward wisdom, in a roundabout kind of fashion. :p


My friend Butch Robins, shared a thought with me that I think bears repeating. He says, it is not a case of all lives matter. More importantly the focus, or meme, is All Life Matters. I had to agree with his Gaia-centric view.

(((( YES ))))

[modwiz]

I just finished watching this first part of a two part presentation by Joseph P Farrell at the Secret Space Program Conference. Wow. He is a great speaker bringing scholarly gravitas to a woo woo subject. I need to got to bed now and will keep this introduction to what is present here. Although the topics covered will be put here. I will post part two later in the day and after listening to it first.


Presentation 1 Synopsis
I. A Look Back: San Mateo 2014: The Post-War Mega-Manhattan Project on Steroids
II. The Historical Context (where we talk about lots of artillery).
III. The Mythological Context (where we talk about lots of psychopathy)
IV. Implications for the National Security-Breakaway Civilization/Secret Space Program complex (where we talk about lots of paranoia).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se7i0gWDLp0

[Dreamtimer]

Thanks for the vids, Modwiz. I like to listen, especially, when Joseph speaks with Catherine Austin Fitts. The two of them discussed the conference and how there were some celebrity whistleblower types who wanted to be speakers but weren't invited. They spoke of how the speakers at this conference are all researchers, scholars, etc., and not the latest hot personality.

The Jeff Rense bits are good and I often find myself wishing I could listen to the rest. I don't know anything about him.

[pointessa]

My friend Butch Robins, shared a thought with me that I think bears repeating. He says, it is not a case of all lives matter. More importantly the focus, or meme, is All Life Matters. I had to agree with his Gaia-centric view.


I couldn't agree more. That is the true imbalance that we must ultimately deal with. When we understand that all life matters and act on it, things will rebalance on the planet.

[modwiz]

I have lstened to part to of J.P. Farrell's presentation. It seems it ended befor it was over, running a little over 18 minutes. Here it is anyway.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2V3YtU1-XM

[modwiz]

Some more from the Secret Space Program Conference with Catherine Austin Fitts.

Catherine Austin Fitts at the Secret Space Program Conference, 2015, Bastrop TX


Presentation
What is happening as a result of an increased focus in space? What will the impact be on our political leadership and our global governance system?

What are the implications for global cooperation and the risks of war? What does it mean to our local economies? What are the implications for investors? Where are the opportunities for each of us to learn, participate and make a difference?

Catherine Austin Fitts provides an overview of what the growing overt and covert investment in space means to you and everybody on this planet.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewcZts6WHUw

[modwiz]

One of my favorite bloggers/article writers is a man called The Saker. He lives in America, born in a European country but, is an Slav who is Eastern Orthodox and writes intelligently about Russia. His latest article is out and it is about the NATO summit that just concluded in Warsaw, Poland. He is a very respected writer and I urge anybody who likes to be informed about the international situation as it currently is with a confrontation between the AngloZionist Empire and Russia to read this and anything he writes. Thos confrontation is world shaping a few topics are more important, IMO.


The real purpose of the summit was to force each western political leader to chose between reality and ideology. And they all made the correct choice, of course. They categorically rejected reality and enthusiastically embraced ideology.

This is why Russia was accused of not complying with an agreement she is not even a part to.

This is why Russia was accused of “aggression” against Georgia even though even the EU concluded that Georgia had started the war

This is why a non-existing Russian threat was denounced

This is why the Russian armed forces were declared deterred by a few NATO battalions

This is why the Russian invasion of the Donbass was denounced

This is why the 100% legal referendum in Crimea was completely ignored

The unanimous determination of all the western leaders to ignore reality and to firmly and publicly hold on and proclaim ideological nonsense as truthful was, in reality, the expected goal of the summit.

AngloZionists love to “send messages” and here several messages were sent loud and clear.

Message to Russia: you dared to oppose us and you thought that being in the right might help you. Well, Russia, screw you Russia, and screw reality! You either are with us (i.e. under our control), or you will be treated like a pariah.

Message to the European people: least any of you consider defying us, we are showing you a united front. A united from of the parasitic superstructure ruling the EU on behalf of the local 1%er comprador elites of Russia and on behalf of the AngloZionist Empire. So don’t even think of being independent, free or any other such nonsense. We run the planet and you obey.

Message to the rest of the planet: don’t even think of joining or even supporting Russia because if you do, we will snap you like a twig. We run the planet and we make and break anybody.

Last but not least,

Message to themselves: we are in control, we will prevail, the Russians will have to back down, we are invulnerable.

I would submit that this last message might be the most important of them all. Because, of course, the AngloZionist leaders are afraid. Afraid mainly of Russia, of course, but even more by what Russia represents. They are afraid of a Dollar which is sustained by nothing, not oil and not even USN aircraft carriers. They are afraid by the growing realization that less and less people out there are afraid of them. They are afraid by countries such as Russia, Iran or China daring to openly declare that they will follow another economic and civilizational model. But more than anything else they are terrified by the growing realization that “their own people” (at least theoretically) hate and despise them.

A few more paragraphs are written after this and here is the meaningful part of the concluding ones:


Finally, many Russians realize that the Western civilization is as discredited, morally bankrupt and, basically, dead, as the Soviet civilization was by the late 1980s. There are no more “western values”, at least not in any quality other then as the object of jokes and disgusted sneers. Everybody pretends, but nobody really believes any of it. All the grand conceptual building composed of notions such as ‘democracy’, ‘human rights’, ‘freedom’, ‘justice’ has come crushing down and is now beyond repair. The good news is that this collapse is not final, and just as Russia eventually re-discovered herself after 2000, so will the West, both in the USA and the Europe. I can easily imaging the people of the West eventually turning back to their ancient historical roots, but they will do that in a new, modern way. Just like the Russia of 2000-2016 is not the Russia of before 1917, so the new West will emerge as something new, but with roots in the distant past. But before that happens the West will have to undergo a painful and very dangerous process of disintegration similar to what the Soviet Union went through between roughly 1980 and 2000.

Dmitry Orlov is absolutely correct. The collapse of the West is inevitable and the study of the collapse of the Soviet Union yields many interesting lessons.

Read the whole article here. http://thesaker.is/the-xxvith-nato-party-conference-in-warsaw-a-commentary/

[Aragorn]

This guy absolutely knows what he's talking about. He's right on the mark. But of course, the situation still persists, and if Killary manages to take the throne of The Acronymian Empire™, then there will be a nuclear exchange with Russia over Iran.

Hillary Rodham Clinton works for the Zionist cartel that wants to wipe Iran off the map, and she's already quite accustomed to wearing blood on her hands as if it's part of her extensive set of jewelry. She's very eager to push that button and bring down the curse of genocide on Acronymia once again.



"My God, what have I done?"
(Robert Oppenheimer, upon witnessing the first detonation of the atomic bomb)


As popular as Donald Trump may be at the moment — despicable as he is in his own right — I think that the decision has already long been made to put Hillary on the throne, and to have her unleash her criminal insanity upon the world at large. The only two ways I can think of which would prevent that from happening are...


if she does indeed get assassinated, as was eerily predicted in 2007 by Daniel Craine, alias Dan Burisch; or
if she does after all get arrested for her crimes, which is what is currently being claimed by Julian Assange.

[modwiz]

Here is another thoughtful and articulate piece and one well worth reading through. It could almost be called Neo-Gnostic as it parses what is real with what is ephemeral in a way that does nor negate physical reality in way some of the Gnostics did.

Here is a good picture for where we are currently. LOL

http://i2.wp.com/philosophyofmetrics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/4199675334_cfd42a39ce_o-e1385008901822.jpg?w=650

Now an excerpt or two:

The Elites Are the Slaves


This discussion will present the reader with an alternative consideration of the hierarchical structure of the world. It will challenge the belief systems of most and plant seeds which will lay dormant until such a time that each individual will shine light on them. Our own personal definitions of the world and punishment will transform and provide us a new method of filtering the experience of existence.

The common consensus would have us accept the reality of elite demographics which control the wealth of the world and direct the flow of historical events. The evidence supporting the existence of such elites is overwhelming and fits within the human expression of instinctual survival.

The difference comes about when we think on the deeper purpose of life. The accumulation of matter and matter based knowledge in and of itself is not the primary purpose of the human experience. It would even be reasonable to state that the accumulation of matter and matter based knowledge is an unwanted side effect of the human experience. It is also reasonable to assume that this side effect has become accepted as the semi-total expression of existence.


The accumulation of matter creates a false sense of survival security which is expressed through the transfer of wealth between individuals. It is important to understand that any transfer of wealth begins between two individuals and expands outward to include larger demographics and strategies. This obsession with the accumulation of matter is manifested from within a corruption of the instinct. This corruption of the instinct serves as a method of self-punishment and prevents full evolution beyond the level of instinct.

The accumulation of knowledge creates a false sense of intellectual awareness. This false knowledge has been used to build the hierarchal structure of our civilization. This hierarchal structure is expressed through the creation of scholastic sub-hierarchies which serve as symbolic gatekeepers to the higher socioeconomic hierarchy which acts through a corruption of both the instinct and the intellect. Both feed on one another and create a timeless cycle of arrested development which spans from the origins of man to the rise and fall of empires. The corrupt combination of instinct and intellect serves as a method of self-punishment and prevents the full evolution towards enlightenment.

http://philosophyofmetrics.com/the-elites-are-the-slaves-freepom/

[Dreamtimer]

The path is from instinct to intellectual awareness to enlightenment. The false intellectual awareness is matter based. The true intellectual awareness is based in love, then? I'm unclear on this.

Though I have (too) many things, I don't value myself and life based on them. However, I did do this in the past and it's been quite difficult to avoid materialism when surrounded by people who value it so much.

I have also had difficulty moving away from self-punishment but have in fact been doing that. Mostly, when I watch others be slaves to materialism and self-punishment I see that I don't want to be that way.

I don't want to see people suffer and yet I've found myself more than once thinking about how a little deprivation would help people to rearrange their priorities.

I can think of several people who would happily call themselves slaves if it means they can be rich.:crazy:

[modwiz]

The path is from instinct to intellectual awareness to enlightenment. The false intellectual awareness is matter based. The true intellectual awareness is based in love, then? I'm unclear on this.


I would say so. Our basic intellect is a consciousness that finds its energetic focus in the third chakra. Our brain is a neural receiving a processing center. For our intellect to find enlightenment it must move upward into the heart and make use of the information received there. From that enlightenment we can then move a step higher and use the higher will of expressing it. Although expression through words, or other conveyances, is a good start, it is well said that actions speak louder than words. So the higher will, informed by the heart bringing into coherence the thoughts and feelings of the lower chakras, expressed through the higher will of the 5th chakra by communication, via words and actions, will assist us in bringing about and living in a more enlightened world.

The article was decent but, not great. It did bring focus and some empowerment through understanding the current world a little better, IMO. Who we really are, spiritual beings, needs constant coherent representation with all of the distractions we have. Including woo woo that uses words in ways that lead to memes but, not empowerment through understanding.

[Aragorn]

Enlightenment is something too many people seek outside of themselves. They listen to and study so-called gurus, but it doesn't work like that, and here's why...:


Enlightenment cannot be found by bolting new experiences and new theories onto yourself. Enlightenment must be found within, by first and foremost establishing who you are, and becoming aware of every aspect of your own being, including that what makes you tick, and why it does.


No matter what anyone tells you, no matter what you read in the books from whatever self-proclaimed guru, we all live within our own individual reality bubbles, and we are all distinct. What applies to any specific guru may not apply to you, because you are a different person and you live in your own reality bubble, with its own set of rules and its own set of potentials. We all have our individual paths to walk, and you cannot walk the path of another person without getting hopelessly lost.


If you seek enlightenment with the intent of becoming a godlike being, then you are already off the path, because then you are only seeking to stroke your own ego. There is nothing wrong with having an ego — i.e. having an identity — but you must acknowledge your reasons for wanting to be enlightened. The desire to become a godlike being is not a respectable reason, nor will it ever work out that way. Only in the humbleness of childlike innocence and sincerity lies enlightenment.


Enlightenment isn't knowledge. Enlightenment is comprehension. These are two very different things.


Enlightenment cannot be sought or found, for it is not something which exists "out there". If you are truly honest with yourself, then enlightenment will instead find you.


I've written all of the above with my own hands, and it comes out of my own mind. I am not channelling any entities. I did not copy and paste this from any website, nor am I reciting it from anyone's book. I am not going to claim enlightenment, because I know what I still do not know, and it is neither my intent nor my ambition to know everything — there are plenty of things I would rather never have known about. All I want to know, is that which I need to know in order to be able to be the best I can be, for myself as well as for everyone else.

And here's the beautiful catch... If you — i.e. the impersonal and generic "you, the reader" — accept anything of what I've written here above as being The Truth™ at face value, then I have failed to convey my message to you. :)

[modwiz]

Enlightenment is something too many people seek outside of themselves. They listen to and study so-called gurus, but it doesn't work like that, and here's why...:


Enlightenment cannot be found by bolting new experiences and new theories onto yourself. Enlightenment must be found within, by first and foremost establishing who you are, and becoming aware of every aspect of your own being, including that what makes you tick, and why it does.


No matter what anyone tells you, no matter what you read in the books from whatever self-proclaimed guru, we all live within our own individual reality bubbles, and we are all distinct. What applies to any specific guru may not apply to you, because you are a different person and you live in your own reality bubble, with its own set of rules and its own set of potentials. We all have our individual paths to walk, and you cannot walk the path of another person without getting hopelessly lost.


If you seek enlightenment with the intent of becoming a godlike being, then you are already off the path, because then you are only seeking to stroke your own ego. There is nothing wrong with having an ego — i.e. having an identity — but you must acknowledge your reasons for wanting to be enlightened. The desire to become a godlike being is not a respectable reason, nor will it ever work out that way. Only in the humbleness of childlike innocence and sincerity lies enlightenment.


Enlightenment isn't knowledge. Enlightenment is comprehension. These are two very different things.


Enlightenment cannot be sought or found, for it is not something which exists "out there". If you are truly honest with yourself, then enlightenment will instead find you.


I've written all of the above with my own hands, and it comes out of my own mind. I am not channelling any entities. I did not copy and paste this from any website, nor am I reciting it from anyone's book. I am not going to claim enlightenment, because I know what I still do not know, and it is neither my intent nor my ambition to know everything — there are plenty of things I would rather never have known about. All I want to know, is that which I need to know in order to be able to be the best I can be, for myself as well as for everyone else.

