Rhosgobel Tent At TOT

[KosmicKat]

why wait till now?

If your viewpoint is not limited by a single point in time, perhaps it is possible to identify a single point in time at which a desired outcome can be achieved with the minimum of disturbance?

All is in motion: good seems to result in bad, then bad seems to result in good. Night for me may be day for you. Change is constant.

[Curt]

In listening to the Astro-Alba video Modwiz posted, which I referred to in my previous post, I recalled something interesting.

I used to live in Aberdeeshire, Scotland. While there I visited a castle called Ballindalloch, and toured it.

In the castle, there were pictures of the family, the MacPherson-Grants, who still live there. (It is relatively near to Glamis Castle, and Balmoral.)

I noticed at the time that this family had many pictures of themselves meeting with the queen mother, in particular, (and the rest of the royal family) with much signed correspondence between their two families. That should be no surprise, given that the queen mother's family is tied to Aberdeenshire, i.e., Glamis Castle.

I point this out to highlight that this family doesn't appear to be an old relic of the past, but appears to be tied into the Royal establishment in the present day.

My Point:......There were a number of portraits of a wedding, between a young member of the MacPherson-Grant's, (Scottish Nobility) and a young Chinese woman.

This struck me as very unusual at the time. I wondered why a group of 'aristocrats' would have married outside of 'nobility', especially to a woman of 'non-European' descent.

...In listening to the Astro-Alba video, I'm wondering whether the Astro-Alba root bloodline, as Anthony Sanchez suggests, may be present in every race. And I'm wondering whether this wedding may be a sort of indication that this is the case...

[Sooz]

In listening to the Astro-Alba video Modwiz posted, which I referred to in my previous post, I recalled something interesting.

I used to live in Aberdeeshire, Scotland. While there, I visited a castle called, Ballindalloch, and toured it.

In it, there were pictures of the family, the MacPherson-Grants, who still live in the castle. (It is relatively near to Glamis Castle, and Balmoral.)

I noticed at the time that this family had many pictures of themselves meeting with the queen mother, in particular, (and the rest of the royal family) with much signed correspondence between their two families. That should be no surprise, given that the queen mother's family is tied to Aberdeenshire, Glamis Castle, which is nearby, etc.

I point this out to highlight that this family doesn't appear to be an old relic of the past, but appears to be tied into Royal establishment in the present day.

My Point:......There were a number of portraits of a wedding, between a young member of the MacPherson-Grant's, (Scottish Nobility) and a young Chinese woman.

This struck me as very unusual at the time. I wondered why a group of 'aristocrats' would have married outside of 'nobility', especially to a woman of non-European descent.

...In listening to the Astro-Alba video, I'm wondering whether the Astro-Alba root bloodline, as Anthony Sanchez suggests, may be present in every race. And I'm wondering whether this wedding may be a sort of indication that this is the case...

Hi Curt and All,

Your post pricked up my ears. A bit late at night here in Oz. Will pick it up in the morning. Very interesting.

[Sooz]

Just posting this with intuition. Don't be surprised if 'Songs' rocks up on here.

[Curt]

;)

..........


Just posting this with intuition. Don't be surprised if 'Songs' rocks up on here.

[ronin]

the book has not disappeared if you google it ,there is a pdf format available.

what is interesting is the climate change,chemtrails anyone to block the sunrays?

then we have Karen Hudes saying there are a group of species that are a minority who pull the strings residing in the vatican and also control the banks.education and humanity.

was it Enil or Enki who felt compassion for the human hybrids and gave them the divine spark?
we may have been created to be a slave race but it maybe a game changer as we can become as they are?

let,s take Mars for example,we are in the process of trying to set up a base there.
with the air and gravity on mars would we not have to adapt our physical bodies in the future generations to be able to live on Mars comfortably?

we our selves as a human race are now trying to conquer planets,would we create a human that can sustain and live on planet that we ourselves can not?

[ronin]

there is a lot of interest in the past and our origins.which is all good and well,but will we ever know our true history?
so what do we have?we have here and now and our future.
should we be looking into the past or designing our future?

[ronin]

was the game plan of enil or enki to make itself a god and who gave us the teachings so we would worship it?
did he make himself a godlike figure so we would worship him,thus giving us false promise and he himself would be worshiped in whatever religion and giving our energy away to a creator of dna and manipulation of man.
so who is god?
the being that created us and wants us to harvest this planet for it,s own needs?
or a spiritual god that has created everything?

[Curt]

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

http://www.rogerzare.com/media/janus-logo.jpg


there is a lot of interest in the past and our origins.which is all good and well,but will we ever know our true history?
so what do we have?we have here and now and our future.
should we be looking into the past or designing our future?

[modwiz]

Feels like a good time for me to take a little break from the thread. Maybe hours, maybe days. I'll be checking in.

[ronin]

i knew you would Modwiz.
early this afternoon i felt it.

take it easy and take your time out.:tiphat:

[modwiz]

was it Enil or Enki who felt compassion for the human hybrids and gave them the divine spark?


It was Enki and his cohorts.

[ronin]

It was Enki and his cohorts.

so we are a created species of a alien race and the god phenomenon is a false illusion to keep us in check and the wishes of the ego of the alien creator?
meaning that those that created us wanted us to see them as gods.

aka the annunaki ?

then what of the people who have the experience of god or jesus!
these are not delusions but personal experiences that help them in life.

questions for you Modwiz.
1. do you belief in a god.
2.have you ever had a experience that has changed your perception of life?
3.what does spirituality mean to you?
4.is it a alien dna manipulation or gods scheme of things that has helped us to develop as we are.

[Melidae]

You have asked many questions here, ronin.

I'd be interested in knowing what your answer to those questions might be.

[modwiz]

so we are a created species of a alien race and the god phenomenon is a false illusion to keep us in check and the wishes of the ego of the alien creator?
meaning that those that created us wanted us to see them as gods.

aka the annunaki ?

then what of the people who have the experience of god or jesus!
these are not delusions but personal experiences that help them in life.

questions for you Modwiz.
1. do you belief in a god.
2.have you ever had a experience that has changed your perception of life?
3.what does spirituality mean to you?
4.is it a alien dna manipulation or gods scheme of things that has helped us to develop as we are.

Good questions like these, Ronin, will pull me into response. I only timed out because interaction was low and there are other things to do for fun. I tend to have fun in real life and use the web for idea exchanges. I will take your questions one at a time and, depending on response length, possibly each answer in a different post for easier readability.

1. I do. Other than a brief agnostic/atheist period following emotionally out growing the biblical god and having a scientific mind that was filled with Spirit negating data. Ultimately false data. That during the year 17 for me. It was a Lobsang Rampa book, "The Third Eye" that introduced an Eastern god concept along with paranormal abilities. This began a connection that has been a life-line for me since. Also, the movement from a male referenced god to a female one has been a recent development from my ongoing dialogue with that connection and opening a channel that has put things into a clearer perspective for me. It works for me, not just energetically but, in my 3-D existence.

To elucidate my concept with some brevity; According to the knowledge the Gnostics developed over millenia, the Godhead of this Milky Way galaxy lives in the center of it. There are billions of galaxies and I suspect it is the Way of things for each galaxy to have its "intelligent/creative aspect" there. In my mind, and as an anatomist who sees a fascial, or connective tissue, form to the galaxies and and interstellar gases. Galaxies would represent 'nodes' of distributed awareness and creativity. Or, godstuff. Now back to the center of the Milky Way.

This Godhead, is called the Pleroma in Greek/Gnostic terms. This is where the 'gods' live. Aeon is the word in the Gnostic lexicon which happens ro be Greek. The Pleroma is where the Aeons exist. It is from the Pleroma that life creation plans/dreams are conceived and usually carried out from. These life experiments are cast in differing situations around the galaxy and this is repeated with other galaxies, if not all. Species placed in life sustaining environments and allowed to unfold. UNASSISTED! These experiments, and that is what they are, are 'hands-off' from the normal Aeonic perpective. Aeons compose a Pleroma. In these typical set-ups, a species is left alone with its god-spark to create a world. Failure of civilizations is the norm. To quickly conclude this thought, the Aeon Sophia was determined to make the Earth experiment work by making the Earth her body and filling it with her Spirit and Wisdom. She is with the beings she had a hand in conceiving and has made the experiment personal. To have an Aeon care for one of their experiments, to the point of personal involvement is apparently totally novel. Sophia's nature is easily discerned in our own essence. We have her penchant for novelty and daring. With all of our genetic tinkering, we have Her Spirit at our core. The periphery is another story, LOL.

My God concept has continued to evolve and grow with my awareness. Starting with the demi-urge of the bible, to a more All-That-Is concept with variations. The latter being more Pleroma focused. Source in this galaxy. Finally I found Mother. Our caring God(ess) in the middle of it with us. A 3-D god, dreaming a reality with us. Nature is her basic dream with the great stuff awaiting our focus. We are one with her and it is our planet. Dealing with squatters is something we will have to attend to when we grow up. Then we can actively join Her and dream the world she envisioned ages ago for us.

That is the greater scenario my energy aligns with now. It has been the most powerful and consistent relationship I have had. It makes so much sense for me. I am working with a broader metaphysical understanding than most, because I have studied it most of my life. Electricians know more about electricity than me.

God concepts work for me when one feels the connection as a constant grounded experience that moves through a perceived multi-dimensional environment. Multiple dimensions are perceived with the subtle anatomy and not the physical eyes. I also only speak of the native multi-dimensional aspects. Nothing fancy.

That was answer #1. Break time.

[modwiz]

You have asked many questions here, ronin.

I'd be interested in knowing what your answer to those questions might be.

Me too.

[modwiz]

#2.

I continue to have experiences that change my life. I call it growth. Of course, bad experiences can retard growth if interpreted in a an unclear way.

[ronin]

You have asked many questions here, ronin.

I'd be interested in knowing what your answer to those questions might be.

Melidae the questions where not directed at you but to to Modwiz.
just out of curiosity as to know a little bit more of the tent wizard.
as to re directing my questions back to me that is fine and time will tell!

i feel you have jumped the gun and come across to defend Modwiz.
let it be known that this is not a attack but pure honest questions.

[Melidae]

I was speaking to the many questions you have asked in the several posts you have made...not to the one particular post addressed to mod directly.

Thank goodness I did not post my response to your post asking what the past has to do with the present and future.

Will bow out of this conversation as gracefully as possible and leave you to it.

I wish you the best finding your answers, ronin. :smiley hug:

[ronin]

I was speaking to the many questions you have asked in the several posts you have made...not to the one particular post addressed to mod directly.

Thank goodness I did not post my response to your post asking what the past has to do with the present and future.

Will bow out of this conversation as gracefully as possible and leave you to it.

I wish you the best finding your answers, ronin. :smiley hug:

if you comment clearly as you just have done then the post would not be diverted!
thank goodness you never mention the past,present and future as you have only made a mention of it now?

how would i know you where referring to several post?

i/we cannot read your mind and if you take offence only you can carry that.

[modwiz]

i feel you have jumped the gun and come across to defend Modwiz.
let it be known that this is not a attack but pure honest questions. I can tell they were. That is why they are being addressed even after writing of taking a break. Good, honest questions motivate me. So does good discussion.

[Melidae]

if you comment clearly as you just have done then the post would not be diverted!
thank goodness you never mention the past,present and future as you have only made a mention of it now?

how would i know you where referring to several post?

i/we cannot read your mind and if you take offence only you can carry that.

I shall endeavor to visit TOT more often in order to respond to a post in a more timely manner to avoid confusion.

No offense taken.

[modwiz]

Hello, Ria. Good thoughts to you and your being. Your absence from TOT and the tent has been noticed. Be well.

[modwiz]

I'm going to make some music in the garage. Here is Ron's latest vlog. Most of it works despite being largely remedial for me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcAN8X1b6b0

[Seikou-Kishi]

Happy solstice everybody :-)

[modwiz]

Just watched a video where Neil Keenan had one of his team hammer and chisel a metal box open to reveal around 50 one kilo bars of gold in it. These Dragon family elders, who are in Indonesia (no color designation here) gave him this box and others, including trunks, with varying content to Neil and his team for the time, efforts and expenses. Efforts to get these "collateral accounts", his terms, released towards humanitarian efforts. So he now has a something for himself. I look to see what unfolds in the following days, weeks and months.


Upon exiting the bunker, Neil was rewarded for his determination and courage. The Elder gatekeeper presented him with numerous sealed and locked boxes which, as you will see in the video, required serious manual labor to break open.

Precious few have seen these boxes, much less seen them opened, because only a few have ever gotten close to them before. Most don’t believe they exist but here is undeniable proof that they do in fact exist. Here is the first disclosure of what one box might contain.

Before the box was opened, Neil joked that with the Keenan Team’s luck, the contents were probably from Al Capone’s vault that was moved to Asia. In this one box were gold bars each weighing 1 kilogram (2.3 lbs) and worth approximately $50K. The ravages of time and humidity have created oxidation and mold on the bars, but there’s no question about what lies beneath.
http://neilkeenan.com/

The language of the press release is very praiseworthy of Neil. Adoringly so. I think Neil may have written it. LOL

[Pris]

http://neilkeenan.com/

The language of the press release is very praiseworthy of Neil. Adoringly so. I think Neil may have written it. LOL

I would have written it myself that way.

YIPPEE KI YAY, M***ER F***ERS!!!!!

WHHOOOO HOOOO!!!!

Way to go, Neil!!!
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/avatars/99FunnyPictures_1370423915_75.jpg

[modwiz]

This video just went up. It is Lisa Harrison interviewing John Lash. This interviews lays out, in uninterrupted fashion, the Sophianic Myth narrative in all of its beauty and 'drama'. It includes the part of how the archons and draco beings came into being and the vexatious dynamic they have played in human life on Earth/Sophia. It ends just as he brings us up to what role the Anthropos will play in Her correction. That is in part 2, which I have not listened to yet. Just finished listening to this one to make sure it was worth the time spent.

John Lash also speaks of the irritations he has with those who use the word archon when it is taken out of the Sophianic narrative. The word archon has no context out of this narrative. The word is pulled from this material and is not relevant without what is emerges out of. This narrative forms my current cosmology and it has a deep personal resonance beyond any former 'contact'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEV9u8aMH7w

[modwiz]

And now for something totally light-hearted but, dear to my heart. Music gear!:)

I had a unique guitar cabinet built for myself with custom tolex covering, green crocodile, and checked grill cover. It has two differnt size speaker settings and I have fitted it with two speakers that sound very good together. The smaller speaker is a hemp cone speaker. I will put up front and back pics taken in our studio. I an a poor photgrapher overall. I get lucky sometimes and these pics are not those times. LOL

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/modwiz/Maggiefrontview_zpsab695026.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/modwiz/media/Maggiefrontview_zpsab695026.jpg.html)

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/modwiz/Maggiebackview_zps6eb29715.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/modwiz/media/Maggiebackview_zps6eb29715.jpg.html)

The name of the cab is Maggie but, since she has lizard skin I might call her Elizabeth. Har har. Icke humor. Just plain Mags might do.

The photo editor with Win 7 does not give me options XP had. My apologies for the large pics.

[monk]

I awoke today to find Keenan has finally been capitalized, and a seriously cool speaker....


https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.607988509892808189&pid=15.1&P=0



......nice!

[modwiz]

A little more gear porn. This is my main guitar amp that I just loaded a new speaker into.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/modwiz/MySCX2.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/modwiz/media/MySCX2.jpg.html)

[norman]

You Gearslut, you.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/



oh!.... here's a little musical ditty from "South Pacific" that amazes me that they allowed it. Actually, it's 'missing' from the later releases of the soundtrack.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZ8yOFFbAc

[Melidae]

Oooooh...gearporn...

Is it getting hot in here or is it just me? :blsh:

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/4chsmu1.gif

[Calz]

Just watched a video where Neil Keenan had one of his team hammer and chisel a metal box open to reveal around 50 one kilo bars of gold in it. These Dragon family elders, who are in Indonesia (no color designation here) gave him this box and others, including trunks, with varying content to Neil and his team for the time, efforts and expenses. Efforts to get these "collateral accounts", his terms, released towards humanitarian efforts. So he now has a something for himself. I look to see what unfolds in the following days, weeks and months.


http://neilkeenan.com/

The language of the press release is very praiseworthy of Neil. Adoringly so. I think Neil may have written it. LOL


Hard to see the nesara plan to pass the wealth among the world population ... but nice to see some proof to back up the claims regardless.

Could be used to help with the fight to bring down the system (which is obviously the only thing that matters going forward) ... so although I remain skeptical ... I offer hope.


I think between Putin/China and the Brics (Putin on the Brics???) there is yet a chance ... but even so the west is in the crosshairs for most.


Time is not on our side ...


imho of course ...


I'm a bit short on the jingle necessary for any underground bunker stocked/staffed for several years or otherwise ...

[Calz]

oh!.... here's a little musical ditty from "South Pacific" that amazes me that they allowed it. Actually, it's 'missing' from the later releases of the soundtrack.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAZ8yOFFbAc


I watched that movie several times over the years ... don't remember that.

Thanx.

[Calz]

Oooooh...gearporn...

Is it getting hot in here or is it just me? :blsh:

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/4chsmu1.gif

... why Melidae ... I always had such a remarkably high level of respect for you I never even considered such ...


http://www.pic4ever.com/images/129fs238648.gif

[Melidae]

Comes from when I was the only female member of a general business band for eleven years.

Good equipment turns me on...

:whstl:

[Black Panther]

This video just went up. It is Lisa Harrison interviewing John Lash. This interviews lays out, in uninterrupted fashion, the Sophianic Myth narrative in all of its beauty and 'drama'. It includes the part of how the archons and draco beings came into being and the vexatious dynamic they have played in human life on Earth/Sophia. It ends just as he brings us up to what role the Anthropos will play in Her correction. That is in part 2, which I have not listened to yet. Just finished listening to this one to make sure it was worth the time spent.

John Lash also speaks of the irritations he has with those who use the word archon when it is taken out of the Sophianic narrative. The word archon has no contest out of this narrative. The word is pulled from this material and is not relevant without what is emerges out of. This narrative forms my current cosmology and it has a deep personal resonance beyond any former 'contact'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEV9u8aMH7w

Wanted to share with my 1 Truth friends and especially with my friend Modwiz, but you beat me again ...

[ronin]

this is a common rule used by the Japanese that may be difficult to understand and explain but is easy to use and practice.
western workplaces are now using this method in the workplace,but could it be used in everyday life?

the five S,s

1. Seiri
2. Seiton
3. Seiso
4. Seiketsu
5. ****suke

everyone from the cleaner to the management help in their own way to sustain a effective workplace.

maybe one more should be added to that list.
Jit.

nope not Japanese in town.
but just in time.
you will receive as and when is necessary.

just a thought after watching the red dragon videos.

[sandy]

Listened to both video's of John Lash and Lisa.

Whether one believes in myths, I have to admit Johns concepts of the Sofia myth are intriguing. Not sure about what John is calling for at the end of the last video or if I heard him correctly in meaning what his says, literally. Won't mention anything for a while until others have had a chance to listen and as well.

Also watched the opening of the boxes videos>>>thanks for posting>>> which proves to be interesting also. I rechecked to make sure I heard that the stash was hidden under ground, thus when I saw clips of covered windows in the video of what appears to be them showing other boxes in this underground place, I naturally found this suspect. Therefore I will hold this doubt in check until they publish the video about their visit to this underground vault so to speak.

Might want to check out the video about the market and gold reserves/Joseph Farrell, that Barbara posted today may be another piece to the puzzle.:scrhd:

[modwiz]

Listened to both video's of John Lash and Lisa.

Whether one believes in myths, I have to admit Johns concepts of the Sofia myth are intriguing. Not sure about what John is calling for at the end of the last video or if I heard him correctly in meaning what his says, literally. Won't mention anything for a while until others have had a chance to listen and as well.

Also watched the opening of the boxes videos>>>thanks for posting>>> which proves to be interesting also. I rechecked to make sure I heard that the stash was hidden under ground, thus when I saw clips of covered windows in the video of what appears to be them showing other boxes in this underground place, I naturally found this suspect. Therefore I will hold this doubt in check until they publish the video about their visit to this underground vault so to speak.

Might want to check out the video about the market and gold reserves/Joseph Farrell, that Barbara posted today may be another piece to the puzzle.:scrhd:

I put up the NK vid because it is alt "breaking news". I have not followed Neil's work other than the stories that break through. Neil loves himself and will film anything with him in it, LOL. If this ever turns out to be a story of moment then we wll hear about it.

