Disturbing Child Abuse [Archive]

Amanda

24th December 2013, 23:30

For those of you who are following my journey and for those who have just joined in. I attended a WorkCover Hearing/Conciliation on Thursday 19th December 2013. Here are the highlights.

1. The Arbitrator had to maintain strict legal boundaries (even though an inaccurate section was applied to my matter) and the most compensation I could have received was $13,000. I stated that was an insult. Please consider that my life has been destroyed on every level immediately after I made a Mandatory Report in 2011.

2. The barrister of 27 years of legal practice was quite visibly rattled when I mentioned my Federal Human Rights Court Interlocutory Hearing. All she was concerned with was; "What's the remedy?" That is legal meta language for how much money to make this go away? I replied with; "I am setting a precedent so I can change laws." I asked her whether she wanted to read my Statement of Claim which is the basis for the Federal Human Rights Court matter and she replied in the affirmative. She was pulling the sheets out of the plastic covers frantically searching for something. I responded at one stage with this remark, "Some things in life are about ethics and conscience - not everything is about money." Remember readers my journey is about being a voice for Child Abuse victims and survivors.

3. I quoted a section from the Legal Profession Act 2004 to the female barrister - Section 730A Duty to report suspected offences and she responded like a bullet out of a gun with; "I'm not applying that" or words very similar. So I made some notes and while everyone waited for me to complete my notes I looked up and stated that I would be relaying her denial of the law to the current Australian Royal Commission into Child Sexual Abuse.

4. The entire session was recorded and at no time was I informed that the session was confidential thus I share information freely.

5. The outcome of the day - I have withdrawn my matter and can return to it at anytime and re-commence proceedings - however - I elected to transfer my matter to the Fraud Investigation Branch for a full investigation. As I have commenced communications with the Legal Services Commissioner I relayed the barristers denial of the Legal Profession Act 2004 Section 730A Duty to report suspected offences and requested it be added to my current complaint. Please keep in mind that within my workplace my identity as a Mandatory Reporter was not protected and this is a criminal offence that comes with huge fines and/or a custodial sentence. Also know that at two return to work meetings that two professionals admitted that my identity had not been protected - they are the second in charge of the legal office of the Catholic Church and a local administration office employee. During the course of my journey I cannot count the times I have recorded this offence in writing and I am still waiting for one professional to address it professionally.

NB: At one stage I offered, during an attempt at negotiating a one off lump sum compensation payment for pain and suffering and for the three years of my life that have been taken from me that I will never get back - that I would not complete my book/recount for sharing with the public. I stated I would only finish the book/recount for the purpose of sharing information with the current Royal Commission. No attempt was made to negotiate a lump sum one off payment in private which is perfectly legal and does happen. Hmmmm...stay tuned.

Much Peace - Amanda

Calabash

24th December 2013, 23:47

Thanks for keeping us informed Amanda and I wish you all the very best. I wonder whether you have a website and if so, could you append a link? Thanks . . . .

Frances

25th December 2013, 00:19

I wish you good luck and peace of mind Amanda.
Sincerely Frances.

Amanda

25th December 2013, 00:54

Calabash - thank you for your support I truly feel the energy from all the positive thoughts, prayers, meditations and kindness that people send my way. I do not have a blog. When I became a Teacher I joined facebook and realised that it would not be professional with so many Students interacting on all the social networks and I did not actually use the account and then deleted it - if it is actually possibly to really delete anything. Please know I have been destroyed financially adn that has impacted on every aspect of my standard of living.

Just type the title of this thread into the computer search engine and you will find youtube clips and threads. Someone has even started a thread on my behalf and due to their actions I intend to use that thread as evidence - although I cannot discuss my Federal Human Rights Court evidence due to it being filed and served and before the court. Just know that the more threads and articles that share information about my journey - the better.

Logic dictates that the cabal/illuminati/whatever can better spy on people and there information when it is located in one place - dissemination makes it difficult for the cabal/illuminati/whatever to control the information or the people. I do not want to control information or people - I value my freedom and imagine that others do too - so there you have an insight into my spirit and intellect.

I will win my battle - I will do whatever it takes to be a voice for abused Children and Adult survivors who deserve justice. Thank you again for your kindness and support - it keeps me going.

Much Peace - Amanda

Spiral

25th December 2013, 10:18

Hi Amanda, I don't know if you have seen this thread here; http://jandeane81.com/threads/1538-Message-from-rob-halford-for-all-nuggets

Rob Halford is an ex member (and an Aussie too) of this forum (hence the thread) and is a bit of a legal expert, in fact if you go on that radio site you will see that most of what they cover is legal stuff, I think that they may be able to offer support & advice, it would also be another avenue for publicity for your case / cause, you would also make a good guest on one of their shows too.

john parslow

25th December 2013, 13:00

Hi Amanda

You might also wish to contact David Icke's new site called 'The People's Voice' and speak to Sonia Poulton at:

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/the-peoples-voice-sonia-poultons-last-live-show-of-2013/

All the very best for the future. JP xx

Amanda

28th December 2013, 23:40

I wanted to share a short youtube video clip - it filled my heart with hope to know that there are people who are putting an enormous amount of effort into protecting Children from abuse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTSDqsQcN2I

Maybe it has already been posted here - maybe not - it is worth sharing again and again.

Much Peace - Amanda

Amanda

10th February 2014, 12:27

Important update for all the people who are following my journey and supporting me. I had an appointment with my doctor today and I conveyed to him the most recent developments in my journey. Please know that as private appointments with my doctor are confidential I do share information with him that I cannot - as yet - share on the worldwideweb. Keeping that thought in mind - today my doctor broached the subject of should anything happen to me....

I looked him in the eyes and declared on the lives of his Children that I am passionate about completing my current journey and have plans for what I would like to do once I have finished my current journey. In short I stated that- my car crashed into a tree - rope around my neck - slit wrists - pills - et cetera it would be no accident - I declared I would not do anything to harm myself. So I thought I would put it in writing for all to see.

Also a note to all those people - in most of the Australian states and on a variety of continents around the globe - who are holding documents in trust for me. There is a person who has been tasked with contacting you in the event I am unable to upload to the web or publish my documents. Please know that you will be contacted and informed - should I for any reason be unable to upload and/or publish my documents.

I am not afraid and work on the theory that when you are prepared - it does not happen. I will have some information to share soon. I note that another paedophile was brought before the courts in Australian today - several counts with several Children at several locations - that will be difficult to beat!

Much Peace - Amanda

BabaRa

10th February 2014, 18:12

I applaud you in your dedication to your cause, Amanda, and wish you all the success that this terrible atrocity deserves.

Amanda

5th March 2014, 05:05

Quick update for the people who are following my Child Abuse Whistleblower journey. Just received correspondence from the Federal Circuit Court of Australia informing me of a change of court location. The Interlocutory Hearing will now be heard in the Family Court.

I am slightly perplexed but not fazed only because courts list matters so far in advance. The time needed for a matter is also considered as rarely do matters exceed the time reserved and when they do it is usually due to unforeseen events. Having researched Exopolitics for several years now and being in the awakened state I have learned that there is no such thing as a co-incidence. All I will say is hmmm....

The new location for anyone who may be able to attend in person or send meditations, prayers and positive thoughts is; Family Court Lionel Bowen Building Court 3C - 97-99 Goulburn Street Sydney. NSW. Australia. Dates remain the same 20th & 21st March 2014 at 10.15am.

Heartfelt thanks for all the unquestioning trust and support offered to me. I am very grateful. Much Peace - Amanda :group hug:

Sooz

5th March 2014, 07:03

Amanda, I applaud you and all you do for our children.

I'm sure it is a seemingly thankless task, and there are those of us who know what you do.

Karma will prevail.

I pray (and I am not the praying type) that you keep the strength to keep on with your mission.

You are a Golden One.:thup:

Love Sooz

Highland1

5th March 2014, 11:33

Meanwhile in the UK....

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It seems that paedophilia is still a disgusting playground for people in power.

Solution?

Expose them and remove them from power.

Russ

Amanda

12th March 2014, 03:39

Update for those people who are following my journey. Yesterday I received a letter attached to an email - this is not how any professional agency has acted on my three year and continuing journey. There is a sense of urgency & the letter is from the legal office - Catholic Church - of the other side.

Now factor in that I have been pushing for the Legal Services Commissioner to act on certain information and had only recently sent my last correspondence as one last push. The letter I received was about upcoming legal procedure. I was informed - one week away from Federal Court that the solicitor with carriage of their side of my court matter - is no longer in their employ.

Scant details I know but I am erring on the side of caution with regard to legal boundaries. Don't want to make a mistake this close to court. It would appear that the other side have just suffered.

Much Peace - Amanda

Amanda

13th March 2014, 00:22

Quick update for those who are still with me on this Child Abuse Whistleblower journey. Was checking my paperwork this morning and thought I would also check the new court location - given that I had suddenly been informed that my Australian Federal Circuit Court of Human Rights matter has been moved to the Family Court of Australia. I am still waiting on a response from the Federal Court administration office as to the reason for the sudden and unexplained change of court location.

What did I find directly opposite the Family Court building - the Museum of Freemasonry. For those who have been down the rabbit hole of research that is all subjects cabal/illuminati/whatever - perhaps this is the reason for the change - location. Keep in mind my matter does not fit the criteria for Family Court matters. Things that make you go hmmm....

Much Peace - Amanda

Amanda

22nd March 2014, 22:36

Attended court and fought like a warrior.This is the short version. The catholic church breezed into court with their money and their might thinking they could run over me like a steamroller - they did not and could not. The Judge has adjourned and has reserved his decision - to be given in writing.

At this juncture - this is a win. The Judge has so much to consider he could not make a decision on the spot. I need to sleep and when I have recovered I shall share more detail. Thank you for the support - it keeps me going.

Much Peace - Amanda

KosmicKat

23rd March 2014, 12:16

This has me asking "what kind of pressure is being applied to the judge behind the scenes?"

Highland1

25th March 2014, 11:23

DuPont Heir Addmitted in Court to Have Raped His Children for Years, but Received NO JAIL Time

Robert H. Richards IV, 47, is a heir of the chemical giant DuPont and a proven pedophile by a court of law, yet he was never sentenced to jail. Even though Richards IV pleaded guilty to fourth-degree rape of his 3-year-old daughter, back in 2008, the Superior Court Judge Jan Jurden decided to release him on probation. The lawsuit also asserts that Richards IV admitted in April 2010, during a lie detector test, to have sexually abused his son as well. According to his confession, the assaults begun around December 2005, when his son was only 19 months old, and continued for about two years. [1] Presuming that the Superior Court Judge Jan Jurden made a mistake when she first released this sick child rapist on probation, the second confession should have been enough to sentence him to decades behind bars

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But that's not how things work when you are a member of the world's "elites." Robert H. Richards IV (above) is still free today, after promising not to rape his son again.
Richards allegedly told his examiner: "Whatever I did to my son, I will never do it again." [2]
If this sounds like a bad joke to you, then you are not alone.

Actually, this case would have been forever buried if the children's mother, Tracy Richards, wouldn't have filled a new lawsuit seeking monetary damages for their personal injuries.
"This self-confessed, admitted rapist and child abuser didn't go to jail, and, in fact, he stays in luxury where he has always been," attorney Thomas C. Crumplar, who represents the children and Richards' ex-wife Tracy, said during a news conference Tuesday. [3]
According to Crumplar, Tracy Richards is now worried that her former husband might have sexually abused other children as well.

"She is worried that her children may not have been the first to be abused by her husband, he had been a camp counsellor before, so she calls upon anyone who may know anything about Robert H. Richards IV to come forward to help her, her children and any other victims," attorney Crumplar added.

Source http://humansarefree.com/2014/03/dupont-heir-addmitted-in-court-to-have.html

Suggestion........

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Russ

KosmicKat

25th March 2014, 11:34

Interesting suggestion, but I have not seen any evidence to demonstrate that chemical castration is an effective long-term preventive measure for pedophiles (and my family had one until he was ostracized).

Amanda

26th March 2014, 08:21

Here is an update with some details relating to my court attendance on 20th & 21st March 2014 at the Australian Federal Circuit Court of Human Rights.

I relayed all my prepared notes and the trustees for the catholic church attacked my achilles heel, my lack of knowledge regarding legal procedure. Their entire argument was based on my matter having "no reasonable prospects for success" - this is argued on points of law not merely in a literal or moral/ethic respect.

The Judge knows most of what I had but when I tried to to fill the "omissions" that would have completed the scenario, the other side objected. I was then on notice and could not mention certain facts or I would have been in contempt of court. I fought - I did not just stand idly! (Grinning)

The objection and me being put on notice came immediately after I mentioned the word paedophile in a particular sentence. I told the Judge I understood the situation and was aware of what I could now mention and what I could not mention.I told the Judge that I would now scan my notes before I read them out aloud - and - proceed slowly and carefully. I then - using a pen as a pointer - scanned, very carefully about four full A4 pages of notes and one by one, indicated for the Court - that I could not mention any of those notes/facts.

I mentioned to the Judge that I now have 8 (on arriving home 9) confirmed Child Abuse Whistleblowers who have joined me. These people have shared information and evidence with me. They have experienced the almost identical destruction of their lives - immediately after reporting Child Abuse - the same as myself. So similar are the circumstances that it is uncanny I stated to the Judge.

In the 24 hours before I got on a plane to attend Federal Court - I had another four names given to me and a further group of local Teachers - all of whom I have yet to confirm via first person communication. I stated to the Judge that the Child Abuse Whistleblowers would in all probability grow in numbers rather than stop or decrease. I also stated that I wanted to utilise the Court to explore and test my evidence but my only other option - given I am without finances - is to upload all my information and evidence to the worldwideweb.

After I mentioned the upload of all my documents to the worldwideweb - the other sides stated to the Court that "if" that happened (including the transcript of court from 20th & 21st March 2014) - "they would refute that."

People - by refuting - it would bring us back to Court - I am starting to feel as though all roads lead to me at this point in time!!

My personal thoughts are; Why can't we just explore the evidence and deal with this for the sake of the Children!!!

I have much much more to share. Perhaps I can field questions - I am willing to answer any questions to help everyone understand what I did and what we achieved by fighting for two days at a Federal Court level.

Heartfelt gratitude for all the positive thoughts, prayers and meditations people have sent my way - it all helped to keep me safe and calm and completely focused on my purpose as a voice for the Children.

Thank you.

Much Peace - Amanda :h5:;):thup::group hug::eyebrows::cool:

Sooz

26th March 2014, 08:39

Hi Amanda and All,

I wanted to post something today on the 'confession' of Australia's own Cardinal Pell, that he gave to court today, saw it for five nanoseconds on msm TV and now a sweep of the internet - it's all gone. Unbelievable! Basically he was saying the Church was to blame and admitted his failures. He has been in the box for hours today and yesterday.

Remember, this is the man who shortly will be the Pope's right hand man at the Vatican in Rome. He will be the top dog looking after the Vatican's finances.

Only the other day, he was saying he couldn't 'recall' certain things...and this was to be expected at his age. Ahem....and now someone with an admitted failing memory is going to be put in charge of the Vatican's finances?

Gimme a break.

Amanda

26th March 2014, 21:39

Sooz & Everyone - With regard to Cardinal Pell; I have kept emails and correspondence from him and some of his staff. I cannot seem to get the mainstream media interested in this particular correspondence - however - I am yet to go before the current Royal Commission. I can tell you - one email in particular clearly shows that a particular staff member - in charge of a particular office does not know the current Child Protection Legislation or has not been trained by his employers. I want to publish it but I am erring on the side of caution - when my energy levels are recovered I will go again and see whether I can get the mainstream media interested.

Thank you for keeping this thread alive - the more we pay attention and share information - the harder we are to ignore. The Children need our voice until they find their own.

Much Peace - Amanda

Sooz

27th March 2014, 09:34

Want to post this while it's still up. (Seems every time I read something on Pell, a couple of hours later in the MSM, it's gone.)

Pell can't even look at this poor guy who has had his life ruined by the catholic church:

http://www.smh.com.au/national/george-pell-apologises-to-john-ellis-but-is-unable-to-look-him-in-the-eye-20140327-35lqi.html

Disgusting piece of filth, I spit on him. Sorry, not being very Christian I suppose, but then I am not one. The church disgusts me and that's putting it mildly.

Like I tell my son, if you see a priest walking towards you? Run real fast the other way, real quick.

Thankfully he has never been in the vicinity of one, nor a church.

Tribe

27th March 2014, 09:46

Makes me wonder what kind of god are they connecting themselves with ?

Amanda

28th April 2014, 03:29

This is an update due to people asking me questions about whether the Judge in my Federal Human Rights Court matter has delivered a decision. The Judge may take up to three months - that is a standard measure of time when they reserve their decision. So at this stage it is no news is good news and as a friend stated to me - the longer it takes the better it looks for the matter.

In Australia at around the time I was attending Federal Court this was in the mainstream news; Hey Dad! star Robert Hughes gets first taste of prison. "...that he abused five girls aged between six and 15 in the 1980's and 90's. Hughes was arrested and granted bail in London in August 2012, following a two-year international investigation. He was then extradited." "Hughes celebrity agent wife Robyn Gardiner, whose clients include Cate Blanchett, gave evidence at her husband's trial but had no reaction when the guilty verdicts were handed down yesterday." (www.australian)

Also noticed that Bryan Singer of XMen fame has been accused in a federal lawsuit of sexually assaulting a 15 year old boy. "...that was the site of regular drug-fueled underage sex romps. The suit says Singer forced Egan into a hot-tub hookup." (sott.net /Societys Child). Not to forget about Dylan Farrow writing an open letter to alert the public to the abuse she suffered at the hands of Woody Allen. ( www.euronews)

In Australia recently; NSW Police officer charged with child rape.The Police officer is described as a male senior constable and I imagine he will probably be a former Police officer now. He has also been charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm but the article did not state whether that was in connection to another person or the child - who is under ten years of age. The adult male officer from the Goulburn area of NSW was charged on April 17th 2014 and is due to appear in Goulburn Court on June 19th 2014. Please note that the NSW Police Academy is located in Goulburn. (www.abc.net.au)

Can anyone spot the common factor in all these Child Abuse news articles?

Much Peace - Amanda

KosmicKat

28th April 2014, 11:42

I would also like to add that a few days ago the BBC mentioned on radio that victims are being invited (http://www.slatergordon.co.uk/personal-injury/sexual-and-physical-abuse/jimmy-savile-investigation-and-latest-news/) to come forward to assist in the Metropolitan Police Operation Yewtree (http://content.met.police.uk/News/Operation-Yewtree-Update/1400012396517/1257246745756) investigating Jimmy Saville. The story was mentioned once, perhaps twice in a three hour programme and buried.

According to the u.K. tabloid newspaper The Mirror (http://www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/jimmy%20savile%20child%20abuse), there may be as many as 900 victims.

Amanda

25th May 2014, 09:47

An update with what appears to be progress with regard to a high profile case - where afterwards the Child Abuse Whistleblower was arrested - this could see a turnaround of events. I will share two links to two mainstream news articles.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-27502137

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2635119/Police-watchdog-probe-six-officers-three-forces-failing-to-act-information-paedophile-Lostprophets-singer-Ian-Watkins-BEFORE-attempted-rape-baby.html

I will also share a link to a website that is publishing a three part expose about paedophile rings operating in Australia. The expose is authored by a Child Abuse Survivor. The link is for Part 1.

http://www.independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/trapped-inside-australias-vast-child-abuse-network-part1,6460

Please keep sharing information with parents, guardians,carers and all conscientious humans. Children deserve our attention and our protection - we are their voice until they find their own. Thank you to everyone for supporting this thread and its valuable content.

Much Peace - Amanda

Sooz

25th May 2014, 11:22

Hi Amanda.

Man oh Man. Thank you so much for what you are doing Amanda.

You are an amazing person.

ronin

25th May 2014, 13:05

David Icke has mentioned the elite pedophile circle for many years and was laughed at.
the Jimmy Saville has opened a can of worms for the elite and more and more public faces are being questioned.
what i am seeing is that this is a normality for the elite,but now they are being exposed.
first to be thrown to the wolves are the actors and popstars,they are hoping it will stop there.
but as people dig deeper we now know that it does not.

there are many rich and famous people who are not in the public eye.

can we prosecute royalty,or the Vatican?

this is not just about individuals,but of a whole network of our global so called leaders.

the masses will not accept this to be true because it will rock there believe system of whom they vote for and think of leaders in our countries.

just like Hollywood the BBC may have it,s own initiation process to progress in that field of industry.

and once you in your in!no getting out.

some call it selling your soul to the devil!

i feel Ian Watkins was part of a group!
why would two mothers offer their child up for him?
this to me screams ritual and mind control.
but has any other of the group been exposed?

Amanda

26th May 2014, 00:42

Quick update. Last night I updated threads on the web - with the same title as this thread - all commenced at around the same time. One site has moved the entire thread to their site trashbin effectively deleting it/making it unavailable to the public. Things that make you go hmmm...

Please keep in mind I am a former operational Police officer and tread very carefully with regards to legal boundaries. I have requested a polite answer to the question why? If anyone wants to know the reasons for the actions of the site I will share the details here. My logic and cognitive dissonance dictates that anyone who supports action for Crimes Against Children - anywhere - even by virtue of reading through posts as an exercise in self education - stands in support of protecting Children from paedophiles and predators - am I correct? So logic and cognitive dissonance should suggest the opposite for anyone who is against the sharing of information that seeks to protect Children from abuse - yes? Or am I fatigued and lost?

Much Peace - Amanda

Tribe

26th May 2014, 19:01

Ria

26th May 2014, 19:42

Amanda
You are doing a fab job. The fact your information has been taken down says more about them and who they are.
Sorry I have not been in touch I have been sofa surfing for some months, have moved in now still a bit of a builders site.
:winner: to you

Amanda

1st July 2014, 11:09

An update with some information about the Federal Circuit Court of Human Rights case. I will relay the information as it unfolded today.

I contact the Federal Court Administration via email wanting to submit additional evidence. I receive a quick reply advising me of which forms are required et cetera.

I also sent a fax to the Associate of the Judge and received a brief email late today. I was informed I cannot submit further evidence once a Judge has reserved a decision and that a letter was posted TODAY!

All I know is that the court will convene in 11th July 2014 at 9.30am at Court 8.2 - 80 William Street Sydney.

I have no idea what will happen. Any comments and any support will be received with heartfelt warmth and gratitude.

Much Peace - Amanda

NB Interesting to note that Rolf Harris was found guilty today - that is a win for all the victims who were brave enough to come forward and any others who may have been involved also.

Sooz

1st July 2014, 11:36

KosmicKat

1st July 2014, 12:01

I incline to the view that the "certain people" are finding that things are not going their way so easily as they used to.

It has taken a while to get underway, but you don't stop a supertanker on a dime. The Big Reveal is underway (if you're looking in the right direction, and you're willing to believe what you're seeing).

Sooz

1st July 2014, 13:06

Amanda

2nd July 2014, 01:39

You cannot stop anything at short notice - absolutely correct. As an example the Australian Child Abuse Whistleblower Fiona Barnett collected evidence for nine and a half years - about a (so called) teacher with the name of Gary Willis. Articles have been published online on independentaustralia.net where Students who are now Adults recalled even more evidence. Fiona has already been before the current Australian Royal Commission into Child Abuse - he still has not been formally investigated. Fiona has responded to a request from the editor of independentaustralia.net David Donovan to comment on the recent interim report from the Royal Commission. From my current perspective the Royal Commission is looking like a fact finding mission - and that comment is based on the fact that the members of the current Royal Commission have the authority to act immediately on evidence - they have not! Join the dots people.

Much Peace - Amanda

Amanda

5th July 2014, 02:35

Wanted to share a comment that has been made to me by more than one person. The comment suggests the victims of Rolf Harris took an awfully long time to report him. I am staggered by the unknowing and unthinking of adult humans however I am patient - just need to share information so that we can all learn.

It can take a damn long time to get a paedophile or predator into a courtroom. Fiona Barnett is an Australian Child Abuse Whistleblower - published on independentaustralia.net - so read of her work she is a powerhouse of energy and pure will. She gathered evidence on a Teacher over a period of nine and a half years - has already sat before the current Royal Commission Into Institutional Responses To Child Sexual Abuse - asked the Commissioners whether they have the authority to act on information - and - the Teacher is still uninvestigated and working with Children!!!

Victims are abused and held to their abuse with fear and terror. When they finally find the courage to stand up and relive their abuse people question their actions!!!! I am staggered by the ignorance in this world but I temper it with an understanding heart because I know we have all been lied to and deceived and fed poison in our water and food. Whatever happens at Federal Court on Friday 11th July 2014 - it will be the beginning. There is no legislation in place for Child Abuse Whistleblowers and whatever happens I will be invoking my rights and freedoms to share all I have gathered - with the global internet community. It is the only way that people will learn. Any other intellectually sound suggestions will be gratefully received and acted upon.