And here's the beautiful catch... If you — i.e. the impersonal and generic "you, the reader" — accept anything of what I've written here above as being The Truth™ at face value, then I have failed to convey my message to you. :)

Thank you for the words from your own hand. I find them valid and "enlightened".:) Just my opinion, of course.

[Aragorn]

Thank you for the words from your own hand. I find them valid and "enlightened".:) Just my opinion, of course.

It's a Middle-Earthian thing. Must be my Elven blood. ;)

[PurpleLama]

I just heard JP Farrell make an interesting supposition to Austin-Fitts in an interview in regards to factional infighting between portions of the deep state, how one which makes some of its revenue from casinos has seen a drop in its bottom line (think mafia and Trump) as the middle class has seen its disposable income dwindle down to nearly nothing, whereas another portion (banks and MIC* and Clinton) has had exponential growth in its own bottom line. Very rough paraphrase, I found his remark insightful.

*military industrial complex

[Elen]

One of my favorite bloggers/article writers is a man called The Saker. He lives in America, born in a European country but, is an Slav who is Eastern Orthodox and writes intelligently about Russia. His latest article is out and it is about the NATO summit that just concluded in Warsaw, Poland. He is a very respected writer and I urge anybody who likes to be informed about the international situation as it currently is with a confrontation between the AngloZionist Empire and Russia to read this and anything he writes. Thos confrontation is world shaping a few topics are more important, IMO.



A few more paragraphs are written after this and here is the meaningful part of the concluding ones:



Read the whole article here. http://thesaker.is/the-xxvith-nato-party-conference-in-warsaw-a-commentary/

Hey modwiz, I love the way you're digging into the Russian take on things like this. I too feel there's a lot to be found in Russia on many levels, and my late father put me onto it when he was alive. "Keep an eye on Russia!" Thanks for sharing that, it makes a lot of sense.

[modwiz]

I just heard JP Farrell make an interesting supposition to Austin-Fitts in an interview in regards to factional infighting between portions of the deep state, how one which makes some of its revenue from casinos has seen a drop in its bottom line (think mafia and Trump) as the middle class has seen its disposable income dwindle down to nearly nothing, whereas another portion (banks and MIC* and Clinton) has had exponential growth in its own bottom line. Very rough paraphrase, I found his remark insightful.

*military industrial complex

Thanks for the post PL. I really enjoy JPF and check out his website every day. The presentation he did at the SSP conference, posted in this thread a few days ago, was typical of his excellent information and presentation. He is a good speaker and never bores me. The Paul LaViolette video was a "watching paint dry" kind of delivery, though interesting at some level.

Anyway, Joseph and Catherine are a pair with a lot of information punch, IMO. I think the outline you give here rings true and it good news if we can benefit from said infighting.

[modwiz]

Hey modwiz, I love the way you're digging into the Russian take on things like this. I too feel there's a lot to be found in Russia on many levels, and my late father put me onto it when he was alive. "Keep an eye on Russia!" Thanks for sharing that, it makes a lot of sense.

Yes, there is a lot to be inspired by and in some cases reflect. We need to return to a spiritually based vision for ourselves, IMO. Basically, we need to become conscious of who and what we really are. Also, we need to recognize that there is a parasitic consciousness that we have to acknowledge and dis-empower. That consciousness thrives on materialism and love of money. Money is the god of billions on this planet because it remedies the contrived way we exchange energy and goods. It tied in to the false god concept as god as controller thereby rescuer. Our current woes in the false system create money as the rescuer.

[Dreamtimer]

Enlightenment is comprehension. Very nice and succinct.:)

[modwiz]

I have been waiting a few days to have the time to watch this video. I made the mistake of watching a Paul LaViolette video first.:yawn: Lots of good information from him about advanced drives for space travel but, it is a little slow going and technical.

Anyway, I am sure that this video is going to be very good and will watch it when time finally presents itself.

Here it is.

Linda Moulton Howe at the Secret Space Program Conference, 2015, Bastrop TX


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwtw8GsX1qw

[PurpleLama]

I listened most of the SSP programs when they got from behind the pay wall, they're all pretty great.

[PurpleLama]

Check out the Higherside Chat Show (http://thehighersidechats.com) for some good interviews, if that hasn't come on your radar, Carlwood does his due diligence with each of his guests, which I appreciate. Plus I like his theme song, it's catchy.

[modwiz]

Check out the Higherside Chat Show (http://thehighersidechats.com) for some good interviews, if that hasn't come on your radar, Carlwood does his due diligence with each of his guests, which I appreciate. Plus I like his theme song, it's catchy.

I listened to the Engdahl show a few nights ago. It was really good and full of little known history of oligarchs and how they have operated.

Some notes from the first 15 minutes or so.


This week on THC, Greg chats with Princeton graduate, geopolitical analyst, professor and lecturer, as well as author of brilliant titles such as Seeds of Destruction: The Diabolical World of Genetic Manipulation, A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order, and the latest in a line of carefully crafted masterpieces The Lost Hegemon: whom the Gods would destroy none other than the esteemed F. William Engdahl. Join them as they wade through murky waters clouded by the pollution of thinks tanks for the military industrial complex, shadow governments enlisting armed forces to install puppet regimes, the pillaging of natural resources and the destruction of anyone standing between the Elite and supreme power.
On today’s episode they begin by tracing the history of the hegemon and it’s downfall:
2:30 Dating back to the end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815 and the Battle of Waterloo, until the World War I, the British Empire was the hegemon. In 1941, an article written by Henry Luce, editor and publisher of Time and Life magazines declared the dawn of the American Century. Prior to the start of World War II, through the grants from the Rockefeller Foundation to Council on Foreign Relations, theWar and Peace Studies was created to gather the top geopolitical minds and strategists to begin crafting the plan towards American and western dominance through total control of resources. Armed with the blueprint by geopolitician Karl Haushofer and his imperialistic plan for Nazi domination, Lebensraum, a plan was set in motion to become the new reigning hegemon
4:30 The Lost Hegemon details the downward spiral of the US and it’s oligarchs such as David Rockefeller and George Soros. It documents the history since the 1950’s of the perverse marriage between CIA and the Muslim Brotherhood as it transforms through the introduction into Saudi Arabia by CIA operative Miles Copeland, to the alliance with Osama bin Laden and Zbigniew Brzezinski, leading up toHillary Clinton and the elite’s failed attempts to install CIA puppet regimes throughout the Middle East under the guise of the Arabic Spring. As these regions become destabilized, and control of oil pipelines becomes increasingly uncertain the geopolitical powers are shifting


F. William Engdahl | The Lost Hegemon, The Oligarchs’ Decline, & What Comes Next

http://thehighersidechats.com/f-william-engdahl-lost-hegemon/

[PurpleLama]

https://solari.com/audio/sr20160707_InterviewHQ.mp3

Recent Solari Report with JPF

[modwiz]

https://solari.com/audio/sr20160707_InterviewHQ.mp3

Recent Solari Report with JPF

Catherine Austin Fitts with Joseph P. Farrell.

I really appreciate you visiting the Tent and bringing gifts, PL.

[Dreamtimer]

Catherine Austin Fitts with Joseph P. Farrell.

I really appreciate you visiting the Tent and bringing gifts, PL.

Me too.:)

[PurpleLama]

I am glad to be back in the Tent, indeed. We will touch base sometime soon, I'm sure.

[modwiz]

I just got done watching this wonderful show by six special human beings. Their conversation was thoughtful and there was no speaking over one another. Randy Maugans is someone I have only recently discovered and am happy that I did. He has been doing show for quite a long time and has an evolution that makes him a powerful voice because of the wisdom he has gained. I felt a sense of gratitude to see these people represent what we call our community with dignity and intelligence. They are working to forge a real community without silly feuds and name calling. Towards the end some names get mentioned but, only to call them back "home". Simon P, Wilcock, Corey Goode and Alfred Weber were mentioned. There was respect in their language and it will not feed anyone looking for gossip.

I can't say this video will have broad appeal because it calls to a certain level of personal responsibility and thoughtfulness that is not the signature of the many voyeurs and thrill seekers that make up a part of our community. Those who look for whistleblowing, UFO's and other similar types of entertainment might find that this video is not for them. However, do not take my word for it. Open the video and begin towatch it and decide for yourself. There is nothing that would make me happier than to be wrong about how I see some things in our multi-forum community.

Shane haters be warned, he is part of this panel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qBzMyzTucM

[Fred Steeves]

I can't say this video will have broad appeal because it calls to a certain level of personal responsibility and thoughtfulness that is not the signature of the many voyeurs and thrill seekers that make up a part of our community.

Nice to see this group of battle scarred veterans telling it like it is, of both themselves, and this three ring circus the "alternative" media has spiraled into. The honesty, humbleness and introspection was refreshing, and I especially liked Shane's quote right towards the end: "The only way out, is through".

So far as I'm concerned these mediums we frequent are all but dried up and self consuming any more, but perhaps I'm also witnessing a small Phoenix rising from the ashes. That would be a most welcome surprise. :)

[Dreamtimer]

I think you are seeing that phoenix, Fred. It seems to me that certain things have run their course and a lot of people have been waking up and smelling the coffee. The circus will continue with its audience but those who aren't at the circus are getting busy and real. :ninja:

[Maggie]

Check out the Higherside Chat Show (http://thehighersidechats.com) for some good interviews, if that hasn't come on your radar, Carlwood does his due diligence with each of his guests, which I appreciate. Plus I like his theme song, it's catchy.

I agree and subscribed to hear the whole interview of some guests.
The subject of an expanding earth is interesting to me and it makes sense.
I am enjoying this talk that I found when I listened to the Harry Hubbard podcast and read the comments.
There are many bits in the conversation that discuss the context of an expanding earth.

And at 20:44 the evidence of the principle of how a sphere like ours might manifest

A MECHANISM FOR EARTH EXPANSION (http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/A%20mechanism%20for%20Earth%20Expansion.pdf)

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Gas-Powered Planetary Expansion -Evidence and Calculations (http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/Gas-Powered%20Planetary%20Expansion%20-%20Evidence%20and%20Calculations.pdf)

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Edit

The electric universe and an expanding earth are compatible


Expanding Earth and Electric Universe theory

expanding earth electric universe powerSome Electric Universe consequences might include:

Changes in gravity without change in Earths mass (gravity as an electromagnetic force, as science does not know what gravity actually is, they just know what they call gravity does)
Natural external power sources from an electromagnetic solar system (Suns solar wind, Flux Transfer Events etc)
Sudden increases in planets mass (electromagnetic mass)http://www.xearththeory.com/expanding-earth-electric-universe-theory/

http://www.checktheevidence.com/pdf/Universal%20Gravity%20Based%20on%20the%20Electric% 20Universe%20Model.pdf
This is interesting IMO


The age of the Earth's lithosphere in Google Earth. This tool helps to better understand the evolution of the lithosphere across geological time. The file contains 3 separated overlays that can be displayed independently: contours and rainbow isochrons for the age of the ocean lithosphere, isochrons for age of the continental lithosphere. The transparency of each overlay can be adjusted using the slider for various effects.
The overlays were made using GMT from the University of Hawaii, the Agegrid data for ocean lithosphere (v3; Sep2008) available from EarthByte.org, and the Agegrid data for continental lithosphere kindly provided by Nikolai Shapiro (See article in Lithos). Tectonic boundaries data come from the USGS latest earthquakes KML file.http://nachon.free.fr/GE/Welcome.html

I think the map is well displayed here.
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[modwiz]

I can wrap my head around the expanding planet theory because of the way Clif High has explained it. I watched about ten minutes of the first video but stopped shortly after the man could not account for a mechanism for the expansion. I found this decent explanation by Clif. I have heard very good ones in his reports.


Expando Planet Model


The Expando Planet model is a sub set of the Expando Universe model of reality to which we will return in a bit. We start with Einstein and the much discussed, debated, and hated, E=MC2 equation.

In Einstein, and Newtonian understanding of physics, energy transforms into matter and vice versa, so if you twist on uranium in just the right way with energy, it will transform a bunch of its own matter into energy very rapidly and thus we have nuclear plants and bombs based on this principle of 'exciting' the matter of uranium (and other radioactive elements) to convert to energy. Well...in this universe, equations work both ways, so theoretically we could take a bunch of energy and 'condense' it into matter (assuming we knew how). This matter could be as dense as version as we desired given that we are condensing it out of energy. So we would initially get simple molecules such as hydrogen and helium, but if we persisted, we could continue to coagulate the energy into denser molecules like oil, or iron, or gold. And thus is explained how the whole alchemy transmutation thing works. By condensation.

So, in the Expando Planet model, the continuous stream of energy from the Sun goes not only to the surface of the planets, but also to the center of the planets, where, given the correct conditions, and the existence of an active plasma core (Mars, as an aside, has none, and is therefore, a 'dead' planet), this energy is transmuted into matter. Note also that plasma is a great form of an 'energetic antenna' and actually (in laboratories) seems to draw energy to it via sympathetic resonance.

So some of the energies of the Sun hit the surface of the earth, but energy at levels we cannot detect without really really working at it, go to the center of the planet where they are condensed by that plasma environment into matter.

By the way, the plasma model would allow for a faster spinning core, AND a reducing magnetic field as the field strength is not dependent on size nor spin rate. And further the plasma core idea does fit with observable fluctuations in magnetic field strength over these nearly 12, 000 year cycles. And again, plasma core idea works with heat levels internal to the earth (lower you go, hotter it gets), as well as abiotic oil, and the creation of minerals as well as their location of deposits.

So, since magic likely is not how the core of the earth generates the magnetic field that we observe, it would seem more likely that the explanation is that the core of the earth is plasma. Plasma is highly excited energy, and does develop prodigious magnetic fields all out of proportion to its size. All of the observable magnetic effects on earth can be explained with the plasma core idea. Also, human experience with plasma fields and forms in laboratories provides observable evidence of the electro magnetic effects every bit as variant as seen on earth.

So, in the Expando Planet model of thinking about Earth, the plasma core gets energy steadily from the Sun and as a necessity, must convert this steady stream of energy into matter. Thus if the Expando Planet model is correct, one of the predictable effects would be that the planet would pretty much continuously grow. And that is also what observable, manifesting reality demonstrates. The Earth is slowly growing. Even mainstream science and mainstream media acknowledge this, though they never say why it should grow continuously if the core of the earth was actually iron. Oh well.... anyway, the plasma receives energy from the Sun at the core of the Earth, converts it to matter (e=mc2) and so then two logical questions then arise.....if energy is being transformed into matter in the middle of the earth, then where does it go? And....what happens to this whole matter creation mechanism if there is a sudden burst of energy from the Sun?

