Vaccine Fraud

[Sooz]

Always when there is an outbreak of some illness, the 'vaccine avoiders' are to blame. Big Pharma order their PR* agencies onto mainstream media and do a hatchet job on demonising them, pitting family against family.:(

And they do the whole shebang; the media is strategically booked using tightly controlled demographics, across radio, print, TV, web and also the message is interwoven into sit com story plots.

Big Pharma is big business and they don't want critical thinking upstarts to play around with their bottom line, so they use their dollars at the first sign of trouble.

Keep this little gem up your sleeve:

http://www.naturalnews.com/042864_measles_outbreak_mumps_vaccines_scientific_ fraud.html

*I should know, I used to work in this industry. Seen it all folks.

[Sooz]

There ya go, Big Pharma in a nutshell....:(

[url]http://www.counterthink.com/Million_Dollar_Woman.asp[/url

Edit: Oh, now why didn't that work? The link that is...

Lol....Twirled one, can you help me out here?:frantic::ok::ireful::cracky::spinning::pc:

[Sooz]

Trying this cartoon again:

http://www.counterthink.com/Million_Dollar_Woman.asp

Yay!:winner:

Credit: Mike Adams of Natural News

[Calabash]

Always when there is an outbreak of some illness, the 'vaccine avoiders' are to blame. Big Pharma order their PR* agencies onto mainstream media and do a hatchet job on demonising them, pitting family against family.:(

And they do the whole shebang; the media is strategically booked using tightly controlled demographics, across radio, print, TV, web and also the message is interwoven into sit com story plots.

Big Pharma is big business and they don't want critical thinking upstarts to play around with their bottom line, so they use their dollars at the first sign of trouble.

Keep this little gem up your sleeve:

http://www.naturalnews.com/042864_measles_outbreak_mumps_vaccines_scientific_ fraud.html

*I should know, I used to work in this industry. Seen it all folks.

When you worked in the industry Sooz was vaccination compulsory for workers?

For everyone - - is there anyone on the forum who's never been vaccinated and if so have they had the major illnesses that the majority of us have been vaccinated against?

[Spiral]

There ya go, Big Pharma in a nutshell....:(

[url]http://www.counterthink.com/Million_Dollar_Woman.asp[/url

Edit: Oh, now why didn't that work? The link that is...

Lol....Twirled one, can you help me out here?:frantic::ok::ireful::cracky::spinning::pc:

You have deleted the square bracket that should be after [/url thats why it doesn't show.

You can actually embed images like that on the forum quite easily (once you get the hang of it, have a go on the sandbox thread http://jandeane81.com/threads/90-Sandbox-Thread/page5?highlight=sandbox+thread )

All you have to do is right click over the desired image, a grey box will appear with various options, you want copy image location (it may say copy image address in your browser), left click on that.

Then here on TOT you will see an icon with a tree in it next to the video one, if you hover your cursor over it the words "insert image" appear, click on that & then right click & then left click "paste", click "OK" and the image will appear when you post your reply.

[KosmicKat]

I can see how the profit-driven model of the U.S. may have crippled the effectiveness of caring medicine, but I have to say that before the polio vaccine was widely distributed (I was born in the U.K.) my late father was a victim of polio and it was my mother who nursed him back to health. And he was fortunate enough to be young enough and strong enough not to have been affected acutely enough that he would have to spend the rest of his life on a ventilator.

My own belief is that vaccines can help, if the science is honest as pointed out in the first article. Otherwise, we risk ending up in a similar situation to Baron Harkonnen of "Dune" with a physician lovingly tending our diseases for a lifetime.

[Frances]

In answer to your question Linda.
I had an illness 2002. That illness made me entitled to the flu jab yearly. Which I received each year.
I have not had the flu since but I have had the occasional viral attack.
The attacks were not severe like the true flu, but made me realise that they would have been had I not had the jabs.
Frances.

Think I misread your question Linda but I leave my reply just the same.

[Melidae]

I've been looking into vaccines for quite a while. A good place to start is with the book "Dr. Marys Monkey...or just watch the video...


Dr. Mary's Monkey: How the Unsolved Murder of a Doctor, a Secret Laboratory in New Orleans and Cancer-Causing Monkey Viruses are Linked to Lee Harvey Oswald, the JFK Assassination and Emerging Global Epidemics



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ5-liXcXLI

Interesting articles can be found at http://polioforever.wordpress.com/...


“The Salk vaccine was a massive radiation experiment...


…that paved the way for a New Biology”

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April 1955.