Much Peace - Amanda

Amanda

31st July 2014, 09:23

Update for those who are following the Child Abuse Whistleblower journey. I have started a facebook page where I have been able to publish sensitive information that would not be permitted on any other site. This is the part that is incredible - I authored numbered posts and by Post No. 10 I was sharing the actual Mandatory Reporting information that named names. I did not include all the information because I had invoked my legal and lawful rights and freedoms - but - of course was not sure whether they would be viewed as legitimate. I was not arrested or charged - as a matter of fact I did not even know the Police had been contacted until a news article appeared in the local newspaper.

The Catholic College mentioned engaged a legal firm for civil action relative to defamation - even their legal team made mistakes - I can hardly believe the ineptitude of the legal firm. (Picture me shaking my head). I did take down Post No. 10 as a precaution - my motivation being to keep the page active. Victims and witnesses have come forward and have informed me that the page is of significant importance to them. I am gradually re-posting the deleted information as a I research legal boundaries. There is no Child Abuse Whistleblower legislation - so - I may have actually commenced the change that is so very needed. Read for yourself.

So - please feel free to visit the facebook page titled: Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page. The posts are numbered and I gradually supply documents and parts of document evidence. I have been overwhelmed by the response - particularly by locals who have contacted me via private messaging to disclose and share information/evidence.

Please also consider reading the following article - http://childabuserecovery.com/cia-bonded-with-nazis-to-sex-traffic-kill-naked-children-at-human-hunting-parties Australian Child Abuse Whistleblower and ritual abuse survivor Fiona Barnett is quoted in the article and an elite abuser is named. Just as Australian actor Robert Hughes was sacrificed as was Rolf Harris - so too perhaps Antony Kidman (father of Nicole Kidman) is next in line. We can only hope for justice. Fiona is one of many Child Abuse Whistleblowers who feature in an early post - we have all suffered in the same way - immediately after reporting Child Abuse - please read for yourself.

Thank you for reading this far and taking an interest in a repugnant subject. Please talk about Child Abuse as it is the only way we will maintain any chance of obliterating this scourge of society. As always I am grateful for the support that is offered by the global internet community.

Much Peace - Amanda

Sooz

31st July 2014, 09:43

Hi Amanda,

Thanks for your tireless efforts in keeping us informed. Wow, that is some very explosive information in your last post. The links within the link, I mean.

I knew about the hunting parties, but some of those Australian people, holy crap. I've always been told that Australia is very much involved, I hadn't realised to what degree.

I do a lot of shaking my head these days.

Sooz

Ria

31st July 2014, 09:44

CIA bonded with Nazis to sex traffic, kill naked children at human hunting parties?Comments 0- Judy Byington on July 30, 2014 inChild Exploitation Child Holocausts Children Human Trafficking Investigations ITCCS Press Releases Ritual Abuse

Nicole Kidman’s father and clinical psychologist Antony David Kidman named as Fiona Barnett’s global elite perpetrator.

CIA, Military psychologist Dr. John Gittinger who developed the Personality Assessment System, was named as mind control survivors Fiona Barnett, Claudia Mullen and Christine Nicola’s global elite perpetrators.

At the tender age of three Fiona Barnett was trapped inside Australia’s vast pedophile network where children were sex trafficked, hunted down for sport and murdered. Splintering little ones into multiple personalities was the job of CIA Nazi mind control experts at Australia’s Holsworthy Army Base. The Independent Australia News reported that her dramatic testimony put members in tears when she went before the Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.

Barnett, Dutch therapist Toos Nijenhuis and Jenny Hill of Garden Grove California all claimed their mind control experiences were overseen by Nazi mind control experts imported into their countries by the CIA after World War II to develop Super Spies. The childhood trauma that shattered them into multiple personalities included being repeatedly raped from an early age. Their abuse seemed to intensify by age six.

“In the late afternoon of Oct. 28 1975 I was taken to my sixth birthday party in the Kiama rainforest,” Barnett said. “The cordial was spiked with drugs. I fell asleep. When I awoke it was dark and I was lying naked face-up spread-eagle on a picnic table with my hands and legs tied. Perpetrators took turns sneaking up on me. A large group of men arrived in pick up trucks. They carried rifles and had a pack of starving Doberman dogs. I was told that the group of naked children huddled nearby were my responsibility. I was to run and hide them. Every child I failed to hide would be killed and fed to the dogs. They painted something on my back and chest, and then released us. I pushed the children up over the first steep hill. It was about the second or third hill that the hunting party reached us. Shots were fired and children began dropping all around me. With all hope lost of my saving the other children, I took off and ran for my life.”

Dutch therapist Toos Nijenhuis testified before five judges of the International Common Law Court of Justice in Brussels about her childhood torture at Barnett’s same Australian Holsworthy Army Base. Her perpetrators were military personnel directed by the CIA. Toos claimed that as a child she was forced to witness child murders that involved global elites who included former Pope Joseph Ratzinger, Dutch Catholic Cardinal Alfrink and Bilderberger founder Prince Bernhard. In this video Nijenhuis explained to International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State Secretary Reverand Kevin Annett, her witness to child sacrifices as late as 2010.

Like Nijenhuis, since 2011 over 64 survivor witnesses have been testifying before the ICLCJ Court of their ritualized abuse by global elites of the Ninth Circle Satanic Child Sacrifice Cult. These European royality, prominent government officials, Catholic popes and cardinals, politicians and military personnel throughout the Americas and UK commonwealth countries evidently had well organized and secretive human hunting parties. Privately owned forest groves were said to be used in the US, Canada, France and Holland. It appeared children and teens were obtained by a criminal drug syndicate known as Octopus, then stripped naked, raped, hunted down and killed.

Barnett and Nijenhuis claims of rape and witnessing child sacrifice was much like those of Jenny Hill of Garden Grove California. In this video Hill explained her witness to a child sacrifice overseen by a Nazi CIA operative later identified as Dr. Green. The murder took place on the Satanic holiday of June 21 1965 Summer Solstice.

Survivors of CIA mind control throughout their childhood Claudia Mullen and Christine Nicola testified in the 1995 US Congressional hearings on human radiation experiments in this video. They, too, were tortured by Dr. Green. Military psychologist Dr. John Gittinger, famous for developing the Personality Assessment System, was also named as a perpetrator. Nicola stated that she found papers in Dr. Green’s office that indicated he ran the CIA mind control program.

The Ninth Circle Satanic Child Sacrifice Cult could easily hide their crimes. They were well trained by Hitler’s mind control experts from Nazi Germany. Barnett’s Nazi grandfather’s pedophile network included Mullen and Nicola’s perpetrator Dr. John W. Gittinger. In the Independent Australia she stated that as a young child, “Gittinger abused and raped me.”

Barnett also named as her perpetrators two former Australian prime ministers, a Parliament House governor general and a state police commissioner. Another was Nicole Kidman’s father Antony David Kidman, who was a clinical psychologist, biochemist, author and university lecturer. As with child pedophile rings in the Netherlands, Europe, Canada and the US, the Australian abuse network included police officers, psychiatrists, biochemists, psychologists, actors, writers, politicians, university lecturers and medical doctors.

Since 2011 the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State has been prosecuting these child rape and murder cases of global elite members of the Ninth Circle Satanic Cult. The ICLCJ International Court has over 450 Common Law Peace Officers in 13 countries, with 51 local chartered groups operating. Organizing funds were available for common law groups wishing to apply. To contact the ITCCS, ICLCJ Court in Brussels, its local affiliates, or to volunteer, email or call: itccscentral@gmail.com, hiddenfromhistory1@gmail.com, 386-323-5774 (USA) or 250-591-4573 (Canada).

About the Author
Judy Byington, MSW, LCSW, retired, author of “Twenty Two Faces: Inside the Extraordinary Life of Jenny Hill and Her Twenty Two Multiple Personalities” (www.22faces.com) is a retired therapist, Public Speaker, Activist and investigative journalist whose articles on international child exploitation rings have been cited on hundreds of blogs and websites. The ex-Supervisor, Alberta Mental Health and Director Provo Family Counseling Center is the CEO of Child Abuse Recovery and Speakers Bureau (www.ChildAbuseRecovery.com). If you have news tips about child abuse issues please email Judy info@22faces.com. You are invited to sign our petition to Congress for an investigation of the CIA mind control of children by clicking here: http://www.change.org/petitions/us-congress-survivors-request-investigation-cia-mind-control-of-children

Amanda

31st July 2014, 10:04

Thank you Ria and Sooz. Ria I am very much as dumb as dog*&^% as they say - when it comes to computer land! I don't always get the computer technical stuff right but I can assure you I will get this battle right. Thanks again for uploading the text for the article. Much Peace - Amanda

Ria

31st July 2014, 10:36

Just under two decades ago I was told by the mother of my daughter's friend that Nicole Kidman was a hermaphrodite, this information was imparted by a medic who worked as a team with Nicole's dad to change Nicole's to a more female orientation.
A decade later another acquaintance was annoyed that her daughter about 20 and not so inclined, was being pursued by Nicole.
This is all hearsay, though the people en parting the information seemed genuine enough.
This would make more sense given the information about her farther and Tom Cruz denials etc.
I don't blame or judge her, just hope she is not passing on her fathers idea of child care.

I wonder how this will effect her work.

Amanda

31st July 2014, 15:06

Ria - I too recall many years ago hearing the same hermaphrodite story. I have also been informed that cloning is possible - the person who mentioned it to me, with regard to Nicole Kidman laughed when I suggested that with loads of quality and subtle plastic surgery who could tell the difference between a clone and a plastic surgery patient. My understanding is that cloned humans are sterile and cannot propagate in the natural manner and Nicole Kidman has had at least one baby naturally - or did she? Was it just a stage managed performance for the public with the baby coming from a surrogate. The elite organised paedophile rings actually keep women know as breeders who are kept pregnant to supply the babies for the ritual sacrifices.

I know thi ssubject is repugnant and I find myself quietly reciting - Get thee behind me Satan. Such an horrific subject and one that I have learned is quite real. Even more horrific for the Children who survive the abuse and heart breakingly sad for those who are murdered during the rituals. I call them Nydelig Unger as a coping mechanism - I refuse to let them be nameless or forgotten. It is Norwegian for Beautiful Children.

When I first started the Child Abuse Whistleblower journey there were aspects about Child Abuse of which I was skeptical. The ritual abuse I thought was probably rare and hard to detect let alone prosecute in a courtroom - however - I have learned that the elite practice barbaric and evil ritual abuse in an organised manner right around the planet. I now know. So with that in mind Nicole Kidman as a clone because the original was murdered - who knows. I do know the paedophiles and predators would sacrifice their own Children if their practices dictated they had to - the organised paedophile rings are nothing short of a living horror movie.

Thanks for being interested in this difficult to discuss subject.

Much Peace - Amanda

Seikou-Kishi

31st July 2014, 16:51

"Get thee behind me Satan" always seemed a bit weird to me... Unless you have eyes in the back of your head, better that he stands before you where you can keep your eye on him.

ronin

31st July 2014, 17:12

"Get thee behind me Satan" always seemed a bit weird to me... Unless you have eyes in the back of your head, better that he stands before you where you can keep your eye on him.

and would you recoqnise him if you saw him.
just look at all that you have voted for that run each country.
look at Isreal and Palastine.
look at the death count and destruction of the planet.

and you really think he,s gonna stand in front of you!
not a fooking chance,he,ll want your energy,your love and compassion,your believe of him being a good person,then he will cause havoc upon the world?
not just it but it,s puppets that we have been brainwashed are doing the best in our interest to do!

Ria

31st July 2014, 19:10

"Get thee behind me Satan"
I have come across a couple of people that hold great store by it.

It seems it has been used successfully, I have my doubts.
On further questioning it just seems they trust in the recommendation.

Amanda

1st August 2014, 01:58

Gosh - I did not expect the comments about Get thee behind me Satan. It was just the phrase that came to mind when I was writing. I usually recite a prayer that starts with; I renounce all evil forever & I repel all evil always. I suppose that when I am tired I utilise whatever comes to mind first. Thank you for the interest in this subject. I never used to consciously think of evil or satan in an ongoing manner - I do now. I don't obsess I want to choose my words carefully this time - I know that there is an evil presence on this planet and I know that evil presence has brain washed/mind controlled good kind gentle people.

My purpose for being here is to make change with regard to how we protect and educate the Children - whether I make a small difference or a big difference I want to make a difference - at the very least I want the Children (of every age) to know that we cared about what was happening and that we did something as opposed to nothing.

Thank you for making me feel welcome on this site - some sites I get lost in the volume of posts but here I actually sense the presence and emotion of the people who contribute to this thread - thank you.

Much Peace - while we work through this convoluted mess - Amanda

Ria

1st August 2014, 07:07

Amanda I commend the work your doing, the phrase just peeked our interest and bringing it up might of brought more information forward.
Did you say you had a site or was it a face book page?
:tiphat:

KosmicKat

1st August 2014, 10:46

Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Child-Abuse-Whistleblowers/1425381074417056?fref=ts)

Amanda, please correct this link if I got it wrong. Thanks.

On the subject of "Get thee behind me" there is also the possibility of invoking your Godseed potential and hurling the offense/offender into oblivion.

Myscha

Ria

1st August 2014, 10:54

Sooz

1st August 2014, 11:22

My purpose for being here is to make change with regard to how we protect and educate the Children - whether I make a small difference or a big difference I want to make a difference - at the very least I want the Children (of every age) to know that we cared about what was happening and that we did something as opposed to nothing.

Thank you for making me feel welcome on this site - some sites I get lost in the volume of posts but here I actually sense the presence and emotion of the people who contribute to this thread - thank you.

Much Peace - while we work through this convoluted mess - Amanda[/QUOTE]

I'm glad TOT members have made you feel welcome Amanda. I can imagine on other forums with a huge membership you must feel your voice is lost in the wilderness.

We are a small but crazy, sincere bunch here.

Sooz

Amanda

1st August 2014, 12:11

Ria - Yes there is a facebook page where I have actually blown the whistle and published some of the sensitive information contained in the second of the two Mandatory Reports I made in 2011. I have not been arrested and that is because I know what I am doing. To not get arrested is a win! I did take some information down as the Catholic School engaged legal representation but I have been researching legal boundaries and have started to put deleted info back online. There is NO Child Abuse Whistleblower legislation - I travelled the hard road of three and a half years to get to the point of publishing sensitive information. The aim is to change the legislation that is in place because it offers more protection to the paedophiles and predators than the victims - and - can be circumvented. I have worked out not only the who but the how.

KosmicKat - yes the facebook link is correct. Sometime over the weekend I will complete Post No. 20 and that will be a complete series on the brief details of my Child Abuse Whistleblower journey plus the document evidence I have on hand. As for hurling the opposition into oblivion - gee I hadn't thought of that but I really hope that what you suggest is true. So Ria I guess that is part of my intention - get the opposition out of the way so I can concentrate on helping the Children and to get some legislative change happening as well as helping people understand more about this woeful subject.

Sooz - I am meeting some amazing people on the worldwideweb and am very grateful for their concern and support. If I had money I know that I could visit them and get to see most of the world - but - for now I know that they stand with me and that is all I need to continue at this juncture.

Thank you and much peace - Amanda

KosmicKat

1st August 2014, 15:57

Do you mean by making this statement, you are making this your intention.?

Not sure quite how to explain it really. Intention signifies something you will do at some point in the future. What I am trying to convey is telling the universe "I will NOT accept this. Don't do it again."

It may take a while, and you need to tell the universe what is acceptable, but it will be effective.

Ria

1st August 2014, 16:34

Not sure quite how to explain it really. Intention signifies something you will do at some point in the future. What I am trying to convey is telling the universe "I will NOT accept this. Don't do it again."

It may take a while, and you need to tell the universe what is acceptable, but it will be effective.
I like your thinking.:winner:

Amanda

2nd August 2014, 00:58

KosmicKat - when I mentioned the phrase - Get thee behind me Satan - it is more about not letting evil drain me of my energy. Think of a person who looks you in the eye when you are speaking and it is because they are sincere - now - compare that to a person who stares at you when you are speaking. Is the person who is staring actually listening or trying to exert control - think of a staring contest.

All I know from experience is that you can spend time with a person and when they leave you will feel light and wonderful - and - you can spend time with someone and when they leave you will feel drained of energy. Both people could be people you know and consider to be friends - but - the question is about why one makes you feel fabulous and the other makes you feel listless and without energy?

All I know is that evil comes in many forms and shapes and our instincts are sometimes the only protection we have. I just want to get up each day and not be hampered or held back by negative forces. You have really made me think about my comment - thank you -critical thinking is essential once you are in the awakened state.

Much Peace - Amanda

KosmicKat

2nd August 2014, 12:07

You also have given me something to think about. Thank you Amanda.

Cearna

6th August 2014, 08:21

As to the Statement, there is real intent to be given in this, but you shouldn't crave what this actually says. For instance, when a topless girl, sits at your side, you are still in line of sight with her, she isn't the evil one, it is the one who makes remarks like "We don't approve of what you are doing, you are a slut to me and mine", she is the innocent, who is simply living in real life, as a female in some form of undress.

The need to see evil in her form of undress, is in the mind of the beholder and you come face to face here with the innocence of all who see this form of wearing clothes as completely natural as compared to benign belief that any one who faces it is to turn away from such behaviour as the formation of evil.

If however, you were the one facing her, you are now the fomenter of either innocence or the proclaimer of the foreign order of such things, in other words, you are able to see but not make judgement on who or what she is - so to face off the evil intent, is the ability to claim something that is evil to you or not. Evil like to state, "I am the most wondrous you are ever likely to meet, whilst at the same time really saying they are living your life for you, in view of what they're making judgement on.

If, however, evil is behind you, you are in some way, not able to face up to some Truth which you already own, but cannot in fact put it to one side, where it can be seen, felt or heard as your self Truth, for you cannot in fact control it and stand confidently to stop it or need to control it.

KosmicKat

6th August 2014, 12:13

It is possible to extrapolate from what you say, Cearna. Knowledge brings with it responsibility. When we do not know, there is no obligation to act. When we know, there is the question of how we understand what we know, and whether we act upon that understanding.

Sooz

16th August 2014, 08:33

Oz Whistleblower discussing their abuse in Sydney, Australia. Thought it should be in this thread. Mind-blowing stuff.

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=145356

Spiral

16th August 2014, 08:53

Oz Whistleblower discussing their abuse in Sydney, Australia. Thought it should be in this thread. Mind-blowing stuff.

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=145356

Disclaimer, this is from GLP a well known controlled disinfo / shill site !

Discretion advised !

Ria

16th August 2014, 09:06

Oz Whistleblower discussing their abuse in Sydney, Australia. Thought it should be in this thread. Mind-blowing stuff.

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=145356

This completely supports what Amanda has been reporting.

Just to add I have only just seen Spiral's comment, Is every thing they do about dis information? Also has this been put here to sow doubt?

Sooz

16th August 2014, 09:43

Spiral

16th August 2014, 17:05

Just to clarify, I reported my own post above re the Whistleblower, to the Mods, because I was concerned about real names being used and addresses. I was a bit nervous about posting it.

Yes, it's from GLP, but not everything is a conspiracy or disinfo. I feel it's genuine - there is too much detail in there as well as names and addresses. Clearly this person is at their wits end and trying to do anything possible to get the info out.

But like Spiral says, use your own discernment.

Stuff like that is ok as a link because no names are given here on TOT (as far as I know lol)

Some sites are better than others & certain forums are well known to heavily control what is said & what is not said*, with GLP & ATS being the main culprits, allegedly......:whstl:

* I don't mean in normal "moderated" way either, certain topics can't be posted or have to have a "certain point of view".

Amanda

23rd August 2014, 12:17

I am sharing a link to an article that cites Child Abuse Whistleblower and ritual child abuse survivor - Fiona Barnett. She is one of a number of Child Abuse Whistleblowers who are aligned and have shared their evidence via the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page on facebook. I started the page and it is proving successful in that - after publishing sensitive Mandatory Report information I was not arrested by the Police. Some information has been temporarily deleted as legal boundaries are ascertained and the deleted information is gradually being restored.

Fiona Barnett has been cited in two recent articles - the link below being the most recent. It is interesting to note that at the time Fiona made a police statement and a formal complaint to a government health agency - Antony Kidman left Australia. Copies of the documents are being held in trust and should the professional agencies fail to investigate the documents will be released in full to the public.

There are rights and freedoms that enable the release of sensitive information to the public - you can read about these in Post. No.3 on the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page. Also the fourth & fifth estate can be invoked when legal avenues fail. The fourth and fifth estate permit the publishing of information via social media to share evidence with the public in an effort to bring about justice. Journalists utilise the fourth & fifth estate as it becomes necessary.

http://beforeitsnews.com/celebrities/2014/08/mafia-threatens-pope-court-considers-child-sacrifice-links-to-vatican-cia-sinclair-oil-hsbc-cargill-cameco-uranium-antony-kidman-2467996.html

Thank you for being interested in this difficult to broach subject and thank you for reading this far.

Much Peace - Amanda

Sooz

23rd August 2014, 13:39

:ht:Thank you for all that you do Amanda.

I salute you.

There are many working behind the scenes.

Sooz

23rd August 2014, 14:01

Spiral can you elaborate a bit more with regard to Kevin Arnett?

Amanda

12th September 2014, 17:36

Brief update for those who are interested and following the thread and welcome to anyone recently joining in. I have an update on the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page on facebook concerning the recent death of Antony Kidman.

I also picked up a brochure regarding the current Australian Royal Commission Into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse and want to offer my help to anyone who is illiterate or struggles with writing. The Royal Commission are only accepting written submissions so if you cannot write or struggle to write they are not interested in your submission. I think this is unacceptable so -as a qualified English Teacher and a recognised Child Abuse Whistleblower I am offering my help. Please share this information and let anyone who needs my help know that I am here. I have never asked for money so that is not an issue.

Much Peace - while we work our way through this chaos - Amanda

Ria

13th September 2014, 06:32

This is from another thread here. Have you seen any of the "Pie and mash" videos?

http://jandeane81.com/threads/4145-Transcript-of-Anne-Marie-van-Blijenburgh’s-testimony-about-child-murders-in-Belgium

Amanda

13th September 2014, 12:40

Ria - Yes I am well connected to Pie and Mash. Thank you for staying the distance - much has happened recently and I will share it all when it is appropriate. The Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page on faceache has been a huge help & I have to sort through the information and evidence that has been provided.

Unfortunately I have hit the wall with regards to my health but the doctor drugs are enabling me to continue - albeit not as much as I would like. Thank you to everyone who is keeping this thread alive - that is all I have asked for - just to stand shoulder to shoulder - we are winning.

Much Peace - Amanda

Sooz

13th September 2014, 13:58

Sorry to hear you are having health issues. Positive vibes being sent your way, sister.

Please let us keep this thread alive, it is SO important.

Ria

13th September 2014, 16:54

Abuse is perpetrated on many levels, part of becoming conscious necessitates we practice due diligence.
Un slaving the slave in all of us.
Amanda I salut your fine work and wish you well.

Amanda

15th September 2014, 06:49

Update - please read the attached link http://beforeitsnews.com/celebrities/2014/09/nicole-kidmans-father-dies-amid-pedophile-child-murder-ring-allegations-video-2469854.html and know that Fiona Barnett is one of the Child Abuse Whistleblowers who is aligned with others and myself on the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page on facebook.

Fiona has given me permission to publish documents and as those who know me well enough - I am treading carefully. I want to publish the correspondence from the medical health agency who accepted the complaint and had commenced investigation procedures - and - I want to publish the page from the actual complaint that details the abuse. As Kidman is now a deceased person he cannot sue and the Kidman family are in no way being defamed. Nevertherless I will move with caution.

A complete article is currently being planned for publication by the publisher/editor David Donovan on independentaustralia.net where you can find all other articles by Fiona Barnett.

I am so proud of Fiona - the courage necessary to come forward is enormous.I cannot find the words to express how proud of am and how blessed I feel to have her as my friend. She is travelling okay and I have spoken to her on the phone twice today. Her healing process is still moving forward - please keep her safe in your prayers and thoughts and meditations.

Much Peace - while we work through this chaos and pain - Amanda

NB Ria - I noted that the link above was on the top of the list of ukcolumn - where you started a thread on my behalf. I wish I could join that site but they need a pound to join and unless someone can tell me how to get a dollar/pound from Australia to them - I am frustrated - the joining process is all ticking boxes so I cannot explain my situation. Any help there would be appreciated. Thank you everyone for the continuing support - we are winning!

Sooz

15th September 2014, 08:32

Spiral can you elaborate a bit more with regard to Kevin Arnett?

Kevin Arnett seems to tie in with all this stuff, is he really not legitimate and why not? Seems no-one wants to talk about this here.

Amanda, can you shed any light on this man?

