If you have a Facebook account, then please read

[Aragorn]

As many (or some?) of you will know by now, Facebook is one of the companies that suffered a serious data breach recently, in which the personal data of more than 30 million people was stolen. So if you happen to have a Facebook account, then please log into your account and then check whether your personal data was stolen by clicking here (https://www.facebook.com/help/securitynotice?ref=sec). If your data was stolen, it will tell you just how much of your personal information is now up for sale on the Dark Web — because that's what these data breaches are all about.

Facebook itself claims that no credit card data was stolen, but that doesn't mean that your email address, home address, telephone number(s) or information relating to your private life, loved ones and family members would not have been misappropriated.

For more information, this article at Recode (https://www.recode.net/2018/10/12/17968824/facebook-hack-personal-data-stolen-how-to-check-was-my-info-hacked) will tell you all you need to know.

[Gale Frierson]

Needless to say, the NSA has probably been doing this same thing for some time. But thank you for the alert.

[Emil El Zapato]

I'm convinced at least some elements that are part of Facebook are criminal...or colleagues of Trump

[Aragorn]

Needless to say, the NSA has probably been doing this same thing for some time. But thank you for the alert.

I don't know about the NSA, but it is known that the CIA does have direct access to Facebook's servers, yes. That has already been the case since the Bush Jr. administration.





I'm convinced at least some elements that are part of Facebook are criminal...or colleagues of Trump

You're thinking of Cambridge Analytica. ;) Well, Facebook has kicked them out, but yes, you'd be surprised of what the people are like in today's computer industry, not to mention the often sociopathic behavior of the companies themselves.

Silicon Valley doesn't exactly have a good reputation on account of sexism and racism.

[Wind]

All of our private and I do mean all is already compromised anyways and has been for years so yeah... This is no surprise though.

[Dreamtimer]

And I used to worry I might be paranoid...

[Barbarella]

Oh dear...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk3I-a3CJdo

[Emil El Zapato]

Well, I have heard news reports about how sophisticated 'fake' news sites were getting. This is a pretty good example. For any of those in the 'alternate' reality timeline, this should be a wake up call...

[Aragorn]

Oh dear...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk3I-a3CJdo

Well, I have heard news reports about how sophisticated 'fake' news sites were getting. This is a pretty good example. For any of those in the 'alternate' reality timeline, this should be a wake up call...



Well, as it just so happens to be, that video is already several years old. I remember seeing it back when I was still a member at Project Avalon, and that was between January 2014 and March 2015. ;)

It is — indeed — very, very fake. :p

[Barbarella]

The clue to its veracity is its source - ALWAYS CHECK THE SOURCE!

In this case it's The Onion, a US video equivalent to News Thump, The Daily Mash, etc. Not fake news - it's parody. There's a BIG difference.

TBH I've been truly astonished at some of those inhabiting the conspirasphere who just don't recognise parody. Which is scary because they can be lead to believe anything. No critical-thinking skills whatsoever - apparently.

Babs

[Aragorn]

The clue to its veracity is its source - ALWAYS CHECK THE SOURCE!

In this case it's The Onion, a US video equivalent to News Thump, The Daily Mash, etc. Not fake news - it's parody. There's a BIG difference.

You are correct — it is indeed a parody. But then again, I was using the term "fake" quite liberally, so as to point out that the information in that video does not represent the truth, and should thus not be interpreted as the truth.


TBH I've been truly astonished at some of those inhabiting the conspirasphere who just don't recognise parody. Which is scary because they can be lead to believe anything. No critical-thinking skills whatsoever - apparently.

Babs

That is, sadly enough, also very true. The forum is covered with threads and posts from knee-jerking former members who had no critical thinking skills and who would buy into anything at all, so long as it was the polar opposite of what appears in the mainstream media. The Flat Earth meme, the Hollow-Earth meme, the Hitler-was-a-good-guy meme, the Mandela Effect meme, and so on. And, of course, there is also that abundance of older posts about satanic pedophiles.

In fact, they've currently got a thread going on over at Project Avalon on account of the alleged Captain Mark Richards — a confirmed and convicted premeditated murder and megalomaniac, who was never in the military, let alone that he would have fought against tall grey aliens in the alleged Battle of Dulce — and the fact that Kerry Cassidy keeps on defending the guy, claiming that he was set up and innocently convicted for a murder he never committed, with Mark Richards' information to Kerry having been confirmed by none other than pervy Simon Parkes. Apparently Simon Parkes is now Kerry Cassidy's go-to guy for confirming the woo-woo she picks up on the internet.

Things like that can only make you facepalm on account of the state of this so-called "alternative community" — which isn't quite as "alternative" as it likes to believe it is. Even Bill Ryan himself (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92310-Aug-Tellez-Is-he-another-SSP-whistleblower&p=1244453&viewfull=1#post1244453) is now saying that the research into UFOs and the alleged secret space program has become tainted and is no longer reliable.