The desperately-awaited Salk IPV, which promised to end the polio epidemics sweeping the country, was announced with great fanfare on April 12, in the midst of Operation Teapot. http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Teapot.html Jonas Salk had made it known since 1952 that he believed he had the “right” formula. 1952 was the year with the most number of polio cases on record in the U.S. Only one year before, in January of ’51, the Nevada Proving Ground (NTS) was activated for testing, initiated by Project Ranger which sent radioactive plumes streaming over the northern half of the nation, leaving radioactive snow on the ground in places like Michigan and New York. Also in 1951, the cells of a particularly aggressive cancer, called HeLa, were taken from a dying patient and distributed for poliovirus vaccine research.

No one has ever officially told the public that polio in humans was a result of radiation. An even greater omission suggested by research is that the polio vaccines were conceived or promoted as “dual-purpose” cancer prevention. When the Salk IPV had been administered to roughly half of America’s youth population, the military launched its most ambitious and “dirty” atomic weapons tests, initiating the period of peak atmospheric fallout. But that is just an aspect of the 1950s and the Cold War. The greater Whole includes present-day vaccines, unprecendented emerging disease and the genetic engineering of plants, animals and people. Polio Forever is an effort to tell the Whole story.

More info at http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/tragic-mistake-or-deliberate-plan-30-million-people-injected-with-mandatory-vaccination-containing-live-sv40-cancer-virus-07172013..."Tragic Mistake Or Deliberate Plan? 30 Million People Injected with Mandatory Vaccination Containing Live SV40 Cancer Virus"

I have a few more links if anyone is interested.

[BabaRa]

I can see how the profit-driven model of the U.S. may have crippled the effectiveness of caring medicine, but I have to say that before the polio vaccine was widely distributed (I was born in the U.K.) my late father was a victim of polio and it was my mother who nursed him back to health. And he was fortunate enough to be young enough and strong enough not to have been affected acutely enough that he would have to spend the rest of his life on a ventilator.

My own belief is that vaccines can help, if the science is honest as pointed out in the first article. Otherwise, we risk ending up in a similar situation to Baron Harkonnen of "Dune" with a physician lovingly tending our diseases for a lifetime.


You nailed it with: "If science is honest". I would add to that: If Pharma companies are honest. And I think we know the answer to that - money doesn't just "talk" to them, it shouts.

I have so many mixed feelings on this subject. I think the only 2 vaccinations I've ever gotten was for small pox when I was young and for polio when I was in high school. Nothing since. I'm now in my 70's. Never get the flu shot and never get the flu. I would say on a scale of 1 to 10, I'm a 9 when it comes to health (but not looks, darn it!!)

I hear what you're saying about polio, the vaccination seemed to wipe it out. When I mentioned that fact to a naturopathic doctor who is against vaccinations, she commented: Polio burned itself out, just as the Black Plague did and no vaccination for that!

I do know that when my son was around 2, (40 yrs ago) we gave him a chicken pox vaccination. He came down with a severe case of Herpes Simplex(in his mouth, ears, nose - poor kid was a mess and cried for weeks - and as you probably know once you get it, it remains in your system, so they say). Later, doing research on my own, I found out that anyone with an allergy to eggs, (which we didn't know my son had at the time, but we did know he was sensitive to many foods) should never get a chicken pox vaccination because they would possibly get Herpes. Why didn't my doctor know this, or if he did, why didn't he tell us.

I also know that the vaccines now being used have mercury in them, amongst other toxens. And we give our children in US something like 22 vaccines before the age of 2. What??? Many think that is related to the high Autism rates now, although doctors refute this.

[norman]

The man who knows the statistics from all the research has become a whistle blower.

This Alex Jones Show from Sunday 7th Sep 2014 looks at the issue:

( go to the second Hour )

http://www.mixcloud.com/TheAlexJonesShow/alex-jones-2014-sep-07-sunday/

[norman]

I've been looking into vaccines for quite a while. A good place to start is with the book "Dr. Marys Monkey...or just watch the video...





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ5-liXcXLI

Interesting articles can be found at http://polioforever.wordpress.com/...



More info at http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/tragic-mistake-or-deliberate-plan-30-million-people-injected-with-mandatory-vaccination-containing-live-sv40-cancer-virus-07172013..."Tragic Mistake Or Deliberate Plan? 30 Million People Injected with Mandatory Vaccination Containing Live SV40 Cancer Virus"

I have a few more links if anyone is interested.


BUMP !

Thank you Melidae. The Dr Mary's Monkey interview is fascinating.

To anyone who has not yet listened to it, I say find the time and listen, it's a big chunk of modern history gone wrong.

[Melidae]

So glad you took the time to watch the video, norman.

