Rhosgobel Tent At TOT [Archive] - Page 10

Seikou-Kishi

29th April 2014, 23:41

SK, I would be very curious as to what vowels and in what order.

Here is a chart depicting the vowels organised by two main principles: backness and openness. The terms are pretty self-explanatory: open vowels are produced with the mouth open and close vowels with a smaller gap between the tongue and palate. Back vowels are pronounced closer to the throat and front vowels closer to the lips.

So, here's the chart. Each dot represents the sound used for each chakra and their placement gives their relationship to other sounds:

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1992/t3lj.png

The first/root chakra is pronounced like ago, but longer — somewhat as in nurse, but without the r in those accents which pronounce it. This page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-central_vowel) has an example. There is an example of the "nurse" form here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_central_unrounded_vowel), indicated just below and to the left of the red dot (the 3 symbol) if that's easier.

The second/sacral chakra is pronounced as in French vous. It is not pronounced much like English Us as in much, good or food, because these sounds are closer to A (much), I (good) and in the last case, it's pronounced with less rounding as ɯː, ɯu, ɯw, əɯ, or even iɯ. It can even be too far forward, as ʉ. The best way to try to pronounce this sound for an English speaker is to try to pronounce U and W together, with your lips noticeably rounded. In any case, this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_back_rounded_vowel) has an example.

The third/solar plexus chakra is pronounced with a low O sound. It is not pronounced like the long O in hope, or even like the somewhat lower O in horn, but like the O in conservative RP hot. In most accents, this sound is pronounced identically now with a shorter version of the O in horn (without the -r, if American), or even as an A in American, but it should be lower in the mouth. For those Americans who would pronounce the O as in "hot" with an A, try to keep your lips rounded and tight while saying it and you might get close. This page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_back_rounded_vowel) has an audio example.

The fourth/heart chakra is pronounced like the U in much but clearer (with a more open mouth), like the first half of the Y in the RP pronunciation of the word sky — just don't say the I sound, cutting it off as skaaaaaa. It's actually somewhat closer to the centre than I have shown it here (I wanted it to be closer to the plain a symbol for easy reference). The sound is better represented as � (not the same as the German letter ��, which is an e sound) and an example of the sound can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_central_unrounded_vowel).

The fifth/throat chakra is pronounced between the two French Es (fait, /ɛ/ and f�e, /e/) , like an Israeli Hebrew E (nehoshet). English speakers may find this one quite hard, because we don't even have the second of the two Es found in French. The closest we have is the diphthong in words like day (/ɛɪ/ or /eɪ/). If you pronounce an E sound as found in led, and then progress that sound to the sound in laid, that is the closest you might come. It is equally between the two French Es, and because of that is called either a "raised ɛ" or a "lowered e". You can find an example of the accurate and specific sound here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_front_unrounded_vowel).

The sixth/third eye chakra is pronounced as in English keen. This one, at least, is pretty simple. If you need an example, you can find it here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_front_unrounded_vowel).

The sound this person intoned for the crown chakra was silence, which may present logical or philosophical complications, but is at least in harmony with much of the tradition surrounding that chakra. We might consider that we are "intoning silence" every time we stop speaking, but from the point of view of the occult, and the Western Mystery Tradition, intoning consists of more than just making a noise but is rather the projection and vibration of energy with sound as an accompaniment. In the LBRP, for example, the words "Atah malkuth v'gvurah v'gdolah l'olam amen/l'olam va'ed" (I prefer "ani malkuth..." lol) and the "god names" are not just spoken, they're vibrated and in vibration the energy of the word is felt resounding throughout one's entire being and the world. It is eminently possible to vibrate in that way without speaking a single word because it is the spiritual faculty and not the vocal faculty that matters and, staying within the praxis of the WMT, it is not uncommon for the "sign of silence" to have a similar vibration. Indeed, the sign of silence without any form of higher work is an empty posture. From this point of view, it is not impossible to intone silence, it is only that the vibrated energy has no physical counterpart which, considering this is the crown chakra, seems rather apt.

PurpleLama

30th April 2014, 00:01

Excellent. Thank you. This is a wonderful addition to the Tent, as usual, from you.

eaglespirit

30th April 2014, 10:38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTCNwgzM2rQ

BabaRa

30th April 2014, 18:03

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTCNwgzM2rQ

Thanks eaglespirit, one of my all time favorites. My favorite verse, which is very pertinent at this time:

And the people bowed and prayed,
to the Neon God they made
And the sign flashed its warning
In the words that it was forming
And the sign said, The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls
And whispered in the sound of silence

I realize this isn't the Silence SK and others are referring to above. I well know the importance of silencing the mind to connect to one's HS and intuitive abilities.

But then, as the song above states, the other silence, the silence of not speaking one's Truth is like a cancer grows.

Perhaps this post would belong better in the Sophia Correction thread. As I believe that in order to correct we must now speak our truth, stop turning our heads to the injustices that we see (usually because we feel as if we can't do anything about them) and that has been programmed into us both by words and actions (meaning how police treated OWS participants)

eaglespirit

1st May 2014, 00:20

Hi BabaRa, Love to You and Yours...glad You posted about the song, I simply put it here because of the "title" and it is one of my favorites too. It was meant to honor what PurpleLama and All are bringing forth...the "real" Silence that can change Our Lives! This personal potent process can empower and connect the higher truth to our spiritual rhythm and we can affect and effect the turnaround of the malady You speak of.

norman

1st May 2014, 00:58

I just discovered aporee dot org. It's a google earth based idea that pins sounds to specific locations.

I've uploaded a recording I made this evening down by the Wear river. You can click and go straight to it:

http://aporee.org/maps/work/?loc=22840

( headphones are best, it's bin-aural )

EDIT:

They've deleted it. It's gone !........ only reason I can think of is that I didn't record it in 24bit resolution.

Sooz

1st May 2014, 07:28

I love your recordings of nature in the woods Norman. Thanks.

When I play them it puts my home in a certain time and space.

Very special.

How can I download that particular mp3 onto my ipod? Any clues?

1inMany

3rd May 2014, 12:48

Oh my goodness! Eelco, is it true? It looks like you thanked a post...oh, that would be the best news! Please come into the tent and share with us, I missed your words....of course, your spirit was still here :)

I step into the tent this morning to get away from the massive energies I am experiencing. I guess I can't really get away from them, and I suppose that means I track them in. There are so many things happening simultaneously that it's difficult to catch my breath. I thought that if I came in and sat in my little corner over here, I would be able to center again. Maybe I will have a new center, since I can't seem to find my other one.

Why is it, do you suppose, that nothing I can find about kundalini rising does it justice? I didn't go seeking this, and I doubt I would have, especially in the middle of the storm blowing through my soul. But, as is the case, I go for a while thinking things are happening....and I guess they are, but they end up being nothing in comparison to what comes next. Always.

I will just sit over here looking calm and peaceful, breathing. In and out. Simple process. Inhale, exhale. Well, it seems simple. While inside the storms rage.

eaglespirit

4th May 2014, 11:32

1inmany...the Best to You : )

Hey, just a thought...go get calm and peaceful and 'connected' at some Native American sites near You while Your Spirit a rising higher and higher! Love, Love, Love!

Lubbock Lake Landmark
http://www.texasalmanac.com/sites/default/files/images/topics/amerindian.jpg
For thousands of years, across hundreds of generations, people have come to Lubbock Lake. Hunter-gatherers, from Clovis to Protohistoric peoples, the Apache and Comanche nations, and the founding of a modern city are each a part of the history of this National Historic Landmark that is one of the premier archaeological and natural history sites in North America.
http://www.depts.ttu.edu/museumttu/lll/visitus.html

Chickasaw Cultural Center
http://www.cccctx.org/images/chickasaw_couple_for_letterhead_2mfl.jpg
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/b7/68/72/recreation-of-traditional.jpg
http://www.chickasawculturalcenter.com/?gclid=CNWPlL-Tkr4CFYuXOgod6SgAxg
http://www.chickasawculturalcenter.com/plan-map.html

Catsquotl

4th May 2014, 18:29

Howdy,

I don't have much in idea and words land at the moment.
So pick a jasper you like and let's just sit together for a while...

http://www.crystalite.co.uk/ekmps/shops/crystalite/images/brown_jasper_tumble_stones.jpg

WIth Love
Eelco

sandy

5th May 2014, 02:59

KosmicKat

5th May 2014, 12:05

I couldn't agree more with your post eaglespirit, the drums at a powwow or any other event with drumming virtually connect one to the heart beat of Mother Earth..................awwwwwwwwwwwww centered in her energy and Love :)

I've heard so many percussionist jokes, I'm sure every musician knows at least one. But rhythm is a core element of life. I may have recounted this anecdote before, but once while listening to a radio broadcast the interviewer asked world-famous percussionist Evelyn Glennie "What's musical about hitting something?". I nearly choked on my cup of very British tea!

And now, for anyone who hasn't heard a percussionist joke before, a helpful link (http://jandeane81.com/threads/872-The-Jokes-Thread-Re-Booted?p=22077&viewfull=1#post22077) to the jokes thread.

BabaRa

6th May 2014, 20:16

Hey, just a thought...go get calm and peaceful and 'connected' at some Native American sites near You while Your Spirit a rising higher and higher! Love, Love, Love!

Thanks eaglespirit for reminder. The sites you posted look interesting, hopefully I can visit some time.

Last year I was fortunate enough to spend time at Chaco canyon in New Mexico. I found the energy there to be amazing. There were no other visitors there at the time which made it even more special for me.

http://www.nps.gov/imr/chcu/images/55580441-1DD8-B71C-0E1F96449283F8FB.jpg

Moonlight

6th May 2014, 22:53

1inMany

7th May 2014, 00:56

Just sitting here breathing. Becoming accustomed to new energies, I guess. And the fact that I can handle them. Or that I feel like I can't quite. Powerful, indeed. Funny how I have experiences when driving my car. An understanding here and there, something appears, something makes sense, something that makes no sense. If I didn't have close friends to lean on, I would feel quite crazy. Actually, I do sometimes anyway.

Yesterday, a woman appeared. She was ginormous. As big as the earth, actually. Quite beautiful, so gentle looking. This was only disturbing because it happened, not because of what happened. The message was surprising, and I don't have a full understanding yet. I can feel the message, I can know it is profound, I can know what she meant, but my brain hasn't caught up yet. The day before yesterday, what happened disturbed me as well as the fact that it did. Hmmm. That made sense in my head.

And the earth...has a heartbeat. Hmmm.

I wonder if I will ever be able to "roll with it." I'm still working on "It's Okay." I will sit back down now.

It is every single day. Woah.

Thanks, modwiz, for letting me ramble.

Thank you eaglespirit. That sounds lovely.

1inMany

7th May 2014, 01:02

That jasper is lovely Eelco. I'm glad you're back. Ideas and words or not. :)

modwiz, how is tent living? :)

eaglespirit

7th May 2014, 01:31

Thanks eaglespirit for reminder. The sites you posted look interesting, hopefully I can visit some time.

Last year I was fortunate enough to spend time at Chaco canyon in New Mexico. I found the energy there to be amazing. There were no other visitors there at the time which made it even more special for me.

http://www.nps.gov/imr/chcu/images/55580441-1DD8-B71C-0E1F96449283F8FB.jpg

I was there with a group called Sacred Earth Networkers for 3 days in 2007, BabaRa...it was a powerful experience for me,
I'll try to track down one of my old posts elsewhere that shared an amazing connection to Spirit on the way up the pathway to the top of it all to Sunrise meditate while a surrounding thunderstorm came to a screeching halt.
We were visited by an Apache Medicine Man, life enhancing meet up!

So glad to know You got there to enjoy too : )

modwiz

7th May 2014, 03:13

That jasper is lovely Eelco. I'm glad you're back. Ideas and words or not. :)

modwiz, how is tent living? :)

Tent living is wonderful. I even have a better and more reliable internet connection. The best part is the community, especially my few real friends. It has been both grounding and cosmic. Feet on the ground and heads in the sky. It is big.

BabaRa

7th May 2014, 05:14

Tent living is wonderful. I even have a better and more reliable internet connection. The best part is the community, especially my few real friends. It has been both grounding and cosmic. Feet on the ground and heads in the sky. It is big.

Am I understanding there is a community of tent dwellers?

modwiz

7th May 2014, 06:05

Am I understanding there is a community of tent dwellers?

A combination of tents, trailers, dorm rooms and cabins for staff, a category I fall under though independent contractor is closer to the actuality. The community is the work force of the institute.

Calz

8th May 2014, 07:02

Tent living is wonderful. I even have a better and more reliable internet connection. The best part is the community, especially my few real friends. It has been both grounding and cosmic. Feet on the ground and heads in the sky. It is big.

I lieu of what *seems* to be heading our way due to financial circumstances ... you are *way* ahead of us all ...

Now what to do in the wintertime???

modwiz

9th May 2014, 03:45

I did get a new guitar that has been on my list. My first twelve string guitar. I really love it and all who have heard or played it like it. Players don't want to put it down. Here's a pic of the actual guitar. It is the showroom pic I selected it from.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag152/modwiz/fendervillager_zps8bc78141.jpg (http://s1303.photobucket.com/user/modwiz/media/fendervillager_zps8bc78141.jpg.html)

Catsquotl

9th May 2014, 03:57

modwiz

9th May 2014, 04:56

Thinking that some of you may not like tumbled stones very much..
You may take one of these if it suits better..

http://www.biggerbids.com/members/images/22526/public_thumb/2930265_880_Red-Jasper-7-.jpg

With Love
Eelco

Jasper and agate are such lovely gemstones. Rough or polished, the artistry in the colors never ceases to delight me.

1inMany

9th May 2014, 15:37

Oh, yes. **** is about to get real. So long as I can keep my strength up. Difficult to get enough fuel into this body, when I finally get enough it is time for more. Mainaining this state is a challenge. But quite worth it, I will say. Delving into what can be done. Learning to move my mind over, I'm surprised and quite proud of myself.

This is huge. I'm just saying, **** is about to get real. I am not so easily scared off as having a storm thrown my way. Not a dare, no, not in the least. Just a statement of determination. That what is intended, will be. I am filled with gratitude and yes, I feel honored.

What a beautiful guitar, modwiz. I bet the sound is very full. Makes me miss all my instruments...my old oboe...my flute...especially my piano, which the universe will deliver when the time is right. I miss my bass too, which I'm really not good at, but had so much fun on...a gift from Mike. When the marriage was over, apparently so was my bass playing. It sort of fell apart. What a mirror, there. Sigh, I still have my voice. I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it, it carries my joy out of my body and into my environment. :)

Tribe

9th May 2014, 21:04

The voice and body is the greatest instrument 1inmany :) xx

PurpleLama

9th May 2014, 22:38

I will take these jaspers over those. Not that yours aren't nice, but these are much more my colors.

https://img1.etsystatic.com/018/0/7589823/il_570xN.492877267_btfc.jpg

eaglespirit

10th May 2014, 09:58

Oh, yes. **** is about to get real. So long as I can keep my strength up. Difficult to get enough fuel into this body, when I finally get enough it is time for more. Maintaining this state is a challenge. But quite worth it, I will say. Delving into what can be done. Learning to move my mind over, I'm surprised and quite proud of myself.

This is huge. I'm just saying, **** is about to get real. I am not so easily scared off as having a storm thrown my way. Not a dare, no, not in the least. Just a statement of determination. That what is intended, will be. I am filled with gratitude and yes, I feel honored.

What a beautiful guitar, modwiz. I bet the sound is very full. Makes me miss all my instruments...my old oboe...my flute...especially my piano, which the universe will deliver when the time is right. I miss my bass too, which I'm really not good at, but had so much fun on...a gift from Mike. When the marriage was over, apparently so was my bass playing. It sort of fell apart. What a mirror, there. Sigh, I still have my voice. I don't really care what anyone else thinks about it, it carries my joy out of my body and into my environment. :)

I am filled with gratitude and yes, I feel honored.

...that is the attitude of altitude to a Cosmosis Osmosis : )

1inMany

10th May 2014, 11:44

I am filled with gratitude and yes, I feel honored.

...that is the attitude of altitude to a Cosmosis Osmosis : )

Oh, eaglespirit, I just love you to pieces!

mojo

11th May 2014, 03:49

Tent living is wonderful.

Having a new transition in my life and have thought of your tent living style. The most long term tent living was 2 months on a kayak trip, and thinking of Mick Dodge and his woodsman living on the Olympic Peninsula and dont think I could go to that extreme. Although during the warmer summer months in Oregon and the wilderness nearby it sounds intriguing and tempting and bet it would pay off with skywatching. Anyway thanks modwiz for your statement it was in good timing...

Mars Planitia

15th May 2014, 14:47

Catsquotl

15th May 2014, 15:03

Loloma my Kolas.
Yeah I Been mostly away from the internet of late.
Stopping by to say hello to the campers of the wood.
Question: Which organic toothpaste can anyone recommend here:
noat a paste per se, but if and when i do brush i use charked eggplant powder with sea salt. around here thats available as a toothpowder from the bio store. it has some japanese name, but i can't remember what thats called.

before that i used a paste called parodontax which is also salty and has 6 or 7 herbs in it.

with love
Eelco

sandy

16th May 2014, 04:47

Seikou-Kishi

16th May 2014, 07:08

I make my own toothpowder using xylitol, sodium bicarbonate and a range of different essential oils. My preferred flavour is 3 parts lime, 2 parts aniseed and 1 part peppermint or spearmint. (Incidentally, oils in that combination are a combination I give people for digestive discomfort and it works for anything ranging from mild festive overindulgence to irritable bowel syndrome and ulcerative colitis. It has a very pleasant flavour and can be taken as it is, mixed with water or added to a sugarcube or a pinch of xylitol or, in the case of kids, it can be made "fun" by adding it to a basic sherbet made with ground xylitol, sodium bicarbonate and citric or tartaric acid.)

If you have oral hygiene that needs a firmer response, shall we say, you could use melissa (Lemonbalm) oil for fungal and bacterial infections and even viral infections like coldsores. Thyme is a great oil for gum health and is potently antibacterial. Clove oil is another good one and will help numb any pain, though if you only ever make a small batch at a time, even a single drop could be too much for some people. Another great oil is oregano, which pairs well with thyme, and cinnamon. Sage and myrrh also make an effective combination.