While it may or may not be true that governments have infiltrators running around on forums such as this one — albeit that I'm pretty sure that we don't have any of those over here — and while it is certainly true that there are hoaxers and crazy people (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/7336-An-ongoing-Chris-Thomas-thread-for-those-who-resonate-with-his-alternative-view-of-reality-and-history?p=842001904&viewfull=1#post842001904) running around in this community, the worst part of it all is that this so-called "alternative community" so loves deluding itself with all kinds of nonsensical woo-woo, drama and knee-jerk reactions on account of anything mainstream.

And that is sad. Very sad. :fpalm:

[Emil El Zapato]

I did check but I couldn't find anything indicating the source...but I knew it was fake anywho...it's what I do... :)

funny though...i see it now... :)

[Chris]

You are correct — it is indeed a parody. But then again, I was using the term "fake" quite liberally, so as to point out that the information in that video does not represent the truth, and should thus not be interpreted as the truth.

The Onion is pure genius, I have been following their work for over a decade. Not only do they regularly manage to fool mainstream news outlets to republish their fake news stories as real (especially foreign ones), but they even published a World Atlas about a decade ago, which has all the most offensive stereotypes about every nation and country in the world you can imagine. I don't know how they got through the censors. Hungary - a land of porn stars, entry for adults only. Thailand- aging, 6-year old prostitutes giving lapdances to the King. India, covered in rubbish miles deep, so that you can't even see the Taj Mahal. Bangladesh - a sinful cockroach is punished by having to be reborn as a human in Bangladesh - that sort of thing. Most of it is hilariously illustrated too.


That is, sadly enough, also very true. The forum is covered with threads and posts from knee-jerking former members who had no critical thinking skills and who would buy into anything at all, so long as it was the polar opposite of what appears in the mainstream media. The Flat Earth meme, the Hollow-Earth meme, the Hitler-was-a-good-guy meme, the Mandela Effect meme, and so on. And, of course, there is also that abundance of older posts about satanic pedophiles.

Maybe much of it is just good old-fashioned moral hysteria, but you do have to wonder with Jimmy Savile, Edward Heath and the rest of the disgusting Westminster Paedophile Network. I once attended a rally against child abuse in London (that is where I saw David Icke speak for the first time and I must say he is a mesmerising public speaker, no wonder he was so successful in media and politics) and I am convinced that there is something really dark and fishy going on behind the scenes. I don't know exactly what it is, but it can't be good and there are probably entities involved. I did a considerable amount of research on this, but what I found was so horrifying that I decided to abandon it altogether. You really don't want to know.


In fact, they've currently got a thread going on over at Project Avalon on account of the alleged Captain Mark Richards — a confirmed and convicted premeditated murder and megalomaniac, who was never in the military, let alone that he would have fought against tall grey aliens in the alleged Battle of Dulce — and the fact that Kerry Cassidy keeps on defending the guy, claiming that he was set up and innocently convicted for a murder he never committed, with Mark Richards' information to Kerry having been confirmed by none other than pervy Simon Parkes. Apparently Simon Parkes is now Kerry Cassidy's go-to guy for confirming the woo-woo she picks up on the internet.

Things like that can only make you facepalm on account of the state of this so-called "alternative community" — which isn't quite as "alternative" as it likes to believe it is. Even Bill Ryan himself (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92310-Aug-Tellez-Is-he-another-SSP-whistleblower&p=1244453&viewfull=1#post1244453) is now saying that the research into UFOs and the alleged secret space program has become tainted and is no longer reliable.

While it may or may not be true that governments have infiltrators running around on forums such as this one — albeit that I'm pretty sure that we don't have any of those over here — and while it is certainly true that there are hoaxers and crazy people (https://jandeane81.com/showthread.php/7336-An-ongoing-Chris-Thomas-thread-for-those-who-resonate-with-his-alternative-view-of-reality-and-history?p=842001904&viewfull=1#post842001904) running around in this community, the worst part of it all is that this so-called "alternative community" so loves to delude itself with all kinds of nonsensical woo-woo, drama and knee-jerk reactions on account of anything mainstream.

And that is sad. Very sad. :fpalm:

I think all of us fall into this trap initially, but then slowly and surely, not least through the help of forums such as this one, we learn our lessons and practice a certain amount of discernment. The danger is, and I see this happening to myself, is that when you don't know who to trust or believe, you don't trust or believe anyone. I am currently in a phase where I am sceptical about absolutely everyone and everything.

[Aragorn]

The forum is covered with threads and posts from knee-jerking former members who had no critical thinking skills and who would buy into anything at all, so long as it was the polar opposite of what appears in the mainstream media. The Flat Earth meme, the Hollow-Earth meme, the Hitler-was-a-good-guy meme, the Mandela Effect meme, and so on. And, of course, there is also that abundance of older posts about satanic pedophiles.

Maybe much of it is just good old-fashioned moral hysteria, but you do have to wonder with Jimmy Savile, Edward Heath and the rest of the disgusting Westminster Paedophile Network.

Of course — stuff like that is happening. But then these members were digging up posts from obscure websites and/or videos from obscure YouTube channels — who themselves were usually of the far-right persuasion and/or certifiably insane — as actual evidence, with no discernment filter whatsoever.