I started searching for anything to do with vaccines after my grandson (who is now 5-1/2 years old) received the MMR vaccine when he was an infant. He had been very alert, energetic and smart for his age until he received the vaccine. He became lethargic...dark circles under his eyes and his eyes seemed to change...a lot of the things he could do prior to the vaccine he could no longer do and had to relearn...and more. It broke my heart to witness such a sudden change in him. That's when I came across "Dr. Mary's Monkey".

A lot of information on the vaccine hoax has been removed from the internet in the last few years. Thank goodness for whistleblowers.

[norman]

My brand new grandson noticeably took on a new facial 'look' as soon as he had his first "jab".

I'd already tried to get his mum to check out the vaccination issue but she blanked me about it and I didn't push it further.

I have to report that, so far, my grandson seems to be developing well and no one is sensing anything bad about that "shift" I noticed at the time.

Bottom line IS: as long as he's doing well I have to shut up about these things. As I obviously prefer that he IS doing well, I'm having to get my head around the idea that 'normal' people want me to be positive, not negative. If no one was ever damaged by vaccination that would make perfect sense to me. But, a lot of people obviously ARE damaged by it, so there's a balancing act to be made out of keeping family matters liquid and happy.

[Melidae]

I hear you, norman. It's a balancing act between what you know and what they believe...and they are the parents...the final decision is theirs.

I would say my piece to my daughter and then keep quiet. I was not about to have an argument about it...it wasn't worth risking our close relationship over. My grandson is doing very well in kindergarten, laughs often, loves much, and is a bundle of energy...no obvious long term effects so far.

I was quite surprised when my daughter told me she fought the requirement for him to have certain vaccines before entering kindergarten. I gave her the 'raised eyebrow' and she just grinned...."I do my research, too." Quite a turn around. Love it.

[norman]

Infowars report on vaccination lies:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9XRbjOQDvY


http://i.stack.imgur.com/OGI1u.jpg

[modwiz]

Infowars report on vaccination lies:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9XRbjOQDvY

This info cannot be repeated enough. Even the awake and aware crowd is confused about a straightforward issue. Buying into medical malarkey is a mental/emotional grip many will not release. It is a deep mind virus that only a miniscule few actually escape from. Vax's play into that with relish and gusto. Gardisil a crime at every level, including well intentioned but dim-witted parents. Making decisions far beyond their capacity to care for children properly. Of course, that is all figured in to Dr. Evil's plans. Proving how ignorant people are, justifies their maltreatment of them in their psychopathic minds. Bad genes destined for the dust heap.

Time for the bad genes to speak up and prove them wrong. If they can. I had to stand my ground at the hospital when they wanted to inject my hours old son with MMR. They asked a few times. Had to decline a few offers of circumcision too. After five months he passed out of my life and care. I have not inquired as to what happened after that. What is done, is done. He should be fine. He has good genes.

[Sooz]

I had forgotten about this thread.

Here are some very graphic pictures of vaccines gone wrong. From Mike Adams of Natural News.

WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC AND DISTURBING IMAGES, VIEW WITH CAUTION.

http://www.naturalnews.com/048691_vaccine_damaged_children_graphic_photos_med ical_mutilation.html

[Altaira]

I found this video that explains the mechanism of the vaccines using a very scientific but understandable language. Dr. Blaylock talks about the mechanism of the brain development and how the vaccines inflict serious brain injuries during this stage and later in the adult life

It is a very good material for those who are wondering what happens to the young organism when it is intoxicated with vaccines.
This also explains how the mercury toxicity affects the neural system and causes all array of symptoms wrongly diagnosed as depression, anxiety and other psychiatric conditions.
There is a good summary of the whole lecture in the Youtube under the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS0ioiB0_oY

[Sooz]

Here in Oz we are being hammered hard with regard to vaccines. If you don't vaccinate your children you miss out on family/child care benefits to the tune of $15,000 per annum.

There was even talk the other day on mainstream media that flu shots should be mandatory! For everyone!!
I can see a future where if you are to get any welfare benefits at all, you will have take a shot. 'Shot' being the operative word.

There are millions in the position where they need that gubbermint assistance, and simply from a fiscal POV, cannot afford not to vaccinate. It's evil!

Next time you are in a debate about the pros and cons of vaccines, have this handy on your tablet/iPad/smartphone to show people.

800 kids compensated by Big Pharma for vaccine brain damage. How this eventuated, I don't know, because I thought Big Pharma was immune (no pun intended) to being sued in the courts, but apparently it happened.