Xylitol is a sugar that the body produces from other sugars and which is also present in small amounts in most fruits, particularly berries. It is extracted in profitable quantities from birch sap. The only concern is there are two different kinds, one is naturally created by plants like birch trees, the other is chemically synthesised by hydrolysis. Get a form labelled "all natural" etc. Xylitol is an amazing sugar because it doesn't feed bacteria. Actually, most simple bacteria lack the enzymatic complexity to digest it the way humans do (dogs can't either, so don't give them any). When most bacteria try to digest it, it actually blocks their glycocalyx, which has the effect of suffocating/starving them, reducing bacterial colonies in the mouth. It also is not acidic like common sugar and feels cool in the mouth as it normalises oral PH and even convinces the body to remineralise the teeth which makes it an effective partner for sodium bicarbonate, which is used in such remineralisation. It has a glycaemic index of 7 compared with glucose's 100 and as such it does not cause blood-sugar spikes and the resultant oxidative stress. It has 60% of the calorific value of glucose and is also suitable for those with diabetes.

To make a basic toothpowder by this recipe:
2-3 tablespoons xylitol
3 tablespoons sodium bicarbonate
Essential oils to flavour or for their benefits

Grind the xylitol in a coffee grinder until it is a fine powder. Add the oils and mix. Then stir in the sodium bicarbonate. Adding the oils before mixing both powders helps prevent clumping and also makes mixing easier. When all ingredients are mixed, the powder will shine in a way none of the ingredients do separately. You could use more sodium bicarbonate in relation to the amount of xylitol you use, but it does not have a pleasant taste and the xylitol's sweetness is great for overcoming that. At the same time, the effect xylitol has on the mouth is very appealing. When you first taste it, you would be forgiven for thinking it tastes ever so slightly of mint, but actually this "taste" is an illusion caused by the way xylitol cools the mouth (by changing oral PH to the ideal). Once you've had xylitol, you will realise how hot common sugar actually is in the mouth and it may become unpalatable. My toothpowders leave teeth so healthy that dental sensitivity is resolved permanently in under a week and teeth are left so clean they feel shinier than with other powders and pastes.

You can make such a powder into paste with a little glycerin/glycerine/glycerol (three names, one substance). I have never tried Sandy's approach of using coconut oil but it sounds like it should work, so that's another option. You can also turn the powder into mouthwash by dissolving it in water � you may need to give it a shake if the oils separate out of the mixture, though if you make it as you need it, this shouldn't happen.

If anybody has any specific requirements or needs when it comes to oral hygiene, please don't hesitate to ask and I will recommend bespoke recipes to meet those requirments.

Sooz

16th May 2014, 10:42

I use 'Manuka & Propolis Toothpaste, with Manuka Oil.'
Dental Pro 7 oil 6 drops in water as a mouthwash at night
Tea Tree oil in, 6 drops in water as mouthwash in morning
Once a month brush with turmeric powder to keep teeth white.
:grin::fpalm:

Highland1

16th May 2014, 11:33

Hi WhiteFeather,

Thanks for the music :whstl:

I make my own >>>equal parts coconut oil and baking soda and you can add peppermint essential oil and stevia for some sweetness if you desire. Hope this helps :)

I use that too Sandy as well as Sooz's recommendation of turmeric.
Trouble is, my mix is very solid and I have to heat it up to soften it before brushing my teeth.
I guess my alchemy skills are too basic!

Russ

Seikou-Kishi

16th May 2014, 12:43

I would never have thought that the spice that dyes everything Essex Orange would be useful for whitening teeth :-)

Sooz

16th May 2014, 13:38

I would never have thought that the spice that dyes everything Essex Orange would be useful for whitening teeth :-)

I know it's bizarre. It stains the bejeezus out of everything except your teeth and does the complete opposite and whitens them. It can stain your skin for days.

It's crazy I know.

But use Spiral's tip, don't use the turmeric paste on an electric toothbrush!.....I thought I was the only dumb one to do something like that.....:hilarious: except I didn't, but I could imagine it.

You could spend hours in the bathroom cleaning up that mess. Lol...I feel better that Spiral has done that and not me.:ninja:

Moonlight

17th May 2014, 11:14

Great song.... interesting pants.

http://youtu.be/u0iuaxvkXv4

Why don't we listen to the voices in our hearts
'Cause then I know we'd find that we're not so far apart
Everybody's got to be happy, everyone should sing
For we know the joy of life, the peace that love can bring

1inMany

17th May 2014, 14:36

Great song.... interesting pants.

http://youtu.be/u0iuaxvkXv4

Haha, those pants are too much! Has this guy visited the tent? Pretty good description of the wizards I know. Quite the message, as well.

Moonlight

17th May 2014, 20:49

Haha, those pants are too much! Has this guy visited the tent? Pretty good description of the wizards I know. Quite the message, as well.

I'm pretty sure he did since he has WhiteFeather's avatar on his pants. LOL Anyway, he's here now. Great lyrics indeed.

lookbeyond

18th May 2014, 08:08

I make my own toothpowder using xylitol, sodium bicarbonate and a range of different essential oils. My preferred flavour is 3 parts lime, 2 parts aniseed and 1 part peppermint or spearmint. (Incidentally, oils in that combination are a combination I give people for digestive discomfort and it works for anything ranging from mild festive overindulgence to irritable bowel syndrome and ulcerative colitis. It has a very pleasant flavour and can be taken as it is, mixed with water or added to a sugarcube or a pinch of xylitol or, in the case of kids, it can be made "fun" by adding it to a basic sherbet made with ground xylitol, sodium bicarbonate and citric or tartaric acid.)

If you have oral hygiene that needs a firmer response, shall we say, you could use melissa (Lemonbalm) oil for fungal and bacterial infections and even viral infections like coldsores. Thyme is a great oil for gum health and is potently antibacterial. Clove oil is another good one and will help numb any pain, though if you only ever make a small batch at a time, even a single drop could be too much for some people. Another great oil is oregano, which pairs well with thyme, and cinnamon. Sage and myrrh also make an effective combination.

Xylitol is a sugar that the body produces from other sugars and which is also present in small amounts in most fruits, particularly berries. It is extracted in profitable quantities from birch sap. The only concern is there are two different kinds, one is naturally created by plants like birch trees, the other is chemically synthesised by hydrolysis. Get a form labelled "all natural" etc. Xylitol is an amazing sugar because it doesn't feed bacteria. Actually, most simple bacteria lack the enzymatic complexity to digest it the way humans do (dogs can't either, so don't give them any). When most bacteria try to digest it, it actually blocks their glycocalyx, which has the effect of suffocating/starving them, reducing bacterial colonies in the mouth. It also is not acidic like common sugar and feels cool in the mouth as it normalises oral PH and even convinces the body to remineralise the teeth which makes it an effective partner for sodium bicarbonate, which is used in such remineralisation. It has a glycaemic index of 7 compared with glucose's 100 and as such it does not cause blood-sugar spikes and the resultant oxidative stress. It has 60% of the calorific value of glucose and is also suitable for those with diabetes.

To make a basic toothpowder by this recipe:
2-3 tablespoons xylitol
3 tablespoons sodium bicarbonate
Essential oils to flavour or for their benefits

Grind the xylitol in a coffee grinder until it is a fine powder. Add the oils and mix. Then stir in the sodium bicarbonate. Adding the oils before mixing both powders helps prevent clumping and also makes mixing easier. When all ingredients are mixed, the powder will shine in a way none of the ingredients do separately. You could use more sodium bicarbonate in relation to the amount of xylitol you use, but it does not have a pleasant taste and the xylitol's sweetness is great for overcoming that. At the same time, the effect xylitol has on the mouth is very appealing. When you first taste it, you would be forgiven for thinking it tastes ever so slightly of mint, but actually this "taste" is an illusion caused by the way xylitol cools the mouth (by changing oral PH to the ideal). Once you've had xylitol, you will realise how hot common sugar actually is in the mouth and it may become unpalatable. My toothpowders leave teeth so healthy that dental sensitivity is resolved permanently in under a week and teeth are left so clean they feel shinier than with other powders and pastes.

You can make such a powder into paste with a little glycerin/glycerine/glycerol (three names, one substance). I have never tried Sandy's approach of using coconut oil but it sounds like it should work, so that's another option. You can also turn the powder into mouthwash by dissolving it in water — you may need to give it a shake if the oils separate out of the mixture, though if you make it as you need it, this shouldn't happen.

If anybody has any specific requirements or needs when it comes to oral hygiene, please don't hesitate to ask and I will recommend bespoke recipes to meet those requirments.

SK thankyou for this informative post, I have read somewhere (im sorry cant remember where) that glycerin in toothpaste prevents remineralisation of teeth, do you (or anyone else) know if this is correct?

Also does anyone know if brushing ones teeth straight after eating is advisable- i also read somewhere that we should wait approx 30 minutes before brushing- all my questions are related to my new thread re my childrens teeth, "dental fluorosis"- please all who may be able to advise read,thankyou lookbeyond

Seikou-Kishi

18th May 2014, 12:46

SK thankyou for this informative post, I have read somewhere (im sorry cant remember where) that glycerin in toothpaste prevents remineralisation of teeth, do you (or anyone else) know if this is correct?

Also does anyone know if brushing ones teeth straight after eating is advisable- i also read somewhere that we should wait approx 30 minutes before brushing- all my questions are related to my new thread re my childrens teeth, "dental fluorosis"- please all who may be able to advise read,thankyou lookbeyond

As for glycerin — I don't know. I tend not to use it but only because it's redundant. When it comes to brushing immediately after eating — yes, that's not advisable; after eating the surface enamel is somewhat liquified and brushing before it is hardened again removes it permanently. Five minutes before I brush my teeth, I rinse my mouth with sodium bicarbonate to raise the PH of my mouth to prevent such loss. A big mistake people make is to brush their teeth if eating something acidic has left their teeth irritated. That feeling is a clear indication of liquefied tooth enamel. In such cases, a sodium bicarbonate rinse is much more suitable.

Mars Planitia

19th May 2014, 15:13

Thanks for the many great informative responses on Organic Toothpaste.

And this was exceptionally priceless Seikou. Asquali

"I make my own toothpowder using xylitol, sodium bicarbonate and a range of different essential oils. My preferred flavour is 3 parts lime, 2 parts aniseed and 1 part peppermint or spearmint. (Incidentally, oils in that combination are a combination I give people for digestive discomfort and it works for anything ranging from mild festive overindulgence to irritable bowel syndrome and ulcerative colitis. It has a very pleasant flavour and can be taken as it is, mixed with water or added to a sugarcube or a pinch of xylitol or, in the case of kids, it can be made "fun" by adding it to a basic sherbet made with ground xylitol, sodium bicarbonate and citric or tartaric acid.)

If you have oral hygiene that needs a firmer response, shall we say, you could use melissa (Lemonbalm) oil for fungal and bacterial infections and even viral infections like coldsores. Thyme is a great oil for gum health and is potently antibacterial. Clove oil is another good one and will help numb any pain, though if you only ever make a small batch at a time, even a single drop could be too much for some people. Another great oil is oregano, which pairs well with thyme, and cinnamon. Sage and myrrh also make an effective combination.

Xylitol is a sugar that the body produces from other sugars and which is also present in small amounts in most fruits, particularly berries. It is extracted in profitable quantities from birch sap. The only concern is there are two different kinds, one is naturally created by plants like birch trees, the other is chemically synthesised by hydrolysis. Get a form labelled "all natural" etc. Xylitol is an amazing sugar because it doesn't feed bacteria. Actually, most simple bacteria lack the enzymatic complexity to digest it the way humans do (dogs can't either, so don't give them any). When most bacteria try to digest it, it actually blocks their glycocalyx, which has the effect of suffocating/starving them, reducing bacterial colonies in the mouth. It also is not acidic like common sugar and feels cool in the mouth as it normalises oral PH and even convinces the body to remineralise the teeth which makes it an effective partner for sodium bicarbonate, which is used in such remineralisation. It has a glycaemic index of 7 compared with glucose's 100 and as such it does not cause blood-sugar spikes and the resultant oxidative stress. It has 60% of the calorific value of glucose and is also suitable for those with diabetes.

To make a basic toothpowder by this recipe:
2-3 tablespoons xylitol
3 tablespoons sodium bicarbonate
Essential oils to flavour or for their benefits

Grind the xylitol in a coffee grinder until it is a fine powder. Add the oils and mix. Then stir in the sodium bicarbonate. Adding the oils before mixing both powders helps prevent clumping and also makes mixing easier. When all ingredients are mixed, the powder will shine in a way none of the ingredients do separately. You could use more sodium bicarbonate in relation to the amount of xylitol you use, but it does not have a pleasant taste and the xylitol's sweetness is great for overcoming that. At the same time, the effect xylitol has on the mouth is very appealing. When you first taste it, you would be forgiven for thinking it tastes ever so slightly of mint, but actually this "taste" is an illusion caused by the way xylitol cools the mouth (by changing oral PH to the ideal). Once you've had xylitol, you will realise how hot common sugar actually is in the mouth and it may become unpalatable. My toothpowders leave teeth so healthy that dental sensitivity is resolved permanently in under a week and teeth are left so clean they feel shinier than with other powders and pastes.

You can make such a powder into paste with a little glycerin/glycerine/glycerol (three names, one substance). I have never tried Sandy's approach of using coconut oil but it sounds like it should work, so that's another option. You can also turn the powder into mouthwash by dissolving it in water — you may need to give it a shake if the oils separate out of the mixture, though if you make it as you need it, this shouldn't happen.

If anybody has any specific requirements or needs when it comes to oral hygiene, please don't hesitate to ask and I will recommend bespoke recipes to meet those requirments."

modwiz

21st May 2014, 01:41

I quick visit to the cyber tent to be present. I know the regulars are out surfing the cosmic waves until further notice.:grin:

I am around for a few hours every day and will post anything that would make sense to put into words. This is no time for living vicariously.:shocked:

Calz

21st May 2014, 17:16

http://media.giphy.com/media/T6py3xnmo9ah2/original.gif

PurpleLama

22nd May 2014, 15:14

Sign posts can be living beings, being pulled down from the loftiest heights or up from the darkest depths, the end results tend to be the same.

3d life has been busier than ever for me, the gardens needing such attention, not to mention the kids, meanwhile work has been its busiest in years with me running a skeleton crew to boot, add to this a wild ride into magic that is so personal I cannot even begin to speak about it, as so much can be shared but some things simply cannot. And summer isn't even here, yet.

Mars Planitia

22nd May 2014, 15:19

Checking in to the Tent. Been very busy myself in 3D, the clock is moving way too fast for me now, somehow i need to slow it down. Time to jump into 5D.

PurpleLama

22nd May 2014, 17:31

http://cache.virtualtourist.com/6/1387317-Multi_headed_Snake_Thailand.jpg

PurpleLama

22nd May 2014, 22:57

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=837248&viewfull=1#post837248

Moonlight

22nd May 2014, 23:07

For Marianne....I love you.

http://youtu.be/n9m99IX6kns

She mentioned once that it was one of her favorite tunes. I thought about her today while listening to it.... check the running time, 333. She'll be fine.

modwiz

23rd May 2014, 04:32

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=837248&viewfull=1#post837248

Understood.

modwiz

25th May 2014, 06:34

Here is an excellent piece written by Manitonquat (Medicine Story). What humanity is awakening to is old Native wisdom. The earlier part of the article frames the Gaian vs. Archontic dynamic perfectly without using Gnostic terms, of course.:p

What made us human was this experience of living tribally, in a circle of equals, in groups larger than the extended families of our primate relatives but small enough that the individuals were able to know each other well. A true tribe must provide protection and support to every member equally. I a truly human society there can be no discrimination against any individual regardless of age, physical or mental capacity, sex, or sexual preference.

The whole tribe, therefore, has a sense of involvement and responsibility for each child, which takes a lot of burden off the parents. As well as the elders, clan leaders and band chiefs, the siblings, the grand parents, the aunts and uncles, the cousins, all have roles in helping and guiding the little children. The child grows with a sense of belonging, of being cared about, of having a place and a value among his or her people.

Consider too the effect on all the adults of the tribe of being with, caring for and guiding the children. When we honor the children, when we listen to them and pay attention to their thoughts and feelings, it has a wonderful effect on us. It nurtures our own sense of caring and our thoughts for their welfare. And when we have that attitude of caring and paying good attention to them, we are constantly being confronted by the innate wisdom that we once ourselves possessed, that we brought into this world in our nature. That wisdom which the exigencies of survival in our complicated and confusing world have buried in forgotten closets of our consciousness. Consider the effect that living so close to the children in the community would have had on our evolution as social beings. Consider how far from that closeness and humanity our society has come in our isolation from each other. Imagine how having that wisdom again, living such closeness with respect, compassion, caring, growing and learning with our children might affect the world today.
http://www.zengardner.com/tribe-want-one/

Calz

26th May 2014, 16:16

Serious wizard material going on here ...

____________

An eight year old explains what crystal grids do to clear negative energy

By Laron

Within this seven minute video, eight year old Adam discusses information based upon a number of crystal based grids which he has designed and created and how they can help to transmute dark energy into positive based energy. Adam goes on to say that he connected into the crystals themselves to understand how to put together these grids, and what the purpose was of doing this.

The video description explains that it took Adam about 10 minutes to build these grids which contain such crystals as Amethyst, Apophyllite, Celestial Smoky Quartz, Clear Quartz points, Vogels, and several Lemurian Seed Crystals.

I just want to add that I have done two courses on crystals and one of my teachers was able to connect into the crystals, similar to how Adam explains it. This is not as unusual or unbelievable as it may sound to some and this is exactly the type of thing I expect to occur more frequently in the future, easpecially for young people, as we move more fully into the astrological based age of Aquarius.

U5sSlfvsgYA

http://www.transients.info/2014/05/an-eight-year-old-explains-what-crystal.html

modwiz

27th May 2014, 19:51

A day to myself and went to our lake/pond. Had been there about an hour and a half and was going to get some lunch, breakfast for me, when two friends asked if I wanted to join them for a canoe ride onto a secluded part of the lake to enjoy some of the plant gifts of Gaia. It was my second tobacco use of the day and it got me pleasantly loopy. Along with another synergist.:eyebrows:

The serene beauty of gliding across a lake, especially with an experience paddler, is one of my favorite things. Both hawks and an eagle could be seen flying/hunting over the lake. Turtles bob back under the water at our approach. We caught no sight of the beavers who have constructed a little dam at an of the outflow streams of the lake.

Came back to shore and played my 12 string on the beach for about an hour. Next, a shower and then dinner. A massage a little while after dinner and back to the tent to prepare for another five days of meaningful interactions with others.