Mainstream science has always maintained that the planet grows slowly over time even without addressing why this should be the case. Further the whole point of the plate tectonic theory is 'propelled' by this idea of slow movement of the plates creeping about on liquid magma. Though against the idea of entropy, the cooling of the planet over time, and the rotation of the supposed iron core, the whole of the plate tectonic theory fails to hold up. Further, the presence of vast, previously unknown levels, of active volcanoes all across the planet does not support plate tectonics. Indeed, volcanoes are found even in places that the plate tectonic theory say should be subduction zones. So, to address the question of where does the continuously created matter go, we need only look around us. The matter quite actually 'bubbles' up out of, or as, the earth. And further, since it is created in the middle of an enclosed sphere (more or less, the earth is actually an oblate spheroid), the effects of matter created in the middle of a closed planet are naturally predictable. Imagine pumping water into an orange with a syringe.

[Cearna]

This is an extremely complicated scientific study to any one trying to explain any theory from Earth's perspective of what is happening to any part of the Earth and/or the Universe. I have someone helping me with this answer, so you know from the beginning that what they may say will more or less be contraversiel, but here goes anyway!!!!!

The living route to open learning is not through the android dealings in Science, nor proving some thing is by watching it grow through solid hear-say. The real beginning of simplified knowledge, is by turning to the combined minds of those close to something known as pure Truth. These someone Above, know what some minds here know of a knowledge known and improved on over the aeons of time. But, what sometimes is known is known as poor science, is later taken back to the fact that poor minds at that time were incapable of combining it all together, to leave working space to others to gift more to it than ever thought possible.

In some time ago, my husband and I asked those Above about the Universe itself, in relation to the BIg Bang theory and other things. We were informed that the Universe itself was expanding considerably. This was about 20 years ago. We were told it was originally approximately egg shaped, and was expanding outwards, till it was now roughly saucer shaped, why? Because all things to do with cosmic forces always work according to simply one reason, and this is that this is how it is supposed to be. You could call it Bemeneth or simply How things are now. Every thing works this way, if something needs to be created, it is as if it all forms itself - the number or type of or anything is just what makes itself, you were created just as you were supposed to be when and how , your name was yours and your alone, your place to go to was meant for you to go to, it is all just how it is. So the Universe began to go saucer shape and not long after we saw and article saying that scientist felt the Universe was expanding.

Now this one will get me into trouble, but the same thing happened to the Earth, it began to go from globe shape, to egg shape and is also now becoming saucer shaped, with a rim at the edge. Why? Because, in the cosmos, if expansion takes place in the Universe, the link of cosmos is to pull all things the same way, time will alter the entire torn apart link, till it screams, "I can't take this anymore", tosses itself to one side or another, then is so close to open, then an immense story unfolds, to more solid never wanted or needed to close to one empty, open life and tonnes of rocks will move, bad links where life was poor, will soon open, the torsion field pulls life to some purpose, richer than before, the link of the cosmos closes, and we all live happily ever after, or hopefully so, because some will have woken after aeons of dealing in trade and commerce and empy inside lives to find life is more than an empty bubble, life is meant to be apart of and live in to the full

[modwiz]

This is an extremely complicated scientific study to any one trying to explain any theory from Earth's perspective of what is happening to any part of the Earth and/or the Universe. I have someone helping me with this answer, so you know from the beginning that what they may say will more or less be contraversiel, but here goes anyway!!!!!

The living route to open learning is not through the android dealings in Science, nor proving some thing is by watching it grow through solid hear-say. The real beginning of simplified knowledge, is by turning to the combined minds of those close to something known as pure Truth. These someone Above, know what some minds here know of a knowledge known and improved on over the aeons of time. But, what sometimes is known is known as poor science, is later taken back to the fact that poor minds at that time were incapable of combining it all together, to leave working space to others to gift more to it than ever thought possible.

In some time ago, my husband and I asked those Above about the Universe itself, in relation to the BIg Bang theory and other things. We were informed that the Universe itself was expanding considerably. This was about 20 years ago. We were told it was originally approximately egg shaped, and was expanding outwards, till it was now roughly saucer shaped, why? Because all things to do with cosmic forces always work according to simply one reason, and this is that this is how it is supposed to be. You could call it Bemeneth or simply How things are now. Every thing works this way, if something needs to be created, it is as if it all forms itself - the number or type of or anything is just what makes itself, you were created just as you were supposed to be when and how , your name was yours and your alone, your place to go to was meant for you to go to, it is all just how it is. So the Universe began to go saucer shape and not long after we saw and article saying that scientist felt the Universe was expanding.

Now this one will get me into trouble, but the same thing happened to the Earth, it began to go from globe shape, to egg shape and is also now becoming saucer shaped, with a rim at the edge. Why? Because, in the cosmos, if expansion takes place in the Universe, the link of cosmos is to pull all things the same way, time will alter the entire torn apart link, till it screams, "I can't take this anymore", tosses itself to one side or another, then is so close to open, then an immense story unfolds, to more solid never wanted or needed to close to one empty, open life and tonnes of rocks will move, bad links where life was poor, will soon open, the torsion field pulls life to some purpose, richer than before, the link of the cosmos closes, and we all live happily ever after, or hopefully so, because some will have woken after aeons of dealing in trade and commerce and empy inside lives to find life is more than an empty bubble, life is meant to be apart of and live in to the full

I like the overview and see the egg into a saucer as quite reasonable and in line with the energy physics I am working with. The egg is a form that allows energy to build/gestate until it forms the coherence to sustain an implosive form like a saucer or galaxy.

Here is a good example: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/M104_ngc4594_sombrero_galaxy_hi-res.jpg/1280px-M104_ngc4594_sombrero_galaxy_hi-res.jpg

Being able to see the galactic center helps one to visualize where the "gods" live. Sophia emanated from our own galactic center as a plasma stream. However, She lost Her tether and ended up plunging into our planet. Much to our good fortune. Now, if the majority of us could avail ourselves of that loving Wisdom, this planet and its Humans/Anthropos would be what is being dreamt for them. And all of the entangled "alien" DNA would receive a quantum entangled "upgrade". It is all part of the cosmic plan folks. We have been kinda distracted but, eyes on the prize will get us there. Heads out of the sand would assist that process greatly.

Just a conspiracy theory, of course.:rolleyes:

[Cearna]

What an amazing image, yes it does explain this visually. Thank you for that.

Now I am once again going to introduce you to the concept of a being called Hunub Ku, a free spirit, who inhabits the Galactic centre. I first made his aquaintance in 2012, as I asked for the explanation of what was happening then, and his words, I put in writings on TOT, about the blue jelly like nano-crystals coming to us from the galactic centre to enhance our development. i have just asked him to come to enhance what we have just said. Please excuse any problems in writing, as I am doing this directly onto this post, not elsewhere , then copying and pasting.

Good evening to you Modwiz, I know and love your Sophia and we here in the Galactic Centre, hold this place dear to us, for it is part of what streams into the consciousness of those in your solar system as well as what we send out to the entire Milky way Galaxy as you call it. we are many and yet few as compared to how many do such a role as we do for this part of this Universe. We work in the minute yet this is such that it holds the mightiness of the entirety within the tiniest as you would call it "grain of sand".

Your race has only been a part of Earth for such a small part of time, but now you are asking to evolve and grow, and as from the small mustard seed, so grows the mustard plant, then from this humble place where we are, is where your own development as a race began. Your own Sophia, was the first child, of the mighty Karima, the Being from whom all springs forth in this entire Universe. Sophia, then is a Mother Creator, and you have sprung from her oriiginal children,

However, your species DNA has been tampered with, your time line has been tampered with, and some of the Almighty Gods. from the Highest of all Above have decided that, it is time for that to be remedied, because your Helix of a DNA, is somewhat of an abomination to them, yet it is not your fault. They wish to alter this situation before your geneticists along with some misdirected beings from other worlds create even more heinous crimes upon your own species. They came to your planet, uninvited, began Wars, and began to mate entire species of different DNA strands together, so now we are opening your planet to new horizons, but not without the elimination of some of the lesser Helical human beings, having to somehow be removed from coming back on their death. we never again will allow such flawed genes and DNA to continue for such a long period of time to not only perpetuate what should never have been into even further disintegration than before.

Your species on your planet should not ever be there, without a Soul and a Spirit, yet now there are so many on it living in a hive mid with no Soul and Spirit that we had to begin a vastly different Pathway for all on Earth, that is in it's early stages of change now. Those who cannot live within that change, must be removed elsewhere, This planet, occupies the Highest status of development within this entire Universe, since it is the most difficult to live on in a state of love, serenity, and joyousness whilst under a state of what some of the Gods express to Colleen as being "THe heavy planet". not from gravity, dear fiends, from the minerals within the rocks, that are needed to transmit and release the energies and life force that is put though your planet out to this entie sphere, beyond this Universe.

The lesser beings, on your planet, who came from other worlds and began to misappropriate your human bodies, have been mining and removing these necessary elements from the soil and rocks and are destabilising your entire planet, so something had to be done. Mother Earth and Sophia have their own agenda for Earth itself and are calling to it, many, many other rocks of necessity to replace your mainstream, energy lines, or you will all suffer shortly from lack of life force.

Those of you calling for the removal of unjustifiable mismanagement and deliberate misappropriation of minds and resources are not large enough in numbers nor loud enough in your voices as yet, so we keep sending to you more and more nano helix changes, to reinforce what has already been made available to you. What is given is more readily received by those who wish to become more of what this world has always taught humans to be - living monuments to their belief in becoming what they see is possible.

Call on me anytime Modwiz, I'm always available to those who wish to find what we in the Galactic Centre are willing to provide to you. Love be your strength, your all - together, you become more. I wish you well.

[modwiz]

What an amazing image, yes it does explain this visually. Thank you for that.

Now I am once again going to introduce you to the concept of a being called Hunub Ku, a free spirit, who inhabits the Galactic centre. I first made his aquaintance in 2012, as I asked for the explanation of what was happening then, and his words, I put in writings on TOT, about the blue jelly like nano-crystals coming to us from the galactic centre to enhance our development. i have just asked him to come to enhance what we have just said. Please excuse any problems in writing, as I am doing this directly onto this post, not elsewhere , then copying and pasting.

Good evening to you Modwiz, I know and love your Sophia and we here in the Galactic Centre, hold this place dear to us, for it is part of what streams into the consciousness of those in your solar system as well as what we send out to the entire Milky way Galaxy as you call it. we are many and yet few as compared to how many do such a role as we do for this part of this Universe. We work in the minute yet this is such that it holds the mightiness of the entirety within the tiniest as you would call it "grain of sand".

Your race has only been a part of Earth for such a small part of time, but now you are asking to evolve and grow, and as from the small mustard seed, so grows the mustard plant, then from this humble place where we are, is where your own development as a race began. Your own Sophia, was the first child, of the mighty Karima, the Being from whom all springs forth in this entire Universe. Sophia, then is a Mother Creator, and you have sprung from her oriiginal children,

However, your species DNA has been tampered with, your time line has been tampered with, and some of the Almighty Gods. from the Highest of all Above have decided that, it is time for that to be remedied, because your Helix of a DNA, is somewhat of an abomination to them, yet it is not your fault. They wish to alter this situation before your geneticists along with some misdirected beings from other worlds create even more heinous crimes upon your own species. They came to your planet, uninvited, began Wars, and began to mate entire species of different DNA strands together, so now we are opening your planet to new horizons, but not without the elimination of some of the lesser Helical human beings, having to somehow be removed from coming back on their death. we never again will allow such flawed genes and DNA to continue for such a long period of time to not only perpetuate what should never have been into even further disintegration than before.

Your species on your planet should not ever be there, without a Soul and a Spirit, yet now there are so many on it living in a hive mid with no Soul and Spirit that we had to begin a vastly different Pathway for all on Earth, that is in it's early stages of change now. Those who cannot live within that change, must be removed elsewhere, This planet, occupies the Highest status of development within this entire Universe, since it is the most difficult to live on in a state of love, serenity, and joyousness whilst under a state of what some of the Gods express to Colleen as being "THe heavy planet". not from gravity, dear fiends, from the minerals within the rocks, that are needed to transmit and release the energies and life force that is put though your planet out to this entie sphere, beyond this Universe.

The lesser beings, on your planet, who came from other worlds and began to misappropriate your human bodies, have been mining and removing these necessary elements from the soil and rocks and are destabilising your entire planet, so something had to be done. Mother Earth and Sophia have their own agenda for Earth itself and are calling to it, many, many other rocks of necessity to replace your mainstream, energy lines, or you will all suffer shortly from lack of life force.

Those of you calling for the removal of unjustifiable mismanagement and deliberate misappropriation of minds and resources are not large enough in numbers nor loud enough in your voices as yet, so we keep sending to you more and more nano helix changes, to reinforce what has already been made available to you. What is given is more readily received by those who wish to become more of what this world has always taught humans to be - living monuments to their belief in becoming what they see is possible.

Call on me anytime Modwiz, I'm always available to those who wish to find what we in the Galactic Centre are willing to provide to you. Love be your strength, your all - together, you become more. I wish you well.


Thank you Colleen for delivering that message. I felt it.

[modwiz]

This man, Andeas Moritz is the same man who spoke about suncreens in another thread. Here is he is speaking about cancer and genetics or, more correctly, answering a question posed to him about the theory.


Some cancers may have a genetic factor to them. But many people think that all cancers have a genetic link to them. In this interview from 2009, Andreas Moritz discusses genetics and whether or not there is a direct link to cancers. Find out what really might be going on and what you can do to protect yourself! Do you think cancers are genetic? Watch this!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5XzFQt8TFQ

[Maggie]

I have decided to pitch a cyber tent here at TOT to post thoughts and opinions. I'll call it Rhosgobel.

there are many inspiring thoughts and opinions welling out from posts on this forum.

I'd like to share my confidence that our imagination is creating our experience in real time. Recently my faith in the goodness meant for me is really being supported by my memory, my day to day experience and also by the woo woo of what I "find" are valuable inspirers for me. I perceive my holographic experience is becoming clearer and brighter as I bring in pieces that I CHOOSE to include of what is available form thoughts and opinions i encounter.

We all know that a hologram is able to be cut up and each piece will be a slightly less vivid whole. The opposite is true...the more pieces the brighter. I think that what I have studied and what I do practice is bringing my heaven to my earth. I am taking in more layers of complexity in one way and simplifying in another. All the little bits are falling into a fairly straight forward pattern....what I think and dwell on happens. This is so wonderful that it brings me to more and more certainty that I may trust the Universe is offering a grand shiftiness for us.