Amanda

15th September 2014, 09:38

Sooz - I will be honest and say that I have not actually had the time to contact him personally or research him thoroughly - however - I have a friend who lives at a distance but does know considerably more about some specific topics such as vaccines and fracking etc. He has communicated to me about Kevin Arnett so I can communicate with him and see whether I can shed light on your question.

I do know that half the battle with regard to any type of revealing of truth - on any subject - is being able to ascertain a direct connection with the source. As an example I have been completely transparent about who I am, right down to publishing my former police registration number and teaching registration number and using my real name - this means anyone can research me and detect whether I am a fraud or not. When I went to Federal Court - I listed all the details and those are all available to the public online.

Perhaps Kevin Arnett has not published enough about himself to let people see his credibility. As an example - I don't just post about the Child Abuse Whistleblower journey I am on - I talk about myself and my actions as well. Does that make sense? I have made myself and my actions as transparent as possible because when someone tries to use your truth as a weapon against you - think about it - what will it do? No harm at all ....

In a world where the mainstream media is tightly managed and everything beamed out of the tv is completely controlled - and - with paid disinformation agents, trolls and shills infiltrating the alternate media - it comes down to instincts sometimes. I will try to find out some info on him from my underground sources as well. I now have an enormous underground following - I shake my head sometimes when I think about the "invisible" army that watches every post I make. Keeps me going on the tough days. I cannot thank them enough.

I will get back to you Sooz on your question.

Much Peace - Amanda

Sooz

15th September 2014, 09:55

Ria

16th September 2014, 01:26

JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA TEACHER SUSPENDED AFTER SHOCKING SEX ED DEMONSTRATION
http://modernwomandigest.com/jacksonville-florida-teacher-suspended-shocking-sex-ed-demonstration/

Sooz

16th September 2014, 08:44

Their NWO agenda is right on target and going swimmingly well. So far. Even though they are well behind in their timing, thanks to the awake and aware.

Everyone who visits here but are not members, need to read 'The Committee of 300' by Dr John Coleman - especially chapters 11, 22 and 27.

It's all laid out for you and their agenda. This is just a small part of it.

Amanda

17th September 2014, 04:25

Sooz

17th September 2014, 07:52

KosmicKat

17th September 2014, 11:52

693

http://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10714178_1465449550410208_6895269123882529349_o.jp g

Posted on behalf of Amanda

Sooz

17th September 2014, 11:54

Hey thanks KK, but too small to read, can anyone tell me how to enlarge it?

Amanda

17th September 2014, 13:22

My deepest & heartfelt thanks to those who are following and helping out - even the above posts are a huge help as I am getting very busy now. Lots of interest and people passing on their concern and care for Fiona.

Much Peace - Amanda

Sooz

17th September 2014, 13:29

Now I can read it, I hardly know what to say.

Sooz

17th September 2014, 13:41

Is it possible to link the original source of this article? Not just the link from this forum.

Spiral

17th September 2014, 18:07

Update - I have published the press release - that is relevant to the beforeitsnews article regarding the death of Antony Kidman and his involvement with child abuse. I have published it on the facebook Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page. I am not clever with computers and do not know how to upload a document from my computer - directly into a post such as this one. It is only a one page document. My talents are elsewhere - using computers properly is a definite skill.

Please keep Fiona Barnett in your thoughts and prayers and meditations - she is the strongest woman I have ever met and extremely brave to come forward publicly.

Much Peace - while we work through this pain and chaos with dignity - Amanda

The problem that you are having on forums with this is that it is a photograph of a document, not actually a document (as in text ).

If you want to post it as text you will need to type it up in text, then copy & paste it everywhere you want it.

:ht:

Is it possible to link the original source of this article? Not just the link from this forum.

This is the original image, I don't know on what website it was originally done for; https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/s960x960/10714178_1465449550410208_6895269123882529349_o.jp g

This is the facebook page it was posted on; https://www.facebook.com/pages/Child-Abuse-Whistleblowers/1425381074417056?ref=ts&fref=ts

second doc https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10701969_1465997123688784_3091337257655384234_n.jp g?oh=68e1dec05cc9c7a99d3791b5cc502538&oe=54984A2E&__gda__=1422673943_f7b9bd01ac4836169dec3eeabb721b0 b

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10701969_1465997123688784_3091337257655384234_n.jp g?oh=68e1dec05cc9c7a99d3791b5cc502538&oe=54984A2E&__gda__=1422673943_f7b9bd01ac4836169dec3eeabb721b0 b

Amanda

18th September 2014, 09:44

Update - the second document has been uploaded to the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page as promised - with permission from Fiona- it comes with warnings. I also made two Mandatory Reports this morning at the area DOCS office - as a direct result of the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page on facebook. This update is brief as I am fatigued. Thank you everyone for keeping this thread alive and for all the positive support.

Much Peace - as we work through this chaos with dignity and as we support Fiona and other victims to let them know we care - Amanda

NB Thank you Sooz

lookbeyond

19th September 2014, 06:34

Hi Amanda, can this type of abuse happen to someone and they do not remember it? Just wondering how often this may b happening to children and they bury it in their subconscious,lb

Sooz

19th September 2014, 13:07

Hi Amanda, can this type of abuse happen to someone and they do not remember it? Just wondering how often this may b happening to children and they bury it in their subconscious,lb

Of course. Think of babies and young toddlers. Probably do not remember anything but it will be in their psyche somewhere.

I know your post was addressed to Amanda, sorry.

Sooz

19th September 2014, 13:08

This is Amanda's latest post on Face-book:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Child-Abuse-Whistleblowers/1425381074417056

Update - have spoken with Fiona and she is tired but travelling okay. She was interviewed by a national magazine today - complete with a photoshoot. I have passed on to her - all the messages of love and kindness and support. I actually read them out to her over the phone.

The journalists were surprised that Fiona did not take any offer of money for the interview. They commented that is unusual if not unique. This has only added to the authenticity of the evidence and information that Fiona has shared with the public as far as the currently interested media are concerned.

An interesting note is that the media are ready to break the story, they are completely supportive of Fiona. Journalists have to complete what is known as due diligence before they even attention a story for an interview or any other formal preparation for an article that is intended for public release.

Another interesting note with regard to the media and the Kidmans is that a number of media outlets in America have contracts with the Kidmans so they will not be publishing Fiona's story.

Apparently Sydney journalists have commented that the Kidmans are managing Fiona with a "scientology" approach - in that they are investigating Fiona and searching for any so called 'dirt' on her. I would suggest that is going to be difficult as Fiona has published her story complete with factual documentation - if that can be referred to as exposing her skeletons in the closet - then so be it. Please refer to due diligence at this stage and remember anything already published has been subjected to due diligence which is the checking of facts and the production of documents and other protocols.

During the day today - a burnt orange hatchback with the Queensland number plate 404-RNI followed Fiona all day. She was in the company of a journalist and photographer. Two of Fionas family members also witnessed the vehicle. (Photos to come later).

Apparently the occupants (security guards) of the burnt orange vehicle with the Queensland registration 404-RNI were hired by the Kidman family to follow Fiona - it had been reported by the paparazzi that the Kidmans feared Fiona was flying to Sydney to attend the funeral of Antony Kidman.

My personal comment on that information is this; how did the paparazzi know this information - all information about the interview and photoshoot was known only by a handful of people? I was sworn to secrecy and certainly did not publish any information.

Still on my personal comment regarding the above information; if the information given to the security guards was about Fiona flying to Sydney - why didn't they check the flight bookings. The fact that really makes me wonder about the security guards and the reason for their presence - is this - the interview and photoshoot were booked to proceed the day before - how could Fiona do both at once? The logistics are impossible. Me thinks someone somewhere has been telling porky pies - but this is just my intellect processing the information at hand - and - of course I am very much wanting to protect my friend from disinformation wherever I can.

Back to information relevant to the current story - Fiona is the first victim to come forward to the public - information received recently is that there is a second victim and a third person who can attest to being a witness who can confirm certain details. This is recent information and confirmation is pending but at this stage it is appearing reliable and secure.

There was some devastating news passed on to Fiona today that I will share with you, with her permission. Fiona has been informed that Antony Kidman may have committed suicide. When informed of this Fiona was reduced to tears.

For those of you who are not familiar with the Christian faith, suicide is believed to take the person to an unwanted eternity. Fiona is a dedicated Christian and as such would not wish suicide on her worst enemy.

Fiona is a sensitive person and despite the abuse she suffered at the hands of Antony Kidman she still feels for Nicole Kidman and her family. Christians are very capable of feeling empathy and for reaching a state where they can forgive. Remember this entire incident is about Fiona Barnett - proceeding through the appropriate professional agencies to seek justice for the abuse she suffered as a Child. Nothing more - nothing less.

The document evidence is proof that Fiona submitted her complaint and had it accepted before the death of Antony Kidman. The professional health agency had accepted the complaint and an official investigation had commenced. Please check the dates on the document evidence if you have any doubts.

The actual circumstances of the death of Antony Kidman are still not known. As is the way with the all media at various times, conflicting articles often mix up the truth with the untruths. I personally have read some that state car accident. some that state a fall, some that state heart attack after eating breakfast and now suicide. When the news first broke I do recall an article from an Asian ( possibly Singapore based) news outlet that Police has stated they were dealing with an unnatural death.

Until the post mortem and/or photographic evidence is made public we really cannot be sure - can we? Even I want to state may he be at Peace and may our Creator/God judge him appropriately.

Thank you again for the support for Fiona and for the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page. When you support this page you are standing shoulder to shoulder with other Child Abuse Whistleblowers and like-minded people - in an effort to protect Chldren - we are winning this battle.

Much Peace - while we work through this chaos and pain with dignity and respect - Amanda

Amanda

19th September 2014, 14:25

lookbeyond - from what I have learned on this journey - including myself - yes memories can be buried very deeply. My example is very mild in comparison to the abuse I have learned about - at high school a friend and I trusted the history teacher to get in his car - short story he drove us miles out of town to a weir for a swim and said lets go for a swim - we were both about 15 years old and said we don't have towels or swimmers and he said you don't need any. We were terrified and clung to each other as we walked away - we watched him from a distance have a nude swim and walked back as he was getting dressed. Before mobile phones and seat belts because I can still feel the upholstery on the back of my legs. Buried so deep I forgot all about it until 2011 when my journey started.

My example is mild but I swear I never told anyone and buried it. The last thing he said as he parked the car back at the school - he turned to face us from the drivers seat and told us never to tell anyone - and - I never did. Kids trust adults. I believe that memories of abuse can be buried. And from any age. I am overwhelmed by the people that have contacted me privately about their abuse.

I have set aside monday to read police statements sent to me and all sorts of information and evidence. It is unbeleivable that people are trusting me when they should be trusting the Police and Govt Child Services but the system is well and truly broken -the information and evidence at this stage all seems to be in order - told in coherent manner and credible.

I am humbled that people are trusting me. What does that say about society? A woman on the internet who shows compassion and passion to make a system that is failing actually work - is trusted before the Govt and professional authorities - is that a news story in itself.

I will push forward - this is my life purpose and I can think of no better way to spend my energy. Thank you for the kindness and support that everyone on this site has shown me & recently for my friend Fiona - she is a hero.

Much Peace - Amanda

Sooz

19th September 2014, 14:32

Hi Amanda, you are right, this is your life's purpose. You have chosen a hard road though sister.

Your graciousness and determination is an inspiration.

I think you are going win.

May the wind be at your back.

Ria

19th September 2014, 16:37

THE CHILD-RAPE ASSEMBLY LINE
IN RITUAL BATHHOUSES OF THE JEWISH ORTHODOXY, CHILDREN ARE SYSTEMATICALLY ABUSED
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11

An organisation which took a year to alert police to information about potential paedophiles in the UK is to be investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29252571

Sooz

20th September 2014, 12:54

I don't want to give any readers 'pedo fatigue', but this is another important story. Just the tip of the iceberg as normal.

I could hardly read it, but forced myself. It is brutal.

If these souls have the courage to come out and tell their story and suffer for it, the least the rest of us can do is read it and do something, however small.

Post it on forums, send to your friends and family. Wake people up to what is going on under our noses.

http://www.smh.com.au/good-weekend/a-survivor-of-a-paedophile-ring-tells-her-story-20140918-10eno2.html

Sooz

20th September 2014, 13:12

This is a video taken from the above post. This comes from the soul.

The creativity and 'rapping' of her words are borne from her experience.

This applies as much to young girls as it does to young boys.

If you have a young son, young daughter, young niece, young sister, young grand-daughter or grand-son - look out for them. Boy/girl, it doesn't matter, this crap is happening everywhere.

Extraordinary. Please watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs_sPq2Tado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs_sPq2Tado

Sooz

20th September 2014, 13:41

I've just read this whole thing again, something that disturbs me, is several times she refers being 'a point of light'.

Without trawling the net right now, doesn't a 'thousand points of light' refer to occult things? Didn't George W Bush refer to a thousand points of light in one of his speeches?

A ' thousand points of light' is also mentioned re the Castle in Belgium, Amerois....back in a minute with the link. A place where possibly the elite conduct human hunting parties? (Detailed in Fiona Barnett's account, not in Belgium, but in Australia).

Here you go, Chateau des Amerois (French for America? I dunno).

http://jandeane81.com/threads/3371-Chateau-des-Amerois-(Castle-of-the-Dark-Mother)?highlight=Amerois

Amanda

21st September 2014, 04:49

Update - the first article to be published by a news outlet - regarding the death of Antony Kidman amid Child Abuse allegations - independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/antony-kidman-dies-amidst-child-abuse-allegations,6918
I am receiving posts about links on a variety of threads - here's hoping that the article and this topic will go viral. Am keeping the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page updated for those who choose to visit the site.

Thank you for your support for Fiona and all Child Abuse victims and for keeping this page alive.

Much Peace - as we work through this chaos & pain with dignity - Amanda

Amanda

21st September 2014, 04:51

Sooz - French for America is Amerique - I suggest that Amerois is a name maybe.

Much Peace - Amanda

Calabash

22nd September 2014, 00:28

Although historic, the video below gives account of what happened to actress Samantha Morton when she was in care as a child.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geoPGZSYFXM

Ria

24th September 2014, 12:12

Former Vatican Ambassador Is Facing Sexual Abuse Trial

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/world/europe/former-vatican-ambassador-faces-child-sex-abuse-trial.html?_r=0
The Vatican said on Tuesday that it had placed under house arrest and opened criminal proceedings against one of its former ambassadors, Archbishop Jozef Wesolowski, who has been accused of sexually abusing boys he met on the street while serving in the Dominican Republic.

It is the first time the Vatican will hold a criminal trial on charges of child sexual abuse, and it comes as Pope Francis has been trying to set a new tone of rigorous attention in the long-running abuse scandal.

The case has received widespread attention in the Dominican Republic and in Mr. Wesolowski’s native Poland, and officials in both nations have sought to have him tried in their courts.

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Mr. Wesolowski is being held “in a location within the Vatican City State,” according to a statement issued by the Rev. Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman. He added that Mr. Wesolowski had presented documentation attesting to a medical condition, and was confined to house arrest after a preliminary hearing on Tuesday.

The tiny Vatican city-state has no jail facility for holding prisoners on a long-term basis. The Italian newspaper La Repubblica reported that Mr. Wesolowski had been living in a convent. A bishop from the Dominican Republic said he had spotted the former ambassador strolling along a street in Rome in June.

That was the same month that Mr. Wesolowski, who is 66 and a citizen of both the Holy See and Poland, was defrocked in a canonical church proceeding. He is appealing that decision.

Father Lombardi said the arrest and trial of Mr. Wesolowski were “a result of the express desire of the pope, so that a case so serious and delicate would be addressed without delay, with just and necessary rigor.”

The former Vatican diplomat was secretly recalled from Santo Domingo, the Dominican capital, in August 2012 after church officials in the Dominican Republic learned of allegations that Mr. Wesolowski had been picking up young shoeshine boys on the waterfront and paying them for sexual acts. The allegations came in a letter to church officials from a local deacon who was arrested while, he wrote, he was trying to procure child victims for Mr. Wesolowski.

The authorities in the Dominican Republic did not learn of the allegations until Mr. Wesolowski had left the country. The district attorney in Santo Domingo, Yeni Berenice Reynoso G�mez, said her investigators had identified at least four victims. She said it was “the most terrible case I have ever seen” because the ambassador was accused of bribing poor children for sex, offering money and, in one case, medicine to treat a child’s epilepsy.

The Vatican claimed diplomatic immunity for Mr. Wesolowski until last month, one day after The New York Times reported on the case. A spokesman for the district attorney said in an interview this month that the Dominican authorities were requesting information from the Vatican about how the extradition of Mr. Wesolowski would proceed, but that the Vatican had not yet responded.

Ria

24th September 2014, 18:36

"Archbishop says he 'wasn't sure' that it was illegal to have sex with children
The Archbishop of St. Louis, Robert Carlson, testified just last month that didn’t actually know it was illegal for priests to have sex with children."

This is laughable if it wasn't so serious.

"This, he said in an effort to explain why it was he did nothing to stop such crimes while he served as the chancellor of the St. Paul and Minneapolis archdiocese.

Carlson gave a deposition to this effect in a lawsuit that against the Minnesota archdiocese and the Diocese of Winona. The suit claims that both were responsible for, in part for crimes committed against children – and were guilty of being a public nuisance – due to their refusal to release information on abusive priests.

Today, Carlson is 69-year-old. He is facing an additional clergy abuse lawsuit in the Archdiocese of St. Louis, where he has served as archbishop since 2009.

Court documents reveal that as many as 100 priests and church employees were accused of sexual abuse and Carlson helped to cover it all up.

Now the Missouri Supreme Court has ordered the archdiocese to turn over all of the names related to these cases of abuse, under seal.

Carlson tried to defend his actions, not coming forward until compelled to under court order. In his bizarre statement in response to the Minnesota lawsuit that was filed by a man who says that he was abused by a priest since the 1970s, Carlson told the plaintiff’s attorneys that he simply didn’t know that sex with children was illegal.

“I’m not sure whether I knew it was a crime or not,” Carlson tried to convince the attorneys. “I understand today it’s a crime.”

When asked specifically if he understood it was a crime in 1984, he said “I’m not sure if I did or didn’t.”

“While not being able to recall his knowledge of the law exactly as it was many decades ago, the archbishop did make clear that he knows child sex abuse is a crime today,” spokesman Gabe Jones said of Carlson. “The question does not address the archbishop’s moral stance on the sin of pedophilia, which has been that it is a most egregious offense.”

http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/06/archbishop-claims-he-wasnt-sure-it-was-illegal-for-priests-to-have-sex-with-children/

Ria

24th September 2014, 19:19

Sex Pistols star Johnny Rotten warning about Jimmy Savile was cut by BBC
http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/07/08/sex-pistols-star-johnny-rottens-warning-about-jimmy-savile-was-cut-by-bbc/

Calabash

25th September 2014, 12:28

Like many others, I just cannot understand the WHY and WHAT the attraction is but came across an article at lunchtime today, which disturbed me a lot. I have highlighted the parts that are of particular concern to me
. . . . . . . . . . . .

Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia

Pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.

As a young boy, Paul Christiano loved the world of girls — the way they danced, how their spindly bodies tumbled in gymnastics. In adolescence, as other boys ogled classmates, he was troubled to find himself fantasizing about 7- to 11-year-olds. His desires remained stuck in time as he neared adulthood. Despite a stable home life in suburban Chicago, he was tortured by urges he knew could land him in prison.

"For having these feelings, I was destined to become a monster," he said. "I was terrified."

In 1999, Christiano was caught buying child pornography. Now 36, he said he has never molested a child, but after five years of state-ordered therapy, the attraction remains.

"These people felt they could snuff out the desire, or shame me into denying it existed," he said. "But it's as intrinsic as the next person's heterosexuality."

In the laboratory, researchers are coming to the same conclusion.

Like many forms of sexual deviance, pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a sexual orientation as immutable as heterosexuality or homosexuality. It is a deep-rooted predisposition — limited almost entirely to men — that becomes clear during puberty and does not change.

The best estimates are that between 1% and 5% of men are pedophiles, meaning that they have a dominant attraction to prepubescent children.

Not all pedophiles molest children. Nor are all child molesters pedophiles. Studies show that about half of all molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims. They often have personality disorders or violent streaks, and their victims are typically family members. By contrast, pedophiles tend to think of children as romantic partners and look beyond immediate relatives. They include chronic abusers familiar from the headlines — Catholic priests, coaches and generations of Boy Scout leaders.

Other pedophiles are "good people who are struggling," said Dr. Fred Berlin, a psychiatrist who heads the Johns Hopkins Sexual Behaviors Consultation Unit. "They're tortured souls fighting like heck not to do this. We do virtually nothing in terms of reaching out to these folks. We drive it underground."

Studying criminals

Some of the new understanding of pedophilia comes from studies done on convicted sex criminals at the Center for Mental Health and Addiction in Toronto, where researchers use a procedure known as phallometry to identify men whose peak attraction is to children.

A man sits alone in a room viewing a series of images and listening to descriptions of various sexual acts with adults and children, male and female, while wearing a device that monitors blood flow to his penis. Like men attracted to adults, nearly all pedophiles respond most strongly to one gender or the other — females far more often than males. In searching for causes of pedophilia, researchers have largely dismissed the popular belief that abuse in childhood plays an important role. Studies show that few victims grow up to be abusers, and only about a third of offenders say they were molested. Scientists at the Toronto center have uncovered a series of associations that suggest pedophilia has biological roots. Among the most compelling findings is that 30% of pedophiles are left-handed or ambidextrous, triple the general rate. Because hand dominance is established through some combination of genetics and the environment of the womb, scientists see that association as a powerful indicator that something is different about pedophiles at birth.

"The only explanation is a physiological one," said James Cantor, a leader of the research.

Researchers have also determined that pedophiles are nearly an inch shorter on average than non-pedophiles and lag behind the average IQ by 10 points — discoveries that are consistent with developmental problems, whether before birth or in childhood."

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I am concerned that in the future paedophilia will become normalised and accepted and maybe even become protected by law.
The other bit that concerns me is that 1%-5% of the population (7 billion people) = between 7,000,000 and 350,000,000 paedophiles in the world right now

I am also concerned at the lack of concern by the public which, contentiously, is reflected here on the forum. Frankly I wonder why more people don't care more when even the thought of it makes me want to scream my head off and string them all up by the nuts . . . .

Sooz

26th September 2014, 02:52

Just when I thought things could not get any crazier, they just did.

Germany wants to legalise incest. For goodness sake, what's next? Legalise paedophilia?

http://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au/news/germany-ethics-council-calls-incest-be-legalised/2398886/

Sooz

29th September 2014, 08:43

I have heard of Ted Gunderson before but never watched or read anything about him. You too might be in the same boat.

He spills it all. 2005 I think it was when this vid was produced. Just halfway through it.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but he died in suspicious circumstances?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BplUD6kQYuU#t=31

norman

29th September 2014, 12:07

Ria

29th September 2014, 16:15

Judge Mark Ciavarella Jr has been sentenced to 28 years behind bars for literally selling kids to prisons for profit.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/09/24/this-judge-sold-children-to-private-prisons-for-cash-hes-going-down-for-28-years/

Ria

29th September 2014, 16:19

Over 1,000 arrested in Europe crackdown on organized crime – Europol

European police have arrested more than 1,000 suspects in an unprecedented nine-day swoop on organized crime. At least 30 Romanian children have been saved from child traffickers and over 2,000kg of drugs have been seized.
http://rt.com/news/190272-europol-organized-crime-crackdown/

Ria

30th September 2014, 09:44

Arrested Catholic Archbishop’s computer contained over 100,000 images of children
Vatican detectives analyzing a computer used a by an archbishop arrested earlier this week discovered over 86,000 pornographic photos and 160 sexually explicit video files of children, reports the International Business Times.

According to investigators, another 45,000 pictures had been deleted.

Former Archbishop Jozef Wesolowski, 66, was arrested at the Vatican earlier this week on charges that he paid to have sex with minors when he was a papal ambassador in the Dominican Republic from 2008 to 2012.

Wesolowski is the first Vatican official to be arrested within the city state on charges of pedophilia.

The former archbishop was recalled to Rome by the Vatican last year while still a diplomat in Santo Domingo and relieved of his duties following accusations from Dominican media that he was paying for underaged sex partners.

Until earlier this week, he had been free to roam Rome, but is now being held in in a small room in the basement of the Collegio dei Penitenzieri, which hosts the Vatican’s court and military police.

Vatican authorities are now investigating if Wesolowski was part of a network of pedophiles and whether he abused children in other posts during his career.

Wesolowski previously served in South Africa, Costa Rica, Japan, Switzerland, India and Denmark.

If convicted, Wesolowski faces 12 years in jail in the first trial for sexual abuse to be held inside the Vatican City.

His trial is expected to start in January.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/arrested-catholic-archbishops-computer-contained-over-100000-images-of-children/

Sooz

30th September 2014, 09:58

As much as I love to see all this, behind the scenes I bet the royal family are throwing them all under the bus in order to save their own skins.

