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Aianawa
9th March 2022, 21:24
https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/fu6227fae8.jpg

Mmm still learning the image stuff but think i now got it here, so one ponders if this was planned, no liability of course and death n harm stats of late , interesting.

Sure more events regards the old narrative before the new narrative ( cesspool Ukraine ) are to come out.

Emil El Zapato
9th March 2022, 21:50
:) ... everytime you fall for it, Aianawa ...

Aianawa
12th March 2022, 04:30
Okay then, your saying it did not happen ?.

donk
12th March 2022, 13:53
What not happen? What do you think you actually posted in the image?

Are you an actual person Verne? Or a failed algorithm of some sort that is a mix of a propaganda bot and a program for a child with learning disabilities?

Aianawa
12th March 2022, 23:16
Though a rough mirror at times i can tell you i am human with a soul Donk.
Clarity regards the Moderna Phizzer etc having to give monthly their conclusions, reports, experiments etc regards their vaxxes, as ordered by courts instead of 55 or 75 year locked up, the 1st stage was 1st march and doctors pro vaxx world wide are astonished that this data was not available to them at the start, a lot of angry scientests and doctors out there atm, hence why conspiring theorists believe wars was needed for narrative change but i will just stick with the facts = a doctor i dislike sharing his understanding of this batch of papers last out 1st march >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YOD9drZasM

He is still pro vaxx but only just i feel.

Aianawa
14th March 2022, 06:02
https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ee622d6b63.jpg

donk
16th March 2022, 14:10
Even a stupid fucking Russian bot can look up Pfizer’s stock and clearly see it listed on the NYSE.

You may be a real person, but your writing (and choices of what to write) indicates your brain does not function like one. Why do you do this?

Aianawa
16th March 2022, 19:07
Wee bit more intricate than you have spelt out Donk but we can both hold our narrative with peace, yes ?.

Lord Sidious
16th March 2022, 21:47
You may be a real person, but your writing (and choices of what to write) indicates your brain does not function like one. Why do you do this?

I understand you're frustrated, but that's a bit rough.

Fred Steeves
16th March 2022, 23:20
https://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ee622d6b63.jpg


Even a stupid fucking Russian bot can look up Pfizer’s stock and clearly see it listed on the NYSE.


Wee bit more intricate than you have spelt out Donk but we can both hold our narrative with peace, yes ?.

Vern, perhaps you can elaborate on the "intricacies"? I could hold a narrative that it's sunny out when others seen rain, so it would obviously be expected of me to provide some sort of content explaining/rationalizing my observation.

It appears you lifted that no link statement from AboveTopSecret, it says what it says, and was easily debunked by donk. It took me an easy 30 second Google search to confirm what he found.

I tracked down where the original piece from, and the advertised heading found at AboveTopSecret came from here:


Pfizer has delisted from the New York Stock Exchange
5 DAYS AGO | By Katja Hamilton | Bizcommunity
Coronavirus was officially declared a pandemic two years ago today (11 March 2020). Ironically today marks the day that Pfizer has been delisted from the New York Stock Exchange. Pfizer filed a Form 25 on 7 March, 2022 with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). The form was a request to delist their securities from the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) and to exit the public market. The Nasdaq delisting notice indicates that the company's last trading day was yesterday (10 March 2022).
https://muckrack.com/katja-hamilton

Click on the story, and the content has been removed. I wonder why?

You could do some of this very basic research yourself if you put your mind to it, separate some wheat from the chaff so to speak, might save on some of the nonsense that tends to aggravate people over time.

Dreamtimer
17th March 2022, 00:07
There is a stock market on the verge of collapse but it is not here in the US. It's in Russia. Which is why it was closed for so many days.

donk
17th March 2022, 05:10
I understand you're frustrated, but that's a bit rough.

I’m sick of the gaslighting, it’s beyond ignorant. I’m tired of his fucking “narrative” of spraying diarrhea all over my “narrative”, the reality I experience, I guess he means.