I did not post the second interview to avoid discussing some of John's controversial ideas with the KWP. It is the Sophianic myth I wanted people to hear. I hold it as our creation story and that acceptance has opened me into new connections to reality that are still expanding. SO the myth in not intriguing for me. It is my working cosmology, one of many formers, and it is the best fit of all of them. The most empowering also, as the myth is still be written by the active participants. Us.

Time to go look at Farrell.

[Calabash]

I've been trawling though some of the earlier posts in this amazing thread and am blown away, deeply moved and humbled by the brilliance and diversity of the posts offered. Synergy magic at its very best, an evolving reflection of what has been, ever could and will be - all presented in the timeless Now.

Wow . . .

Thanks folks :) xx

[sandy]

I put up the NK vid because it is alt "breaking news". I have not followed Neil's work other than the stories that break through. Neil loves himself and will film anything with him in it, LOL. If this ever turns out to be a story of moment then we wll hear about it.

I did not post the second interview to avoid discussing some of John's controversial ideas with the KWP. It is the Sophianic myth I wanted people to hear. I hold it as our creation story and that acceptance has opened me into new connections to reality that are still expanding. SO the myth in not intriguing for me. It is my working cosmology, one of many formers, and it is the best fit of all of them. The most empowering also, as the myth is still be written by the active participants. Us.

Time to go look at Farrell.

Yes, I agree with it being the most fitting of all the myths, Modwiz.

I also like the fact and can appreciate that this depicted Goddess Sofia, Mother Earth, is alive and well and aching for our participation in the continued creation of LOVE ENERGY!

[modwiz]

I've been trawling though some of the earlier posts in this amazing thread and am blown away, deeply moved and humbled by the brilliance and diversity of the posts offered. Synergy magic at its very best, an evolving reflection of what has been, ever could and will be - all presented in the timeless Now.

Wow . . .

Thanks folks :) xx

Thank you, Calabash.

[Pris]

Also watched the opening of the boxes videos>>>thanks for posting>>> which proves to be interesting also. I rechecked to make sure I heard that the stash was hidden under ground, thus when I saw clips of covered windows in the video of what appears to be them showing other boxes in this underground place, I naturally found this suspect. Therefore I will hold this doubt in check until they publish the video about their visit to this underground vault so to speak.

Might want to check out the video about the market and gold reserves/Joseph Farrell, that Barbara posted today may be another piece to the puzzle.:scrhd:

Those chests are not in the underground bunker. The video for the underground bunker is coming later. Those chests shown were in a storage facility and were brought up from the bunker for Neil and his team to videotape. The video they shot in the underground bunker was too dark, but they said they're going back in two weeks to shoot again. This is all in part one of the update.

[Catsquotl]

This video just went up. It is Lisa Harrison interviewing John Lash. This interviews lays out, in uninterrupted fashion, the Sophianic Myth narrative in all of its beauty and 'drama'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEV9u8aMH7w

This is the first time I heard this Sophia narrative. Sorry Mod You have mentioned it before, I took it as if you used just another name for our earth mother.
For a first timer its a lot to take in, also brings up a lot of questions.. I will listen to the second part over the next few days...

So anyone know who the gnostics were that wrote this fragmented narrative?
Also what had me thinking. when this thread began we wanted to explore the concept of loosh if I remember correctly. I wonder how that fits into this story.

WIth Love
Eelco

[donk]

If there's any credence to this dragon stuff, it would seem to me to imply that it is in fact the loosh that is the real currency in this reality. The gnostic story is a pretty profound explanation why, and honestly I'm not completely on board with either narrative.

It seems to me that this reality is composed of a variety of life/consciousnesses that fill every niche in a sort of energy web...I believe there's at least a critter, if not a conscious being that we can communicate with--consuming a specific range of "energy"....we consume "food" (made from sunlight at it's basest form), "archons" consume loosh--whether or not they were created by accident by some supreme superconsciousness is an interesting story (I'll have to go listen to this re-telling, I was a huge fan of it and Lash a little ways back) but I don't find it that much different from pretty much every other story we tell ourselves.

I don't think we are going make any "progress" until we change our mindsets. Maybe the gnosis helps, guides us toward a collective imagining of ourselves and other beings that thrive from light emitted by our star start sharing the dream of life as a thriving organism, rather than a collection of selfish individuals...appreciating existence without self-imposed (or externally manipulated) limitations.

I've felt compelled to start telling my own story, our own story--based on our shared reality. Imagining what life would be like, if everyone I touched at least got a taste of existence really, a glimpse that "it's only this way" because we allow it to be.

I dunno...in my life, all I see is fractals. Something thrives off of peoples' emmiting of emotional energy, which is exascerbated by the current arrangement of human life we find ourself in. The knowledge of the existence of "something else" consuming that energy should at least alleive some fear, and allow us to learn the importance of emotional maturity. I feel the apex of which is the ability to NOT TAKE PERSONALLY the fact that some beings exist solely off of this...

We live in a world where information truly is power...that is our "advantage" over anything that would "harm" us. To learn who our predators and how they behave is crucial, to do so with loving detachment is what I feel will be the only way...the way to change our relationship with reality, to have more "freedom", something closer to the existence that we want. To do so we must be responsible with all of the information that we consume, and really question WHY we feel it's important. ........................alright, I'm rambling now...just some thoughts that were triggered, take it for whatever it is worth

[Catsquotl]

oeh ooohhh. one more question arose whilst listening.
About how astrology will change with the Sophia story, especially when she/we go rogue

WIth Love
Eelco

[modwiz]

Here is the latest from the Ambassador with Ron.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKdroIjw4D8

[KosmicKat]

Very interesting! According to my notes, the number V signifies Christ-consciousness :)

[donk]

Merry Christmas, love to the tent


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTNheCEUP_A

[Catsquotl]

Hmm been mulling the Sophia narrative for a while. It explains some of the old nature religions.
What I do find odd though is that it takes so much effort to see/feel the connection.

Now the usual suspect to blame for feeling disconnected is often upbringing, indoctrination, psychopatic others or even mindcontroll etc. And certainly many of those do interfere with a tagible connection. Still I cannot escape the feeling that there is more in play here. Some sort of natural tendency to disconnect.

Like the craving for unhealthy feeding habbits. You would think the human being would feel attracted to what's healthy.
ANd having 6 kids I just know that is not the case. The kids feel attracted to bread for instance instead of warm freshly cooked meals. Rather eat a sandwich instead of porridge, fruits and veggies or salads. prefer lemonade over water.

Now how can it be that if we are divinely designed. we crave these self-destructive tendencies. Sure we can overcome them, but that takes effort on an almost continual basis. A redirecting of intend towards waht you know is good for you and your tendency to indulge in that which is not so much so.

I have to think about this..

WIth Love
Eelco

[donk]

I actually started listening yesterday, been awhile since I heard him...that one is excellent. I can never get over how responsible he is with his words and how much you can watch his ideas grow and evolve, I can listen to that man for hours, but haven't gotten all the way through yet...soon

I love how stresses it is not a self destruct program built in, it is in fact sophia giving us all of her love, trusting her creations with an enormous responsibility we just haven't been able to figure out how to handle yet.

Definitely a good starting point if you are interested and new to that material that lady does nice job letting him tell the story...

[Pris]

Hmm been mulling the Sophia narrative for a while. It explains some of the old nature religions.
What I do find odd though is that it takes so much effort to see/feel the connection.

Now the usual suspect to blame for feeling disconnected is often upbringing, indoctrination, psychopatic others or even mindcontroll etc. And certainly many of those do interfere with a tagible connection. Still I cannot escape the feeling that there is more in play here. Some sort of natural tendency to disconnect.

Like the craving for unhealthy feeding habbits. You would think the human being would feel attracted to what's healthy.
ANd having 6 kids I just know that is not the case. The kids feel attracted to bread for instance instead of warm freshly cooked meals. Rather eat a sandwich instead of porridge, fruits and veggies or salads. prefer lemonade over water.

Now how can it be that if we are divinely designed. we crave these self-destructive tendencies. Sure we can overcome them, but that takes effort on an almost continual basis. A redirecting of intend towards waht you know is good for you and your tendency to indulge in that which is not so much so.

I have to think about this..

WIth Love
Eelco


Yes... I've found that if you live in an environment that doesn't have access to that which you crave, the self-destructive tendencies (cravings) begin to diminish.

Sometimes, all it takes is a little bit of time in such an environment for the body to 'clear' itself out. I, for example, hardly ever eat bread anymore. By not having it around, I lost the craving for it. I still love the smell, but I don't care to eat it.

For several months, my partner and I worked in a bakery. They made everything from bread to sweets. We didn't eat or drink a single thing produced there, and it didn't require that much 'discipline' to hold off because we'd already gotten those 'cravings' (for unhealthy foods) out of our systems.

[modwiz]

I made a comment in Ron's YT area about words usage that developed into some Sophia tie-in. I will share it here.


Ron, you have been diligent in bringing awareness to the legal use of the word 'understand'. Comprehending this is important. What is also crucial to comprehend is that the legal system and legislators/politicians will "hear" the people through these interpretations. So the language we use to express our outrage to them must be chosen carefully to be taken seriously. Currently we must be eliciting chortles from them.

So two new words for us to comprehend. Humanity=monsters. Suffer(allowing)=consent.

Let us look at 'stand under' briefly as a concept with nuances. To stand under, authority, a banner, a cause etc. So, to stand under is to stand with, stand for or align with.

If we ask a politician, "Do you understand humanity is suffering?" or "Do you stand for monsters are consenting ", as one variant. They can safely answer yes and satisfy multiple layers of meaning. To reduce tedium, we will stop here with this part.

Humanity as a concept of who we are is dignified. As a word to be thrown at Power it is a joke. Since an enhanced Gaian/Sophian connection might benefit us all, using a word like Anthropos would help facilitate that. We adopted the word Archon from the same lexicon to endless usage. So let us stay within a common language reference to ideas arising from a common cosmology. Archons do not exist apart from the Sophian narrative. If you believe in archons you have entered the Gaian narrative and the God(ess) of that world is Sophia. She created, accidentally, Yaldoboath/Yahweh, the center of the spiritual world for billions of people. Our reality and cosmology is seriously backward. It was given to us that way. We have some serious de-programming to look at. The Anthropos, the creation of an extant/present Aeon/divinity, is where we draw our inalienable rights, sovereignty and god consciousness from. This is our relevant Source, as the Pleroma observe from the galactic core and do not interfere. We have one of their Own who made it personal with us. It behooves us to not just comprehend this but, to "understand it". Stand with it, align with it. It changes the cosmic and personal reality profoundly.

[sandy]

Thought I would post this interview with John Lash and Thomas Sheridan. They are talking about Psychopathy and the elimination of such in healing what ails the human condition. Found it to be very interesting as well as compelling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QKKQ0GWP_g part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u22asau0RNY part 2

[Catsquotl]

Thinking a bit more about sophias correction.
We have mr Lasch tell us its all from the gnostic writings, especially the nag hammadi.

My first antenna goes up right there. Those scriptures weren't found until 1945. Which even if they are authentic is cause for me to suspect they could be planted/altered.

Then they are heavily if not entirely coloured by early Christianity, which doesn't have to be a problem( but often is).

Also if this story is written by seers. then why haven't independed seers come to the same results. We know the earth is honored as a living being in more cultures but no where do we have a similar story. or do we..

Now i'd like to believe/know this to be truth as much as the next. I just find this story almost to good to be true. It all fits just a bit to nicely, which could point to an conjured image/thoughtform.

Thoughts?

With Love
Eelco

[norman]

I have a positive instinct, and I have a negative instinct.

I sense that they have separate origins.

I also sense that the negative instinct comes from somewhere deep in my biological meat suit.

The positive instinct seems to come from beyond this realm. It certainly isn't bullet proof. It can easily cause me to act in a way that ends in my death. Much to the "annoyance" of my negative instinct, that got married to it, in a way, when I was born.

My positive instinct assures me that I can never really die, so it's actually drawing me closer to it's origin, with a warmer fuzzier feeling than anything my negative instinct can muster. My negative instinct is dead scared of death. Hmmm, I wonder why.

[modwiz]

Dave Schmidt has an update on his trip to Hong Kong and Europe. Things are much as my ears have been picking up. Here, Dave lays things out a little soberly.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUTQmxENn1yJxQLiwRHBjJpQ&v=B5Q55OV9Pt4

[modwiz]

Now i'd like to believe/know this to be truth as much as the next. I just find this story almost to good to be true. It all fits just a bit to nicely, which could point to an conjured image/thoughtform.

Thoughts?

With Love
Eelco

It has been more than just a good fit for me, it has made the most sense and come with the greatest sense of divine connection and immanence. It is the most NOW connection ever experienced by me. It is a consciousness very focused in the now, where creation comes from. Our next act. There is no written future as we are writing it together. That is the plan and always has been. This narrative and knowledge has been the most suppressed of all ancient knowledge. Even disinfo is relegated to scarlett women and nature nymphs. All of our spiritual programming rejects this narrative as betrayal of the father god, the one who has lived in our heads since a god concept was awakened there. I have experienced this firsthand and relatively recent.

As I said in an above post, archons derive from the Sophianic narrative, and do not exist outside of it, except where they have been plucked out of context. Like having Popeye in a Disney movie. Or Hobbits in the Wizard of Oz. So, dropping archons as a concept, without accepting the narrative , works to clean up language and conflated terms which result in nonsense being spoken and making a joke of all of our awake and aware knowledge. Cleaning out old programs is part of correction.

I share these beliefs because they move me with relevance that needs to be shared. I have no points to make. It is my wish that the materials presented are viewed and personal decisions are made or not. If I may elucidate on something, it is my pleasure to do so. This is a very personal issue.

[Catsquotl]

I am in no way trying to disprove or prove this narrative. Just sharing my initial thoughts.
I hinted at my inclination to dive in in blind faith so to speak before. The sophianic myth as i said feels like a myth I could accept and work with no questions asked for a long time before i would questioning it.

However I seem to have picked up on some degree of discernment over the last few years ( well had it beaten into me actually, after not listening for a long time).
I am not discarding it, and am glad (really) it fits you so well. I'm undecided as of yet. More investigation is needed on my part.

WIth Love
Eelco

ps would you have a link to a written account of this myth? I'd like to read instead of listen...

[Black Panther]

Another one with John Lash. Henrik Palmgren, Red Ice Radio.
Have not listened yet, but just sharing because we r talking about Sophia's Correction.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/12/RIR-141226.php

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John Lash - Kalika War Party: Reemergence of the Warrior Class

December 26, 2014

John Lash has been a regular guest on Red Ice Radio since 2008, sharing the discoveries of his collective studies in the fields of directive and sidereal mythology,
naked-eye astronomy, precession, the World Ages, belief systems, and his radical revision of Gnosticism. He has also delved deeply into the sacred story
of Gaia-Sophia and introduced the term Archon to the discourse of humanity. Mr. Lash returns to the program to announce the formation of the Kalika War Party,
a band of self-selected men and women volunteers whose goal is “to strike offensively against all variations of the evil and corrupt system that works against life,
truth, freedom, beauty, sanity, and the spirit of mutual aid.” John explains how his exploration of the Parsifal myth and the Holy Grail question, “What ails thee?”
led him to conceive of the KWP entity. We consider the wounded species of humanity and the suffering caused by the psychopaths who are leading our world to demise.
Then, John describes how the use of magic and shamanism will shape the operations of the KWP, and reminds us of the true abilities of the shaman,
which can be to heal as well as eliminate. Later, John gets into the social evils of mind control, the domestication and pacification of humanity in the name of Christianity,
the elite’s control of the narrative, and the gruesome, murderous, destructive attacks that have been carried out by the USA and those who control it, against all living beings
and the earth itself. Then, John talks about the meaning of the Thunderbird Formation, the symbol for the KWP, and the reemergence of the Warrior Class.
At the end, we examine the true violent tendencies of man, the popularity of war games, and the inevitable downfall of feminism.

[Curt]

Something about the dragon ambassador puts me in mind of Alan Watt. I'm not sure if it's some aspect of the voice, or the diction or phrasing. But I keep coming back to this thought.

[Melidae]

I had begun looking into the early Gnostics years ago...long before I ever heard of John Lamb Lash and the Sophia myth.

They lived simply and sought gnosis (knowledge). Love was not just a word to them...they lived it...feeding the poor, giving shelter to those to needed it, honoring and respecting humanity and nature. It became their downfall when the Catholic church decided they needed to be gone. Strangers would be welcomed into their communities...strangers who did them great harm from within. The decision was made to go 'underground' in order to survive.

What I had learned about the early Gnostics and their way of life gave 'proof of concept' to the Sophia myth for me. Having an affinity to nature and experiencing/interacting with the consciousness of water, trees, insects, etc it has become harder for me to disprove than prove. We are 'of Her', as is all sentient life, and I have accepted my place in and responsibility toward Her and Her creations...and most certainly aiding Sophia's Correction.

It appears that many separate groups are setting in motion their priorities toward ridding this planet of those that destroy life in all its forms. All things are beginning to work together to end crimes against humanity and nature, and create something new. Exciting times we live in.

Whether one believes in the Sophia myth or not, it is time to end the violence and come together for the greatest good for all.

[modwiz]

Another one with John Lash. Henrik Palmgren, Red Ice Radio.
Have not listened yet, but just sharing because we r talking about Sophia's Correction.


I have a pet peeve regarding videos. If one has not watched it, it is both irresponsible and lazy to put a video up. Do you expect me to watch and give you a report? There is no excuse for not vetting a video besides poor excuses. It is like finding what looks like food and offering to another without making sure it is edible.

I listened to the show last night and deemed it unsuitable for discussion here. If you had listened you may have too, or not, but at least you could have made an informed decision.

So, despite having listened to the show, I will not respond to it. Maybe BP will be kind enough to watch the show and discuss.

John is using too much victim language for my taste in this talk. His anger/desire to avenge has clouded him a little on this subject. When I say a little, it is just that. I am going to try and make contact with John because of some plans of mine for the future. He is not hard to get a hold of. Things are moving very rapidly and some coordination might be synergistic.

BP, I know intended to do the right thing, but Sooz as a roll model is a poor choice. (She loves pizzzing me off, eh?) Are you looking to get your own smiley too? I also know you are not alone in this bad habit. Any video put down should find the depositor ready to discuss the contents. Not even knowing what the video contains is a unfathomable behavior from my stance as an adult. The cognitive dissonance is staggering.

One comment. It is odd that my discrepancies regarding language also finding me agreeing that the language John uses is probably the correct language to communicate to where consciousness exists for many people.

BTW, my issue with BP is one of boundaries. Respecting boundaries and boundary management. If one does not speak up then one cannot expect boundaries to be recognized, never mind respected.

Boundaries and their management is always a topic worthy of discussion.

[Black Panther]

I have a pet peeve regarding videos. If one has not watched it, it is both irresponsible and lazy to put a video up. Do you expect me to watch and give you a report? There is no excuse for not vetting a video besides poor excuses. It is like finding what looks like food and offering to another without making sure it is edible.

I listened to the show last night and deemed it unsuitable for discussion here. If you had listened you may have too, or not, but at least you could have made an informed decision.

So, despite having listened to the show, I will not respond to it. Maybe BP will be kind enough to watch the show and discuss.

John is using to much victim language for my taste in this talk. His anger has clouded him a little on this subject. When I say a little, it is just that. I am going to try and make contact with John because of some plans of mine for the future. He is not hard to get a hold of. Things are moving very rapidly and some coordination might be synergistic.

BP, I know intended to do the right thing, but Sooz as a roll model is a poor choice. (She loves pizzzing me off, eh?) Are you looking to get your own smiley too? I also know you are not alone in this bad habit. Any video put down should find the depositor ready to discuss the contents. Not even knowing what the video contains is a unfathomable behavior from my stance as an adult. The cognitive dissonance is staggering.

One comment. It is odd that my discrepancies regarding language also finding me agreeing that the language John uses is probably the correct language to communicate to where consciousness exists for many people.

I'm kind enough to do whatever needs to b done for humanity and Gaia-Sophia, but to be honest
I'm too tired. A little bit SAD during this time of the year. And especially sad because of all the
people close to me dying of cancer and being awake and aware of what is causing all of this
is NOT easy.

Yes I agree it's not really a smart thing to share a radioshow without listening myself.
That's why I wrote that down BEFORE sharing. First of all was thinking of you at the moment
I saw the radioshow with John Lash and thought maybe you would like it.

Sometimes I am thinking of joining the Dark Ones on Earth, because doing good and trying
to make this world a better place is not a grateful job. Not at all.

:tiphat:

[modwiz]

I'm kind enough to do whatever needs to b done for humanity and Gaia-Sophia, but to be honest
I'm too tired. A little bit SAD during this time of the year. And especially sad because of all the
people close to me dying of cancer and being awake and aware of what is causing all of this
is NOT easy.