All in all, life is very good. Even filling out last night's divorce papers was only as difficult as paper work always is to me.:p Emotional attachments do not trump the peace and self direction of life for me. I have lived a blessed path with only coyote times of discomfort. Childhood not included, it is a given that without self empowerment ones life is not their own.

Coyote discomfort is the kind that results from our own doing. When things blow up in our face or we get run over by our own car.:ha:

An empowered time to all.:grin:

:swing:

mojo

27th May 2014, 20:53

modwiz

27th May 2014, 21:06

hi modwiz knowing it's a "tenting life" you live... curious your thoughts on the Hennessy hammock? It seems like it would be comfy as long as there's a tree or two around....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrXjuwsxzOo

I really like the real queen size bed, with comfort-rest, I sleep in now. I live in a tent but, I am hardly camping.:eyebrows:

1inMany

27th May 2014, 21:36

I am also looking at my divorce papers, received them today. Odd. They aren't tearing me up, either. I think it has something to do with how much I processed in the last seven or eight months. I'm sure I'm not done, but I'm relieved to have the worst behind me.

I saw this a moment ago. I keep faceblick to keep an eye on my girls. And I keep an eye on the Return of the Divine Feminine. This lady doesn't post too often, but I find her shares to be worth a minute of my time. Here is what she said today:

The mystery of the Divine Feminine speaks to us from within her creation. She is not a distant god in heaven, but a presence that is here with us, needing our response. She is the Divine returning to claim her creation, the real wonder of what it means to be alive. We have forgotten her, just as we have forgotten so much of what is sacred, and yet she is always part of us.

But now she needs to be known again, not just as a myth, as a spiritual image, but as something that belongs to the blood and the breath. She can awaken us to an expectancy in the air, to an ancient memory coming alive in a new way. She can help us to give birth to the Divine that is within us, to the oneness that is all around us. She can help us to remember our real nature.

~ Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

This is eerily synchronistic for me. Eerily.

modwiz

27th May 2014, 22:37

ronin

27th May 2014, 22:54

i wonder if there is a timeframe for the correction?
a year,five years,ten?

there seems to be a push from both sides,a quickening for the destruction of the planet ,environment and life on earth,by different methods such as chemtrails,harrp?ect
then there is mother earth fighting back quietly and stealthily .
something has to give as we are not as humans the important species on Gia but all life is in this ecological system.
if any thing we think we are top of the food chain but we rely on everything else that we are intent on destroying.

1inMany

27th May 2014, 23:39

A beautiful and powerful post. No Gnostic or Neo-Gnostic (John Lash) terms. Just what is going on at the level of planetary consciousness. She;s here and she is ready to get down to work with us. The work of correcting the wrongs that bedevil this planet. Namely, the inter-species predators and he world they set up. That would be archontic humans.

Do you suppose that is what people mean when they refer to the Divine Feminine? Planetary consciousness?

That whole quote is so synchronistic with recent events for me. It is really wild. Gave me chills and I was stunned. Dreams, flashes of things, understandings, messages. I am so close to something it makes me crazy. Of course, 3d life having exploded lately I haven't been able to get much closer. Which then leads to frustration. But something is happening, this I know.

I would imagine that the whole correction process will take a while. I can't imagine it being a year, or a matter of years. Can you imagine how long it would take if each predator was removed, one at a time? Say...I don't know...they are taken care of one way or another. But en masse? I don't see that. I see it occurring over time. There is a lot going on here, much to do with dark magick and misusing energy. Energy that is pure at its core and has been corrupted ... or ... misused ... or ... something. Neither can I imagine those who can combat this in some way tipping their hands. Wouldn't be smart to show the ace up one's sleeve, I wouldn't suppose.

modwiz

28th May 2014, 00:57

Do you suppose that is what people mean when they refer to the Divine Feminine? Planetary consciousness?

This was the first time I saw it used in this lucid a description about a true divinity, in it, amongst us, having a body made of the same "stuff". We are a part of that, here, in the now and present being and our consciousness and Sophia's are ready to to enter into a new phase of interaction. Sophia is now our primary source for prayer and guidance. Her Source is our Source but, she is in the role of a goddess and her Will is our will if we are aligned with her. It is in complete alignment with Source.

modwiz

28th May 2014, 01:03

i wonder if there is a timeframe for the correction?
a year,five years,ten?

I can only state what is mine to say. The timeframe is: it has begun. It will be a peeling of an onion as different layers of the worldwide deception get exposed. Each layer containing its own epiphanies that create societal growth. A new ethos will be needed and a Gaian ethos, based on sovereignty and personal integrity, will grow into the voids created by elimination.

1inMany

28th May 2014, 01:20

Oh, modwiz, but the question that burns a hole in me these days. Who is she? Who is this? This feminine of divinity. I've read aboud Devi recently. I've been thinking of Gaia, and the evolutionary step in progress. Sophia...I recall that name from gnostic reading. But I fear the name Sophia is used to reference unrelated ideas.

I guess I will get there. Sure would be easier if I could retreat to a cave though.

:)

Calz

30th May 2014, 07:46

Sure would be easier if I could retreat to a cave though.

Searching for such myself ... if I find one you are welcome to join me :)

Cal

1inMany

30th May 2014, 11:50

Searching for such myself ... if I find one you are welcome to join me :)

Cal

:smiley hug:

It doesn't change anything to hear that the biggest gains in soul development are realized while plodding on, one foot in front of the other. And it doesn't change one's 3d life circumstances to know there's a huge shift in energy ongoing, or that one of these days...one of these generations...love will be the force through which humanity expresses itself. Sometimes, it doesn't help to know that people exit stage left when we become more conscious of what's real because the two frequencies, ours and theirs, cannot coexist.

Because it feels real. The experience is as real as it can possibly be. It can be complicated. Sometimes a smile isn't there, or a funny doesn't lift one up.

But...in some small way...we are here for each other. Odd. We come together and support each other, all knowing that this can be one difficult ****ing ride.

Much Love, my friend(s),

modwiz

31st May 2014, 18:54

The sense of a widening gap between those who are embracing the new paradigm and those who do not is very present for me. Even conversations in my treatment room are dramatically different from client to client. Translating concepts into words that can be understood by the "old worlders" is getting to be a challenge, at some levels.

The shore continues to recede into the distance.

lookbeyond

2nd June 2014, 05:52

Loloma my Kolas.
Yeah I Been mostly away from the internet of late.
Stopping by to say hello to the campers of the wood.
Question: Which organic toothpaste can anyone recommend here: Has anyone heard of Earth Paste? And or can you recommend one.

PS Enjoy some songs from the wood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAkSIwaUaNc

Hi WhiteFeather, i was recently reading about this Earthpaste, i thought it sounded quite good, apparantly however it comes with a warning on the label that it may contain lead, so i immediately lost interest and did not pursue,

Reguards lookbeyond

modwiz

4th June 2014, 17:42

Moonlight

7th June 2014, 00:28

Came across this 5 year old article by Charles Eisenstein, which I enjoyed a lot. Speaks to my soul.

Once upon a time a great tribe of people lived in a world far away from ours. Whether far away in space, or in time, or even outside of time, we do not know. They lived in a state of enchantment and joy that few of us today dare to believe could exist, except in those exceptional peak experiences when we glimpse the true potential of life and mind.

One day the shaman of the tribe called a meeting. They gathered around him, and he spoke very solemnly. "My friends," he said, "there is a world that needs our help. It is called earth, and its fate hangs in the balance. Its humans have reached a critical point in their collective birthing, and they will be stillborn without our help. Who would like to volunteer for a mission to this time and place, and render service to humanity?"

"Tell us more about his mission," they asked.

"I am glad you asked, because it is no small thing. I will put you into a deep, deep trance, so complete that you will forget who you are. You will live a human life, and in the beginning you will completely forget your origins. You will forget even our language and your own true name. You will be separated from the wonder and beauty of our world, and from the love that bathes us all. You will miss it deeply, yet you will not know what it is you are missing. You will only remember the love and beauty that we know to be normal as a longing in your heart. Your memory will take the form of an intuitive knowledge, as you plunge into the painfully marred earth, that a more beautiful world is possible.

"As you grow up in that world, your knowledge will be under constant assault. You will be told in a million ways that a world of destruction, violence, drudgery, anxiety, and degradation is normal. You may go through a time when you are completely alone, with no allies to affirm your knowledge of a more beautiful world. You may plunge into a depth of despair that we, in our world of light, cannot imagine. But no matter what, a spark of knowledge will never leave you. A memory of your true origin will be encoded in your DNA. That spark will lie within you, inextinguishable, until one day it is awakened.

"You see, even though you will feel, for a time, utterly alone, you will not be alone. I will send you assistance, help that you will experience as miraculous, experiences that you will describe as transcendent. For a few moments or hours or days, you will reawaken to the beauty and the joy that is meant to be. You will see it on earth, for even though the planet and its people are deeply wounded, there is beauty there still, projected from past and future onto the present as a promise of what is possible and a reminder of what is real.

"You will also receive help from each other. As you begin to awaken to your mission you will meet others of our tribe. You will recognize them by your common purpose, values, and intuitions, and by the similarity of the paths you have walked. As the condition of the planet earth reaches crisis proportions, your paths will cross more and more. The time of loneliness, the time of thinking you might be crazy, will be over.

For more: http://realitysandwich.com/18332/gathering_tribe/

Calz

9th June 2014, 16:55

Hello all. I visit TOT several times every day. Tenters are out enjoying the new Earth while the rest of TOT entertains itself. Very little relevant to me personally so I lurk. Smiles and hugs to my friends.

Not sure where (or if) I fit into that mix ...

... hopefully into the friend mix as I could use a smile or hug ...

Making another attempt at the "master cleanser fast" this Thursday with the full moon (as you recommend) and trying again with a wand Purple was amazing enough to share.

Tough road for me lately but ... hey ... I seem to be still alive???

Miss your posts (with no room to speak as I have gone mostly stealth myself) ...

Seikou-Kishi

9th June 2014, 18:26

modwiz

9th June 2014, 18:51

Not sure where (or if) I fit into that mix ...

... hopefully into the friend mix as I could use a smile or hug ...

You certainly fit into that mix.

1inMany

9th June 2014, 18:56

I am missing the activity in the magical tent too. Not that there isn't plenty going on elsewhere ha. But...missing the lively feel of things in here.

PurpleLama

18th June 2014, 17:15

modwiz

24th June 2014, 20:40

Had a wonderful 3 way call with PL and 1inmany last night. The gathering is in effect and late Fall will see some new beginnings of cohesiveness and implementations for the new future of humanity. This Winter will provide much food for thought for all, and many challenges.

Community/tribe, instead of family, as the real core to build from will become increasingly obvious to many.

All is well. (Jorr)

1inMany

25th June 2014, 14:24

Basically, I sit in awe of the knowledge my two favorite wizards bat back and forth. And in awe of the experience you both have from living from this place. I was sharing with my daughter, M, a little of the conversation. And how amazed I am, and how honored I feel to be in such company. And how I really didn't say too much. She shared that this is how she felt sitting and listening to PL and me talk. Which blew me away actually.

I guess it is like PL said, each of us offers a hand to the next person. Each from our own place, wherever we find ourselves.

Had a wonderful 3 way call with PL and 1inmany last night. The gathering is in effect and late Fall will see some new beginnings of cohesiveness and implementations for the new future of humanity. This Winter will provide much food for thought for all, and many challenges.

Community/tribe, instead of family, as the real core to build from will become increasingly obvious to many.

All is well. (Jorr)

PurpleLama

25th June 2014, 19:23

It isn't just reaching out from where we are at, but reaching folks where *they* are at. No use in trying to offer a hand to someone out of reach.

The way things are going, pieces just falling into place, the hand of Universe is ever more apparent to me, and for this I am grateful.

My mom and her husband will be down this coming weekend, we may find more solid plans in the wake of this upcoming visit. How nice would it be to find construction already began by the time fall arrives?

PurpleLama

25th June 2014, 19:25

In other words, 1, there are many you can reach, while I can reach you, so it goes, down the line. If you get out and observe more, you will see the things changing, just like we were saying.

1inMany

25th June 2014, 23:55

In other words, 1, there are many you can reach, while I can reach you, so it goes, down the line. If you get out and observe more, you will see the things changing, just like we were saying.

Get out more? Eh. I hear you, but... When I go out, I come home drained and feeling like I need a week to recover. I don't like that very much. Yesterday, I started the day in one state and ended in another. And clearly observed the change in the attitude of the people from place to place. And I feel the difference in the energy in each area. I don't like being out and about around here.

This has opened up something that I locked away long ago. One reason why I stay to myself. Who I am makes people uncomfortable apparently. And when I was very young, probably by the time I was 10, I learned to lock it up. It's scary to touch that place again. And this is also why I like my shell so much. Not sure what to do with this information. This part of who I am has been locked up for so long that it is uncomfortable to even experience it.

lookbeyond

26th June 2014, 00:32

Get out more? Eh. I hear you, but... When I go out, I come home drained and feeling like I need a week to recover. I don't like that very much. Yesterday, I started the day in one state and ended in another. And clearly observed the change in the attitude of the people from place to place. And I feel the difference in the energy in each area. I don't like being out and about around here.

This has opened up something that I locked away long ago. One reason why I stay to myself. Who I am makes people uncomfortable apparently. And when I was very young, probably by the time I was 10, I learned to lock it up. It's scary to touch that place again. And this is also why I like my shell so much. Not sure what to do with this information. This part of who I am has been locked up for so long that it is uncomfortable to even experience it.

I can totally relate to your post 1inmany,lb

PurpleLama

26th June 2014, 12:13

when we shine our light, its easy to see the apparent discomfort it causes in people, but outside in the real world, if one is but patiently observing, we may discover that such discomfort is not directed toward us at all, indeed our shining light goes unnoticed while something stirs and shifts within the people around us.

there are those, like the coworker of mine you met who was looking so lustfully at guys on her laptop, who have long since erected internal walls against such inner movements, but the majority of the people out there are ripe for such unseen influences, influences we are uniquely able to bring. If we don't do it, there isn't another to take our place, we are the last chance for so many people, especially regarding the situation here in 'Merica. where I live is no less conservative and backward than where you live, if anything it is potentially moreso, yet there are those here, and there, who have accepted that there is a job to do and noone but themselves to do it. go, and be a new and different star to shine over texas. until we have the earthship community, at least.

donk

26th June 2014, 16:35

This wizard has come through a long and spiralling corridor, through lights and darkness, albeit with no special stories or wisdoms to share.

I want to say, Cal and Donk, you and your situations have been heavily upon my mind, and again I am wishing well for the positive outcomes of your adverse situations. As the right arm regains its strength, it is first for you will I raise my wand.

:wiz:

Mod, I hope we may converse again, soon.

Thought my ears were burning a little ways back...I been avoiding the tent (and possible attachment to y'alls' issues) for awhile, trying to get my house in order. I successfully removed a parasitic psychopath from my life, opening a nice void that was immediately filled with all kinds of OPPs (other people's problems)--something I've come to embrace, taking much care to NOT assume any responsibilities that are not my own...this was a huge weakness.

So I'm just checking in, want to give everyone some love and appreciation...I'll try to share more as time allows, I'm grateful for all of you! Been listening to a lot of TMBG, wanted to share this one I came across recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAMRTGv82Zo

Calz

26th June 2014, 17:40

Best to you donk ...

Seikou-Kishi

26th June 2014, 23:11

This wizard has come through a long and spiralling corridor, through lights and darkness, albeit with no special stories or wisdoms to share.

Oh, I don't know. There'll always be somebody curious to know what the corridor looked like :P

1inMany

27th June 2014, 15:55

Okay, I would consider the past few days to be "getting out." I have circulated a bit. Maybe there are a handful of people who are receptive to who I am. Maybe. I was sitting in the hospital yesterday, and had placed some stones around Little One. And the nurse went fishing them from where they were placed so that she could investigate. My first instinct was to cringe. I wanted to hide them, and myself too. I didn't want to have to explain. But she was such a light, this nurse. Young and vibrant. And really curious. She asked if they were for luck. Man, I did not want to go there. I stammered a bit actually. Gave her the most tame explanation I could come up with. I think that worked. Her receptivity surprised me.

So, maybe I will shine a little. Maybe. And see what happens.

KosmicKat

28th June 2014, 11:21

1inMany

29th June 2014, 11:02

It helps a lot to have supportive "loonies" to come back to if you need help picking yourself up when you are challenged. And it's wonderfully encouraging to hear that you are having positive experiences.

You are so right. I had removed myself to such an extent that my online communication came to a stand still, and I had forgotten that crazy is the new normal. I have to stop that. Without those I have met and connected with online, I become an island. And while I do like to hide, I don't think that is a very good thing for me to do.

I went out yesterday, had errands to run. And I set my intention that I would shine my light wherever I went. Folks around here are pretty friendly as a rule, but I usually keep my head down. This time I looked people in the eyes. No matter who. And it was weird, what happened. The response was surprising. People were coming up and talking to me that I didn't know, as if I had a sign on my chest saying "ask me anything." And I watched the facial expressions brighten as I walked by. I feel crazy even saying that.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I don't like this or if it is simply not what I am used to. I will have to ponder this.

1inMany

29th June 2014, 11:26

I can totally relate to your post 1inmany,lb

You know what, lb? It gives me a special feeling when someone says this. I didn't want to step back out of the tent without saying thank you. Sometimes I put myself "out there" and share from such a deep place that I feel rather exposed. You have no idea how many times I would like to go back and delete my posts. Constantly. But...then someone will mention that something I have shared has touched them. Sigh.

It sounds like maybe we both have some knowing thyself to do. Where does this wanting to hide originate? Was it a past life, or many, of being ostracized or burned at the stake for being who I am (we are)? Is it childhood programming? Is it a message floating around in the great collective thought bubble just waiting to descend?

Part of me wants to say "screw you. I am who I Am, and I will Be. Period." Well, screw you is the clean way to express it. Haha I think I should spend some time with this attitude.

Much love to you, blessings.

