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Chris
4th May 2020, 21:35
I have been getting end-times vibes ever since the start of the year, with the Australian wildfires, plague of locusts and now the Covid-19 pandemic. The below infowars interview with Leo Zagami does a really good job of exploring some of the themes that may indicate we are truly in an end times scenario now. I must say, I agree with at least 90 percent of what Leo has to say here, he really knows his stuff and this just feels right. I'm not a religious person, but I do feel that we will all be tested and will have to decide whether we choose spirit ( God / Elohim) or being hooked into an AI mainframe, what Leo calls "Cybersatan", locked into a virtual world and subsisting on cryptocurrencies that are administered from implants.


https://banned.video/watch?id=5eac8a35ba8680009e61ced9

Dreamtimer
4th May 2020, 22:49
I can't see this. The page comes up blank for me. I've seen/heard Leo on other shows.

Wind
4th May 2020, 22:56
He's talking with Alex Jones...

Dreamtimer
4th May 2020, 22:57
I'd watch if he spoke with Tuck Buckford. ;)

Dreamtimer
4th May 2020, 23:13
It looks like the video is on Leo's youtube channel. I'm having issues with youtube and cannot embed at this time. There is a video from May first entitled Leo Zagami and Alex Jones: This is The Beginning of The End Times.

Aragorn
4th May 2020, 23:18
No offense, but Leo Zagami is :batman https://c7.uihere.com/files/465/822/372/pile-of-poo-emoji-sticker-feces-shit-emoji.jpg :crazy:. And so is Alex Jones. ;)

Dreamtimer
4th May 2020, 23:33
I believe you're right. The last time I listened to Leo I had to stop. I don't really recall what the subject was, but I just could not continue.

Aianawa
5th May 2020, 00:17
Mmmm I feel in the middle somehow as far as watching this, ok.

Aianawa
5th May 2020, 00:23
Gave it 5 mins, both are way behind the times, fear appears the importance, better timelines for most to seek than this imo.

Dreamtimer
5th May 2020, 01:37
That's a nice rebus, Aragorn.

Aragorn
5th May 2020, 01:52
That's a nice rebus, Aragorn.

Thou hast seen me use this one before, Sister. ;)

Chris
5th May 2020, 07:13
I know we make fun of people like Alex and Leo on this forum, but they're not always wrong. It is important to listen to different sources and broaden your mind to at least accept possibilities that you may not have considered. Is Leo a BS artist? I don't know, I haven't looked into him that much, but in terms of the information he is presenting, there is something about it that resonates with me, though I can't quite put my finger on it.

It may be an exaggeration, but I do think we are going through a major change in human destiny right now. There will be many trials and tribulations and I agree that AI and trying to Borg people up is a major threat that will dominate this decade. Yes, both come at it from a specifically Christian viewpoint, I myself prefer the Hindu view of cyclical time and the change of the Yugas. I really believe that the Kali Yuga is coming to an end and a new golden age (Satya Yuga) is beginning soon. However, the transition to get there is indeed going to resemble something like the end of the world, because the old world is ending and dying, with a new one being born in its stead.

I am convinced that many people, maybe even most, aren't going to make it. Most people are stuck in old ways of thinking and are unable to adapt and raise their consciousness levels. Our lived experience, our shared world, may very well split and one section of humanity may be stuck in a hellish landscape and dystopia, whereas the other section, probably the smaller portion of it, will transition into a veritable paradise. I believe the split or schism will happen soon and it will be your level of consciousness, basically your vibratory rate, which will decide which world you will continue to inhabit. Anyways, those are just my thoughts about the subject.

Aianawa
5th May 2020, 07:34
Lol put Alex on Joe Rogan and I will watch it twice, am open but.

Dreamtimer
5th May 2020, 13:21
I may give it a listen, I'm not opposed. That's part of why I posted information about the video. Since many folks listened to and followed Alex, that alone is reason to know what it is he goes on about.

And the influence of Christianity is huge, of course. But I have found Leo difficult to listen to. We'll see how it goes.