Yes I agree it's not really a smart thing to share a radioshow without listening myself.
That's why I wrote that down BEFORE sharing. First of all was thinking of you at the moment
I saw the radioshow with John Lash and thought maybe you would like it.

Sometimes I am thinking of joining the Dark Ones on Earth, because doing good and trying
to make this world a better place is not a grateful job. Not at all.

:tiphat:

You do not get it and sulk. I noted your good intention. Maybe you should listen to the show. John is proposing a solution.

Join the Dark Ones? Interesting reply. Just because I urge you to accept responsibility for what you post? You claim to want to help humanity/anthropos and then stand behind dropping an unwatched video into a thread as helping humanity/anthropos. Once again, your intention is noted.

BTW. As stated in an above post, humanity means monsters in legalese, (in videos posted weeks ago here) so Anthropos, the word of Gaia's creation in Greek, is my preferred word.

May I extend blessings to you and your family towards resolution of illnesses. Illness has a profound effect on those caring for them. May you be given strength to administer to them.

With love Martijn. Compassion is very misunderstood because what passes for common compassion is largley informed by enabling, empathy and sympathy. We all too often see empathy turn into hysteria and sympathy into enabling. Neither is compassion. Wisdom, not kind words alone, is the language of compassion. The unwise will not recognize it too often. Their emotional states are too fragile for wisdom.

[Black Panther]

You do not get it and sulk. I noted your good intention. Maybe you should listen to the show. John is proposing a solution.

Yes, am in a sulking mood. Tears are up to my ears, but still not being able to cry.
Four hands touching my body last week during first time Tantra and yes I was able to cry and release some of my pain.



Join the Dark Ones? Interesting reply. Just because I urge you to accept responsibility for what you post? You claim to want to help humanity/anthropos and then stand behind dropping an unwatched video into a thread as helping humanity/anthropos. Once again, your intention is noted.

Not being serious of course, but sometimes crosses my mind. Being frustrated / irritated seeing people completely being mind controlled slaves in Matrix. Working, reading papers, watching TV, sleeping
and next day pushing repeat button. Yes, I have to be the loving teacher, but being fed up with sheople a lot of the time too. Talking about Cognitive Dissonance. Do I love sheople or hate sheople ?



BTW. As stated in an above post, humanity means monsters in legalese, (in videos posted weeks ago here) so Anthropos, the word of Gaia's creation in Greek, is my preferred word.
So Anthropos it is.



May I extend blessings to you and your family towards resolution of illnesses. Illness has a profound effect on those caring for them. May you be given strength to administer to them.

With love Martijn. Compassion is very misunderstood becuase what passes for common compassion is largley informed by enabling, empathy and sympathy. We all to often see empathy turn into hysteria and sympathy into enabling. Neither is compassion. Wisdom, not kind words alone, is the language of compassion. The unwise will not recognize it too often. Their emotional states are too fragile for wisdom.
Thank you. And yes, I recognize sincere people.

[modwiz]

Yes, am in a sulking mood. Tears are up to my ears, but still not being able to cry.
Four hands touching my body last week during first time Tantra and yes I was able to cry and release some of my pain.



Not being serious of course, but sometimes crosses my mind. Being frustrated / irritated seeing people completely being mind controlled slaves in Matrix. Working, reading papers, watching TV, sleeping
and next day pushing repeat button. Yes, I have to be the loving teacher, but being fed up with sheople a lot of the time too. Talking about Cognitive Dissonance. Do I love sheople or hate sheople ?


So Anthropos it is.


Thank you. And yes, I recognize sincere people.

I appreciate our ability to communicate well and resolve what is now old news. I spoke my boundary, with extra comment (as is my tendency), you allowed us to understand the sense of urgency you are experiencing. You have company. The vid is here and so it is. Let it now be welcomed to truly put its troubled birth into the past. Good lesson in trauma management.

Our unity is too important for us not to be actively supporting each other, even as we "keep it real", which is not difficult when we truly care for one another and are each others keepers.

I acknowledge, with admiration, how well you dealt with my criticism and it elicits a warmth that is quite pleasant. Thank you.


I love/agape the anthropos, even the misanthropic.

[Shezbeth]

I have to be the loving teacher, but being fed up with sheople a lot of the time too.

Sometimes the most adequate teacher is he who recognizes inherently that he - for all his emergence - is yet a student.

The 'he' was in context, not meant to dismiss the feminine gender.



Sometimes I am thinking of joining the Dark Ones on Earth, because doing good and trying
to make this world a better place is not a grateful job.

I would suggest that if one is doing for or expecting gratitude, then they're operating at crossed purposes,... not unlike those who are commonly dismissed as Dark ones.

<flappy-flappy tent flaps>

[777]

I acknowledge, with admiration, how well you dealt with my criticism and it elicits a warmth that is quite pleasant. Thank you.


For once my being a useless eater and casual observer has proven bountiful. I applaud you both for impeccable, honest mediation, which evidences your humble intentions and acute, mutual understanding. That's a lovely thing to see. On which note....... :popc:

[modwiz]

Sometimes the most adequate teacher is he who recognizes inherently that he - for all his emergence - is yet a student.

The 'he' was in context, not meant to dismiss the feminine gender.




I would suggest that if one is doing for or expecting gratitude, then they're operating at crossed purposes,... not unlike those who are commonly dismissed as Dark ones.

<flappy-flappy tent flaps>

Teacher/student heads and tails of the coin and its own ouroboros. I never forget it and instruction is peripheral.

BP has given an excellent demonstration of being 'hit', destabilized, and then recovering with exquisite grace. We got to see grace, wisdom in its dynamic mode. Incoming, temporary interruption of homeo-stasis/balance/poise, absorption, processing and finally grace and recovery of poise. Beautiful example in real time. Black Panther made it possible and I am grateful for the process and outcome.

[modwiz]

For once my being a useless eater and casual observer has proven bountiful. I applaud you both for impeccable, honest mediation, which evidences your humble intentions and acute, mutual understanding. That's a lovely thing to see. On which note....... :popc:

Pleasure to make the life of administration easier too. Self-governance is key to freedom and godhood.

[Pris]

For once my being a useless eater and casual observer has proven bountiful. I applaud you both for impeccable, honest mediation, which evidences your humble intentions and acute, mutual understanding. That's a lovely thing to see. On which note....... :popc:

I have to agree -- that was AWESOME (sorry, like the word)! Wow, Modwiz, Black Panther, AND Shezbeth (about gratitude)... Wow! :D

Whatever you give, give freely. Draw gratitude from yourself.

[modwiz]

Ron put up a thoughtful and quietly empowering vlog. It is quite touching, as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMHzMjPDnyg

[modwiz]

I see the Annett story is seeping out more. He has a reply to Alfred but, I cannot listen to the interview. The set-up by the interviewer was off-putting for me. First question posed was about Alfred instead of the accusations themselves. Important to shape the character of Alfred before getting to the questions surrounding KA himself. It is alos not on you tube, so comments and thumbs up or down are not part of the process. If this is on you tube, I missed it.

Apparently, Kevin, is the current self appointed presiding president of Kanata. He has now used his position, as the head of a gubmint, to criminally charge Alfred and associated people. His personality profile is only substantiated by this sort of abuse of power. Going after his own, instead of the ones he claims to pursue. Bringing non-sovereigns to a court, they do not respect or attend, to little real world effect, while he goes after a fellow sovereign with the powers he bestowed upon himself in the formation of his sovereign nation of Kanata.

As Mel Brooks said, "It's good to be the king".

As Jim Dean at VT says, "You can't make this stuff up".

UPDATE

I listened to be on top of the story. My opinion invalidates itself if not informed of what I speak of. Two hours promoting KA and his contributions to his causes. A few minutes about the "charges" but the bulk of the interview has little to do with the story. There was nothing to miss.

[modwiz]

As I come to terms with a new cosmology, one that has lain beneath my feet, so do new perceptions arise. The re-arranging of a lifetime of perception that missed the biggest part, when existential questions came about. So I asked how. How did I miss Her consciousness beyond the more elementary 'Gaia' "the planet is alive' type of recognition. A goddess amongst a royal pantheon. Ho hum.

I got an answer, whether via MySelf or direct is not apparent to me, one is aligned with the other.

The fall was traumatic, the very DNA of Aeonic god-stuff changed into a form only weakly 'entangled' with the Pleroma. Communication experienced as the Anthropos perceives the Pleroma. Trauma causes shutdown. Elemental mastery develops. 2012 crossing galactic plane allows full re-connection of Sophia with Pleroma. Prior to the crossing was an awakening. The crossing created a "quickening" leading to the advent of Correction in March 2014. Sophia can now communicate and act. She acts primarily through us. It is meant to be interactive and synergistic. The Fallen Goddess Scenario is transforming into The Risen Goddess Scenario. There are brand new chapters to be written in the Sophianic narrative. The Anthropos narrative. It will stun the galaxy and then..........Bravo.

[Black Panther]

Sometimes the most adequate teacher is he who recognizes inherently that he - for all his emergence - is yet a student.

The 'he' was in context, not meant to dismiss the feminine gender.



Definately not implying I am only a teacher. Of course we are all student / teacher at the same time.

Great replies.

I have listened to the interview and it is very interesting. Maybe its not appropriate here,
but it's about Sophia's Correction and our part in it. Maybe a good idea to create
a new thread about the Kalika War Party. It resonates deeply and I am interested in other members' opinions.

From the website http://kalikawarparty.org/ : "Those who enter the Kalika War Party combine the roles of warrior and shaman"

Shamanism resonates deeply with me after experiencing Ayahuasca and last week I
encountered the word Knight everywhere. My name Martijn means "Brave Knight".
Also saw a picture of Glastonbury Tor of someone last week and I reacted:
"Have you found the Holy Grail, Guinevere ?"

Yes, I wanna give ALL. Imagine how strong we can be together!

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[modwiz]

The latest from Max Igan. YT has lessened his posting privileges to 15 minutes, so I present the podcast in its entirety. Another man who is tiring of saying the same thing over and over for 8 years. People claim to want freedom but, they wanted it delivered to their door. Max is starting a Full Circle project in 2015 to try and pave the way for some grassroots strategies for dealing with predatory gubmints and an apathetic population.

http://thecrowhouse.com/dl/MaxIgan_Freedom_Or_Fascism_The_Choice_Is_Yours_Sur viving_The_Matrix_AVR_Dec26th_2014.mp3

[sandy]

I resonate with Max Egan, thus encourage and support his works and words. :winner:

Thank you for including his literal frequency and Being.

[ronin]

sometimes or even for the most of us we feel the universe is crashing down on us.
one thing after another to test and weaken our personal awakenings.
we are given choice,to give in or to fight for what you believe and are becoming.
we seek internally,through searching and ask the big questions,only to have followed a path well trodden.
we have had a glimpse of what can be and a feeling of truth,love(agape) and the way how natural things should be.
but under the spell of a system that does not to encourage your development but hinder you,we know it is very difficult.

is it money that will set us free?helping with projects to empower people?

is it the archons that latch on to us draining our soul?

is there a loosh,that can be tapped into helping you in your life.

the gnosis are not a teaching but a way of life for many who lost their lifes from child,servant,women,priest and noblemen who would not conform to Christianity.
a whole believe system was destroyed!

hence the secret texts.

in the scheme of things who do we think we are?
what are lost too,that has mad us so greedy and want to enslave other people?
money?

there is a bigger picture......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIbfYsQfNWs

[PurpleLama]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=916639&viewfull=1#post916639

[modwiz]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=916639&viewfull=1#post916639

Please thank Dan for me. And thank you for posting.

[Pris]

in the scheme of things who do we think we are?
what are lost too,that has mad us so greedy and want to enslave other people?
money?


I'll just comment on the money part lol. When it comes to money, I agree with Michael Tellinger that it was deliberately introduced as a tool for enslavement. Yes, of course it encourages greed (and crime, corruption, you name it), but it doesn't necessarily make us want to enslave each other. The only ones that truly want to enslave anyone are the small group of psychopaths that control the money.

Money causes disparity. If we get rid of all forms of currency (including barter and trade) and learn to share everything equally, most of our woes will disappear. It's a bit more complicated than that, obviously... but not by much.

[Seikou-Kishi]

sometimes or even for the most of us we feel the universe is crashing down on us.
one thing after another to test and weaken our personal awakenings.
we are given choice,to give in or to fight for what you believe and are becoming.
we seek internally,through searching and ask the big questions,only to have followed a path well trodden.
we have had a glimpse of what can be and a feeling of truth,love(agape) and the way how natural things should be.
but under the spell of a system that does not to encourage your development but hinder you,we know it is very difficult.

is it money that will set us free?helping with projects to empower people?

is it the archons that latch on to us draining our soul?

is there a loosh,that can be tapped into helping you in your life.

the gnosis are not a teaching but a way of life for many who lost their lifes from child,servant,women,priest and noblemen who would not conform to Christianity.
a whole believe system was destroyed!

hence the secret texts.

in the scheme of things who do we think we are?
what are lost too,that has mad us so greedy and want to enslave other people?
money?

there is a bigger picture......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIbfYsQfNWs

Of course people worry. Of course they feel the universe crashing in on them. They feel like spinning tops scared that the next knock will either throw them to the ground or send them careering off in a directon they don't want to go.

People lack serenity. Serenity is not itself a protection against these things, but rather a stepping out of the world in which these things occur. Everybody is always scrabbling about for one reason or another. Some reasons feel bad, like fear, and others feel good, but all of them leave one scurrying about looking for hope in externalities. What is outside might be taken away and from here springs all clinging: greed, jealousy, possessiveness.

[777]

Serenity is not itself a protection against these things, but rather a stepping out of the world in which these things occur.

My gosh, what a sexy sentence. I'd never thought of it like that, so true thank you.

[modwiz]

I am seriously considering making videos covering topics that interest me and are relevant to discussions being had in certain circles. I will use my modwiz125 you tube channel. I will post the vids in this thread when they are made.

[modwiz]

Freedom, can we handle it? We have very little practice of it. So infrequent has our exercise of freedom been, that it has become a recessive gene.

The borders of civility have been based on a mixture of morals, laws and rules. All of them prevent the exercise of freedom. However, some parameters of cooperation will be needed to to prevent chaos.

Morals: Mainly what is in our heads, what we think about.... A free world would have ethics. Gaian ethics. An ethics that that is built from the ground up around who and what we are, where we are and where is our Creatrix.

Rules: Dead things on paper with the threat of punishment. Gaian Ethics operates on agreements. Living agreements between living humans. They have a 'shelf life'.

Laws: In Nature there are no laws of Physics, Thermodynamics, etc. We are observing the Ways of Physics, Thermodynamics, etc. These 'ways' produce the coherence we interpret as laws.

Ethics, Agreements and Ways. All alive in themselves and their practice as they cannot exist without flesh and blood. These are our native ways of interaction at the planetary Sovereign level.

When the scab of Admiralty and/or Roman/Canon Law is finally picked off and discarded we will need to have something to fill the vacuum.

A few thoughts to share.

[ronin]

I am seriously considering making videos covering topics that interest me and are relevant to discussions being had in certain circles. I will use my modwiz125 you tube channel. I will post the vids in this thread when they are made.

i hope you do as talking instead of the written word can sometimes help get the message across.

[modwiz]

i hope you do as talking instead of the written word can sometimes help get the message across.

Yes, I will be talking and showing my live face. I dislike typing and the limitations of communication nuances. I have been a paid speaker a good number of times and it is a skill I possess. Lack of live interaction will be new for me. Q & A play a huge part in my talks. I'll make use of any youtube comments made in that fashion. Whether I get comments, or views, is another story.:fpalm: People will let me know, "Should I stay or should I go?":ha:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH21LEmfbQ

Song for entertainment purposes only. I do not endorse the trouble threats. What a punk. Oh right, that was his genre.:p

[ronin]

Yes, I will be talking and showing my live face. I dislike typing and the limitations of communication nuances. I have been a paid speaker a good number of times and it is a skill I possess. Lack of live interaction will be new for me. Q & A play a huge part in my talks. I'll make use of any youtube comments made in that fashion. Whether I get comments, or views, is another story.:fpalm: People will let me know, "Should I stay or should I go?":ha:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqH21LEmfbQ

Song for entertainment purposes only. I do not endorse the trouble threats. What a punk. Oh right, that was his genre.:p

should you stay or go is up to you!
let the ego take control and you maybe disappointed.
let yourself speak truth of what you know without fear,criticism or a aloofness and you may see a change in people that you seek.

if you speak the truth you will not mind what people think!
expect criticism as well as support as this is a part of your becoming.
Sto is a important part of our evolution more than sts.

never try to think what the people think but say what you think and feel and what is right.
all the rest will fall into place.

[modwiz]

should you stay or go is up to you!
let the ego take control and you maybe disappointed.
let yourself speak truth of what you know without fear,criticism or a aloofness and you may see a change in people that you seek.

if you speak the truth you will not mind what people think!
expect criticism as well as support as this is a part of your becoming.
Sto is a important part of our evolution more than sts.

never try to think what the people think but say what you think and feel and what is right.
all the rest will fall into place.

Lose your sense of humor, Ronin?

That aside, your counsel is sound. Thank you.

[modwiz]

Here is something rare. A short video clip of Mark Passio. Anarchy definition. (Got this form a Hobbit post at PA)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh2WeAO-5tE

[Calabash]

Here is something rare. A short video clip of Mark Passio. Anarchy definition. (Got this form a Hobbit post at PA)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh2WeAO-5tE

That was particularly interesting because it brought the word Archon into focus for me, meaning ruler/master, whereas I think about the Archons as being a "solid" race, rather than formless. OMG I cannot fathom why I've never taken that in before - a real doh moment for me - lol (I'm going to sit quietly at the back:getcoat:)

[modwiz]

That was particularly interesting because it brought the word Archon into focus for me, meaning ruler/master, whereas I think about the Archons as being a "solid" race, rather than formless. OMG I cannot fathom why I've never taken that in before - a real doh moment for me - lol (I'm going to sit quietly at the back:getcoat:)

I thought he did a good job with that connection of dots and wanted to present it. A vision of the future will be aided by clarity. Archons are still a "race' whose involvement with the Anthropos is indicated in our word usage for rulers. Shows how long a history it is.

[Sooz]

I thought he did a good job with that connection of dots and wanted to present it. A vision of the future will be aided by clarity. Archons are still a "race' whose involvement with the Anthropos is indicated in our word usage for rulers. Shows how long a history it is.

I think I had the same reaction as Calabash. Definitely 'Shows how long a history it is'.

[Pris]

That was particularly interesting because it brought the word Archon into focus for me, meaning ruler/master, whereas I think about the Archons as being a "solid" race, rather than formless. OMG I cannot fathom why I've never taken that in before - a real doh moment for me - lol (I'm going to sit quietly at the back:getcoat:)

Yup. Archons are a**holes. Archonic control causes chaos. Sure explains why things are so messed up, doesn't it?

We are all slaves and we worship money -- the 'anti-Christ'. (I heard that somewhere, sounds good.) That's why we have to get rid of all forms of currency. That's why we have to abolish all governments.

Anarchy -- where we all come together, sovereign and free -- united and equal for the betterment of all, where each individual has a say.

[Pris]

Heed other words where 'arch' pops up.

Archangel, for example...

Do you want to be a slave? No one has power over you... unless you allow it.

We are meant to be free. That is our nature.

[modwiz]

Statism: The basic archontic organism. This articles is a well done way to look at how it finds a way to creep into our psyches.

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/12/29/7-signs-may-victim-statism/

[KosmicKat]

When the scab of Admiralty and/or Roman/Canon Law is finally picked off and discarded we will need to have something to fill the vacuum.

Perhaps it will not be necessary to pick it off. As the healing is completed the new tissue will be itchy and a little scratching will dislodge it easily when it is no longer needed.

[PurpleLama]

Perhaps it will not be necessary to pick it off. As the healing is completed the new tissue will be itchy and a little scratching will dislodge it easily when it is no longer needed.

Just put some castor oil on it, it will fall off on it's own.

[Seikou-Kishi]

That was particularly interesting because it brought the word Archon into focus for me, meaning ruler/master, whereas I think about the Archons as being a "solid" race, rather than formless. OMG I cannot fathom why I've never taken that in before - a real doh moment for me - lol (I'm going to sit quietly at the back:getcoat:)

Do you find significance in their being either solid or formless? You are both solid, insofar as anything or anyone is solid, and formless. Must these things be otherwise? Either one or the other, as opposed to both? These things can appear as solidly as the walls of your room and pass right through them, too — if you let them, of course ;-)

[Calabash]

Do you find significance in their being either solid or formless? You are both solid, insofar as anything or anyone is solid, and formless. Must these things be otherwise? Either one or the other, as opposed to both? These things can appear as solidly as the walls of your room and pass right through them, too — if you let them, of course ;-)

My expression wasn't very good - apologies. What I meant was that I thought that Archons were a type, like reptililians or greys, or British or Australian. However, as archon means ruler (as a common term) then archon could refer to any entity who fancies themselves as rulers. It could even be me, if I was badass enough - lol. (so that's what I meant by solid/formless).