I started re-reading a 1982 book KenCarey's The Starseed Transmissions. I read it first in 1982. Maybe I have not read it since? here is the pdf:

KenCarey's The Starseed Transmissions (http://planetwaves.net/pdf/KenCareyTheStarseedTransmissions.pdf)

In Atlanta in the 70's and 80's, my favorite place was the Sphinx Metaphysical bookstore next to Ansley Mall. I can still smell the incense laden atmosphere and recall the luxury of buying books that were sometimes GREAT, sometimes not quite right. Owning these books felt like wealth. This wonderful place was a destination outside my neighborhood. There were neighborhoods beyond Inman park where I lived that were awkward to get to by bus so the getting there was a journey like a pilgrimage. I had a car after 1975 and that is remembered so vividly...Freedom! My wonderful VW bug meant great freedom for me. Once I graduated form nursing school, after 1978, I could buy all the books I chose and I bought countless books there. I have been really fortunate and i am feeling this vividly and superimposing this on my present situation. My state of being is seeming very pink and refreshed.

The past is not gone though the store I recall is closed now and I am reading Kindle books and Internet books. The power is I can so easily pull up these wonderful feelings from my past AND MAKE THE PRESENT THAT REFLECTION. So, Iwant to share that I am seeing my reality as having layers like overlays that animators use. Just by memory, I can overlay the feelings I loved on my present day life.

This use of feeling to replicate the feeling means that when I dwell in satisfaction, it proliferates.
My herstory COULD as easily be sad or other feelings but it ISN"T and that is my tool.
There really is the availability of my choice to feel what I choose and see it come back as fact.

The education I took in by all that I read did help me learn to use my memory for a happy purpose and appreciate the inner meanings of concepts as metaphor and symbol. They influence so life seems dreamy and more fluid.

The Starseed transmission reminds that we are hung on the cross of time and space. This is what Neville says also...We are the crucified ones. This is what we chose about being material. Now we are deeply inspiriting the material and this is a blessing/curse choice. We are necessarily on the cross by our presence here.

The whole point is to master the experience FOR god for good. So many have said We are the Christ. Neville declares that God is eternal (omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent) and we are experiencing being Christ. Neville emphasizes that Christ can have a state of being (in time and space). God is our own wonderful human imagination playing a part as man.

Today, reading this book again, I can see that the ideas in the Starseed transmission still ring my bells.


THE SHADOW OF FUTURE CREATION
Since the first breath of God at the beginning of all the
worlds, it was preordained that Creation would exist
within a rhythm of expansion and contraction. Eventually
there would come a time when the physical universe
would stop expanding and begin to contract. The Hindus
refer to this process as the in-breathing and out-breathing
of Brahma, the process through which God breathes out
all of Creation, and then breathes it all back in again.
At this point in linear time, we are very close to the
middle of the cycle, soon to reach the exact mid-point between
the out-breath and the in-breath of God. The
universe began to reach this mid-point as unicellular
organisms were emerging on the Earth, but the exact
mid-point is yet to be attained. It will coincide with what
has come to be called the Second Coming of Christ.
When any vibrational system reverses the momentum
of its direction, as a pendulum does at the uppermost
point of its swing, there is a moment of complete rest
before it resumes its movement in the opposite direction.
Since rest, or the total cessation of movement, constitutes
the opposite of time, there is at the precise moment
of its occurrence, a micro-interval of non-time, a moment
of eternity. This is the same interval of non-time
that occurs many times each second as the atoms of the
physical world vibrate back and forth. This is an opening
into the nagual, a doorway into the Presence from which
all Life-energy springs. From Chapter 3 KenCarey's The Starseed Transmissions (http://planetwaves.net/pdf/KenCareyTheStarseedTransmissions.pdf)


The mystery is how we walk into the mystery of eternity each moment and bring forth its appearance.
My present faith AND my experience are definitely both becoming ever more in love with the mystery and lightening up. My sense of humor is growing and I know my reality may be beautiful, supportive and full of joyful experiences. This IMO is what we all can have with the plan for NOW. Free will is not infinite in "time/space" but we can change things. The changeable is space and time bound.... Also, the plan reveals the trajectory for resurrection. Neville always said that Crucifixion without resurrection is unthinkable in the archetypal metaphor of the the Christ experience.

Here is a story from Neville. I highly recommend his stories over others I could mention.


THE CRUCIFIXION



The crucifixion is the history of man. Our human history begins with birth and ends with death. In Divine history it begins with death and ends with birth. There is a complete reversal of these histories. Here we begin in the womb and end in the tomb: but in Divine history we begin in the tomb and awaken in the womb where we are born. Now here in this fantastic drama I think we have misconceived the part of Jesus Christ and made of him an idol, and having made of him an idol he hides from us the true God.

Let us turn to the Book of Luke 18:31-34: "And taking the twelve he said to them; 'Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written of the Son of man by the prophets will be accomplished. For he will be delivered to the Gentiles, and will be mocked and shamefully treated and spit upon; they will scourged him and kill him, and on the third day he will rise.' But they understood none of these things; this saying was hid from them, and they did not grasp what was said." We are told that no one understood him. Now believe this; I am speaking to you, as I have tried every night, from experience. I am not theorizing. I have no interest whatsoever in trying to set up some workable philosophy of life, I really haven't. If I made my exit tonight it would make no difference to me personally, maybe to my wife and my child, my family, - but not to me.

This drama begins with the crucifixion.

"Unless I die thou canst not live;
But if I die I shall arise again and thou with me.
Wouldest thou die for one who never died
For thee, or ever die for one who had not died for thee."
(Blake Jer. Plate 96)

This is the story of every being born of woman. No child in the world could cross the threshold that admits to conscious life unaided by the death of God. It is God's purpose to give us himself as though there were no others in the world. Just God and you, God and I. Believe this, really. If you believe it then the most unbelievable Gospel in the world becomes possible and believable; and it takes the son to reveal it to be true.

Now this is the story as revealed to me. You may think, - well now that was just a simple, wonderful, - exciting, - yes! – just a dream. May I tell you it was not a dream. It was an experience more vivid than this moment here in this room. For true vision is far more alive than anything you have ever experienced in this world, - but anything. This night in question I was walking with an enormous number as though the whole humanity walked in a certain direction; and I was one of the unnumbered. As I walked with them, - they were all dressed in this very colorful Arabic colors; and a voice shouted out of the blue and the voice said: "And God walks with them." A woman to my right, I would say in her thirties, maybe forty, a most attractive Arab; and she asked the voice: "If God walks with us where is he?" And the voice answered from the blue, - "At your side." She took it as the whole vast world takes these things, - literally. And turning to her side she looked into my eyes and became hysterical, it struck her so funny. It was the funniest thing she had ever heard. "God walks with us?" And she turned to a simple man with all of his frailties, all of his weaknesses, one she knew well; and having looked into his face, having heard the voice, - she said: "What! – Neville God?" And the voice replied: "God laid himself down within you to sleep and as he slept he dreamed a dream, he dreamed" – and I completed the sentence: "He was dreaming he was me. How else would I be in this world if he didn't dream? And you awake from sheer emotionalism.

And may I tell you this is the sensation of the crucifixion. It's the most delightful sensation in the world; it is not painful. My hands became vortexes; my head a vortex; my feet vortexes; my side a vortex. And here I was driven into this body on the bed through my emotionalism, held by six vortexes; my hand, my feet, my head and my side. And the delight, the sheer joy of being driven upon this cross, this body! So I speak from experience; it is not a painful act. But it happened in the beginning of time. This was only a memory image returning; when I was about to awake. But in that interval, - how long, - who knows? The Bible speaks of three days between the crucifixion and the resurrection; but that is all symbolism. Blake calls it six thousand years. He said:

"I behold the Visions of my deadly Sleep of Six Thousand Years
Dazzling around thy skirts like a Serpent of precious stones and gold.
I know it is my Self, O my Divine Creator and Redeemer."
(Jer. Plate 96)

Here we turn to the drama of this coming Friday all of Christian churches will re-enact; and they differ. Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 gave the last cry on the cross as the quotation from Psalms 22:1 "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" John 19:20 gives it in the cry "It is finished." Luke 23:46 substitutes the 31st Psalm, 5th verse for the 22nd Psalm: because he was using Mark's script. But he elaborates on Mark's script and he substituted Psalm 31:5 for Psalm 22:1, and this is what he quotes: "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!" This is the verse: "Into thy hand I commit my spirit; thou hast redeemed me, O Lord, faithful God." He kept his faith, for he told me:

"Unless I die thou canst not live;
But if I die I shall arise again and thou with me."

There came the very act of crucifixion that was in itself resurrection. Yes, - an interval of time in between, no question about it.

But may I tell you, no one in this world can fail. As quoted in Romans 6:5: "For if we have been united with Christ in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his." Everyone in this world will be resurrected; but it takes an interval of time with all the blows in the world to make the immortal garment.

Now listen to this carefully. It has been given to me and you take it for what it is worth. The promise of this begins in Genesis 17:19, the promise of an infant called Isaac: and the whole vast world has the strangest concept of Isaac. The Lord begat Isaac. Isaac is to be bought, not as the result of generation but the shaping of the begotten. Here is God the unbegotten shaping himself upon us; and when he completes that shape and it is perfect in his eyes then we are born from Above. So Isaac is the shaping of the unbegot, but God is not begotten, he is begetting himself on man, the individual man. And when he begot himself in me to his satisfaction, I was born from Above and went through the entire series in the interval of nine months, - judged by Caesar's calendar. How many thousands of years prior to that I do not know, I cannot tell you. I would if I knew for I have no secrets; when I get it I tell you, but I do not know, the veil has not been lifted to that extent. But I do know that when it pleased him, that which he begot in me, then it took nine months for the entire series of these mystical experiences as described in Scripture to completely unfold within me. So I can tell you it is going to happen to you. And so there's no time. It took nine months from the moment of the Birth but when that Birth takes place it is all in God's keeping and you and I are put through the furnace of affliction. Let no one tell you that you are not going to, Isaiah 14:24: "As I have planned, so shall it be, as I have purposed, so shall it stand." And no one will thwart it, - but no one. I am inclined to believe that in spite of the pain, in spite of all the things that man plots and plans in this world, there is a definite period. The Book of Habakkuk tells me it is, but they won't tell me what the period is. He says: "The vision has it's own appointed hour; it ripens, it will flower. If it be long then wait for it is sure, it will not be late." If it will not be late and the vision has it's own appointed hour, well then, whether Blake is right or someone else is right, I do not know. But I assure you the last section takes only nine months, even though you linger for years beyond that nine months.

For you came into your inheritance at that third experience; but the glory of your heavenly inheritance cannot become actual, or is fully realized in the individual, so long as he is still in the body. The moment he takes off that veil, called the body, he is clothed in that garment that God, and God alone, made. God was actually shaping himself upon this garment, without my consent, without my knowledge; molding that unbegotten Being that He is and giving me Himself. So when He succeeded in giving me Himself, it satisfied Him, that immortal garment that He would wear; so He wears it for his name is "I AM".

And may I tell you in all of my experiences I never had a change of identity, - never. I have always been aware of being "I am." I have never had any feeling of being other than who I am. And some thing was taking place in me, and it was God. As we are told: Phil: 1:6: "He who began a good work in me will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ." Jesus Christ is a profession that is God and he will not stop it until he brings it to Jesus Christ in you. But we have taken Jesus Christ and made of him an image, an idol; and having made of him an idol he now hides from us the true God.

It is God, the only God, that is actually shaping himself upon you. And when that is shaped upon you, - this is a form, a mold, - but this cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven; this is flesh and blood. It takes this to mold it upon it, for what is being molded upon it is God, the unbegotten, and God being Spirit he is molding himself as spirit, the immortal you. And then you, God, are clothed. Well, how could you clothe God in form? He is clothing himself in a shape and that is you, - so he begets us. But it began with the crucifixion. The crucifixion does not end the drama, it begins the drama. So every one becomes a breathing, living, conscious being because God died for him.

It's the mystery of life through death, as told us in John 12:24: "Unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit." It has to fall into the earth and die, and this is the earth (the body) in God's kingdom. And God falls into this earth and dies, he forgets that He is God in His belief that He is man. God actually becomes man that man may become God; and molds Himself; this Unbegotten Being upon man. And when He is satisfied with that molding process, it is in the eye of God that it's perfect; therefore, if it is perfect, then God is born in man. So God actually gives Himself to us, to each of, as if there were no others in the world, - just God and you, God and I. Believe it. The whole story of the Gospel is this story.

So the crucifixion, from my own personal experience, is not as the churches depict it. The sorrow comes in between; that interval be it 6000 years, I do not know. But in that interval we have to be molded, as we are told in Isaiah 48:10,11. "I have tried you in the furnace of affliction. For my own sake, for my own sake, I do it." For there is no other way in the world to bring me into that state of perfection and to weave me into an immortal body to receive God Himself as my own being. So I went through all the fires of affliction, and these fiery, fiery ordeals. So don't be concerned.

"Whom God has afflicted for Secret Ends.
He comforts and Heals and calls them Friends."
(E. Gospel) Blake

When you and I enter God's Golgotha, as we are told: "And when they came to the place which is called 'The skull', there they crucified him." (Luke 23:33) The word "skull", which is translated in the definition of Golgotha, - another definition is the "Holy Sepulcher". So now we know what the Holy Sepulcher is. It is our own wonderful human skull, that's where he is crucified. But he is also nailed upon the cross. He is nailed through the feet and pierced on the side. Now here John gives so much time to the piercing of the side. He does not give the cry of dereliction: "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me." John only claims: "It is finished" and then the soldiers shaft into the right side and out came blood and water. And down through the centuries they are trying in some way to explain it. They can't explain it on anything that is biological, save that a birth always has the phenomena of blood and water. When a child is born the water is broken and there is a flowing of blood and water.

This is birth. To understand it we go back to the 31st Psalm: "Into thy hand I commit my spirit; thou hast redeemed me, O Lord, faithful God." He promised it and He did it. That is only a symbol of one's birth, which is redemption. So I say to you, don't weep when you see it, rejoice, it was God's sacrifice of himself because he desired to individualize himself in unnumbered garments, in all of us. God can't beget anything other than God, so we are told in the 82nd Psalm: "God has taken his place in the divine council in the midst of the gods he holds judgment." On God in the midst of gods – all is God. He is asking and begetting this Unbegotten Being. The cue is given us in the Book of Hebrews 5:6. It is called by a different name, it is called Melchizedek. He has no father, no mother, no genealogy. He is telling you who he is. Everyone who is Born from Above, - because God succeeded in giving Himself to that individual, - that individual has no genealogy. He is God the father. Believe me.