And changing the laws to prevent themselves being investigated.

When will THEY be investigated? If at all.

Amanda

2nd October 2014, 02:22

Wow - how fabulous to see so much information being shared via this thread. I have been ill and then busy. In short I have finally achieved the attention of the NSW Police Headquarters. Early days yet and I will share information as it becomes appropriate to do so - and - is safe to do so. Please know that I update regularly on the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page - but - I intend to update threads such as this one as soon as my health and energy and time permit. I am fully aware that this site - form the Site Owner to the members have shown me unconditional support from the beginning. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Much Peace - while we work through this pain and chaos with dignity & respect - Amanda

NB The comment about "we" drive paedophiles and predators underground - woah back a little. That is absolute propaganda - paedophiles and predators know they are a small and exclusive sub group of society - the truth be known and their identities revealed - the public would rip them limb from limb. They are underground because they know they need to be - but - that underground is no longer safe for them - the growing global community who are supporting victims - unquestioningly - is growing so fast that the cabal/illuminati/whatever are not coping anymore. Stand firm and keep your head up - our battle is showing every sign that we are winning.

Ria

2nd October 2014, 11:28

The Case Against Michael Aquino – Satanic Pedophile
by Anthony Forwood

For those who don’t know, Michael Aquino was a Psychological Warfare Specialist in the US Army from 1968 until 1990, when he was involuntarily discharged as a result of investigations into his involvement in the ritual sexual abuse of children at the Presidio Day Care Center in San Francisco. Throughout this same time, he has also been a devout satanist and self-confessed neo-Nazi. He joined Anton LaVey’s Church of Satan in 1969, staying until 1975 when he left to start his own Temple of Set, which has been in operation ever since.

Please note here that both psyops and satanism involve using many levels of deception and coercion to manipulate the perceptions of others for ulterior motives, so these are skills that Aquino is very familiar with and very comfortable in using. He is also an expert in propaganda and skilled in techniques for disseminating misinformation/disinformation, and using misdirection, confusion tactics, isolation techniques, and revisionism. Therefore, he will certainly use these skills to defend himself against the truth of his actions.
For the full story click on link,
http://exposinginfragard.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/the-case-against-michael-aquino-satanic.html

Ria

7th October 2014, 23:06

GEOFFREY DICKENS MP ON SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE,BABIES MURDERED.

Revolution SunboX
Published on Aug 10, 2014IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY FILM CLIP-the clips are from the Swedish made film "no greater evil",made in 1992,and sadly is not the best quality,but is essential listening.Child abuse campaigner Geoffrey Dickens MP,who handed his dossiers on child abuse within the establishment to Leon Brittan,and others,(dossiers which all subsequently went conveniently missing-or did they?)died in 1995. Footnote-does any one have the rest of this documentary?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qz4NmDOOuTc

Ria

8th October 2014, 20:46

Kevin Annett: Euro Police join ITCCS take down of Satanic networks in Vatican, Monarchies, Cargill

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_JChovG9M
Alfred Lambremont Webre
Kevin Annett: Euro Police join ITCCS take down of Satanic networks in Ndrangheta, Vatican, Monarchies, Cargill Corp.

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/peaceinspace/2014/09/kevin-annett-euro-police-join-itccs-take-down-of-satanic-networks-in-ndrangheta-vatican-monarchies-cargill-corp.html

Amanda

8th October 2014, 23:34

Update - I have had a problem online so I am publishing this update to set in place some guidelines for those who need clarification. I created the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page as a safe haven for both Child Abuse Whistleblowers & like-minded people to share their information and evidence - and - as a safe haven for victims to come forward.

I created a series of Notes numbered 1 to 20. You will find that by reading the numbered posts in order - you will understand the moral and legal aspects of the battle in which a Child Abuse Whistleblower engages once they commit to the battle.
I have been defamed and defiled - what's new I hear you thinking it's the internet - I expect detractors. The shills, trolls & (paid) disinformation agents gave me a difficult time in the beginning but once I started posting actual statement evidence - they all disappeared.

It seems an undesirable incident has occurred on the internet to displace the peaceful & safe haven I created & to malign my good name. I am not going to name anyone here nor am I going to engage in any arguments or mud slinging - & - certainly not on the internet.

Please refer to Post No.3 - where I introduce myself, using my full real name as well as sharing my former police registration & my current Teacher registration - all so that the public can choose to conduct their own research & learn that I am who I say I am. Even on threads I use a real aspect of my name, where it is not already taken or sometimes my old stage name Miss Amanda Manhattan. (Personal Note: When I was an operational NSW Police officer a fellow officer threatened to start calling me Constable Manhattan - thankfully common sense prevailed).

Without names - a person who claims to be an advocate for Child Abuse has published information on the internet that can be considered contempt of court as a recognised Child Abuse Whistleblower has a case currently before the court. I know the person and asked politely that the posts be removed from a thread I created. The person met my logic & manners with anger & refused & then blocked me - this occurred via private messaging on facebook. I contacted the administration of the website and requested (in writing) that the posts of the member within a particular thread of mine be deleted. If administration could/would not delete the itemised posts - could they please delete the entire thread on my behalf.

I did this weeks ago - I received no email correspondence - nothing! Today I dropped by the site to find what had happened. No deletions& my name completely defiled & maligned. The thread blocked & I have had no chance to defend myself. I was permanently banned from the site. The person in question has been banned from facebook several times. The website from which I am now banned had previously banned him. I had actually been warned about him - I can admit publicly I made a mistake & I should not have trusted that person. The person has made a mess that will actually reflect badly on himself & anyone connected to him.

This is what I did today. I notified the Child Abuse Whistleblower & told her to inform her Barrister of what had occurred. I told her to inform her Barrister that I had - in writing contacted the website & made a formal request for deleting specific items or the entire thread. Legally that protects the Child Abuse Whistleblower & myself. I placed my concerns in writing weeks ago. If people are truly concerned please contact me via private messaging & I will give you details. As far as I am concerned - all the men involved - yes sadly I have been cyber attacked by a group of men - I am here stating my side of the story & I trust that sensible, straight thinking intelligent people will conduct their own research to make up their own mind.

The lesson I have learned on facebook is to be very very very careful which groups you join. Helpful Hints: A genuine, recognised Child Abuse Whistleblower will attend Police Stations & courts & interact with professional agencies and these actions will generate official genuine documents. I currently have twelve A4 folders full of emails & documents & receipts et cetera. Genuine, recognised Child Abuse Whistleblowers collate their own information & evidence & do not "solely" rely on trawling the internet for evidence.

Be careful everyone - we live in a world where it can be difficult to trust anyone at the best of times. If you feel you want to trust me - thank you.I will not treat people like they are stupid. I will not tell you what to think or how to feel. I will continue to be as transparent in all my actions as I possibly can - the only information and/or evidence I don't share is anything currently subject to legal boundaries or confidentiality - that is essential to win a specific aspect of this battle. I share everything as it is safe to do so.

I want to be very very very clear on this, I will never name a victim online or anywhere else. I never have & will never be forced or tricked into doing that. The only victims I mention are those who have given me their express permission to do so , such as Fiona Barnett. As for the victims & witnesses who are coming forward via private messaging - your well being is my priority. Your confidence is safe with me.

For the shills, trolls & (paid) diinformation agents:

Contemnor - A person who has been found to have committed a contempt of court. (page 91)

Contempt of Court - Words or actions which interfere with the proper administration of justice or constitute a disregard for the authority of the court. (page 91)

Contempt by Publication - Publishing material that has a real tendency to interfere with or is intended to interfere with particular pending criminal or civil proceedings. (page 91)

Harm Principle - John Stuart Mill's argument that the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over nay member of a civilised community, against his or her will, is to prevent harm to others. (page 200)

Nonfeasance - the omission or failure by a person or public body to do something which that person or public body has agreed or is otherwise liable to do. (page 308)

Reference: Butterworths Concise Australian Legal Dictionary

This entire post will be placed on threads where I am trusted - without this post - read at your own choice anywhere my name is mentioned with regard to Child Abuse Whistleblowers. Some threads have been commenced on my behalf - but this post - with the legal references - signifies my actual, genuine participation within that website. If you have any concerns please contact me via private message. I would say, just ask the victims & witnesses who have already come forward but sadly you can't - I will NEVER betray their trust - NEVER!

Much Peace - while we sort through this chaos & pain with dignity & respect - logic & intellect are essential as well - Amanda

NB I am not going to fight with people on the internet - I am already fighting to protect Children & victims of Child Abuse. I still try to comprehend the fact I made it all the way to Federal Court - on my own & argued a single point of law for two days with the Catholic Barrister & his assistant. That's just one of my actions on my Child Abuse Whistleblower journey - would you have the courage to do that much? Surprise yourself - now I know I can do that, I am not done until I am done. I well may be done & standing alone or I may have company - either way I will finish what I started. I am not a quitter.

Ria

8th October 2014, 23:53

I am sorry to hear this Amanda, that your having to deal with such types.
I suppose dealing with the low life's, that have been perpetrating these crimes it's to be expected.

Ria

10th October 2014, 08:40

Court hears Ray Teret raped 15-year-old girl together with Jimmy Savile
then said 'You should be thanking us'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2783542/Former-Radio-Caroline-DJ-raped-15-year-old-girl-Jimmy-Savile-1960s.html

Calabash

10th October 2014, 20:41

Hmmm... lookbeyond said in another thread that Teret looked like a relative of Jimmy S. They look even more alike in the picture in Ria's link when they were younger. I believe they called each other "son" and "dad". Nauseating . . .

Ria

12th October 2014, 12:15

A political figure in the UK has been asked in for questioning in the in relation to historical child sex allegations involving London care homes.

The name of the individual has not been released and he has not been charged but is believed to have been in a held a senior position in the British Government and was a major figure in his political party.

http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/crime-desk/donal-macintyre-s-crime-cafe/major-political-figure-in-the-uk-questioned-on-child-sex-abuse-charges

Ria

12th October 2014, 22:23

Former BBC presenter Michael Souter jailed for 22 years for sexually abusing boys - 2013

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULTnxQjIBxA

Ria

16th October 2014, 20:54

"From my research I believe that David Bottrill is part of a devil worshipping group. The "O.T.O" was founded by Aleister Crowley known as the wickedest man in the world. No wonder this low life does not want anyone to know about the O.T.O. David Bottril is not just a part of the OTO, he is the national treasurer which leads one to wonder how sinister this man really is."
For the full article go to link;
http://www.lukesarmy.com

Ria

19th October 2014, 19:14

Author Nick Bryant talks about a notorious political paedophile ring operating in the US in the 80's

Author of the Franklin Scandal, Nick Bryant talks to Richie about paedophilia and the elite in America and why he's not surprised about it's unravelling in England

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GsoAY-Ud0eQ
Published on Oct 16, 2014

norman

23rd October 2014, 20:53

I've been having a bit of a listen to the BBC radio in the last couple of days.

I heard a snippet of news interview with the second judge they've put up to head the inquiry into the pedo thing in the government.

She believes she's a person of the people. HAH!. She's been to dinner parties with the "Britains" !.

What are these people ON!?

She was asked if she has Ben Britain's or his wife's number in her phone? She quickly said No. I don't believe that.

Ria

23rd October 2014, 20:57

Paedophile inquiry 'whitewash': Judge said Tory child sex abuse claims were “best forgotten”, claims former government lawyer
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedophile-inquiry-whitewash-judge-said-1424184
"Child sex abuse claims against a top Tory were “credible” but not investigated properly, a former government lawyer revealed yesterday.

Christopher Allen said the judge who headed an inquiry into the North Wales children’s homes scandal thought the shock accusations were “too sensitive” to be made public and “best forgotten”.

Mr Allen said the judge, Sir Ronald Waterhouse, reckoned a victim was exaggerating to increase his compensation.

Mr Allen, one of five lawyers on the inquiry in 1996, said: “I felt the allegations were credible.

"I would have loved to have seen him (the Tory) pursued because there has got to be something behind the allegations.”

In another blunder, the Tory accused of being a paedophile was said to be dead when the Waterhouse report was published in 2000 – but the unnamed Conservative aide is still alive today.

Sir Ronald, who died in May last year, also thought a second witness who backed up the Tory abuse claims was talking about someone else, it emerged yesterday.

However, the man who led an earlier probe insisted yesterday he had no recollection of allegations a senior Tory was among the child abusers of the 1970s and 1980s.

John Jillings, who carried out an investigation for Clwyd county council in 1994, said his report was pulped because the council was told by its insurers victims would be able to sue.

But he added: “I’d rather not get involved in listing names because it’s a long time behind me. They didn’t include well-known people in public life.”

Yet victim Steve Messham, who said he was regularly taken from Bryn Estyn children’s home in Wrexham to a hotel where he was sold for sexual abuse – including by a senior Tory from the Thatcher era – slammed Mr Jillings’s comments as “appalling”.

He said: “My statements have always been crystal clear. I have never hidden the fact who abused me.”

The Government this week announced two new inquiries following his fresh claims.

And another was launched yesterday into allegations Jimmy Savile abused girls at a children’s home in Jersey."

norman

23rd October 2014, 21:04

........another was launched yesterday into allegations Jimmy Savile abused girls at a children’s home in Jersey.

Well, that's a nobbled inquiry from the get go. Jimmy Savile may well have abused "girls" in Jersey, but the issue is bigger than that. What about the allegations he supplied "boys" to a very senior political figure who raped them and buried them at sea, from his yacht.

lookbeyond

23rd October 2014, 22:50

Well, that's a nobbled inquiry from the get go. Jimmy Savile may well have abused "girls" in Jersey, but the issue is bigger than that. What about the allegations he supplied "boys" to a very senior political figure who raped them and buried them at sea, from his yacht.

those poor little souls

Ria

24th October 2014, 22:03

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dbj2OXUf8w&feature=youtu.be

PaedoGate - Proofs of a Paedophile ring within royalty & government

Published on Jun 20, 2014http://gaiamilitia.wordpress.com/about/royal-politicial-paedophilia-abuse-of-national-security/

See Bill Maloney (https://www.youtube.com/user/pnmfilms)
See George Lees (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWWxsXaLlEMuvMjsjeniJ1Q)
See John Paterson (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQ3v3l0PCyMvH-V0ZSlXZg)
See Field McConnell & David Hawkins (https://www.youtube.com/user/BMHC2CSi)

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dbj2OXUf8w&feature=youtu.be

Amanda

27th October 2014, 09:17

Update - here is a current list of actions that are in place in my capacity as a recognised Australian Child Abuse Whistleblower.

1. Mandatory Reports - made on 18th September 2014 at the local DOCS office in Griffith. In the presence of the local Manager. The information and statutory declarations being provided as a direct result of the formation of the facebook Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page. Thank you to everyone.

Still waiting for correspondence - informed I will be contacted by hard copy landline correspondence. It is now over a month.

2.Department of Education & Communities - I contacted them recently as a check through my files reveals an omission on their part with regard to administrative correspondence that should have been forwarded to me in 2011. The omission was addressed and I received a response via electronic mail.

Also an investigation is currently being conducted with regard to my public actions. The investigation was commenced approximately three months ago and is still underway.

3. I have contacted local Police due to the 2011 administrative omission by the Department of Education & Communities. I have contacted local Police to ensure the information contained in the second of two Mandatory Reports I made in 2011 was actually actioned.

Have sent mail by registered post as a response from the local Police should not take too long. I phoned and ensured the senior officer involved is not on any type of leave.

4. I have received communication via an electronic response from the NSW Police Headquarters and am following administrative instructions to contact a particular Local Area Command. The administrative procedures are to ensure victims and witnesses of Crimes Against Children are addressed properly.

Synchronicity unfortunately meant I had the displeasure to receive first hand information about unprofessional and inappropriate behaviour from operational Police officers from the very Local Area Command that I am to contact - directly from a victim/witness. This is directly related to my actions as a recognised Child Abuse Whistleblower. I am not impressed I can tell you!

I am contacting the particular Local Area Command and will be making a formal complaint as well as instigating administrative procedures to assist victims and witnesses of Crimes Against Children. To be fair to all involved I will wait to reveal the name of the Local Area Command for the moment. I will reveal the name of the Local Area Command in the near future as an adjunct to advertising the area - with the express purpose of allowing victims and witnesses to come forward. There are currently two victims with a possible third and fourth. More details as it is safe and appropriate.

5. Please visit the policeleaksaustralia page on facebook to view the lesson plan I created - to help people learn how to write a proper complaint. There is an introduction to explain what I have planned and some learning resources to help you.It is a little lengthy but it is designed to show you what you need in order to get your complaint addressed properly. Included is an actual current complaint addressed to a Local Area Police Commander with all identities withheld.

Also preparing for a court appearance - to assist a person with regards to an incident where Children were psychologically harmed during an incident via the unexpected presence of an authority figure.

Much Peace - heartfelt thank you for the huge underground following and the visible following please know I could not do this without your support - Amanda

NB: Still waiting to hear from the legal team that is representing the local Catholic School. No correspondence at all.

(This information is available on the facebook Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page as I understand that not everyone is connected to social media.)

Ria

28th October 2014, 21:18

Brian Gerrish: British Government is trying to cover-up Westminster links to child abuse

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYKfcymRao

Ria

29th October 2014, 19:32

Switzerland's shame: The children used as cheap farm labour

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29765623

norman

29th October 2014, 22:27

More than 3,000 children reported missing in Greater Manchester this year, report reveals:

http://www.newsnorthwest.org.uk/news/more-than-3000-children-reported-missing-in-greater-manchester-this-year-report-reveals

Ria

4th November 2014, 18:49

Labour MP links Leon Brittan to 80s child abuse claims: Amid row over historic sex crimes inquiry, former Home Secretary named in Commons
Jim Hood used miners strike debate to level allegations against Lord Brittan
Business minister Matthew Hancock blasts the remarks as 'disgusting'
MPs comments are protected from slander and contempt of court laws
By DANIEL MARTIN FOR THE DAILY MAIL

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2811776/Labour-MP-links-Leon-Brittan-80s-child-abuse-claims-Amid-row-historic-sex-crimes-inquiry-former-Home-Secretary-named-Commons.html#ixzz3I8BppLY8

Calabash

10th November 2014, 18:56

This is part 1 of Teal Swan's story. Parts 2 and 3 are on You Tube. Teal Swan is (maybe) better known for her spiritual videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVpsMBeTjHY

Ria

12th November 2014, 20:42

Tiffany Fontenot
9 November at 18:56 � Edited �
ANOTHER REMINDER TO OUR WHITEHAT POPULATION TO GET TAPE AND GET COPIES IN MULTIPLE PLACES!!!
Allegations raised during British question time back in 2012 linked a powerful paedophile ring to UK Parliament and Number 10. The question is posed and David Cameron responds. Video is under one min. This was published in 2012, but I was interested in David Cameron's follow up to this and found a couple articles. Looks like it's being stonewalled and whitewashed...Here is a quote from one of the articles, "David Cameron asked Mark Sedwill, Home Office permanent secretary, to investigate the claims. Days later, Sedwill revealed that an investigation had already taken place last year within the Home Office and found that 114 files relating to historic allegations of child sex abuse, from between 1979 and 1999, had disappeared from the department.
What was in the missing documents?
The file compiled by Dickens named eight leading figures from public life, including senior politicians, who were said to be paedophiles "operating and networking within and around" the Westminster elite, reports The Sunday Times. It was believed to have named Sir Cyril Smith, the late Rochdale MP, Jimmy Savile and Sir Peter Morrison, Margaret Thatcher's former parliamentary private secretary. Police have reportedly compiled a list of more than ten politicians, including past and present MPs or peers from the three main parties. One former child protection manager, Peter McKelvie, believes there were "upwards of 20" top figures involved, with a "much larger number of people who have known about it and done nothing about it".
Full article here:
http://www.theweek.co.uk/…/review-fails-to-find-explosive-d…
AND HERE IS ANOTHER GOOD ARTICLE:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/…/mp-tom-watson-tells-cameron-38181…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1D1ZgUCn-Q

Ria

12th November 2014, 21:32

John Paterson

Did you know who hides behind those barriers outside Number 10 Downing Street?
Certainly Steve Morgan, under his guise of Dick Shaver & the Hollow Earth Insiders,who has given us a list of transgressors in this field, believes we are ruled by a private club of perverts and rapists, he names and describes the personal perversities of some of them and in no particular order they are:-
Lord Graville Jenner (Labour Peer) – Young boys.
Lord Gerald Kaufman (Labour Peer) – Young boys under 12.
Lord Leon Britton (Conservative Peer) _ Raping young boys.
Gordon Brown (British Prime Minister) – Young boys and girls
Anthony Charles Lynton Blair (Former British Prime Minister) – Importuning in public toilets
Edward Heath (Former Conservative British Prime Minister) – Young boys
Lord Robertson (Former head of NATO and Labour Cabinet Minister) – Young boys
Lord Hardy (Former Lord Advocate of Scotland) – Young boys
Lord McAlpine (Conservative Lord) – Young boys
Michael Portillo (Former Conservative MP) – Children and adults especially Peter Lilley
Peter Lilley (Conservative MP) – Young children and adults especially Michael Portillo
Sir Jimmy Saville (Entertainer and Disc Jockey) – Supplying young children and adults for the above
We have come a long way from Hollie Greig and her abuse is still with us so let us join with Robert Green in asking for a public enquiry. The problem is who chooses the panel because we know what happened at the Dunblane enquiry led by Lord Cullen and the Hutton report into the death of Dr David Kelly. We are not going to let them sweep Hollie under the carpet for a hundred years.
The establishment will never allow an enquiry board picked by outsiders, so stalemate. It is time for action. Both Labour and Conservative have failed us on this topic. We have to look elsewhere or perhaps have a revolution.
For those that want to read more about Peodophilia and the Hollie Greig case you can few the many articles I have written on Hollie at the following link which also reveals some more names: www.eyreinternational.wordpress.com

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152794981062593&set=gm.716451698442874&type=1&theater

Photos from John Paterson's post in ITCCS.ORG - Kevin Annett
Did you know who hides behind those barriers outside Number 10 Downing Street? Certainly Steve Morg..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/home-secretary-theresa-admits-its-4611369

Amanda

5th December 2014, 03:06

Thought I would add this update - as this is an established thread and for those who have been following my Child Abuse Whistleblower journey, I have been quiet due to having crashed and burned so I am placing a focus on my health. What happened today fits the pattern for abuse against Mandatory Reporters and Child Abuse Wihstleblowers & I post for insurance. This exact update is posted on the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page on facebook.

Update - Today shortly before 11.49 am I was in my home and heard my landline phone ring once and it stopped before I could pick up the handset.

At approximately 11.49 am the phone rang again and I was by now standing near the landline - I picked up the handset.

A voice I thought to be female spoke to me and I don't recall her exact first sentence as I was somewhat shocked because I did not recognise the voice at all. Since 2011 I have interacted with a variety of professional agencies and the person ALWAYS identifies themself as soon as I have picked up the handset. I quickly gathered my senses and asked her to identify herself.

I politely asked several times - "Who am I speaking with?" She refused to answer my repeated attempts to ascertain her identity.

I maintained my calm demeanour and repeatedly asked her to please identify herself and I added the question; "How do you come to have my silent phone number?"

I asked these two questions repeatedly and maintained a calm demeanour. The unidentified voice/person who I thought to be female sounded as though she was becoming agitated and angry. She mentioned that legal action was being taken against me several times and added the question, each time; "Did I want the paperwork sent to my email address?"

I only asked of the voice/person I thought to be female two questions; "Who am I speaking with? and How did you come to have my silent phone number?"

She refused to answer my questions - became agitated and angry and stated something about sending something to my email address. She hung up abruptly without warning.

My phone rang again at 12.13 pm and again at 12.20 pm and I refused to pick up the handset - I now feel threatened and intimidated by the voice/person who has contacted me in my home via my silent landline and refusing to identify herself.

I want to state here very clearly that I DO NOT make my silent phone number available to the public. I DO NOT make my private email address available to the pubic.

I will be posting this information not just on the facebook Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page - I will also be posting it on all other long term threads on the worldwideweb as a security measure.

I will check my email to see whether I have received anything. This post is made in the form of contemporaneous notes and now forms evidence as a legal recount made at the time of the event or shortly after. If need be I can subpoena telephone records to ascertain where the phone call from the unidentified voice/female emanated.

Thank you everyone for your continuing support. Much Peace - Amanda

NB: It is now 12.55 pm and I have checked my personal email twice and nothing has been received. I will now place this exact post on all other threads on the worldwideweb including one of which is an underground forum that has private restricted membership - by invitation only.

Sooz

5th December 2014, 09:22

Sooz

5th December 2014, 09:33

This is another story of sexual child abuse, very close to home for me here in Oz.