All of the other shit he sprays normally involves people or some fact we may not be immediately present to experience, and so many breaks given. But stating twice (including the title of thread) that a stock is not listed on an exchange…when takes half a second to look to find his “narrative” is 2+2=5.

It’s beyond frustrating, it’s fucking offensive.

Aianawa
17th March 2022, 05:24
You all here are aware that Pfizer wished to keep secret all pre emergency drug trials, workings, results etc for 75 years and this was turned down by a judge who mandated them to release to the people each month a certain amount of documents the first being on the 1st march next being on 1st april, iirc Pziser dropped a lot of it's divisions etc and remained under a shell as such so as not to be so obvious as these documents come out, themselves saying little of this till doctors and researchers started going why was this data not available way back when and who knew the data in real time, sure if you have talked or seen doctors both pro and not vaxx going over their data pziser put out 1st march in disbelief, you will understand.

So parts of the old pziser are no longer under the new pziser

Ps oh and created more divisions etc by buying other new assets.

Aianawa
17th March 2022, 05:31
Donk i have been incorrect a few times over the years here, usualllly owned up and moved forward, got banned for bringing forward the latest Ivermectin peer reviewed highly accurate and biggest ever trials which negated completely the DS narrative, especialllly deaths wise = banned for a month.

These are happy amazing times as humanity moves forward evolving past divisivness and inability to hold more than one narrative and divine dichotomies are our imo big micro n macro steps.

donk
17th March 2022, 13:33
You all here are aware that Pfizer wished to keep secret all pre emergency drug trials, workings, results etc for 75 years and this was turned down by a judge who mandated them to release to the people each month a certain amount of documents the first being on the 1st march next being on 1st april, iirc Pziser dropped a lot of it's divisions etc and remained under a shell as such so as not to be so obvious as these documents come out, themselves saying little of this till doctors and researchers started going why was this data not available way back when and who knew the data in real time, sure if you have talked or seen doctors both pro and not vaxx going over their data pziser put out 1st march in disbelief, you will understand.

So parts of the old pziser are no longer under the new pziser

Ps oh and created more divisions etc by buying other new assets.

PFE is…and always has been…listed on the NYSE. You can look up the price right now.

If it did get delisted, which it had in your reality, what does that mean?


Donk i have been incorrect a few times over the years here, usualllly owned up and moved forward, got banned for bringing forward the latest Ivermectin peer reviewed highly accurate and biggest ever trials which negated completely the DS narrative, especialllly deaths wise = banned for a month.

These are happy amazing times as humanity moves forward evolving past divisivness and inability to hold more than one narrative and divine dichotomies are our imo big micro n macro steps.

More gaslighting. What exactly is your purpose of sharing your narrative?

Lord Sidious
17th March 2022, 15:04
Donknugget, I would suggest strongly that you find out what ''gaslighting'' actually is.
I don't see the kiwinugget doing that.

Aianawa
17th March 2022, 20:59
I dont know, why are you needing your narrative.

donk
18th March 2022, 06:05
Donknugget, I would suggest strongly that you find out what ''gaslighting'' actually is.
I don't see the kiwinugget doing that.

My understanding was that it meant making someone else question their reality.

I wasn’t implying he was good at it. Or even doing it on purpose.

Thinking maybe his mind is so different (as I mention in the earlier comment you called out) that he doesn’t realize he’s doing it.

But that’s what I’m calling it…what would you? Are you suggesting he’s so self-absorbed that his words/narrative/reality should have no effect on anyone else?

If I post “the sky is the same color as a tomato”, and proceed to contribute more words and energy in repeating that…wtf would you call what am I doing?

donk
18th March 2022, 06:13
I dont know, why are you needing your narrative.

I don’t need shit, I’m just trying to figure wtf you are doing

Do you understand that this reality that you live in, that i and everyone else here also inhabit, has Pfizer listed on the NYSE?