How could he give himself without knowing His son? I tell you the whole vast world of humanity is symbolized in a single youth, - called David. David is the whole world of humanity, in the language of symbolism. And the day will come in the second mystical experience in the nine month period, and here you look at David; and David is you r son and you know it more surely then you know anything in the world. There is no uncertainty when you look into his eyes and you see David and he calls you "My Lord, my father." You know for the first time who you really are. And you turn to the world and you tell them what happened. But you are told, as I quoted earlier from Luke 18:34: "They understood none of these things; this saying was hid from them, and they did not grasp what was said."

How can you persuade the individual that the day will come that even this very moment I could take the most orthodox Jew in the world, - if I went to Israel tonight, - and talked to the head Rabbi and asked him if he feels any relationship to David. He would say: "Only as the greatest of the kings of Israel; but relationship as to myself, No." But he respects the great king of Israel, and hopes some day to rebuild the dynasty that is now gone. But he could not feel a relationship. And if I, in his eye, a total stranger, a gentile, would tell him I am his father he would spit in my face. To him that would be blasphemous; and yet I could tell him I am his father. I'll go further, I'll tell you, you are his father, and the day is coming it will be revealed to you. And when the whole vast world is completed and God's work is finished; and he has given himself to every being in the world, - because he is the father of David.

To give me himself He has to give me fatherhood of David, - not just fatherhood. There is no need to give me fatherhood and not the father of his son. His son, yes. Psalm 2:7 "Thou art my son, today I have begotten thee." Then he takes this only begotten son to prove his gift to us by giving us that son as our son. And you look right into his eyes and he calls you "father," he calls you "Adonai, my lord."

I tell you the day will come when you and I will be the same father of the same child, everlasting eternal youth; that God in the beginning put into the mind of man and molded man into the likeness of himself. Read it in Eccl. 3:11. "God has put eternity into man's mind; yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end." The word translated "eternity" is the Hebrew word Olam. The Olam is translated, youth, lad, stripling. Listen to the words and see how we know who he is. The king wants to find out the identity of this fantastic youth that conquered the entire enemy of Israel, - he brings down the giant. So the king says to his lieutenant: "'Abner, whose son is that youth?' And Abner said, 'As your soul lives, O king, I cannot tell.' And the king said, 'Inquire whose son the stripling is.'" No one knows. Now the stripling comes in with the head of the giant in his hands, the head of Goliath, the enemy of Israel. And the king said to him: "'Whose son are you, young man?' And David answered, 'I am the son of your servant Jesse, the Bethlehemite.'"

Now prophecy was made in I Samuel 17:2.5. "That the father of such a lad would be set free in Israel." Not the lad; the lad is buried in every being in the world. But the father of that lad, who knows he is the father, he is set free in heaven, free in the New Israel. So when one knows he is the father by actual experience; at that moment he is free in Israel. The 6000 years of turmoil is over for him; but David is still to be redeemed, to be discovered in the minds of all. And everyone is going to find him, and finding him they will find the relationship of himself to that lad; and we all will be one and our name one when the curtain comes down on the final act of this marvelous play.

Blake said: "Do not let yourself be intimidated by the horror of the world. Everything is ordered and correct and must fulfill its destiny in order to attain perfection."

Everything is ordered, everything is perfect. God planned it just as it has come out and as he willed it, it will be consummated, and no tyrant in the world is going to stop it. He will take all the tyrants in the world and use them in the fulfillment of his purpose, as we are told in Proverbs 16:4: "The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble." Everything, not just a few. For it takes the wicked being to cross your path to add a little more fire to bring you closer into the image of God. If it takes many to cross it, they will cross your path.

What man looking at this garment we are wearing now could ever see him in the image of God. But this is not what is molded; this is only a form on which he is molding himself. When he has finished the molding then comes this fantastic experience in you; and you awake in a tomb. And the tomb all along was a womb; that was where you were crucified and you didn't know it. And one day you awake in a tomb and the tomb is your own wonderful skull; and that is the holy sepulcher.

This week thousands of pilgrims will go to Jerusalem, to the holy sepulcher. And some priests, quite innocently, will point out a place and say "That's it, that's where he was buried." He wasn't buried there at all. There is no holy place in Jerusalem. The holy place is your own wonderful skull; that is the holy sepulcher, that is where he is buried. And that is where he is sound asleep dreaming with you these visions of eternity until you awake. When you awake you are he and he is your very own being. It is his purpose to give you himself, and there is no way in eternity that God can give you himself and prove it, unless he also gives me his most precious possession in the world, - and that is his son. He doesn't give me his son to walk the street with me as a companion; he gives me his son as my son. So I look right into the eyes of the son of God and know him to be my son.

Then I wonder, how could this be? Here a man a few years old, weak, limited, with all the frailties of the world, all the weaknesses of the flesh, and yet, God so succeeded in his purpose for me, that he, the unbegotten gave me himself; therefore, I am unbegotten. Though I seemingly had a beginning in time, with the gift of God, the unbegotten, I now cease to be begotten. I have no genealogy; I have no father, - I am father, - the father of his only begotten son. I tell you this is a mystery. But mysteries of this nature are not matters to be kept secret but truths that are mysterious in nature. They are not things to be hidden. The minute they happen to you, you tell them to encourage every being in the world that in spite of the furnaces of the moment to continue, keep on moving, for you are moving anyway. But the end: - listen to the words: "O God, faithful Lord." He has kept his faith, he promised me in the beginning he would do it. "Thou hast redeemed me." And then sent me through furnaces without my consent, without my permission.

Take the story of Job. Here is one subjected to all the most horrible experiments in the world produced by God. And in the end he said (Job 42:5), "I heard of thee by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees thee." He sees the only thing in the world is reveal God to himself, because God is invisible to the world; but his son reveals God. "No one knows who the Son is except the Father, or who the Father is except the Son, and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him." So, how will I ever know God? When his son comes in to my world and looks me in the face and calls me "father", then I know God.

And yet in spite of this may I tell you, the day will come you will still be taken into the presence of Infinite Love. And you don't have to ask who you are or anyone in the world who he is. As you stand in the presence of Infinite Love he embraces you; and you know who he is and who you are; for at that moment of the embrace you become one with the body of Infinite Love. Yes, that God is Almighty we know. But almightiness and omniscience are but aptitudes of God. God himself is Love, absolute Love, and I can't describe it except to tell you it is man. When you look at him, Infinite Love, and he embraces you and you are lost in the body of God again, one with it, it is your body. And then he comes to the final journey. "And now I have told you before it takes place, so that when it does take place, you may believe." (John 14:29)

So I share with you my experience; and remember it because it is going to happen to you. When it happens to you, you will not differ from any other being in the world to whom it has not yet happened. But it is going to happen to every being in the world, but you will be one with those to whom it has already happened. And when it happens, - it may happen to you tonight, - you'll wear the garment for a little while and then in the normal process of time you will take it off. Then at that moment of the discarding of this mold that God used to mold Himself, you will be one with the gods. Your entire inheritance is to inherit the kingdom of heaven. Believe me.

What that garment looks like, I can't describe it. I can describe the sensation, but it doesn't make sense to anyone in the world. But the final act, when he ascends into heaven, and you ascend and live, - I can only describe it as the seraphim. A golden, golden liquid being – and you ascend as a serpent. It doesn't make sense does it? A human serpent, as described in Isaiah 6:2. The face, the hands, the feet were human but he couldn't describe the glory of the body. It is simply golden liquid light. Because in the resurrection man is above the organization of sex. This garment he used to mold himself and to give man himself.

Blake brought it out in his wonderful poem called "The Gates of Paradise"

"When weary man enters his cave, he meets his savior in the grave;
some find a female garment there, and some a male, woven with care,
Lest the Sexual Garments sweet should grow a devouring winding sheet.
One Dies! Alas! The Living and the Dead, One is slain, and One is fled."

If this is slain, the mold, it is over. No need for the mold anymore, for he wove among this divided image, male and female, the garment that is immortal, which is above the organization of sex. So he discards then this divided image as far as that individual goes. He is now clothed in his immortal eternal body and no need for the divided image on which God molded himself and gave Himself to us; that being, being Jesse, which means "I AM". The same name as Jehovah, which is "I AM". The same name as Jesus, which is "I AM".

So I tell you that fantastic mystery of crucifixion. It is true. It begins the play of God. If I went to a play tonight and saw a three hour movie before me on the screen, - I could, as many people do, misconstrue the role of the actor and make of him, as people do here of a movie actor or stage actor, - make of him an idol, ask him for his signature. Do all kinds of things that make of him an idol. And then, making of him an idol, he hides from me the message of the play. Here is a play condensed into a few hours that took six thousand years to unfold. And so man's misconception of Jesus Christ has made of Jesus Christ in the eyes of all Christians, an idol; and that idol hides from that man who holds him up as an idol, the true message of God.

God's purpose is to give himself to us without an intermediary. No intermediary between God and you. Actually he is begetting himself; on you, because He is without origin, the unbegotten. When he begets himself in you and gives himself to you, completely individualized as you, - and you have no origin, and the reason you have no origin is the child, and you see God's son as your son. Then you will know who you are: the being without father, without mother.

It's a strange thing to say that I a little thing a few years old, - that some fantastic mystery could take place there and here is this garment which began 58 years ago; and yet on this garment, and the garment which undoubtedly began that preceded it, something was being molded that was unbegotten! And when it was completely knitted to its perfection, and then I wore the garment that was molded on me, with all the pain that I went through; that I was the being who molded it. And the being who molded it is unbegotten. So the garment I wear, the immortal garment, though begotten, it is being worn now by the unbegotten, God the father. You dwell upon it.

If what I have told you this night seems strange, - if you are here for the first time, or maybe you are here for the hundredth time, it still seems strange, - but it is true. Everything I have told you is true, I have spoken to you from my own spiritual experiences. We are all on a fabulous pilgrimage moving towards some invisible shrine and God is awakening in us. The world round about us will go on in their journey; and when we are singled out one by one they will laugh at the very thought that he who died a normal death as any other man was that exit, - his final exit; and she by that experience, - do they talk about it, eternalize it? They smile and continue the journey. Perfectly all right. But I tell you, you too will be called out of the pilgrimage and the voice will speak out of the vast sky: "God walks with them." And someone will question the voice, and the voice will answer, "Yes" and they will turn to you and they will be just as hysterical as they were with me. And the voice in the depths of your own soul will tell you: "God laid himself down within you to sleep, and as he slept he dreamed a dream, he is dreaming that he is you.

And then you will feel the wonderful thrill of being nailed upon this body. But O what a thrill! These whirling vortexes, no pain just joy, ecstatic joy. And then you are on the bed alone and the journey in the soul continues, but they are moving on, but you cannot rest from that moment on. Everything changes. You see people as you saw them and still they are different. You know their future, you know what they are destined to be; that everyone is destined to have the experience; and to remember in that ecstatic moment where unnumbered ages before he was nailed upon the cross through God's love.

"Unless I die thou canst not live;
But if I die I shall arise again and thou with me
And if God dieth not for Man and giveth not himself
Eternally for Man, Man could not exist."

And this is the wonderful mystery of life through death. Now here is our story for you this night.

The Ken carey book is well aligned with Neville Goddard. Both these books use Archetypes of Judaic and Christian tradition. The ideas are representing esoteric aspects of these spiritual teachings, not exoteric. So, metaphor and psychology explain in symbol. This is not "historic" or dated material. It describes an apotheosis of individuals knowing without doubt what is what and who is whom.

a·poth·e·o·sis
əˌpäTHēˈōsəs/
noun
the highest point in the development of something; culmination or climax.
"his appearance as Hamlet was the apotheosis of his career"
the elevation of someone to divine status; deification.

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From a Ken Carey interview


we have two parents. All biological life is the product of the intermingling of Earth and Sun. In reality, the Earth is stardust, the Sun is a star. And it's the starlight and the stardust that entwine and literally form our bodies. Our mind-brain circuitry, our bio-circuitry is far more sophisticated and advanced than any computer and in our citadel of awareness we have the opportunity to bring in the intelligence of the Sun and the intelligence of the Earth. To me this is not metaphor. These are intelligent beings as are all creatures, all life. We have the challenge and the opportunity to blend in ourselves, in our human bio-circuitry, not only starlight and stardust but time and eternity, spirit and matter, energy and structure. It's awesome. This is art. This is real art and we're not here on this planet because we did something wrong. We're here because we're creators and this is the coolest art form that has ever been invented and we want to play with it. We want to sculpt with it. This is our planet for expressing tangibly what exists in spirit. It's a different understanding of self than what we were taught. Many people have a bad self-image and it's inhibiting their success in life, so they try to reprogram themselves with a better self-image. To me that's like replacing the brass bars of the cage with bars of gold. The real challenge is to let Earth and Sun define us, let the planet define us, let the Life Force define us, moment to moment. We are literally hologramatic projections of the Universe and of the Universe's intelligence. We have the ability to not only monitor that intelligence in the Universal sea of information in which we exist but to bring it through in our language, in our art, in our architecture, in our every expression. I get passionate about this.

Douglas Gillies: Are you saying that to the extent we have a creative capacity we are able to bend light so that we can change the hologram by exerting ourselves.

Ken Carey: I agree with you, only I would say instead of 'exerting ourselves', we have to relax into who we are. When we've relaxed into that beingness, then the light bends and the world changes, ecosystems are healed and people are healed.http://www.douglasgillies.com/interviews/ken_carey.html

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I am reproducing this post here because the original was in a members only thread.


There are other ways to consider a hologram as quite natural and part of how quantum particles are given patterns to occupy. First, let us do some word repair. Matrix are the organic patterns from the mind of the Mother. The false reality overlay we saw in the movie Matrix is really the Patrix. The demi-urge is always parasitizing and uses the Natural framework of the Matrix to support its dead concepts.

The hologram of the Matrix is the dream of Sophia we live within and we should not be under misunderstandings that dreams are not reality. Dreamscapes are the coherence that allows quantun particles to have an objective obsevation which we can then insert, or dream along, or own creations/reality. The dreams of the gods are the coherence of the observable Universe. Holograms reveal their fractality as we peer deeper into them and perceive the same "stuff". The seeming fact that one part of a hologram still contains the whole is what fractality is all about. The is nothing unreal about any of this including birthing a child. Programs are artificial intelligence and it is a copying of how the organic Universe works.

Once again, there is an artificial construct using the organic one to support it, as it could not stand on its own. Like a vine on a tree. The Patrix has been around for awhile and is core to the parasitic culture. I believe the mystics of India and their perception of Maya is a conflation of the Patrix encrusting the Matrix. Whether they parsed out the difference is unclear to me.