'Spiritual people' are sometimes not as they seem.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/violent-discipline-part-of-yoga-culture-royal-commission-hears-20141205-120qm8.html

Calabash

5th December 2014, 11:45

Thanks Sooz - I also heard (a few years ago) that Sai Baba was also not what he seemed. What a pity that all these people just look like everybody else. The vulnerable don't stand a chance. All paedophiles should be branded on the forehead with the letter "P" after their first offence. . .

lookbeyond

6th December 2014, 00:25

Hi Amanda, i hope you hav people that can be with you to offer moral support ( not just online, tho this is also very comforting)during this extra difficult period, hoping you hav some fun and laughter over the xmas period also, so that you may recharge your batteries for the year ahead, lookbeyond

Amanda

10th December 2014, 04:22

lookbeyond - thank you for your kind words of support and care. I have a plan to tidy up all current correspondence before the end of the year so that I can relax for a little while. I have friends and although I need to relax more often than I do - I do try to pray and meditate each day. Much Peace - Amanda ( NB Will be adding an update shortly)

Amanda

10th December 2014, 05:53

For those who are following this established thread and for those who have just joined in - I have an update to share.

Update - I have (finally) received two written responses to the two Mandatory Reports that I made two and a half months ago - as a result of the support I have received via the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page.

The first one - all I can say - without overstepping boundaries of confidentiality - is that the issue has been addressed by means of referral to the (location) Community Services Centre for triage and assessment.

What does this tell us - the phone line employees did not ignore the Mandatory Report and have passed it on to a local agency. If you are shaking your head at this one - so am I.

Here's the breakdown - I ring a centralised helpline to have the matter referred back to where the matter is located. The fact of the matter is this;

Why did I have to become public and become a recognised Child Abuse Whistleblower for the matter to be addressed at all?? The matter involves a school.

To refresh the memory of people and for the benefit of those who may be new to the subject of Mandatory Reports;

Every employee of every school in NSW Australia is a Mandatory Reporter. Every employee is mandated by LAW to make a Mandatory Report and if you are found to have not made a Mandatory Report then you are committing a crime that awards the penalties of huge fines and or a custodial sentence. This includes the executive staff - who have a responsibility to ensure that the appropriate professional agencies are fully informed as to the incident/s being reported.

Please refer to other states to ensure the legislation is the same - I reference NSW Australia because that is the state that is relevant to my professional training.

The second Mandatory Report is not so simple. The third sentence reads exactly like this;

"The information you provided has been assessed and a decision has been made that it does not meet the statutory reporting threshold of 'risk of significant harm'."

I will share with you a brief overview of the information - with no identifiers.

A Teacher holds a party at her house with only students. The Teacher commences sexual activity with a just of age ex-student in full view of the others in attendance. The students then have to attend school with the Teacher instructing them as their regular Teacher.

Included in this scenario is the partner of the just of age ex-student who engaged in the sexual activity. The partner has to attend school and sit in classes and be instructed by the Teacher who organised the party and commenced sex with the just of age ex-student.

Two in attendance at the party phoned the partner to advise what was happening. The partner arrives in time to see the Teacher passed out in her bed and a used condom next to the bed.

The Teacher involved in this situation was shortly afterwards promoted to an executive position. There is much more I could add but I want to tread carefully with regard to legal boundaries. Even though there is no Child Abuse Whistleblower legislation - hopefully my CAREFUL actions will lead to the creation of Child Abuse Whistleblower legislation - that is the aim.

I know we have ample legislation - but - I am working with the paradigm in which we live and legislation provides the tools with which we make change.

The next step here is that I will do two things. I will compose correspondence and request an explanation as to why I was not delivered of a written reply - as per legal requirements. The fact it was two and a half months and I had not received any correspondence is of concern. I am also concerned that I had to contact the government department to actually request the required correspondence.

I will also contact the NSW Ombudsman and other professional agencies and ask why the second Mandatory Report failed to meet the requirements for Risk of Significant Harm - that way we can understand the situation a little better. Peaceful research and answers from the professional agencies who are tasked with managing Crimes Against Children may help us make change to better protect your Children.

Remember people - it is you who goes to work and pay the taxes that fund the professional agencies who are responsible for the Care of All Children.

Before the end of the day I will be providing an update via the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page on facebook about the recent phone call incident - as recorded on the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page and elsewhere. It is an eye-opener that's for sure.

Thank you - thank you - thank you - thank you for all the continuing support I am receiving. Out in public - the comments about how everyone is reading the updates and information contained within the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page is very uplifting.

To all the people who have made contact with me via personal messages here and via other methods - I will get back to you. I am overwhelmed by the support and flow of information that is being shared - thank you for trusting me. We will make change of this I am very sure.

Much Peace - Amanda

Sooz

10th December 2014, 10:06

Bump...

Amanda

3rd January 2015, 01:12

All regular viewers and newcomers - please know that all documents that have no legal boundaries are published on the faceache oops facebook Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page. When someone can teach me how to upload documents from my computer directly to this thread - I am willing to publish them direct to this thread. My talents are not with technology so any instruction on matters of using technology are always gratefully accepted by me. Huge thank you to the Site Owner and Moderators who have let me establish this thread - I am truly grateful. As a side note I have established threads on four wed forums - there would be more only some sites do not permit me to speak freely. Things that make you go hmmm....

Update - A list of all the actions that will bring about professional responses from agencies that have been contacted in recent months. In the coming months of 2015 I am seeing the potential for answers to the many legal questions that have been posed.

1. The multiple professional agency correspondence as a result of two Mandatory Reports made a few months ago. One Mandatory Report is being actioned and as an adjunct to protecting the identity of the victim - that seems to be okay. The second Mandatory Report however has some unanswered questions as to mandated administrative "omissions" and I am keen to see these "omissions" addressed and investigated.

The professional agencies are;

Honourable Brad Hazzard MP - Minister for Justice
Honourable Adrian Piccoli MP - Minister for Education
Kelvin Simon Manager - Child Protection NSW Ombudsman
Sandy Chan Acting Manager - Department of Family & Community Services

2. Even without all the details the second multiple professional agency correspondence that is relevant to a Police complaint investigation. The investigation also seems to have some "omissions" and I am keen to receive answers to questions I posed that are based in legal and administrative procedure.

The professional agencies are;

Honourable Stuart Ayres MP - NSW Minister for Police
Andrew Scipione AM - NSW Police Commissioner
Bruce Barbour - NSW Ombudsman
S. Wilkins Superintendent - Local Area Commander Tweed Heads

3. One senior Police officer is addressing a complaint from a victim. The same officer will then address other issues. I stated that given the enormity of the issues faced with all manner of Child Abuse and the organised ritual Child Abuse - it is best to address one issue at a time - he did not disagree with me.

When the senior NSW Police officer and victim have addressed the complaint I will advertise the LAC (Local Area Command) as that is an area where several victims have been subjected to abuse. If you are not aware - all crime is investigated where it occurred - at least in the initial stages.

4. I have one outstanding matter that is directly relevant to a particular professional agency - this is where the destruction to my life really took hold. I will give the professional agency time to manage the situation and will put a hold on publishing my legal recount/book on line. I may publish some select chapters in the interim.

Thank you again for all the support - online - on the street - to the huge underground following and to all those who guide us in Spirit.

My intention is take January as a month to attend to my health. I do have over 300 messages to address and I will be very careful. As I have stated several times I will get back to everyone - January is when I intend to communicate. I trust I have established a Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page that is insightful and helpful and a place to find some comfort should you be a victim or witness. Many people care about Child Abuse and finding a solution so that we can all heal.

Let's stay calm as we work our way through the chaos and pain with dignity and respect. Much Peace - Amanda.

NB: I am looking forward to browsing the forums in the coming weeks.

norman

3rd January 2015, 01:27

My intention is take January as a month to attend to my health.

Hi, Amanda, if you have time to check back here, make January your month for a massive intake of Vitamin C ( for starters ). I've been doing it for only 2 weeks and I'm AMAZED by the effect.

IF you don't know already, Vit c comes in a few forms.

Ascorbic Acid ( the pure/raw form )

Sodium Ascorbate ( the more gut friendly version that super athletes consume in very large doses )

Magnesium Ascorbate ( ok - ish but not really recommended by myself for a couple of reasons )

Calcium Ascorbate ( I don't think this version is even safe, long term - Calcium isn't good in the flesh, and the argument for sustaining bones falls apart when you study it heavily )

Anyhoo, hope you get a lot of great nourishment and NOT "Doctor's" prescriptions.

norman

6th January 2015, 15:44

I posted a video of a Fritz Springmeier interview on the illuminati thread but it probably wont get noticed much there.

It can be found by clicking this link:

http://jandeane81.com/threads/1873-Illuminati?p=841892751&viewfull=1#post841892751

Fritz is very knowledgeable about them and sets it all out very well.

Amanda

9th January 2015, 23:15

Tank you Norman - I am already well acquainted with ascorbic acid. I can actually tell how I am coping with the external stressors by how much I need. I cannot always afford to take all the vitamins I need but I know the difference when I resume taking them -vitamins work!

For anyone on a stressful journey - particularly where you are fighting the systems to gain any type of justice - take care of your health it is the first thing to be destroyed. If I knew now what I knew at the commencement of this journey I would have stayed above the stress although it is easier said than done.

Thank you Norman and everyone for supporting this thread - and - in doing so supporting the victims and witnesses of Child Abuse. We are winning. Much Peace - Amanda

lookbeyond

9th January 2015, 23:37

Hi, Amanda, if you have time to check back here, make January your month for a massive intake of Vitamin C ( for starters ). I've been doing it for only 2 weeks and I'm AMAZED by the effect.

IF you don't know already, Vit c comes in a few forms.

Ascorbic Acid ( the pure/raw form )

Sodium Ascorbate ( the more gut friendly version that super athletes consume in very large doses )

Magnesium Ascorbate ( ok - ish but not really recommended by myself for a couple of reasons )

Calcium Ascorbate ( I don't think this version is even safe, long term - Calcium isn't good in the flesh, and the argument for sustaining bones falls apart when you study it heavily )

Anyhoo, hope you get a lot of great nourishment and NOT "Doctor's" prescriptions.

Hi Norman, are you able to say why you dont think Ca Ascorbate is safe? thanks as im using ATM,lb

norman

10th January 2015, 03:31

Calcium causes problems, mainly in the cardiovascular system, because it usually doesn't get absorbed properly, i.e. bones and teeth etc.

Calcium needs to be taken ( if you need it ) as part of a trio of - Calcium, Magnesium and Vitamin D. If they are all present at the same time in the same place, they work together to get to the right places. Of course, a dose of sunshine will suffice for the vitamin D, that is made from the cholesterol in the skin helping with cholesterol issues at the same time.

When treating yourself with very high doses of Vitamin C, for therapeutic reasons, The calcium bonded form will add a lot of unwanted calcium.

I've recently learned that another problematic 'supplement' is anything that includes iron, especially for men who tend to accumulate iron as they get older and become quite toxic with it.

I'm only getting started with my research into this stuff. If others here can educate wisely about these things, I'm all ears.

lookbeyond

10th January 2015, 04:39

thx Norman, one more question and then will take it outside the thread (sorry off topic OP)- do you find any problem with 1000mg or less daily in normal healthy adult ie not high dosing Ca ascorbate, lb

Amanda

10th January 2015, 07:14

Great to see the topic of vitamin intake - and - don't be too concerned about health issues being discussed in a Child Abuse thread - victims and witnesses can learn about their health in the same thread as learning they are supported. Just to weigh in - although still wanting to hear what Norman has to offer - Calcium tablets are not always worth taking - a friend of mine advised me that only certain brands actually contain what they state on the label. I have however taken A vitamin D and calcium combination while taking a lot of magnesium.

For victims and witnesses of Child Abuse and everyone else who is fighting external stressors - magnesium is the vitamin I recommend even if you cannot afford others. Magnesium assists with keeping muscles healthy and that is where stress can accumulate. Also consider taking zinc - I always took zinc having learned it was for healing and keeping hair/nails/skin healthy. Recently I learned that zinc is found in every cell in our body - as it is relatively inexpensive and I am suffering enormous stress - I upped my intake to seven every day and have gradually reduced it when the effects kick in. Executive B is great for energy - seems to be a good combination when taken daily with daily does of ascorbic acid if you are well but looking to increase your energy.

To survive Child Abuse you need to take care of your health and to each and every victim - please consider vitamins when researching ways to help your physical and mental health. Thank you everyone for keeping this thread alive. Much Peace - Amanda

Calabash

11th January 2015, 15:00

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/westminster-paedophile-ring-top-tory-4957409
See link above for headline news in the mirror online - and also the newspaper The Sunday People today. This is not going away. I heard before Christmas that a prominent serving politician would be named in the New Year. I also notice that the whistleblowers are taking pseudonyms to protect their identity, but they should know that given the people they are dealing with there is no hiding place and they can (and probably will) be tracked. Far better to come out into the public arena, like Ben Fellowes for instance, where their sudden disappearance would be noticed.

Amanda

12th January 2015, 00:55

Calabash - this is exactly why I have used my real name from the onset. When you fight with honesty and it is turned against you - what can it possibly do? Also the issue of being my being harmed has been a real threat at various times - loads of documents held in trust that will be published in the event any harm comes to me. I have one group who all have a copy of my legal recount - one hundred thousand people - that is just ONE example of how prepared I am.

And I will gladly continue this battle in Spirit if need be. I will not be stopped - I will be done when I am done. I learned how to protect myself from Dr Reina Michealson - the Police could not protect her so I learned from her - took the relay baton so to speak. It is all fizzing up to the surface and yes Calabash you are right - it is not going away.

Much Peace - while we work our way through this chaos and pain with dignity and respect - Amanda

Amanda

13th January 2015, 22:49

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-osofNKORI

I don't normally supply videos within my posts - but - this one is very interesting and I thought people might like to view it before it is taken down. I was informed that it may be taken down. Very thought provoking four minutes and certainly fits the pattern.

Much Peace - Amanda

norman

13th January 2015, 22:51

It says it's not available in this country because of a defamation complaint ( UK )

Sooz

14th January 2015, 01:36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-osofNKORI

It's available here in Oz. Norman, try googling the title, 'Elite Pedophilia Ring on Private Network Exposed: The Groucho Club'

I think I've seen it on the forum before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-osofNKORI

Ria

15th January 2015, 08:17

Institutional Pedophile rings operating in this country now UK
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=em-uploademail&v=FUJuvYFlOKQ

Sooz

15th January 2015, 08:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLK03KK1dSg

Thanks Ria. Found this also. Short history (3 mins) of child abuse for last 2000 years in the Catholic Church. Short and profound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLK03KK1dSg

Calabash

15th January 2015, 11:26

Institutional Pedophile rings operating in this country now UK

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=em-uploademail&v=FUJuvYFlOKQ

This is good Ria and is a short current video of Bill Maloney/others captured by our popular London Cabbie. They're just keeping it current. All these wonderful people need our support. I am taking the liberty of inserting it as a video and not an image with thanks to Ria. (you selected the wrong icon sweetie :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=em-uploademail&v=FUJuvYFlOKQ&app=desktop

KINGSTON FRIZZ

15th January 2015, 15:52

Now this is as creep as hell. make of it what you will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YaSlSaNvCc

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/video-joe-biden-is-that-creepy-uncle-you-avoided-at-family-reunions-as-a-kid_012015

If you had a chance to watch the senatorial swearing-in ceremonies last week on CSPAN (like hardly anyone did), you may have noticed how utterly creepy Vice President Joe Biden acted around people’s children.

The whole overly touchy-feely scene, now dubbed “going Biden” in the media — as if giving it a cutesy name makes it okay or any less creepy — was questioned in several news outlets including The Christian Science Monitor who asked, “Joe Biden swearing-in behavior: Kindly or creepy?”

In fact, creepy was the word-of-the-day that day.

“It’s not that big of a deal, I guess, but it got kind of creepy,” Mollie Hemingway at The Federalist wrote. Lots of people who watched the ceremony unfold agreed with her.

BiZ Pac Review went with “Video: Creepy ‘Uncle Joe’ Biden gets way too friendly with senator’s young daughter”

Mary Katharine Ham wrote, “I know he has a voting record and a party identification that make this kind of behavior suddenly charming and eccentric instead of creepy,” in Hot Air’s “Can we talk about how Vice President Joe Biden is being inappropriate?”

At one point, Biden was whispering something to Sen. Chris Coons’ (D-Del) 13-year-old daughter really close and she pulled away when he went in for a kiss on her cheek.

It got so creepy and that creepy got so much coverage that Senator Coons had to publicly address it:

Obviously they want damage control, because the Senator’s response story that this wasn’t creepy peppered every mainstream outlet, getting more media coverage than the original creepy story itself.

All due respect Senator, but the video says otherwise and obviously if enough people felt it was creepy that you had to publicly address it in the mainstream media, that speaks volumes. The video speaks for itself. Your daughter didn’t even want to stand by our Vice President in the first place…

But it wasn’t just Coons’ daughter that got creeped on. Watch the video below.

Other highlights include always making basically every little kid stand right directly in front of him even when they wanted to stand somewhere else, telling several daughters “No serious guys till you’re 30,” and calling everyone “baby.”

He even seemed to creep out one Senator’s mom after leaning in real close and touching her face.

“I like kids better than people,” Biden exclaimed at one point.

Joe Biden is like that creepy uncle you avoided at family reunions as a kid. Seriously.

Not sure what else to say other than, “This is your Vice President, America.”

To watch the full swearing covered by CSPAN, check out this video Mox News aptly titled, “Starring JOE BIDEN! As Your Creepy Uncle That Wont Stop Touching You!”

Just…

Ew.

Calabash

15th January 2015, 21:45

Thanks KF - and while on the subject, let us not forget the reason that George Green gave for leaving his peer group - and that was when Teddy Kennedy told George Green he was going to have his way with his daughter.

Here's a quote from the transcript taken from the Project Camelot library website and acknowledged with thanks:

"So, I sat down with Ted Kennedy, and Ted was right next to me. And he said, "George, you're going to love this job. We're going to send you out to all the state Democratic functions. You're really good with money, and you raise money for the National Democratic Party.” And he said, "Then you're going to meet some real foxy ladies."

Well, they all think that way, frankly. It isn't just Ted, they all do. So I... and just coincidentally, my daughter walks in. Now, my daughter is a very attractive young lady.

Ted goes, "Wow, I have to go to bed with that."

And I said, "No, Ted. That's my daughter and she's fourteen."
His response back to me: "I don't care."

That's when everything kind of stopped to me. I mean, I go, wait a minute. I gave him the guidelines. I mean, I know how he thought. But when he said he didn't care what I thought about it, then I just said, that's enough."

PS: Without wishing to cast too many aspersions, while I have sympathy for George and admire his integrity, I wonder whether this was his first introduction to what they were really like and, if it hadn't been his daughter and somebody else's, would he have gone along with it as his previous comments suggest? Just food for thought . . . .

norman

15th January 2015, 21:54

I'd forgotten about that.

Amanda

16th January 2015, 05:59

Thank you to everyone for giving this thread life and contributing and reading - heartfelt thank you. I have an update and as I cannot upload documents from my personal computer I will type out the text. Those of you with access to faceache woops facebook will know that I posted an update, where I shared information about correspondence I had sent to four professional agencies - posted on 24th December 2014. Today I received a response in the form of an email.

Subject: RE: Your concerns relating to an investigation by the Tweed Heads Police.

Dear Ms Prosser

I refer to your correspondence to the NSW Commissioner of Police, dated 22 December 2014, regarding your concerns relating to an investigation by the Tweed Heads Police. I wish to acknowledge receipt of your correspondence on behalf of the Office of the Commissioner under reference number D/****/*****.

The matter has been referred to the relevant command within the NSW Police Force for appropriate attention.

This is an electronic acknowledgement, a response is not required.

Regards,

Sarah Wooster/Correspondence Manager/Secretariat
Office of the Commissioner of Police
Police Executive Offices
(This email and any attachments may be confidential and contain privileged information). Note - I see the word - may - and conclude as a recognised Child Abuse Whistleblower who is sharing information with the public as a public service that the information is not confidential. I have censored private and/or personal information and as such see no lawful reason not to share the contents.

This is my response;

Subject: Amanda Prosser Reference D/****/*****

***** ******** - Will you please forward this electronic mail to Sarah Wooster on my behalf as a professional courtesy? Thank you.

Sarah Wooster
Correspondence Manager - Secretariat
Office of the Commissioner of Police
Police Executive Offices

Thank you for the brief email of receipt received by me - this date - 16th January 2015 at 9.38 am. The matter has been referred to the relevant command within the NSW Police Force for appropriate attention." I have questions with regard to your electronic communication and that is to which relevant command do you refer? My understanding is that as author of the originating correspondence for the referenced matter, I have a lawful right to be fully informed of the administrative procedures that are imposed on the matter. My understanding is that I have a lawful right to be informed of which relevant command now has administrative jurisdiction and the name of the commanding officer who has been given carriage of the matter. If there is a lawful excuse for excluding me from the administrative procedures and the name of the relevant command and the name of the officer with carriage of the matter - can you please supply me with such legislation. Thank you.

I thank you for providing me with this opportunity to correspond with you on a professional level and I await your answers to the questions I have posed.

Respectfully

Amanda Prosser

NB: I prefer the title Miss or no title at all. I find the assumption of Ms offensive but that is in no way a personal reflection upon you as the author of the electronic mail sent to me - I fully understand your professional development is the reason you assume the title of Ms. I am not offended by your authorship on any level. Thank you for addressing this issue with regard to further communications.

Well people - let's see what happens. At least the complaint has been actioned and this may very well be a step forward. Thank you again for all the continuing support - I am truly grateful. Much Peace - Amanda

Ria

20th January 2015, 14:52

Children's homes were 'supply line' for paedophiles, says ex-minister
Lord Warner says an inquiry he conducted in 1992 showed how children's homes were targeted by powerfu
Miliband: 'government slow and piecemeal' over child abuse inquiry
Powerful people in the 1980s targeted children's homes that served as a "supply line" for paedophiles, a former health minister has claimed.

As a former child protection manager warned that a "powerful elite" of at least 20 prominent figures carried out the "worst form of abuse", the former health minister Lord Warner described the sexual abuse of children as a "power drive".

Warner, a health minister in 2003-07 who conducted an inquiry into child abuse in Birmingham in 1992, spoke out after the home secretary, Theresa May, announced a national inquiry into how the authorities may have ignored child abuse at Westminster.

The Labour leader, Ed Miliband, said the government's approach had been dilatory and piecemeal. He said: "The inquiry needs to recommend child protection measures for the future. If the government does all those things, we will support them."

He said: "They have been slow and piecemeal getting to this point. I think victims and others need to be able to give testimony and give their evidence.

"It is vital that the inquiry is sufficiently comprehensive and over-arching. The important thing is to get at the truth to get at justice, to get what happened in institutions, and to get the right answers for the future. The appalling examples of child protection abuse we have seen must never be allowed to happen again."

MPs on the home affairs select committee will question Mark Sedwill, the home office's permanent secretary, on Tuesday afternoon over the loss of 114 potentially relevant files on child abuse dating back to the 1980s.

Lord Warner
Lord Warner, the former health minister. Photograph: Graham Turner for the Guardian
Warner said his inquiry in 1992 showed how children's homes were targeted by powerful paedophiles. He told the Today programme on BBC Radio 4: "Some of these children's homes were targeted by people in power, powerful people. Indeed, sexual abuse of children is a power drive. That's what a lot of it is about.

"It is possible that people who were authoritative, powerful in particular communities did sometimes have access to children's homes. We know for historical purposes that children's homes were a supply line sometimes."

Warner, a director of social services in Kent in the 1980s, said insufficient action was taken to deal with child abuse in that decade because there was "disbelief in the public mind".

He said: "It is pretty distasteful stuff. Society has found it difficult to come to terms with this … We still had an air of deference about people in authority.

"A cover-up means something is very organised. I think much more of this is about people being insensitive to some of these concerns and not being as preoccupied with protecting vulnerable people – children and adults."

Peter McKelvie, a former child protection manager whose allegations about child abuse led to a police inquiry in 2012, claimed that at least 20 prominent people abused children.

McKelvie told BBC2's Newsnight: "I believe that there is strong evidence – and an awful lot of information that can be converted into evidence if it is investigated properly – that there has been an extremely powerful elite amongst the highest levels of the political classes for as long as I am alive, and I am 65.

"There has been sufficient reason to investigate it over and over again, certainly for the last 30 years. There has always been the block and the cover-up and the collusion to prevent that happening."

He added: "For the first time I have got a belief that survivors will come forward and justice will be served for a lot of survivors. Unfortunately it has been left so late that a lot of the abusers are now dead.

"We are looking at the Lords, we are looking at the Commons, we are looking at the judiciary, we are looking at all institutions where there will be a small percentage of paedophiles and a slightly larger percentage of people who have known about it but have felt that in terms of their own self-interest and self-preservation and for political party reasons it's been safer for them to cover it up rather than deal with it."