Native Americans have stories about The Great Purification and such. These are similar cyclical stories.

Chris
5th May 2020, 13:42
I may give it a listen, I'm not opposed. That's part of why I posted information about the video. Since many folks listened to and followed Alex, that alone is reason to know what it is he goes on about.

And the influence of Christianity is huge, of course. But I have found Leo difficult to listen to. We'll see how it goes.

Native Americans have stories about The Great Purification and such. These are similar cyclical stories.

Well, his English used to be quite bad, but he lives in California now and it's obviously had a positive effect, he speaks much more fluently now. Again, I don't know if he's legit, but I believe him when he says he was persecuted in Italy and had to flee, especially given the close relationship between the Church, the Mafia and the state in that country, I'm sure he really was genuinely in danger and he probably must know something or said something that really upset the powers that be. I really think he isn't just making everything up and there is some substance behind what he's saying.

Dreamtimer
5th May 2020, 13:55
It's good to have your perspective, Chris. Thanks.

Aragorn
5th May 2020, 14:44
Yes, both come at it from a specifically Christian viewpoint

Actually, Leo Zagami is a Muslim.

Wind
5th May 2020, 15:18
Huh? :confused:

Aragorn
5th May 2020, 15:31
Yes, both come at it from a specifically Christian viewpoint

Actually, Leo Zagami is a Muslim.

Huh? :confused:

Yes, I know it's confusing. But he explicitly said so, in an interview with Project Camelot, back when Bill and Kerry were still working together. He comes from a Catholic background, but he has converted to Islam.

Chris
5th May 2020, 15:46
Yes, I know it's confusing. But he explicitly said so, in an interview with Project Camelot, back when Bill and Kerry were still working together. He comes from a Catholic background, but he has converted to Islam.

I guess it makes sense, if what he says about the Vatican is true. I think Oliver Stone's son also converted to Islam for similar reasons.

Wind
5th May 2020, 16:21
I'm not sure if I'd say that makes much sense. Then again, maybe I just happen to have a problem with institutionalized religions.

Chris
5th May 2020, 16:37
I'm not sure if I'd say that makes much sense. Then again, maybe I just happen to have a problem with institutionalized religions.

I don't know that much about the Islamic perspective, but I know that many of those who follow the Orthodox or in some cases the Protestant faith, honestly believe that the Pope is literally the Antichrist and the Jesuits are basically Satan's footsoldiers on earth. Now, I think that is an exaggeration, but I can see why somebody would see the Vatican power structure as deeply sinister.

There is also a widespread belief in the Islamic world that the West is basically Satanic, which is why they call The USA and Israel the Great Satan and Little Satan respectively. If somebody truly believes that all the hallmarks of the modern world, the materialism, the alienation, the promotion of homosexuality, promiscuity, pornography, abortion, etc... are evil and the work of the devil, then Islam suddenly becomes the most attractive monotheistic faith, given that most Christian denominations are now extremely lenient in this respect.

Aragorn
5th May 2020, 17:18
There is also a widespread belief in the Islamic world that the West is basically Satanic, which is why they call The USA and Israel the Great Satan and Little Satan respectively.

Or in the Christian Apocalyptic version, Gog and Magog. ;)

Dreamtimer
5th May 2020, 17:24
I had a Catholic friend who wanted to marry a muslim and convert. I do not know if she was successful. At first it seemed weird to me but then I realized that Catholicism is a 'way of life' in much the same way that Islam is a 'way of life'. And I've also encountered Christians who converted to Orthodox Judaism for similar reasons. They wanted to follow the strictures of the Old Testament, and decided the Torah was a better version, being earlier and more 'original'.

When I learned about Islam in simple terms of its basic foundational beliefs I thought I could be a good muslim. Once I learned how it is practically applied in life I realized that I could not bear the burdens that muslim cultures lay on people. I could not treat fatwas as the word of god, and that is expected in much of the muslim world.