And if not, then wtf does it mean to exist in “your narrative”? Why do you repeat things that are demonstrably false?

Aianawa
18th March 2022, 08:18
Well have left it to friends to go over the Pziser data, that know more than i do, doctors etc, all of them are worried and pziser does not give two hoots because ?, as i said it appears very intricate.

Lord Sidious
18th March 2022, 19:57
My understanding was that it meant making someone else question their reality.

I wasn’t implying he was good at it. Or even doing it on purpose.

Thinking maybe his mind is so different (as I mention in the earlier comment you called out) that he doesn’t realize he’s doing it.

But that’s what I’m calling it…what would you? Are you suggesting he’s so self-absorbed that his words/narrative/reality should have no effect on anyone else?

If I post “the sky is the same color as a tomato”, and proceed to contribute more words and energy in repeating that…wtf would you call what am I doing?

If I want to suggest x, I will say that.
If I don't, I ain't suggesting shit....................

donk
19th March 2022, 01:25
If I want to suggest x, I will say that.
If I don't, I ain't suggesting shit....................

Well what is gaslighting, then? I want to know/share an actual reality we agree on. Verne’s has always bugged me, but this shit is too far.

I’ve lived with a pathological liar who believed her own lies as soon as she told them to herself. This nonsense is different from that. Guess that’s why it triggers me. I hate when someone tells me (and those around me) that down is actually up

Aragorn…would you say I’m being unfair? Some of the shit he’s said to you set me off in the past. Insists on a reality the complete opposite of what we are actually looking at.

Aianawa
19th March 2022, 02:02
Well okay then, a lot of the reality is what was once true for all of us now changing, evolving imo, but yes realities are changing, just look at how many people did not bite the > Ukraine ukraine borders, ukraine replacing the continual fear fear this fear thaty virus fear the conspiracy truthers, fear trump and Q 24/7 4 5 years, imo Donk i still have much oh my reality in atm change, not imo many have not gone into this process because of much in version, heck putin put oil up mmm do you believe that Donk, USA is in a great place, amazing even say biden and kam kam, Donk that is inversion and is many peoples reality because Kam kam n bidens puppeteers told them so, imo Trump did this also in a different inversion way.

These are imo the happiest of times with lots of added inversions.

Wind
19th March 2022, 02:33
These are imo the happiest of times

For whom?

Aianawa
19th March 2022, 02:36
Truth is truth n pov is GRRRRR unless it is ok then again truth imo n pov

Never has the veil been thinner Wind
the opportunity to evolve clearer
synchronicity as welcome n obvious

Aragorn
19th March 2022, 04:25
Aragorn…would you say I’m being unfair? Some of the shit he’s said to you set me off in the past. Insists on a reality the complete opposite of what we are actually looking at.

I don't think you're being unfair, but I do think you're being rude with Vern at times. I understand your frustration — believe me, I do — and I personally feel that Vern doesn't have both of his feet on the ground, and that he's buying into too many storytellers out on the internet. He also has a knee-jerk prejudice against science, education and anything that could be considered mainstream, which automatically makes him accept whatever the other narrative may be. And I'm not talking behind his back here, because I've already told him all of the above to his face, as it were.

Still, there is such a thing as tackling the message instead of the messenger, and even though it may be hard to restrain yourself — again, I know — it still bears preference to bite your teeth and remain civil, no matter how heated-up your emotions. You can still say the same thing without having to resort to insults, if you know what I mean.