McKelvie, who served as a child protection manager in Hereford and Worcester, worked on the conviction of Peter Righton, a founding member of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE). Righton, who has since died, was convicted of importing child pornography. McKelvie told police in 2012 that West Mercia police had seven boxes of evidence including letters between Righton and other alleged paedophiles.

On Monday, May told the Commons she was establishing a public inquiry into how complaints of sexual abuse were treated, and sometimes ignored, in public bodies over several decades.

Ministers had been holding out against such a sweeping inquiry, but, facing charges of an establishment cover-up, succumbed and promised there would be no no-go areas for the investigation.

The inquiry will be able to examine the files of the security services and allegations that the Tory whips' office in the 1970s may have suppressed allegations of child abuse by members of the parliamentary party. It is also expected to take some evidence from victims.

Labour MPs pointed to a 1985 BBC documentary in which a former government whip between 1970 and 1973 said the Tory whips' office, when faced by an MP involved in "a scandal with small boys", would get him out of trouble, partly so the MP then felt obliged in the future to carry out the bidding of the whips.

May said she would look at plans, backed in principle by the Labour MP Tom Watson, to require public servants to report allegations of child abuse to officials in a form of mandatory whistleblowing. A duty to report would place some form of culpability on a public official if they knowingly withheld information concerning suspected child abuse.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/08/children-homes-supply-line-paedophiles-lord-warner

Ria

22nd January 2015, 19:12

��the Royals have proven links to 50 sex offenders.

http://yournewswire.com/50-proven-links-the-royals-have-to-sex-offenders/

Verum

22nd January 2015, 19:32

I'm new here and was touched by your story and remarkable journey. If only we were all so honest and determined to seek the truth the world would certainly be a different place.

The Pedophilia ring is protected by people in high places. If they allow the truth to come out it will likely collapse a number of societies. If it comes within the interest of National security it makes things very difficulty I imagine. Arresting the queen, pope and past and present leaders is a tall order at the moment. Hopefully justice will be done one day

Spiral

22nd January 2015, 19:53

Copy this while you can !

http://youtu.be/gMNty3SNjjM

norman

22nd January 2015, 20:04

That's slamming Labor a bit much, Cyril Smith wasn't Labor, he was Liberal/Dem.

I don't know who most of the others are, to know if there are more 'errors'.

Spiral

22nd January 2015, 22:39

That's slamming Labor a bit much, Cyril Smith wasn't Labor, he was Liberal/Dem.

I don't know who most of the others are, to know if there are more 'errors'.

Smith was first active in local politics as a Liberal in 1945 before switching to Labour in 1950; he served as a Labour councillor in Rochdale from 1950 and became mayor in 1966. He subsequently switched parties again and entered Parliament as a Liberal in 1972 and won his Rochdale seat on five further occasions. Smith was appointed the Liberal Chief Whip in June 1975 but later resigned on health grounds. In his later years as an MP, Smith opposed an alliance with the Social Democratic Party and did not stand for re-election in 1992, but remained loyal to the Liberal Democrats upon the parties' merger. Throughout much of his career, he maintained a high profile in the media, and became a popular public figure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_Smith

Sooz

23rd January 2015, 09:11

This is mainstream media just now. (Interesting how quickly it slips off the page. It was only posted a couple of hours ago and now I've had to search for it).

Disgusting, filthy degenerate scum, preying on mixed up young boys. Words cannot reflect my anger enough. I'll just stop there.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/priest-john-sidney-denham-sentenced-to-another-13-years-jail-for-sexual-abuse-of-boys-20150123-12wx83.html

But like I said on another thread, they will throw these people under the bus to satisfy the public anger, while the ptb MAY get off scot free - or perhaps not. Things are underfoot.

Ria

27th January 2015, 21:29

Child star accused of falsely claiming Ken Clarke indecently assaulted him
Benjamin Fellows accused of perverting course of justice after he claimed former Conservative Cabinet minister touching his 'private parts' as teenager

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11359635/Child-star-accused-of-falsely-claiming-Ken-Clarke-indecently-assaulted-him.html

Benjamin Fellows is telling the truth, these Cabinet ministers are corrupt through and through.

Amanda

31st January 2015, 02:32

A truly heartfelt thank you for taking an interest in the horrendous topic that is Child Abuse and for keeping this thread alive.

Update - for those who are following this thread & for those who are joining. A lot has happened in the last few days. I will list the items briefly & attach the recent NSW Ombudsman correspondence. Please remember I only delete information that is sensitive. I only withhold information where it would contravene current legislation or name someone who has not given me permission to name them publicly.

1. Spoke via landline with a senior operational NSW Police officer. It appears that a current complaint is still active. The complaint involves the actions of operational NSW Police towards the wife of a ritual Child Abuse victim. The victim was trafficked as a baby by a parent and my priority is the safety and well being of the husband & wife. I have placed my concerns in writing to the senior operational NSW Police officer. The behaviours that are being investigated are unprofessional, unethical and completely disrespectful. The details are too sensitive but I will share more when it is safe to do so. (NB: This is a separate Police complaint to that of the Ballet Teacher & Students).

2. I think I have peeved off Ray Hadley - not sure but I was communicating with him via email and then he stopped communicating. I will share those emails as soon as it is safe to do so.

3. I have not heard from the local Police - regarding 2011 Mandatory Report information. For those who are just joining in - I made two Mandatory Reports in 2011. One particular item of many items of information was managed by the NSW Department of Education - they did not have jurisdiction and forwarded the item of information to the local Police. The Department of Education failed to send me the legislated administrative paperwork attached to that item of information and their actions. The POI (Person of Interest) involved in that item of Mandatory Reporting information is Peter Edwards - former Leeton High School Principal who has had charges of Child Sexual Assault preferred and found to be substantiated in a court hence I can name him as it is a matter of public record.

I conducted a recent audit of my Child Abuse Whistleblower records and found the omission - alerted the Department of Education immediately and they responded immediately. I contacted local Police some months ago and have heard nothing. I shall follow that up as a direct result of my recent conversation with the senior operational NSW Police officer.

4. Received attached correspondence from the NSW Ombudsman as a result of my recent correspondence addressed to four Government agencies. The four Government agencies address matters of Child Abuse and matters of legislation. (NB: I cannot upload documents to this thread so - for those who do not have access to facebook - I shall type out the text of the correspondence to which I refer).

Dear Ms Prosser

We received your letter about Community Services NSW on 6 Jan, 2015.This letter is to help you understand what we will do with your complaint now.

As a first step, your complaint will be discussed at an allocation meeting. At this meeting, we will assess the information you have given us and decide about any further action we may take.

After this meeting, we will contact you to let you know about our decision.

We will contact you within 21 days of when you complained to us. If the circumstances of your complaint change before you hear from us, we would appreciate you contacting us to let us know.

Please read the other side of this letter for information that explains what our office does and how you can help us.

We hope this letter helps you understand better how we do our work. We will be in contact with you again soon.

Yours Sincerely

Helen Wodak
Principal Investigator, Community Services Division

I have additional information & evidence to provide to the NSW Ombudsman Child Protection Manager. The information and evidence will come from my records and proudly I can add information and evidence that comes directly from people who have contacted me via the Child Abuse Whistleblowers Community page on facebook.

Thank you to everyone who provides support on this heartbreaking but worthwhile journey. Thank you to all the shills and trolls and paid disinformation agents who provide me with the evidence I need to know that we are winning this battle against evil. If anyone reading this thinks that Child Abuse is all right - then I truly hope you can justify your belief system. I will continue to fight this battle and I will be done when I am done.

Much Peace - while we work our way through this pain and chaos with dignity and respect - Amanda

NB: I will share all available correspondence as soon as it is completed. Thank you for all the ongoing support.

Sooz

31st January 2015, 02:54

Thanks for keeping us updated, Amanda.:thup:

Ria

2nd February 2015, 17:09

Yet another blow for child abuse inquiry after it's revealed that the Home Office coached 'independent' experts about how to answer 'difficult questions'
Dru Sharpling and Jenny Pearce given document before being grilled
Contained key facts and messages, and chronology they were to learn
Angela Kyle, ‘head of secretariat’ for inquiry, emailed pair information
Two chairmen forced to quite probe due to possilbe conflicts of interest
Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934815/Yet-blow-child-abuse-inquiry-s-revealed-Home-Office-coached-independent-experts-answer-difficult-questions.html

Westminster 'paedophile ring': Sir Peter Hayman named in secret file
National Archives paper reveals the late diplomat Sir Peter Hayman was the focus of a report into 'unnatural' sexual behaviour in the 1980s
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11380078/Westminster-paedophile-ring-Sir-Peter-Hayman-named-in-secret-file.html

Ria

2nd February 2015, 17:12

Bill would let Texas teachers legally kill students
Schoolteachers in Texas will be allowed to use lethal force against students without risking legal repercussions if a new bill being considered in the Lone Star State’s legislature becomes a law.

The bill –HB 868, or the “Teacher’s Protection Act” – affords educators legal immunity in the unlikely event that they happen to kill any of their students during school-sanctioned events.
For the full article:
http://rt.com/usa/228003-texas-bill-kill-students/

Ria

3rd February 2015, 09:11

Victory for abuse victims as Theresa May FINALLY launches VIP paedophile inquiry
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/victory-abuse-victims-theresa-finally-5080931

Calabash

3rd February 2015, 12:00

Thanks Ria and fingers crossed that an Inquiry actually gets off the ground. Sue Berelowitz is quoted as saying, "There isn't a town, village or hamlet in which children are not being sexually exploited," and hopefully she now has the wherewithall to do something about it. Strange that Michael Mansfield would "not be available" . He was my favourite man for the job.

One of my ploys for getting rid of canvassers on the run up to the General Election is to ask them what their respective party intends to do about the paedophile ring operating in the government.

Calabash

6th February 2015, 12:50

http://www.tribunemagazine.org/2015/02/ex-spook-admits-giving-big-big-names-to-sex-dossier-mp/
Partial extract of above article in the Tribune Online:

http://www.tribunemagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/jaholland.jpg

A former British spy admits passing names of ‘sexual deviants’ to Geoffrey Dickens, the MP who compiled ‘dossiers of secret shame’ for Margaret Thatcher’s home secretary Leon Brittan.

The list included the leader of the Commons in Thatcher’s first cabinet, arts minister Norman St John-Stevas.

Tony Holland, now a wealthy Australian stock market investor, spied for MI6 in South Africa in 1969 when he worked as an engineer on the design of the R�ssing opencast uranium mine, being constructed in the Namibian desert for the international firm RTZ with South African and Iranian finance.

At his son’s home in Melbourne yesterday, Holland, 79, said:

Around April 1982 I gave a list of names to Geoff Dickens when we met by accident in a first class coach on a two-hour train journey from Yorkshire to London. He was wearing a fancy waistcoat and he looked like a spiv. We were both big fellows at the time.

I had serious legal problems with the West Yorkshire police. My former paymasters in the intelligence services had stage-managed my release from an English prison for a new life in Australia – but I was desperate to clear my name.

I offered to help Dickens with his head hunting of ‘high level deviants’ if he would help me with my own problems. I then told him how we had spied on Norman St John-Stevas and his friend Lord Robin Maugham, with their young boyfriends and guardsmen in both London and Brighton. Sex with men under 21 was still illegal in those days.

The trouble with Dickens was that as far as he was concerned all gay men were paedophiles. He saw no difference.

We joked about ‘shirt lifters’ and ‘babba stabbers’ and laughed about their life style. I related a story to him about Oscar Wilde and told him Wilde’s wife had changed her name to Holland, but they were gladly no relation to me. He laughed and I laughed with him as he tried to say the word ‘pedophile’, emphasizing the ‘ped’, which for some reason he couldn’t say properly.

John Anthony Holland had been a long-term freelance ‘asset’ for the secret services.

Working in South Africa for Fraser and Chalmers, an engineering subsidiary of the British firm Mitchell Cotts, he reported to MI6 in London on a meeting he attended in Johannesburg between mine engineers and the charismatic Israeli defence minister Moshe Dayan.

Calabash

7th February 2015, 15:53

Is The Establishment Riddled With Paedophiles? Russell Brand The Trews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAY46NW7EDo

Nothing new in this video but when a high profile person gets involved it carries more weight to the masses - enough to topple maybe . . .

modwiz

7th February 2015, 17:00

The pedophile scandal would end in a weekend with a real Grail Sovereign. Elizabeth ll is a Luciferian. Queen Victoria decided to follow that route and only those following it are kept in the secession. Edward the Vlll was set-up to fall in love with Wallice Simpson, an M5 agent, leading to his forced abdication. The whole story is revealed in Ria's thread about Edward Vlll's daughter charging Liz ll with treason that she is guilty of. Pedophilia is government and cannot be separated when the Crown tolerates it. Pedos will be around until gubmint changes. It is the only solution to this problem. Instead of screaming about pedos, scream about the Crown that permits it.

Pedos, chemtrails, GMO's, you name it all are solved through gubmint dissolution and reforming. Hacking at the branches will not stop the tree from growing new ones. Of course, changing gubmints requires people to get motivated and fund the will to see it through. We all know the horrors. Time to stop looking at them and simply discussing them. Only action by people will halt the horrors, not identifying them and discussing them.

All horrors are sanctioned by our gubmints. Time to go after the problem.

Calabash

7th February 2015, 17:36

Instead of screaming about pedos, scream about the Crown that permits it.
We all know the horrors. Time to stop looking at them and simply discussing them. Only action by people will halt the horrors, not identifying them and discussing them.
All horrors are sanctioned by our gubmints. Time to go after the problem.

Thank you for your comments Modwiz, although until the time comes when the crown and governments have changed then I will continue to contribute to this worthwhile thread and I hope others will too.

ronin

7th February 2015, 18:34

who is the crown?
can you name them please!!!!

Sooz

8th February 2015, 01:57

Thank you for your comments Modwiz, although until the time comes when the crown and governments have changed then I will continue to contribute to this worthwhile thread and I hope others will too.

Bump!

Breeze

8th February 2015, 20:29

I was right in the middle of posting this, pressed ‘post’……………….. and the thread disappeared; So posting here because it is relevant to the topic of this thread too.

I saw an ‘unnamed’ thread yesterday………. Where I immediately did my own research following the OP link here, that lead me to many further sites. I spent a good 3 hours watching and reading etc what I could find. The one you- tube clip did not give justice to the children’s story, or the gradual build up as they unravelled their experiences in linear time on another link.

Today I have been very silent for numerous reasons………..

(1) I am sick to the very core of my being with what I watched and read yesterday; so is my hubby. The information was not new, but hearing it from the mouths of young children jarred our souls.

(2) I BELIEVE these children. Besides being an empath, I watched and saw the signs of compartmentalisation, children who have been traumatised and knew no different, it was ‘normal’ to them. Those recording the footage were not taking imho as some type of sick kick, this was grass roots ‘the only power available’ to record evidence to save these children from this horrendous abuse; who else is there to turn too when their local authorities are apparently ‘in on it’.

(3) I have spent the day deeply thinking about them on....
(a) their safety – because they are not safe at present, still in the centre of the fire.
(b) Who can I write to that can get this information out so that it assists all those children this affects. AND not let this be another ‘file’ put away in the name of ‘transparency’ not allowed to see the light for 86 years…………..
(c) I have made a list………….. tomorrow I start writing letters, emails to those who have the audience to hopefully make a change.
(d) I wish such stories were uncommon…………… and realise IF people like me sit back, no change will come.

Anyone who has listened to Jay Parker, Mark Passio etc about Satanic Families and practices will understand what is occurring here.

God Bless all children around the world living in these heinious conditons :wiz:

sandy

8th February 2015, 22:41

Hi Modwiz,

The branches are part of the tree and sometimes hacking the branches off one at a time kills the tree, so there is more than one way to skin a cat. Also many can't see the tree for the branches. Thus getting on the bandwagon to hack off some rotten branches helps in the end to prune the branches enough to bring forth the vision and realization of where the truck and root begins.

It is all good, when we stand up for justice IMHO.

Highland1

9th February 2015, 07:29

Sooz

9th February 2015, 07:54

I only came across this late last night. I believe it related to this Russ. And also what Breeze is referring to. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Malc and Mods, I'm not trying to be adversarial here, if you want to take this post down, do so, if you feel you need to for legal reasons. I'm not fully in the loop with what happened with links being deleted last night.

This link is from David Icke's site. Really shocking stuff, but we cannot hide our eyes behind our hands. It needs to be outed.

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/big-questions-for-the-state-to-answer-on-what-has-happened-to-these-children/

Edit: It seems this link is on another thread. If it's OK with the mods, I think it should stay here as well.

Highland1

9th February 2015, 08:10

I think the legalities have become apparent now Sooz and the thread re-opened.

Russ

Breeze

9th February 2015, 10:06

Thank you Sooz for letting me know that David Icke is now reporting this story on his site........ he was one of the people on my list I intended to write too today.
The more widespread the children's story is read by the public, hopefully the safer these children we be.

Ria

9th February 2015, 15:56

This petition is to support the children and bring protection.

https://www.change.org/p/the-rt-hon-theresa-may-mp-return-whistleblower-kids-and-abuse-survivors-of-london-school-to-their-russian-family

Sooz

10th February 2015, 01:08

Paul Watson of Infowars (Alex Jones), is questioning whether this is a hoax. Perhaps? Perhaps not?

http://www.infowars.com/hoax-bizarre-satanic-rituals-described-by-children/

sandy

10th February 2015, 01:26

Well wouldn't this whole scenario just be the cat's meow in taking the heat off of the present child abuse scandal issues with the elite, royalty and government officials....................seems this may end up being a FALSE FLAG event for just such a purpose IMHO> :eyebrows:

Ria

10th February 2015, 09:21

You need to stretch your perceptions, this in no way would deflect what is going on in Westminster it just underlines it.
Further more this is the tool they use to get out of real justice.

Do you really think the kids learnt this from the Mask of Zoro!!!!!!!!!have you watch the Mask of Zoro?

If you want to do something constructive go and have a go at info wars for disinformation.

Ria

10th February 2015, 10:31

I wonder what the mother might be thinking now? as to why her daughter was made so unhappy in the brief time her daughter spent in that school.
There is a school picture taken with Glenda Jackson MP (former Oscar nominated actress) some children, teachers, including the father of the alleged abused children.
The children said he was at the schoole nearly every day, the mother had been under the impression that he only saw the children on Saturday.
Why was he at the School every day?
Why did not the mother know about this ?
If he had an official capacity it would be known by all.
I've help out at my childs school with a pottery group one day a week it would be very odd if I'd been there with out good reason at any other time.

Christ Church Primary School, Hampstead
Be careful
Rating:
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Reviewed: November 2009
School review
My daughter was a bubbly confident child who was filled with curiousity about the world around her. I have just been comparing her photo's at the beginning of the first term with those three months later.All her confidence and enthusiasm had been knocked out of her, she still bears the scars to this day. She now hesitates to do anything because she feels she will fail . If you are from a higher income group you will probably be fawned upon and your child encouraged, but if you are deemed to be poor, don't consider sending your child there. Not very Christian in practice.
This review is the opinion of a Schoolsnet user and is not the view of the publisher. If you believe it is inappropriate, please report it to us.
Do you agree with this review? Let others know what you think.

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Breeze

10th February 2015, 10:59

For those who wish to further investigate the London child abuse case - all the private short videos have now been joined together in a 1 hour video.

Due to the sensitivity of this story, I am not sure what is allowed and not allowed anymore to be posted here, so you will have to copy this link and paste it in your browser for it to work.

As to the theory that these children learned this sex talk from the movie 'the mask of zoro', I am rather baffled by such a theory and unable to pure reason it; I don't remember this movie being classed as 'X rated' - 18. furthermore curiously, 'the of mask of Zorro' was the excuse for another child case who reported sexual abuse too. Mmmmm

In my research today I also found out that the court dealing with this case suggests all evidence is destroyed.................. this does not make sense as the court case is still ongoing AND what with the medical examination concluding sexual abuse had taken place and had left 'scarring' - why the haste to destroy evidence?

I feel like I am in cuckoo land. Perhaps I need to re-watch the mask of Zorro to find the answers.........

At the end of the day, I am not interested in dramas - but I am interested in children's well beingness, and so far what is being unearthed around the world and what is happening to children brings deep sorrow to my soul.

May the truth prevail. God bless all these innocent victims past and present.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzueXF25KI8

Ria

10th February 2015, 12:20

Satanic abuse no myth, say experts
A specially commissioned government report will this week conclude that satanic abuse does take place in Britain. It will say that its victims have suffered actual abuse and are not suffering from "false memory syndrome".

A specially commissioned government report will this week conclude that satanic abuse does take place in Britain. It will say that its victims have suffered actual abuse and are not suffering from "false memory syndrome".
For full article, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qy9UTcsSKQg

The One

10th February 2015, 12:38

Watch this space

A specially commissioned government

How many of the popes,royals have so call been charged and nothings been done.I do hope there can be justice on this matter

cheers

Ria

11th February 2015, 13:50

The judge Mrs Justice Anne Pauffley in the High Court who was involved with the Hollie Greig case seems tobe be involved with this case. :fpalm:

Breeze

11th February 2015, 15:37

The photos speak volumes................ Who is watching out for the Children?

http://researchingreform.net/

House of Commons Empties IN UNDER A MINUTE As Home Secretary Makes Statement On Child Abuse Inquiry
05 Thursday Feb 2015 Posted by Natasha in child abuse inquiry

It�s a depressing state of affairs when a fully packed chamber, filled with ministers during Prime Minister�s Question Time, suddenly empties when the topic of child welfare arises.

And yet that�s exactly what happened when Theresa May gave her update on the nation�s child abuse inquiry, yesterday. It was not an insignificant moment or a routine formality, either. The Home Secretary was making a much-anticipated, ground breaking announcement relating to the inquiry which saw her reveal for the first time, the new status the inquiry would hold and, for the last time, a final Chair to lead that inquiry.

Worse still, a large number of female ministers chose to make a hasty exit before Miss May gave her address, giving the distinct impression that they too were occupied with far more pressing matters than child sexual abuse. In a world where women have for the most part had to champion the protection and promotion of child welfare, it was an inexcusable display of indifference.

That indifference though was clearly not present during the first part of the session, where the House which was unusually packed to the rafters sparred over election fodder, from party sponsors to pledges. But once those matters which did not impact directly on their livelihoods came to an end, it seemed our politicians� interest in the nation�s welfare did too.

Here is a screen shot of MPs discussing election matters on Wednesday:

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We have left the timer details under the picture, for anyone wishing to verify that this was the segment of the debate relating to election matters.
And here is a screen shot showing MPs taking part in the debate on the nation�s child abuse inquiry:

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It takes MPs less than a minute to leave the chamber virtually empty before May makes her statement (You can see this happening at 12:36:00 of the video). Visibly absent are Prime Minister David Cameron and other senior politicians, whom you can see getting up and leaving by the Speaker�s exit.

On another note, as Theresa May promised yesterday, The House of Commons library has now published a briefing paper offering general background information on the Inquiry, which you can access here. http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN07040/background-to-the-independent-panel-inquiry-into-child-sexual-abuse

*We watched Prime Minister�s Questions ourselves, and can confirm that these images are an accurate representation of the proceedings.

Catsquotl

11th February 2015, 15:53

I should have known it would be like this of course, but find these pictures as appalling as the story.

With Love
Eelco

Breeze

11th February 2015, 15:58

LINKS ARE ALREADY BEING REMOVED: PLEASE COPY AND PASTE FOR RECORD WHAT YOU CAN.

I do not know where to begin with this update on the Hampstead/Finchley ‘alleged’ Cult Group. Imho, it is sadly just the tip of a large iceberg of what our world is dealing with as more truths come to light about the hidden underworld of sexual abuse acts on innocent children.

As my above post points out, paedophilia is not on many UK MP’s thoughts or concerns; so for me hoping our justice system or the world’s justice systems will blow the lid on the true extent of what is happening to our beloved children……….. well, I’d probably have more luck wishing on a fairy. As things stand at present, the only option as I see is grass roots awareness. I am warmed to see many in the alternative community are now investigating, researching and publishing this story, refusing it be another of many cases buried with victims gagged voiceless.

I do understand such stories are hard to stomach or to make sense of, such has bemused me for years. A place to start in what might be occurring in so many of these worldwide group/cult cases please google “Transyuggothyian Magic” http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread449778/pg1

Much of my research on this case can only be found on blogs, ‘friends’ of the victims who are not allowed their voice. This means after the main article one also has to also scroll down and read the commentaries to keep up with updates etc. I have linked what I can but with many comments etc lack independent links per quote/comment. So for that reason, I have briefly outlined some pointers in my own words to summarise just ‘a small part’ of what I have read, as most is, well……………. :fpalm::fpalm:

I have removed sensitive names as per TheOneTruth’s request respecting forum rules.