Wind
5th May 2020, 17:30
This is the important fact which many ultra religious people tend to miss and as such can't see the truth.


http://youtu.be/hX2QP6NnaNI

http://youtu.be/dmSircOd1w4

Dreamtimer
5th May 2020, 18:56
A navy seal named Jack Carr who was just on Rogan's podcast spoke about personal inspiration that came from Joseph Campbell's work.

Wind
5th May 2020, 19:07
A navy seal named Jack Carr who was just on Rogan's podcast spoke about personal inspiration that came from Joseph Campbell's work.

He's inspired many, there might not be Star Wars without his teachings either.

Chuckie
5th May 2020, 19:33
Holy Sheeiitt. Christianity is where it is at. For now...There will be something in the future more enlightened and revelatory. Just off the top of my bean...the lessons taught us by Christianity, should at some point become 2nd nature for humanity...at that point we will be in store for something more? I think we have hints of what that will be given to us by none other than science (scientific awareness). Sometimes Science has as bad a connotation as does Religion.

Wind
5th May 2020, 22:26
I think we have hints of what that will be given to us by none other than science (scientific awareness).

Indeed it shall, science in it's true meaning when it's set free instead of being this dogmatic materialist reductionist belief system which is called "science" in the status quo.

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather."

~ Bill Hicks


http://youtu.be/qml1-xzPpxY

Dreamtimer
6th May 2020, 13:15
I really like how a thread with end times in the title has come to contain messages of hope and positivity. :love:

Wind
6th May 2020, 15:55
I really like how a thread with end times in the title has come to contain messages of hope and positivity. :love:

"Every ending is a new beginning. Through the grace of God, we can always start again." ~ Marianne Williamson

:p

Elen
7th May 2020, 07:28
Indeed it shall, science in it's true meaning when it's set free instead of being this dogmatic materialist reductionist belief system which is called "science" in the status quo.

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather."

~ Bill Hicks


http://youtu.be/qml1-xzPpxY

This makes a lot of sense. Take ALL religions and put them into ONE pot, like a stew. Then pick up the bits you like and SPIT out the rest. :love::cool:

It'll work!

Chuckie
7th May 2020, 12:56
It's all good Elen, enjoy the mythology and appreciate the pedagogy.

Octopus Garden
29th June 2020, 22:57
I know we make fun of people like Alex and Leo on this forum, but they're not always wrong. It is important to listen to different sources and broaden your mind to at least accept possibilities that you may not have considered. Is Leo a BS artist? I don't know, I haven't looked into him that much, but in terms of the information he is presenting, there is something about it that resonates with me, though I can't quite put my finger on it.

It may be an exaggeration, but I do think we are going through a major change in human destiny right now. There will be many trials and tribulations and I agree that AI and trying to Borg people up is a major threat that will dominate this decade. Yes, both come at it from a specifically Christian viewpoint, I myself prefer the Hindu view of cyclical time and the change of the Yugas. I really believe that the Kali Yuga is coming to an end and a new golden age (Satya Yuga) is beginning soon. However, the transition to get there is indeed going to resemble something like the end of the world, because the old world is ending and dying, with a new one being born in its stead.

I am convinced that many people, maybe even most, aren't going to make it. Most people are stuck in old ways of thinking and are unable to adapt and raise their consciousness levels. Our lived experience, our shared world, may very well split and one section of humanity may be stuck in a hellish landscape and dystopia, whereas the other section, probably the smaller portion of it, will transition into a veritable paradise. I believe the split or schism will happen soon and it will be your level of consciousness, basically your vibratory rate, which will decide which world you will continue to inhabit. Anyways, those are just my thoughts about the subject.

No fan of Alex. He's a carnival barker.

But I feel the change too. Have since 2016 or 2017 when I felt I had to hunker down financiallyy. Like really hunker down and prepare to go several years without an income. My husband thought it was a bit strange, but...here we are. Who could have imagined, it would involve not just the economy, but a plague.

It looks, Chris, like you have been watching Rick Ved videos. He's a fantastic Vedic astrologer and has a very soothing voice. Another one, who is also a humble soul with very few followers who speaks to my heart is Marshall Vian Summers.