Moonlight

29th June 2014, 14:08

You couldn't hide that Light even if you wanted to 1. It shines through you always. :sun:

http://youtu.be/4k2jidqxEiE

1inMany

29th June 2014, 14:47

You couldn't hide that Light even if you wanted to 1. It shines through you always. :sun:

http://youtu.be/4k2jidqxEiE

Oh. Goodness. Aw geez. Well, thank you Moonlight. {hugs}

lookbeyond

30th June 2014, 01:08

[QUOTE=1inmany;26753]You know what, lb? It gives me a special feeling when someone says this. I didn't want to step back out of the tent without saying thank you. Sometimes I put myself "out there" and share from such a deep place that I feel rather exposed. You have no idea how many times I would like to go back and delete my posts. Constantly. But...then someone will mention that something I have shared has touched them. Sigh.

It sounds like maybe we both have some knowing thyself to do. Where does this wanting to hide originate? Was it a past life, or many, of being ostracized or burned at the stake for being who I am (we are)? Is it childhood programming? Is it a message floating around in the great collective thought bubble just waiting to descend?

Part of me wants to say "screw you. I am who I Am, and I will Be. Period." Well, screw you is the clean way to express it. Haha I think I should spend some time with this attitude.

Much love to you, blessings.[/QUOT

my entire life has been an exercise in isolation and degradation.Each stage characterised by these two, no interruption of the flow, with only small pockets of reprieve allowing me to remain "sane".From earliest memories, picking up the pace in recent months, if it peaks in this lifetime i dont know if i will be able to continue on, in coming to know myself, this pattern of self destruction and persecution by others (one and same),i have learned my lesson/s, there is nothing much left of "me", but while i am here, i will shine my light also, it is only a little glimmer, however enough to impact someone positively, in a small way

norman

30th June 2014, 01:12

You know what, lb? It gives me a special feeling when someone says this. I didn't want to step back out of the tent without saying thank you. Sometimes I put myself "out there" and share from such a deep place that I feel rather exposed. You have no idea how many times I would like to go back and delete my posts. Constantly. But...then someone will mention that something I have shared has touched them. Sigh.

It sounds like maybe we both have some knowing thyself to do. Where does this wanting to hide originate? Was it a past life, or many, of being ostracized or burned at the stake for being who I am (we are)? Is it childhood programming? Is it a message floating around in the great collective thought bubble just waiting to descend?

Part of me wants to say "screw you. I am who I Am, and I will Be. Period." Well, screw you is the clean way to express it. Haha I think I should spend some time with this attitude.

Much love to you, blessings.

my entire life has been an exercise in isolation and degradation.Each stage characterised by these two, no interruption of the flow, with only small pockets of reprieve allowing me to remain "sane".From earliest memories, picking up the pace in recent months, if it peaks in this lifetime i dont know if i will be able to continue on, in coming to know myself, this pattern of self destruction and persecution by others (one and same),i have learned my lesson/s, there is nothing much left of "me", but while i am here, i will shine my light also, it is only a little glimmer, however enough to impact someone positively, in a small way

And just so's you don't end up thinkin it's a girl thing, I could tell a similar story of my life.

modwiz

30th June 2014, 03:14

I live in two worlds simultaneously, with one foot in each world. Where, and how, I place my "weight" allows for adjustments in presentation, of self, appropriate for a situation. Forum presence and physical presence are so different. One is organic and the other is not.

What others think of me is none of my business. Fortunately, it is rarely a concern either. What I think of me is what counts and it is my higher Self "I" that is referenced. Not my flawed "live" persona, "I".

A handful of people assist me in maintaining some sanity in an insane world.

lookbeyond

30th June 2014, 05:37

i dont care what people think of me, i have been judged and misjudged my entire life, beginning with family first, but today a child suffered because of what someone thinks of me, its actually too much to bear, today is the beginning of the end for "me", i know "I" will go on, but the cost to my children is too high

KosmicKat

30th June 2014, 11:35

I'm sorry to hear that a child was assaulted, presumably because you were not such an easy target. Without knowing the whole situation the best I can offer is to suggest that both the child, and you, have to choose now. Of course, you can "go stealth", though if you're living in contrast to the sleepwalkers you won't be all that stealth. Or you can offer the child whatever protection you can, and your willingness to learn from one another. The alternative is that you both have to choose divergent paths in the hope that you will converge later.

In any case, hugs to both the affected parties, from

Myscha

1inMany

30th June 2014, 12:27

lb, hang in there. Life is messy. I know. Beleve me, I know. And it can be painful. I am sending waves of love and strength, if you are open to receive. Things are pretty effed up out there. I hear you. Put your sensors out (and within) and see if you can connect to your Guidance to find what you need. Your compass, your connection to all the strength that you need.

Thank you for the reminder, modwiz. I have not been doing my meditation, and that is where I uncover who I Am. It is where I ask questions and receive answers, though most often I don't understand what I receive. Sometimes physical life gets a little hectic and I feel like I lose ground. It isn't really lost, anything I've gained. And finally PL drilled it into me that I can pick up where I left off. I will be doing this, to try to step into who I Am more fully.

I have thought about this a bit, and I have identified a couple of the influences that have led me to hide. The first influence is a program handed to me when I was a toddler. My parents did not know what to do with me, emotions flowing through as they did. My very essence flowed, and somehow I know this. Putting myself into that space, I feel what that was like. There was one time, when I was about two I believe, that I got a whoopin. And I cried so hard I couldn't breathe and it was painful to sit. (Lord only knows what a two year old could do to warrant this.) And I remember my Mom threatening me that if I did not quit crying I would get another one. Thus it began. Too much emotion for my parents to handle. It was actuallly just the right amount for a Cancerian little girl, but they had no knowledge in this area.

I was always made fun of, being sensitive like I am. Always. Peers, family, members of the church in which I was raised. So I was trained to stifle myself. That's what I mean by learning to hide.

Nowadays, I am unlearning. I'm not inappropriately emotional. I practice allowing emotion to flow through while not allowing it to be baited and used. Emotion does not equate to drama. And really and truly, there is a part of me that has no emotion, way down deep. A place inside where everything and nothing simultaneously exist. I have learned to exist in both, the physical and the nonphysical at the same time. I realize, though, that I have not exercised this muscle enough to be able to live from this place of peace and pure energy. That is where my frustration comes in. But, I know this is human frustration.

Oh, hell, looks like I'm rambling again. Haha. Oops.

PurpleLama

30th June 2014, 19:42

You are so right. I had removed myself to such an extent that my online communication came to a stand still, and I had forgotten that crazy is the new normal. I have to stop that. Without those I have met and connected with online, I become an island. And while I do like to hide, I don't think that is a very good thing for me to do.

I went out yesterday, had errands to run. And I set my intention that I would shine my light wherever I went. Folks around here are pretty friendly as a rule, but I usually keep my head down. This time I looked people in the eyes. No matter who. And it was weird, what happened. The response was surprising. People were coming up and talking to me that I didn't know, as if I had a sign on my chest saying "ask me anything." And I watched the facial expressions brighten as I walked by. I feel crazy even saying that.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I don't like this or if it is simply not what I am used to. I will have to ponder this.
Told ya so, I told ya so. :b

1inMany

30th June 2014, 20:13

Told ya so, I told ya so. :b

Stfu comes to mind. Hahaha :b

Mars Planitia

1st July 2014, 12:28

Hey Campers, been away on my small journeys of late, stopping by to say Loloma (Hello/Greetings in Native Tongue). All is as expected and on my timely schedule. And time is the only thing that cannot be measured.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWTLUmUjo8A

Hope all are well.

<~Vince~>

Calz

1st July 2014, 15:00

Stfu comes to mind. Hahaha :b

Starting to find Universe???

How galactic of you 1 ... :fpalm:

... and oh btw ...

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/3a/35/ce/3a35cefb7dc28ca385e414f58aafc51d.jpg

1inMany

1st July 2014, 16:18

Oh, calz, you made me lol! First laugh of the day. I love you, bro.

Thanks for announcing another birthday for me, really appreciate that. :b

I prefer...Happy New Year. :) I decided that today. About five minutes ago, haha. Undoubtedly, this new year offers many new beginnings. I hope to take each one offered, and see where it leads. Here is to new adventures!

Starting to find Universe???

How galactic of you 1 ... :fpalm:

... and oh btw ...

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/3a/35/ce/3a35cefb7dc28ca385e414f58aafc51d.jpg

Calz

1st July 2014, 16:39

Happy New Year it is then ... and I love you too my sis.

You have already turned the corner so you are way ahead of me ...

You have some very wise and powerful friends looking out for you (aside from what you have within and above).

http://media.giphy.com/media/nZ0oRwDaXxvKU/giphy.gif

1inMany

1st July 2014, 17:15

Eh. True, I've turned so many corners I couldn't count them ... but ... I see as many ahead. A maze, this is. I am more grateful for my friends than I can express, yes. You have these, as well, my friend. You have everything within your grasp, just as I do. Deciding what to hold on to, and what to let go, well...for me that's the tricky part.

Happy New Year it is then ... and I love you too my sis.

You have already turned the corner so you are way ahead of me ...

You have some very wise and powerful friends looking out for you (aside from what you have within and above).

http://media.giphy.com/media/nZ0oRwDaXxvKU/giphy.gif

Calz

1st July 2014, 17:22

Deciding what to hold on to, and what to let go, well...for me that's the tricky part.

Indeed.

... and yet there have been some that have foretold of these types of decisions ... family bonds vs those who share our own core values and beliefs.

Whatcha gonna do when it comes for you???

Having a strong circle of "forum friends" is certainly a blessing and helps navigate many narrow straights.

I'd name names ... but really don't have to ...

modwiz

1st July 2014, 19:39

Deciding what to hold on to, and what to let go, well...for me that's the tricky part.

It's a very important part as well.

norman

1st July 2014, 19:50

Eh. True, I've turned so many corners I couldn't count them ... but ... I see as many ahead. A maze, this is. I am more grateful for my friends than I can express, yes. You have these, as well, my friend. You have everything within your grasp, just as I do. Deciding what to hold on to, and what to let go, well...for me that's the tricky part.

It's a very important part as well.

I may be misreading the ET phenomena but I think we don't get to decide what's got rid of and what's kept.

The hybrids are already among us, like sapiens-sapians among the Neanderthals and the Neanderthals are talking among themselves about the way forward for 'them'.

Have we ever been as in charge as our egos have loved to live?

modwiz

1st July 2014, 19:58

I may be misreading the ET phenomena but I think we don't get to decide what's got rid of and what's kept.

The hybrids are already among us, like sapiens-sapians among the Neanderthals and the Neanderthals are talking among themselves about the way forward for 'them'.

Have we ever been as in charge as our egos have loved to live?

Our choices are our power. Humanity has much intelligence and organization within its ranks, much of it watered down by sleepers and the more humbly gifted.

To be born on this planet, and aware of its meaning, is something that cannot be taken from us. It is only possible for them to try and deceive us about this.

There is so much more to this but, it has been gone over before and I have made a choice to get off the hamster wheel.

We will reap our choices.

Calz

1st July 2014, 20:10

Happy ... oh .. sorry ... happy ... dammit I did it again ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Sxv-sUYtM

Calz

1st July 2014, 20:34

Oh laughing again ... no one here wants to be happy ... lol.

ronin

1st July 2014, 20:59

this video has gone viral and brings a smile to many people,this is what life is about.
just enjoying what you have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkLozgvYvLs

so simple.so full of love,and innocent .they are enjoying what they have.

1inMany

1st July 2014, 21:35

I like that song calz. I have felt like that once in a while. Had it stuck in my head but then I listened to that heartwarming duet. Reminds me of Em and me in the car, same song. Eye roll at myself.

Of course, that leads me to think of what a wise one told me here lately. Maybe happy has strings attached while joy is pure being.

PurpleLama

1st July 2014, 21:59

PurpleLama

1st July 2014, 22:17

Speaking for myself, based on my own interactions, no "human" has existed without some level of otherworldly interaction, although it is exceedingly suppressed in the vast majority of individuals. We are a hybrid race, from the very start, a galactic melting pot. Some have had injections of outer influences more recently than others, within the scale of transmigrating souls moving about the solar wheel/mill, some have sought and received such "upgrades" within these current incarnations we are now enjoying. Many, many amongst us have sought such, and been left wanting, for they wanted to see, they wanted evidence, something empirical to stand as proof as what was/is happening, all the while forgetting to watch themselves as they changed. This goes for me, and you, and you and you and you and you. All qualified with a healthy IMO and IME.

1inMany

1st July 2014, 23:01

Lord help me, I'm asking. Our bodies could be a mix of genetic inflluences...and...our minds could be subject to external influence...and... we are not either of those. So wtf are we? I guess there is that part of us that is pure consciousness, but man, oh man, there are a lot of possibilities between here and there. And why in the world do I get past all this and then find myself right back in the middle of identifying with this body and mind?

And what do you mean, PL, they forgot to watch themselves for changes, those who asked/wanted evidence?

And why would otherworldly interactions and such be exceedingly suppressed?

Aw geez, and while I'm at it, I wonder why it is that we can't know all this about our true nature, whatever that is, in the first place? Why must I continually go through the process of losing my mind? Maybe I haven't lost it to the extent needed? Could I please just take a pill and be done with it? hahaha

ronin

1st July 2014, 23:24

Hybrids amongst us? How about hybrids *are* us, at least for the most part. Jury is still out about ronin. (kidding)

hmm and am i to be judged?
from the ant to the butterfly to the bee to the wolve.
from a wolve to a seahorse we are who we are .
of course.
a human to a hybrid to a alien that exists
would source judge us all or would it dismiss.

i have felt the forums doubts for a few week now.
and what can i say ,i have felt the backchatter and the concern that you feel.

only no one ask me what is for real.
but i accept that,because that is how life is.
many fingers pointing.
i have nothing to forgive.

i need no jury to show me my path.
that is why i am Ronin for i stand alone steadfast.
i offer my emotions that range from anger to love.
but it seems you have a problem with all of the above.

i have no issue with any of it at all.
but i can see and feel the lies of the flies.
thats Beelzebub call
no one wants to want to ask a question or two.
but are willing to give jury service without my consent to you.

very interesting from my perspective,but not surprising.as this has happened all my life.
whilste you consider and whisper without questions i will keep on searching.
through life experience i choose my friends very very carefully.
and they are few!

now then?

Catsquotl

2nd July 2014, 04:05

Lord help me, I'm asking. Our bodies could be a mix of genetic inflluences...and...our minds could be subject to external influence...and... we are not either of those. So wtf are we?

We are life experiencing itself.
We just think we are some-body having the experience of being a person. As life is always changing, transient, we conjure ideas of growth, of evolution, of having to become...

There is no need for that. Just be and all is well.(even if it doesn't feel like it.

With Love
Eelco

1inMany

2nd July 2014, 10:53

Where, and how, I place my "weight" allows for adjustments in presentation, of self, appropriate for a situation.

How do you do that, modwiz?

Forum presence and physical presence are so different. One is organic and the other is not.

I've been thinking about this. I can't decide which presence would be organic and which would not. On the one hand, I could see that who you are inside, You, would be constantly learning and growing as apparently there is always more. But on the other hand, would this not effect the you that is present in the physical world? So, then, would they not both be organic? I do not understand.

1inMany

2nd July 2014, 11:48

Right you are, Eelco. I see that. Yes. Could be, yes.

After my moment of apparent obtusity, I got to thinking. (Don't I always?) I really am struggling with how to proceed. I am obviously not done getting my ego and my mind under my control. Obviously. And one or the other constantly pressents itself with quite a nice tantrum. If meditation is the answer, and it is *always* and *forevermore* given to me as the answer, then why the reluctance? Why the force against it, so strong that I don't even want to fight it? Is this because I must be getting somewhere? Is this because I have allowed them free reign for so much of this life? And where in the heck did my determination go, and my excitement? Sheesh.

And, okay, let's say this isn't real. None of it. There are times I *know* this to be true. And other times...

So...why can I not step into My place...and stay there?

What's real? What.....Is......Real?????

I ask Myself that. My answer is that this place is real, this space I step into. That's what's real. The space in which I feel ... bigger. I feel less matter, less physicality. Okay, so what pulls me back into this false belief that matter is the only realness? When those I care for are struggling. When someone around me is struggling. I have grown, I'm sure, because the small stuff doesn't drag me back in. Just the big stuff. So that's a good sign. But the big stuff still sucks me back in. You know, big stuff. Like if my daughter is in fear for her safety because her abusive boyfriend is strung out on drugs and is in possession of a gun. I have accepted that she is making choices for her own growth, yet, I cannot hellp but feel pulled to kick his ass. And in that moment of being pulled to kick his ass, I am sucked back into the false belief that this is real.

I would like to detach more. But I do not know if I will ever be detached to the point that I do not want to kick some ass. Plus, what is part of me, after having shown itself, is very real also. And that part will be kicking some ass at some point. Though I know not how or when. I know it will.

Meditation. That is the key, is it? sigh

PurpleLama

2nd July 2014, 12:18

hmm and am i to be judged?
from the ant to the butterfly to the bee to the wolve.
from a wolve to a seahorse we are who we are .
of course.
a human to a hybrid to a alien that exists
would source judge us all or would it dismiss.

i have felt the forums doubts for a few week now.
and what can i say ,i have felt the backchatter and the concern that you feel.

only no one ask me what is for real.
but i accept that,because that is how life is.
many fingers pointing.
i have nothing to forgive.

i need no jury to show me my path.
that is why i am Ronin for i stand alone steadfast.
i offer my emotions that range from anger to love.
but it seems you have a problem with all of the above.

i have no issue with any of it at all.
but i can see and feel the lies of the flies.
thats Beelzebub call
no one wants to want to ask a question or two.
but are willing to give jury service without my consent to you.

very interesting from my perspective,but not surprising.as this has happened all my life.
whilste you consider and whisper without questions i will keep on searching.
through life experience i choose my friends very very carefully.
and they are few!

now then?

with all jokes aside, I will speak clearly to you. when you first came into the tent we were bludgeoned with your vast number of questions, and beaten with your agressive attitude, and we stood and smiled and answered what we could and calmly waited for you to settle down, and you did. after that initial adjustment period you have proven yourself over and over to be just as valuable a member of this place as any of us, and in the wake of this I for one feel entitled to give you a little poke, make a little joke, but it appears I have poked you in a tender spot of self doubt. you don't need my approval, but you have it just the same. suck it up ronin, and see that you are respected and valued around here, and also please accept the fact that if I bother making a joke at your expense I only do so because I have genuinely come to like you and enjoy your participation. forgive me if it was taken amiss, but do not for an instant believe we are whispering disrespect to you, that would be an unfortunate lie to believe, indeed.

mind you, I don't get around the forum much, I mostly inhabit these few threads, and I speak only for myself, but I have heard none of this backchatter of which you speak. You are off base with this reply to me, please reexamine your response. I mean you no ill, if I did it would not arrive couched with humor, believe me.