• Mum and dad never married nor lived together
• The judge dealing with this case is the same judge that was involved in the Hollie Grieg case [say no more………..]
• Mother (also a victim of violent abuse) summoned into court yesterday: at present unlikely to get her kids back.
• In below links more of this horrendous story unravels with details etc.
• Mother explains in chronological order the changes in temperament in her children over the years unaware these were psychological signs of trauma and sexual abuse.
• The infamous Tavistock Centre was briefly involved.
• More local schools possibly involved. 4 secret rooms under church where sexual abuse took place.
• Children said the sexual abuse was video recorded, including baby sacrifices, then forced to watch it - afterwards papa uploads onto internet. [I surmise this would be the ‘underworld internet’. Media recently reported that the public only have access to approx 5% of what is on the internet.]
• These videos came out ‘inadvertently’ – see below explanation.
• This whole story will be clearer after reading below 3rd party links – that last link is the most important.

Sabine K McNeill9 February 2015 at 01:22
Just note that mum and dad have never been married and never even lived together!

The other important point is that these videos came out 'inadvertently', due to an email I sent to the Home Secretary T****** M** MP. She is not only responsible for the Police, but also the National Inquiry into Sexual Abuse. I blog about that on www.nationalinquiry.wordpress.com

I wanted the Home Secretary to know that I added her to the list of recipients / decision makers when someone signs the petition I had published - under my name - for the Association of McK***** Friends was 'corporately gagged'.

Please sign the petition https://www.change.org/p/the-rt-hon-theresa-may-mp-return-whistleblower-kids-and-abuse-survivors-of-london-school-to-their-russian-family

‘Apparently’ the mother recently wrote:

"I believe that most of the information my children have revealed is true.

"There is no way a child could create a story like that, with so many intricate details…

"It is out of the question that Mr C****** or me would coach the children to say things like that.
"Neither of us would ever put the children through this for whatever reason, and create such unbelievable situation for ourselves.

"Even supposedly we coached them to say this, the children of that age could not possibly repeat the same story all over again to the different adults in different circumstances without hesitation or changing the details.

"Although we know that they have retracted their statements, the children still, even now keep coming back to the same story and the details, while in the foster care to the degree that it became unbearable for their caretaker Carol to look after them. She no longer wants to do this."

http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/satanic-child-abuse-in-hampstead.html

This next link describes in detail this ‘alleged’ cult group. I would suggest you scroll down halfway to first read the Mother’s chronological account that led to the secret nightmare her children were terrified to ever speak about.
https://www.facebook.com/araya.soma/posts/10153149000318203

Ria

11th February 2015, 22:03

Updates, just a reminder to copy all info, as much is being taken down.
http://tapnewswire.com/2015/02/lawyers-want-papa-kills-babies-removed-from-the-internet-they-need-more-facts-before-deciding-whats-to-happen-to-the-whistleblower-children/

http://forced-adoption.com

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VNvQFlFy9Cs

sandy

12th February 2015, 00:50

Thank you for staying on top of this ugly, ugly, ugly, horrific, debasing reality of this sickness that is so vile. Your compassion is honoured by me and your strength to face this stench in our society and keep reporting on it is valued. May the light that is shining on this evil darkness prevail until it burns this sickness out of the closet world wide and the day comes when it will no longer be tolerated by humanity.

KINGSTON FRIZZ

12th February 2015, 08:00

I think everyone should take a step back and read this or at the very least consider it. Some wont like it but it does make some important points.

Hampstead Abuse Allegations And Online Vigilantism: The Post Savile World

The sharing of a series of videos involving allegations of extreme sexual abuse of at least 2 children, has prompted a form of online vigilantism, the ramifications of which has yet to be fully understood.

The clips of a poor innocent boy and girl being encouraged to discuss so called “satanic ritual abuse” sessions that allegedly took place in Hampstead, London, are currently being paraded around blogs, forums, and social media accounts, by a wave of self-styled justice and truth seekers.

Are the “security services involved?” asks the Aanirfan Blog, which proceeds to list the allegations, before linking them to a string of historical cases that for the most part were shown to be baseless.

Absurd Allegations

Abuse is alleged to have taken place at locations as absurd as an “American fast-food restaurant,” which the children named as “McDonalds,” with UK chain “Pizza Express,” and “all the caf�s” lumped in as well. That’s without mentioning “all the shopkeepers,” being involved.

The boss of the “fast food restaurant” allowed child sacrifices to take place in a “secret room”. Here “Babies were prepared and cooked.”

A school where the children attended is said to be a hub of activity. At the nearby church they were allegedly forced to partake in the murder of babies by their teachers and estranged father. They were abused, made to drink the blood of the dead, and danced on decomposed baby skulls.

The videos although shared recently, were taken some time ago and the children have since been taken off the mother, who helped record them with her male partner, who has since believed to have gone walkabouts.

A Change.org petition that seems to have taken the allegations at face value, calls for the children to be returned to the mother and their Russian family.

The Tap Blog agrees, and asserts that “anybody who watches these privately taken videos is convinced,” that a powerful paedophile ring is at work … I’m not!

Misguided Vigilantism

What I am convinced of is that in a post Jimmy Savile world – where justified distrust of state institutions reigns supreme – a void has opened up in to which vigilantism has filled.

Savile was a monster, as are the gambit of celebrities and other high profile people convicted of abuse in the past couple of years. The state and society as a whole, have a lot to answer for – how did they allow this to happen? It’s only natural that the average everyday citizen has less faith in the authorities than they’ve ever had. How are we supposed to feel when psychopaths, liars and spineless head turners, are exposed so overtly?

Congruently, the rise of social media, citizen journalism, or what we might call “alternative media,” has allowed everyone to have a voice. Individuals are more empowered now than they’ve ever been, in their ability to share ideas and information. This is extremely beneficial if one subscribes to concepts of freedom or democracy.

However with our new found power to have our voices heard also comes great responsibility. Comments we may have made flippantly down the pub to a handful of friends and acquaintances, can now be seen by thousands of people on Facebook, Twitter or Youtube.

What’s concerning about this story is not that people wish to help two innocent children who may have been abused, but that they would so blindly believe and share anything and everything written about the case. That they would believe the videos completely and literally. That they would name names, single out locations, and plaster the videos themselves all over the web!

Although there is certainly a debate to be had about the secret family courts and some of the practises of social services in this country, there are legitimate reasons why cases involving children, especially abuse, are restricted from public perusal.

Whatever may have happened to these children, how are they going to feel when in a few years they Google their names and see their faces crudely cropped for dramatic effect on some paranoid and hysterical article? With hordes of people commenting with their armchair expertise?

Clouding Real Abuse

In the aforementioned Aanirfan blog post the author tenuously links to a “satanic ritual abuse” case from the 80s in the US state of Minnesota. Several children made allegations against an unrelated man and their parents. The man confessed and then identified a number of the children’s parents as perpetrators. Ultimately twenty-four adults were charged with child abuse though only three went to trial with two acquittals and one conviction.

What was a sickening but relatively straightforward abuse case, snowballed in to a hysteria about a giant satanic ring. The Attorney General’s Office concluded that the investigation by the local police was so poor and confused, that it had destroyed the opportunity to properly investigate. Judge Antonin Scalia said the coercive techniques used by the investigators damaged the credibility of the allegations and although “some sexual abuse took place … there is no reason to believe it was as widespread as charged.”

(In other words the hysteria clouded the real abuse that took place).

The infamous McMartin preschool case, which ran through the 80s was similarly ruined by the hysterical responses of both the social workers, investigators and the media. Suggestive interview techniques prompted the children to make up absurd stories like seeing witches fly, and accuse people nowhere near the scene of being involved, like celebrity Chuck Norris. Secret tunnels and other locations where the abuse was supposed to have taken place were all ruled out. After a record $15 million trial concluded in 1990, all charges were dropped and at least one victim admitted they made up their story.

Satanic Panic then jumped to the UK in 1990 when five families in Rochdale were wrongly torn apart when it was alleged children were being abused by a satanic ring. Paranoid social workers, in part working from NSCPCC guidelines on unfounded “satanic ritual abuse,” had convinced themselves that satanists were operating in Manchester. Video tapes of interviews that were eventually released showed how the social workers coerced the children to make up the stories, and even with no evidence they ran with the case.

Allegations ranged from the sacrifice of human babies and robed devil worship to locking the children in cages and caves. None of the claims were ever proven, and all of the children were eventually returned to their families, 10 years later in the worst case. Many of the alleged victims later spoke out in a documentary about the very real abuse they suffered when being forced to undergo “medical examinations” after being physically removed from their families by police.

In today’s online world of trutherism the Hollie Greig case is perhaps more well known. This was the story of a down syndrome girl who was allegedly abused for over a decade by a gang of paedophiles, reaching the top levels of the Scottish establishment. Well-meaning internet activists launched the “Google Hollie Greig” campaign and some even took to the streets to protest the stomach churning crimes of the elite.

Names and locations were named (even when they didn’t exist), as were other victims who vehemently denied being abused. The story quickly morphed in to whatever the current alternative media celebrity wanted it to be, including satanism, but ultimately no solid evidence ever emerged.

Some medical records could be interpreted as evidence of abuse in some form, but at this point the case is so clouded in unsubstantiated nonsense that nobody is ever going to take it seriously again.

Another Case Ruined?

We’re entering in to a new world, where cases like that of the two children are going to be blown up on the internet much more regularly, because it’s so easy to do so. Somebody claiming to be the father is posting on the videos to try and clear his name, and the videos themselves were likely put up with the mother’s permission to get people on her side.

Legal steps had already been taken before they were uploaded, suggesting the current hysteria is too late to impact the initial court action itself, as the children are already in care.

That fact alone should suggest that the authorities believe that yes, some form of abuse had taken place. Whether this was from the father, or the mother and her partner, or a combination of the them all – neither you or I are in a position to know or find out. Speculating or literally believing there are baby skulls stacked up in a church in the middle of North London, achieves absolutely nothing.

While on paper I am not opposed to vigilantism or independent research when there is solid grounds to believe the state has failed, this comes with the caveat that the vigilante or researcher has to demonstrate they can tackle the situation with impeccable standards. Shock and awe blog posts, or blindly sharing videos of the poor children on Facebook to spark discussions about how David Icke was right all along, is NOT how it’s done. In fact it’s the perfect excuse for tighter internet regulations and even more secretive court proceedings!

In many ways the internet has made us more free than we’ve ever been before, but are we mature enough to accept the responsibilities that go along with that?

This story suggests we’re not.

http://wideshut.co.uk/hampstead-abuse-allegations-online-vigilantism-post-saville-world/

Sooz

12th February 2015, 08:15

Breeze

12th February 2015, 08:24

Thank you Ria for this very important link, this really sums up the nightmares many thousands UK parents are going through. Please listen to this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNvQFlFy9Cs&app=desktop

I have been looking into how social services operate, recently watched many documentaries and threads and yes there are many well good intentioned social workers who do their upmost best for children, but the system is letting them down.

Political policies have changed throughout the years geared more to do with 'profit' rather than 'care', with many organisations given strict targets that must be completed each month, if targets are not reached funding is decreased.

I was shocked to discover even social services have expected targets to meet each month for ‘adoption’. If one follows this trail, it reveals a very ugly picture, where children are being removed from their parents for the ‘slightest’ of acts; such as a mother ‘waving’ to her children from the other side of the road, or a mother sending her child a birthday card – do any of these acts sound like justified crimes to have children removed from their parents?

KINGSTON FRIZZ

12th February 2015, 08:41

Thanks for posting this Kingston Frizz. I'm always interested in balance. Just curious, is this you speaking? I know you have copy and pasted it from a blog, but is this you? Or do you know the credentials of the person making the post? Have you vetted them? How do you know they are not shills?

After posting something a few days go, regarding this possibly being a hoax, I paid a bit more attention. My gut tells me this is real unfortunately and not a hoax.

That being said I would love to be proved wrong. Something just doesn't smell right to me.

Sooz

Hi. Its not me speaking. Although I did used to have a similar user name on the other forum so can see why you might think it was me.

I have not "vetted" this site or Keelan Balderson but I often read it as he often cuts through a lot of B.S. in the "conspiracy" world and is level headed.

Its worth reading a few other articles to get the tone of the author here. http://wideshut.co.uk/

How do you know anyone is not a shill? lol.

Besides which the article is about vigilantism more than anything else. I hope its a hoax too. But if it is, imagine how those accused must feel. That is the point of the article. Look before you leap.

This is the most important part of the article IMO:

While on paper I am not opposed to vigilantism or independent research when there is solid grounds to believe the state has failed, this comes with the caveat that the vigilante or researcher has to demonstrate they can tackle the situation with impeccable standards. Shock and awe blog posts, or blindly sharing videos of the poor children on Facebook to spark discussions about how David Icke was right all along, is NOT how it’s done. In fact it’s the perfect excuse for tighter internet regulations and even more secretive court proceedings!

Breeze

12th February 2015, 08:42

I would hope if any child came forward with such accounts of sexual abuse, naming their perpetrators, places etc��.. that the police and law would want to look into such allegations. Sadly this has not been the case with these children, their testimonies have been 'brushed off' as simply foul language taught to them by the mother's boyfriend. From the documents I have read so far, the children's testomony is being ignored............... regardless of medical evidence revealing evidence that sexual abuse has taken place.

The details these children speak of surely are easy to investigate? Why is it that the only people who are being questioned and judged are the whistle-blowers i.e.mother and boyfriend? Surely this isn't right?

And from the bottom of my heart, I wish that none of this is true, that none of these children are being sexually abused, that this is all one big fat lie..... However if one follows this story carefully, evidence is stacking up and no-one is willing to investigate these alegations. One has to ask why?

Ria

12th February 2015, 08:52

Sooz

12th February 2015, 09:16

...botched up my reply, couldn't get the quote right. Sorry.

Breeze

12th February 2015, 16:49

Update:

A witness statement by retired police constable K. Wilson, who apparently had access to parts of the police report, is generally critical of the overall investigation:

"To state categorically that the children had been coached (which is written on the Crime Report) which I understand is the assertion from Social Services, is simply not feasible.

Some investigation has been conducted into proving or disproving, however most appear to be slanted towards merely disproving the offences occurred [...]

This investigation does not look at the fact that the children are giving accounts of abuse and how they came to use such language other than to suggest Mr C***** coached the children.

Other named suspects who are professionals were not formally interviewed.

Investigators should not make assumptions that due to the unlikely or seemingly ridiculous nature of the allegation that it is untrue. If an account appears to be untrue corroboration should be sought for this also.

This investigation does not look at the fact that the children are giving accounts of abuse and how they came to use such language other than to suggest Mr C***** coached the children.

I do not feel it was suitable to close this investigation at this point without further enquiries and corroboration being sought."

from blog http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/hampstead-scandal-alisa-and-gabriel.html

ronin

12th February 2015, 22:02

The trouble I'm finding by some is a lack of real research and a cowerdly attitude.
This is so very serious and not something I would like tobe doing with my time.
The law is not working for decent people.
In fact the law has been ingnoring these children, in so far as there reports are not taken seriously, we can only assum that corruption from the top to the bottom is at play here. Given all the information about the politions and all priministers what can we expect it is a cesspit of filth.

i feel there is a hierarchy within the paedophilia and satanic rituals circuits.
it is no coincidence that many celebrities have been arrested over the last couple of years and it is still ongoing.
are they being thrown to the wolves?to divert investigation within the higher groups?
as soon as we start suspecting those in power that are suppose to represent us it is either covered up or can go cold.
the police will do a thorough job in any "normal case"....
but as soon as it comes to those who are high profile....things do tend to go tits up....

Spiral

12th February 2015, 22:11

i feel there is a hierarchy within the paedophilia and satanic rituals circuits.
it is no coincidence that many celebrities have been arrested over the last couple of years and it is still ongoing.
are they being thrown to the wolves?to divert investigation within the higher groups?
as soon as we start suspecting those in power that are suppose to represent us it is either covered up or can go cold.
the police will do a thorough job in any "normal case"....
but as soon as it comes to those who are high profile....things do tend to go tits up....

Of course there is a hierarchy.

They are throwing the dead & the irrelevant under the bus as "peedos" to hide the truth.

The real truth behind this is satanic rituals & sex magic to gain power, but of course to gain such power the soul must be handed over .....this has always been the case....and something replaces the soul, something not human.

These "things" are now in all the seats of power & influence.

ronin

12th February 2015, 22:24

Of course there is a hierarchy.

They are throwing the dead & the irrelevant under the bus as "peedos" to hide the truth.

The real truth behind this is satanic rituals & sex magic to gain power, but of course to gain such power the soul must be handed over .....this has always been the case....and something replaces the soul, something not human.

These "things" are now in all the seats of power & influence.

so how far do we to dig?
it is not the puppets you want but the source!
we need to know what we are dealing with!
it seems a pandemic of turning souls to the darkside!
the ultimate gain of power,control and money would be child abuse.
next the satanic cults would seem to make them rulers.

where would one start?

is it a epidemic as it seems,mentally ill people or a force overtaking a person?

Spiral

12th February 2015, 22:35

so how far do we to dig?
it is not the puppets you want but the source!
we need to know what we are dealing with!
it seems a pandemic of turning souls to the darkside!
the ultimate gain of power,control and money would be child abuse.
next the satanic cults would seem to make them rulers.

where would one start?

is it a epidemic as it seems,mentally ill people or a force overtaking a person?

There is a force at play, but as to who is a perverted or deluded human & to to who is a "thing" there is a split off point, a very clearly defined one.

There is "a pandemic" going on, but its always the darkest before the dawn, as Mark is fond of saying "hold the light"

They are "rulers" but not in a sense that counts if you don't believe in their power, look to yourself (sovereign & HS ) & that which is higher than they.

ronin

12th February 2015, 22:44

There is a force at play, but as to who is a perverted or deluded human & to to who is a "thing" there is a split off point, a very clearly defined one.

There is "a pandemic" going on, but its always the darkest before the dawn, as Mark is fond of saying "hold the light"

They are "rulers" but not in a sense that counts if you don't believe in their power, look to yourself (sovereign & HS ) & that which is higher than they.

we can look at our self ,be sovereign as much as we can be.ask for help in intuition to develop oneself.
but what we are seeing is not about us.
we are not learning about all this stuff for nothing!
the children are not speaking out for nothing,they are trying to tell us what is really going on!

i really do not want to go too deep with my thoughts here!because they are fooked up but make some kind of sense.

so lets say the alleged allegations are true,what can we do about it?
report it?have they not got every angle covered?

ronin

12th February 2015, 22:49

Modwiz got it right TV programming will soon divert a person back into submission.
forgetting what they have just learned and to reprogramme them.
hey that **** is awful,what time is caronation st on?
not only tv but the internet forum,s.
are we seeking our next next ego fix in what we learn or have to offer?
but do we really understand what is going on?

sandy

12th February 2015, 23:01

For those of us who are deeply affronted by child abuse the nudge is purposeful IMHO.............this deprived behaviour needs outing in every area of our lives and I plan on speaking out about it each time opportunity arises.

I will not be quiet, or subdued by a Hoax/false flag should this be the case as that is just what those in power want to happen. I do not have TV so will not be lulled into submission either.

ronin

12th February 2015, 23:03

Ria

13th February 2015, 07:16

UKcolumn.org Coverage (UK Pedophile Ring)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL_zZN6GFujsrHHZTn1-Hc40omqrEUhMXK&v=dIHfbRiqnLU&params=EAEYATgBSAFYAmILQ3gyMldTVlVZdzhoAA%253D%253 D&mode=NORMAL

Breeze

13th February 2015, 10:06

I have spent most of my entire week researching this case��.. This story is hauntingly so much bigger than on quick glance. Due to its legal sensitivity I have refrained from adding further detailed links, or documents, or backstory to this case, or present gaggings � that in truth frustrates me deeply on a soul level, as this is how injustice and such heinous crimes are allowed to continue under the surface away from public awareness.

For those who diligently research on the internet about this particular case, following links upon web sites and also links inserted in other people�s comments (most important, follow the clues), will find leaked documents etc revealing the enormity of this case. There is a chronological backstory that reveals much more than what is revealed on the videos. This story is haunting and heartbreaking.

Imo, this is not a hoax, smoke screen or red flag � if one still thinks it is, please do some more research and educate yourself of what is really happening, the stacking evidence speaks for itself, as well as highlights the gagging and silence going on behind the scenes to quickly bury this case out of sight.

Please be mindful not to get caught up in another�s opinion who has just done a quick flick � hour research in the comfort of their armchair and hastily concluded without looking thoroughly into the facts and details � such actions doesn�t serve truth, nor the victims, yet perpetuates cognitive dissonance. Please thoroughly research this for yourself, being spoon fed by strangers with half truths and readily accepting such is partly why humanity is in this mess.

This past week in my own research I have opened my eyes to a cesspit of crimes upon children and depressingly it appears those who whistleblow about sexual crimes being done on children are likely to be the ones punished and children removed � judging by similar prior cases.

And such cases will continue to be buried if the public awareness and grassroots keeps believing officialdom will sort it out��.

I soul-fully weep�� and all I can say to such acts �NOT IN MY NAME!� :wiz:

Sooz

13th February 2015, 11:57

KINGSTON FRIZZ

13th February 2015, 12:45

O.K. This has now broke AT LAST in the MSM in the local Hamstead newspaper on the front page:

http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/Launch.aspx?eid=7c02a741-1b1b-4b4c-a683-3c4564261b41

Breeze

13th February 2015, 12:54

I get you Breeze.

It tears me apart on a soul level, yet I know I have to keep it together in order to fight it.

That's what keeps me going here and behind the scenes.

While sometimes I feel weak, I am strong as an OX. I have a very strong constitution.:magic:,

Hi Sooz, Yes we are on the same page here.

As I see it, humanity is living in very tough times as more comes to light to what has been hidden in our world and society. Every one of us requires healing in one way or another through this transitional process.

I also see just how vital it is to stay within our soul space, observing with clear eyes, maintaining our inner guidance and strength as the tidal wave of hidden truths rises to the surface – this is all part of the awakening.

And it is okay to get angry, there is nothing wrong in getting angry; actually there is something wrong with us if we don’t get angry. The emotion of anger when used constructively and mindfully is an important ‘gear’ for momentum and application to create change for the betterment of All.

As this truth passage of initiations unfold, IF each one of us soul-fully with our inner guidance do what we can in whatever pressing subject that we gravitate towards, injecting conscious intent for truth to prevail upon this planet’s shores, then each of us will be doing our small part contributing to this conscious awakening that is happening to Humanity.

We are the ground force!

Change starts from the ground upwards.

Change starts in our present moment and how we choice/decide what to do in that gifted present moment.

A soulful thank you to Everyone who has the strength, wisdom and insight and loving compassion for children, and followed this particular case or cases like this. It speaks volumes about who you are. :thup:

And thank you to Malc and Mods for allowing such posts to be posted so such information can be heard.

:magic:,:magic:,:magic:,

KINGSTON FRIZZ

13th February 2015, 13:02

Has thetap blog removed all their links about this?

Ria

13th February 2015, 13:03

O.K. This has now broke AT LAST in the MSM in the local Hamstead newspaper on the front page:

http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/Launch.aspx?eid=7c02a741-1b1b-4b4c-a683-3c4564261b41
Unfortunately this newspaper is not one of our finest and dose not come anywhere close to the real story.
Your left thinking the paper is gagged as well.

Breeze

13th February 2015, 13:08

Here is an informative website that is following this particular case - with other useful links.

Also, IF this child abuse and injustice moves you, please sign the petition (found in link - scroll down page)

Snippet from below link...

Are The Children Telling The Truth?

...There is a lot of debate about whether or not this whole story is a fabrication. However, hearing the children describe their experiences on video convinced us of the validity of their claims.

Here’s why:

The precise depiction of their experiences, the way they never hesitated when asked about further details, how they took initiative in providing information and personal thoughts without constantly needing questions to initiate responses, and the way they would unexpectedly bring up additional details and take charge of the conversation – proves to us that they were actively referring to their own memories. Not to mention their explicitly detailed knowledge of the existence of such perverted acts at a very young age…

Some say that if it was true, the children would sound more traumatized. However, they said themselves that they have grown used to it. We have also listened to other interviews of satanic child abuse victims stating that as children, they believed it was “normal” and happened in “every family” because it is all they ever knew. That being said, it is possible to become desensitized to violence and abuse.

Seeing the interview compilation below had us convinced of the authenticity of this story.....

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/02/12/whistleblower-kids-expose-satanic-pedophile-ring-in-schoolchurch-they-need-our-help/

Breeze

13th February 2015, 13:45

This next video link which includes RT clips, shows the bigger problems we have in the UK that are failing our children. It also includes clips from this present case and other cases involving children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vI_ol-z6KI

Ria

13th February 2015, 17:05

the links have been taken down

ronin

13th February 2015, 20:41

the links have been taken down

enough people have downloaded the interviews and i,m sure they will pop up here and there.
is it Monday that the court is having a investigation?no media ect?
are the children safe now?
if this is true then it is not just the two children who came forward but many many more as well as the trafficking of babies.
the higher ups who are the lowdowns will surely try to disregard this.

godspeed and godbless to all who are following this and reporting .....

i do hope it is all fabricated coming from two childs minds.but deep down and what they say you know!

ronin

13th February 2015, 21:23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEIlTXp0C2A#t=687

Ria

14th February 2015, 09:45

whistleblower who raised alarm on satanic baby killing video flees country.
The whistleblower who started the online petition to “Return ‘Whistleblower Kids’ and Abuse Survivors of London School to their Russian Family!” is now saying she has been forced to flee the country amid fears of incarceration by UK authorities.