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This is a fairly serious article here: Armageddon Approaches


The Western public doesn’t know it, but Washington and its European vassals are convincing Russia that they are preparing to attack. Eric Zuesse reports on a German newspaper leak of a Bundeswehr decision to declare Russia to be an enemy nation of Germany.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/06/09/germany-preparing-for-war-against-russia.html
This is the interpretation that some Russian politicians themselves have put on the NATO military bases that Washington is establishing on Russia’s borders.

Washington might intend the military buildup as pressure on President Putin to reduce Russian opposition to Washington’s unilateralism. However, it reminds some outspoken Russians such as Vladimir Zhirinovsky of Hitler’s troops on Russia’s border in 1941.

Zhirinovsky is the founder and leader of Russia’s Liberal Democratic Party and a vice chairman of the Russian parliament. In a confrontation with the editor of a German newspaper, Zhirinovsky tells him that German troops again on Russia’s border will provoke a preventive strike after which nothing will remain of German and NATO troops. “The more NATO soldiers in your territory, the faster you are going to die. To the last man. Remove NATO from your territory!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQm8L8d8uDc

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has expressed his frustration with Washington’s reliance on force and coercion instead of diplomacy. It is reckless for Washington to convince Russia that diplomacy is a dead end without promise. When the Russians reach that conclusion, force will confront force.

That last sentence is a sobering one.

The main problem is people. If I know about it, and thousands to perhaps millions of others in the USA know it, why does the main bulk of the population remain ignorant? To be blunt, it is a choice. The choice of where to get news. The choice to limit where one gets their news. The choice to ignore a friend or family member who informs about such news and gets labeled as conspiracy theorist.


Americans need to wake up to the dangerous situation that Washington has created, but I doubt they will. Most wars happen without the public’s knowledge until they happen. The main function of the American left-wing is to serve as a bogyman with which to scare conservatives about the country’s loss of morals, and the main function of conservatives is to create fear and hysteria about immigrants, Muslims, and Russians. There is no sign that Congress is aware of approaching Armageddon, and the media consists of propaganda.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/22/armageddon-approaches-paul-craig-roberts/

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I like Max Igan. He has been doing weekly shows, when he is in season, for years. He has focused on waking people up with reporting on what is happening in front of our faces, largely unnoticed, and some solutions for meeting the challenges before us. Needless to say, his frustration does show in his words sometimes and understandably so. Here is his latest show, Surviving The Matrix, and he opens with the Pokeman Go phenomenon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9sbF9nDPOY

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A quick thought to share here. How we juxtapose opposites is important for proper cognition and seeing "the field" that reality occurs in between these poles. One example of poor juxtapostioning is "good vs. evil". The proper pole structure is good/bad. The proper pole positioning for evil or efil, if one realizes that v's and f's are interchangeable, is Life/Efil. Evil is anit-life and parasitic. Bad is largely subjective, even though it is a hugely important subjective stance.

When we have our opposites correct, cognitive dissonance is is more easily avoided.

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I'm liking the "Russian Trump." Of course I hope war never occurs between Russia and Europe, but the quickest way to get NATO to stop screwing around with Russia is to make the European people aware of just how serious the situation is, and this guy is doing a great job of that. No one can blame Russia for standing up for its own security.

[Aragorn]

I'm liking the "Russian Trump." Of course I hope war never occurs between Russia and Europe, but the quickest way to get NATO to stop screwing around with Russia is to make the European people aware of just how serious the situation is, and this guy is doing a great job of that. No one can blame Russia for standing up for its own security.

The problem as I see it, is that people in the EU tend to be slow to react. They will only come out of their shells when it's already too late, which is probably down to not caring about anything unless they perceive it as a threat to their personal safety.

You also have to keep in mind that Europe has been indoctrinated with Acronymian propaganda ever since the start of the (original) cold war, so Europe still tends to think of the Russians as "the bad guys" and of the Acronymians as "the good guys". Ludicrous, but that's the way it is. And then I'm not even going to get into the CIA sleeper cells which have been (and still are) buried within the territory of the EU — cfr. Operation Gladio (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio).

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Another thoughtful sitdown with a good group. Shane is not in this one so more people may choose to watch it. Very good thoughts exchanged and I wish my voice was a part of it, lol. I felt it could have used some of my irreverence and coyote energy to liven it up a bit. It is heart felt and intelligently expressed with good moments of some passion. Lily Earthling was particularly animated when she spoke. Neils Kunze had some very good things to say about Nature and interacting with it. These people are forming the seeds of a real starting point to break free from the Patrix.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfmSaDxnXbs

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https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13669603_1033149206807466_8908144405541022287_n.jp g?oh=89ca052724327ec46f4fd3f45674721e&oe=585BD578

[Dreamtimer]

Gotta catch 'em all! Hey, do they sell the poke balls on eBay?:ttr:

[Aragorn]

Gotta catch 'em all! Hey, do they sell the poke balls on eBay?:ttr:

Only the second-hand ones, to be paid for in cash with cold, hard Bitcoins. :p

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But I don't know where to find them! How can I buy poke balls if I don't know where to get the &*^%$# bitcoins?!!!:crazy:

My eyebrow!

[Cearna]

My shopping lady friends tells me they are now paying for someone else to go catch them for them instead, of doing the hard yakka.

[Dreamtimer]

My shopping lady friends tells me they are now paying for someone else to go catch them for them instead, of doing the hard yakka.

Are you serious?:omg:

I knew a guy named Kiran, from Australia. His fiancé was really into this Star Wars game that she played online and had cornered the market on some item that was needed to advance in the game and she literally made money by selling these virtual game supplies to other online gamers.

[Aragorn]

But I don't know where to find them! How can I buy poke balls if I don't know where to get the &*^%$# bitcoins?!!!:crazy:

My eyebrow!

I'll see your eyebrow and I raise you a chin. :hmm: :ttr:

[Dreamtimer]

Not by the hare of my...

Oh wait, that was a Rhosgobol Rabbit.;)

[Aragorn]

My shopping lady friends tells me they are now paying for someone else to go catch them for them instead, of doing the hard yakka.

My mother used to say that being insane doesn't hurt, or else there would be a lot of people suffering out there in the world. :p

[modwiz]

I'll see your eyebrow and I raise you a chin. :hmm: :ttr:

I'd double the chin but, have to eat a lot more.:ha:

[Cearna]

Where have you people been all my life - not catching poke balls that's for sure. :chrs:

[Aragorn]

Where have you people been all my life - not catching poke balls that's for sure. :chrs:



http://blog.lolhit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/The-Smart-Lolcat.jpeg

:ttr:

[modwiz]

I really like this one. Perfect look for the caption.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CofxD_DUMAAFwD9.jpg

[modwiz]

Wow. A young man with some serious passion and he is an astrologer. I think he is worth a listen to. He really goes for it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bflUfCehXpg

[modwiz]

I have had a very grueling schedule in the real world that has sapped my energy and led to little contribution to this thread. I will look to ramp it up a little bit. I have to say the continuing grim news makes it hard to keep a conversation going. The Neo-Con politics of the USA is disgusting, childish and creates problems where none have to be. The lying and hypocrisy are enough to turn the stomach of anyone who is truly awake and aware. This article from ZeroHedge is an example of that.

Trump Was Right? Obama Admits US Must Partner With Russia To Beat ISIS


Well this is a little awkward. Following John Kerry's "seeking cooperation" apology tour to Moscow, President Obama appears to be following the path that Donald Trump has suggested as Military.com reports, Obama said Thursday at the Pentagon that The United States must try to broker a deal with Russia to coordinate military operations in Syria and drive the Islamic State group out of that country.

Some verbiage from the semi-practical minds in the White House above but, the usual two-headed monster of hypocrisy and hidden agendas reveal the dysfunction in DC.


But as we noted previously, this is not going down well at home as many US-based diplomats are furious at this unexpected olive branch: "It isn't clear why the secretary of state thinks he can enlist the Russians to support the administration's goals in Syria," said one U.S. intelligence official quoted by Reuters.

So much to parse out from these two sentences. First, US based diplomats as a term is not true. War mongers are not diplomats, they are armchair generals who never wore a uniform. The second sentence has two aspects to it. First, it is an anonymous source. Something Reuters, the source, often uses when it wants to put Globalist ideas into the heads of people and uses unknown mouthpieces for the insertion. The other part is about the "administrations goals in Syria." They have little to do with ISIS and are about removal of Assad and the wrecking of Syria as was done in Libya and Iraq. That is why the "goals" are stated in a way for one to assume something is said when it is not. How could Russia support the dismantling of a sovereign state with a popular elected president?

Such insanity and cognitive dissonance is easy in the country where Hillary has a real chance of becoming president. The message Americans send to the world is stunning in its dysfunction.

Here we see two people who do not care for each other. However Putin looks the more pained as he is dealing with a lesser being with no spiritual or moral center. Almost like he is checking there isn't a booger on Obama's hand or, perhaps some feces.:vom:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/08/07/20160807_obama.jpg

[modwiz]

A short part of a conversation by Graham Hancock. He describes the current dominant culture on Earth as demonic and uses the word twice. I could not agree with him more.

Demons/archons/djinn/flyers work through humans and are powerless without being able to use them. Something to consider............deeply. As many alcoholics have had to consider, one cannot deal with a problem until they accept that it is a problem.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yotIfFEH8BE

[Aragorn]

A short part of a conversation by Graham Hancock. He describes the current dominant culture on Earth as demonic and uses the word twice. I could not agree more with him.

Same thing here, Brother. Forget about the religions that are telling us that if we don't adhere to their lore, we will go to hell. We're already there. :ok:

[Dreamtimer]

Same thing here, Brother. Forget about the religions that are telling us that if we don't adhere to their lore, we will go to hell. We're already there. :ok:

Yes, but heaven is also here.:love::magic:,:sun::unity: The thing I like best is when he says to think for yourself and not have a guru. (not sure if that's in this bit).

[modwiz]

Yes, but heaven is also here.:love::magic:,:sun::unity:

Agreed. Many of us have been able to create our heaven within the Patrix. However, looking at the politics of the USA, and other countries, as well as the mental state of family and loved ones, I see a lot more hell. I could ignore it but, it would not be compassionate to do so. I see the yin and yang of things and look for a dynamic balance. We, as a world are in extreme imbalance. All of our waterways scream this fact. And that is only one of many. Waters did not pollute themselves, demons did it and they have a lot of uncaring, or unwitting, help.

Ignoring illness is not a remedy for it and I am not suggesting that is what you said in your post.

[modwiz]

Max Igan with another great Surviving the Matrix show. He really gets down to the dysfunction of our alternative community and pulls no punches. As usual, he offers solutions and does not just point fingers at problems. He is one of our best and clearest voices, IMO.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SuwXkI13bY

[Rebel&Rocket]

The Graham Hancock snippet just punched me in the face - a much needed punch, so I thank you for sharing. I then listened to the astrologer (who I loved and must check out more from) and could only laugh. Sometimes it's necessary to be punched back out of being wrapped up in, and overwhelmed by, the tediousness that comes with being human. And then it's hilarious and awesome to have the affirmation that you're not alone.

[modwiz]

Just found this Max Igan talk at the Free Your Mind Conference. He calls upon people to embrace the true Warrior Spirit, one grounded in love, the opposite of fear. He is building on much, if not all, the things we already are awake and aware of. It is time to stop looking for new infotainment and begin acting on the issues we know are in our face. Max always provides solutions and a way forward. His passion is infectious.

Posted Aug. 1, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYlusEYogjk

[modwiz]

The video I am posting here is the most fascinating material I have viewed since the Survivor video series. I do believe the narrator is Russian. I rarely struggled to make out words with his "accent". I will not even give it a summary as it would not do justice to this presentation. I am still playing with the theory he posits here about trees and mountains. I might assist a bit in saying that one of the most primitive common plants still growing is an herb called horsetail, of the genus Equisetum.


Horsetail is a member of the Equisetaceae family; the sole survivor of a line of plants going back three hundred million years. The name "horsetail", often used for the entire group, arose because the branched species somewhat resemble a horse's tail. It is a descendant of ancient plants that grew as tall as trees during the carboniferous period of prehistoric times and members of this family gave rise to many of our coal deposits.

Because of its content of silica, this plant is recommended when it is necessary for the body to repair bony tissues. Silica helps to fix calcium, so that the body can store more quantity of this mineral and then use it to repair bones, collagen and other body tissues.

In other words, this herb in indicative of the content of 'primitive' forests. I remember from my childhood dinosaur investigation days, mention of trees that were more different than the woody types we know today. Our modern trees are a more recent evolutionary adaptation, in geological terms. That is to say in the scale of millions compared to tens or hundreds of millions years. It seems that silica and carbon changed places at some point. Therefore, a similar, though probably somewhat different, morphology with a different chemical/molecular structure.

With this preface of mine, perhaps the video might make more sense. I think this story grabs one very early on, once it gets past some introduction.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHkiZNT3cyE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHkiZNT3cyE

[RealityCreation]

Sounds interesting Modwiz but I am not seeing a link to the video, unless it is just me for some reason.

[modwiz]

Sounds interesting Modwiz but I am not seeing a link to the video, unless it is just me for some reason.

I have the full video in the post. Clicking it to start will then show the youtube button which you can click on to take you the the channel it is posted on. I do not add the links for that reason. It is included with the video, as stated here.

Here is the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHkiZNT3cyE

[RealityCreation]

I do not know what happened as there was no video showing when I looked, just your text Modwiz.

I can see it is there now as well as your link. Thank you.

[Elen]

The video I am posting here is the most fascinating material I have viewed since the Survivor video series. I do believe the narrator is Russian. I rarely struggled to make out words with his "accent". I will not even give it a summary as it would not do justice to this presentation. I am still playing with the theory he posits here about trees and mountains. I might assist a bit in saying that one of the most primitive common plants still growing is an herb called horsetail, of the genus Equisetum.



In other words, this herb in indicative of the content of 'primitive' forests. I remember from my childhood dinosaur investigation days, mention of trees that were more different than the woody types we know today. Our modern trees are a more recent evolutionary adaptation, in geological terms. That is to say in the scale of millions compared to tens or hundreds of millions years. It seems that silica and carbon changed places at some point. Therefore, a similar, though probably somewhat different, morphology with a different chemical/molecular structure.

With this preface of mine, perhaps the video might make more sense. I think this story grabs one very early on, once it gets past some introduction.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHkiZNT3cyE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHkiZNT3cyE

My goodness modwiz, that was so surprisingly interesting. I had no idea that those mountaintops where indeed TREES. Great find and thank you for posting it!

Further, we must withhold our final judgment for another day, there are aspects that need discernment (I'm not sure), did he actually mean that the Earth is flat?