I'm intrigued by "if you let them, of course", which infers that we can exert our own power over theirs. Could you elaborate on this point please SK ?

[ronin]

My expression wasn't very good - apologies. What I meant was that I thought that Archons were a type, like reptililians or greys, or British or Australian. However, as archon means ruler (as a common term) then archon could refer to any entity who fancies themselves as rulers. It could even be me, if I was badass enough - lol. (so that's what I meant by solid/formless).

I'm intrigued by "if you let them, of course", which infers that we can exert our own power over theirs. Could you elaborate on this point please SK ?

hope you do not mind if i jump in here and correct me if i am wrong on anything.
a Archon consumes your lifeforce and energy.
it is a etheric being but can attach itself to your physical body.leaching and draining you for it,s own survival.
some can resemble jellyfish and others may take a temporary physical form such as a larger being.
another name they have been called is a flyer as stated in the Carlos Castaneda books.
or simply a attachment!

there might be a rule that no attachment can be stronger than you but equal then the fight is fair!read that somewhere!

please correct me if i am on the wrong track.

[ronin]

concerning the red dragon family and the recent video,s.
they have released money to countries but only little of it has actually gotten where it was meant to!
this reminds me of our current charities,s system.
what projects are they willing to fund?
anyone could mention feed the homeless but if the family have so much money why would there be homeless people?
there are 7 billion people on the planet,the money could help all and everyone to start anew,equally.
but they say you will only receive as and when you need it!
there was a list of elite who are in the no flyzone list who are wanted for arrest against crimes of humanity!
will we see this actually happen?
what are the projects they are funding?

[Pris]

Statism: The basic archontic organism. This articles is a well done way to look at how it finds a way to creep into our psyches.

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/12/29/7-signs-may-victim-statism/


I agreed with all of it except for the part where it says there's nothing wrong with making money. Money was never intended to be used by us (the masses) as 'a tool to attain better experiences'. No matter how righteous the attempt to use it for good, always, money causes disparity. That is why it was introduced.

I seem to be preaching this everywhere I go and the resistance I receive has been mostly hostile. This is a hard one for people to swallow. Money is probably the most powerful religion of them all.

[sandy]

Hi ronin,

I'm of the understanding that change is needed and continuing to pass out money the way we have in this society does not work to empower people IMHO..........

Therefore, I continue observe, to see the types of programs that will emerge to empower individuals to look more intensely within themselves and with that learn how to reunite with their soul and thus be empowered through the potency of I am, versus who is the boss of passing out he money :)

This is where sovereignty takes hold along with deep roots of inner sanctuary, and no matter the storm, free will gains strength to continue to set one free from perceptions that get in the way of right action.

Just my 2 cents worth.


concerning the red dragon family and the recent video,s.
they have released money to countries but only little of it has actually gotten where it was meant to!
this reminds me of our current charities,s system.
what projects are they willing to fund?
anyone could mention feed the homeless but if the family have so much money why would there be homeless people?
there are 7 billion people on the planet,the money could help all and everyone to start anew,equally.
but they say you will only receive as and when you need it!
there was a list of elite who are in the no flyzone list who are wanted for arrest against crimes of humanity!
will we see this actually happen?
what are the projects they are funding?

[Melidae]

Interesting interview (in text form) on Jay Weidner's website entitled, "Rise of the Archons"...An interview with Jay Weidner on Rense Radio found at http://www.jayweidner.com/Archons.html.

It's an older interview that contains information on the Gnostics, Nag Hamadi, and the Archons.

[modwiz]

Interesting interview (in text form) on Jay Weidner's website entitled, "Rise of the Archons"...An interview with Jay Weidner on Rense Radio found at http://www.jayweidner.com/Archons.html.

It's an older interview that contains information on the Gnostics, Nag Hamadi, and the Archons.

I remember listening to that one and not liking how Jay takes archons out of their context, IIRC, like the majority of people do. Their is some conflation with archons and (my word) archonts. Archonts are humans who are operating under archontic influence to the point of acting, through archontic behavior, as an archon would if they had a body. One difference being an archont will have a human survival mechanism that will inhibit some archontic suggestions. If an archon, without human survival instincts were to enter a body, it would trash it. We do see some instances of that. Bottom line is, the archons are a distinct class of inorganic/non-physical being. That line must not be blurred if the meaning of the word archon, in its native context meaning of a specific inorganic life-form and not just the Greek rendering of "ruler" is to be kept clear. It goes without saying that most rulers have been archonts.

[Stoat muldoon]

I agreed with all of it except for the part where it says there's nothing wrong with making money. Money was never intended to be used by us (the masses) as 'a tool to attain better experiences'. No matter how righteous the attempt to use it for good, always, money causes disparity. That is why it was introduced.

I seem to be preaching this everywhere I go and the resistance I receive has been mostly hostile. This is a hard one for people to swallow. Money is probably the most powerful religion of them all.If you were in a vehicle and two trucks was infront of you and one hit the other . Both trucks turned over both drivers were ok . But the truck bust there contents onto the road , one content was apples the other truck contained cash , money, spondolicks . I wounder which would get pluck up first . I think we all know the answer to that one , I know cash is more a control system than a religion and the current system will end , I hope your all ready for it .

[Calabash]

I agreed with all of it except for the part where it says there's nothing wrong with making money. Money was never intended to be used by us (the masses) as 'a tool to attain better experiences'. No matter how righteous the attempt to use it for good, always, money causes disparity. That is why it was introduced.

I seem to be preaching this everywhere I go and the resistance I receive has been mostly hostile. This is a hard one for people to swallow. Money is probably the most powerful religion of them all.

I agree with you in principle Pris but when you start thinking things through it becomes difficult to see how any other system would work given our natures. It would (probably) turn out to be exactly the same if we did away with coin and adopted a different system because of our inherent greed, competitiveness and control (I'm talking collectively natch). What do you have in mind and how could it work?

[Melidae]

I remember listening to that one and not liking how Jay takes archons out of their context, IIRC, like the majority of people do. Their is some conflation with archons and (my word) archonts. Archonts are humans who are operating under archontic influence to the point of acting, through archontic behavior, as an archon would if they had a body. One difference being an archont will have a human survival mechanism that will inhibit some archontic suggestions. If an archon, without human survival instincts were to enter a body, it would trash it. We do see some instances of that. Bottom line is, the archons are a distinct class of inorganic/non-physical being. That line must not be blurred if the meaning of the word archon, in its native context meaning of a specific inorganic life-form and not just the Greek rendering of "ruler" is to be kept clear. It goes without saying that most rulers have been archonts.

Now regretting editing out the "discernment advised" with which I had originally ended my post.

I did find the interview gave a general overview that could serve as a base for further inquiry into the subject...as long as it was taken as one man's views. He gives a good description of their modus operandi that, once understood, can 'lift the veil' on them and their workings in the world...allowing one to shift their focus from the archons themselves toward eliminating their effect and freeing the world.

Once you see, you cannot unsee.

Thanks for the new word 'archonts'. It creates a needed distinction between the non-physical being and those acting under their influence...a necessity to further the clarity of discussions to those new to the subject.

[modwiz]

Now regretting editing out the "discernment advised" with which I had originally ended my post.

I did find the interview gave a general overview that could serve as a base for further inquiry into the subject...as long as it was taken as one man's views. He gives a good description of their modus operandi that, once understood, can 'lift the veil' on them and their workings in the world...allowing one to shift their focus from the archons themselves toward eliminating their effect and freeing the world.

Once you see, you cannot unsee.

Thanks for the new word 'archonts'. It creates a needed distinction between the non-physical being and those acting under their influence...a necessity to further the clarity of discussions to those new to the subject.

Melidae, does my critique of Jay's archon info seem correct to you? I seem to remember passing over that video for posting because of my concerns of accuracy. Now, I have some concerns for my memory.:ha: However, that only reflects my personal tastes on the subject. Jay is entitled to his take on things and he is an interesting fellow. So, it works for me that his work regarding the archons is here for consideration.

[Shezbeth]

Pris I agreed with all of your indicated post, except the included quote.


No matter how righteous the attempt to use it for good, always, money causes disparity.

I suggest that there always is and always be disparity simply because there will always be differences in ability, effort, and potential. A strapping young lass is likely to put forth greater physical effort than an aged man, as just one example. Differences in ability is a disparity, and even in an idealistic commune, there will always be those who can do more work and those who can do less. I'm not about to say that the current monetary system is in any way an ideal - or even acceptable - but I agree with the idea that there is nothing wrong with making money (as in, working hard and receiving appropriate remuneration), assuming it were possible to have money and not have it corrupted (which, I'll admit I can't imagine either).

Case in point: I worked my arse off for the past 6 mos - well above and beyond my 'peers' - and for my efforts I was rewarded with a promotion and a raise, overstepping several individuals with seniority in the process. Those 'senior' employees have sat back and not taken the slightest initiative or voluntarily applied themselves to the job, yet I have been doing so out of the gate. That is a clear example IMO of a person making money, at a disparity to those around them.

[Melidae]

Melidae, does my critique of Jay's archon info seem correct to you? I seem to remember passing over that video for posting because of my concerns of accuracy. Now, I have some concerns for my memory.:ha: However, that only reflects my personal tastes on the subject. Jay is entitled to his take on things and he is an interesting fellow. So, it works for me that his work regarding the archons is here for consideration.

The simple answer is yes...but...is it really lack of accuracy or lack of depth because of the interview process?

I would have preferred an article written by Jay regarding archons rather than the question and answer format. The leading questions and uninformed (imo) comments by Jeff has prevented a coherency of presentation...rather we get disjointed info in bits and pieces because of the interview format, and a lack of depth I personally find frustrating.

I reiterate my reason for posting...it generates interest and questions regarding the archons, and suffices as a precursor to further study for those new to the subject.

If you prefer, it is easy enough to remove the post. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

[modwiz]

The simple answer is yes...but...is it really lack of accuracy or lack of depth because of the interview process?

I would have preferred an article written by Jay regarding archons rather than the question and answer format. The leading questions and uninformed (imo) comments by Jeff has prevented a coherency of presentation...rather we get disjointed info in bits and pieces because of the interview format, and a lack of depth I personally find frustrating.

I reiterate my reason for posting...it generates interest and questions regarding the archons, and suffices as a precursor to further study for those new to the subject.

If you prefer, it is easy enough to remove the post. I have no problem with that whatsoever.

Melidae, my post was to let you know I am pleased that it is here. Not sure why that did not come out in my language. Very much agree about the interviewer. It would not be the first interview impeded in that way. I sometimes have to marvel at the patience some of these speakers show with some of the questioning angles. If I get the time, it will get another listen. Keeping up with new is a task, reviewing previous vids needs some extra time.

Once again, it is good for the interview to be here. Please do not remove it.

[Melidae]

You were clear...it is I who am a bit distracted at the moment.

Regarding your use of language...Should we all be as clear and thoughtful in our posts as you are in yours, there would be fewer misunderstandings and miscommunications.

[modwiz]

And now for something wholly appropriate. I am far sillier in person than my written style conveys. My videos will probably show that. I'll just have to make sure not too much.:nails:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGpVcdqeS0

[modwiz]

Conan does these videos once and awhile demonstrating the news anchors as script reading actors. This one shows tha gubmint at work programming you it is OK to spend money.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM8L7bdwVaA

[Pris]

I agreed with all of it except for the part where it says there's nothing wrong with making money. Money was never intended to be used by us (the masses) as 'a tool to attain better experiences'. No matter how righteous the attempt to use it for good, always, money causes disparity. That is why it was introduced.

I seem to be preaching this everywhere I go and the resistance I receive has been mostly hostile. This is a hard one for people to swallow. Money is probably the most powerful religion of them all.

I agree with you in principle Pris but when you start thinking things through it becomes difficult to see how any other system would work given our natures. It would (probably) turn out to be exactly the same if we did away with coin and adopted a different system because of our inherent greed, competitiveness and control (I'm talking collectively natch). What do you have in mind and how could it work?



Pris I agreed with all of your indicated post, except the included quote.


No matter how righteous the attempt to use it for good, always, money causes disparity.

I suggest that there always is and always be disparity simply because there will always be differences in ability, effort, and potential. A strapping young lass is likely to put forth greater physical effort than an aged man, as just one example. Differences in ability is a disparity, and even in an idealistic commune, there will always be those who can do more work and those who can do less. I'm not about to say that the current monetary system is in any way an ideal - or even acceptable - but I agree with the idea that there is nothing wrong with making money (as in, working hard and receiving appropriate remuneration), assuming it were possible to have money and not have it corrupted (which, I'll admit I can't imagine either).

Case in point: I worked my arse off for the past 6 mos - well above and beyond my 'peers' - and for my efforts I was rewarded with a promotion and a raise, overstepping several individuals with seniority in the process. Those 'senior' employees have sat back and not taken the slightest initiative or voluntarily applied themselves to the job, yet I have been doing so out of the gate. That is a clear example IMO of a person making money, at a disparity to those around them.

Thanks, Shezbeth. I appreciate how you're attempting to pull this apart and see 'reason' in the existing system of control. But, that's still all it is. Look -- it's got you doing 'backflips' just to get a promotion and a raise. When you slave a little harder, the system 'rewards' you. Does that make you 'feel' good? Do you feel good having to 'work your way up the ladder' that's been imposed upon you?

How does one define 'hard work'? If you 'work hard', you will be rewarded with money, status etc. Tell that to a dishwasher. Tell that to a janitor. Disparity again. Are those jobs any less important than ANY other occupation?

Are you a mule? Is that a carrot on a stick they're dangling for you? Are you going to spend your whole life jumping through their hoops and loops?

There is something very wrong with 'making money'. If I have to make money in order to survive, it comes between me and my needs and wants. It comes between me and my freedom.

Money sets us up to compete with one another, to try to 'outdo' the other guy -- to harm one another. This is NOT natural. We are setup to fight for the crumbs that are thrown at us. We are setup to be ruled over by others in every aspect of our lives. Do you have 'bills' to pay? What happens if you don't pay your electricity bill? Are you forced to use a car and put their gas into it? Do you really have 'choices' or is it perceived choice?

It's disparity, plain and simple. Someone else always has the advantage over you. You can never 'win' in a monetary system unless you're at the top -- but that means everyone else must suffer. Nothing good can come from money because it was introduced to enslave us -- the masses -- the Anthropos [thanks, Modwiz]).



For anyone interested, I suggest checking out these links that offer global solutions to the problems we are facing.

https://www.thevenusproject.com/en/

http://www.michaeltellinger.com/ubuntu-cont.php

If you're curious and would like to watch some videos, there are so many from both Jacque Fresco and Michael Tellinger, I don't even know where to begin.

[Pris]

This is for Shezbeth. There is one more point I wanted to add to this money disparity discussion.

Yes, there will always be people with differing skills and abilities. Some can and will work harder than others. Some won't be able to work at all. We will care for them. The idea is, without money, there is no incentive to take advantage of one another.

We use all our skills and abilities, instead, to help one another -- to make the world a better place. Everyone is equally important. It's about sharing everything equally and freely. You give of yourself freely because it feels good -- because it's the right thing to do. When everyone does this, all our needs and wants will be met. The result is a world of abundance for all.

Basic needs can be met with minimal time and effort. Beyond that, everyone will have all the time they need and access to whatever they require to do whatever their heart desires -- the intent being for the betterment of us all.

[norman]

Archons.

Are they, in some way, one and the same thing as the Archaloids ( the Sumerian 'gods' ) that were allegedly created androids by the very same ET species that created us out of apes and various ET DNA. ?

[ronin]

This is for Shezbeth. There is one more point I wanted to add to this money disparity discussion.

Yes, there will always be people with differing skills and abilities. Some can and will work harder than others. Some won't be able to work at all. We will care for them. The idea is, without money, there is no incentive to take advantage of one another.

We use all our skills and abilities, instead, to help one another -- to make the world a better place. Everyone is equally important. It's about sharing everything equally and freely. You give of yourself freely because it feels good -- because it's the right thing to do. When everyone does this, all our needs and wants will be met. The result is a world of abundance for all.

Basic needs can be met with minimal time and effort. Beyond that, everyone will have all the time they need and access to whatever they require to do whatever their heart desires -- the intent being for the betterment of us all.

if a person is brought up from childhood and encouraged in what he/she enjoys then they would naturally help others and enjoy themselves the pleasure they have created and others are reaping the benefits of their work.
what gives you great pleasure?the look on someones face of what you have created.

the question would be who would like to do all the menial tasks that help our society?
would you want to be a binman,a maker of a small part that requires a production line to make a product?

a NWO for the good would most definitely require a whole new way of thinking and letting go a lot of things that we think we rely on today.
being self sufficient would be a start.
but we rely on the internet,so who would want to make all those parts and run that system of things?

money cannot be given out willy nilly due to hyperinflation,but it may help in bringing down our structure today and help starting a new one.

[Catsquotl]

I am all for a world without money or an equivalent substance to symbolize energy transfer. That said the world would need a big makeover before such a thing can happen. for instance Even though I care for the people i work with. without the intensive of needing to provide for my family, there wouldn't be many people capable or willing to do what i do, meaning these people are left with their families to cope. In many cases I fear the outcome is awful for all that are left with that...

WIth Love
Eelco

Here's a link to the michael tellinger Ubuntu book.
http://jandeane81.com/threads/2413-UBUNTU-Contributionism-A-Blueprint-For-Human-Prosperity?p=17266&viewfull=1#post17266

[ronin]

I am all for a world without money or an equivalent substance to symbolize energy transfer. That said the world would need a big makeover before such a thing can happen. for instance Even though I care for the people i work with. without the intensive of needing to provide for my family, there wouldn't be many people capable or willing to do what i do, meaning these people are left with their families to cope. In many cases I fear the outcome is awful for all that are left with that...

WIth Love
Eelco

Here's a link to the michael tellinger Ubuntu book.
http://jandeane81.com/threads/2413-UBUNTU-Contributionism-A-Blueprint-For-Human-Prosperity?p=17266&viewfull=1#post17266

Eelco what would happen if your job was made redundant?
i do not mean that in a bad way as you are doing a wonderful sto in a society that relys on people like you.
but what if there was no need as there is technology that will help people in somuch they can get rid of most of the disease,s and health problems of the aged and infirm!

so a person would lead and live a natural life and die/move on without the help of a service such as yours but with the help of those who have learnt that are natural healers.
we do rely so much on society and we have become the cog in the machine,everything has been well thought out to ensure we stay that way.
money,health,riches choose whatever you may it is programmed into the system.
all apart from the bit where we are sovereign beings.
Dumbed down to serve others in their greed and manipulation.

what would happen if and when we turn all this around?
wants and needs would become a important question to self.

going back to basics will be a whole new chapter.

[donk]

A lot of what the universe has been telling me recently is about unlearning….about how we can never completely know WHAT IS—and it is perhaps more educational/useful to examine WHAT IT NOT….which is much more easily “knowable”


it becomes difficult to see how any other system would work given our natures. It would (probably) turn out to be exactly the same if we did away with coin and adopted a different system because of our inherent greed, competitiveness and control (I'm talking collectively natch). What do you have in mind and how could it work?

We need to unlearn the lie that greed and desire for control and competition is “human nature”. It is not in my nature, or what I think of as a HUMAN BEING.

Until we can change this mindset, it is getting ahead of ourselves to describe some sort of “system” to replace the current one. We need to understand that we don’t NEED systems. Rather than focus on modifying an anti-human, anti-life arrangement for how we live, we need to explore ways of pulling out the toxic ideas you feel are “human nature” and plant the truth in its place in the collective conscious—the ideas of empathy and personal responsibility being real human’s nature.

This song came on while posting:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvZIiiIMwbg

Followed by this (listening to my extensive spotify playlist):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtbrgV2objw&list=RDLtbrgV2objw#t=0

I don’t believe in accidents….

[ronin]

A lot of what the universe has been telling me recently is about unlearning….about how we can never completely know WHAT IS—and it is perhaps more educational/useful to examine WHAT IT NOT….which is much more easily “knowable”



We need to unlearn the lie that greed and desire for control and competition is “human nature”. It is not in my nature, or what I think of as a HUMAN BEING.

Until we can change this mindset, it is getting ahead of ourselves to describe some sort of “system” to replace the current one. We need to understand that we don’t NEED systems. Rather than focus on modifying an anti-human, anti-life arrangement for how we live, we need to explore ways of pulling out the toxic ideas you feel are “human nature” and plant the truth in its place in the collective conscious—the ideas of empathy and personal responsibility being real human’s nature.

and a good start to destabilizing our current society and introducing a new one would be?