:unsure:

donk
19th March 2022, 15:21
They may look like insults, but it is my honest thoughts and feelings about what a grown man is choosing to do. If you are concerned with my tone in the sense you feel it is ableism or bullying, well he invoked the emotion from not only this...but what I see you address with him ever so patiently, time and time again. Every single time, he proves to be unwilling or incapable of considering anyone else's thoughts and feelings...and as he beautifully demonstrates on this thread, completely deflects or ignore (or maybe does not comprehend) any direct, specific issues that would make the exchange a conversation (or argument)...just going off on a completely unrelated free association word salad rant from one word or thought. I kept pushing here in this case, to see if he is capable of having a conversation--and failing that, express my perspective and opinion about it in one of the many** threads with an easily disprovable statement of fact remains in the title:

"Pfizer removed from stock exchange"

When I was initially triggered, sparking what you consider insults...I gave him every opportunity to correct himself, or at least explain why he wrote it, and then even begged him to explain what it would mean in a universe where it was true. He chose again and again to do whatever it is you consider it is that he did. Me, I am trying to figure it out...and the more I dig here, the more maybe that looks like "ableism"? It was shitty whatever word choice I used to imply he may not think like a "normal" person or whatever said, but it was honest--do we just not consider him capable of addressing a specific thought or answering a direct question?

Back to the specific case, as Fred pointed out, the concept I called him out could only be found at the time in one article that was already removed from every place it was published. You do not even need to know the ticker of a stock to be able to do a search and see that Pfizer's is listed. ONE time he could have acknowledged that this was my concern....I would not have expected him to say "oh silly me, we should correct the title...and this why I thought that it was important to share in the first place". Or even, well donk you fell for "their" narrative again, it is not REALLY listed on a stock exchange, don't believe the rest of the finance industry and this is why...." or anything in between.

But what does he do? The FOX News mastered method of rambling on a tangent about big pharma or whateverthefuck. It does not matter to him that he is leaving a shit trail of untrue statements that he has been directly told are false, and does not address at all not only why he chose to say it in the first place...but also will not explain why saying that (at this point, can we consider it "spreading dis/mis- info"?)...hence my "diarrhea" comment, which I guess is more colorful than other people calling out "bullshit", making it an "insult"? Whatever you call it, it is not isolated here, he continually blasts it all over the place....and the reason I chose here is that anyone outside of his own brain that believes that PFE is not on the NYSE (I would post screenprint here if I took the time to learn forum mechanics), I do not consider their brain function as "normal". Sorry, I do not know a nicer way to say it without being succinct--but that should not take away from the point.

If anyone else did that, would you NOT consider it gaslighting? Do we have to treat or speak of Verne differently because of some special "differentness" that he has?

This is a forum, him posting his thoughts is an invitation for others to share theirs, about them. I feel my "insults" add more value, have more place in a forum, than his propaganda he spouts of buzzwords from his space in his noosphere (or whatever)

Aragorn
19th March 2022, 19:56
They may look like insults, but it is my honest thoughts and feelings about what a grown man is choosing to do. If you are concerned with my tone in the sense you feel it is ableism or bullying, well he invoked the emotion from not only this...but what I see you address with him ever so patiently, time and time again. Every single time, he proves to be unwilling or incapable of considering anyone else's thoughts and feelings...and as he beautifully demonstrates on this thread, completely deflects or ignore (or maybe does not comprehend) any direct, specific issues that would make the exchange a conversation (or argument)...just going off on a completely unrelated free association word salad rant from one word or thought. I kept pushing here in this case, to see if he is capable of having a conversation--and failing that, express my perspective and opinion about it in one of the many** threads with an easily disprovable statement of fact remains in the title:

"Pfizer removed from stock exchange"

When I was initially triggered, sparking what you consider insults...I gave him every opportunity to correct himself, or at least explain why he wrote it, and then even begged him to explain what it would mean in a universe where it was true. He chose again and again to do whatever it is you consider it is that he did. Me, I am trying to figure it out...and the more I dig here, the more maybe that looks like "ableism"? It was shitty whatever word choice I used to imply he may not think like a "normal" person or whatever said, but it was honest--do we just not consider him capable of addressing a specific thought or answering a direct question?