KosmicKat

2nd July 2014, 12:45

Meditation. That is the key, is it? sigh

If you find meditation so daunting, perhaps you are using the wrong form of meditation. There are many forms. There is one that is right for you. Not necessarily codified by any "guru".

What I treasure the most are those moments when I can communicate with something beyond myself. And communication itself surpasses words. For me, it is not something I can "make" happen, all I can do is to listen for the hint of a door opening or a silent whisper nearby.

Catsquotl

2nd July 2014, 14:22

I really am struggling with how to proceed. I am obviously not done getting my ego and my mind under my control. Obviously.

So who is home to get that ego and mind under control? Is there anything to control? is there a controller?

If meditation is the answer

Meditation isn't an answer. Just a mirror. Really its just as helpful as the mirror in the bathroom. Ask it a question. All you get is a funny looking person looking back at you.
My reluctance to meditate comes from the idea I have to get something when on the cusion. When I know that when I sit there is just that. no katharthic insights usualy. just sitting and breathing and thinking and worriying and joy and.........
just like life.. No more No less. does that make me feel better ?
Not especially.
I'd like to think it makes me a bit more equinimitous or indifferent however you want to phrase that.

So...why can I not step into My place...and stay there?

There is no place that is your's. Its all places. There is no you so there's no ONE to step into his place

Meditation. That is the key, is it? sigh
I am unsure... Meditation is a tool. not a key to unlock secrets.. Just a tool to see what's there.

IMO of course.

With Love
Eelco

PurpleLama

2nd July 2014, 14:37

I was asked, how do I look at my son and remember that this is all made up.

I don't. I look at myself and remember that.

PurpleLama

2nd July 2014, 14:45

As tools go, meditation is the gun to the head of the ego/mind. So, no wonder the personality will amass and array all of its forces against a person pursuing it. We beat it through patience and discipline, no magic pill to take, you beat it first then you get the magic pill. No shortcuts except for inner work, which is actually one huge shortcut right there.

With detachment one does not loose the object of attachment, rather one gains the ability to respond to the object as necessary in a wise and genuine way, rather than reacting through mental and emotional habitual patterns. Without self examination, one continues to allow these patterns to hold sway in our consciousness and we are guaranteed nothing but more of the same, the overcoming or avoidance of which is what drew us into this needed self discipline in the first place.

1inMany

2nd July 2014, 14:57

I was asked, how do I look at my son and remember that this is all made up.

I don't. I look at myself and remember that.

I don't understand. :/

1inMany

2nd July 2014, 15:12

Well, y'all, it is like this with meditation. I had never heard of meditation, all my life, until about four years ago. And because all the meds I was taking for depression and anxiety wouldn't fully do what I wanted, I looked into it. I found as many ways to meditate as the day is long. But longing for an inner peace, decided to step into a very foreign area and give it a try. Even though I felt it the weirdest thing ever.

Every single time I tried, and I did this every day for a period of months, I fell asleep. I tried all kinds, everything I could find on youtube. I did meditation for relaxation, which apparently worked haha. I did some type of binaural beat thing, finding chakras. Now, that one was cool because I was amazed that I had swirling balls of color in my body somewhere. Found that I could sling the mud off of them by spinning them really fast, and that they would light up like neon signs. I did learn a lot. But in the end, gave up. Because everything put me to sleep.

I met PurpleLama, and he started me to doing this exercise. Now, yes it is meditation, but I would personally use a different word for it, had I one. Precisely because there are as many types of meditation as there are people. That's my opinion, any way.

What I was able to accomplish with some discipline, was to get past the point that I sat and thought and remembered and had great ideas and worried, etc., etc., etc. And I watched every thought, where it came from and where it went. And eventually, I found this very cool experience. Inside. Way inside. Far inside. Where there was an existence, pure existence. And peace. After a time, I focused on this so intently that I seemed to make the existence loud enough that the mind quieted in comparison. Until there were no thoughts. No memories. No snapshots. Just...everything and nothing.

Now. See, what happens when I am in this space I cannot explain. My consciousness expands? Maybe that would be how I would describe it? And things began to happen, to me. From within. Also from without, but only through this space. And I began to feel differently, think differently, and really Be differently. Handle day to day life in a way I could not have imagined. I felt like me, from ten years ago, but not anything like me at the same time.

So I should have said, before, that meditation is *my* key. And with all that I have experienced while doing this exercise daily, with discipline, I cannot understand the resistance. That's what I mean. I *know* it is good for me. I *know* I will have greater understanding of things I will not be able to explain. I *know* that as I get closer to the All, I will release old programs and old baggage as I step into Who I Am more fully. So it does perplex me, that when morning comes, and the time that I used to run, not walk, to my spot...I just don't want to. And I do want to know how to live congruently with who I am and why I am here in the first place. I want to do what I came to do. The way to get closer, for me, is this meditation.

1inMany

2nd July 2014, 15:24

Wait a second. How is inner work a shortcut? What is the long way 'round, then?

modwiz

2nd July 2014, 15:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2jRODCXRqE#t=140

Seikou-Kishi

2nd July 2014, 15:30

Wait a second. How is inner work a shortcut? What is the long way 'round, then?

Trial and error/fumbling around in the dark :-)

1inMany

2nd July 2014, 15:33

Trial and error/fumbling around in the dark :-)

Doesn't sound too much different :/

1inMany

2nd July 2014, 15:42

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2jRODCXRqE#t=140

Holy. ****. No words. Thank you.

PurpleLama

2nd July 2014, 15:43

For me, and the intent for you starting the practice, was not meditation as an end in itself, not of any of the possible benefits of the practice itself.

Meditation is the only way, the only way, a person can gain coherence. Coherence is that which underlies magical power and ability. Some of us naturally have some degree of coherence, by the way we arrived into this reality, some appear to have very little to the point of undetectability. This matters not one whit, anyone who is willing to discipline themselves may ultimately exceed the most wild natural talent, time and patience and discipline and it is there.

Anybody can pick up a wand, can put together the elements for a spell, but to have a powerful and organized energy field as the impetus behind it is irreplaceable, this is the coherence of which I speak. You say you want to change the world, you say you want to help people, then pick up the tool and use it, sharpen your spirit against the stone of your psyche. Nevermind the discomfort that it brings, what relentless self examination shows. At any point where the spell did not work, there was something hidden in you that worked against what your conscious intent sought to accomplish, be glad that the opposite of the intent did not come to be instead, for such is the power of what lies in the depths when it acts unattended.

The inner work is necessary to get there, and it is equally necessary to maintain the state. One who will abandon the practice, and pick it up again once the pressure has been sufficiently built, that one is playing a very dangerous game indeed. With the steps taken in acquiring coherence, such applies equally to the still unexamined parts and pieces lurking in the depths. I have been playing this game with myself for a while now, but prior to that I worked for years in the daily practice, missing maybe two or three days out of a month. I can see my psyche torn to shreds without losing my sh!t, and calmly put it back together again. That is not something I could have done ten years ago, then it would have been pure trauma.

So, best advice, pick up the practice and don't put it down again. Expect the reality and the mind to rear their ugly heads and do their very best to keep you from it, and steel yourself in advance. Noone can light the fire under your ass but you.

:wiz:

PurpleLama

2nd July 2014, 15:45

Wait a second. How is inner work a shortcut? What is the long way 'round, then?

Countless lifetimes adrift on the sea of being, a boat without a sail nor an oar.

ronin

2nd July 2014, 16:10

with all jokes aside, I will speak clearly to you. when you first came into the tent we were bludgeoned with your vast number of questions, and beaten with your agressive attitude, and we stood and smiled and answered what we could and calmly waited for you to settle down, and you did. after that initial adjustment period you have proven yourself over and over to be just as valuable a member of this place as any of us, and in the wake of this I for one feel entitled to give you a little poke, make a little joke, but it appears I have poked you in a tender spot of self doubt. you don't need my approval, but you have it just the same. suck it up ronin, and see that you are respected and valued around here, and also please accept the fact that if I bother making a joke at your expense I only do so because I have genuinely come to like you and enjoy your participation. forgive me if it was taken amiss, but do not for an instant believe we are whispering disrespect to you, that would be an unfortunate lie to believe, indeed.

mind you, I don't get around the forum much, I mostly inhabit these few threads, and I speak only for myself, but I have heard none of this backchatter of which you speak. You are off base with this reply to me, please reexamine your response. I mean you no ill, if I did it would not arrive couched with humor, believe me.

thank you for your kind sincere trueful words Purplelama.really appreciated.
apology accepted.:D

PurpleLama

2nd July 2014, 16:28

I was asked, how do I look at my son and remember that this is all made up.

I don't. I look at myself and remember that.

I don't understand. :/

It all starts with me, inside. Any understanding I get about anything at all, the referent is strictly internal. Understanding my own personality to be a fake, a construct, a made up thing existing as a transitional element between the animal kingdom and higher spiritual being, I see it as a tool, a convenience for relating to this physical/mental/emotional world. Where spirit comes in is straight out of mystery, something never to be explained or even approximated. That is the truth of me, what I cannot fail to apply to you or any of my friends, family, acquaintances, etc. That's why, months ago, I tried to drive home the point, it is all about you you you. You gotta do something about the you before you can accomplish anything else, you gotta get you out of the way of your higher purpose. No way around it, you are the mountain you must climb, you are the ocean you are lost in. When you pick up the work, and you get over that initial hump, you find yourself in that calm center place with the torrents of energy swirling around you like the hurricane around its eye, from there you must only wait, so get there and pray for patience. Nothing will happen for a while, but just being in that place is a healing thing, a balancing thing, and wonders you may behold, and abilities may manifest, but file it all away and keep sitting and sitting and sitting. Eventually you will stand right up and start going about the daily life and realize that at the same time you are still sitting even though you appear to be washing dishes or weeding the garden, then and only then can the discipline relax a little and the joy of pure being can pervade all you experience. When the mind is brought to heel, and the inner monsters have all been tamed, then the true power of true and rightful thought can impress itself upon the very physical reality, and the will can change the world.

ronin

2nd July 2014, 16:54

could this be a state of pure bliss and true being to self.
i remember once cooking soup a couple of year ago and was overcome by what i think of as bliss.a state of true happiness,a knowing everything was perfect in the hour or two it lasted.
strange it came on whilst cooking soup.felt it once or twice before shortlived.it is a very real experience and once you have felt it you kow that this is how life is meant to be lived and experienced.
i do beleive that some people have found the way to live with this bliss everyday.
but with all the negative energy of our world it does seem to drag us away from our true state.
some say live in the now of which seems a difficult concept.letting go another.

when we start down the rabbit holes,they go deeper and darker and will test your mentality.
just like Dante travelling through the nine regions ,twice this week i started to go downhill i think that i have gone insane.
then a thought came to me.it is our leaders who the one,s who are insane,they bomb,kill,give us flouride,gmo,vaccines,create viruses and want to control the population.
they do not want us to reach our true potentiol and that scares them.
so i reconsidered who was actually insane!

there is a light being shone and all we have to do is find it.

PurpleLama

2nd July 2014, 16:58

there is a light being shone and all we have to do is find it.

See my signature line. :winner:

modwiz

2nd July 2014, 17:07

How do you do that, modwiz?

I've been thinking about this. I can't decide which presence would be organic and which would not. On the one hand, I could see that who you are inside, You, would be constantly learning and growing as apparently there is always more. But on the other hand, would this not effect the you that is present in the physical world? So, then, would they not both be organic? I do not understand.

Organic refers to actually biological, human interaction in the flesh. My language usage is just that, mine.

With regards to "weight" on a foot, it is a metaphor. Leaning more 3-d or 4-d, as reference terms, as a situation requires. I cannot find better words for this concept.

1inMany

2nd July 2014, 17:25

Thank you both. I understand :)

Back to work it is then.

modwiz

2nd July 2014, 17:26

Below is the intro to this vid. This is the second communication from elites in just two weeks. These communications are subtle. This ambassador gives a good account of how things are unfolding, from their perspective.

Meet the Ambassador as he answers questions from Ron, including: What is the Dragon Family? What is the Dragon Family's vision for humanity at this time? What are the primary obstacles to making that vision a reality? Is the Dragon Family in charge of the collateral accounts we've heard about? How will resources be distributed to uplift humanity from lack consciousness? What is expected of us as humans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWxFbYj9hr4

Melidae

2nd July 2014, 18:31

Don't know why this conversation about meditation and 'self' brought to mind a time of change in my life that I had almost forgotten. Some of the memory is a bit foggy, but I feel led to share what I remember...fwiw.

Does anyone remember seeking the 'child within' that became popular in the late 70's/early 80's? Well, during a particularly rough patch in my life I sought that 'child within' alone...even tho' it was strongly recommended that at least one other person be there with you while you 'journeyed inside' to find the 'child within'.

Most of my life I had trouble just being myself (the why is a long story, not repeated here)...if I let go, the 'monster' inside me would be exposed and people would run as far away from me as possible. Yep, I thought there was a monster deep inside, and kept a tight hold on myself to keep it from popping out by accident.

Don't know how I found the courage to face that 'monster'...but during a quiet time alone, I felt a need to take that trip inside. Eyes closed...body relaxed...it took a while before an image of a long, steep stairway straight up (from inside my belly to my heart is the image that comes to mind now) became an apparent first step. And so I climbed and climbed. At the top was a huge, heavy wooden door with iron hinges. After taking a deep breath, and steeling myself in preparation of finding the 'monster', I pushed the door open.

All I could see before me was the most beautiful gardens with stone walkways and benches and swings that hung from huge trees. I walked over to one of the benches and sat down, still trying to take it all in, when the most precious little girl (about 4 years old) came to stand in front of me. All I could feel was pure, unconditional love and acceptance in those kind and gentle brown eyes, to the point of it being almost overwhelming. 'Finally, you came' I could almost hear her say. She was me when I was a child...the child I hid away to protect her from the world and keep her safe. I had forgotten and become someone I was not very proud of, and I began sobbing...I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry...I kept saying over and over again. But her demeanor never changed...no need to be forgiven for there was nothing to forgive...just joy I had found her. The 'monster' turned out to be young me before the hurts, before the need to set up my own 'rules' for surviving the world of doctors and hospitals and the isolation they said I must live within, the pitying looks and fear in people's eyes as they looked at one who was told she would not live to age 5, the joy of remission to be followed by sudden relapse over and over again, trying to fit in with my peers after my last relapse at 16 years old...and most of all, learning how cruel the 'world' can be to one who had no defense against it.

There was more...but needless to say, my life was totally changed after that experience. I have spent the time since then rooting out all the shadows that may have helped me survive that time in my life, but was now keeping me from my true self. As I do the work, 'I' come into clearer focus. 'Know thyself'...I no longer guess, assume or hope, but rather, I choose to get my hands dirty clearing out the trash that keeps me from my true self...whether it be through meditation or observation or whatever tool is at hand or comes to mind at the time. Now I 'know' I am precious and beautiful inside...and the clearer 'I' become, seeing the precious beauty hidden deep inside others becomes clearer to me as well.

ronin

2nd July 2014, 20:21

Organic refers to actually biological, human interaction in the flesh. My language usage is just that, mine.

With regards to "weight" on a foot, it is a metaphor. Leaning more 3-d or 4-d, as reference terms, as a situation requires. I cannot find better words for this concept.

organics as in organic portals?
as in mimicry?or mimic?
there is a difference between a soulless organic portal and a human that has a soul.
that difference is hard to detect as they mimic to perfection.
then there is the people who are not awake but are not mimics,they just ain,t woke up yet.
maybe barking up the wrong tree!

ronin

2nd July 2014, 20:26

Below is the intro to this vid. This is the second communication from elites in just two weeks. These communications are subtle. This ambassador gives a good account of how things are unfolding, from their perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWxFbYj9hr4

the Keasha foundation claimed they could clean up the pacific and help in the Fukishma incident.
this was reported early this year but as yet we have seen nothing.
the white dragon,s have we seen anything that prove they exist or is it just hearsay,not sure what to think here,but skepticism comes to mind.
if they are so influential and powerful why do they where a mask?
why do they want to remain anonymous?
they ask us to be our true selves, but remain hidden.

just some thoughts.

PurpleLama

2nd July 2014, 20:52

organics as in organic portals?
as in mimicry?or mimic?
there is a difference between a soulless organic portal and a human that has a soul.
that difference is hard to detect as they mimic to perfection.
then there is the people who are not awake but are not mimics,they just ain,t woke up yet.
maybe barking up the wrong tree!

Organic refers to actually biological, human interaction in the flesh.

He is not referring to organic portals, no.

norman

3rd July 2014, 00:26

Have the red pill people created their own matrix?

Discuss.................:hiding:

:ninja:

PurpleLama

3rd July 2014, 00:41

I am not sure, the pill I took was pretty freaking purple.

modwiz

3rd July 2014, 02:23

Have the red pill people created their own matrix?

Discuss.................:hiding:

:ninja:

Creating would be the word. A matrix is the scaffolding of a system. The word matrix itself indicates 'mother' and the generative processes. It is the blue pill Matrix, a paternal twisting of natural humanity, that I inveigh against. It is life negating, freedom negating and anti-human at its core. These negations of humanity's basic right are always to be seen in their laws and language.

Cearna

3rd July 2014, 03:38

Thank you so much Melidae, what a way to seek your own child self, I have seen so many people who felt they had no right to even exist, let alone how many people had been told in some way at about this age, some words or phrases, that then gave them the feeling of the monster inside, and for some reason those same people want to tell you over again. But..... once you have opened the door to that beauty inside, some how, you can just stand in the Light of your own self, what a feeling? To feel free, is what I call it, not to be yourself is a terrible sentence to either place on yourself or have others decide for you. Love you, and thanks for sharing such a momentous thing, I hope we can all draw on this

Melidae

3rd July 2014, 12:38

Oh Cearna, you are such a beautiful spirit...your light shines so brightly! Love you, too. :hugs:

Everyone has something, some event or trauma, that changes them. Like the old saying, "One 'oh sh1t' wipes out 100 'atta boys'"...the seemingly negative can wipe away so much of our image of ourselves and we are changed. In some ways, our self-image is more fragile than we think. I saw it happen to my Dad...he was older when his closest and dearest friend betrayed him. He went from an open, trusting, loving man to one who became angry and almost fearful of others. To prevent that from happening again, he closed himself up and kept people at arms length for years. And I saw it happen to my best friend when she found out her husband had been having an affair...and she became insecure and no longer believed in herself...or others.