[donk]

“Destabilization” implies that somehow society is “stable”. Another lie. The illusion of stability is based on our faith in the system, a good portion of that is the religion of money that Pris mentions.

I live by example, trying my best to disempower the concept of money and control…living the best I can, as freely as possible, DESPITE the way things are—bringing to anyone’s awareness the absurdity of it. Reminding everyone what it is to be human…what a gift life is and what a waste it is to live it on others’ terms.

I feel if I can get enough people to “buy in” to my ideas, perhaps we can get some sort of 100th monkey type effect. I believe that we can be the shift in the collective consciousness that we all pine for. I may be wrong…but at least in the process I am making that anyone around me understands the paradigm I choose to try to live, am attempting to create—it is the purpose of my presence, and I project it outward.

The result is locally, individually….those I choose to be around will be filled with this awareness—or get the f*ck away from me. It has served me well so far—all my “problems” become “challenges”, all the tragedies thrown my way serve as victories on another level…every experience a treasure.

I used to think of faith of believing in something you have no reason to…that there’s no evidence for. I have found it is that…but it is also powerful: my intent is to be the change I wish to see. The lies we are taught and learn to tell ourselves will not stand up to truth.

All is well.

[donk]

One of the biggest obstacles is that we need to disempower the straw men. It’s always someone else that is “empowering the system”, and we are supposedly helpless because of these “others” that can’t imagine anything different, as it is in their nature to be greedy and selfish.

Look long and hard at yourself…and ask if you are seeing things correctly. “UNLESS…”As long as these creatures with this “human nature” hide behind the “they” (and other generalizations like gov’ts, countries, organizations, corporations, etc.) label “…nothing is going to get better, it’s not”

We have to change our own thinking—and live it, completely…then project it outward.

http://barreloforanges.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/lorax1.jpg

[Calabash]

We use all our skills and abilities, instead, to help one another -- to make the world a better place. Everyone is equally important. It's about sharing everything equally and freely. You give of yourself freely because it feels good -- because it's the right thing to do. When everyone does this, all our needs and wants will be met. The result is a world of abundance for all.

Basic needs can be met with minimal time and effort. Beyond that, everyone will have all the time they need and access to whatever they require to do whatever their heart desires -- the intent being for the betterment of us all.

Thank you for this and your previous post Pris. I'm already aware (and a supporter of) the Venus Project but my point was that the world is not ready for a moneyless system. We (us here on the forum) could give it a go and make it work (though it wouldn't be easy I'm sure of it) but the collective "we" - as in the western world are a long way from such a system. I cannot see that we would (collectively) be in a position where it would work without a catastrophe of worldwide proportions and/or much discord, killing and bloodshed. That is not to say I cannot see it happening in the future.

There was a post on PA years ago about a forum member who had a lot of land which he offered up to other forum members at nil cost (some ex PA members might remember this). The upshot was that there was much back-biting about who was doing the most work/having the most input, there were arguments and the project became unworkable, with the host forum member bearing all the costs and everyone going their separate ways. IT DID NOT WORK OUT, even with the best intentions and the "more aware" members of our society.

This is not to say that we shouldn't be looking at better ways of living, working and sharing. We definitely should be. But imo it comes down to a question of HOW - how can it be done given the current state of affairs? Idealism -v- practicalities.

[Catsquotl]

Eelco what would happen if your job was made redundant?
i do not mean that in a bad way as you are doing a wonderful sto in a society that relys on people like you.
but what if there was no need as there is technology that will help people in somuch they can get rid of most of the disease,s and health problems of the aged and infirm!

so a person would lead and live a natural life and die/move on without the help of a service such as yours but with the help of those who have learnt that are natural healers.
we do rely so much on society and we have become the cog in the machine,everything has been well thought out to ensure we stay that way.
money,health,riches choose whatever you may it is programmed into the system.
all apart from the bit where we are sovereign beings.
Dumbed down to serve others in their greed and manipulation.

what would happen if and when we turn all this around?
wants and needs would become a important question to self.

going back to basics will be a whole new chapter.

I'd welcome it.
Don't see it happen though. It's not as if the people I work with are sick. Just very much like toddlers throwing tantrums. how do you deal with a 29 year old throwing an all out tantrum.

With love
Eelco

[modwiz]

Here is the latest video of the Ambassador with Ron. He really tells people where it is at with themselves. Bravo performance by him. Even calls them whiners and complainers like I do. Maybe he read a post of mine at Ron's site. LOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXEwIpuT20

[1inMany]

lol (I'm going to sit quietly at the back:getcoat:)

Well, honey, you just take that coat right off and come sit over here with me on this fluffy floor pillow. We'll just sit here quietly and listen. Until one of us gets bitten with the bug and has to jump up and say something. Or ask a question.

:smile2:

[modwiz]

Well, honey, you just take that coat right off and come sit over here with me on this fluffy floor pillow. We'll just sit here quietly and listen. Until one of us gets bitten with the bug and has to jump up and say something. Or ask a question.

:smile2:

Welcome back to the tent. You have been missed.

[1inMany]

Welcome back to the tent. You have been missed.

That was a kind thing to say, thank you. I got lost. I had to find Myself. Needed to get through some shyt, get some of it under control. It was dark in there. But I found a new tool that is quite remarkable. I will hang on to this for as long as I can, and maybe it won't go anywhere. That's my goal. Plus, honestly, I leave the looking up and looking around to those of you who are called to do so. I must look within right now. That doesn't give me much to contribute to the conversation. Just respecting your space :D

[sandy]

I agree with Donk :)

The dynamics of systems ie, money, can't change people and until we truly get that it starts with individual change, we will forever be locked into dysfunctional ways of being, acting and reenacting. Your example Calabash is ace.

Even though the Avalon participants were more aware they were not awake to themselves enough to get passed the angst of the detailed intricacies of human emotions. It is in the transition period of change that the fall out happens. Many cannot stand to be in limbo or hung up for periods of time and insecurity sets in causing emotional distress and chaos. The comfort of such feels familiar and thus begins to reign once again...................the new is not working, too uncomfortable, don't know what is happening, know nothing or feel incompetent, and on and on so lets go back to the old as at least we know the ins and outs of it.




Thank you for this and your previous post Pris. I'm already aware (and a supporter of) the Venus Project but my point was that the world is not ready for a moneyless system. We (us here on the forum) could give it a go and make it work (though it wouldn't be easy I'm sure of it) but the collective "we" - as in the western world are a long way from such a system. I cannot see that we would (collectively) be in a position where it would work without a catastrophe of worldwide proportions and/or much discord, killing and bloodshed. That is not to say I cannot see it happening in the future.

There was a post on PA years ago about a forum member who had a lot of land which he offered up to other forum members at nil cost (some ex PA members might remember this). The upshot was that there was much back-biting about who was doing the most work/having the most input, there were arguments and the project became unworkable, with the host forum member bearing all the costs and everyone going their separate ways. IT DID NOT WORK OUT, even with the best intentions and the "more aware" members of our society.

This is not to say that we shouldn't be looking at better ways of living, working and sharing. We definitely should be. But imo it comes down to a question of HOW - how can it be done given the current state of affairs? Idealism -v- practicalities.

[modwiz]

I see that the vid is not getting thanked. I get the hint. I will continue to post because some must like it. Viewership increases on the days the videos of the Ambassador post, so please bear with me.

[Shezbeth]

Sorry Pris - and Modwiz - but I'm gonna have to pick this one apart to get to the juicy bits,... nom nom.


Thanks, Shezbeth. I appreciate how you're attempting to pull this apart and see 'reason' in the existing system of control. But, that's still all it is. Look -- it's got you doing 'backflips' just to get a promotion and a raise. When you slave a little harder, the system 'rewards' you. Does that make you 'feel' good? Do you feel good having to 'work your way up the ladder' that's been imposed upon you?

For one, I imagine that that is very much the attitude employed by the individuals who didn't get the raise/promotion. When working with some of the applicants (prior to the job posting) I would inquire 'why not work harder/better?' at our normal job and almost to a man the response was 'I don't give a s---'. However, that's not so much the issue,... well it is (even for an idealized society like you envision) but not at the moment.

I didn't/don't work my arse off for 'approval' or even for the job/raise in question (the job was posted 2 weeks ago, and I began 6 months ago,... do the math), I do it because A. I am 'the man' and B. I Will continually emerge and constantly expand my threshold of capability. I do this by rigorously applying myself (to the point of exhaustion - rarely is there a day I wake up without sore muscles) and constantly challenging my skills and abilities; every day is a new opportunity for a new 'personal best'. If I had been passed over for the promo, I would still bust my arse at whatever it is I was doing! You have read my thread haven't you?

Recognize, it is precisely this type of attitude that could make a resource-based economy work; go ahead and re-watch Jaques Fresco talk about people making advances for the betterment of all involved,... what do you think he's talking about? Going the extra mile? Uh huh!


Money sets us up to compete with one another, to try to 'outdo' the other guy -- to harm one another. This is NOT natural.

You are displaying a curious ignorance of the dynamics of the animal kingdom. Oh now, I can almost hear you rebuking me for suggesting that we're animals, but as above so below.


It's disparity, plain and simple. Someone else always has the advantage over you. You can never 'win' in a monetary system unless you're at the top -- but that means everyone else must suffer. Nothing good can come from money because it was introduced to enslave us -- the masses -- the Anthropos [thanks, Modwiz]).

So cry about it! OR one can get over themselves and accomplish what they can. There's a very classic phrase,... sorry that its worded in a supplicatory direction, but I'm quoting it not writing it: Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.


Are you a mule? Is that a carrot on a stick they're dangling for you? Are you going to spend your whole life jumping through their hoops and loops? [...] There is something very wrong with 'making money'.

As usual, you're entitled to your opinion but sincerity does not equal veracity.

I do hope this horse is dead,....

[sandy]

I just listened to the video and support the Ambassador's concept of "War on Ignorance" ..............thus my point Re: ignorant to one's own emotional being..........

[Pris]

I am all for a world without money or an equivalent substance to symbolize energy transfer. That said the world would need a big makeover before such a thing can happen. for instance Even though I care for the people i work with. without the intensive of needing to provide for my family, there wouldn't be many people capable or willing to do what i do, meaning these people are left with their families to cope. In many cases I fear the outcome is awful for all that are left with that...

WIth Love
Eelco

Here's a link to the michael tellinger Ubuntu book.
http://jandeane81.com/threads/2413-UBUNTU-Contributionism-A-Blueprint-For-Human-Prosperity?p=17266&viewfull=1#post17266


I'm not sure I get the whole needing something to symbolize some kind of 'energy transfer'. Why do we need to quantify what we give? I give you 5 bananas so you have to come up with some kind of 'equivalent' to 'pay me back'? Not necessary. I just gave you 5 bananas. Enjoy.

[Catsquotl]

That´s what I meant. The current meme surrounding money is that it´s energy in stasis. Most new money ideas use some kind of similar structure to do away with things like interest and such. Only a few do away with the bartering concept all together.

With Love
Eelco

[Pris]

That´s what I meant. The current meme surrounding money is that it´s energy in stasis. Most new money ideas use some kind of similar structure to do away with things like interest and such. Only a few do away with the bartering concept all together.

With Love
Eelco

Yes, I'm afraid so. To get us off money completely, we probably need some kind of 'interim' money... at least interest free money 'owned' by the people. It's too bad... but people generally have difficulty with change even if it's for the better. You have to give it in small doses.

[Pris]

Thank you for this and your previous post Pris. I'm already aware (and a supporter of) the Venus Project but my point was that the world is not ready for a moneyless system. We (us here on the forum) could give it a go and make it work (though it wouldn't be easy I'm sure of it) but the collective "we" - as in the western world are a long way from such a system. I cannot see that we would (collectively) be in a position where it would work without a catastrophe of worldwide proportions and/or much discord, killing and bloodshed. That is not to say I cannot see it happening in the future.

There was a post on PA years ago about a forum member who had a lot of land which he offered up to other forum members at nil cost (some ex PA members might remember this). The upshot was that there was much back-biting about who was doing the most work/having the most input, there were arguments and the project became unworkable, with the host forum member bearing all the costs and everyone going their separate ways. IT DID NOT WORK OUT, even with the best intentions and the "more aware" members of our society.

This is not to say that we shouldn't be looking at better ways of living, working and sharing. We definitely should be. But imo it comes down to a question of HOW - how can it be done given the current state of affairs? Idealism -v- practicalities.


To be least disruptive, I do think we need an interim money system (that's interest free and 'owned' by the people) to 'wean' us off money. I just keep hoping the more we talk about a moneyless system, the more chance it has to take root. It's pretty drastic, I know. But, it's beautiful.

[Pris]

Money sets us up to compete with one another, to try to 'outdo' the other guy -- to harm one another. This is NOT natural.

You are displaying a curious ignorance of the dynamics of the animal kingdom. Oh now, I can almost hear you rebuking me for suggesting that we're animals, but as above so below.


Am I really? And, then you go on to quote:


Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

See, this is what makes us humans different. 'As above so below' with regard to the animal kingdom... You are not having this conversation with a lion, bear, wolf, or coyote (even though I may appear like one at times).

[Catsquotl]

Well as usual a lot has been tried and thought out.
A lot of alternative economies are emerging as we speak, all be it mostly under enthousiasts..

Some of the examples that worked out i am thinking of the swiss WIR bank for example. some even so good they have been shut down.
A fee economist with some good ideas was silvio gessell. there's a few of his more famous books translated in english. for a fictional strory by him in duts.
searcg for het wondereiland barataria. In here he describes how 500 families colonize an idsland and thrive up to the point where someone suggest an easier way to barter. then the people go through a few economic systems.. All of which make the living standard worse.. I don't think its translated in english though.

With Love
Eelco

[KosmicKat]

and a good start to destabilizing our current society and introducing a new one would be?

I give away whatever I can whenever I can. Last year a computer that I had repaired, to someone who needed one. Currently on offer, two e-books of short stories (written with the intention of encouraging people to make their own music) and three "sleep" recordings. More "stuff" accumulating constantly.

[Catsquotl]

The book i talked about above..
was released in 1922 as "Der verblüffte Sozialdemokrat" and later reprinted as "Die Wunderinsel Barataria"..
Both in german.

WIth Love
Eelco

Dutch pdf below..
http://letsruilkringemmen.net/images/barataria.pdf

[modwiz]

Happy New Year
With Philos and Agape to all.

Radagast

[modwiz]

Here is five and a half minutes well spent, IMO. My favorite sign borne by someone said "Occupy Your Heart".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGKogwbO240

[modwiz]

Dave Schmidt with a thoughtful New Year's Eve message. This man is coming along well, IMO.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ATPv4Ut96Y#t=854

[Calabash]

Is this the kind of video that you'll be doing shortly Modwiz?

[modwiz]

Is this the kind of video that you'll be doing shortly Modwiz?

Same kind of format for a recording. Hit record and speak. Since my material will be linking into similar story lines at times, there is another likeness. About the same length too. Give or take a few minutes.:)

[Melidae]

Nice job of tying together the various recent conversations on this thread through these last three videos you have brought to us, modwiz. Thank you. The We are Change.org video reinforced Ron's video with the Ambassador, and both were reinforced and expanded upon by Dave Schmidt.

Looking forward to your videos.

[modwiz]

Nice job of tying together the various recent conversations on this thread through these last three videos you have brought to us, modwiz. Thank you. The We are Change.org video reinforced Ron's video with the Ambassador, and both were reinforced and expanded upon by Dave Schmidt.

Looking forward to your videos.

I am smiling. I was curious whether others would see how they have linkage. This has been the highlight of my day. :D

[Melidae]

Don't know why, but this came to mind...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ


Happy New Year!


Heading out for a bit...will be back. Walking away....:whstl:Al-ways look on the bright si-de of life:whstl:

[Pris]

I am smiling. I was curious whether others would see how they have linkage. This has been the highlight of my day. :D

Dave Schmidt: "Life -- a flow of ease."

Yes, it's appreciated, Modwiz. :)


"The journey of faith." Dave explained that in a way that finally makes sense to me. And, I don't need to be religious to 'get it'.


"Memes are energy particles of our thoughts."

Looks like I have a lot of kittehs in mine. :)

http://cdn.weruletheinternet.com//wp-content/uploads/images/2012/march/kittens/cute_kitten_pictures_18.jpg

[modwiz]

I brought in my New Year talking with my long time acquaintance and friend, Lord Sidious. Actually, we were yacking as my midnight passed without notice. From 10PM till 1AM we skyped. T'was a good beginning of this year.:Knight:

[modwiz]

Ooh baby. Ron is on fire tonight. I have to post this video because it is in a class by itself. Ron goes on a 16+ minute rant about the cabal. Mainly.

It is a non-stop stream of consciousness in peevish mode. Quite remarkable in itself. Ron, as an adult will use words that adults use. It is quite an impassioned showing. I want to hug this guy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2olQg5e2JxM

[sandy]

WOW RON !! Now that is real and tangible in emoting, thoughts and resulting actions........ :rock:

hmmmmmmm could be a combo of frustration, ex-aspiration, fear, betrayal, helplessness, vengeance, abandonment, etc, under all that expressed, angry passion. May motivate those feeling the same :)

[1inMany]

Ooh baby. Ron is on fire tonight. I have to post this video because it is in a class by itself. Ron goes on a 16+ minute rant about the cabal. Mainly.

It is a non-stop stream of consciousness in peevish mode. Quite remarkable in itself. Ron, as an adult will use words that adults use. It is quite an impassioned showing. I want to hug this guy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2olQg5e2JxM

Passionate. Angels and thoughtforms, eh? Wants to learn magic. Hmmm. That's interesting.

[Calabash]

Ooh baby. Ron is on fire tonight. I have to post this video because it is in a class by itself. Ron goes on a 16+ minute rant about the cabal. Mainly.

It is a non-stop stream of consciousness in peevish mode. Quite remarkable in itself. Ron, as an adult will use words that adults use. It is quite an impassioned showing. I want to hug this guy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2olQg5e2JxM

Blimey - that was like watching one of the English Cabbie vids . . . .:shocked:

[modwiz]

It's a video kind of night. Gordon Duff interviewed by Ritchie Allen. A little over an half hour it is a smooth show. Gordon drops a few of his intel bombs, though they are nothing that has not been up on VT for a little time. Gordon is a mellower, by a bit, and may make listening to him easier. Some find Gordon a bit much.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRQ__MWhf6s

[modwiz]

May motivate those feeling the same :)

That was my thinking.

[sandy]

What a great idea and program for individuals and communities.! The app is very cheap and alerts your support circle when you are in trouble and need help, IE. police, fire. etc.......already being used and proving to be very successful and it is called the Peacekeeper App. It undermines some services we have been conditioned to believe we NEED....

sorry don't know how to embed but here is the link for those with a cell phone :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osY4bFHZViA

[Shezbeth]

Ooh baby. Ron is on fire tonight. I have to post this video because it is in a class by itself. Ron goes on a 16+ minute rant about the cabal. Mainly.

It is a non-stop stream of consciousness in peevish mode. Quite remarkable in itself. Ron, as an adult will use words that adults use. It is quite an impassioned showing. I want to hug this guy.

I'll tell you what Modwiz, every time I saw an 'Ambassador video' posted, I was tempted to click. Some intrinsic part of me suggested 'not yet, but soon'.

Well the time has come and after watching (listening while doing dishes to) this video, I will be delving into all the material you have graciously provided. I look forward to contributing to that part of the conversation.

I hope you wont mind if I start posting these in the slums,.... I'll give due credit. ^_~

<flappy flappy tent flaps>

[Pris]

Ooh baby. Ron is on fire tonight. I have to post this video because it is in a class by itself. Ron goes on a 16+ minute rant about the cabal. Mainly.

It is a non-stop stream of consciousness in peevish mode. Quite remarkable in itself. Ron, as an adult will use words that adults use. It is quite an impassioned showing. I want to hug this guy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2olQg5e2JxM

Holy c**p!! O_O

This had me clapping with agreement, tearing up and cheering through the whole thing!!!!

With the few VERY positive comments made already, I thought I'd save it for this evening and just finished watching it with my partner... I felt it would be special and wanted to share it! Wow, that was unexpected -- it was INCREDIBLE! LOVED IT!! ^_^ Ron -- what a guy!! Thank you, Ron!

And, thank you, Modwiz, for sharing this!!