Back to the specific case, as Fred pointed out, the concept I called him out could only be found at the time in one article that was already removed from every place it was published. You do not even need to know the ticker of a stock to be able to do a search and see that Pfizer's is listed. ONE time he could have acknowledged that this was my concern....I would not have expected him to say "oh silly me, we should correct the title...and this why I thought that it was important to share in the first place". Or even, well donk you fell for "their" narrative again, it is not REALLY listed on a stock exchange, don't believe the rest of the finance industry and this is why...." or anything in between.

But what does he do? The FOX News mastered method of rambling on a tangent about big pharma or whateverthefuck. It does not matter to him that he is leaving a shit trail of untrue statements that he has been directly told are false, and does not address at all not only why he chose to say it in the first place...but also will not explain why saying that (at this point, can we consider it "spreading dis/mis- info"?)...hence my "diarrhea" comment, which I guess is more colorful than other people calling out "bullshit", making it an "insult"? Whatever you call it, it is not isolated here, he continually blasts it all over the place....and the reason I chose here is that anyone outside of his own brain that believes that PFE is not on the NYSE (I would post screenprint here if I took the time to learn forum mechanics), I do not consider their brain function as "normal". Sorry, I do not know a nicer way to say it without being succinct--but that should not take away from the point.

If anyone else did that, would you NOT consider it gaslighting? Do we have to treat or speak of Verne differently because of some special "differentness" that he has?

This is a forum, him posting his thoughts is an invitation for others to share theirs, about them. I feel my "insults" add more value, have more place in a forum, than his propaganda he spouts of buzzwords from his space in his noosphere (or whatever)

Like I said, Phil, I do fully understand where you're coming from. I really do. And I know you're a good guy, so I'm not holding anything against you. ;) :beer:

Still, "gaslighting" is not the word I'd use for what Vern is doing, because Vern truly and genuinely believes what he's saying. That's why I've already told him several times now — and even somewhat in anger, which is why I can relate to how you're feeling right now — that he's not living in the same universe as the rest of us.

As you say, the evidence of the contrary to what Vern claims — and now that I'm thinking of it, this thread should go under the misinformation category, and I'll be moving it there as soon as I've submitted this post — is only a few mouse clicks away for anyone caring enough to know the truth. I don't know why, but somehow Vern doesn't grasp the concept of vetting his information feed, which makes him into a very bad researcher and — even worse — a propagator of misinformation and disinformation. I think he's being highly irresponsible in that, but at the same time, I also cannot deny that for all of his woo-woo and naiveté, Vern is a good and kindhearted person who truly means well.

And that is what makes this so difficult for us as staff members, and for myself as an individual, which is why I myself generally don't even look at his threads anymore, because I know it'll put me into that tough spot again where I'm being torn between wanting to give the guy a hug and wanting to slap him upside the head a couple of times.

:unsure:

donk
20th March 2022, 05:10
I just feel bad for you and malc…and the rest of us.

Actually, that’s not entirely true…it’s not “just” that.

I have always used these internet forums for two things:

1. a community of (relatively) diverse individuals with different perspective from “meat space” (member that?)

2. To interact with people here that have similar thought patterns or tendencies or whatever as the people I have to deal with in said “meatspace” that are difficult for me to empathize and/or communicate with.

I do have a bit of an emotional attachment to this place and you guys…but if you haven’t noticed, I put more time in my real life than writing here. I have always found time for reading. It’s a favorite hangout.

I was in deep early on at the other place, and it makes sense because I needed escape from real life. My reality is really so much better now on so many levels, but it’s in a way that I couldn’t invest as much energy if I wanted to.

This whole shit is a parallel to some shit I have to deal with in family. It’s so frustrating having a person like in a position where they can’t be addressed…for pretty much the reasons everyone here has said. It sucks.

I think it’s important to share a reality. That truth=love=light=information

And that’s losing to lies/hate/darkness/ignorance

And on a forum called “one truth”, someone whose reality different than that should not get to shit the place up

donk
20th March 2022, 05:19
I hear you say that you don’t think it’s “gaslighting”, fine…to my mind the concept does not require malicious intent. What do you call the idea of living in a completely different reality from the rest of the people you share it with, and refusing to even try to attempt to even move in a direction toward the community?