A big win. Doesn't help the brain damaged kids much though, does it?

http://www.hangthebankers.com/children-compensated-brain-damaged-vaccines/

[Sooz]

Here is more Oz mainstream crap demonising anti-vaxxers:

http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-vaccination-skeptics-network-compares-vaccines-to-rape-20150422-1mr0wk.html

[Aianawa]

Great interview >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=336&v=Xeqa9Fsf-Lg&feature=emb_logo

[Amanda]

I'd like to contribute to this thread. During the enormous sharing of information regarding the current event -vaccines are being mentioned an awful lot - coupled with the word mandatory and/or forced.

Firstly the question in this thread was asked about personal experiences with vaccines. I cannot recall my early childhood ('62 model) years but I recall clearly at High School all the girls - we were about 14/15 years of age were given the Rubella vaccine. It was explained that it was 'specifically' to target measles during pregnancy. I have always been a deep thinker and could not help but think this: The government is assuming every single girl is going to get pregnant - whether via accident or by planning?????

Needless to say I had already made a decision not to have Children - no one came along to change my mind and I am okay - no regrets. I have other factors that impacted on my early decision making but that vaccine during high school cemented my decision. As a moot point I have taught High School Sex Education and Students sometimes ask if I am married and/or have Children. They inevitably ask why I have no Children and I tell them simply I made the decision when I was 15 and no one changed my mind - one particular class I asked them whether anyone had made any decisions. They were all around 15 years of age - I was surprised that some indicated they wanted children and others - just like me - had already decided against. It is not easy to surprise me - but - that day I was ....


Vaccines - As an adult I joined the Police Service in Australia. As part of my application I had to supply a medical certificate for Hepatitis B vaccination. Course of 3 - initial - then 2/3 weeks later and final 2/3 months later. Cannot recall the times in between injections but I completed the course. The doctor supplied my certificate and told me - I did not convert. She stated all medical staff have to have the vaccine and she told me a very high percentage (cannot recall the % she cited) of those people don't convert. I recall an officer stating Hep B vaccines were in the fridge in the station mealroom. Those were for additional vaccines. Anyone here know - do hep b vaccines have a use by date? As in did my initial vaccines have to be added to years later - to keep me (supposedly) vaccinated????

Influenza - I never understood what People were talking about when they had the flu - the body aches and nausea along with the runny/blocked nose et cetera. Never had the flu ever - until - working in a private school with a clinic and full time nurse. Staff were offered free flu vaccines. I accepted the offer - I've never been so sick in my life - first time I ever had the flu - I was in my 40's. Up until then maybe a random cold but never seasonal - when I type the word random - I mean random as in very seldom. Even when I lived in a large capital city - never the flu.

Okay here's what I learned about vaccines as a Child Abuse Whistleblower. Was approached by a group of parents who were separated/divorced. They wanted assistance with regard to their legal rights when one parent wanted to vaccinate and one did not. I started my research from scratch and even located a legal practitioner in the next inland city to my town - who was already experienced in court with just that situation. Even kept costs down by having expert witness supplied via video link.

Keep in mind I am not a parent - so vaccinating Children is not part of my life. As a result I am not anti vaccine and I am not pro vaccine. I am however very interested in knowing the facts of the chemistry that comes with vitamins as well as pharmaceuticals and colourings and chemicals in processed food and don't forget the pesticides et cetera that are sprayed on growing food. During my research - via magazines and journals et cetera and not just via search engines online - I discovered that there are no medical test papers anywhere. Well there may be but I went looking and could not find any. I did however locate an article in a magazine. A PhD immunologist was tasked to manage an independent study on the efficacy of vaccines. The specialist medical professional stated she could not locate any test papers or documentation. Join your own dots there People.


I want to mention that I have been familiar with the efforts of Dr Wakefield. I even purchased both his books. I always like to hear both sides of a story. His books were not only compelling evidence to support his claims - the science and blind examples (no identifiers) were undeniably true as based on medical evidence - sometimes via two separate medical testing facilities in two different countries.

Loads more I could share - learned an immense amount about vaccines during my research. I even looked at the adjuvants and the chemicals they contained - one by one.



On vaccines and the current event - one theory shared to me (I had not thought of it) is this: Mass unemployment here in Australia so many many many people needing to sign up for Unemployment Benefits. No questions there - People have to eat and pay bills. The theory is this: After awhile everyone on govt support will have to have a forced test and forced vaccine. The theory continues with this: Within the vaccine are nano sized technology that could include the RIFD chip that soooooooooooooooooooooooooo many people did not want - when it was saturating the news a few years(?) ago.


Keep sharing People - we have a huge jigsaw to put together. Thank You.


Much Respect - Amanda

[Aianawa]

Feel your governments plan is felt by you.