[Sooz]

What a great idea and program for individuals and communities.! The app is very cheap and alerts your support circle when you are in trouble and need help, IE. police, fire. etc.......already being used and proving to be very successful and it is called the Peacekeeper App. It undermines some services we have been conditioned to believe we NEED....

sorry don't know how to embed but here is the link for those with a cell phone :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osY4bFHZViA

Thanks for that Sandy. I'm going to look into it. Very helpful.

Edit: Mmmm, looks like it's only for an android phone or iphone. I have a basic dumb-phone. Still a great idea though! (I suppose at some stage I'm going to have to get a 'smart' phone, to keep up with things, sigh...)

[modwiz]

Here is an almost two hour long "interview" with Gordon Duff. One does not really interview GD. He is a force of Nature and about as popular as a tornado with some. Shortly after the half hour mark GD comes back for a second part and call-ins. It is slow stuff but, I listened in one sitting. There is a big focus on aliens and gubmints. Especially Merika's. Found it pretty interesting. Especially the last few minutes when GD makes things personal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSk4w-JDE14

[Sooz]

Thanks Modz for all your hard work posting this interesting information. I'm finding it hard to keep up.

11.30pm here at night. So much to watch and listen.

All good stuff though. I wish I had more hours in the day. :yawn:

Just want to say thanks for all that you do. It does not go un-noticed.

It's the weekend (Friday night) and no work for me tomorrow, so I may get a second wind....;)

[PurpleLama]

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[modwiz]

Thanks Modz for all your hard work posting this interesting information. I'm finding it hard to keep up.

11.30pm here at night. So much to watch and listen.

All good stuff though. I wish I had more hours in the day. :yawn:

Just want to say thanks for all that you do. It does not go un-noticed.

It's the weekend (Friday night) and no work for me tomorrow, so I may get a second wind....;)

Hey Sooz, thankz for the propz. (I love pizzzing myself off).

I just found a two our chat with Lisa Harrison and her One People discussing her interview with John Lash. It's called The One People Round Table. I am just about to begin it and will probably go up after I vet it. It is fortunate I have so much free time in the Winter.

[Melidae]

Loved Ron's video...righteous anger...indeed.

I reached my 'boiling point' over a year ago and expressed it in a post made over in the slums September 1, 2013. Don't know how to link it here, but it can be found in general discussion, How to Heal the World, post #343. To quote it:



Just read the above quoted post, and love that whole post, Christine. It has rung so true after an experience I had this morning...almost as a confirmation.

The words "NO! I DO NOT AGREE!" resounded so loudly I turned myself around to see who said it...but no one was there...I was alone.

That has been bouncing around in my head all day...and the only conclusion I could come up with is that by using intent followed by a clear, emphatic "NO! I DO NOT AGREE" (to their 'games', wars, intentions towards us and Gaia) we are to take a firm stand.

How many agreements are made through our many lifetimes because we remained silent, not choosing one thing or another...or worse yet, not realizing that a choice must be made? War with Syria? NO! I DO NOT AGREE! False flag in the US? NO! I DO NOT AGREE! The poisoning of our food...our air...our oceans, seas, lakes and groundwater...NO! I DO NOT AGREE! I will no longer remain silent, hoping it will go away if I just (fill in the blank)...I will stand firm in my truth, my power and back it up with action.

Every fiber of our being (body, mind (both halves), and spirit) must be in agreement that their reign of terror must end and we will do what is necessary to make that happen. War? Yes...but a war clearly stated in Ephesians 6:12...

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." King James Bible

We have the tools and the strength of purpose to end their nonsense and shut them down....it is having an effect. Individually we are powerful...together we can heal the world and create paradise.

Belle
Spiritual Warrior


And now, onto watching the Gordon Duff videos posted...

[Sooz]

Hey Sooz, thankz for the propz. (I love pizzzing myself off).

I just found a two our chat with Lisa Harrison and her One People discussing her interview with John Lash. It's called The One People Round Table. I am just about to begin it and will probably go up after I vet it. It is fortunate I have so much free time in the Winter.

Thanxz Modz, going to bed now.

Sooz

[modwiz]

I really enjoyed both the introspective and retrospective spirit of this round table. Another title for this conversation could be recovering new agers having a new agers anonymous meeting. The controversial idea of the Kalilka War Party, conceived by JL is discussed and then the focus drops though the quandary of 'response' informs the rest of the content here and there. Clear focus is given to how the alt community has been exposing and how it is now time for that community to start opposing. Conversation on that topic ensues.

I really like Lisa Harrison. She is the real deal. Very dynamic in spirit and always moving herself forward with the things she is learning on her path. I like her balance.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoXFej0dgIU

[modwiz]

As a quick follow-up to my chat with Lord Sid, I have come to conclude that the title of Lord is not sufficient. Those who know him and his spirit would perceive that he is no less than a Duke. I chose the rank with care. If reference to The Duke is made, it refers to Rob. I do not expect others to emulate my silliness.:p

[modwiz]

The Ambassador wanted to share some information so here is Ron, Ambassador and one other person who speaks briefly. Things are starting to unfold. Rapidly. Consciousness is reaching a critical level. Especially as regards needing to oppose and not just expose.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOvNaY8B2TQ

[Pris]

As a quick follow-up to my chat with Lord Sid, I have come to conclude that the title of Lord is not sufficient. Those who know him and his spirit would perceive that he is no less than a Duke. I chose the rank with care. If reference to The Duke is made, it refers to Rob. I do not expect others to emulate my silliness.:p

Yes... I do have difficulty with rank. ;)

[Catsquotl]

Yes... I do have difficulty with rank. ;)

I wouldn't have guessed that in a million years.
oh wait....

With love
Eelco

[Pris]

Thanks for that Sandy. I'm going to look into it. Very helpful.

Edit: Mmmm, looks like it's only for an android phone or iphone. I have a basic dumb-phone. Still a great idea though! (I suppose at some stage I'm going to have to get a 'smart' phone, to keep up with things, sigh...)

Word of caution: anything with the word 'Smart' stamped on it is probably going to harm you (eg. smart appliances, Smart Meters etc.). Hey, let's not beat around the bush. A cell phone will harm you. If it's 'Smart', you'll get spied on with the added bonus of being fried. I think I smell fish 'n' chips...

[sandy]

Hmmmmm, sorry can't meet expectations as this won't stop running around in my head, thus have to say, I like it and would add to it, if permitted >>>>the "Duke of Hazards" :nails: :getcoat:


As a quick follow-up to my chat with Lord Sid, I have come to conclude that the title of Lord is not sufficient. Those who know him and his spirit would perceive that he is no less than a Duke. I chose the rank with care. If reference to The Duke is made, it refers to Rob. I do not expect others to emulate my silliness.:p

[modwiz]

Might hate myself for putting this here but, it is how I feel about the internet some days, LOL.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPkTGm4RtVM

[modwiz]

Hmmmmm, sorry can't meet expectations as this won't stop running around in my head, thus have to say, I like it and would add to it, if permitted >>>>the "Duke of Hazards" :nails: :getcoat:

Oh, please do. Nuggets are awarded for hazarding a pun.

[sandy]

Hey Pris,

As a Grandmother of three beautiful teenage Granddaughters who carry their cells phones consistently throughout their travels :( I see this APP as a safety net with them at all times............and I like the sense of security and empowerment it presents in facilitating assistance much quicker than the police, and other such type services can return.

Cell phones are a reality for most, even though I do not abide by such a tool or possess one, due to it's many downfalls. In saying this for those who do and are in need of readily available support or assistance, it could be a God send and even life saver.

If I did have a cell phone I would download this APP for less than the 5.00 dollar one time cost. I would do it without hesitation for the sense of empowerment in managing my health and welfare through calling on those who know and love me first and foremost when the need to do so was imminent and then outside services if need be.

Also this APP would be a valuable asset for any seniors living alone and or disabled individuals who pay monitoring alert services monthly at a much more costly price. Just the realities of this world.

In the end, this Peacekeepers App facilitates greater independence from government services and for that I see it as a progressive step toward taking power back and to me that is what this New Year is all about. :winner:

=Pris;841892282]Word of caution: anything with the word 'Smart' stamped on it is probably going to harm you (eg. smart appliances, Smart Meters etc.). Hey, let's not beat around the bush. A cell phone will harm you. If it's 'Smart', you'll get spied on with the added bonus of being fried. I think I smell fish 'n' chips...[/QUOTE]

[Catsquotl]

Being the pacifist I am. I am having serious doubts about the let's oppose those in power. The kaliga-war party. etc.
Not sure how things will unfold yet, but to me it feels like a set-up. could be cognitive dissonance kicking in though.

checked out the peacekeeper app just now.
Not the big net I hoped for. so no use on a train station, Just in your neighborhood with the people you accepted as guardians..
And a lot of info on how to "protect" yourself using firearms.


: Life is total war my friend... nobody has a right to be a conscientious objector.

With Love
Eelco

[Pris]

Hey Pris,

As a Grandmother of three beautiful teenage Granddaughters who carry their cells phones consistently throughout their travels :( I see this APP as a safety net with them at all times............and I like the sense of security and empowerment it presents in facilitating assistance much quicker than the police, and other such type services can return.

Cell phones are a reality for most, even though I do not abide by such a tool or possess one, due to it's many downfalls. In saying this for those who do and are in need of readily available support or assistance, it could be a God send and even life saver.

If I did have a cell phone I would download this APP for less than the 5.00 dollar one time cost. I would do it without hesitation for the sense of empowerment in managing my health and welfare through calling on those who know and love me first and foremost when the need to do so was imminent and then outside services if need be.

Also this APP would be a valuable asset for any seniors living alone and or disabled individuals who pay monitoring alert services monthly at a much more costly price. Just the realities of this world.

In the end, this Peacekeepers App facilitates greater independence from government services and for that I see it as a progressive step toward taking power back and to me that is what this New Year is all about. :winner:

=Pris;841892282]Word of caution: anything with the word 'Smart' stamped on it is probably going to harm you (eg. smart appliances, Smart Meters etc.). Hey, let's not beat around the bush. A cell phone will harm you. If it's 'Smart', you'll get spied on with the added bonus of being fried. I think I smell fish 'n' chips...

Oh, hey, don't take it personal! Before they came along, we all got by just fine. Besides, I'm certain there is SAFE technology that 'they' simply do not 'allow' us to have. And, until the day ANY and ALL technology will not be used against us, I shall remain opposed.

[Pris]

Might hate myself for putting this here but, it is how I feel about the internet some days, LOL.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPkTGm4RtVM

Hear, hear. :p

[modwiz]

Being the pacifist I am. I am having serious doubts about the let's oppose those in power. The kaliga-war party. etc.
Not sure how things will unfold yet, but to me it feels like a set-up. could be cognitive dissonance kicking in though.

checked out the peacekeeper app just now.
Not the big net I hoped for. so no use on a train station, Just in your neighborhood with the people you accepted as guardians..
And a lot of info on how to "protect" yourself using firearms.



With Love
Eelco

Opposition, IMO, is best done in/as a psychological 'stance', then extra as needed.

I'm keeping my comments until the videos come out. I need to speak the enormity and nuances of where I stand on JL's take on things. I see his message in different parts. Some baby and some bathwater. Nuff said for now.

[ronin]

the cabal is coming down!

we all heard of this a long time ago but now it has gone mainstream....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30659629

[ronin]

in what i have seen in the Ron and Ambassador videos so far it seems it has struck a chord.
i just hope that we will all make the difference and change that is needed.
anyway i wrote something and i know it is amateur but i hope you enjoy it.
i felt it apt to put it here.

moving on

enough has been done
a new march has begun.
falseness and lies fall away.
to prepare for a new day.

a dance we shall all learn
going forward and letting go
no way back just let your love show.

be it now or be it never.
this is the chance of change.
a creative being fighting forth.

a smile from a strangers eye,s.
a helping hand that knows no greed.
no more lies.
you take heed.

be as one and empower yourself
helping others see what is right.
no more lies,no more fights.

moving on,new days coming
eagles soar watching from above
looking down looking for the love.
never have you been alone.
although so much bad has been done.
give in and let go.
be as one and let nature show.

the life you where meant to live.

a dance that you choose.
no lies and no hurt.
but a being of creation in the palm of god.

let the owl be your eyes in the dark.
let the panther be your protection.
let the tree’s guide you .
back to a home that we forgot.

[Melidae]

I have been going over and over the video of Ron, Gwen and the Ambassador since yesterday. There are some things that were said by the Ambassador, seemingly in passing, that made me sit up and pay attention. Perhaps they would make more sense or aid in my understanding if there were more context surrounding these comments.

I have read all the comments on yt...they seem to focus on the pope and taking down the cabal and not on the following:

At about 20:12, speaking about the cabal, the Ambassador says, '(they) are not untouchable for the creator or for the other beings he has sent.' He also mentions not to upset the other beings that have been sent. Who/what are they...what would cause them upset...what are the repercussions should they get upset?

At about 20:18 he says, 'people don't be traumatized about losing people. You should be traumatized for the fact that these people might cut your head off if you don't do what's right.'...who might cut your head off if you don't do what's right????

At about 22:43 he says, 'Hope the 9 generation system is not going to be needed to be implemented on you guys.'...what is the 9 generation system and what would create a need for it to be used???

At about 25:18 he says, '...bring forward the dragon, take control of the planet and set people free.' Does he mean the dragon family or....?

They did sound like warnings, possibly even threats, should we fail this 'test' (test is my word). I get the impression, based on this little bit with no further information, that we are being judged...almost sounds like the 'last' judgment prior to the thousand year peace spoken of in the book of revelation.

This is getting serious. There is much we do not know.

I could be way off, but a little clarification would go a long way to understanding exactly what he is saying/meaning.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I have been going over and over the video of Ron, Gwen and the Ambassador since yesterday. There are some things that were said by the Ambassador, seemingly in passing, that made me sit up and pay attention. Perhaps they would make more sense or aid in my understanding if there were more context surrounding these comments.

I have read all the comments on yt...they seem to focus on the pope and taking down the cabal and not on the following:

At about 20:12, speaking about the cabal, the Ambassador says, '(they) are not untouchable for the creator or for the other beings he has sent.' He also mentions not to upset the other beings that have been sent. Who/what are they...what would cause them upset...what are the repercussions should they get upset?

At about 20:18 he says, 'people don't be traumatized about losing people. You should be traumatized for the fact that these people might cut your head off if you don't do what's right.'...who might cut your head off if you don't do what's right????

At about 22:43 he says, 'Hope the 9 generation system is not going to be needed to be implemented on you guys.'...what is the 9 generation system and what would create a need for it to be used???

At about 25:18 he says, '...bring forward the dragon, take control of the planet and set people free.' Does he mean the dragon family or....?

They did sound like warnings, possibly even threats, should we fail this 'test' (test is my word). I get the impression, based on this little bit with no further information, that we are being judged...almost sounds like the 'last' judgment prior to the thousand year peace spoken of in the book of revelation.

This is getting serious. There is much we do not know.

I could be way off, but a little clarification would go a long way to understanding exactly what he is saying/meaning.

Perhaps the only repercussion for interference would be that these things are less able to do what they came to do. Not saying that's the case, of course, but it's a possibility.

The 9 generation system sounds like the old Chinese practice of dealing with the most serious of convinct by destroying their family "to the nth generation". Say a cabal sort was convicted, it might be that anybody related to them by fewer than 9 generations would be killed.

[ronin]

the ninth generation could be a total wipeout and reset.
the lords of red and black have had to make a decision.
this has happened a few times in the past.

sometimes a virus has to be eradicated for the benefit of all the others.
for the benefit of all life such a action may have to be implemented.
this would be a difficult time for people to perceive but a necessary one.
but let it not be forgotten that they where given a choice.

[ronin]

i think we would all prefer that those that have controlled us would hold up their hands and accept their wrongdoings.
but can we see that actually happening?
they will fight tooth and claw to hold on to what they think they possess.

the time is to let them go.
with love.

[Melidae]

Perhaps the only repercussion for interference would be that these things are less able to do what they came to do. Not saying that's the case, of course, but it's a possibility.

The 9 generation system sounds like the old Chinese practice of dealing with the most serious of convinct by destroying their family "to the nth generation". Say a cabal sort was convicted, it might be that anybody related to them by fewer than 9 generations would be killed.

Thank you for your insights, SK, especially about the '9 generation system'.

I realize my own impatience for information and knowledge. Being 'spoon fed' information is not to my liking...preferring the whole picture to be placed at my disposal to study, digest and contemplate before a personal choice regarding the information can be made.

Be that as it may, 2015 is going to be a very interesting year.

[ronin]

in the video there is a picture of a anunnaki within a coffin and it,s ornaments around it.
apparently this was the first picture ever disclosed but it seems nobody has picked up on it?
or they do not know what to make of it?

the Ambassador is using 2 and 3 parties to get his message across.
what would be interesting would be a open q and a with the red dragon society.
this would help in people making their own minds up and also their message being spread.

ps
.this picture was poor and was deliberaty shown.as we have much more advanced photographic technology available to us now.

[Catsquotl]

Perhaps the only repercussion for interference would be that these things are less able to do what they came to do. Not saying that's the case, of course, but it's a possibility.

The 9 generation system sounds like the old Chinese practice of dealing with the most serious of convinct by destroying their family "to the nth generation". Say a cabal sort was convicted, it might be that anybody related to them by fewer than 9 generations would be killed.

Maybe up to 9 degrees of separation.
That would leave roughly the amount the nwo would like to have left maybe?

WIth Love
Eelco

[Pris]

At about 20:18 he says, 'people don't be traumatized about losing people. You should be traumatized for the fact that these people might cut your head off if you don't do what's right.'...who might cut your head off if you don't do what's right????

Umm... maybe what is meant by this is don't be bothered by 'death' (it's a natural transition anyway).

Don't allow yourself to be threatened by the Cabal (or anyone else) with death to do their bidding -- that is what must not be tolerated.

It's better to die on your feet -- standing against them -- than lie grovelling at their feet.

[modwiz]

I have been going over and over the video of Ron, Gwen and the Ambassador since yesterday. There are some things that were said by the Ambassador, seemingly in passing, that made me sit up and pay attention. Perhaps they would make more sense or aid in my understanding if there were more context surrounding these comments.

I have read all the comments on yt...they seem to focus on the pope and taking down the cabal and not on the following:

At about 20:12, speaking about the cabal, the Ambassador says, '(they) are not untouchable for the creator or for the other beings he has sent.' He also mentions not to upset the other beings that have been sent. Who/what are they...what would cause them upset...what are the repercussions should they get upset?

At about 20:18 he says, 'people don't be traumatized about losing people. You should be traumatized for the fact that these people might cut your head off if you don't do what's right.'...who might cut your head off if you don't do what's right????

At about 22:43 he says, 'Hope the 9 generation system is not going to be needed to be implemented on you guys.'...what is the 9 generation system and what would create a need for it to be used???

At about 25:18 he says, '...bring forward the dragon, take control of the planet and set people free.' Does he mean the dragon family or....?

They did sound like warnings, possibly even threats, should we fail this 'test' (test is my word). I get the impression, based on this little bit with no further information, that we are being judged...almost sounds like the 'last' judgment prior to the thousand year peace spoken of in the book of revelation.

This is getting serious. There is much we do not know.

I could be way off, but a little clarification would go a long way to understanding exactly what he is saying/meaning.

Yes, things are getting serious. The cabal is making it so. I am glad you picked up on those things. Those little phrases are what I listen for. It is purposely done, subtle but right in your face. He has dropped a phrase or two in his other talks and one or two 3-5 words phrases that can slip right by. The Dragon family can probably tell us more about disclosure, within an historical context, than any gubmint agency. In fact, they can probably trace their family line to one or the other ET race.

Ambassador had mentioned a Q and A with Ron, like he has done with Dave, which would be helpful with certain statements made. I know this will all become clearer as this story unfolds.

[Pris]

This may be somewhat out-of-place, but I wanted to share this with you guys.

It's my own 'view' in the moment (gleaned from countless 'teachers'.. which can change), so please don't judge me too harshly. :)

I wrote this to a friend (raised as a Christian) who just lost a pet. He said he still believes in a place like 'heaven' and thinks his little friend went there, but he no longer believes in God.

So, to encourage him, here's what I wrote:

There is definitely 'the other side'. I've been there in out-of-body experiences. I've heard that 'death' is exactly like having an OBE except that you are no longer 'connected' to your physical body. That connection gets cut when the body dies. And, then the spirit often decides to 'reincarnate' back into another body... because it's fun... for learning, for growth, for experience -- to play. It's never-ending. The spirit never dies.