So, what to do about it...choices, choices, choices. You can stay in that place of hurt...almost thriving on retelling the story over and over to anyone who will listen in an attempt to justify your reaction and remain a 'victim' of someone else's actions. Or you can take responsibility for your own action/reaction and seek a way through to seeing yourself as you truly are inside...not an easy path, but well worth the effort.

'Know thyself'...feel like I'm beating a dead horse by saying this over and over. But it's importance to your life cannot be stressed enough. Your 'world'...the 'world'...becomes a different place once your perspective changes...and deep, sustaining joy and magical moments follow naturally.

Our biggest battles are not with those around us or seemingly 'above' us...our biggest battles are fought within our own selves.

Cearna

4th July 2014, 04:36

Atta girl Melidae!!!!!!!!!!!! From my point of view, it all stems from this. What you think, feel, are is going to change what the world thinks, feels, are. When I wrote, channelling Ivan and a Spirit called Jericho about the energies of Africa, I realised that this is what it all turns out to be in the end. What you are reflects out into your environment, care for the environment and not care for what is inside and you will draw what is inside you out into the environment. Have enough people in anger, in a country, and they will draw anger to them in the form of a disaster, such as an earthquake, if the anger is so great.

Why do whales and dolphins beach themselves we ask? -- well one of the reasons besides the magnetic energies being completely out of whack, is that they feel a huge imbalance in energy at some point on the globe, and they race to the nearest point of the globe where they can try to correct the imbalance caused by the emotions being given out during the stress of people under duress. Instead of introducing calm into each of these people, they are allowed to keep putting distress out. Ever heard of those people who went to join hands somewhere and put out a specific intent to create a certain state of being, and the next thing we find out, that criminal activity was reduced by a huge margin, it is that easy to see how it works on a grand scale.

Within yourself, you have the means to produce that calm or that tempest, and nothing shows it clearer to you than when you show yourself what you really are. Tame the beast inside you and you will tame the beast out there in all of Earth, just the intent of one person can be the effect of being able to move mountains (and governments and cabal and religions and all the rest of the horrors, out there). It always starts with you and ends with you, we just need enough to see what you saw, or enough to hear what I used to hear when a Rebirth was being undergone. When you tell yourself your answers in whatever way works for you, it means so much more than seeing it on a video or going to some expensive course that involves someone telling you what you need to do.

Keep beating that dead horse, you never know each time you just might make that difference. One more person, if that person finds what you did then, we just might turn the corner into change, before we know what has hit us instead of having to fight against that seemingly brick wall - I'm a ram (Aries). I butted that brick wall over and over again, but eventually I began to think about digging a hole under it or trying to find the end of the wall and just walking around to the other side

Calz

4th July 2014, 06:59

I am not sure, the pill I took was pretty freaking purple.

So ... purplish wisest of purpledom ... please to tell those of us who missed the apparent 4th matrix iteration ...

what ... exactly ... has the purple pill brought forth to you???

(for any who have doubt I love this guy from the very depth of my heart ... which is why I can do this ...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJUn7g9LhA0

KosmicKat

4th July 2014, 20:24

Moonlight

4th July 2014, 22:34

Bringing Friday night at the movies into the tent. I enjoyed this film. It is a good reflexion into human nature all weaved up with harmonies from around the world. The short song around 40:00 really spoke to me. If you have the time and the will, it is a nice watch and listen.

:popc:

http://youtu.be/wA26XwqKA8Q

Through music and film, "1 Giant Leap" explores the universal complexities of human nature. Jamie Catto (Faithless co-founder) and Duncan Bridgeman set out on their journey recording musical jewels and words of wisdom with the cream of the world's thinkers, writers and entertainers along the way. The duo traveled to the farthest corners of the planet, to ensure immense cultural diversity in this time capsule of humanity at its most inspirational.

modwiz

6th July 2014, 07:51

This was an inspiring read.

The ‘Open Source’ Revolution is Coming and It Will Conquer the 1 Per Cent – Ex-CIA Spy

Last month, Steele presented a startling paper at the Libtech conference in New York, sponsored by the Internet Society and Reclaim. Drawing on principles set out in his latest book, The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth and Trust, he told the audience that all the major preconditions for revolution – set out in his 1976 graduate thesis – were now present in the United States and Britain.

Steele’s book is a must-read, a powerful yet still pragmatic roadmap to a new civilisational paradigm that simultaneously offers a trenchant, unrelenting critique of the prevailing global order. His interdisciplinary ‘whole systems’ approach dramatically connects up the increasing corruption, inefficiency and unaccountability of the intelligence system and its political and financial masters with escalating inequalities and environmental crises. But he also offers a comprehensive vision of hope that activist networks like Reclaim are implementing today.

“We are at the end of a five-thousand-year-plus historical process during which human society grew in scale while it abandoned the early indigenous wisdom councils and communal decision-making,” he writes in The Open Source Everything Manifesto. “Power was centralised in the hands of increasingly specialised ‘elites’ and ‘experts’ who not only failed to achieve all they promised but used secrecy and the control of information to deceive the public into allowing them to retain power over community resources that they ultimately looted.”

Today’s capitalism, he argues, is inherently predatory and destructive:

“Over the course of the last centuries, the commons was fenced, and everything from agriculture to water was commoditised without regard to the true cost in non-renewable resources. Human beings, who had spent centuries evolving away from slavery, were re-commoditised by the Industrial Era.”
http://goldenageofgaia.com/2014/06/22/the-open-source-revolution-is-coming-and-it-will-conquer-the-1-per-cent-ex-cia-spy/

Sooz

6th July 2014, 08:14

http://goldenageofgaia.com/2014/06/22/the-open-source-revolution-is-coming-and-it-will-conquer-the-1-per-cent-ex-cia-spy/[/QUOTE]

Interesting that I cannot open that link here in Oz.:scrhd:

markoid

7th July 2014, 00:19

Works for me Sooz... might have just been temporarily inaccessible.

PurpleLama

8th July 2014, 18:29

So ... purplish wisest of purpledom ... please to tell those of us who missed the apparent 4th matrix iteration ...

what ... exactly ... has the purple pill brought forth to you???

(for any who have doubt I love this guy from the very depth of my heart ... which is why I can do this ...)

The purple pill was first given to me in May of '08. It was a gift given to me in a dream, and the dream was recounted here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?24908-Dreams-of-avalon&p=269768&viewfull=1#post269768)

PurpleLama

8th July 2014, 20:38

I have often pointed out how the purple pill has DGAF inscribed on the side, don't give a....

It is not about being aloof or uncaring, it is what it takes to hear what people are thinking about you and *knowing* it is not the real you they are thinking about, it is what it takes to face the sickest evil and still having the strength to stand in your power, it is looking at reality, yourself included, and understanding it is all a fake, a fraud. The fantasies of Tolkien have as much reality as my butt in this chair and my fingers on this keyboard, the purple pill lets me know that in spite of this, it is all very much OK, nothing to worry about, I am a figment of my own imagining, and so are we all. Kill me and I won't die, because I know I never was alive, all I ever was is Mystery, and Mystery is all that ever was real to start with. If it can be known, if it can be touched, it will never always be, and it is just fine like that, the way it is. It is the ultimate All is Well.

Melidae

8th July 2014, 21:17

I am still trying to come to terms with two consecutive acts that were offered in a spirit of generosity but taken advantage of. How do I proceed from here? I cannot allow myself to withdraw my generosity but I certainly must proceed much more cautiously.

imo, no one can take advantage of you unless you allow it...they may try, but the word 'no' is always an option when others ask for more than you are willing to give. Setting boundaries is important to both you as well as to others. When boundaries are not clear, some people will always try to take advantage.

Don't let the response you received cause you to regret the gift...assuming it was given freely without expectation. One has nothing to do with the other....you give because that is what you do and who you are. Others may try to take advantage because that is what they do and who they are.

If it helps, you can always consider them as children who constantly test 'mom and/or dads' boundaries...they just haven't grown up yet. :)

Moonlight

12th July 2014, 01:33

Here is a great documentary : The Sacred Balance

Based on David Suzuki's best-selling book of the same name, and filmed on five continents, THE SACRED BALANCE celebrates a new scientific worldview, an inclusive vision of nature in which we human beings are intimately connected to all life processes on Earth.

Part 1 - Journey into New Worlds - Suzuki celebrates the birth of a new scientific worldview that is holistic rather reductionist.

http://vimeo.com/62601157

This part gave me a new understanding to the saying "you make my heart sing" (around 34:00)

Part 2 - The Matrix of Life - Suzuki travels the world exploring our intimate relationship with water and air.

http://vimeo.com/96874935

Here you will meet Gaia, the living being.

Part 3 - The Fire of Creation - Suzuki explores the latest scientific findings which amplify the age-old reverence for the sun.

http://vimeo.com/99440325

I have not watched this part yet, so it's a surprise.

In Joy !

1inMany

12th July 2014, 10:05

This past week or two has been difficult, slogging through is what it felt like. But things have happened. Things are happening. And this is a good thing, ultimately. Odd sleep patterns. Dreams, dreams and more dreams. Experiences. Mis-understandings shed, understandings gained. And a *ton* of confusion. Struggling to see my 3d persona clearly. Finding where I start, and where not-me ends, struggling to see my 3d persona clearly. And, yes, trying to light the fire under my own ass. Pushing myself to meditate, to find the space and sit in it.

I awoke this morning as the clock blinked from 3:33 to 3:34. I feel lighter having shed some extra weight, but I know the fight continues. However, I listened to a Kryon parable this morning that had a deeply profound effect. It never ceases to amaze me when things happen like this. Divinely orchestrated, synchronistic to such a degree that I can do nothing but sit and exxperience the moment of amazement. Seven minutes was the length of this parable, the parable of the tar pit. And a couple of things were explained that I guess I never understood before, or they hadn't hit home.

For one thing, he talked about a gift from God, which would be this new energy. He talked about accepting it, and the responsibility one accepts when taking this on. And using a tool to be able to fully take advantage of it. The tool, in my case, is the meditation. (Yes, I know, someone else in the tent has mentioned this haha.) While that was a light bulb moment, the bigger moment for me, this morning, was what he said about others noticing a change in someone who picks up the work. There are those who I will attract, magnet to magnet, as I grow and change. And there are those who will be angry that I have changed. Of course, he says (many people say this) that anyone repelled or angry is someone who I wouldn't want around me in the first place.

This brought to mind my angry daughter. I have puzzled over what I could have possibly said or done "to" her to cause her anger. But after listening this morning, I remember a conversation we had about a year ago. She expressed to me that she is very angry with me because I am not the same person who raised her, all her life. I was bewildered. Now, I get it. As for not wanting her around me...well that is a little complicated. Actually, I don't. I love her very much, but as long as she is spinning in this, I will keep my hand extended from way over here. I will help when asked, in any way I can. But this is not mine.

I understood, then. But now I get it. The difference between a year ago and now, which allows me to get it, is the new knowledge of how much bigger I am than this 3d person who sits typing this. Oh, I really cannot fathom *how* big, as there is no way one could. But this knowledge allows me to sit back and observe her self-destructive tendencies. Of course, yes, I want her to snap out of it. But as they say, it is not my circus, not my monkeys. If there is action I can take to help the situation, I am all over it. Otherwise, I will observe.

It's Okay.

Thank you for giving me a space where I can recount this, modwiz. Much obliged.

Catsquotl

29th July 2014, 07:07

Hiya wizards and assorted strange people,

After a little rest, a vacation in which i have created a pathfinder/D&D campaign to play with the family immersed in fantasy and ended it with a trip to fantasiafest which hosted the annual Dutch Steampunk convention I am flowing enough to peek a little more again into this 3d existence.

A world with all the horrors of an imaginairy fantasy based game, only for real it seems.
Holland has been a strange place with the crash of HM17 where we can on the one hand hear people screaming for Justice against those war criminals only to be very reserved when talking about Gaza...

Anyway holliday has put a few more pounds on me..(more to enjoy) So i'll slowly get back into the habbit of no drinking(alcohol), daily meditation. And comming to grips with the madness of it all.

WIth Love
Eelco

modwiz

30th July 2014, 00:14

Well, life is very good for me. It is peaceful and as full of meaning as can be, all things considered. Only speaking with those I hold dear, stuck in their own minds and emotions, that I experience any kind of distress personally. I look out at forum discussions and see little to join in with. It all looks like loops and tail chasing to me. I know it appears meaningful to others so, I opt out. I look forward to meeting some of the cyber tent dwellers, in person, later this Fall. Steering ones ship towards destinations of growth and love is where it is at for me. The adversaries, both inner and outer, are the same as they have always been. The solutions are the same unless inaction changes things considerably. It is easier to escape a fist that has not closed, while the fingers are still apart. The fist intends on closing and it will catch those who have sat still. It will then look for those who have escaped.

There is no greater adversary then our collective inertia. Re-iteration of things already said would be little more than vanity.

Blessings to all.

Calz

31st July 2014, 09:13

It all looks like loops and tail chasing to me.

http://www.centersinaianimalhospital.com/images/dog_chasing_tail.gif

PurpleLama

31st July 2014, 18:20

Symbols can affect you whether you know it or not, or know their meanings or not. With enough time and concentration and participants the "energy" or "signature" of a given symbol can be co-opted or changed to suit a different purpose. So we have symbols once good and pure inverted for evil purposes, and over time the archetypal energy behind the symbol, the logos of it or thought form, can be so sullied that the inversion is no longer even necessary to use it for the evil intent. Corruption abounds in this world of ours, and one must be stringently positive in their use of symbols in magic or else interference might occur within one's operation.

posted by TargeT at PA

so it seems, so it seems.

This is the part that I find interesting, that is, in a way, corroboration of the "source" theory. or at least DNA memory...

Regardless of the over all implications, they do seem to have an effect on us and it must be noted and looked for; movies and hollywood production are my favorite places to observe their use.

Regardless of the over all implications, they do seem to have an effect on us and it must be noted and looked for; movies and hollywood production are my favorite places to observe their use.

My favorite place to observe it is in the minds and speech of those around me (I work in a retail setting). Originally, all communication was of concept, not verbal, whole bodies(forms) of information shared all at once. A person was familiar with the whole thing all at once, but this eventually became corrupted into speech and symbols/words as the human psychic capacity was diminished (think Tower of Babel).

Corruption breeds corruption, and with the fall of our capacities came deceptions for the first time, only then was such becoming possible. The nefarious use of symbols can be readily observed within the language itself, like Chelley used to go on about with her parsing tirades, and within the form of any logo, within many artistic forms from visual to audible, indeed there is a movement of this underlying consciousness through all things man made.

It is within the forms of nature herself that what is right and true is preserved, hence the good feelings it brings to any person, and hence many who practice pagan arts drawing substantially upon the natural world for the sympathetic energies contained therein ready to be utilized by anyone who knows how, this is the safest and least corruptible use of what can be seen as having a symbolic nature.

For example, for myself I love to work with High John root, as it has along with its variety of properties a very specific Trickster energy that works very well, is very compatible with my own. Because there is a living energy behind the plant that I work with (think native american "medicine") I am unconcerned that another mage somewhere is using the same for evil, they might be but likewise the living energy behind the plant is self correcting and will not allow itself to be altered in a way it does not approve of, it really is intelligent and active in such a way.

Whereas something more abstract, like the pentagram for example, requires a user to be much more focused, as the symbol has much corrupted energy attached to it, so although I use such as well, I also do so much more mindfully than I might use a particular gift of the living sphere.

Its the memory that makes the DNA, not the other way around. Of course, such ideas give the scientifically minded amongst us (in general, not the forum) such a tizzy.

A little cross posting of some conversation, first in reply to Pris, then to target, on a Weird Al thread of all places. Appropriate content for the Tent.

modwiz

7th August 2014, 03:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8SjOlz5qPw&list=UUoJE3X0XlU25wc-GWXsdpEA

Ron Van Dyke. A nice gentleman who posts once a day. I enjoy this man and his spirit. He is also the fellow who holds almost weekly video phone calls with the "ambassador" of a dragon family with nifty ideas for a new future. I enjoy the talks enough to listen to them. Others might be put off by the whole dragon business thing. I watch and observe.

The above video is nothing special, just a good coherent talk about the court system and its incompatibility with humanity. The contrived vs. the real. The vid can provide the you tube channel he is on if one open the vid in a separate window by clicking on the youtube button, if one has an interest.:D

@PL. I am liking the new avatar.

1inMany

13th August 2014, 23:01

I have been sitting. And sitting. And sitting. And traveling, my car is not the place of silence where epiphanies occur when I have passengers unfortunately. Sure enough, I have experienced some of this and that. And the other, truth be told.

Then I picked up the book, as instructed, and read it cover to cover. That was an exercise in discipline, I must say. But I did it.

I am struck with where I am in the process. There is no explanation for this, other than picking up where I left off. I have worked this over and over, and that is the only explanation. Logic based on one lifetime, and this one having been what it has been, is not sufficient.

I will sit some more. Over here in this safe corner, pondering. I will try not to think, but there is some other process at work when I ponder, so I shall allow this. Not that I can disallow thinking altogether, I'm still working on that one. But letting all this sink in.

Melidae

14th August 2014, 02:09

*Mel quietly tip-toes into the tent so as not to disturb 1inmany and finds a nice, cozy corner to sit cross-legged on the floor and do some pondering of her own*

Puzzling. Just plain puzzling...some of the things that rise, unbidden, from the depths where forgotten memories live and present themselves to be processed. It is not the memory that is puzzling...it is what the memory has revealed (like a photograph...a moment captured in time), and the question that should have been asked so very many, many years ago when it might possibly have received an answer...but was not asked nor answered...that leaves me to ponder. Hidden from me for so long while being so obvious I can't believe I could miss it, and yet confronting me and who I know myself to be in my 'now'... No idle question is this...no mere curiosity...but one that must be answered. But how...

Deep cleaning is being done...but is it trash or treasure?

Hmmm...

modwiz

14th August 2014, 04:12

Deep cleaning is being done...but is it trash or treasure?

Hmmm...

Recycling?:hmm:

For me, treasure is light and life-energizing and trash is a burden with no life affirming utility. The 'treasure' of trash, is seeing what was once a part of us and how tenacious the roots are/were.