I am not going back to look for examples, but from my shitty memory I consider you a solid “expert” on the non-racist “n” word. “Gaslighting” already caused too many problems, and I am not saying you ever accused him of behavior approaching that…but I got to ask, do you think there’s such a thing as a harmless one of those?

I don’t think it’s ever ok to try to make someone else live in (or even tell about) a reality where 2+2=5. At least not being able to respond to direct questioning about it. It’s malicious regardless of how “sweet” he presented himself to be (to you).

Why do you give him a pass?

If I joined as a super polite Gracy May character and gained the familiarity of the community and I posted a thread titled “Sidney Powell was murdered and every judge that struck down her lawsuits are antifa”, and then ya ask donkGM “I literally watched that psycho livestream 2 mins ago, why would you post she was dead?”, and donkGM replied, well blah blah blah and nothing related to question. Is no one allowed to question my purpose?

And I know you are allowing it…it’s rhetorical of course. Had to give ya one

donk
20th March 2022, 05:37
And you shouldn’t bury this in misinfo with the rest of the dogshit threads he created for whatever reason. You should make it private and change the title to “donk accuses Aianawa of gaslighting”

Aragorn
20th March 2022, 06:49
I hear you say that you don’t think it’s “gaslighting”, fine…to my mind the concept does not require malicious intent. What do you call the idea of living in a completely different reality from the rest of the people you share it with, and refusing to even try to attempt to even move in a direction toward the community?

I call it "being out of touch with reality, in combination with being in denial about it".

For me, the word "gaslighting" implies malicious intent, and I don't see any malice in Vern. He truly believes all of the nonsense he posts, and he doesn't even seem to grasp that nobody here is buying what he sells. :noidea:


“Gaslighting” already caused too many problems, and I am not saying you ever accused him of behavior approaching that…but I got to ask, do you think there’s such a thing as a harmless one of those?

I do not — and I'm speaking for my colleagues as well here — consider what Vern is doing as harmless, neither to himself, nor to anyone who visits this forum and stumbles upon his misinformation. That's why we're slapping him upside the head all the time.


II don’t think it’s ever ok to try to make someone else live in (or even tell about) a reality where 2+2=5. At least not being able to respond to direct questioning about it. It’s malicious regardless of how “sweet” he presented himself to be (to you).

Why do you give him a pass?

Compassion, friendship, sympathy... You name it. :scrhd:


IIf I joined as a super polite Gracy May character and gained the familiarity of the community and I posted a thread titled “Sidney Powell was murdered and every judge that struck down her lawsuits are antifa”, and then ya ask donkGM “I literally watched that psycho livestream 2 mins ago, why would you post she was dead?”, and donkGM replied, well blah blah blah and nothing related to question. Is no one allowed to question my purpose?

Yes, it would be open to questioning — most certainly. But we've known Vern for now — what is it? — seven years or so, and we know he's not malevolent. That doesn't make it right that he's spreading misinformation, and we're also not blind to when he's doing it. On the contrary, we take him to ask about it, and we've made it clear to him that something's got to give. Either he'll change his ways and do away with his prejudices and his gullibility, or else we're going to have to retire him — not ban him like they did at Project Avalon, because that would be unnecessarily cruel.

And for everyone's sake, we're still hoping he'll come to see the light before we're running out of patience. Like I said, something's got to give. :unsure:

Wind
20th March 2022, 16:08
Vern is the true dumpster diver and he brings the garbage in. "One man's trash is another man's treasure."

We and Aragorn have been very patient with him and his disinfo, sadly this alternative community has lots of people with poor discernment and researching skills. As Aragorn said though, that doesn't make them bad people. Only gullible and ignorant people, but it's not a sin. Then again, "normal" people should start to learn what is true and what is not.