I figure your level of consciousness, regardless of vibratory style is manifested in how you treat others. How much are you willing to help. The problem with regarding the future as one where some people make it and others don't, is it is a bit reductionist...but I know what you mean.

Amanda
2nd July 2020, 01:32
This is a very interesting thread. Personally I think we are in an end time/time of change/time of metamorphasis - the name can be a variant but one thing is for sure: We all woke up a few months ago and the world had changed in an instant. The global lockdown and restrictions impacted on everyone - in one way or another.

Information was pouring in via the world wide web and then reduced to a trickle due to the focus being shifted elsewhere. Mainstream media is still saturated with the virus - I don't watch the mainstream news but returned to keep myself informed. I will not be returning to the mainstream news in the near future - only if it is absolutely necessary. For those who are interested - where I live no one is wearing masks and/or gloves and we are still zero. You can drive for a few hours and still not see anyone wearing masks and/or gloves and still not hear of any deaths.

Religion has never been the answer - it would have worked by now - wouldn't it? The New World Order has a plan to eradicate all religion and everything they have planned has come to fruition ... so far. Here is but one quote:


religion - religion will be outlawed and believers will be either eliminated or imprisoned; there will be a new religion; the worship of man and his mind; all will believe in the new religion; (Page XX - The New World Order by A Ralph Epperson.)


The book I cite above is not the only book I have that evinces what is happening and what will happen. Just above the quote is a reference to homosexual marriage. Other issues listed are already in motion. I've read multiple articles about Christianity being targetted first and recently learned that China does not permit Christian themed worship - it is already underground. When discovered entire families are imprisoned or disappear.

Vatican in the heading is interesting for me, for a specific reason. I have a Contact who is now a Friend - due to my Child Abuse Whistleblowing - they are connected to the Vatican for various reasons and have been one of the privileged who has been granted access to the library. Recently I was given information that the Dark Event will happen ... soon. The timeline is flexible but when a very serious sounding priest with direct connections - contacts a particular family to warn them to be prepared ... well what do you do? Do you ignore them like some people choose to ignore geo-engineering et cetera?

Some People are already in the Awakened State and many many many more are now rousing. What happens next is up to Humanity. Will we all stop for even a moment and breathe and realise we have to change - for the better? Will People stay glued to the television news and do exactly as they are told? Will People return to a simpler life? Will People return to eating healthy food or still keep eating from a packet laced with chemicals? Will People hand their Children to the government when told to?

I take each day as it comes and my main aim every day is to remain calm. Whatever happens next ... remains to be seen.

Much Respect - As We All Keep Learning - Amanda

Wind
2nd July 2020, 12:38
Thanks to Trump Netanyahoo is going to create an apartheid-state in Israel and perhaps destabilize The Middle East even more.

Vatican summons U.S., Israeli envoys over West Bank annexation moves (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-annexation-vatica/vatican-summons-u-s-israeli-envoys-over-west-bank-annexation-moves-idUSKBN2427B0)


The Vatican, in a highly unusual move, summoned both the U.S. and Israeli ambassadors to express the Holy See’s concern about Israel’s moves to extend its sovereignty to Jewish settlements and the Jordan Valley in the West Bank.

A Vatican statement on Wednesday said meetings with Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican’s secretary of state, and U.S. Ambassador Callista Gingrich and Israeli Ambassador Oren David, took place on Tuesday.

It said Parolin, the Vatican’s top diplomat, expressed “the concern of the Holy See regarding possible unilateral actions that may further jeopardize the search for peace between Israelis and Palestinians, as well as the delicate situation in the Middle East”.

The Vatican statement reiterated its position in support of a two state solution, saying “Israel and the State of Palestine have the right to exist and to live in peace and security, within internationally recognised borders.”

The Vatican appealed to Israelis and Palestinians to do everything possible to reopen the process of direct negotiations on the basis of U.N. resolutions.

Palestinians seek the West Bank for a future state. In a show of Palestinian unity, some 3,000 people in the Gaza Strip, including members of the mainstream Fatah party and the rival Hamas group that runs the enclave, protested against annexation.