A thought provoking question for me so I thought to share.:D

modwiz

14th August 2014, 04:14

Then I picked up the book,

What book? I'm out of the loop.:fpalm:

Melidae

14th August 2014, 12:29

Recycling?:hmm:

For me, treasure is light and life-energizing and trash is a burden with no life affirming utility. The 'treasure' of trash, is seeing what was once a part of us and how tenacious the roots are/were.

A thought provoking question for me so I thought to share.:D

Thought provoking response...

If the "'treasure' of trash is seeing what was once a part of us", I'm stuck at the present moment and cannot clearly see that part of myself...just little 'glimpses'. There is a 'wall' I cannot see beyond...and I know the answer is just behind that wall. Can't get over it...can't get under it...can't even go around it. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/EMOASletmeoutHL.gif

In frustration, I let it go...believing if it is that important, it will be shown to me. Then comes the synchronicities that brings it to the fore once again. I keep thinking I've left a treasure behind...why else would it keep coming up? But until the fog clears, I can't know for sure.

Recycling? Possibly.

PurpleLama

14th August 2014, 15:59

What book? I'm out of the loop.:fpalm:

It was Book 4. (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CC0QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.vsociety.net%2Fdata%2Flibra ry%2FSection%25201%2520(A%2CG%2CM%2CS%2CZ)%2FCrowl ey%2C%2520Alester%2FUnknown%2520Album%2FBook%2520F our%2520(Liber%2520ABA).pdf&ei=_dvsU_TTJpa1yATW-oLIBQ&usg=AFQjCNE0-elt6ryde2xL6cK3cNkvr53bRA&bvm=bv.72938740,d.aWw&cad=rja)

PurpleLama

14th August 2014, 16:02

1inMany

14th August 2014, 23:43

It is a heavy thing, being led by instruction but knowing not the destination, and suddenly espying the destination and seeing that one is already most of the way there.

****

This post got me a text that said, "Most of the way there, my ass."

*That* text might have had something to do with my new assignment, too...which took up, what, SEVEN texts? I received a *seven* text assignment. Does that sound "most of the way there"? Crap.

:b

1inMany

15th August 2014, 00:05

It was Book 4. (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CC0QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.vsociety.net%2Fdata%2Flibra ry%2FSection%25201%2520(A%2CG%2CM%2CS%2CZ)%2FCrowl ey%2C%2520Alester%2FUnknown%2520Album%2FBook%2520F our%2520(Liber%2520ABA).pdf&ei=_dvsU_TTJpa1yATW-oLIBQ&usg=AFQjCNE0-elt6ryde2xL6cK3cNkvr53bRA&bvm=bv.72938740,d.aWw&cad=rja)

Wait just a second. I wasn't supposed to read all *that*...only parts 1 & 2.

KosmicKat

15th August 2014, 11:37

I keep thinking I've left a treasure behind...why else would it keep coming up? But until the fog clears, I can't know for sure.

I used to get something similar for a long time. Until I realized I always got the feeling after I had been speaking with a friend and had to focus my attention elsewhere.

Sooz

15th August 2014, 11:46

I used to get something similar for a long time. Until I realized I always got the feeling after I had been speaking with a friend and had to focus my attention elsewhere.

This reminds me of the conversation I had with the family who lost a close family member in the MH 170 Crash. There comes a time when one has to focus thoughts on something else, otherwise it will send you mad. Life has to go on. For the sake of every other family member and for yourself.

Although I've not had anyone who has died in a tragedy, there are people lost and you really don't know why. The truth comes out in the wash somewhere along in the cycle, along with all the mis-truths.

PurpleLama

15th August 2014, 14:42

*That* text might have had something to do with my new assignment, too...which took up, what, SEVEN texts? I received a *seven* text assignment. Does that sound "most of the way there"? Crap.

:b

Seven texts of explanation of what can be summed up in two words: Make notes. Hahahaha

One might say seven texts of anticipating questions, too. :onthequite:

PurpleLama

15th August 2014, 14:46

Wait just a second. I wasn't supposed to read all *that*...only parts 1 & 2.

Part three is that other book, you will want to order that one soon so you can work with the hard copy instead. It is my recommendation that you read the Ramayana first, though, before going on to Part III:Magic Theory and Practice. Think of it as taking a break. :congratulations:

PurpleLama

15th August 2014, 14:47

I am still waiting for donk to come along and call me out for recommending Crowley books to someone, when in the past I have warned others against them.

donk

15th August 2014, 18:01

I am still waiting for donk to come along and call me out for recommending Crowley books to someone, when in the past I have warned others against them.

Heh...hadn't noticed until just now. Synchronicity has me bopping in only occasionally...apparently the "right" times. I never would have looked at that link, the vagueness of it had me assuming whatever "book 4" was damned interesting...and I haven't actually gotten through a whole book in ages--as you know, I am knee-deep in one of your favorites, and am determined to get through without getting totally distracted. Figured clicking on your link would have me starting another a book I'd forget about in a week.

666 is never out eyeshot to me anymore, at lunch I found myself reading about one of my favorite black magic characters: ol' LRon, and his plagurizing of the beastly one...something's try to tell me something. Sorry I'm late to the party, sure all this is completely unrelated, but when the purple one envokes you, there's probably a reason

So how's about a tangentially related anecdote? I asked a "sensitive" (with christian leanings) friend if she thought 666 popping up all the time meant anything to her. She is, after all, the one who told mentioned she “saw” 666 appear in her awareness before I called. A greasy critter “warned” her to not get involved, minutes before her phone rang with my first attempt to contact her in probably a decade.

She is my best friend growing up’s sister (I’ve been his friend for 27 years, I am almost 36), making her a little sister, of sorts. From our experiences together as kids, I knew she was more sensitive than most. I was having paranormal issues at home, this was when I first got into PA…I was reading and posting a lot on the Horus-Ra thread—trying to get answers. She helped a lot then…but lately I been trying to determine if she accidentally imprinted that number into my mind somehow, whether whatever attachment I have to it now started then.

I have felt that around that point I was immersed in something that I may have some latent powers to be able to negotiate somehow. Though I still haven’t gotten around to opening up to them, still can’t even really make that much sense of the unseen world…which leads me to my intense fascination with those that talk about how they can. But I have never read a whole chapter of a Crowley book, haven’t really delved too much into too much “ancient wisdom”…without fully understanding the purpose of the writer transmitting the information—I can only assume the author is telling me something (s)he wants me to believe. Though I ramble on, about what I? I have no idea…

…oh yeah, 666 lighting up before her did: That was mid-2012. I asked her recently if she remembered that, hoping to get insight…alas, she did not—not that specifically, anyway—was not important or extraordinary to her. But she say this, when I asked her if it meant anything to her that the number was constantly popping up, seemingly to grab my attention:

Hmmm…yeah I do have an idea what’s going on. It seems as though it is your own manifestation and old attachments (clinging to you) to you back/regress and have anger/issues.

The best thing is to be neutral about it and simply ignore the numbers. Don’t give it attention, and everything should be fine…

…I dunno, I was pretty much neutral about, well I found it interesting and beyond coincidence, and even imagined it could be a positive/useful thing…never really had any fear of it (or anything associated)…but the ignoring part, I don’t think that is good advice. It’s too frequent and in my face to not have some meaning, and I am often driven by searching for purpose.

Though I do trust Reilly, and heed any insight of his I come across, which is part of the reason I started asking people on the opinion it. I would say that there are more dimensions to 666 than numerological, it also seems to be a symbol, at least within our culture. And that’s something I have put off studying too, I know nothing of the power symbols, other than Reilly believes there’s power in them even when they are used or appear “not as intended”…if I’m saying that correctly? But that’s enough to pique my interest. I dunno, lunch is over, and I’m done vomiting my nonsense onto the fringe of tent…hope you all are well

ronin

15th August 2014, 18:02

ronin

15th August 2014, 18:08

Heh...hadn't noticed until just now. Synchronicity has me bopping in only occasionally...apparently the "right" times. I never would have looked at that link, the vagueness of it had me assuming whatever "book 4" was damned interesting...and I haven't actually gotten through a whole book in ages--as you know, I am knee-deep in one of your favorites, and am determined to get through without getting totally distracted. Figured clicking on your link would have me starting another a book I'd forget about in a week.

666 is never out eyeshot to me anymore, at lunch I found myself reading about one of my favorite black magic characters: ol' LRon, and his plagurizing of the beastly one...something's try to tell me something. Sorry I'm late to the party, sure all this is completely unrelated, but when the purple one envokes you, there's probably a reason

So how's about a tangentially related anecdote? I asked a "sensitive" (with christian leanings) friend if she thought 666 popping up all the time meant anything to her. She is, after all, the one who told mentioned she “saw” 666 appear in her awareness before I called. A greasy critter “warned” her to not get involved, minutes before her phone rang with my first attempt to contact her in probably a decade.

She is my best friend growing up’s sister (I’ve been his friend for 27 years, I am almost 36), making her a little sister, of sorts. From our experiences together as kids, I knew she was more sensitive than most. I was having paranormal issues at home, this was when I first got into PA…I was reading and posting a lot on the Horus-Ra thread—trying to get answers. She helped a lot then…but lately I been trying to determine if she accidentally imprinted that number into my mind somehow, whether whatever attachment I have to it now started then.

I have felt that around that point I was immersed in something that I may have some latent powers to be able to negotiate somehow. Though I still haven’t gotten around to opening up to them, still can’t even really make that much sense of the unseen world…which leads me to my intense fascination with those that talk about how they can. But I have never read a whole chapter of a Crowley book, haven’t really delved too much into too much “ancient wisdom”…without fully understanding the purpose of the writer transmitting the information—I can only assume the author is telling me something (s)he wants me to believe. Though I ramble on, about what I? I have no idea…

…oh yeah, 666 lighting up before her did: That was mid-2012. I asked her recently if she remembered that, hoping to get insight…alas, she did not—not that specifically, anyway—was not important or extraordinary to her. But she say this, when I asked her if it meant anything to her that the number was constantly popping up, seemingly to grab my attention:

Hmmm…yeah I do have an idea what’s going on. It seems as though it is your own manifestation and old attachments (clinging to you) to you back/regress and have anger/issues.

The best thing is to be neutral about it and simply ignore the numbers. Don’t give it attention, and everything should be fine…

…I dunno, I was pretty much neutral about, well I found it interesting and beyond coincidence, and even imagined it could be a positive/useful thing…never really had any fear of it (or anything associated)…but the ignoring part, I don’t think that is good advice. It’s too frequent and in my face to not have some meaning, and I am often driven by searching for purpose.

Though I do trust Reilly, and heed any insight of his I come across, which is part of the reason I started asking people on the opinion it. I would say that there are more dimensions to 666 than numerological, it also seems to be a symbol, at least within our culture. And that’s something I have put off studying too, I know nothing of the power symbols, other than Reilly believes there’s power in them even when they are used or appear “not as intended”…if I’m saying that correctly? But that’s enough to pique my interest. I dunno, lunch is over, and I’m done vomiting my nonsense onto the fringe of tent…hope you all are well

donk up until last year i and a friend use to see 666 everywhere,whether it be on a counter,a computer ,a car reg or a receipt it was everywhere.
especially at work.we would laugh and say damn it got us again.
for me it has settled down now,i use to fear it then laughed at it and said bring it on.
just my humor.never really understood why we where seeing it all the time though?
any ideas?

donk

15th August 2014, 19:12

i find it ironic that we use the lesson of the allegory of the cave to see what others do not.
then when we are out of the cave we seek within(going back into a cave) or thirty days of isolation to find out who we are ?:p
just a thought.

To me, the cave is about how difficult it is to see things as they truly are, how easy it is to believe we “know” anything about something just from our limited perspective. I don’t think it can be used the way you are using it, the cave isn’t an allegory for “going within”, the cave itself the media/matrix/space which allows for the illusion.

Going within is when you realize that things aren’t what they seemed to you, so you are returning to the cave, armed with plenty of torches and new, accurate knowledge, to try to understand what it really was that’s in there, and perhaps more importantly, why you thought it was something else in the first place…

donk

15th August 2014, 19:22

donk up until last year i and a friend use to see 666 everywhere,whether it be on a counter,a computer ,a car reg or a receipt it was everywhere.
especially at work.we would laugh and say damn it got us again.
for me it has settled down now,i use to fear it then laughed at it and said bring it on.
just my humor.never really understood why we where seeing it all the time though?
any ideas?

My immediate reaction is that it is the age old “association” thing…like where you buy a new blue Subaru Wagon and start seeing blue sube’s everywhere…there were always a ton around, it was just brought to your awareness or you gained an attachment to it so that now you notice it more.

…but I’m with you…I wonder? It seems a little too common to be dismissed as “coincidence”. It reminds me of the quote I pulled from the aforementioned-Reilly-fave:

Random chance was not a sufficient explanation of the Universe-in fact,
random chance was not sufficient to explain random chance; the pot could not hold itself.
-Robert Heinlein “Stranger in a Strange Land”

PurpleLama

15th August 2014, 20:07

http://wondermark.com/c/2009-10-30-566nouns.gif

I think my favorite is, an itself of Yahwehs, although a yard sale of androids it a tough contender.

donk

15th August 2014, 22:45

I like a fondle of unicorns

I always got confused: couldn't remember if a group of psychopaths was called a congress or
Senate or court...sling is pretty good though

Seikou-Kishi

16th August 2014, 01:45

I like a murder of crows and an unkindness of ravens. Poor, maligned birds XD. I guess they're really a supremacy of ravens though lol

Calz

16th August 2014, 06:42

dammit ... no sooner than I had given up hope you peeps are making things worth sticking around for again ...

... any idea how hard all these passwords are to remember for an old fart like me???

http://www.tedhickman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/2011-old-fart.gif

1inMany

16th August 2014, 12:25

I had skimmed over the statements made by crowley that he is the Beast. They didn't give me the heebie jeebies, but I was curious. I tried not to ask about that. Then here came donk, haha. Which brought out my curiosity again. Both about the significance of 666 and crowley's identification with it.

Still trying not to ask questions, I went poking around the internet. It has been suggested he called himself the Beast to bait Christians. And since his mother fancied that nickname for him when he was young, that does make sense.

Somehow, though, I don't think that's the whole reason.

donk

16th August 2014, 14:19

Is it poor taste to be tickled by a tizzy of fairies? I can't help but chuckle.

Conversely, I don't think I'd wanna run into a bedevilment of bunyips, no matter how beastly I'm feeling...

I had to look it up...pretty gnarly:

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140101222550/cryptidz/images/8/8d/Bunyip---.jpg

donk

20th August 2014, 16:53

I posted this at the other place, but thought it warranted the attention of our resident wizards...forgive me if this has been thoroughly discussed--I haven't spent as much time here as I'd have liked as it grew, if it has just point me to that part of the tent:

I clipped these passages from one of the most profound exchanges I have come across lately, from Heinlein’s “Stranger in a Strange Land”, where the Mike—the “Man from Mars”--learns how to laugh, and why humans do it:

“….I've found out why people laugh. They laugh because it hurts so much . . . because it's the only thing that'll make it stop hurting."

…

“That's why I had to laugh. I looked at a cageful of monkeys and suddenly I saw all the mean and cruel and utterly unexplainable things I've seen and heard and read about in the time I've been with my own people~and suddenly it hurt so much I found myself laughing."

"But- Mike dear, laughing is something you do when something is nice - . . not when it's
horrid."

"Is it?...”

In my ongoing quest for ever more mindfulness, understanding why I do whatever it is I do is the most important thing to me, and I found this insight so emotionally overwhelming to me I fought back tears and the urge to yelp outloud when reading it…rather than weeping or shouting I choose to share it with you.

Does this resonate with you? What is laughter? Why do you laugh?

BabaRa

20th August 2014, 17:19

[QUOTE=What is laughter? Why do you laugh?[/QUOTE]

When one laughs (the belly laugh, not the snicker) one massages the 3rd chakra (solar plexus) which then helps to cleanse and release one's blocked emotions. Watch how your tummy moves up and down when you laugh. . . . then laugh again watching yourself watch your tummy.:hilarious:

Good Job, you have just helped release your blocked emotions.

1inMany

20th August 2014, 22:11

That's really something, donk. Seems like there have been times when laughter does stop all the pain. But, I don't think I've ever laughed *because* there is so much pain. Not that it isn't possible, just that I haven't had that experience.

ronin

20th August 2014, 22:47

PurpleLama

20th August 2014, 23:01

I posted this at the other place, but thought it warranted the attention of our resident wizards...forgive me if this has been thoroughly discussed--I haven't spent as much time here as I'd have liked as it grew, if it has just point me to that part of the tent:

I clipped these passages from one of the most profound exchanges I have come across lately, from Heinlein�s �Stranger in a Strange Land�, where the Mike�the �Man from Mars�--learns how to laugh, and why humans do it:

In my ongoing quest for ever more mindfulness, understanding why I do whatever it is I do is the most important thing to me, and I found this insight so emotionally overwhelming to me I fought back tears and the urge to yelp outloud when reading it�rather than weeping or shouting I choose to share it with you.

Does this resonate with you? What is laughter? Why do you laugh?

This is not the only place (the book you are quoting) where I have seen the concept of laughing because it hurts. Unfortunately, your epiphany, brought about from this bit of text, will fall mostly on deaf ears. We know how trendy it is to say one examines self, while so few will do the hard work of actual, ruthless self examination.

Yes, laughter feels good, but how often is it someone's pain being laughed at, how hard is it to be the butt of a joke? If someone slips and falls in a comical manner, can you even help yourself but to laugh? Yes, it is funny, but still, someone got hurt....

Not as easy as one might think, upon cursory examination, to get to the real depth of what is being pointed at, here.

PurpleLama

20th August 2014, 23:01

I started to post that in that "other place", but caught myself....

ronin

20th August 2014, 23:27

one day we will all laugh.
even at the miseries that we thought engulfed us.
a lifetime is but a blink of a eye,when we realize we are eternal,we are creators,we will laugh at the the things that have affected us.
this is our learning process and without the ups and downs that we experience how are we suppose to learn?

when we are spirit or one i bet you say sh it i let that emotion control my life and i never overcame it in the physical!
well it does happen and laughter is better than sadness unless they are tears of joy.

who am i.
comes to mind.

1inMany

21st August 2014, 15:31

letting go and becoming yourself is hard.:nails:

While I do not disagree with this statement, ronin, I don't follow the connection to why I laugh.

Catsquotl

21st August 2014, 16:51

One man's laughter..

MUS9C2fz40w

I haven't listened to this album for years...
This talk about laugter though...