:h5::winner:

[Elen]

Here's another version of the same video with an English voiceover that makes it easier to follow, and she, DITRH doesn't call it flat Earth this time, so who knows. I hope you don't mind modwiz.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObJL6aA2czo

[Maggie]

My goodness modwiz, that was so surprisingly interesting. I had no idea that those mountaintops where indeed TREES. Great find and thank you for posting it!

Are mountains indeed trees? Really I am NOT convinced mountains were trees?

After listened to the Russian videographer, I am glad he has a creative mind and is able to receive attention for his hypothesis. Others like me have the hypothesis that the earth grows by taking in energy and creating more bulk. This may or may not have any bearing at all on present experience and yet can fascinate. I love my pet hypotheses of the moment and longer.

Hypothesis such as there is no master over me and you REALLY.
(as I hypothesize that in a consciousness field where I AM the point of awareness, the very notion of mastery is the very elusive goal we set BY ourselves FOR ourselves. Projection of its elusiveness therefore appearing foreign)

I also hypothesize that we will be seeing a plethora of accusations against the purported lying Cabal (that always slippery entity running before us wraith-like)

Another hypothesis is that patterns repeat like stumps (and many stumps are naturally splintered such as when hit by lightning), LOOKING like weathered mountains. Fractality is an alternate explanation of similar appearance.

http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/stumps.jpg

Another hypothesis: that people will possibly lose their minds over the inability to pin down everything neatly. The problem of what is true will be splintering and then weathering like a mountain of terrorized alienation UNTIL with no resolution at all in MAYA's web of fabrication >>>>>>>>>>>.

What if the most basic shape of EVERY THING we THINK is like a sphere that grows ginormus then pops..... a bubble collapsed under its own weight.

[modwiz]

Are mountains indeed trees? Really I am NOT convinced mountains were trees?

After listened to the Russian videographer, I am glad he has a creative mind and is able to receive attention for his hypothesis. Others like me have the hypothesis that the earth grows by taking in energy and creating more bulk. This may or may not have any bearing at all on present experience and yet can fascinate. I love my pet hypotheses of the moment and longer.

Hypothesis such as there is no master over me and you REALLY.
(as I hypothesize that in a consciousness field where I AM the point of awareness, the very notion of mastery is the very elusive goal we set BY ourselves FOR ourselves. Projection of its elusiveness therefore appearing foreign)

I also hypothesize that we will be seeing a plethora of accusations against the purported lying Cabal (that always slippery entity running before us wraith-like)

Another hypothesis is that patterns repeat like stumps (and many stumps are naturally splintered such as when hit by lightning), LOOKING like weathered mountains. Fractality is an alternate explanation of similar appearance.

http://www.exohuman.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/stumps.jpg

Another hypothesis: that people will possibly lose their minds over the inability to pin down everything neatly. The problem of what is true will be splintering and then weathering like a mountain of terrorized alienation UNTIL with no resolution at all in MAYA's web of fabrication >>>>>>>>>>>.

What if the most basic shape of EVERY THING we THINK is like a sphere that grows ginormus then pops..... a bubble collapsed under its own weight.

I hear it as a theory to consider. When I take other theories like the expanding Earth, a theory with sound science behind it, mountain formation according to regular explanations is problematic. This new theory dovetails nicely with the expanding Earth theory. Given the sciences track record regarding our more distant past history, almost any other reasonable explanation is well worth my consideration.

Clif High has explained the expanding Earth theory with good clarity and reason that fits the scientific thought and models I work with.


My goodness modwiz, that was so surprisingly interesting. I had no idea that those mountaintops where indeed TREES. Great find and thank you for posting it!

Further, we must withhold our final judgment for another day, there are aspects that need discernment (I'm not sure), did he actually mean that the Earth is flat?

:h5::winner:

I think his meaning of flat had to do with the scraping flat, and not its planetary shape.

[Maggie]

When I take other theories like the expanding Earth, a theory with sound science behind it, mountain formation according to regular explanations is problematic.

I am tempted to wonder about your understanding of the issues with mountain formation? I am satisfied that surging of liquid magma, crustal folding and impact of force can cause upwelling of material in a long OR ABRUPT GEOLOGIC moment.
If it suits you to think the giant trees are responsible for mountain creation, I am not going to seek an argument.

My retrot-imetravel machine is still broken so I just do not know.
In the meantime, if you get stuck on a very small planet, watch out for the baobobs...they can become uncontrollable.

[Aragorn]

I hear it as a theory to consider. When I take other theories like the expanding Earth, a theory with sound science behind it, mountain formation according to regular explanations is problematic. [...]

I am tempted to wonder about your understanding of the issues with mountain formation? I am satisfied that surging of liquid magma, crustal folding and impact of force can cause upwelling of material in a long OR ABRUPT GEOLOGIC moment.
If it suits you to think the giant trees are responsible for mountain creation, I am not going to seek an argument. [...]

The Expanding Earth theory doesn't necessarily have to contradict the established and scientifically accepted principles behind mountain formation, provided that Earth would not be expanding across its entire crust, but rather only at one or two specific sets of geographical coordinates — e.g. under the oceans. As such, this expansion would still be driving the continents apart and could still give rise — no pun intended — to mountain formation along the scientifically accepted principles.

The claim that mountains would actually be trees is not new, and in my opinion, about as valid as the Flat Earth theory. In other words, it's either deliberate misinformation, intended to keep people chasing their own tails while making complete idiots of themselves in the process — thereby also offering mainstream society a convenient excuse for dismissing the actual conspiracies and cover-ups with prejudice — or else it's a theory from someone who's been smoking too much pot, drinking too much ayahuasca, or eating too many magic mushrooms. Or any combination of the aforementioned hallucinogens.

Anyone who knows a thing or two about chemistry, biology and geology knows that this claim is ludicrous. Not that I wish to claim omniscience, but I happen to be fairly well versed on account of those three scientific disciplines — through understanding, not through dogma, I might add. ;)


There, I've gone and elegantly created peace between the two of you again. :p :ttr: :ha:

[modwiz]

The Expanding Earth theory doesn't necessarily have to contradict the established and scientifically accepted principles behind mountain formation, provided that Earth would not be expanding across its entire crust, but rather only at one or two specific sets of geographical coordinates — e.g. under the oceans. As such, this expansion would still be driving the continents apart and could still give rise — no pun intended — to mountain formation along the scientifically accepted principles.

The claim that mountains would actually be trees is not new, and in my opinion, about as valid as the Flat Earth theory. In other words, it's either deliberate misinformation, intended to keep people chasing their own tails while make complete idiots of themselves in the process — thereby also offering mainstream society a convenient excuse for dismissing the actual conspiracies and cover-ups with prejudice — or else it's a theory from someone who's been smoking too much pot, drinking too much ayahuasca, or eating too many magic mushrooms. Or any combination of the aforementioned hallucinogens.

Anyone who knows a thing or two about chemistry, biology and geology knows that this claim is bogus. Not that I wish to claim omniscience, but I happen to be fairly well versed on account of those three sciences — through understanding, not through dogma, I might add. ;)

There, I've gone and elegantly created peace between the two of you again. :p :ttr: :ha:

I will reiterate, that I am entertaining a new theory. I am playing with it and giving it consideration. Having spent a full year studying geology I am well aware of the scientific theories and they worked well for me. I was disregarding the basalt hexagonal crystals as tree cells until he showed what appears to be the fascia or cell wall of organic things peeling from the "basalt crystals". That little piece made me be willing to at least consider the concept.

I need to make it clear I am not 'buying' this theory. I am looking at it and seeing how well it sits. Also, I did not hear him posit a flat Earth theory as it is commonly understood by too many. I understood it as being scraped flat of the original majesty of truly old growth forests. Yggdrasil comes to mind here.


I am tempted to wonder about your understanding of the issues with mountain formation? I am satisfied that surging of liquid magma, crustal folding and impact of force can cause upwelling of material in a long OR ABRUPT GEOLOGIC moment.
If it suits you to think the giant trees are responsible for mountain creation, I am not going to seek an argument.

My retrot-imetravel machine is still broken so I just do not know.
In the meantime, if you get stuck on a very small planet, watch out for the baobobs...they can become uncontrollable.

The expanding Earth theory makes sense to me. So, subduction and continents colliding becomes part of the problem with classical geology as I spent a year learning in high school. I opted for geology in lieu of physics. You speak to me like I have accepted the points made, rather than a thoughtful consideration of them. Why does a thoughtful persons musings plug you in so?

[modwiz]

There, I've gone and elegantly created peace between the two of you again. :p :ttr: :ha:

I am happy to have even a somewhat contentious dialogue in the Tent. The science behind geology, as we know it, has sat well with me for decades. Also, the many silly ideas popping up in the alternative community are well worth applying discernment to.

[Maggie]

The Expanding Earth theory doesn't necessarily have to contradict the established and scientifically accepted principles behind mountain formation, provided that Earth would not be expanding across its entire crust, but rather only at one or two specific sets of geographical coordinates — e.g. under the oceans. As such, this expansion would still be driving the continents apart and could still give rise — no pun intended — to mountain formation along the scientifically accepted principles.

The claim that mountains would actually be trees is not new, and in my opinion, about as valid as the Flat Earth theory. In other words, it's either deliberate misinformation, intended to keep people chasing their own tails while make complete idiots of themselves in the process — thereby also offering mainstream society a convenient excuse for dismissing the actual conspiracies and cover-ups with prejudice — or else it's a theory from someone who's been smoking too much pot, drinking too much ayahuasca, or eating too many magic mushrooms. Or any combination of the aforementioned hallucinogens.

Anyone who knows a thing or two about chemistry, biology and geology knows that this claim is ludicrous. Not that I wish to claim omniscience, but I happen to be fairly well versed on account of those three scientific disciplines — through understanding, not through dogma, I might add. ;)


There, I've gone and elegantly created peace between the two of you again. :p :ttr: :ha:

I did not consider what I wrote as being contentious or with a lack of peace but maybe it came across as such?
The Knights who say Ni must have their shubbery.....

RZvsGdJP3ng

[modwiz]

I did not consider what I wrote as being contentious or with a lack of peace but maybe it came across as such?
The Knights who say Ni must have their shubbery.....


I did not perceive a lack of peace between us at all. You are contending with an idea I am entertaining. I welcome it.

[Elen]

I have in my possession a little piece of petrified wood (stone) that I found on a walk in Australia, and that to me speaks volumes. It happens in nature, and I'm good to go with that with all due respect for discernment. You know, modwiz, it's great to let your mind "loose" and go out on a limb every now and again. I like it!

[PurpleLama]

I believe the study of large scale geologic phenomena will always be lacking as long as the evidence of a vastly ancient space based war is not taken into account.

[PurpleLama]

To wit, look to the surface of mars for the most obvious features, requiring little imagination, whereas on earth the "kill shot" missed, failing to take out the planet's plasma core ie. it's ability to sustain life, but introducing a wobble which couldn't be a natural planetary feature. Perhaps our obviously artificial lunar orbit was to help stabilize a planet that was once much more upset after "the breaking of Hamlet's mill"....

[modwiz]

I believe the study of large scale geologic phenomena will always be lacking as long as the evidence of a vastly ancient space based war is not taken into account.

Indeed. If one can even play with the idea of miles high trees and their girth, then the examples of tree trunks shattered by lightning extrapolated to mountain size would require unimaginable amounts of energy directed at such posited trees. Even the idea of canyons being quarries would require a technology beyond that we currently possess.

The reason I included horsetail/equisetum into the conversation was to suggest that ancient trees were, or could have been, silicon rather than carbon based. What I learned in geology will not subside so easily. However, I am willing to play with ideas that have some sense of rhyme and reason to them. They may be hard to believe but, I do not find the theory preposterous. I do believe if the narrator had included that remainders of ancient botany could be giving a clue to the flora of that time, it would have helped make the theory a little easier to follow.

[PurpleLama]

As you know I have to be careful with bandwidth limits, causing me to be far more selective than I'd like with which videos I may view. That being said, JPF has a new video on his site, treating the subject of the topological metaphor of the medium much more thoroughly than he has in the past. I very highly recommend it, and I'm a little over halfway through.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXibJ5An1ZA&feature=youtu.be

[PurpleLama]

If you ever wander over to GLP, there is a thread entitled something to the effect of Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations, by a poster named Alterwelt. So much food for thought, it's worthy of the BS one otherwise must endure to be a viewing member of GLP.

[Dreamtimer]

I stumbled across GLP years ago doing searches for obscure topics. I found it a crazy wild place to visit. Then one day I found I had to register. I never did. If you want to share any tidbits, PurpleLama, feel free.:)

[modwiz]

As you know I have to be careful with bandwidth limits, causing me to be far more selective than I'd like with which videos I may view. That being said, JPF has a new video on his site, treating the subject of the topological metaphor of the medium much more thoroughly than he has in the past. I very highly recommend it, and I'm a little over halfway through.

https://youtu.be/sXibJ5An1ZA

I treated myself to this video/talk two nights ago. Just a delight of information and thought. I recommend it highly.

[Dreamtimer]

I treated myself to this video/talk two nights ago. Just a delight of information and thought. I recommend it highly.

I started it yesterday. I'm taking care of my dad so I listen when I can. Thanks for sharing it here, PurplrLama.:)

[PurpleLama]

For GLP, my only recommendation is the above referenced thread by Alterwelt. So much of that forum does not lend itself to recommendation, to put it very politely.

[Maggie]

The meme is speeding, the meme is spreading, the meme is taking many more in than "flat earth". Quote: "It is too fantastical not to care...."

XH5f_DdBC3Y

[Elen]

The meme is speeding, the meme is spreading, the meme is taking many more in than "flat earth". Quote: "It is too fantastical not to care...."

XH5f_DdBC3Y

Interesting dialog and discussion Maggie, I nearly shut it off when the "Flat Earthers" came on, but they were discerning all the way, so I had no problem listening. Very interesting points and people's reactions to the movie "Avatar" and our own reactions to when trees are being cut down. I also personally suffer when trees are being cut down. There's an eerie stillness and emptiness without them that is gone forever after.

[modwiz]

I listened to the round table for about half an hour before falling asleep. Nice enough people but, no deep thinkers in the group. Thoughtful, yes. I am not sure if I will listen again because I do like a little more informed speaker for long listening.

Max Igan put out another Surviving the Matrix show and in the second half he mentions having seen the new video making the rounds. His take was similar to mine. In many way, even the flat Earthers seemed to find a similar "feel" for it. It is just when it came to expressing themselves through ideas that things went South for me and I fell into a coma.lol Got a good few hours of sleep after that. Anyway here is the show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1XFOSCKtMM

[Elen]

Yeah modwiz, what he said about the Russian video is spot on!