And it was this same crowd that then so stubbornly bit into the Ruiner stuff and started viciously attacking anyone who didn't agree with him, or anyone of whom he himself had stated that they were liars. And even now that they know that it was all a pack of lies — he has even literally admitted that — they're still making excuses for the guy and hanging out with him.

Some people never learn.


I once attended a rally against child abuse in London (that is where I saw David Icke speak for the first time and I must say he is a mesmerising public speaker, no wonder he was so successful in media and politics) and I am convinced that there is something really dark and fishy going on behind the scenes.

There is, yes. And most notably in the most powerful sector of the financial-economical system, i.e. the banking world.


I don't know exactly what it is, but it can't be good and there are probably entities involved. I did a considerable amount of research on this, but what I found was so horrifying that I decided to abandon it altogether. You really don't want to know.

You're right, I don't want to know. :p


I think all of us fall into this trap initially, but then slowly and surely, not least through the help of forums such as this one, we learn our lessons and practice a certain amount of discernment. The danger is, and I see this happening to myself, is that when you don't know who to trust or believe, you don't trust or believe anyone. I am currently in a phase where I am sceptical about absolutely everyone and everything.

Indeed, when one is only beginning to wake up, then one does initially experience all these knee-jerks, and then one tends to bite into all of these YouTube channels and websites in order to hear "the alternative explanation", and how we've been lied to all along on account of so many different things. But "an alternative explanation" quickly becomes "an alternative truth" — a false one. And that's dangerous.

What it then comes down to is common sense. Luckily for myself, I come from a background in various areas of science, and so I know when "the alternative sources" are simply pulling things out of their nether regions. I also have a very keen eye for detail, and I'm a fairly good judge of character. But I'll admit that it does take time to develop that skill.

The One Truth has had a long and difficult process of waking up again a second time, namely from the knee-jerks and the misinformation. But some members and their egos wouldn't stand for it, and they left the forum in anger. And it isn't always about the esoteric stuff either. As I've only recently said elsewhere, we've had members leave us because we're not buying into the pro-Trump propaganda and the QAnon hoax. How stupid is that? :rolleyes:

[Barbarella]

Great posts Aragorn and Chris. I was a bit apprehensive about posting the Onion facebook video in case members thought it not relevant, or worse, objected to being fooled by it.

To me and almost everyone I know who has seen it, the format is convincing, but the content and its delivery clearly isn't. Apart from obvious comedy value, it has also mischievously drawn in the tin-foil-hat brigade!

But the point is well made; if people can't detect obvious made-up stuff how can they identify real weirdness?

Drifting off topic, it's like crop-circle researchers identifying a formation as having "all the characteristics of being genuinely alien-created" or claiming it must be caused by some as yet unidentified plasma-vortex phenomenon, and then getting very annoyed after being shown night-time video of students creating it with string and boards!

Babs

[palooka's revenge]

Originally posted by Chris

I once attended a rally against child abuse in London (that is where I saw David Icke speak for the first time and I must say he is a mesmerising public speaker, no wonder he was so successful in media and politics) and I am convinced that there is something really dark and fishy going on behind the scenes.

Reply by Aragorn

There is, yes.

Originally posted by Chris

I don't know exactly what it is, but it can't be good and there are probably entities involved. I did a considerable amount of research on this, but what I found was so horrifying that I decided to abandon it altogether. You really don't want to know.

Reply by Aragorn

You're right, I don't want to know.

Originally posted by Chris

..... slowly and surely, not least through the help of forums such as this one, we learn our lessons and practice a certain amount of discernment. The danger is, and I see this happening to myself, is that when you don't know who to trust or believe, you don't trust or believe anyone. I am currently in a phase where I am sceptical about absolutely everyone and everything.


You can put what I'm about to say into the "absolutely everyone and everything" box of course and, given the horrific realities that by their very nature defy belief, I'm certainly not one to blame U for it. But never the less, it needs to be said.

I happen to personally know survivors, and one in particular, who is now a member of this forum. I can say that now, in as much as she has recently outed herself here as an RA/MC survivor.

This is what she tells me: it does not bother her one iota that you do not want to know details.

What does matter, far beyond anything you can imagine, is that you are, as Chris put it...


"...convinced that there is something really dark and fishy going on behind the scenes."

and as Aragorn agreed...


"There is, yes."

Survivors understand not wanting to know because they didn't want to know either! That's how horrific it was/is for them. In many cases, their minds dissociated to encapsulate these memories, so they could survive.

So how could they blame you for not wanting to know? They just need to be believed that such does go on, and did happen to them, and is still happening out there to others, and, for some, is still happening to them, on the inside.

They also know how hard it is to believe. One of their major struggles, besides the trauma itself, is believing this could have happened.

That's all I'm going to say at this point except to close by saying, in my words, what she has conveyed to me in hers, on behalf of herself and survivors everywhere. They are deeply grateful because they know what you had to do and go through yourselves, to get to this point, because they went through a form of exactly the same thing.