WIth Love
Eelco

Catsquotl

21st August 2014, 17:02

Can't help but post this one as well. This may well be the song that got me into all this conspiracy stuff.
1982 it was.....

55c7rFT2nVs

with love
eelco

ronin

21st August 2014, 22:48

While I do not disagree with this statement, ronin, I don't follow the connection to why I laugh.

we tend to get distracted by all sorts to get by in life.
we do not concentrate on ourselves but buy into peer pressure of everything that is going on in your immediate environment and the world.
we have forgotten what we really are.our purpose and meaning.
we can get so involved with bulls hit it can make us toxic.
your experience may have been negative to make you this way.bitter,untrusting and sad.

there is a saying about peeling away the layers of who you are to find your true self.
for me i think oh sh it what a dick i have been throughout my life.
i,m nowhere near there yet but i recoqnise that we are caught in a system and although we have to play along i also laugh at it to.

Playdo

22nd August 2014, 01:19

My single most vivd and happiest moment of being in a church (don't tell my wife it wasn't the wedding, ha!), it being Southern Baptist, was when my mother and I innocently cracked up about something banal. I don't even remember exactly what happened, somebody farted, maybe, can't remember. But I do remember the thrill of laughing so uncontrollably with my mother in a place where you're not supposed to laugh. The thrill of being out of line and the utmost hilarity of the moment made us laugh even harder to the point where we couldn't stop, like it was contagious between us at that point. We'd only have to glance at each other, after a brief respite of belabored self-control, and we'd lose it again. People started staring at us and giving reproachful looks. My father scolded us and made us leave, solemn and reverent. We did, gladly. Out of the sanctuary we let it out and had the greatest time and skipped the rest of the service. The single most memorable event that I had in that church. Ha! Makes me want to laugh now......:hilarious:

Calz

22nd August 2014, 06:51

Laughing is good ... so add a spinkle of giggle while the mood is ripe ...

rPGZHQHsjD0

The same government that has no problem legalizing all kinds of chemicals that wreak havoc on your entire body...really cares about your teeth. A lot. Enough to add chemical byproducts from fertilizer manufacturing to your water for you whether you like it or not. For your teeth. They don't care enough about you to add, say, vitamins to the water while they're in there adding that fluoride...but your teeth. Yes. Your teeth (and only your teeth) are very, very important to the government.

Brought to you by the Oh Just Shut Up and Drink It Already, Who Even Needs a Pineal Gland Coalition.

http://truthstreammedia.com/new-psa-because-fluoride/

Sooz

22nd August 2014, 08:57

Great clip Calzy and glad to see you here my lovely friend.

Been missing you.

Love Sooz:hugs:

Calz

22nd August 2014, 09:03

... as well :cry:

Ria

22nd August 2014, 10:11

... as well :cry:

Can I be included ? :blsh:

Sooz

22nd August 2014, 10:40

Can I be included ? :blsh:

Of Course, come here possum Darling. :hugs:

Hugs all round....hugfest...:winner::hug::group hug::smile2::fire::unity:

1inMany

22nd August 2014, 11:30

Of Course, come here possum Darling. :hugs:

Hugs all round....hugfest...:winner::hug::group hug::smile2::fire:

Oh how lovely! A hugfest *and* a campfire. I've got the makings for s'mores. Of course with all you health conscious people around here, I may be eating them all myself. I'm okay with that. Haha

:)

Sooz

22nd August 2014, 12:20

Ok, I'll bite, what are 's'mores'? Is that a yanky saying? (Remember I'm an Ozzy.)

Health conscious - me? Most of the time but always up for a bit of devilry.....insert evil laugh there.....:piggy::Seffect:

(Modwiz is probably rolling his eyes by now....:fpalm::rolleyes:)

:tiphat::grin:

:getcoat:

Snoozy

PurpleLama

22nd August 2014, 14:56

PurpleLama

22nd August 2014, 14:58

Oh how lovely! A hugfest *and* a campfire. I've got the makings for s'mores. Of course with all you health conscious people around here, I may be eating them all myself. I'm okay with that. Haha

:)

The s'more in the above post is vegan, although that does not mean healthy by any means. What it does mean, is Rad might try one.

Catsquotl

22nd August 2014, 15:45

Sooz

22nd August 2014, 15:53

Doesn't matter.

Too long.

PurpleLama

22nd August 2014, 17:21

Ah now I know,

Last year my daughter (8) came home and wanted to make a biscuit with a molten marhmallow and chocolat.
So we did.. Some liked them some didn't

anyways.. s'mores ey..

WIth Love
Eelco

I wonder, do they have what we call graham crackers in the Netherlands. This would be integral to the formula of creating a s'more. Also, the marshmallow must be stuck on a stick and roasted on a camp fire, for it to be a true s'more experience.

Catsquotl

22nd August 2014, 17:34

We did roast/melted.burned marshmallows in a campfire. and put them between.
two of these..

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/het-koekje-van-de-chocolade-5603618.jpg

With Love
Eelco

1inMany

22nd August 2014, 18:08

That's pretty close, eelco, but...I don't know if you can say you have had s'mores until you've had them on graham crackers. Now see, there's an art to roasting the marshmallows just so. If they catch on fire and burn, well you just eat those, you see. Because the true s'more marshmallow should be toasted, brown all around, but the inside must be warm and gooey. I have studied this subject at length :)

Speaking of authenic, that looks like a nut of some kind in that chocolate, pl.. smh. Sacrilege.

Playdo

23rd August 2014, 02:26

Here's some master wizardry, of the lumberjack kind:

http://www.wimp.com/lumberjackwizardry/

modwiz

23rd August 2014, 06:23

Here's some master wizardry, of the lumberjack kind:

http://www.wimp.com/lumberjackwizardry/

That was wizardry. Loved it.

Calz

23rd August 2014, 07:58

:cry:

Can I be included ? :blsh:

Yankeez Hankeez are supersized just like everything else in Amerika ...

:hugs:

Catsquotl

25th August 2014, 11:52

After a weekend of dr Who (yes i like the new doctor), a game of risk, some pathfinder and several games of munchkin i've figured it out.
Well for a while at least.

Done with conspirital thinking, stepping away from the misery of the world...
Its all a game anyhow...

So whilst i retreat in to a corner, i get out my deck of munchkin. So who's playing with me...

WIth Love
Eelco

1inMany

25th August 2014, 15:06

modwiz

26th August 2014, 20:06

Hello all. I am fine and enjoying my Summer. I know it is the same as last time. There is joy in a low drama for me. I am happy to see some recent contributions.:)

1inMany

26th August 2014, 21:32

modwiz

27th August 2014, 04:02

Looks like we will have to wait a generation to have people intelligent enough to do anything.:fpalm:

The third grader got the obvious right. "Traveling at 80 miles an hour, how long does it take to travel 80 miles?" Couldn't do the math when the obvious answer was not in the question. That is understandable. However, the voting age generation fared poorly. The third grader first and then the devastation that is a young adult. A few examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFac3mlkxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2eyq9qTOQY#t=116

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f43X6u5hPww

This one is a doozy. The mans wife turns the question into something about her running time. (It is all about her). The hubby is grinning, thinking he is smart. He married her and will have her raising his children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8DNGh126oM

That will be enough. For sure, these do not necessarily reflect what the actual state of a generation is but, the fact that "they" walk amongst us is not a reassuring thought for me.:fpalm:

It is my assumption that these people can vote.:shocked:

Catsquotl

27th August 2014, 04:20

I am pondering the use of the triangle, the possible significance of its usage. I see three sides, so trinity would be obvious. But all I keep finding is the one with the eye in it, and the main widely known groups that are associated with it. Nothing that resonates, thus far. Still looking...

How wonderful, modwiz. :)

Why a triangle?
Even though a trinity is a possible idea around the triangle, it is my understanding that straight lines are "unnatural" to life on earth.
From looking at the development of martial arts for instance.. the rounder forms like ba qua, xing yi and tai qi were effective so called internal styles but take time to master.
It was only in war time that the so called dirct or outer styles were developed utilizing straigt and devestating blows.

Anyway usualy a triangle in martial arts is for positioning and entering at an opportune angle dispersing a force into different directions.
Aikido utilizes a triangular pattern for instance to step past blows and kicks to come up close and personal..
Another triangle is quicly calculated in order to find somebodies weak spot. the third point on the ground is where a bipedal being can easily loose balance..

http://www.slimmerspelen.nl/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/8/6/8661981-2.jpg

Anyway babbling along..

WIth Love
Eelco

ps I think on this planet spheres and magnetic patterns are more usefull

Ria

27th August 2014, 11:36

I have been laughing uncontrollably, the third one took me over the edge the punch line from the Mother at the end :winner::hilarious:

Looks like we will have to wait a generation to have people intelligent enough to do anything.:fpalm:

The third grader got the obvious right. "Traveling at 80 miles an hour, how long does it take to travel 80 miles?" Couldn't do the math when the obvious answer was not in the question. That is understandable. However, the voting age generation fared poorly. The third grader first and then the devastation that is a young adult. A few examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etFac3mlkxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2eyq9qTOQY#t=116

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f43X6u5hPww

This one is a doozy. The mans wife turns the question into something about her running time. (It is all about her). The hubby is grinning, thinking he is smart. He married her and will have her raising his children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8DNGh126oM

That will be enough. For sure, these do not necessarily reflect what the actual state of a generation is but, the fact that "they" walk amongst us is not a reassuring thought for me.:fpalm:

It is my assumption that these people can vote.:shocked:

Catsquotl

27th August 2014, 15:58

Looks like we will have to wait a generation to have people intelligent enough to do anything.:fpalm:
<snip>
It is my assumption that these people can vote.:shocked:

So the assumption here is that if somebody gets confused when numbers are involved they are too stupid to be allowed to vote?
Especially if they are woman?

Wow that quite the assumption.

I have a daughter who suffers from dyscaluly (which is sort of dyslexia with numbers) and has struggled all through school and still does against people who degrade because she cannot do the number thing..
Ah well. It seem we are just all too human too..

With Love
Eelco

Catsquotl

27th August 2014, 16:01

http://katiefinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Maths.jpg

with love
Eelco

modwiz

27th August 2014, 17:37

So the assumption here is that if somebody gets confused when numbers are involved they are too stupid to be allowed to vote?
Especially if they are woman?

Wow that quite the assumption.

I have a daughter who suffers from dyscaluly (which is sort of dyslexia with numbers) and has struggled all through school and still does against people who degrade because she cannot do the number thing..
Ah well. It seem we are just all too human too..

With Love
Eelco

It is not a math question being asked. It is a reading/listening comprehension test. The answer is given in the question. It is not a math question. When the man asked the boy how long it would take to travel 60 miles at 30 miles an hour he was stumped. That was a math question. The boy got that the answer was in the questions themselves in the obvious ones.

That said, what people think of me is none of my business. There is compassion and enabling. Many enabling people think they are compassionate and do not understand compassion that lifts up instead of enabling. Identifying problems with cognition is time well spent, IMO.

Probably time for me to stop posting again. If I am not connecting to people, it is futile for me to contribute. I clearly view the world differently.

I am fortunate that my real world contributions earn me much respect and recognition for my compassion and skills. I even get paid for it.:) So, cyber-world feedback is a curious anomaly. Most likely owing to only having my words, rather than my actions, to take my measure. Actions still speak louder than words and always will. I have coyote as a teacher so, much is not what it seems.

Ria

27th August 2014, 18:33

It is not a math question being asked. It is a reading/listening comprehension test. The answer is given in the question. It is not a math question. When the man asked the boy how long it would take to travel 60 miles at 30 miles an hour he was stumped. That was a math question. The boy got that the answer was in the questions themselves in the obvious ones.

That said, what people think of me is none of my business. There is compassion and enabling. Many enabling people think they are compassionate and do not understand compassion that lifts up instead of enabling. Identifying problems with cognition is time well spent, IMO.

Probably time for me to stop posting again. If I am not connecting to people, it is futile for me to contribute. I clearly view the world differently.

I am fortunate that my real world contributions earn me much respect and recognition for my compassion and skills. I even get paid for it.:) So, cyber-world feedback is a curious anomaly. Most likely owing to only having my words, rather than my actions, to take my measure. Actions still speak louder than words and always will. I have coyote as a teacher so, much is not what is seems.

Now your being over sensitive. Just keep the campfire burning :fire:all is well

Catsquotl

27th August 2014, 19:04

It isn't just a comprehension test. As soon as numbers are involved. a lot of minds just lock up and go blank.
Even though the answer is already givven many people will act on flight or fight principles because of school indoctrination and trauma.

The fact that most movie clips were starring bimbo's and even that last husband gave a wonderfull show of how that woman has probably been treated in the clasroom makes this "simple" question about so much more than just a simple comprehension test.

anyway as you are not interested in how a cyberman like myself thinks about you even though it seems you make an assumption on how i do view you..
I bid you the best in your real world..

With Love
Eelco

Playdo

28th August 2014, 02:27

modwiz

28th August 2014, 04:15

Hey Modwiz, your contributions have a significant effect on some, even though it may not be verbalized. Under the right conditions, a single candle flame can be seen by the naked eye from miles away, to those who are looking.

Good tidings and thanks for the intel.:thup:

Your light is easy for me to see, Brother. Since way back to when I belonged to another forum in addition to TOT. Beautiful colors in that flame.

mojo

28th August 2014, 17:50

Most likely owing to only having my words, rather than my actions, to take my measure.

so true...think for all of us & so a dash more compassion...

1inMany

30th August 2014, 17:33

Well then. Okay.

http://www.time-saving.co.uk/images/cartoons/animated_broom.gif

What an amazing talent she is. Thought I would share :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vDUY4TAw98

Ria

30th August 2014, 18:17

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R5gl1q2InUI

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WsA48xoylKs

Susana Silva what a find, thank you 1inmany

Moonlight

7th September 2014, 13:56

My old cat Mlle (miss) has a cystitis again. I went to the vet on Friday evening with her. There was a lot of blood in the little pee she did. Had x-ray and echography done. No stones, but a very swollen bladder. The vet thinks its of nervous nature... I did have some repairs done around the house lately. He gave her an anti-inflammatory medication that also acts as a pain killer. He wanted to see how this worked before giving her antibiotics as there is nothing bacterial/viral.

Yesterday, as I saw she was still in pain (little pee here and there and letting me know vehemently that something is wrong) so I started an homeopathic remedy protocol (cantharis 9ch and added staphysagria 9ch this morning). There is very little blood in the pee now, which is encouraging, but she is still having a hard time. I know it is very painful for her.

I tried Reiki... I'm too emotionally involved. She's not getting any younger... 15 1/2 now. I am humbly asking for any healing you can send her way. I know there are many cat lovers dwelling in and around the tent.

Meegwetch! (thank you)

Moonlight

8th September 2014, 12:49

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I can see she is already feeling much better... going to the litter box and all. No more going around the house letting me know something's wrong.

You've done it again ! Geez you're good... :)

So much Love !

Calz

8th September 2014, 20:55

... and you and I ... as in we together ... you know ... like ... we are one ...

what chance do we have living in our seperate selfish worlds (aka as the programming continues to pound)???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcGc-nbLco

Calz

8th September 2014, 21:17

Gaia showing off ... get it whilst you can ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIL6iSmBz4g

1inMany

17th September 2014, 13:02

Good morning :) Been a while since I stood up over here, so much sitting is giving me leg cramps. :ttr:

Last week I made a trip to the city. My daughter, K, is 23 and due to give birth to my new granddaughter mid-October. I didn't know what to expect from this trip, as she is the one who dislikes me because I'm so different than I was when she was growing up. I spent three days with her, and with my 6 year old grandson, and it was better than I could have expected. But that's not why I stood up to share, haha.

After taking her back and forth to the doctor and giving her a good ole dose of Cancerian nurture, she was feeling well enough to go get some necessary items in preparation of the baby. Shopping...not my favorite. But...something she wanted to do with me, so I made it a fun trip. Shopping, lunch, and then to get her a pedicure. She was feeling much better about having a weird Mom after I showed her I can exist in her "normal" world. Maybe it is easier for her if she lives in denial of the fact that I'm weird, I don't know.

We were sitting in the nail place. And the lady who was massaging her feet started a conversation that made me very nervous. She started by saying that when we walked in, we lit up the whole place and the warmth and the "good feeling" spread. And I glanced at K out of the corner of my eye, doing an internal wince. This lady continued to relay a couple of instances recently when someone in a particularly foul mood had entered and done the opposite. She said that one in particular came in agitated and felt very "hot" and this lady felt it spread through the whole place. She watched as this agitation "infected" every customer she had. She didn't know what to do, so she got her bottle of alcohol and started misting the whole place to "cool" it off.

It was tricky to maneuver through this. She didn't have any knowledge of anything non-physical, and K has a strong aversion to anything non-physical. So it was a delicate dance I did. I agreed with her, that some negative people are very heavy feeling and their energy seems to be contagious, just like those who are very positive. I suggested something as simple as having candles on hand to warm up the place with a different kind of "heat", and open the doors to let "it" air out. She liked these suggestions, and K even chimed in with the fact that she could get candles real cheap at the dollar store.

This lady looked up at me from sitting on her stool at K's feet and said, "I didn't know there was anyone like you."

Oh. Dear. Well. Hmmmmm.

As we left, I apologized to K. I told her that she knows there is more to me, but that I leave that tucked away when I am around her so as not to make her uncomfortable. She said, "It's okay, Mom. She was all into it too."

It seems...that no matter my intentions, it will come out. Doesn't it? Quite a delicate dance this is, indeed.

Melidae

20th September 2014, 12:21

It seems...that no matter my intentions, it will come out. Doesn't it? Quite a delicate dance this is, indeed.

Perhaps it's because 'it' is you and a not separate thing ...and there's no hiding 'you'.

Just a thought.

modwiz

21st September 2014, 01:39

PurpleLama

24th September 2014, 14:57

Playdo

25th September 2014, 02:00

http://freemantv.com/life-universe-everything/

I listened to this last night and this morning. Time very well spent, hearing about the magic of mathematics. I will probably be getting this guy's books, soon. A very Mason friendly message. I recommend this to everyone.

I'm listening to the interview while I came across this:

The Genius of Betthoven: Music and Math

http://www.wimp.com/musicmath/

KosmicKat

25th September 2014, 11:11

Not just Beethoven, J.S. Bach was also a mathemagician! In fact, during the early renaissance period, music was taught as a form of applied mathematics.

Seikou-Kishi

26th September 2014, 01:21