[pointessa]

Interesting dialog and discussion Maggie, I nearly shut it off when the "Flat Earthers" came on, but they were discerning all the way, so I had no problem listening. Very interesting points and people's reactions to the movie "Avatar" and our own reactions to when trees are being cut down. I also personally suffer when trees are being cut down. There's an eerie stillness and emptiness without them that is gone forever after.

As odd as this will sound, when I was younger, under the influence of of a psychoactive drug I experienced a sort of merging with trees and plant life. It was one of the most beautiful experiences of my life. It has never left me and really did transform me. You are so right, Elen, there is a stillness and emptiness when a tree is taken down. Do you remember the young woman that lived in an old growth tree in order prevent it being taken down. She was always a hero to me.

The truth is really simple, we do not get to live here without them. And those that refuse to see their beauty and majesty still need to do the math, destroy enough of them and die.

[Elen]

As odd as this will sound, when I was younger, under the influence of of a psychoactive drug I experienced a sort of merging with trees and plant life. It was one of the most beautiful experiences of my life. It has never left me and really did transform me. You are so right, Elen, there is a stillness and emptiness when a tree is taken down. Do you remember the young woman that lived in an old growth tree in order prevent it being taken down. She was always a hero to me.

The truth is really simple, we do not get to live here without them. And those that refuse to see their beauty and majesty still need to do the math, destroy enough of them and die.

:hugs:

I cannot remember the woman living in the tree, but if she did it for that reason, she's my kind of hero too!

[modwiz]

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13932896_1078797202214252_7613775874447970371_n.jp g?oh=9d8e3dfb18e4a5596eecfd098ea360f3&oe=58597D1E

[Aianawa]

Huge thanks Modwiz for being the messenger of the tree/flat earthy vid, loved it and loved sharing it offsite.

[Aianawa]

Hope you be ok with adding this ladies words, in regards to the forest vid, Modwiz >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmJLGWsUDKE

[modwiz]

Hope you be ok with adding this ladies words, in regards to the forest vid, Modwiz >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmJLGWsUDKE

Well. This is a little like the two hour roundtable where people do not really have much to say after a few minute. This lady basically said everything she had twice. In the round table, people meandered all over the place once their initial feeling were shared. The woman above spoke of the carbon in the trees turning into rock. Silica based trees can morph, carbon based ones will usually rot. The title seemed to attract many of the flat Earthers and their limited cognitive powers and low information base. I am glad they enjoyed the presentation. I do wonder if they would have taken notice if the words flat Earth were not in the title.:hmm:

I have encouraged a member who asked to begin their own thread. Should be interesting if we get new members joining.:rolleyes:

[Maggie]

More commentary on internet memes

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[modwiz]

More commentary on internet memes

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One of the more intelligent conversations on the new video that is catching the internet by storm. It is too bad that the intelligent blonde is such a potty mouth. We all use profanity, and often with good use, in our language but, being a potty mouth, like CW Chanter, takes away from the higher intelligence being displayed. The discussion of the video seems to take place in the latter hour of this two hour video. I had to click around to get to it. Some of these two hour conversations can get tedious for me. I have enjoyed the "round table" discussions by Chistine and Karelia, of Earth Empaths, with their crew far more.

[PurpleLama]

So, Rad, I joined Fight Club (ZH).

[Novusod]

Well. This is a little like the two hour roundtable where people do not really have much to say after a few minute. This lady basically said everything she had twice. In the round table, people meandered all over the place once their initial feeling were shared. The woman above spoke of the carbon in the trees turning into rock. Silica based trees can morph, carbon based ones will usually rot. The title seemed to attract many of the flat Earthers and their limited cognitive powers and low information base. I am glad they enjoyed the presentation. I do wonder if they would have taken notice if the words flat Earth were not in the title.:hmm:

I have encouraged a member who asked to begin their own thread. Should be interesting if we get new members joining.:rolleyes:

This is one of the gaping holes in Earth has no forests theory. There is no morphing.

The process is called mineral replacement. Silicates can be dissolved in water similar to dissolving salt in water. If you put salt in a glass a water the salt disappears and you can't see it anymore but it is still there. Silicates can be dissolved in water in the same manner. If a log is buried in mud with dissolved silicates those silicates will transfer into the log when the water soaks into the log. As the log rots away the silicates will remain behind.
http://i.imgur.com/oY7zxNK.jpg
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[Rebel&Rocket]

I haven't listened to the commentary videos, but my biggest question with the theory video was completely disregarding subduction. I couldn't understand how he could completely bypass a conversation about that and assume all mountains are just quarry waste or trees. Any of the commentary touch on that?

[Novusod]

I haven't listened to the commentary videos, but my biggest question with the theory video was completely disregarding subduction. I couldn't understand how he could completely bypass a conversation about that and assume all mountains are just quarry waste or trees. Any of the commentary touch on that?

The original guy in the Russia video is a Flat Earther so I doubt he believes in any type of conventional geology. He goes overboard in saying all mountains are trees. The theory should only apply to a few specific mountains.

[modwiz]

I haven't listened to the commentary videos, but my biggest question with the theory video was completely disregarding subduction. I couldn't understand how he could completely bypass a conversation about that and assume all mountains are just quarry waste or trees. Any of the commentary touch on that?

In the Expanding Earth theory, which I find more plausible than subduction, there is no subduction, lol. After a year studying geology the concept and explanations of suduction are assumptions I have carried for decades. The size and attending physics of dinosaurs made me open to considering the expanding Earth theory. I allow my self to hold both theories side by side and see which one shows more evidence over time and revelations. I do not need to make up my mind now, neither one affects how I love or the kind of world I would like to live in. Far more important considerations than science of any stripe, IMO. Energetic and real life parasites and adversaries would love us to be more interested in Earth shape and geology than focus on them and how we effect the change for a system that dis-empowers them and empowers us. They know how much we like to debate, or even argue, over details that have no applications to our experiencing this beautiful planet the way were meant to do. I can make music under any number of geologic considerations.

[161803398]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=405bhFhjftw Here is the person who should be a candidate for President.

[161803398]

I can't believe I am hearing this much sense from an American politician:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOS-YiXXB8

[modwiz]

So, Rad, I joined Fight Club (ZH).

Are you under the same user name? If you comment I'd like to know who you are. I tend to read, or at least skim through, the comments.

[PurpleLama]

Are you under the same user name? If you comment I'd like to know who you are. I tend to read, or at least skim through, the comments.

Naturally, you will also recognize the avatar, the purple Dragon eye.

[modwiz]

Naturally, you will also recognize the avatar, the purple Dragon eye.

Have you commented yet?

[PurpleLama]

I have a few times. My handle is all lower case letters, unlike my forum handles.

The comment sections are not for the faint of heart, to be sure, so much racism and vulgarity, but likewise they do indeed contain some of the highest quality commentary on the net in terms of geopolitics.

[modwiz]

I have a few times. My handle is all lower case letters, unlike my forum handles.

The comment sections are not for the faint of heart, to be sure, so much racism and vulgarity, but likewise they do indeed contain some of the highest quality commentary on the net in terms of geopolitics.

LOL. Yes it is ugly, a lot but, it is old school too and not politically correct. It is refreshing to know who the bungholes and racists are. PC is so wrong in concept and it weakens people in ways that make them fragile. It only stregthens mind control, lawyers and the courts.

[modwiz]

I know the tent has been quiet lately. Apologies for that. My new found musical engagement, with lots of practice, has left me both busy and tired mentally. Also, with no posts to respond to it gives me little to "riff" off of. LOL. SO much of the news is dreary and the more informed articles are long ones that many people may not find of interest but, it is mainly my own fatigue that has kept me from posting more.

I am taking the week off musically and look to get back in the groove.

[Aragorn]

I am taking the week off musically and look to get back in the groove.

Beware, Brother. I've heard Madonna resides there. In the groove, that is. :p :ttr:

[modwiz]

Beware, Brother. I've heard Madonna resides there. In the groove, that is. :p :ttr:

LOL. One of the songs we have been playing Is Lady Madonna. We play the studio version so it is like two and a half minutes long.

[modwiz]

This is a new show and interview with Joseph P. Farrell. I will be listening to it shortly but, I wanted to post it now because I have never listened to an interview of his that was not top notch information and discussion. Vetting his videos is not necessary IMO. I am sure Purple Lama would agree.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4P8Qk9NyA4

[Aianawa]

Xlent ta, will watch in morn, heard good things about him.

[Dreamtimer]

This is a new show and interview with Joseph P. Farrell. I will be listening to it shortly but, I wanted to post it now because I have never listened to an interview of his that was not top notch information and discussion. Vetting his videos is not necessary IMO. I am sure Purple Lama would agree.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4P8Qk9NyA4
Yep. It's a good one.:thup:

[modwiz]

I have discovered a new site that has really caught my interest. It might be based in Russia but, I am not sure. What I like about it is great writers and analysis from what seems to be a deep spiritual perspective. Not new agey spirituality but, a deep thoughtful spirituality. It was the following article that brought me to the site. It is about a human based economic model. Free of hopium and conjecture but instead, filled with an understanding of how economics and human needs converge. If you are someone seriously considering a better future and world to live in and know the current model is broken and falling apart, then do yourself a favor and read this article. I a firmly in the camp that we create our own reality. It is imperative that we have coherent ideas for this reality to coalesce into something we want and not just an externalization of the chaotic and uncoordinated impulses within us.

Distributism: Economics as if People Mattered


In truly "prophetic" utterances, the analysis of present circumstances, along with a consideration of the laws written into human nature which manifest themselves in history, can yield a prediction concerning the general outline of things to come. This judgment of the well-informed and perceptive mind, is somewhat undermined by only one factor. The universe and the "universe" of human society in which the inherent laws written into human nature by its Creator reveal themselves in historical events, is also a universe which contains free creatures who are undetermined as regards the means they can employ to achieve their specifically human end. Human freedom inserts a variable in the material necessity of the universe. This contingency and variability has its ultimate source in the spirituality of the human soul.


In his book Economics for Helen, Belloc identifies the nature of the Distributist State by distinguishing this type of state and social and economic system from that of the Servile State and the Capitalist State. The Servile State is the one of classical antiquity, in which vast masses of the people work as slaves for the small class of owners. In this way, the economic state of antiquity is very similar to the economic system of our own time, insofar as a very small minority possess real property, land, the means of production, and financial capital, while the great mass of the population does not possess these goods to any significant degree. How does Belloc distinguish the Servile State from that of the Capitalist State, in which he counts the Britain of his own time? The difference is that, whereas the Servile State is based on coercion to force the greater part of the population, which does not possess property, to work for those who do, the Capitalist State employs "free" laborers who can choose to sign a work contract with one employer or another. In the liberal Capitalist State, one is "free" to choose to apply for work or accept work from one of the various owners of the means of production. In return for this work, the laborer receives a wage which is a small portion of the wealth that he produces.16

What distinguishes the Distributist State from the two States mentioned above, is that instead of a small minority of men owning the means of production, there is a wide distribution of property. In this regard, Belloc defines property as "the control of wealth by someone."17 Property must, then, be controlled by someone, since wealth which is not kept or used up by someone would perish and cease to be wealth.

http://katehon.com/article/distributism-economics-if-people-mattered

[modwiz]

I want to thank member Jonsnow for bringing this brilliant video to ToT. George puts things into perspective regarding humans and their dysfunctional behavior. Basically, blaming everything wrong on everything except themselves.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c

[Aragorn]

http://users.telenet.be/stryder/Humor/carlin.jpeg

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[PurpleLama]

http://parentsacrossamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Documentation8-17-16final.pdf

I came to share this, and it is uncomfortably salient to the last few posts. I found it while catching up on gizadeathstar just a few moments ago. A few times I've broached the subject online, that these screens we stare at sometimes for hours on end are only superficially at a variance to the football watching couch potato, other good/bad habits notwithstanding. Some lines out of this paper are chilling.

[modwiz]

http://parentsacrossamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Documentation8-17-16final.pdf

I came to share this, and it is uncomfortably salient to the last few posts. I found it while catching up on gizadeathstar just a few moments ago. A few times I've broached the subject online, that these screens we stare at sometimes for hours on end are only superficially at a variance to the football watching couch potato, other good/bad habits notwithstanding. Some lines out of this paper are chilling.

Thanks for visiting and posting. Downloaded it after a quick look. It is a keeper. This thread is quiet without any of the regulars.

[modwiz]

I have found a treasure trove of J.P Farrell talks on a Youtube channel called The Byte Show with George Ann Hughes. Joseph's wide scholarship, use of language and understanding of how the world works and has been working for thousands of years has me spellbound. At the very end of this video, Joseph alludes that he uses some techniques associated with the alchemy he discusses. He also says he would not divulge anything as their incorrect usage is dangerous. It would seem his uncanny abilty to understand things has some roots in his knowledge of alchemy. He smartly never mentions this and this one time is is the only time I have heard about it over many hours of listening to him.

Obviously I have listened to this show in its entirety. I will be putting shows in this thread as I listen to them. I have always found it poor form to post videos the poster has not yet vetted. I will not ask the viewers of this thread to consider anything that has not passed by me and its contents known. In this way, a conversation can be had if the interest is there. What Joseph has to offer can provide the kind of deep insight to our current state of world affairs that a true paradigm shift can be affected because that shift has it roots and origins in our individual and collective psyches. This is the sort if information that provides tools that can be used. We need to realize things will not change while we explore rabbit holes. Such a community is one of Elmer Fudd's. It is time to stop wabbit hunting and construct a new paradigm worthy of the children we bring into the world. The one we currently are giving them was on our watch and it is nothing to feel anything less than shame about.

I just finished my weekly duty of hosting the GMoP Symposium for 2 days of six hours each and I am plying those people with the same lecture. I am also sharing the JP Farrell shows with them. There is a window of opportunity opening for us in the changing world and resetting of financial structures. There is a vacuum of good ideas and the people to implement them and exploiting this unique time is something I seek to maximize. May the Creator bless us all and speak to our hearts with inspiration to let the Created reclaim the Creation we were given. Time to throw off the mind virus parasites.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzMvj4lQBQY

[modwiz]

Here is another part one of a series of talk/videos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKJtImWGpc

[PurpleLama]

http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html

Here one may download all of his interviews in a smaller mp3 format. I've listened to every single show at least twice over the last several years. Playdo and I truly grieved when George Ann passed away. JPF shared many insights with her that did not make it into the books.

[Dreamtimer]

Thanks for sharing these. I listened to many as well but not all. I appreciate your observations, Modwiz.:)