I think this happens to all animals -- all life. All life is spirit like us humans (inhabiting at least two plains of existence!). We're all travelling the same spiritual path -- it's just that some are 'further along' the path than others. Animals are literally our little brothers and sisters. This also includes the plants and insects... all life. As for consciousness in general, it's in everything -- air, earth, water, fire... the rocks and stones. Consciousness is in you and me. What makes us so 'special' is that we're self-aware creative consciousness. We ARE the god-spark -- from 'God'. We are the creator(s). So, in a way, there IS 'God', IMHO. We are the expression AND the manifestation of 'God'. :)

We are all individual, unique drops of 'spirit' sharing the same ocean of consciousness.


ps when I say 'spirit', I also mean 'soul' -- that unique spiritual 'container' that is you. :)

[modwiz]

Max Igan is still limited to 15 minute vids by YT. So, since I like Max's graphics, this post will include the first 15 minutes of video and below will be the entire podcast.

Creating The New Tribe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tjzq92Dqwc

http://thecrowhouse.com/dl/MaxIgan_Creating_The_New_Tribe_Surviving_The_Matri x_AVR_Jan02_2015.mp3

[Stoat muldoon]

This may be somewhat out-of-place, but I wanted to share this with you guys.

It's my own 'view' in the moment (gleaned from countless 'teachers'.. which can change), so please don't judge me too harshly. :)

I wrote this to a friend (raised as a Christian) who just lost a pet. He said he still believes in a place like 'heaven' and thinks his little friend went there, but he no longer believes in God.

So, to encourage him, here's what I wrote:

There is definitely 'the other side'. I've been there in out-of-body experiences. I've heard that 'death' is exactly like having an OBE except that you are no longer 'connected' to your physical body. That connection gets cut when the body dies. And, then the spirit often decides to 'reincarnate' back into another body... because it's fun... for learning, for growth, for experience -- to play. It's never-ending. The spirit never dies.

I think this happens to all animals -- all life. All life is spirit like us humans (inhabiting at least two plains of existence!). We're all travelling the same spiritual path -- it's just that some are 'further along' the path than others. Animals are literally our little brothers and sisters. This also includes the plants and insects... all life. As for consciousness in general, it's in everything -- air, earth, water, fire... the rocks and stones. Consciousness is in you and me. What makes us so 'special' is that we're self-aware creative consciousness. We ARE the god-spark -- from 'God'. We are the creator(s). So, in a way, there IS 'God', IMHO. We are the expression AND the manifestation of 'God'. :)

We are all individual, unique drops of 'spirit' sharing the same ocean of consciousness.


ps when I say 'spirit', I also mean 'soul' -- that unique spiritual 'container' that is you. :)
I couldn't have put it better Pris , there is no death . I've said this before , their power is the threat of death , when you realize there is no death just a transition , they have lost their power .

[modwiz]

Someone took a few pics of me the other night while playing my bass. Here are two of them.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/modwiz/Hrad1_zpsc0c52b61.jpeg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/modwiz/media/Hrad1_zpsc0c52b61.jpeg.html)

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/modwiz/Rad2_zps6c1c828f.jpeg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/modwiz/media/Rad2_zps6c1c828f.jpeg.html)

[Pris]

Someone took a few pics of me the other night while playing my bass. Here are two of them.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/modwiz/Hrad1_zpsc0c52b61.jpeg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/modwiz/media/Hrad1_zpsc0c52b61.jpeg.html)

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/modwiz/Rad2_zps6c1c828f.jpeg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/modwiz/media/Rad2_zps6c1c828f.jpeg.html)

Wow, such a 'painterly' quality to these images... combination of the walls, lighting... and your hands... really quite lovely.

[modwiz]

As of 7AM Jan. 4, the Tent has 110,000 views.:blsh:
10,000 since Dec.18. As quiet as the tent is at TOT itself, something is catching attention "out there".

[PurpleLama]

Those are some great images of you, mod.

Btw, you mean Jan 4.

[modwiz]

Those are some great images of you, mod.

Btw, you mean Jan 4.

Thanks, and thanks. Will fix that now.

[modwiz]

I think it is time for some short discussion of John Lash and the KWP. I say short because the topic will receive more in depth coverage during one of my video talks. Some preliminary topics for those videos may start in the tent. Still working the ideas out in my head regarding format and topics for those videos.

I have enormous respect for John Lash and the body of work he has put out in a little over a decade. Metahistory.org is a treasure trove of his efforts and scholarship. It was at metahistory.org that I first came upon JL's work. I had followed a link from the Nexus forum. It linked to to papers by John. One went into detail naming and describing the human inter-species predator. The exposing. The other paper was titled, "Open Season on Inter-Species Predators". Quite an introduction to John.

Our old friend Jorr urged me to join the GNE. Gaian Navigation Experiment. This was a three year period of podcast by JL. There also a short lived forum that he himself wanted to see close. He did not run it. It was a feral place. Many there had heard the "call" of the KWP. Many seemed eager for 'dirty work'. Too eager.

Ruthless has its roots in wrothless or without anger. When one is too eager they are not wrothless. The forum closed and personal pursuit of Gaian navigation was done in the privacy of my headphones. John is interesting and often outrageous.

The Sophianic Narrative has done profound things for me and I have thanked JL personally for it in an email. Which brings me to those couple of emails.

Here is my opening email to him.


Hello John,

I wanted to make sure this is the correct email addy to correspond with you. I have been, or am, a member of the GNE and was a member of the dysfunctional forum. I know you were glad to see it go. I made about two posts. Anyway, if this is where correspondence can occur then a real email from me will follow. I intend to do a you tube commentary type thing very soon in the New Year and topics dear to my heart will be at the heart of my material. The Sophianic narrative is one of the closest topics to my heart and it is impossible to discuss this story without you coming into the picture. I want to have an acquaintance with you, however rudimentary, before opening my mouth on the net. I have a thread in a forum (TheOneTruth, that has good viewership by non-members and good support from the forum. So putting up videos will have an immediate small audience. Look forward to corresponding with the man who gave me the information I needed to find Gaian Consciousness and the Deity beneath my feet.

I have counsel regarding the KWP.

Warm regards,
Radagast



I will not post his replies for reasons of his privacy and my decency. I will paraphrase. He directed me to metahistory.org, said he would welcome anyone telling the story, accurately, and if I had any questions to let him know. There was one other exchange of a few words between us and I ended by asking him a question about Thelete and his association with Jupiter. John had mentioned a Thelete/Jupiter connection in his two hours of talking with Lisa Harrison and trying to find that piece in those two hours could get trying. So, I asked JK directly. I have never received a response. With zero sarcasm in my words, I know he is a busy man. His LH interview has shot him through the roof. Accolades for hour one and the Sophianic Narrative. Lots of controversy with the second hour owing to more than just the KWP.

My offer of counsel to JL probably seemed like some loon with a 'plan'. LOL. Life is about choices. It does seem like it is late in the planning of the KWP for any counsel to be heeded. Especially from an unknown. Perhaps the heart of a pedophile......:fpalm:

John applies a different Gaian model for the Anthropos than I do. Part of that may do with our diet choices. He chooses 'wild' Nature for his model. I choose the Antropos' own body and inner ecosystem for my guiding model. Instead of predators, there are parasites and pathogens. There is no war only immune response and hygiene of the organism. Remedy of infection has more than one way of achieving results. Riddance, not vengeance is at the core of remedial actions. Even riddance is just the means to restore homeo-stasis in the organism. That is the short of our parting ways with regards to predator/pathogen. There is more to flesh out if this topic goes to video. Seems likely to.

[modwiz]

Ron is too much. Here he is calling out the pope on his vlog last night.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5qWeXMDhvs

[ronin]

more images of the 12000 year body that is alseep and new videos.

http://via-midgard.info/news/video/v-irane-najdena-grobnica-velikogo-slavyanskogo.htm

https://vk.com/wall10894398_662


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEhGUuto_p0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgZ0dZ7IDDU

[Catsquotl]

Ruthless has its roots in wrothless or without anger. When one is too eager they are not wrothless.

Wrothless??
Even the dictionary can't find it You didn't mean worthless did you?

With Love
Eelco
Liking the immune response idea.

[modwiz]

Wrothless??
Even the dictionary can't find it You didn't mean worthless did you?

With Love
Eelco
Liking the immune response idea.

I could have written it Wrathless. I am composing my own word here, methinks. The whole idea is is wrapped up in certain concepts of mine regarding wisdom/compassion. Apologies on using a word not in the dictionary. Much of my reading genre might use a phrase like "he was wroth with his adversary".

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wroth

[ronin]

question.....

why would the Ambassador want to into talks with the vatican as Ron says they have been responsible for so many war,s,deaths of millions and other atrocities.
repentance for anyone would be a good start but to aknowlege this foundation to agree to a new way of being and let them still have their authority.....

there is a list which i think is called no-fly zone that has named all the people who have committed crimes against humanity.
surley there would not be discussion but arrest.
this would apply to the vatican as well to disempower it,s teachings,retrieve all the money that it has falsely acquired to be disrepute evenly and fairly back to the people.

Ron is right everything is inverted as the demiurge wants it to be that way.
it will make it very difficult for anyone to find god(source) by whatever means.

the balance needs adjusting.

[norman]

ronin, the trouble IS,

If you murder 1 person, you get put in a high security Jail.

If you murder 10 people, you get put in a sanatorium and are allowed to walk around the gardens.

If you murder 100,000 people, you get invited to a peace conference.

I'm afraid the planetary issues involved mean that things even go beyond an invitation to a peace conference.

[ronin]

many years ago there was a town.
the people just wanted a normal peaceful life.
but there where to many bullies who persecuted the town folk.
this went on for a long time and eventually the town folk decided to take down the bullies.

they did and the townsfolk led a happy life.

[ronin]

ronin, the trouble IS,

If you murder 1 person, you get put in a high security Jail.

If you murder 10 people, you get put in a sanatorium and are allowed to walk around the gardens.

If you murder 100,000 people, you get invited to a peace conference.

I'm afraid the planetary issues involved mean that things even go beyond an invitation to a peace conference.

and if you murder a whole planet?
are you then a Harvester?

[1inMany]

many years ago there was a town.
the people just wanted a normal peaceful life.
but there where to many bullies who persecuted the town folk.
this went on for a long time and eventually the town folk decided to take down the bullies.

they did and the townsfolk led a happy life.

I see your point, ronin. But...I would hesitate to support a move that would cause so much trauma, if needlessly, for so many good people, as a major hit to the vatican might do. I would tend to support a cleaning out of the vatican. I think of all the Catholics who are good people, who I have met or known, who help others. Or who go to church to find the Source of Life and honor same. If cleaning out the corruption and origin of horrendous acts against humanity is possible through peaceful means, punishment would be less my focus. That's just me. Back to the analogy of the parasite. If the origin of the harm can be neutralized, *if* this is possible, I would support that.

[ronin]

there are no fairy steps here,well i hope not.
it should be repentance and tell all the innocent people their lies or total demolish of the church.

please don,t get me wrong ,if it is done correctly then we may see a major change within our society.
if not then they have to be taken away,for the rest of humanity is at stake.

as for the people who are not awake,then maybe it will be a hard lesson to swallow.

we cannot pussyfoot about anymore.

[1inMany]

there are no fairy steps here,well i hope not.
it should be repentance and tell all the innocent people their lies or total demolish of the church.

please don,t get me wrong ,if it is done correctly then we may see a major change within our society.
if not then they have to be taken away,for the rest of humanity is at stake.

as for the people who are not awake,then maybe it will be a hard lesson to swallow.

we cannot pussyfoot about anymore.

Fairy steps? It is my understanding that the steps of the fae are certainly not the steps of the weak. Nor are they steps to be sneezed at. Be that as it may, since when is gentility weak? What needs to be done, what must be done, can be done while keeping in mind those who are well on their path. That is not to say that some won't have a rude and quite traumatic awakening. I imagine that cannot be helped. And so be it, I guess. I am just saying that working on a smoother transition first would be my preference. Even neutralizing the threat will be traumatic for some, as they have no idea there is a threat in the first place. I understand this.

edit: I have to laugh at myself here, for really my opinion is of no consequence. I must have been bitten by Eelco's talkative-today bug. :)

[NANUXII]

Ron is too much. Here he is calling out the pope on his vlog last night.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5qWeXMDhvs


The Rhosgobel has been calling me for a few weeks now .. i have caught my self hearing the word repeat in my mind. It was daunting to catch up on its flow but i went to the end and found my message. What i saw in this video is just a man and his heart speak and just that is all another needs to hear.

My dear friend and have been for quite a while , even tho we have separation i have always sensed you, and the sensation has always been true.

What i found saddening is me hearing you feel that there may be no God and that hurt me because i have seen him .. yes i have .. well not him exactly but a disciple , the high priest of Melchizedek and father Hermes ... i have heard them say nothing to me but to show their presence. This was evidence to me , but what of those who have not seen this ? that start to doubt ? I too was raised a Catholic and Baptised etc .. by the time i was 14 i knew in my heart i had to renounce those vows and for the next 20 years was fraught with evil tasking me to return ..., i heard the evil laughter as he sat on my chest to frighten me, he fought with my spirit the days i read the celestine prophecy.. he tried to take me then , but i won , i know i did... it was that journey by which i speak today , only to be a brother to you and all i can say is Keep the Faith alive in you before Lucifer fan that flame to be naught, then he wins .. but you dont want that : 0)

I know , i know you because you speak your heart and that is universal.

I little while ago i meditated and asked to see the representative of evil on this planet .. and you know what i saw .. a head , the head of evil .. that was the first time he showed himself to me but i summoned him to show him self ... then what i heard put a chill down my spine.. the laughter ... the same laughter i heard when i was being attacked ... it was him all along. Explanation : Him all along i mean who was attacking me , not the materialisations of Melchizedek or Hermes. just wanted to clarify .. The laughter i heard was the same when he was trying to take me back was the same as when i stood before him,

May i state to you now that God only wants the fittest to survive , the rest can keep returning till they get it.. keep bathing them selves in riches and distractions of the soul. its just a test

what i want to say is this .. regardless of what any one thinks when they wonder Is there a God or isnt there ... one thing i have found very powerful a realisation is to respond to the Model of God as an ideal gives me unlimited power and faith to the point where fear is but a spineless fart from a goat.

Regardless of what is there at the end, to live in fear of no God will make man act as though ... To live to the ideal of God in faith makes man powerful and faithful, not altruistic but Righteous !

regardless what form we choose the end is still the same regardless of what we believe.. but at least we lived to an ideal that is good and right and regardless , you win.

its only at the end we know, its only some who have seen, that sought that remind with love in their heart.

Thank you Modwiz for being you. I hope i can put some ether on your candle inside.

Hugs

Naniu

PS , your video inspired me to write this. And the double post happened because just as i went to post it , my computer started doing all sorts of weird stuff and was trying to delete the page ... i managed saved it again just in case but mods you can delete the double post below , thank you.

[NANUXII]

Ron is too much. Here he is calling out the pope on his vlog last night.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5qWeXMDhvs


The Rhosgobel has been calling me for a few weeks now .. i have caught my self hearing the word repeat in my mind. It was daunting to catch up on its flow but i went to the end and found my message. What i saw in this video is just a man and his heart speak and just that is all another needs to hear.

My dear friend and have been for quite a while , even tho we have separation i have always sensed you, and the sensation has always been true.

What i found saddening is me hearing you feel that there may be no God and that hurt me because i have seen him .. yes i have .. well not him exactly but a disciple , the high priest of Melchizedek and father Hermes ... i have heard them say nothing to me but to show their presence. This was evidence to me , but what of those who have not seen this ? that start to doubt ? I too was raised a Catholic and Baptised etc .. by the time i was 14 i knew in my heart i had to renounce those vows and for the next 20 years was fraught with evil tasking me to return ..., i heard the evil laughter as he sat on my chest to frighten me, he fought with my spirit the days i read the celestine prophecy.. he tried to take me then , but i won , i know i did... it was that journey by which i speak today , only to be a brother to you and all i can say is Keep the Faith alive in you before Lucifer fan that flame to be naught, then he wins .. but you dont want that : 0)

I know , i know you because you speak your heart and that is universal.

I little while ago i meditated and asked to see the representative of evil on this planet .. and you know what i saw .. a head , the head of evil .. that was the first time he showed himself to me but i summoned him to show him self ... then what i heard put a chill down my spine.. the laughter ... the same laughter i heard when i was being attacked ... it was him all along.

May i state to you now that God only wants the fittest to survive , the rest can keep returning till they get it.. keep bathing them selves in riches and distractions of the soul. its just a test

what i want to say is this .. regardless of what any one thinks when they wonder Is there a God or isnt there ... one thing i have found very powerful a realisation is to respond to the Model of God as an ideal gives me unlimited power and faith to the point where fear is but a spineless fart from a goat.

Regardless of what is there at the end, to live in fear of no God will make man act as though ... To live to the ideal of God in faith makes man powerful and faithful, not altruistic but Righteous !

regardless what form we choose the end is still the same regardless of what we believe.. but at least we lived to an ideal that is good and right and regardless , you win.

its only at the end we know, its only some who have seen, that sought that remind with love in their heart.

Thank you Modwiz for being you. I hope i can put some ether on your candle inside.

Hugs

Naniu

[Catsquotl]

WOW

With Love
Eelco

[1inMany]

Eelco, have you found a cure for the Talkative-today bug? Or maybe just a little sprinkle of magic dust from the bucket to make sure I don't get hit with the follow up Run-and-hide virus would be good.

Hmmm...maybe castor oil...

[Catsquotl]

Almost... But being at work makes me talk less here... Although..
Feeling one more post coming up.

With Love
Eelco

edit: Done.......

[modwiz]

I did post the Max Igan full podcast last night. Omnisense (of PA) got permission to post the whole vid on his YT site. Here it is for those (like me) who enjoy the graphics Max uses in the production of his talks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5GL0tLt2BA

[Melidae]

Yes, things are getting serious. The cabal is making it so. I am glad you picked up on those things. Those little phrases are what I listen for. It is purposely done, subtle but right in your face. He has dropped a phrase or two in his other talks and one or two 3-5 words phrases that can slip right by. The Dragon family can probably tell us more about disclosure, within an historical context, than any gubmint agency. In fact, they can probably trace their family line to one or the other ET race.

Ambassador had mentioned a Q and A with Ron, like he has done with Dave, which would be helpful with certain statements made. I know this will all become clearer as this story unfolds.

I never gave a thought that he might be speaking on many levels, and we hear only what we are able to hear from what he says. It makes sense because turning things around must be done on many different levels.

It will take time, whether the cabal is making it more difficult or not. It took a long time to get to this point, and it will take time to free ourselves.

A question I have held since watching the first video of the Ambassador is why now...other than the fact the Red Dragons have recently taken over? Are all the Dragon Families themselves being held accountable for allowing this to happen or go as far as it has gone...and this is the best they can do now. Is there a time frame...and if so, why?

Many questions. Working on patience.

[modwiz]

I never gave a thought that he might be speaking on many levels, and we hear only what we are able to hear from what he says. It makes sense because turning things around must be done on many different levels.

It will take time, whether the cabal is making it more difficult or not. It took a long time to get to this point, and it will take time to free ourselves.

A question I have held since watching the first video of the Ambassador is why now...other than the fact the Red Dragons have recently taken over? Are all the Dragon Families themselves being held accountable for allowing this to happen or go as far as it has gone...and this is the best they can do now. Is there a time frame...and if so, why?

Many questions. Working on patience.

Speaking at multiple levels is part of higher communication skills. In any crowd there are three basic mind types. Average, which is the majority, and the two smaller 'camps' above and below the mean intellect. Each mind group 'hears' things differently. A skilled communicator will have at least the average and above accounted for. One of the reasons I enjoy the Ambassador is the 'little extras' he inserts into his language. They are short, subtle and in the middle of other, larger discussions. This leads me to trust him. His message has no deceit. Its content is spoken in a fashion that reaches its intended audience.

My own answer as to why now is, it is time. 12/21/12 was a marker. Earth/Gaia had a direct line to the galactic core again. It is my perception that this began a 'quickening' process, or awakening if one prefers. Old families of the East employ astrology and other omens to guide them.

As for accountability. That is a deep consideration. The abuse of the justice system by the elite has programmed into the people a vengeance and punishment mode that the elite themselves do not follow in the same manner. So, one way of framing the question of accountability might be to ask ourselves if we want them to endure the practices we have had to or, is it wiser to move forward and all live under the more forgiving ways the elite practice themselves. Asking the cabal, a group of the elite now in poor standing, to remit and surrender is seen as quite severe consequences for people who consider themselves masters of the universe.

I know the above sounds like slap on the wrist stuff. Abuse has shaped perspective and emotional sub-sets. Speaking only for myself, moving up to a more forgiving system instead emotionally holding on to "the people's" justice (punishment) system, works for me. I have no emotions that needs cleansing via retribution. I do not believe in punishment in any form. Re-education is what punishment covers itself in, so let us focus on rehabilitation where possible and removal/containment where warranted.