The original petition includes a video in which a young girl is seen on camera saying “my dad lies to my mum. He doesn’t only see us on Saturdays. He sees us every single day in school where they do sex to us.” Other videos include the brother and sister talking about shocking systematic abuse by authority figures, teachers, officials and business owners in Hampstead, North London.
Allegedly after the mother reported the crime to Barnet Police they confirmed the children’s story after medical examinations – but then closed the case and had the children taken into care shortly after corroborating their story - See more at: http://yournewswire.com/whistleblower-who-raised-alarm-on-satanic-baby-killing-video-flees-country/#sthash.0MhzH8KN.dpuf

According to the original petition the children have been detained by the same abusers and are being held by the police that were involved in the actual abuse.

Just days after the campaign was launched on change.org by Sabine McNeill, the petition’s creator, says she has been forced to flee Britain saying that the authorities involved in the case are mounting a prosecution against her.

On a petition update post on 12th February titled “Camden, Barnet and the Met in the Court of Public Opinion” Sabine posts:

Yesterday I booked a plane, packed my suitcase and left. I was told that Barnet, Camden and Camden / Met Police are mounting a prosecution against me even though I have done NOTHING criminal or unlawful. But who needs harassment and intimidation from bullies who cover up criminals?

I hadn’t been to Germany over Christmas, so now I can think differently in my ‘soul home’. And thus I am thinking of mounting a “Court of Public Opinion” with polling questions such as:

1. Unbelievable Allegations
a. Are Alisa and Gabriel credible witnesses, victims and survivors of extreme violence and abuse – as confirmed by medical reports commissioned by Police?

2. Public Interest Publications
a. Should Sabine be prosecuted for having sent this email to the Home Secretary with a link to the videos? Apparently, 3 Councils are getting together to do so. http://tapnewswire.com/2015/02/courts-want-crime-kept-quiet-while-the-innocent-are-punished/
b. Should Henry be prosecuted for having published the email with this link to and 3 of the videos? https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Byzy22cCtwpdOEM2bG00eXE2eTg&usp=sharing
c. What is your position as part of the ‘internet public’: I am shocked – I am pro-active – I support the petition and all discussions around the issues.

3. Inequality of Contact
a. The father had been given contact with the children only twice a month, but weekly since the children’s allegations.
b. Neither judge Vera Mayer in Barnet Court nor HHJ Pauffley redressed this inequality.
c. The reaction to the internet explosion has resulted in suspending contact with the mother for seven days, claiming she poses a risk to the children.

4. Criminal Prosecutions
a. Should the father Ricky Dearman be prosecuted for crimes committed against his own and other children?
b. Should Christchurch School and others mentioned by the children be investigated by an outside Police force?

5. Current Legal Proceedings
a. Should the mother’s Judicial Review against the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police to re-open the criminal case be heard by High Court Judge Pauffley in secret?
i. They contacted Haringey Council to mount proceedings against the former Constable who analysed the Police reports and video interviews.
ii. They contacted Barnet Council since the mother supposedly used ‘confidential documents’ in her Judical Review resulting in an emergency hearing at the High Court.
iii. This first hearing with HHJ Pauffley resulted in an ‘undertaking’ given by Belinda McKenzie, Chair of the Association of McKenzie Friends, to keep the proceedings ‘private’.
b. Should HHJ Pauffley remove the ‘corporate gag’ against Belinda McKenzie and members of the Association of McKenzie Friends? I understand that Belinda has actually resigned from our unincorporated association. http://mckenzie-friends.co.uk/about/
c. Another additional hearing before HHJ Pauffley was engineered by Barnet’s barrister Hannah Marakham to make Sabine be ‘required to attend’. This was the result of the barrister meeting the judge in private which is against procedure. A precedent case resulted in a case being transferred to another court and judge.
d. Should the ‘fact finding hearing’ be held in secret by High Court Judge Pauffley? It is scheduled to start on Tuesday 17 February at the High Court in London. Normally Court 32.
e. When will HHJ Pauffley address the mother’s concerns as addressed in this Position Statement? Instead, the mother and Belinda McKenzie came out from their last hearing that the intention was clear: NOT to return the children. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byzy22cCtwpdaFBaWFZIUDRyNms/view?usp=sharing
f. Since then one emergency hearing was scheduled due to the internet explosion which the mother did not attend.

6. Future Legal Proceedings
a. Who would mount a prosecution against Judge Vera Mayer?
i. She gave the father weekly contact after he had access to the children only twice a month before their allegations.
ii. Does the father have ‘standing’ in the current proceedings?
1. The mother was never married to the father and has sole custody according to The Hague Convention.
2. The mother had a Residence Order in place before the children’s allegations.
3. The father has a record of domestic violence with 5 police call-outs, 3 reports and 2 non-molestation orders.
b. Who would mount a prosecution against Barnet Council for not acting in the children’s best interest?
i. The mother never harmed the children. Instead she had been praised for her parenting skills.
ii. They were not sent to school for 3 months.
iii. They have been given a laptop by their father for skype conversations whilst in ‘care’ – 2 hours away in Kent.

7. Cover-Ups and Stitch-Ups
a. On 9 September it had been decided between Social Services and Police to taken the children into ‘police protection’ which took place on 11 September.
b. The plan to frame Abraham Christie is clear from the Police Reports. He was the one who got the children to talk as they recognised signs of them being abused.
c. The Acknowledgement of Service by the Met reads as much as twisting truth as the latest Position Statement by Barnet Council. Funny that Suzannah Hargreaves’ name has disappeared…

Long live the power of the great internet public, since public institutions have long lost their credibility… It was a comment on one of my websites that made me change the video on the petition to the one that is most popular.

Still, BBC published on 2 February: Adoption – Thousands of children forcibly taken into care – facing criticism by politicians in UK and Europe: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31089412

Maybe we can get the BBC behind us?

With more hope than ever,

Sabine
Skype: sabine.kurjo.mcneill

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- See more at: http://yournewswire.com/whistleblower-who-raised-alarm-on-satanic-baby-killing-video-flees-country/#sthash.0MhzH8KN.dpuf

Sooz

14th February 2015, 10:09

I've had more time to investigate this and have watched all the videos. No doubt in my mind, these kids are telling the truth.

In the vid below at 2.18 you will see the young girl grimace at an image in her mind, as her brother talks about Papa killing babies.

In addition, I've noted that when they are recalling events they are (from their perspective), looking with their eyes, up and to the left - recalling an image. To look to the right is fabricating/imagining an image.

Also if you scroll down to the comments, apparently the alleged father makes a statement. I won't name him, you can find it yourself.

Edit: To find the comments you need to click the you tube button.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtncDnCRPYo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtncDnCRPYo

Sooz

14th February 2015, 10:26

All the videos can be seen here.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Byzy22cCtwpdOEM2bG00eXE2eTg&usp=sharing

Breeze

14th February 2015, 13:22

Picture this general story scene��..

Divorc� lady meets man��. Lady and man fall in love�� starts a family. During the first year together father�s behaviour changes, becomes violent, physically attacking mother and ill treating stepchild while mother is at work.

Escalation of violence, mother leaves father and begins a new life, creating a stable nurturing environment for her children.

Father is absent for some time.

Later he begins stalking, breaking into the mother�s new home with threatening and physical violence towards mother and mother�s parent��.. Official departments alerted and called out numerous times; father finally is legally ordered to stop��...

On what should have been another �normal� family day, shocking revelations were revealed. The youngest children were caught secretly doing inappropriate things. Naturally any parent would immediately want to know �why� and �how� do they know such things. As the children begin explaining, the nightmare of many perpetrators, places, events and sexual abuse involving other children unravels.

In this general story theme��.. What would any loving caring parent do?

I am a mother, and my first priority would be to ensure my children�s safety and prevent such ever happening again to them and the safety of other children mentioned too. Secondly I would expect officialdom to immediately investigate these serious claims, make arrests etc.

What I would NOT expect (if this was happening to me and my family) is that my children would be removed from my care into the hands of the very people they claimed were some of the perpetrators, AND the only investigation officialdom is interested in, regards my own mental condition and parental care!

Such sadly is a common story where the parent�s mental states and parental skills are questioned. You see from my own research there seems to be a general world party line in officialdom that leans towards the children must be lying and the parents irrational to believe their children�s bizarre claims. It is nothing more than hysteria the public are told � right - huh?

Generally the many, many cases around the world have proof from medical examinations that sexual abuse is happening to such children and collaborates their testimonies��.. There is proof that many of these perpetrators publish child pornography on the dark net��. But little or none of this is revealed in court proceedings. And here is the main crux that faces jurors��. jurors who believe children have been molested BUT the evidence does not allow them to state who had committed the abuse beyond a reasonable doubt.

Put it this way, I had a disgruntled neighbour who had been forced to move as the council was knocking down his lifelong home. Each morning between 5-6am he would squirt poisonous chemicals into my garden killing all my hedge and plants making my dogs ill. This went on for years, my garden a dead poisonous zone, where I personally witnessed my neighbour doing this; photographically caught him in the act but none of this was classed as evidence. If I wanted to stop this, I needed to purchase expensive CTV cameras installed on the house and video the crime, then prove the video evidence had not been tampered � otherwise �everything� is hearsay as to �who� is poisoning my garden.

As to the case in question, safety for these children etc�� at present there is ZERO investigation into the children�s testimonies. The only court case is regarding the Mother. Also if I understand this correctly, the father has applied for the children to be permanently returned to his parental care.

Now one may understand why this particular story was urgently leaked on the internet��. Testimonies were not taken seriously; regardless that the elderly gentlemen heard interviewing the children is a retired policeman.

What is different about this particular case is that it is happening in real-time presently continuing (not a crime committed in a distant past where perpetrators and many victims deceased). With this happening in present time, my biggest concern right now (as would be any mothers) is for the children and their �full-time 24/7 safety�, and so far I have not read anything that reassures this. The children have now been in foster care for 4 months and apparently have forgotten how to speak Russian, their mother�s tongue; the children were fluent in speaking Russian. Is this normal to forget a language one spoke fluently in such a short time period? I am so concerned about the psychological effects happening to these children. Also, the father (named as one of the instigators and perpetrators) has been given more access.

Whether public awareness of this case going viral will force officialdom to reopen the serious claims made by these children, time will tell��.., but even if the investigation is reopened, I wonder if it will become another brush off under the carpet, history repeating itself where the victims are punished and the perpetrators continue �business as usual�.

I don�t have any answers, nor solutions yet do see around the world such children�s accounts are exploding with such children�s testimonies. When will these children�s voices be properly HEARD?

I focus/pray with all my soul that these children are protected and kept safe��. And that somehow miraculously those who are in the seats of officialdom have the courage to come forward and speak out the truth��.. so that these children are returned to their loving Russian family, perhaps allowed to move back to Russia and begin rebuilding their lives away from this hellish abusive nightmare.

And that those �named� by the children are fully investigated, and if the evidence fits, such persons are immediately sanctioned zero contact with children while court trials proceed.

I pray for all victims past, present and future whose voices need to be heard and taken seriously. I shudder to think what history books in the future will make of this era of Time we are living in. Will it be recorded as a time where the people united and said unanimously �not in our name� � or will it be recorded as an era of complete human apathy.

Please add into your focus/prayers 'children of our world'. Let the children speak.

Links are being closed quickly in this massive cover-up; thankfully information is being mirrored just as quickly to raise public awareness. Working link (at time of posting) that refers to the timeline of events in this present situation being discussed.
http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/kids-describe-sexual-abuse-and-murder.html
Also Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/836161423108930/permalink/836163466442059/

Ria

15th February 2015, 23:20

Sexual Abuse: Hampstead Police, Social Services brainwash whistleblower kids, threaten mother
Alfred Lambremont Webre

Published on Feb 15, 2015
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=em-uploademail&v=CRzL5G9d0wA

Breeze

16th February 2015, 09:54

Thank you Ria for posting this interview.

Also I send a big thank you to Alfred Webre for having the courage to cover this shocking and disturbing story, as sadly much of the alternative media have ignored it. And god bless all those who are proffessionally working on assisting these children and doing all they can for this case to be properly investigated.

Around 8 minutes into this video, Alfred mentions another parent contacted him whose child went to this Hampstead school and explains how her child would come home with very strange stories; and how she the parent was invited into this secret cult; the parent obviously said 'NO'!

This story is real, although officialdom is trying desperately to sweep this case under the carpet and to be out of sight and forgotten.

Please listen to this interview, as it gives an overview of what is at stake here, that is happening in present real-time. I am hoping public awareness will encourage a proper and 'truthful' official investigation. So far as it stands, no investigation is occurring and these children are all still within the lions den and not safe.

I have embedded Alfred's interview into this post for easy access.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=em-uploademail&v=CRzL5G9d0wA&app=desktop

Please also send focussed prayers to the mother today and the next number of days, as court re-starts; ironically only the mother is at present on trial for her 'supposed' lack of protecting the children - huh!?! The injustice and cover-up happening in this case is distrubingly shocking. If nothing changes, these children who whistleblowed will be returned to the residential care of the father, the very person these children 'named' as threatening their lives if they ever spoke about the cult secrets. :fpalm:

Here is the petition link if you feel moved to sign it. It needs 100,000 signatures for this case to be discussed in parliament. (count signed so far 7,662)

https://www.change.org/p/the-rt-hon-theresa-may-mp-return-whistleblower-kids-and-abuse-survivors-of-london-school-to-their-russian-family

Sooz

16th February 2015, 10:13

I've been following this the last few days. Please sign the petition if you have not done so.

These children need to go back to their Mother. I simply cannot post what stuff I've read, it's too much in scale. Besides I don't want to name names due to forum rules. But if you do the research within all these links and elsewhere provided on the net, you will find links. That's all I can say.

Click on the link and scroll down to sign the petition. Thank you.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/02/12/whistleblower-kids-expose-satanic-pedophile-ring-in-schoolchurch-they-need-our-help/

Edit: Sorry Breeze - oh well, a double call to action!

Sooz

16th February 2015, 10:23

Ria

16th February 2015, 10:32

Sooz just having a discussion about how appathitic everyone is and not pulling there weight, this a game changer if everyone pulled together.

The One

16th February 2015, 10:50

Can I also say two things:

Many of the original links have been taken down. Many thanks to those who have copied and reposted. Not just here but wherever they can.

Secondly I am most disappointed that people on this forum have not done their bit, except for a minor few. The pitiful amount of thanks on posts leaves me shaking my head.

Let's see if I this thread now picks up with people attacking me now for my words above. When it should be attracting attention for the original intention.

Wow wow and wow

Let's see if I this thread now picks up with people attacking me now for my words above. When it should be attracting attention for the original intention

I thought i had done with all the childish remarks obviously not.

Where do i start,for one yes this is truly shocking and lets hope all those involved in this will be brought to justice.I am aware that some members are going out their way toi post about this topic here there and everywhere and that is fine with me but do not blame members of this forum if they do not want to participate in this subject matter.And another thing most of the members might not have the time and resources to do this

OMG Just because some members don't want to participate in this subject matter does not mean we don't think its awful.

Sooz

16th February 2015, 10:58

Sooz just having a discussion about how appathitic everyone is and not pulling there weight, this a game changer if everyone pulled together.

I agree Ria, no-one seems to care. Or too scared of the legal ramifications. I think we are all being very careful about that for Malc's sake. And I think that is the right thing to do.

However, there are children at risk here. But we are treading on eggshells. I'm not sure what is the right thing to do in any direction.

(Deleted a lot of what I wanted to write in the interest of legality).

Sooz

16th February 2015, 11:16

Wow wow and wow

I thought i had done with all the childish remarks obviously not.

Where do i start,for one yes this is truly shocking and lets hope all those involved in this will be brought to justice.I am aware that some members are going out their way toi post about this topic here there and everywhere and that is fine with me but do not blame members of this forum if they do not want to participate in this subject matter.And another thing most of the members might not have the time and resources to do this

OMG Just because some members don't want to participate in this subject matter does not mean we don't think its awful.

Malc, I rest my case, I got a response with someone attacking me for my words. Why not use your energy in addressing the problem instead of attacking me?

My remarks are childish in wanting to do my utmost in protecting two kids? Really. Go check your head.

I am not blaming anyone. Don't twist my words Malc. I am a busy, working person as you are. But I do use my spare time diligently and prioritise my time accordingly to what is important on my agenda.

I also understand others do as well. This won't win me any brownie points on the forum, but I fail to see how a kitteh thread seems to overrule any other important issues.

As you know I partake of humour and jest and try to be balanced in what I post.

I just cannot stand by and watch this poor woman not being supported, who is going up against the system while her two children have been abused.

I was making a clear observation that this subject seems not to be important on this forum given the attention given to other frivolous threads.

I've only just discovered the unsubscribe button under 'quick links', perhaps I may utilise it.

The One

16th February 2015, 11:16

I agree Ria, no-one seems to care. Or too scared of the legal ramifications. I think we are all being very careful about that for Malc's sake. And I think that is the right thing to do.

However, there are children at risk here. But we are treading on eggshells. I'm not sure what is the right thing to do in any direction.

(Deleted a lot of what I wanted to write in the interest of legality).

No no no no no

If you want to plaster the names and address of all pedo's that have been convicted then be my guest

I agree Ria, no-one seems to care. Or too scared of the legal ramifications. I think we are all being very careful about that for Malc's sake. And I think that is the right thing to do.

I totally disagree with your comments .We do care but like i stated before not everybody wants to talk about it.Now i know for a fact that some members on here including myself that have been abused in our childhood.I could name the abuser who did awful things to me in a children's home back in the 70's but he's been dead for a long time and i choose not to discuss it(that is my choice).But you will probably say i am part of the problem and not the solution.I could explode with what i want to say about my past but i dont.I totally understand why some members find this very hard to talk about.

Ria

16th February 2015, 11:48

Malc do not take what I or Sooz so personally we are aware of your position.

But more importantly so much is at stake here, if we do nothing it will increase to the point where every corner is contaminated. This case also has links to Rotherham via the family (this is massive)
By not getting on board at this time we are giving it the green light.
Further more the legale system is so contaminated it is actively supporting the pedophiles Saturnist.
We can not rely on the law being upheld only being perverted.

Altaira

16th February 2015, 11:51

Malc, I rest my case, I got a response with someone attacking me for my words. Why not use your energy in addressing the problem instead of attacking me?

My remarks are childish in wanting to do my utmost in protecting two kids? Really. Go check your head.

I am not blaming anyone. Don't twist my words Malc. I am a busy, working person as you are. But I do use my spare time diligently and prioritise my time accordingly to what is important on my agenda.

I also understand others do as well. This won't win me any brownie points on the forum, but I fail to see how a kitteh thread seems to overrule any other important issues.

As you know I partake of humour and jest and try to be balanced in what I post.

I just cannot stand by and watch this poor woman not being supported, who is going up against the system while her two children have been abused.

I was making a clear observation that this subject seems not to be important on this forum given the attention given to other frivolous threads.

I've only just discovered the unsubscribe button under 'quick links', perhaps I may utilise it.

As a mod I must say that your input on TOT is great and has always been extremely valuable.
As a member when I read your post about others not being active enough to support the cause you support, I need to say I fully understand what Malc said and he didn't twist your words at all. At least I understood you words in the exactly same ways as Malc did.
I also need to say that many of us here have our opinion on the subject and just because we do not chose to share it doesn't mean we should be given labels. It is our choice whether we will react to this latest hype ( forgive me if I see it this way, I do not wish to argue about it nor to defend my own opinion, it is only mine) or not, it is our choice in what to believe and what to support. Perhaps if we do not see things from your perspective it doesn't mean we are wrong, or bad or negative. It is just our choice and I hope everyone should respect it as we respect yours.
I don't see why this should divert this thread, which is beneficial to everyone.
:back to topic:

The One

16th February 2015, 11:52

Ria

16th February 2015, 12:29

There are many cases right now, that are giving the children over to the pedophiles as a matter of course. I did not know this till now, how wide spread this has become.

Elbie

16th February 2015, 12:45

http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/38/cf/30/00/37.si.jpg
"British intelligence agency MI5 faces allegations it covered up child sex abuse at a care home in east Belfast for decades to protect its intelligence operations, Northern Ireland�s high court will hear on Tuesday.

Victims of child sex abuse which took place in Kincora Boys� Home throughout the 1970s are pursuing a full independent inquiry into the matter.

If successful, the victims� legal challenge will result in a robust inquiry that compels key witnesses to testify. MI5 would also be forced to supply investigators with vital documents.

The Belfast-based court case is the first to address the British state�s alleged links to the notorious care home in the 1970s. It begins on Tuesday, and is expected to continue throughout the week...

'MI5 cover-up'

Colin Wallace, a former military information officer based in Northern Ireland, said British MPs had been deceived about child abuse at Kincora Boys� Home.

He told the Guardian there is undeniable evidence UK government agencies' cover-up of the abuse was concealed from Britain�s Parliament.

However, victims� demand for an inquiry with full powers was backed last week by Britain�s Home Affairs Select Committee.

The committee recommended that Kincora be included in the ongoing child abuse inquiry ordered by Westminster.

Amnesty�s Northern Ireland Program Director, Patrick Corrigan, said the committee�s recommendation was bad news for those who want Kincora�s murky past to remain secret.

�Nothing less than the inclusion of the Kincora home in this inquiry is liable to see the truth finally arrived at and justice finally delivered,� he told RT.

source: http://rt.com/uk/232691-abuse-cover-up-mi5/

Breeze

16th February 2015, 12:59

I would like to share a little window into my reality this past week or so, of what I have personally observed and learned that has been 'outside' of this forum.

I sent out to all my friends information about this present serious case, to people I know whose nature is loving and caring and spiritually minded doing their best to make this world a better place for all. To my dismay, not one of them even acknowledged my email I sent them.

I wrote to numerous top named alternative media groups��.. Again, not one of them responded back or took up the helm to assist.

This past week or so, I have discovered such a dark cesspit involving far too many children around the world over the years whose voices were completely ignored.
Whose safety was ignored.
Whose rights to their own bodies ignored.
Their rights to well beingness ignored.
Their rights to a safe and happy life ignored.

We are talking about hundreds of thousands of children over the decades that have been tortured, abused in the most horrendous ways and ritually sacrificed � yet there are so very few �adults� other than those who were abused demanding justice for the children of this world.

I know a healer friend who works with adults dealing with sexual abuse from their childhood�� I thought this person would understand. Well��I am obviously suffering with naivety, as the conversation turned into (paraphrasing) �children that are sexually abused must karmicly deserve it or else it would not be happening to them. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! I ended the telephone call double quick � left in utter disbelief and dismay of such destructive and dangerous solipsism. Any healer who believes such utter nonsense is not a true healer imo.

I wondered to myself, IF (hypothetically) my next door neighbour was abusing their children then what would my action be? Well I can adamantly say my action would not be putting ear plugs into my ears.

We are the alternative community, and one of the common themes so many agree upon is that �Divine Intervention� is assisting humanity. Lovely idea and yes we certainly do need assistance as the odds of us getting out of this cess pit while psychopaths use technological weapons, mind control etc against humanity is pretty slim.

But here�s my point: what if this �Divine Intervention� is observing how we humans stand up for our brethren. If humanity is stuck in a malaise and apathy not caring nor concerned about our brethren who are suffering � then why should the groups of E.T.�s care? What if the assistance of Divine Intervention can only be �matched� by what humans first instigate for themselves? That in order for Divine Intervention to come into play, it has to be matched halfway by 'US'.

What I have witnessed this week is that the majority of the human race is too busy on other things and lacks too little care for the children - Children that are meant to be the human races Future. You know I honestly thought people would be outraged that such was happening in present time, even if it was just taking 1 minute out of their waking day to at least sign a petition. When did humanity begin to think that ignoring something brings about change? Something very serious is happening to humanities consciousness; my parents and grandparents never thought this way.

David Icke, Bill Maloney and Duncan O�Finnion were right.

Right now I feel ashamed to be human because I too am guilty for not placing enough attention on the children around the world. I will be changing this lethargy in myself. From now on I will not ignore the children�s voices � I cannot sleep peacefully at night knowing somewhere else this hell is still continuing.

And to end my post looking at the bigger reality humanity is facing; I do understand spiritually that this was not the original plan for the human race, it was filled with so many great potentials��.

But here we humans are sadly with the train for cyborgs about to arrive at the station platform very shortly because not enough people were concerned about it.

Forgive us, for we know not what we do.