This whole subject is so tied up in our emotional and physical abuse. As we see in life, some hold traumas for a long time. To their own detriment. Our own bodies show us that healing is not only possible, it is natural. Identification as a victim is a very powerful shaper of reality and antithetical to healing. One cannot be both a victim and healed. One will not heal as a victim. This is not a chicken and egg situation. One must relinquish victimhood to be whole and heal.

This victim identity can hamper reconciliation efforts between the elite and the common human. I do believe this dynamic has been taken into account by the RDF. Truth and reconciliation has been mentioned. It worked in Rwanda.

Re-education could be interesting too, if it happened. Elites and popcorn eaters together flinging feces at each other at school initially. When the dust settles, healing can begin.

[modwiz]

Get ready to enter the...Twilight Zone.

Simon Parkes, (I hope this name is known) has a new film that is supposed to come out soon called, "Don't Mention the Reptilians". Any who know Simon's story are familiar with Simon being human/reptilian/mantis. Simon's work has had enormous impact on sketching some ideas together regarding our history on this planet and a Story that might include Gaia/Sophia hidden beneath some layers.

No matter what source we use referring to ET's, ED's and others, it is mentioned time and again the Earth is a special place. All kinds of reasons are posited. Even commercial.
I believe the biggest secret, one hidden in all religions, is the Sophianic Narrative. That Narrative points me to the reason for the cover-up and why Earth is so special. It is the only planet in this galaxy that has the creative germ force of an Aeon ensouled as a planet. An intelligently guided ecosystem created specifically for a featured life form. Two interesting epochs of note. Prior to the age of Dinosaurs, when reptiles were huge, was the age of Insects, when insects were huge and dominated the planet. After the dinosaurs began the rise of mammals. The end of the dinosaur age was brought about by a comet, it is said. Did Gaia call such an event to herself? Not out of the question, IMO.

Simon Parkes, Mantids, Reptilians. Mantoids seem to occupy a more thoughtful position than Reptilians. One must consider the organization of a beehive to grok how organized the insect life forms are. Reptiles show no such organizational skills in their animal forms.

I will endeavor to find a recording of John Lash were he recounts some of his shamanic experiences with Gaia. At the time, it was just another thing John was putting out there. He speaks of Gaia being kept prisoner my what he called "Mantis" in a frequency field. Hmm, not only suppressing knowledge of the goddess but, the goddess Herself. I find this fairly mind-blowing. These dots just connected very recently.

There is a lot more here. Thought to drop this here for starters and something to pursue in more depth when things "go live".

[modwiz]

Ron here speaking about anger. Did a decent job of it, given how much of it he is working through. His nightly vlogs are his commitment to an awakening.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtVlJ0t1s9Q

[modwiz]

I found a snippet of info(?) made by a poster at Ron's site. Some things that came out in a recent interview of Neil by 'Drake', from the posters' telling. Here it is.


Keenan reveals some interest aspects of the Dragon "wealth":
+ The Dragon Family haven't had anything back for 85 years (i.e. since 1930?)
+ The 4% interest is payable in dollars, not gold. "There's a lot of money in those accounts now"
+ The Dragon's have been offered 10% of their request, to give up their Gold bonds. They refused.
When asked about what he did with the Gold he recovered in his video, Keenan answered:
"It's none of their business what I do. It's mine. It was a gift."

As I read this, the last part about refusing an offer of 10% of debt to cancel debt with a Family or Families. I read this with interest (no pun intended) because of the now and again mention of a Jubilee by the Ambassador. The families could agree to cancel cabal debt in exchange for a Jubilee for those caught up in cabal financial slavery.

Just a thought.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Modwiz!

What you say about the extinction of the dinosaurs is very telling. During the extinction events that occurred during the time of the dinosaurs, we find that animals from certain habitats were more likely to survive than others, but at the same time note that habitat alone wasn't an indication of survival. There were large non-dinosaurian reptiles alive at the time, too, like the sea-borne mosasaurs or the flying pterosaurs. While sea life fared better in the extinction event 65mya, all the note-worthy marine reptiles died out. Likewise, all pterosaurs died out, big and small, yet the early birds (the only surviving dinosaurs) survived. And, of course, as you say, representative lineages of insects survived all of these events.

The idea of mammal and reptile are taxonomically inaccurate. "Reptile" is defined as anything which is an amniote (has or lays eggs) which is not a bird or mammal (i.e., it's paraphyletic), while "mammal" is too narrow a definition still rooted in primitive definitions of warm-bloodedness and live birth (both cold-bloodedness and egg-laying are found in some modern mammals). The best distinction is to divide animals up into three groups: the synapsids, the diapsids and the anapsids. The anapsids are the turtles, the diapsids other reptiles and birds and the synapsids are modern mammals and their primitive relatives.

Doing this reveals some interesting things about what survived. Pelycosaurs (primitive synapsids) existed before dinosaurs and yet were not developing the adaptations required for intelligence (such as high-energy systems). At the same time, their bodyplan was in a dead-end and they weren't developing. Dinosaurs developed these systems, and intelligence. They were also ancestrally bipedal, but most forms fell back onto four legs (and all of these died out). When dinosaurs and early mammals died out, the survivors were mostly high-energy, intelligent and small.

During an extinction event, high energy requirements are a disadvantage, not an advantage, because those energy demands have to be met and food sources are continually disappearing. It does no good to shiver to generate warmth if you starve to death. Low energy systems could burrow for warmth and use their frugal lifestyle and minimals needs to wait it out. Yet that's not what happened. The warm-blooded survived while the cold blooded were decimated (though obviously not completely wiped out).

At the same time, smaller animals survived while larger ones died out. Large animals are better able to resist the cold, whether they're high or low energy, but this proved not to help. If evolution were guided by some force ("divine" or extraterrestrial), it actually makes sense. Small animals usually have a smaller range, which means a group of rat-sized mammals on one side of a valley might never come into contact with their own kind on the other side. This helps speciation and radiation; that is, when smaller animals survive an extinction event, the survivors evolve into a greater number of new species than large animals would, because geography more easily separates and isolates groups which allows for the development of subspecies which, over time, become full species.

Furthermore, the extinction at the end of the cretaceous was not the first. Dinosaurs developed amongst other animals and only later gained supremacy. It was during the era of the dinosaurs that plants really took hold and spread. The great number and variety of plants allowed a greater number and variety of herbivores, which in turn promoted a greater number of carnivores. These numbers were an aid to evolution for the same reason: speciation happens better with greater numbers. Not only that, but the greater food supply allowed the development of warm-blooded herbivores and carnivores (food-scarce environments favour cold-blooded animals, which require less food). This warm-bloodedness further allowed the development of intelligence.

All of this goes to contribute to the idea that for millions of years, life has been guided towards a situation of increased intelligence. If you want an example, compare the modern dolphins and birds with ancient ichthyosaurs and pterosaurs. They occupy the same niches and bodyplans (particularly with dolphins and ichthyosaurs) and yet the modern forms are both intelligent where the ancient forms have notoriously small braincases.

If I were responsible for guiding a planetary ecosystem in a direction that would support complex souls, I would aim for animals like humans and dolphins that had the intelligence to work with such souls.

[KosmicKat]

The abuse of the justice system by the elite has programmed into the people a vengeance and punishment mode that the elite themselves do not follow in the same manner. So, one way of framing the question of accountability might be to ask ourselves if we want them to endure the practices we have had to or, is it wiser to move forward and all live under the more forgiving ways the elite practice themselves. Asking the cabal, a group of the elite now in poor standing, to remit and surrender is seen as quite severe consequences for people who consider themselves masters of the universe.
...
This whole subject is so tied up in our emotional and physical abuse. As we see in life, some hold traumas for a long time. To their own detriment. Our own bodies show us that healing is not only possible, it is natural. Identification as a victim is a very powerful shaper of reality and antithetical to healing. One cannot be both a victim and healed. One will not heal as a victim. This is not a chicken and egg situation. One must relinquish victimhood to be whole and heal.

Perhaps it is because I am an oddball that I cannot recall ever being comfortable with the idea of "hurting someone because they have hurt me." As an adult, it looks to me like the raw Child impulse to lash out. Not that I claim to be able to control that urge effectively yet. There are times when I am grateful that I do not have godlike powers, because the human race would be less than a memory several times over!


What i found saddening is me hearing you feel that there may be no God and that hurt me because i have seen him .. yes i have .. well not him exactly but a disciple , the high priest of Melchizedek and father Hermes

Let not your heart be troubled. Our wizard friend continues to follow a path that is right for him. We may find ourselves on a stretch of the path where we can no longer support belief in an all-powerful creator-father-mother. What is important is that we don't stop at that point, pitch camp, and start preaching to all travellers that our journey is over and we have found the final truth. One of the great beauties of the Tent is that it is a convenient resting-place and clearing house for ideas that all of us find along the road before resuming our journeys. And to complete the thought I began earlier, there is the possibility that any traveller may find themselves discovering that there is indeed an all-powerful creator-father-mother; that they are standing upon the creator, breathing the creator, gazing up at the stars in the face of the creator, reaching out from within to touch the creator and be touched.

[modwiz]

Let not your heart be troubled. Our wizard friend continues to follow a path that is right for him. We may find ourselves on a stretch of the path where we can no longer support belief in an all-powerful creator-father-mother. What is important is that we don't stop at that point, pitch camp, and start preaching to all travellers that our journey is over and we have found the final truth. One of the great beauties of the Tent is that it is a convenient resting-place and clearing house for ideas that all of us find along the road before resuming our journeys. And to complete the thought I began earlier, there is the possibility that any traveler may find themselves discovering that there is indeed an all-powerful creator-father-mother; that they are standing upon the creator, breathing the creator, gazing up at the stars in the face of the creator, reaching out from within to touch the creator and be touched.

Nanu was addressing Ron regarding agnostism. Thank you for the kind words.

[ronin]

the problem with people today in society that they are told to seek something outside of themselves to hold on their souls.
the system wants to make a person a victim and for them to rely it.people have become use to this and forgot or do not know they have any sovereignty.
mind control of the masses to make them reliant on a system that has been programmed onto us.
this would lead to the question of...if a person knows no other way in life,they have become victims of circumstance,reliant in every way as they know how.

how can they decide to break free?
what can they do to help the change?
i feel they will have to see something positive and true before they decide to make a difference to their life's.

[Melidae]

As for accountability.

I must remind myself not to post when short on time...it results in less clarity.

In regards to accountability, my thought process goes something like this...who/what are the Dragon Families? Where did they come from? If the Dragon Families are of 'royal' blood, and caretakers of humanity on this planet, did someone/something appoint them to this position or did they take it on themselves? If they took it upon themselves, our current status and circumstances make some kind of sense, depending on their purpose and idea of duty...ie remaining as 'watchers' in a non-interference policy, perhaps.

If they were 'appointed' as caretakers, who appointed them and why? Are the current signs and omens suggestive of a return of those that appointed them? perhaps for accountability as to the job they have done? Somewhere in the deep recesses of my memory there resides the idea that this is so and was a topic of conversation within the last 4 -5 years. There was also something to do with 'black boxes' or 'black briefcases' that were sent from China to the leaders of certain countries to be opened at the exact same time.

My point had been intended to question the possibility that the turn-around in the 'administration' of the Dragon Families might have more to do with the return of those who appointed them (thus making them of 'royal blood') and require accountability of their actions/inaction in the task that was given them than a simple change of heart. I could very well be wrong in my speculations.

I have no animosity toward the Dragon Families. I consider their prior actions as error, and they are taking steps to correct such error. The gift they bring to us is the realization of our responsibility in allowing psychopaths to run the world...we are also in error and need to take steps to correct it.

[Melidae]

Regarding a belief in 'God'/'god'...The Ambassador said, "Worship the Creator. Don't make him a 'God'/'god'."...a distinction few of us make.

Then, again, the Ambassador mentions Jesus referring to representing the 'one, true God' as separate from the 'god' of the Old Testament.

Looking forward to expansion of those statements.

[modwiz]

If they were 'appointed' as caretakers, who appointed them and why? Are the current signs and omens suggestive of a return of those that appointed them? perhaps for accountability as to the job they have done? Somewhere in the deep recesses of my memory there resides the idea that this is so and was a topic of conversation within the last 4 -5 years. There was also something to do with 'black boxes' or 'black briefcases' that were sent from China to the leaders of certain countries to be opened at the exact same time.


Who appointed them is of more interest to me than their gold. Specualtion would not serve any of us. I do believe the RDF will be a major part of 'Disclosure', especially if their authority derives from where I think it might. In that case, disclosure would be necessary for them to validate what they believe is their claim to steward the Earth.

If we accept the Sumerian narrative regarding Annunaki tampering with hominid DNA, we see two distinct creations. First were the workers with purposely limited intelligence. Then a human for the Annunaki to pass kingship onto was created with an intelligence far surpassing that of the workers. Priests and scribes would also have some of this blood in them as a necessity to function properly. Fortunately, like the Watchers of more ancient times, the royals had trysts with the peasants they found pleasing, (the Anthropos is a very horny species) and the higher functioning genes made their way into the sub-class. These genes found each other in this genetic diaspora and have combined to produce a most robust human both physically and mentally in a good many cases, at this point in history. There are whole populations of isolated, and not so isolated, people who have had scant exposure to these genes. Any kind of long range planning and abstract concepts are often beyond the ken of such genetics. This would would produce a class of overseers. It is apparent that in the age of patrimony, these overseers have shown poor performance, IMO.

Is a New Age of compassionate cooperation upon us? My own feelings and thoughts on this are of little utility here. This will all be unfolding now. Rather rapidly too, I believe.

[modwiz]

Regarding a belief in 'God'/'god'...The Ambassador said, "Worship the Creator. Don't make him a 'God'/'god'."...a distinction few of us make.

Then, again, the Ambassador mentions Jesus referring to representing the 'one, true God' as separate from the 'god' of the Old Testament.

Looking forward to expansion of those statements.

All of the 'Him' stuff is a little much for me. However, ones cosmology is a private affair, so these things are viewed as part of his psychology for me and separate from his more Earth related topics. I do recognize that connections between the two could produce some 'artifacts'. LOL.

The Ambassador is one of many who make a distinction as to the deity Jesus worked with. Usually positing that Jesus did not represent Yaldaboath/Yahweh/Demi-Urge but, something more akin to a Pleroma type.(?) Although clearly masculine in the representations.

For me, the DF story has always been about the revelations that could come out of this and not the money part of it. I am not in any difficulty so if any easier economic paths evolve, it will be a pleasant change of shared reality. Icing for my self baked cake.

It is friends and others with their economic situations that gives me any ear for some financial easements that might come out of this. Just a world wide Jubilee would give all a fresh start. With such a clean slate, poor money managers, from the personal to commercial, can also be identified.

[Calz]

Hmmm.

Take some days off to be with the family over the (supposed) holiday season and look what happens ...

oy


After a quick skim through I would have been much better off parking myself in the tent ...

hindsight ... living in the past ... got it.


Appears to have been some really good stuff shared here and I will catch up with the posts and vids soon as possible.


In the meanwhile ... if you wish ... share my mood ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC7Nc58cBn4


http://www.birdmadgirl.com/lyrics/thesamedeepwaterasyou/sdway.gif

[Melidae]

Our interests and priorities appear to be in alignment on these matters. I am in agreement with your last two posts.

Though many may be focused on the 'oooh, shiny', my interest lies in historical truth and revelation...whatever that may be...and in creating positive change.

[ronin]

i feel the monetary aspect of it all is secondary but maybe necessary for freedom.

now what a great gift to give humankind would be of knowing our true past history,and aligning with our true source.
given a choice to live in bliss,create and enjoy your life,helping others and learning on the way as we go.

or live in mountains of gold that cannot feed our souls.

[Pris]

(the Anthropos is a very horny species)

http://www.creaturepleasurez.com/creatures/7036ea09c172fb8ff7e8329880c0e596e3915372.jpg

[sandy]

I have enjoyed today's posts immensely, already the shift is upon us here in the Tent. :winner:

[modwiz]

I have enjoyed today's posts immensely, already the shift is upon us here in the Tent. :winner:

I have enjoyed them too. I also enjoyed a 103 minute chat with Justoneman (Sam) we had a little while ago. We have chatted in the past but we lost contact when my skype addy changed. I saw him swimming alone over at PA so thought to seek him out. We had a good time. I love good skyping . I am able to emerge from how people imagine me. My persona translates poorly to paper. Most personas do, IMO.

[Stoat muldoon]

I have enjoyed them too. I also enjoyed a 103 minute chat with Justoneman (Sam) we had a little while ago. We have chatted in the past but we lost contact when my skype addy changed. I saw him swimming alone over at PA so thought to seek him out. We had a good time. I love good skyping . I am able to emerge from how people imagine me. My persona translates poorly to paper. Most personas do, IMO.May be it's your wizardy look Modwiz :whstl:

[Calabash]

May be it's your wizardy look Modwiz :whstl:

. . . a little Biblical as well in a kind of Michelangelo way . . . (the hands on the guitar)
http://kristenwishon.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/hands-440.jpeg

[modwiz]

As I see the the various UFO threads on forums it still seems to me that we might actually get more, non-false flag, disclosure from the Red Dragon family than any other source and how out of the blue that will be for UFOlogists if things happen that way. It is a thought that stays close to me. Might make an interesting video topic to explore what the ramifications might be. Maybe even do a Ron Van Dyke and address some personages directly. With some courtly manners, of course. Presenting with dignity dignifies the presenter.:)

I am expecting more 'intel' from the Ambassador. He has been moving the line with little phrases regarding the nature of the RDF and the role they have to play. This is Mandate From Heaven stuff. It does not take deep insight to see where this would have to lead. Disclosure and any claimed Mandate would have to emerge together. Mandates from Heaven will not work without the "gods" in the story.

UFOlogists, get ready to point your cameras in a new direction.;)

[modwiz]

A little from me regarding my Sophian awakening. The 'connection' is relatively recent but the results have been profound. Relation to Deity has completely changed in almost every way. A good example might be prayer style, where the shift began and prayer ended, LOL.

Sophia began to enter prayer/awareness/energy alignment as an addition to the archontic network that still had some scaffolding in my mental/emotional constructs. There was a sense of not wanting to "offend" in the program. The having another god before me was not sitting well with the program. It was not strong but, the remaining pieces of an old construct were revealing themselves in this new brew of cosmology.

To get to now. All that energetic reaching, both inward and outward, to maintain a conscious connection with Source suddenly all fit into a coherent connection. Source was "out there' in the galactic center, the Pleroma. All intelligence flows out from this center and usually stays there and witnesses its created "spores" grow into life forms, and civilizations if for befitting life-forms. In many ways, my roots were reaching towards the sky. Everything was upside down. Finally it broke through my consciousness that "God" was Sophia. That was where my heart should turn. And when I did, my spore finally found ground to grow roots into and be nourished. The knowledge of Earth can then flow inward. Our divinity has never been more grounded in reality than being physically with the god that dreamed/dreams us. To be an active part in the act of creation through co-creation and 'knowing' (gnosis) what ones place is this shared dream. The story of Earth is for us to write ourselves.

There is so much more to this. Not in written form though.

[modwiz]

Onward into Correction. What does that look like? Quick thought. Old news is exposing. Elite, pedos, criminals etc. We know all this, anything else is outrage du jour. OK we are getting onboard with this. What next?

One meme developing is 'no more expose, oppose.' There is a rhyme and reason, even some balance to that meme. Then, it struck me. Instead of oppose, propose. Or, proposition instead of opposition.

I'll leave it there.

[modwiz]

A mind/consciousness expanding aspect of Gnostic cosmology is the Pleroma. The galactic core where the gods 'live'. I resonate strongly with this. Now to modern astronomy for a moment. How many billions of galaxies exist? Many have similar looking cores/Pleromas. When one takes this into account, one sees a vast network, possibly organism, of a proportion where the billions of Pleromas are but nodal points of a larger system. Not particuly useful 'aha' stuff but helps to connect even larger dots. One can see how important each individual consciousness, great and small, plays in the construct of this Universe.

[Catsquotl]

A mind/consciousness expanding aspect of Gnostic cosmology is the Pleroma. The galactic core where the gods 'live'. I resonate strongly with this. Now to modern astronomy for a moment. How many billions of galaxies exist? Many have similar looking cores/Pleromas. When one takes this into account, one sees a vast network, possibly organism, of a proportion where the billions of Pleromas are but nodal points of a larger system. Not particuly useful 'aha' stuff but helps to connect even larger dots. One can see how important each individual consciousness, great and small, plays in the construct of this Universe.

You know I was actually thinking about that the other day.
And as it goes in large organisms. the organsim isn't neccisarily aware of what goes on on a cellular level in his little toe.

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